/fraud/ Steroids general

Why is my skin dry as FUCK on frauds? The dry skin also creates static so I get a small shock every time I touch a metal door handle.

>>41058754
Go easy on dat dere tongkat ali, my bro.

In reality, it is probably just winter, you're washing your hands too much, and you got bad genetics.

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>>41058754
Moisturize and drink more water. Do you tan or just genetically have dry skin?

masT

What was your routine when you were natty?

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mfw can't tell dreams apart from reality anymore

Anyone ever had weird estrogen sides from var? I have some legit var (as in I tested it myself and I know it's not dbol or winny) and every time I take it within a few days I get sensitive, puffy nips and bad bloating. Kinda weird since it doesn't aromatize.

>>41058967
How did you get real var? How can I go about doing this?

Keep getting winny every time :(

>>41058919
Sounds good. I can tell them apart because my life is a nightmare.

>>41058851
>masT
>routine
well memed, friend

>>41058967
How did you test it? Isn't the simplest test just to test for the PRESENCE of the desired hormone?

It may be 10% var 90% dbol.

Var should have ZERO estrogenic sides.

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What is the worst that'll happen if I mix this Test with vegetable oil in a spoon, heat it with a lighter to sterilize it, then inject it?

Gotta be pretty safe... right?

>>41059209
Ran it through a GC/MS with a NIST database license. Perks of being a chemist.

>>41058994
It's from a well regarded source on SST that left the business a bit ago.

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>>41059352
>DXM
Degenerate druggy reeeeeeeeee. Hopefully your leg falls off.

>>41059435
I use amphetamines and some other stimilants as a pre-workouts and low doses of DXM can be used to counteract tolerance to stimulants.

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Jeez. Probably .2ml of tren leaked from my VG, good thing I pinned 3ml.

>>41059428
>GC/MS with a NIST database license
We NIH now.

>>41059549
Fair enough as long as you don't abuse shit like that. What stims?

>>41058701
>read the Reddit wiki
Link it you dumb lazy roid freak

>>41059581
Mods have a habit of deleting threads when we post links since they assume we're linking to sources. It takes literally three seconds of googling to find the link you lazy fatass.

>>41059579
The Big 3... Amphetamines, Caffeine and Nicotine.

>>41059428
Dude you live in the DC area? Been meaning to get some shit analyzed.

>>41059629
mods haven't deleted a fraud thread with the reddit wiki linked ever

idk why copy pasting the one op that directly links to the wiki and says NO SOURCE TALK is that difficult and everyone insists on making their own snowflake ops

What should my arimidex dosage be for blasting on 500mg test per week and cruising on 150-200?

>>41059785
YOU make the OP next time. It's a group effort and if you're not around when a thread reaches 300 posts and make it yourself, then you need to stop acting so superior.

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SARMS fag here, looking for some advice from you /fraud/ bros

>I'm a few days into cutting with 10mg ed of RAD-140
>Cutting down from 225lbs at ~18-20%bf, goal weight around 200lbs
>2,000-2,500kcal/day, 200g+ protons
>lifting 4 days/week, periodized-autistic strength training and some bodybuilding accessory work
>cycling or some other cardio on my days off

I've got a few options for this
1.) stick with the low dose of 10mg/day and stay on the cut a little longer (maybe 8-10 weeks)
2.) bump up the RAD-140 to 20mg/day but the increased suppression would encourage me to limit things to a 6 week cycle
3.) Add in some Ostarine at a low dose and stick around 8 weeks. Ostarine makes my joints feel great and its less suppressive than the RAD-140

Either way when I come off this I'll be eating around maintenance during PCT (~3500kcal) and keep my training the same.

>inb4, "just pin you fag... REEEEE". I'm only 25 and I'll probably get on HRT in my late 30's/early 40's

>>41059854
>SARMS
stopped reading right there

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>>41059690
No mas DC normies por favor. Why not jano?

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>>41058701
help me roidfags, im gonna star my first cycle soon and at first ill have 1 vial 250 mg test and aromasin. my question is can i start my cycle with only this and month later throw in dbol for 4 weeks ( so not as kick start ). pct will be nolva 40/40/20/20 fyi

>>41060031
>1 vial
>months later
lol

>>41060031
You only have 1 vial?

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>>41060123
>tfw the first vial of the day

>>41059690
Nope, Midwest. What do you need analyzed?

>>41058754
Could be low e2

>>41059799
No AI for cruising, since you should be within normal physiological levels. For 500mg a week it'll depend on how much you aromatize but .5mg on pin days is a good place to start.

