Fight sport for grills?

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Krav maga is designed to be defense and not a sport. You are probably better off with that.

However, if the people you are defending yourself from are untrained, being proficient in any of them is probably fine.

>>41095015
as a girl you will never win a fight with an average male

your best option is to just run every single time

getting into fights is just dumb in general
like even as a fucking guy it's a bad idea to get into fights
you never know if the guy you're about to fight is carrying a weapon and no amount of martial arts can stop a bullet or knife

>>41095015
Muay thai 100%, if those 3 are your options then do it. You would be able to defend yourself 10x better with it than with the other 2

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Don't waste your time, do fighting sports as a hobby. But it takes too long to get results, and most fights are still won by bigger men even with 10 years of martial arts training.

Get yourself some Fox spray, it's so fucking powerful even the biggest, toughest guys will be weeping on the ground with their eyes fused shut.

Id go with BJJ. Getting into a punching contest with a 200lb man will probably get you fucked up

Just buy a gun.
Not even professional fighters can hold their own against average men in a real fight.

Carry a 'spare pair' of socks in one pocket and your lucky 8 ball in the other
When a situation looks high risk drop the 8 ball in the socks and swing for the side of the head
This will smash bone easily if you get a good swing in

Inb4 police
Once the deed is done gtfo

If you're natty it takes extraordinary effort, perfect diet and years of training to get the strength of an average man. And at your size it may be impossible even if you train your whole life at it.

Get a weapon.

>>41095015
Leave the country. Even if you fight a tiny guy that is your size you're still at a biological and physiological disadvantage. If you have to fight a guy at almost twice you're weight you are SUPER fucked. There's a reason why featherweight boxers don't fight heavyweights. Please be safe and don't just assume since you don't know some martial art you can still fight a full grown man.

>>41095069
I'm in Europe, no guns allowed.

>>41095060
Even that is illegal here

>>41095045
So far running has proven a good strategy indeed. I know i'll probably never win anything due to simply being small and weaker.The idea is more, if a punch happens or if someone grabs me, how to punch back or get him off me then fuck off as fast as possible.

>>41095067
Because getting into a grappling contest with one is a better idea?
Kys.

>>41095080
U serious? A woman's pockets aren't as big as men's lol. Imagine how stupid this would look. Then she's going to get robbed and you think she has enough time to squeeze the 8ball out of her stretchy pants, pull the socks out and put the ball in the socks. Her head would be stomped in before she even reaches for the ball. Don't listen to this idiot, chica.

No martial art is going to make up for the weight difference with a male aggressor. Get a knife.

>>41095151
Ofc it is you mongoloid... any moron can swing meathooks for days but no amount of strength and lifting can get you out of a fully locked in choke

>>41095148
Which country?
In germany spray is allowed.

>>41095015
well, krav maga is DOGSHIT and so is kung fu. Muy thai is real but at your weight a striking art wouldn't help you. You should go with Brazillian jiu jitsu.

BJJ is specifically designed for fighting larger opponents and grappling negates most physical advantage, BUT ONLY IF you are skilled enough.

BECAUSE OF YOUR SMALL SIZE, the ONLY submission you will be able to land is THE REAR NAKED CHOKE, so you should practice and develop a system of moves to get you to that submission and focus on it.

DO NOT listen to the "fighting experts" on here who think women cannot beat up men. Women can most definitely beat up men but they have to practice the martial art.

MOST PEOPLES EXPERIENCE WITH FIGHTING comes from untrained fighting which relies on more aggression and physical superiority, however, these "street fighters" are pathetic and get their shit pushed in by 135lb skinny dyel who actually train.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtg7ff7v-Oo


MOST OF THE BIG TOUGH GUYS ON HERE AND /pol/ would lose horribly.

COMBAT NORMIES ARE ABOUT PUTTING ON A SHOW OF BEING TOUGH, NOT ACTUALLY WINNING, WHICH IS WHY THEY INVEST IN SHIT COMBAT ARTS LIKE BOXING

>>41095176
Wrong.

As someone who has fought people with weapons before what happens 9 times out of 10 is that the person wielding the weapon will have it taken from them and used on them.

>>41095148
>Even that is illegal here
Better to be Judged by 3 than be carried by six.

>>41095274
In YOUR POSITION OP, being a light weight woman, do not let up on the choke until they are unconscious and then keep choking them for a good 20 more seconds

after that get up and run away.

don't concern yourself with what happens to your opponent, cause these faggots will just get up and want more.

>>41095148
>how to punch back

At your weight a punch would be nothing.

>>41095165

>what is situational awareness

Keep your eyes open
Anyone you don't like the look of gets within 30m or so of you you prep the weapon out of sight of your target

>>41095297

Yerh if you carry a weapon to threaten that will happen
If you carry a weapon to actually use it they shouldn't know you have said weapon until a second before it makes contact

>>41095148
For serious protection, find a group of females similar to you that you get along with and train BJJ together. Also train BJJ against big opponents like male family members.

Always travel in groups of your training girlfriends.

>>41095197
You've never tried to choke out someone stronger than you have you? I break choke holds all day on small people who can't get enough strength to lock on me.

Always be on your way to a friends house to help them 'fix their door'
You'll obviously need your heavy toolbox with the sharpened screwdriver and claw hammer

>>41095148
the best self defense is avoiding dangerous situations altogether, if you live in a bad area, can you move?
as for actual physical self defense... i would also suggest some kind of weapon. you might have to be a bit clever about it though, depending on your country's laws.

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>>41095015
What you want is Ju Jitsu or BJJ but Krav is a good start.

Fist fighting is a sport for men. You can compete against men in a fist fight. YOu can hit em hard enough for them to back off if they're pussies that scare easy. Far more like they'll take it as an invitation to hit you back.

>>41095148
>Even that is illegal here
And? Not like any police officer would search your purse. You won't call cops either when you will spray some shitskin's eyes out. BTW how many times have you run to a situation which would make you a potential rape victim? Planning to take a trip to Berlin this summer. Good luck from Slovakia.

>>41095405
This.

When you are much stronger than someone it is simple to get out of a lock.

>>41095297
have you ever tried to disarm someone with an actual sharp blade, not a dull training knife?

move in with me ill keep you safe

>>41095405
RNC is cash money if you have it locked in against anyone. If you have some training or just general awareness obviously a big guy will have an easier time keeping his chin tucked. But once you get a thumb under the chin if anything a large and developed neck is easier to choke

>>41095465
Only a few in my life but there are more and more illegal immigrants here, especially in the train stations and I sometimes come home late from work. They can get aggressive.

Also I just checked, spray is definitely forbidden here.
It's between one month to 5 years of prison and from 100 to 25.000 euros. In France it's only allowed in the home, you can't walk around with it.

>>41095274

>fat redneck vs mouthy manlet

I wonder how many actual fights fatty has been in. That was such a clumsy grapple dive.

>>41095015
Judo's a good call.

>Keeps you on your feet. (So you don't get stomped by a friend running over.)
>Effective throws are more about technique than brute strength. (Which should help since you're smaller.)
>Utilizes clothing to work throws, which is good since you're in a colder area where people are likely to wear coats.
>Dispatches people quickly and effectively.

Combine Judo with either boxing or muay thai, and you're probably good to go.

Though desu, If I were you, I'd definitely carry some illegal pepper spray around with me. If you pay the fine, sure, whatever. If you end up getting jumped/raped, you won't be glad you followed the law.

>>41095549
you need to travel in groups.

use networking sites if you have no friends and do this
>>41095402

>>41095549
carry a fucking knife with you all the time, who gives a fuck as to what's illegal or not, better to be in jail than to be raped by Muhammad and abdul

>>41095591
she doesn't have enough weight/height to do judo.

and striking arts won't help at her small size.

what she needs is BJJ AND to actually practice daily against her male family/friends so she gets good.

but since she will probably fall she should learn a little judo, but shouldn't rely on it to resolve an assault.

>>41095618
>better to be in jail than to be raped by Muhammad and abdul


peoples psychology is kind of funny when it comes to things like this.

They think it's more likely they will get in trouble for having a weapon than it is to get raped. So while they hear the wisdom in your words subconciously they way the risk/reward probability and determine self protection isn't worth it.

only after a few incidents does this risk reward ratio swing in the favor of carrying protection.

>>41095197
what if they are strong enough to lift you up and smash the fuck outa you into the ground? if it has happened in the ufc then it sure as fuck can happen in real life specially when the person you are choking is more than twice as heavy and strong than you

>>41095465
Seems like you havent been looking at the serious problem in europe about how shitty the police have gotten about even arresting shit skins. There are literally rape gangs roaming streets. Years ago i would have called bullshit but its actually happening, the fucking internet "oh yeah like X crazy thing is TOTALLY gonna happen" was nonsense and poof it actually does happen.
>women being raped and trying to report it but cops refuse to listen or file paperwork
>stabbings/rapes/theft all on the rise
>govt refuses to blame obvious muslim and other shitskins as a problem
As far as whats "legal and illegal to carry" this may be my murrican talking but id rather carry fox spray and tell the cops to their face to fuck off. The police arent protecting their people and i for one wouldnt wanna be raped or stabbed for being a non muslim woman in full garb just because some cracker european cucks dont wanna look racist.
>assault happens
>spray and take off running to safety
>anything happens legally play the poor innocent white female victim card and get internet sympathy. It helps.

>>41095015
Judo could be alright, i'll teach you how to deal with someone bigger than you and you can run the fuck away from your attacker after you project his ass into the ground which is quite easy as a experienced judoka

>>41095648
then choke faster, she doesn't have many options being as small as she is. BJJ/RNC is her best bet.

And actually practicing.

>>41095529
The few times in real fights that someone got me into a choke I couldn't break out of I just smashed them into whatever surface was behind or under them. A lot of people lose focus on their hold when their entire body is taking a smashing against a concrete wall or the ground.

But good luck!

>>41095675
that's why you practice, so you get used to all the details people don't think about in fighting.

>>41095637
yeah I get it but I'm speaking from my own experience, when I was a teenager I had to carry a knife all times with me because some nigger faggot with his friends were chasing me on daily basis throwing glass bottles and whatnot, this happened very late in the night whenever I was on my way home

>>41095015
>Which style of fighting with girls lose least.