Ok. Concerned about overdoing it and causing too low estrogen, apparently that's common on arimidex, how can I tell when to adjust and lower dose?

>>41060409
Google "low estrogen symptoms". I get malaise and painful joints, but individual symptoms will vary greatly. Only really good way is bloodwork.

>>41060031
>Look at me, I did my research, I have 1 whole vi-

Done reading

>>41060409
I know my e2 is getting low when I have bad fatigue all day, skin is try (exczema acts up), joints are stiff, I'm not hungry, and I can sit on the toilet after a shit and just piss and piss and piss dribbles

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Hi guys, I'm 5'5 and i just want to look like tinytrip ASAP. How?

Beginner to lifting here. Can I just roid for two months so I basically start out at my natty limit?

>>41060693
What happen to him? Is he still alive.

>>41060709
There's no reason why you can't keep the vast majority of the gains you make within natural limits

>>41060709
Lol please understand that you will not reach your natty limit by roiding for 2 months

>>41060709
try blasting and cruising for 3 years maybe

>>41060709
If you pin 3g a week and training/diet are ideal, its not unfeasible.

>>41059974
This.
I know we joke about bathtub chemicals and all but SARMS is usually exactly that.

been on b&c almost 1 year now, tendonitis flaring up in both bicep/elbows, i train hypertrophy even though i am kind of strong, anyone have any peptide protocols or rehab routines?

>>41060709
I'm going to recommend 2g or Tren a week + 100mg dbol daily.

Since this is your first cycle you won't need a test base or ai. Anyone who tells you different is a troll.

>>41060720
Back at the north pole, making presents for christmas

Need advice:

I'm 5'11" (memes).
I cut down to 160 from 175 before my first cycle.
I'm doing 600mg/week of Test E. I'm done with week 5.
I've been training very hard and eating all day. I've already gained back the weight I cut off, I weighed in at 176 lbs today.

I'm wondering if I'm gaining weight too fast.
I don't mind being at this weight. My bodyfat% is a little too high, but I can cut that off after my cycle is done.
All my PRs are going up and I'm getting very obviously stronger. At what weight should I be concerned that I'm putting on too much fat? If I get up to 185 should I try to cut down again?

Is this syringe good for injecting with?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-1ML-DISPOSABLE-SYRINGE-STERILE-/151016377521?hash=item2329470cb1:g:djoAAOxyA4ZRQtKs

>>41060903
Forgot to mention that I planned on 10 more weeks, to complete a 15 week cycle. I don't want to become fat as fatass by the end of week 15

>>41060903
176 at 5'11 really isn't bad for someone with presumably a decent amount of muscle mass

it's hard to say without pics of what you look like though... just look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you'll feel okay gaining more weight then go from there. personally I tend to go overboard on bulking blasts and I hate myself the whole time, then I cut and I start loving myself again

some people just do mini bulks because they really don't want to get at too high of a bf. you do you man, it's your choice.

oh and remember that there's some test bloat in there too

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>>41060852
Stop telling noobs cheat codes to sterons.

>>41060925
you realize that's just a syringe with no needle, right?

typically you'll want a 3ml syringe, but if you know you're only going to inject 1ml at a time for your cycle/blast, why not

>>41060090
>>41060123
>>41060449
lol my english is bad i guess, i mean i have 10 ml 250 mg of test so enough for 10 weeks

>>41060941
I can still see my abs barely so I think i'm okay. I'd post photographs of myself but I already know I'm too pussy to handle ">roiding for this" comments.

>>41060970
Yes only 1ml at a time, 300mg test e per 1ml twice a week, ofc needles have already been ordered separately

>>41060970
>you realize that's just a syringe with no needle, right?
he's going to feed formula to bats you noob. he is a bat keeper.

>>41060925
1ml syringe is too small to feed bats with. You want at least 2ml, probably 3ml.

>>41060693
pls respond.

>>41061012
Get the 2ml luer locks on amazon

>>41060978
>when you get memed into a 10 weeks cruise for your first cycle

I'm running low on needles but couldn't be bothered to go to the pharmacy so where do you guys order needles from.

P.s I'm a Canadian

>>41061110
250mg is not a cruise, its considerably higher than natty test levels

>>41061039
cant order large quantities due to discretion. are the ones i linked ok?

>>41061195
i go to gpz medical

Do i post my email for a source?

>>41061213
US only :(

>>41061202
"considerably higher" lol

250mg gets me to 1400ng/dl

>>41061212
Should be fine. If you need small amounts on amazon look for nutwell pharmacy but fyi they put contents stickers on the packaging. If you have prime use an amazon locker.