Guns alone.

>>41095683
>so you get used to all the details


My favorite dirty move is when you go for a double leg or single leg and you got your hands around their legs and they are trying to sprawl and then you just stand up and head but upppercut them with the back of your head against their jaw.

>>41095673
which isnt really an option when you are a 110lbs untrained woman that doesnt lift, maybe if she was a roid monkey like the ufc female fighters but I doubt she's strong enough to pull it off in time

Is it Muzzies?

If so you're fucked because even the police aren't allowed to touch them until they run a bus into someone.

If not hire some a couple of dudes to kick their asses.

>>41095618
Yes but then I need to know at least a few things to do with said knife before I just go ahead and hurt myself.

also learn to use your teeth and how to grab the balls
if a man attacks you, grab his balls, clamp your hand down, twist and jerk away from the body as hard as you can
do it right and you'll sever the testicles, sending him into a potentially fatal shock

literally study your anatomy and find out hwere the largest blood vessel clusters are and hit them as hard as possible
a good bleed will weaken an opponent like you wouldn't believe - look at bullfighting

>>41095728
>muzzies
often yeah

>>41095731
what do you need to know? shit's basic as fuck, if you stab your opponent anywhere in the upper body, where the ribcage is then that nigga is dead for good., go for the abdomen if you want them to live unless you fuck his liver then maybe, maybe he'll die, he's in yurope so he'll most likely survive

>>41095775
What kind of knife should I get and is there a way you need to hold it?

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>>41095148
>>41095015
Muay Thai and/ first, BJJ second, Boxing third. Other choices are useless.
Carry pic related, sold with a seath and with some paracord it can be worn as a neckknife. Very efficient because easy to engage and always on stealth mode, but it can be lethal.
>>41095274
>>41095339
True, but beware, one could suffer lasting (brain) injuries with the RNC.
>>41095405
>>41095485
>>41095675
>>41095700
>If they got bad technique, it's up to them to get better.
those multiple of 5 in a rows dude!

>>41095915
Literally the worst knife for self defense and you recommend wearing it under clothing.
You're a fucking retard.

>>41095806

hold it in your off hand and angle it towards the side to plug the kidneys
look up the folsom method

>>41095969
>worst knife for self defense
So tell me about your experience with it knowledgeable anon...

>>41095806
>>41095731

If you plan on getting a knife, get something that's as big as you can wield effectively.

what you can wield effectively is based on your wrist and grip strength.

Knife fighting is very basic contrary to what hollywood would teach you.

The most effective move and the only one you need to know is the "prison rush". You just run up to the guy and get close, and repeatedly stab them in the torso as many times as you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_icZNx47q4

Now, you should practice stabbing a block of wood many times so you can get used to the recoil in your wrist.

A lot of people will lose their knife cause they hold it with a weak grip.

practice holding onto it while shanking a block of wood.

Knife fighting is simple and gruesome. The key to being successful is acutely being committed to using it.

Get a large knife for the psychological edge.

In todays world everyone is de-sensitized (in their minds) to violence, so just seeing you pull the knife will not intimidate them.

You must be committed to using it.

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>>41096221
I don't have the vids but there are many webms of actual knife fights and they are gruesome and ended quickly.

your attacker will not realize the danger they are in until it is too late.

stabbing is lethal

slashing is less lethal but very damaging.

>>41096221
>>41096249

Also OP, if you carry a knife, do not be surprised when your stalkers/assailants brandish their own knives when you take out yours.

If you are fighting multiple people with knives, you are dead, run fast or die.

If fighting one person, the goal is to grab their knife hand with your free hand and try to hold it so they don't stab you and then just stab them anywhere you would like.

If you can, take off your sweater or jacket and wrap it around your free hand to act as a shield against the knife.

if you cannot, be prepared to sacrifice your free hand to protect your vital organs and hope your artery doesn't get slashed.

The key to any physical self defense is aggression, which many people lack in critical situations, you can cultivate this by actually practicing which will build confidence.

>>41096300

don't pull the knife out desu
keep it in your off hand and out of sight till you get in close
the first thing your opponent should know about your knife is when it's in their body

don't show that shit off - a knife is for stabbing, keep it for stabbing not for display

>>41096217
I don't have experience using shit farm tools for self defense application.
Sorry to break it to you but your video games sold you on a piece of trash.

>>41095045
Seriously.
>Learn to use the darkweb.
>go to a site like Black Market Reloaded.
>learn to use bitcoin
>buy a pistal.

Should take you about a month. Much quicker then training.

Alternatively you can get a fake gun... even a broken lock can keep a thief away... usually.

>>41096300
>>41096249
>>41096221
>>41095806
different guy here, surprise factor can also give you the edge (ayy), your knife is yo defend your life not to show off, keep it hidden till you need to use it, if they dont know you have it they wont prepare for it, again I'm speaking from my own experience and that's exactly what I did, I had my hand in my pocket holding my knife and when my attacker went straight for me I pulled that shit out and stabbed him in the stomach (or tried) when he saw the knife and what I just did all his badassery when away and he ran away screaming like the faggot he was.