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Hey guys im on my first cycle 500mg Test E per week for 12 weeks.
I'm coming to the last couple weeks. I'm wondering how bad would it be if i maybe did this for awhile longer, like maybe 8 weeks more? Im in the military and I'll fucking slaughter this fitness test if i keep this up, but i feel like ill do like shit if im low test betafag recovering from my cycle.
Also, I'm hooked on the feels.

>have the urge to fuck literally anything while on 750 tren
>cramp the fuck out everywhere when i have sex except when i lie there and the girl rides

How to fix

>>41061319
Go on a cruise.

>>41060861
Lel
>>41060954
Well excuse me for trying to help the new guys.

>>41061224
Janitors say no source talk.
>>41061379
Try potassium.

>>41061195
buyneedles dot ca

>>41061319
I know that feeling.
A few more weeks on just 500mg test alone won't have any harsh effects.
Coming off will be a bit harder.

Could always cruise and blast for 1-2 years and make sure your pct for that is on point.

>>41061419
Is a 2 year blast and cruise really fully recoverable from?

>>41061291
>>41061039
Just a quick one m8, are these good? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01068VKCW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2V0EUCM1U3E54

Also sorry if this sounds fucking retarded but my needles will fit this yes? or do i need a special brand or something?

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>>41061379
Try 1.7g senpai. Up your electrolytes and get some magnesium in your diet.

Alright you gearheads, i want to be one of you

Im dying to get laid and my favorite type of girl is the broken daddyissues girl who drinks and does drugs

Will roids help me get there?
(currently 6'1'', 210lbs with a low bf and good looking face)

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>>41061598
>broken daddyissues girl who drinks and does drugs
Those are probably the easiest girls to get, just act dominant and be physically touchy with her and she'll melt for you.

Just know that you shouldn't stick around long term with a chick like that, doing drugs and all.

>>41061552
You'll lose a decent amount but keep way more then you'd ever be able to build natty.
Source: my 90kg shredded manlet bro that has been roiding for quite a while.

He blasted 600mg Tren for half a year straight and recovered just fine.

If I don't inject for an e tire week will I lose all my gains. Currently on TRY. 249mg test c.

>>41061661
I'm autistic I mean 240mg test c a week for TRT. If I don't i next for a week will I lose all my gains.

>>41061626
Good news, now i just need to find girls like this. preferably short and petite ones
and ofc im not gonna stay, pump and dump. the true /fraud/ way

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>>41061665
Pin before you leave or whatever. That's a good trt dose though.

>>41061598
And no roids won't really help anything with girls unless they're into muscle worship or tren makes you some super Dom.

Beginners bulking cycle?

2 years lifting, had success with SARMS (Ligandrol and Ostarine). Cutting now and thinking about juicing for my next bulk.

My test hovers around 430, have hypothyroidism and taking medication for it (Synthroid)

>>41061711
I'm trying to get my T levels low enough to pass my blood test a s not come up looking suspicious my test only "blast" ended the 30th pf last month. So this is my second week not on TRT only. They want to draw blood next week but I'm gonna skip the whole appointment and not pin anything next week. I'll go back to remake an appointment on the 4rth week. I'm just curious. If I got 240 test C this Monday and don't pin til the Monday after next at the docs office. Will I drop my T too low? Should I pin 75mg just to be safe.

>>41061776
Same guy.

I'm thinking about doing just one cycle then stopping.

Will I lose my gains after the PCT if I eat right and train right?

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>>41058701
375 test 400 tren in 2 weeks

H Y P E
Y
P
E

>>41061807
do more reading

>>41061806
I mean this is my second week on TRT only. Jesus fuck.

Does arimidex have any sides? Anyone reacted badly to it?

>>41061822
I've been reading about steroids since before I started lifting my nigga.
Either give a legit reply or gfto.

>>41061575
Yes m8. I have used them with 21g,23g & 25g needles.

>>41061807
>one cycle then stopping
never gonna make it

>>41061918
It will make sense when you open them. Just screw the needle in.

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Is this stuff good?

>>41061910
no you haven't.

>>41061870
First time I took it for my trt, It gave me a migrane for the first 2 days. After that, nothing

>>41061910
If you'd actually been reading you'd know the answer to your question.

>>41061910
>Either give a legit reply or gfto.
Ok we will all gtfo and leave you alone with your quetsion then. Goodbye

How do you guys deal with the mental aspect of roids? When I'm on I'm an Alpha go getter. Get laid, walk around with my head high, confidence through the roof. Off: I'm a little beta bitch who would never do the things I do on cycle. Leaves me feeling confused and down. As you can probably tell I'm going through PCT again for the third time. Seriously thinking about blasting/cruising and just giving in to the side that makes me most happy.

>>41061937
>>41061981
>>41061994
(You)

>>41062044
that is 100% all in your head.

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>>41058851
It was like, that, bro split

chest + tricep
back + bicep
legs + abs

As you can see, never a trap or forearm was trained that day

here i found another rare natty pic, holy shit the dyelness is off the chart

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>>41062080
oh wait i also trained shoulders, i think i combined that with legs at that time.

Oh here i just went on my first cycle, remember guiyz test + mast only test + mast will get you big

>>41062106
yo mast, cant think of a better person to ask, can you help me out here? >>41061936

>>41062129
pharmacom is good, low to no stock atm as supplier is having issues

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>>41062129
I am not sure brother, i never used it before. Try to Google some about experiences/lab results of any you can find.

I only can tell about the brand I am using and it's damn good

>>41059093
underrated post

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Not related to frauding but asking genuinely out of interest.
Any of you fags are taking supplements?
Gon take some magnesium citrate, zinc and omega 3 since i'm a poorfag and cant be arsed to eat 500g of fish per day.

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>>41062211
You need supplements when you're roiding

Currently taking:

Fish oil(3-6-9)
Coq10/ubiquinol. I am taking ubiquinol now.
Vitamins
NAC(and other liver support) for dbol
Saw palmetto
Pumkin seed oil
Biotin

>>41062195
what brand you use?

>>41062211
That meme animal pak stack thing with like 10 pills, and some added fish oil. Magnesium before a long hike.

>>41058701
How do people deal with living with roommates? I have family staying over for the holidays and I feel like I'm in a prison. I can't do anything I normally do; everyone is aware and I can't not give a fuck about random shit like being intense and lifting in just boxers with my Beyerdynamics.

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>>41062266
Some UGL brand, but it was tested on tv once because some faggot journalist wanted to try steroids and he used the exact same brand. But before he used it he let it test by some crazy scientists

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>>41058701

hi /fraud/ - I just popped my cherry and pinned my first test in the glute last night. I'm running 500mg /wk Test E.

I have aromasin on hand - but I've read a ton of conflicting info and opinions on when you should start running AI with a first test cycle. Some say immediately - some say not until you need it, some say don't touch AI's until necessary because it'll do more harm than good.

what do you guys recommend? I was planning on starting on 6.5 mg EOD in week 2 as i know it takes quite a while for serum levels of test to actually come up.

>>41062365
I also have to fucking hide all my recreational / steron shit inside my own fucking house, because my parents just snoop around.

I think I'd be fine with it, if my family weren't all unlikeable cunts though.

>>41062365

Do it anyway? It's your house.

>>41062365
Did you not go to college?
>>fraternity house
>>4 person studio
>>6 person 1 bedroom
>>sleep on porch in high school

Privacy is a myth anyways. Moar test to kill autism

>>41062418
Privacy is what I hold to be most important thing in life, as it allows you take full responsibility for your own self.

I don't have social media and I don't enjoy people being able to hear me take a shit or have to shower early when I normally lift late in order not to wake a fucking baby.

And I lived in a studio in College while working. There were no rules to force Freshman to pay the cunts for shitty housing.

>>41062250
Is an enlarged prostate bad if I want to have butt sex? Like why wouldn't I want my prostate to be huge for more feels. Stupid str8s

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>tfw only want tren so I can fuck the brains out of a girl over and over

>>41062390
filemon pls die

Any of you faggots home brew on some breaking bad shit?

>>41062413
See how you respond to test first. I don't need aromasin on 500mg test.

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>>41062716

thanks mate, that's what I was thinking too. i've heard more stories about crashing e2 with aromasin on test only cycles than i have horror stories about gyno so i'll wait it out

>>41062743
I KNOW you're going to get bloods done on your first cycle, right anon?

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>>41062800

s-sure bby

>2little2late.jpg

>>41062819
lol

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>>41062743
>tfw know qt3.14 with her exact face
>tfw made out with her while drunk at a party
>tfw she started dating a huge faggot who likes gay shit and talks like he loves cock

Why is the world cruel.

>>41062928
Girls like numales my man where have you been? Only dumb bimbo sluts like muscles.

>>41062928
He just a place holder. Think of him as a shit test, who weeds out men to scared to approach her when she has a bf. Give her tren dick, and she will dump him like a bag of rocks.