>>41096221
>>41096249
>>41096300
That amount of bullshit.
>In stress situation, a lighter girl trying to wield a big knife. >Training to stab while you have no idea of basics of fighting, >Not even accustomed to physical contact.
That's a reciept to end up a victim for her.
You're a male used to train to fight. she's not. She can't follow your path, even if it was effective for you.

>>41096550
the moment he told her to use a bigass knife just for show I knew he was retarded, something like this >>41095915
would be perfect you dont carry a knife for show you carry it to stab and slash people.

>>41096375
So you're actually talking shit about things you don't even know.
Well, case solved about your knowledge.
To redeem yourself, what weapons did you actually engage in a confrontation, no matter the level of danger percieved/encountered?
>>41096366
>don't show that shit off - a knife is for stabbing, keep it for stabbing not for display
This. Same for any weapon.

>>41096550
I said to get the biggest knife she can wield effectively. I didn't say get a rambo knife.

Those really tiny knives are gonna stop most people cause of the pain but unless you go for the jugular they are less than lethal, and they won't stop a truly depraved attacker or group of attackers. You need something large enough to actually damage them.

but your right, the knife should stay concealed.

I'm just imagining a scenario where a group of guys approaches her at night and shes scared so she pulls out the knife for confidence and they see it.

>>41096640
>group of guys approaches her at night and shes scared so she pulls out the knife for confidence and they see it.
Bunch of guys now see the threat, surround her, disarm her and gang rape her, WELL DONE ESE, the correct way to use it is to keep it hidden till one of those faggots is close enough to get his dick stabbed and then she runs the fuck away from them.

>>41095015
Go kung fu if you want to get raped.

>>41096699
yeah your right, i'm just imagining that by the time the group of guys is close enough to stab like that, they are close enough to grab her and restrain her. also she might be too scared to maintain the discipline to hide and pull the knife at the right time.

In my mind she would probably just pull the knife as soon as they started walking up out of self protective instinct, and at that point the group either stops, or if they keep approaching, she runs up and shanks one repeatedly (with a good size knife) till he falls on the floor, which I was thinking would scare the rest of the guys and then she could make her escape.

There's all kinds of things that could happen, but I think she needs at least a medium sized knife to do damage, because if she gets attacked by a group she needs to intimidate them somehow so they leave her alone, whether it's cause they are scared of a big knife or they are scared that one of their friends just got shanked and is bleeding out on the floor.

I'm thinking her fear is going to be huge and that waiting for them to get right up close might not work for her.

just don't get involved in physical conflicts

how hard is that for people?

>>41096813

Because some people live in shitty ass countries.

>>41096813
she said her neighborhood is going to shit and refugees are harassing her at night.

I think she's in europe

>>41096640
The stab is not supposed to be lethal. Not hitting the throat/face (veins, arteries, trachea) is the point.
>She's in Europe.
That's actually something important since self-defence laws are based roughly on the same principles in western Europe. I don't know about eastern Europe:

Attack you cannot avoid or flee from
To defend yourself/ third party integrity
The means used to retaliate have to be proportional to the attack.
Unity of action/time, once you can flee it you are not allowed to retaliate.

This means that even if one mother fucker tries to rape you her, she cannot hit the throat with a knife she carries. she can do it with a pen, since it is not designed to harm, but with a knife she may not avoid being convicted if he dies.
If after a year of intensive training in boxing, she get slapped and ko a the assaillant, she could get convicted for use of unnecessary force, because she knows how to fight.
>>41095806
This >>41095915 - la griffe knife - is a good knife:
easy to conceal
easy to deploy
is not easily found when patted.
is not taken easily from your hand.
can be deployed stealthly
can be engage at grappling range

you need to get married ASAP and have him come with you everywhere you go. thats how they did it back in the day

otherwise carry a steak knife with you wherever you go. they can't make those illegal no matter where you live

>>41096940
well honestly in self defense situations laws don't matter until after the indecent. If your about to be raped and your worrying about how much time you will get for defending yourself you are in the wrong frame of mind.

I would also argue that their countries laws are counter productive to the good of the people as they encourage victimhood.

If a woman got convicted of defending herself against attackers the outrage in that country would be huge and would guarantee a right wing candidate would win the election and then release her.

When your really in trouble is when you submit to obedience to an authority that has your worse interests in mind.

>>41096813
This, Just politely tell your soon to be rapist to please stop and rethink their actions, or even better organize a march with fellow women to taught the rapist that rape is wrong and illegal, they most likely dont know this and will be willing to learn more and change their behavior.

>>41095015
I am a dude with a background in boxing, and can tell you that striking arts are near-useless for female self-defense. You want a wrestling discipline like BJJ to avoid being grappled and held down, and like some other anons have said, carry a knife or a gun, and don't brandish or advertise that you have them, just use em if you gotta.

Just carry a knife, baton or some potent pepperspray. Even if you master krav maga that wont do shit against a gang of rapey niggers, not even if you were a man.

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>>41095015

Kung fu is just like Karate it's a meme.

Muay Thai is alright but it still falls under combat SPORTS with many restrictions, you're fucked if it gets to grappling.

Krav maga is where it's at. This is the real shit. No rules or restriction. This is how you learn to defend yourself.