>>41062390
MasT, how much do you run? What ratio of masteron to test do you like? I want to add it to my next blast.

>>41063013
he runs literally 80mg/wk

no that's not a typo and no I don't mean ed

>>41063022
Why bother at that point? Mine as well stick to test only.

>>41062044
>I'm going through PCT again for the third time.
hurrr durrrr why do you think retard

jerry if I run var again will I fuck up my cute girl body prospects, I want to do more drugs but titties.

>>41063217
Let's get this out of the way, are you an actual girl?

Guessing not

>>41062951
He isn't even a numale, he's a high horse riding wanna be rich fag who wears polos and Ralph Lauren shoes, and when he opens his mouth he literally sounds like he's waiting for a cock to enter his mouth.

>>41063465
Oh ok, you're just jealous of him.

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>>41063462

>actual girl

>>41063465
Girls go for guys they know won't leave them, and guys that they want their future sons to be like.

She obviously is a little mental or maybe ur just really ugly

>>41062413
I'm starting my first cycle tomorrow and I'm gonna take .5mg eod while on my dbol kick start then stop and see how my nips feel just on test.
If the pills are in small enough doses I might do .25 eod after the evil.

>>41062743
Aromasin is great stuff and has low side effects for an AI, however AIs are known for having many side effects. I only dose 6.25 mk/week of aromasin on 600 mg/week of Test E. It's possible you don't need it.

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What are the best compounds for guys who want to stay aesthetic I.E. avoid the penis skin and bloated cow look.

I'm thinking
> USE
Test
Low-medium dose deca
Anavar
Winstrol
>AVOID
tren (less sleep = very bad for looks)
superdrol
dbol
trestalone

Basically avoid wet compounds and those that cause hair loss

>>41063624
Test on a bulk, has me so bloated. If anyone has a cure for test bloat please let me know.

>>41063624
>best compounds for aesthetics
>avoid tren and superdrol
>but take deca

>avoid hairloss
>BUT TAKE WINNY

kill yourself

>>41063659
try actually using ai

Anyone take n2guard for liver support and general health on a cycle? It looks good but it's expensive

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>>41063679
>not taking Deca for aesthetics

>>41063535
She's definitely mental, and trying to find a good influence for a future but goddamn he's so blind to reality that it's mind blowing, one of those everyone needs peace and tranquility faggots.

>>41063485
If you met this man you would agree with me, it's not jealousy it's just me sitting here like of all the people she could date instead of him.

Why choose the worst fucking option of all of them.

>>41063768
its overpriced shit

>>41063819
kill yourself fag, how does it feel that she takes his dick every night while you sit on 4chan

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>>41063624
Low test
High tren
Med-high mast
Primo if you can afford it
Var
mDHT
Proviron

Are all pretty good in my opinion with no hairloss for me.

Epi gives me acne so I now dropped it otherwise I'd suggest that too.

>>41063971
I have a gf, I just know I lost out on covering her face in my protein.

Best Fleshlight?

>>41064035
you missed /r9k/ by a few boards

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>>41064035
None of them, you'll feel weird after you bust a nut in one and then spend an hour trying to clean you coagulated semen out of it. Find a tinder sloot or just get a GF if you want commitment.

>>41058754
you just went super saiyan 2 my nigga

>>41064035
buy a plastic ass. It was the first step on the road to Bo$$Lyf for JM

He has since left us all behind for money and bitches

>>41063659
try not being a fatass

>>41063985
Ive heard this about Epi before, doesnt seem worth it

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>>41064035
just spit on your hand and masturbate by rubbing ur dick against ur thigh

also, girls with the anavar bod = HNNNGGG

>>41064282
Bitch I have abs. It's all in my face BTW. moon man.

How long does it take for asin to start working?
I bumped my trt does of test up to 350mg ew along side of 50mg of Var day a few weeks ago so I started talking 6.25 mg of asin every 3.5 days a little over a week ago and for the passed few days my skin has been quite dry and extremely itchy. Could have I crashed my e2 already?

>>41064309
That's a lot more then some anavar

>>41064309
>Women that look like men
>Hot
never change /fit/

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NOT SO FAST

-----------everyone below this line MUST post a pic of their calves right now or they will lose their steroid priviledges----------

>>41063217
Why would you run var and an antiandrogen

>>41064035
I like mine, its whole hip
Put it on your daki
Its bliss

>>41064091
Someones never made sweet love to an onahole before

>>41064309
hey m8 google lady sport spankbang, enjoy

Is there a way to safely take DNP?