That being said, even if you get good in Krav maga, it doesn't guarantee that you'll be able to defend yourself against a really big guy. If some 240 lbs mofo starts charging you, your ass better run because you aren't winning a fight against him.

Might want to look into some self defense weapons, unless you think you'll hesitate to use it. Heard stories about girls being attacked who hesitated on the trigger and their attacker turned their weapons against them.


Tread carefully anon-chan.

>>41095015

I don't see why people say its always impossible to defeat a stronger attacker.

First off, nuzzles are dumb as bricks and don't train. They don't do physical labor or hit the gym; theyre weak. A woman, taking her training seriously, could probably outperform sedentary, lazy, and inferior shitskins in physical prowess with a mere coupke of months of SS + GOMAD. It bet that a woman who trained on Strong Lifts for a few months has easily twice the muscle mass of a subhuman rapefugee, easy. Still, I recommend a knife on top of that., because I wouldn't want them to survive the encounter.

>>41097084
not impossible but the odds are certainly not in her favor.

>>41096987
>you need to get married ASAP and have him come with you everywhere you go.
Just like a REAL muslim country!

>>41095015
JUST GET A GUN

>>41097134
not him but i've seen the muzzle skinnies that are in europe. they're 140 lbs soaking wet and shorter than aryan women

>>41097166
and they are still stronger than the average 110lbs woman with no real training (op)

>>41097068
>Krav-maga,
>any good if you don't have good foundations in another combat sport already.
please, stop trolling.
>>41096995
Laws in western Europe are cucked as fuck, sorry for the pun, but it is what it is.
Even under intense pressure, you are supposed to be master of your emotions and not overreact... But the assaillant may get its conviction lightened because under influence and so not full aware of doing harm. Main exception, using a vehicle to do so. Fuck this legal system.
>>41097049
>gang of rapey niggers
You need at least a loaded gun to deal with them.

>>41097179
she's on fit, not tumblr my dude. she wouldnt be all that much weaker if at all without even factoring in the fact her primal aryan warrior instincts would kick in once she tasted blood

>>41097192
going to jail in Europe is still better than being raped and possibly murdered by niggers, Pull a knife and stab a nigger.

>>41095529
What people seem to forget is during a chokehold, my hands are free. Sure, a well trained 110lb girl may be able to get me in a chokehold. Good luck keeping your grip when I'm punching and elbowing any part of you I can hit, let alone just stand up and slam you down.

>>41097267
Confirmed for never having done a grappling martial art in your life

>>41095015
>krav maga, mua thai and kung fu classes
Krav maga is the memiest meme out there. Anyone suggesting it is an idiot of the same level as those fedora neckbeards that think a katana and a duster make them invincible.

The number 1 problem with krav maga is this idea that it's easy to hit somebody in a very small region of the body. It isn't. If you take even plain boxing you'll not only find out hitting someone in the head is difficult (and can be more difficult depending on skill and situation), but that if you can land a hit well you don't need to worry about edgy shit like eye gouges and throat punches. A good punch is effective enough.

Muay thai is a very solid boxing style, is regularly tested in a competitive fight setting, and will give you good ability to use and defend against kicks. You'll be able to beat up most anyone only trained in western hands only boxing with some experience. That's not to say there isn't benefit to boxing classes or that boxers aren't serious threats (they will likely punch on a whole other level to a muay thai person), but it does give a serious edge (legs are stronger than arms and all things being equal have a longer reach).

"""Kung fu""" is interesting but there are a lot of fakes/mcdojos out there, and styles are regularly bastardized or truncated to be useless. They are not tested so much, even where they are useful they take a long time to get most of the time and are skills being built up over a long time. I've seen some excellent ideas and works and concepts come from these sorts of styles but I cannot recommend them as a good fighting base.

So out of those muay thai is good. Muay thai does fit well with bjj. As an alternate, boxing and fencing supposedly work well together.

While nearly nobody talks about multiple opponent shit (because supposedly it's impossible), there are some styles that can work well against a group. I'll go into this somewhat if anyone wants.

>>41097321
>there are some styles that can work well against a group.

me

>>41097280
different guy here, I know that might not be viable in every situation but I have seen similar shit fly in mma fights, slamming someone that's choking you is a real thing and has happened before.

>>41097347
Yeah dude you watched so much UFC you're practically a black belt by now

>>41097367
you are just being a faggot now, i can happily said I'd probably get my shit pushed in by a female that knows how to fight and I'll definitively stand no chance against a male under the same condition having said that my example mentioned professional fighters that get paid for beating the fuck outa each other on pay per view, and if a professional bjj black belt can get slammed and knocked the fuck out then a completely average 110lbs girl can

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>>41097267
Yeah, sure... if its your hands, no problem dude, you'll be asleep before you can grab anything.
>>41097215
Some prisons in Europe are far worse than the ones in the us of a.
>>41097084
>size and strenght are everyting
.gif related.

>>41096940
>That's actually something important since self-defence laws are based roughly on the same principles in western Europe
No they are not. The Napoleonic derived laws have vastly different principles to common law.

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>>41095015
>>41095148
>>41095549
>>41095731
>>41095806
>>41096221
>the refugees are rapists and s-scary
>they rape "our" women
>they want europe to be islamic
>they are EVIL
Stop projecting and go back to your containment board, bigoted loser

>>41097392
Oh so you really are comparing a muzzie shitskin to andrei arlovsky. Good to know that you're brain dead

>>41097404
t. cuckredditor

>>41097338
>>41097321
tell me the styles

I never understood the European idea that a weapon for self-defense makes people feel less safe.

I guess they've never felt the calmness that comes from a 9mm in your waistband.

>>41097394
this...
Fucking Napoleon with his Civil Code....
Power to the courts, I say.

>>41097445
Where power and justice are back where they belong... IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE

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>>41097347
>>41097392
Comparing Sport to street fights is a very slippery slope. The RNC is one of the best/most efficient techniques albeit dangerous in some cases like alcohol consumption.
>>41097394
>implying you brexiters are in Europe.
Just joking, but since you're even banned from carring a knife, your point is moot.

>>41095015
Ehm... no. You won´t beat up a man. Especially not the kind that will attack you. Start injecting testosterone if you want to have any chance.

>>41097431
None but Parkour.
Not even joking.
>>41097404
At least she can learn her own limits.

>>41097405
and you are comparing a completely normal woman that has never fight in her whole fucking life to royce gracie, I'm sure she'll ace that grappling into a triangle choke with ease

>>41097393
What prisons? in what countries? what Female prisons in Europe are worse than what the ameriburgers have in the US.

>>41097493
So you're coming into a threat talking about a girl learning a martial art for self defense so why the fuck are you talking about an untrained girl you fucking idiot?
>that has never fight
literally stop fucking posting you south american fucking retard kill yourself

>>41097509
>literally stop fucking posting you south american fucking retard kill yourself
No, stop being so mad at the internet ese
>So you're coming into a threat talking about a girl learning a martial art for self defense so why the fuck are you talking about an untrained girl you fucking idiot?
Right so now she just has to tell her soon to be rapist to give her some 6 months/whole year while she trains and develops her martial skills, I'm sure they'll wait

>>41097493
Royce was choking out semi pro fighters, roided out freaks, and Ken Shamrock... cloth above Ahmed and Jamal Jr

>>41097536
yes he did

>>41097534
Wow you completely missed the entire point of this fucking thread. Congrats, you're the stupidest person I've talked to today
>Guys what martial art should I learn
>Learn a grappling one
>Hurr durr, but I sawed in the UFCs andrei arlosvksy slammed a guy so it wont work
>Bro that's stupid
>Oh it's stupid huh well why dont we let the rapists to tell them to wait blglglghj

That's how this convo went. Fucking die, kid you're dumb as fuck

just allow yourself to get raped.

what are you, some kind of racist?

>>41097563
>Fucking die, kid you're dumb as fuck
there is no need to be upset tho, you are just upset because your whole grappling meme martial art is retarded to use in the street and you'll get your shit pushed in by multiple Jamals and Abduls, she needs to defend her self right fucking now not in months when she actually becomes decent at grappling a knife is the better option

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>>41097393
>that first dodge

>>41097589
Heard enough out of you. You said something stupid, it got pointed out, now you're butt mad

Spin the wheels of your cognitive dissonance all you want, I no longer care about what you have to say

>>41097607
I'm sure mad which is why I'm telling you to kill your self.... oh....

>>41097620
>I'm sure mad which
Lol

>>41097404

>$0.02 has been deposited into your account

>>41097636
xD

>>41097338
>me
*tips fedora*

Serious tho wrestling for a number of reasons can work well. You disable one opponent, but simultaneously create distance and danger (the rest of the group may hit their friend, if you throw the person you can also increase these things).

Capoeira uses moves that also create distance over a wideish area. The way they practice also helps develop situational awareness. It's a style developed to fight multiple opponents when capture seemed imminent and (hopefully) get away.

Some systema stuff is good. Vasiliev has made some decent drills. Beyond that you have to pick stuff up piecemeal, much of it is being honest about your own skills: do you know when to esacalate or de-escalate a situation, and if not do you have the capacity to learn it? Some people cannot learn it or have little capacity to be authoritative. But simply running away or being submissive are not optimal either always. The main overarching idea is to be aware of where everyone is as much as possible, to not become surrounded/turning your back, and to limit their approach/access/numbers.

>>41097711
>>me
>*tips fedora*

I was saying, me, i'm interested

>>41097711
>Systema, capoeira
>any good.
Wrestling against multiple attacker...
Stop trollin'

>>41095015
OOOPPPPP!!!!!!!!

I've got 3 years of boxing, 2 years of Muay Thai, and 1 year of BJJ under my belt.
I live and breathe combat sports they get my rocks off. Please take my opinion!!

As a woman you're at a strong disadvantage against a male opponent, bone structure, muscle mass and size come into play, and unless you are a scientist you're not gonna win a toe to toe fight with a man who's significantly larger than you.

THAT BEING SAID,
It will not harm you to learn how to defend yourself. A 5% chance of winning can be bumped to a 40% chance and I know which odds I'd take.
It is important to understand that you do not have KNOCK OUT POWER, but you can deter an attacker if you can hit with precision and timing from pursuing you as a target.