>>41064919
don't take too much??????? retard much

>>41064979
>>41064979
>>41064979
>>41064979
>>41064979

Will gear make me simultaneously lose fat and gain muscle while eating at maintenance?

>>41065200
fuck off fatass

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Lol one of the DYELs at my gym fell for the GOMAD meme

>>41065200
Tren and superdrol
Tren is known for that exact attribute.

>>41065343
>Sips on gallon of milk

I'll try keep this short and simple... I have chronic insomnia, nothing too crazy but I average 5-7 hours of broken sleep per night, waking up every 1-2 hours. This has definitely substantially reduced my natural gains.

My question is, will I still get good gains when on 600mg test/week? Or will the insomnia decimate my results even with steroids?

>>41065403
It would be good to use steroids

Avoid any that make it worse i.e. Tren

>>41065343
Faurg off brah u never gonna make it unless u got dat dere posteriors chain. I bet your girlfriend goes on top

>>41065431
what does posterior chain have to do with gomad are you retarded?

>>41061261
Tbf, 300/wk got me to 1920

>>41065416
It's fucked anyway so might as well go for tren

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>>41065453
You haven't done the program

>>41065580
>gain fat and learn to look like a fat fucking retard doing bodybuilding poses at 30% bf

>>41064446
My dick is thicker than your calves.

>>41062080
you were really natty here?? if youre really a man of your word thats absolutely crazy.

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I just had my test checked and it was 2.9.

I know no source talk, but are any of these public websites safe to order from???

Can you at least point me in the right direction?

>>41065655
he's 5'5 and not natty in that pic

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>>41064479
>never made sweet love to an onahole
Nah it was some generic clear one that was ribbed and made especially for MASSIVE COCKS but it was still super tight. Somehow it was too weird to even cum in so I have it sitting in mycloset because I'm too awkward to throw it in my trash.

2 beers in and about to get a final one. Am on 50mg of var ed, how fucked am I?

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>>41065936
Have another you bumbling fat fuck

>>41065953
B-but I gotta start dancing soon

>>41065661
r/steroidsourcetalk you class a noob

>>41058835
i....is that a hair back?

>>41065963

I'm looking for Canadian specific on account of border control

^^He asked he received but he wasn't grateful

No source talk, faggot

>>41065612
Haha i bet you dont!

>>41062477
at least eat as much as you can while on it, the conversion is too efficient to pass up

>>41066071
>be on tren
>eat 50k calories a day for 10 days
>become most muscular man on planet in 10 days

genius dude

Very tempted to get tren. Can you just run it on its own? Do you need AIs or anything else?

>>41066576
you want to run it with test. Some people need shit to control their prolactin some dont

read more thogh

>>41066787
Do I need an AI? And can you elaborate on prolactin?

would you guys be interested if I as a natty lifter of 7 years. Did my first cycle and documented it all on youtube?

like would you guys watch it?

>>41066844
No but natties would

How could I dose 1/2 mL/wk while pinning twice with a syringe that only has 0.1 mL increments? Would I just do 0.2 mL one time and 0.3 mL the next?

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>>41067065

>>41067075

I'm retarded, please don't make fun of me.

Haha sterons right you guys?
Roidin 4 life
Call me chad
Roidin since 21

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Back on that tren after about 15 months being too afraid to go back on.
randomly waking up, boners 24/7. back in the saddle

Thinking of starting an Anavar only cycle for a cut that's coming up real soon. Do I need to take any antiestrogens or anything like that?

>>41067263
think about killing yourself

>>41067263
Anavar doesn't aromatize so no. You may need an AI for the testosterone you're gonna take with the anavar tho.

>>41067279
Why would I need test if I'm cutting, I'm just trying to keep my natty gains when I start this keto diet.

>>41067299
>not sure if trolling or just retarded

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>>41065987
Only the hairiest backs for me.

I read about a steroid that I think it said builds more muscle fibers (rather than increasing the size of the existing ones) which led to 'blocky' looking muscles. which one would that be?

>>41061806
Pls respond. Trying to make sure my T levels aren't too high for upcoming blood test by doctor. Currently n week 2 of trt after blasting 500 test c. Considering not pinning anything at all not even trt for the 3rd week so that when I go to the doc on the 4th week it's not top high. However I don't want to dtopbmy test so low cause I'm afraid of losing all my gains. Will I go too low if I don't pin trt just for a week. Will I lose alot.

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>>41065655
Yes all those shared pics were me natty. It's nothing special, i have seen better

>>41065998
Go to Reddit and use search you fucking idiot. Kill yourself

>>41067299
Taking anavar means your body will stop producing test

Should i do 500mg test e/ week for 15 weeks for my first cycle? Or just cruise on 200-250/week for 8+ months?

>>41064479

I'm not popping tittle skittles until my inhouse pharma arrives, these body image issues aren't gonna project themselves

>>41068764
Do not cruise for your first cycle Jesus that's a shitty idea, blast away. You blast then cruise not cruise then blast

>>41063624
Low test low tren, I do 250 a week off test E and tren E, I make mad gainz, 0 sides, doesn't give you that crazy tren skin dudes sitting tons of it seem to have. I added 85 lbs to my deadlift while dropping 20lbs and gaining a shirt size. I run the same shit bulk or cut and cruise on 200 test alone in between, I don't feel there need to do anything else, I'm already pretty fucking big, and this keeps me cut pretty well

>>41065403
I get good gainz and average 3-4 hours a night, I do tren to, makes sleep a little worse but I fucking love it. Insomnia and shift work disorder are a mother fucker but needing 8 hours for gainz is a meme, I'm sure it's better but it won't kill you

>>41066576
If you're asking if you need an AI with tren, you are NOT ready for tren and will 100% fuck yourself up

>>41067263
>still legitimately thinking there's a point to an anavar only cycle

Please consider seppuku desu

>>41069088
Dubs of truth

So can one eat clen and tren hard on his first time and can i use a normal intermediate routine?

>>41069333
start with test only, you have plenty of time to experiment with other compounds

>>41069333
Get out of here with this dumb shit, do you want gyno cause this is how you get the gyno

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>>41069333

Sure thing, be sure to shitpost from the hospital bed after you ratfuck your endocrine system

>>41069333
I hear breast milk is good for gainz, maybe when you do shit wrong and start lactating you can milk yourself into your protien shakes for ultimate gainz

>>41065655
lurk moar

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>>41066844
maybe for entertainment if you are either charismatic, or on the contrary a stuttering autist I can point and laugh at.

probably not though, there is only a limited amount of fun I can force out of watching someone do something that I have done extensively myself already. same reason I hate some kinds of porn.

When is Coinbase gonna get their shit together and let me verify a debit card properly?

>try to backload a syringe
>spill tons of hormone
Damnit

>>41068800
Stay strong
Stay girly
No homo

>>41069792
I cant do porn either
But its because I dunno what the hell theyre doing

>>41069867
kek, same thing you do to your daki, just with (ideally) a bit more investment from the bottom partner :^) for real though, tfw trying to blow a load to stuff you consider foreplay in your own sex life feels like some new age selfhumbling mindfulness bullshit.

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>>41062390
YOU spend THOUSANDS of dollars on STEROIDS to compete for a $10 PLASTIC TROPHY, while I make INVESTMENTS in FOREX
>roiding for this

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How many years do you think he shaved off his life to get this body? And what do you think he's on?

>>41070109
Tfw I do both, only a little in forex, mostly do day trading tech and biotech mostly I got money, no debt at 30, and a joocy roided out body, get on my level son.

Also how much of a surplus I should have to maximise muscle gain with minimal fat on 600mg test/week

First time cycle. Maintenance cals are approximately 2000. Bouncing back from illness so I have a lot of muscle memory to take advantage of.

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>>41070195

When I was a kid I thought this guy was the sickest cunt around, I wanted to be just like him.
This is what he looks like now after emergency open heart surgery.

>>41070291
Has nothing to do with his heart m8 it was surgery on his trachea which he tore by a botched wrestling move

>>41070291
its actually a pec condition where the muscle separates. its common in wrestling

>>41070345
Probably this. Either that or he got gyno surgery from roiding.

>I got gyno surgery and the scars look exactly the same

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>>41070338

Oh yes I remember now.

That reminds me of a story about HHH taking a bad hit to the throat during a match and the doctor told him the only reason he was still alive was because of his massive neck.

>>41070367
kofi, jericho, taker have it too

>>41067777
checked

Should I continue my high cruise or drop it to TRT?

I just finished my first vial of test. I had been planning to do high TRT doses (I was low test), but I was too retarded to use the syringe correctly, so I ended up taking 250 mg/wk instead of 200. Decided to just roll with it, because I was enjoying it.

Got bloods done in week 5: test ~1200, estro ~65. Started asin on pin days, which seems to have alleviated the minimal sides.

Is there any reason for me to stop dosing it at 250? Blood markers all seem ok.

I also want to try low doses of tren and maybe mast, but I have a feeling I should wait on that...