Muay Thai teaches you to use elbows and knees, along with kicks. This is a useful martial art for MAINTAINING DISTANCE and failing that fighting close quarters. knees and legs are a HEAVY body part to hit someone with and can do more damage than a fist.

BJJ is literally a PERFECT anti rape martial art, because most of what you learn is based on keeping them between your legs and putting yourself in a DOMINANT position. This was a martial art adapted by a man with a Muscle deficiency to work for him. He accidentally made it more EFFICIENT and helps the smaller person control a bigger one on the ground.

Learn these two. If you're going to only pick 1, let it be BJJ. Avoid a fight if you can, if you cannot, I hope this helps.

>>41095015
Surround yourself with brave men willing to die defending you.

Buy a ultra-bright flashlight designed to dazzle opponents and practice bringing it to bear fast.

Take some mua thai/krav maga/judo classes and ask guys to go full force with you one time just so you realize how much weaker you are.

>>41097807
When I said a scientist I should elaborate: I mean an extremely technical fighter with lots of experience and precision.

>>41097756
There are always "but what if" situations, those are the best options out there that I know of. If you have better suggestions I am all ears.

>>41097720
I just thought the idea of someone answering "me" as if they are the perfect warrior against anu group of foes funny.

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>>41097946
You're better off with a knife in those kind of situation than with systema and capoeira. Those arts, for self-defense are a waste of time.
Wresting won't do it in a short time for a woman since heavy conditioning is needed.
>>41097807
Is pretty much on the spot.
>I've got 3 years of boxing, 2 years of Muay Thai, and 1 year of BJJ under my belt.
Great combo.
Regarding a knife, this is her best opion: >>41095915
systema, pic related.

>>41095015
>>>/k/

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>>41095015
Of you can't get a gun or even spray, get an assault doggo

Even a 5"2 gypsy would have no problem beating the shit out of you.

>>41098009
Thanks for the nod, agreed on carrying a blade, on phone so can't watch the webm but I'm hoping it's shitting all over systema

>>41098009
>weaponizedautsim.webm

>>41095274
honestly, no.
You certainly want to know some grappling, and it is great 1v1. It sucks though if you're a woman in a bad neighborhood, because while it puts your opponent out, you commit to them in return.
They're not going to tap out. They're not going to call the police for you while your hands are busy. Their friends are not going to sit around and wait.

What OP needs is
- avoid grapples
- basics of getting out of determined, but shitty holds from bigger people
- ways and determination to inflict brief, blinding pain and gtfo

where the determination part is most important.
If you're civilized and unexperienced, you will instinctively be holding back, likely until it's too late. Find a place that will let you work on that.

>>41098009
>You're better off with a knife
A knife doesn't make up for numbers at all m8. You're also in danger of it being turned on yourself. An individual against a group is on average disadvantaged but that doesn't mean there aren't things you can learn that can be useful. I would also add that a good pepper spray would be better against a group as a weapon.

Wrestling as self defense also doesn't require great conditioning. It's decently skills based. It's also recommended by individuals like Geoff Thompson who have had to use those skills irl. Capoeira is tested both historically and now in MMA and it works decently. The roda is a very different setting for sparring too. Systema has a lot of snakeoil salesmen, but you only need a partner to practice Vasiliev's drills. None of these things convince you that you're invincible or that you'll aha teleport behind someone and unsheathe your katana, they're pretty realistic and well grounded all in all.

>>41098214
Not that guy but
>in danger of it being turned on yourself
This is a meme schools tell kids so they don't carry knives and end up in jail for poor decisions.

>>41098214
Capoaira won't fucking work you retard.

ANY MARTIAL ART WITHOUT LIVE SPARRING IS PROBABLY A BAD MARTIAL ART!!!

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It depresses me that women have to learn how to fend of foreign rapists because we've become so placated that we allow our nations to be conquered without a fight, but with a warm welcome.
I guess this is the one of the many costs of that utopian dream of diversity.

I am a girl too, OP. I just keep indoors as much as possible and avoid all brown males like the plague. Planning on moving into the mountains as soon as possible. There's just no way you can reasonably fight back. They usually travel in packs, and if you are able to seriously hurt them they'll probably kill or maim you.

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Kickboxing or Judo are best for grills.

>>41098304
>I'm a girl
>avoid all brown males
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

I'll protect u bby

>>41098304
Oh yeah, and if you're going into an area with a lot of brown men, wear baggy clothes and no makeup.
Just don't advertise yourself, since most arabs think that dressing in anything other than a beekepper suit is an invitation for rape.
And never travel alone. Preferably travel with a man.

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>>41098323
>Ladyboys or Cosplayers
my sides are in orbit. it's much too late here, to be laughing this hard.

>>41098328
Nah. I haven't met a single person willing to live innawoods mostly cut off from their friends, family, and civilization.

>>41098214
>A knife doesn't make up for numbers at all m8.
But a martial art, generally, even less than a knife.
>Pepper spray
>against a group of people.
is actually on the lowest of the list.
Sprays are the weapons between knives and batons and sprays that take the longest to engage.
A determined assaillant hit with pepper spray or lacryma gas can still fight efficiently for a good 10 seconds even if he may have a few seconds to re-focus.
Sprays shouldn't be engaged indoors.
You actually have to pay attention to the wind... in a situation of stress.
Don't talk about what you don't know.
>Wrestling as self defense also doesn't require great conditioning.
Wreslting is based on conditionning.
If you're not at least 2 of the 4 following stronger/bigger/fitter/heavier than your opponent, yes it does. Especially if opponent has rapidly available back-up in a 7 meter radius.
The rest of your bullshit about things you don't understand is irrelevant.
>>41098088
You can't go err'where with a doggo.

>>41098359
post feet I might think about it

>>41098359
well 4chan is the right place to find people like that

>>41095015
buy a fukinn gun

>>41098384
They have the mindset to avoid human contact but aren't skilled or dedicated enough to make their own out in the woods.

>>41098393
>>>/out/

>>41098304
This. The growing sense of tension and insecurity plus the threat of the upcoming European race wars (or a similar meltdown) have definitely been strong motivators for me to get my shit together and become stronger.

I'm a half-breed. I'll be doubly fucked once shit gets out of control.

>>41098359
My brother has done this as much as he can whilst providing his kids with education and experience of the real world.

I'd do it too desu, I can protect u from stuff cause I'm a big boy and can grapple.

Will u be my waifu?
P.s I'm white

>>41097807
This btw

>>41095060
>But it takes too long to get results
If you're an uncoordinated sack of fat

>>41098233
I grew up in an area where people carried knives so just trust me on that. Mostly people don't want to harm others so they go all weak when it comes to trying to be aggressive with a knife. There was an incident at my old high school where this one kid's friend decided to come in to stab him over some weed money, ended up getting the knife wrestled off of him and iirc fatally stabbed himself. To top it off the guy that was meant to be stabbed got put in an armlock by the elderly chemistry teacher, so just all around a total waste/useless.

As another story, SWIM was once attacked for no real reason, nutted the guy back. The guy then threatened to pull out his knife, so while the hand went into the jeans pocket was promptly laid into by SWIM. It can escalate a situation in a bad way.

The nice thing about pepper spray is the level of violence only needs a point and click thing really, and it can be easily directed across more than one target if needed. People will also tend not to take it as a threat to life since it isn't.

>>41098248
Capoeira as mentioned has been used in live sparring successfully. To further point out, bjj practice is also not truly live sparring, it's a relatively contrived situation where people try not to force weight advantage much if at all since it doesn't help rolling practice. But it is tested in mma situations, as has capoeira. We're also talking about a multiple opponent situation. It's a shit situation to be in, it's very much a situation where it's hard to point to real evidence for efficacy. The absolute best case I can make is for wrestling, as others have written about it irl. Capoeira I can only make claims about the roda and it's history, plus it's efficacy in some one on one fights.

>>41098368
>A determined assaillant hit with pepper spray or lacryma gas can still fight efficiently for a good 10 seconds even if he may have a few seconds to re-focus.
You're playing too many computer games friendo.

>>41098531
I actully engaged pepper spray and lacryma multiple times and got pepper spray tested on me.
got hit in the forehead at point blank with the riot control one, still knocked the drill intructor down after 20 kneen to the pad in a clinch.
>Even after wiping it and 2 showers It burned for 20 hours straight afterward.
>shower actually making it worse.
>Skin, eyes, nose, mouth even kept close while clinching and hitting it burned to the point I got 2 hours sleep before the next test day.
Got hit roughly the same with lacryma burned eyes more and suffocated way more, but lemon juice helped for the eyes a lot and effects lasted only 2-4 hours.
Other worth to remember experiences involve idiot spraying against the wind or indoor, or pepper spray under the rain, so you can throw your clothes away.
Some spray actually spit a beam like thing that you have to aim the eyes with to actually incapacitate opponent rapidly.
When you wear gloves, you can use pepper foam and rub it in a cunt face. He will not like it, garanted and there are less risk when engaging.
But it is useless for OP as a self defense tool.

>>41098775
>Other worth to remember experiences involve idiot spraying against the wind or indoor, or pepper spray under the rain, so you can throw your clothes away.
The aerosols even work indoors. Law enforcement pepper ""spray"" usually shoots a thick gloop of liquid that is mostly unaffected by any of that apart from under very harsh conditions, they're used routinely.

Pls stop roleplaying.

>>41095015
What made you realize you couldn't?
Greentext story plz?

>>41095015
Just get a gun?

>>41096813
>just dont get raped, how hard can it be lmao

>>41098844
>The aerosols even work indoors
Of course you double nigger. The even work on you and your party/colleagues.

>>41098214
>A knife doesn't make up for numbers at all m8.
An AR-15 makes up for numbers, and she cannot get one of those, a knife is better and easier to learn to use then a martial art

>>41098323
I swear I thought kick boxing and Muay Thai were the same exact thing

>>41099713
Tdlr muay Thai includes takedowns and stand up grappling. Kickboxing does not.

>>41099970
>muay Thai includes takedowns and stand up grappling
Neat.

>>41096606
Any other knife is better.

I've hit people with fucking cooking pots and it was more effective than that shit knife, had more reach and weight.

>>41095015
Systema?

>>41098359
As a person who grew up "in the woods" I recommend it 10/10 if you got enough land