>>41070669
Depends on what you wanna do. 1200 is at the very top of the natty range but still technically within physiological levels. A physician would say drop to 150 or 200mg per week. I say if your bloods are perfectly fine, why not stay peak natty?

>>41070711

Fair argument. Is there any research on long-term use of AI? I have to wonder if that would be a problem.

I'm on my first cycle of 300mg test/wk. Wk 4 atm, i don't have any side effects yet but strength and mass gains are also not significant. should i up the dose to 500mg/wk next shot? wanted to start slow to be safe btw
i didn't do mid-cycle bloods yet but my natural test is high 600. the stuff is pharma grade so its potent

>>41070763
4 weeks is still pretty early to notice much.
300mg/wk is also pretty low to notice much.

Took my second pin of Tren E last night. LEt's hope it kicks in soon cos I need some mad gainz yo

>>41070763
>cycle
>300mg a week
>why am i not huge after 4 weeks

you're a special kind of retard

>>41070793
First thing you'll notice is randomly waking up, sleeping weird.
just got back on tren e, took almost 2 years off tren. i noticed every time i did tren my life went wild. bout 4 pins in so far.
how much, how you dosing?
just pinning 125mg test e with 100mg tren e m/w/f for the time being.

>>41070800
im not surprised the effects are mild u dumbo, just wanted to ask if it is wise to up the dose at this point or wait more/execute the whole cycle at 300/wk

one thing i know for sure is that starting at 300/wk is way smarter than starting with tren or orals as some of you do

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>>41069867
>spill tons of hormone
Y tho? Backloading is annoying since when you put the plunger back in and turn it upside down it starts to push oil out.

>>41070793
I really felt mine around my 3rd week pinning twice a week 150mg each pin, libido went all rapey quicker but strength gains in the gym just clicked week three and I was smashing PRs. I'm about 5 weeks in now and Everytime I look in the mirror it's like fuck this shit is amazing, it's changing my body comp so fucking fast

>>41059854
Is... Is this a joke?

>>41070831
4 weeks in is still too early to notice anything, especially at 300mg a week.

I think you're grossly overestimating what you're going to get from a test cycle alone. Do 500mg a week for 20 weeks.

Starting a cycle with just 1 compound is smart yes, but you're also wasting your time CYCLING 300mg a week. Don't tell me you were planning on doing 300mg a week for 10 weeks or something

>>41070823
What other stuff do you run alongside test and tren? Any ancilliaries?

>>41070922
i take an adex every few days, that's about it.
i have a bottle of caber collecting dust in case i need it

>>41070850
I wish i could write with my cum.

>>41070884
no, i was planning on staying on for 20wks. i hope this is a good cycle length? i was reading on the internet that you should start with 500/wk at least but there were also opinions that you should start slow and that 300 is plenty for someody with no aas experience. i went with 300 because i was afraid of how my body will react. now i think that i'll up the dose because it feels like i'm just shutting down my hpta without enchancing the gains enough for it to be worth it lol..

>>41062800
When do you get bloods done? How frequently?

>>41071010
ye, 20 weeks is nice. Up it to 500mg a week and you'll get some nice gains

>>41071028
I did before cycle, 5 weeks in, and 3 weeks after, not sure if this is right but I kept all my numbers good like this

>>41071102
thanks. what about bloodwork? i'm planning on checking my e2 and prolactin levels after week 5 to see if they're in good ranges. what else do i need to pay attention to? would it be better to check my hormones at wk 5 or later lets say wk 10?

Tfw haven't taken ai in weeks
Bloodwork all good
:D
Test 250 only

>>41071290
250 isnt much higher than max natty levels so it's not likely you'll get any noticeable estrogen symptoms

calf pain at 500 test-e/w

any way to fix this?

>>41071582
Get some chicken noodle soup and get some rest. Youll feel better in the morning anon

>>41071582
This concerns me... I am about to run that dosage. Did you do anything that would likely cause the pain besides the hormones?

I heard superdrol causes bad pumps but I am just going on test and EQ

>>41071790
If it's just muscle pain in the calf there's no reason why it would have anything to do with hormones

>>41062250
why do you take the pumpkin seed, palmetto and biotin?

>>41071815
Then why did he mention calf pain at test 500/week?

Is he just stupid?

>>41071845
Paranoid

>>41070669

Also, anyone here ever run small doses of tren alongside low test doses? Is it worth it to only run 100-200 mg/wk?

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What are you /frauds/ doing for Easter? If we can get off of work early I'll probably take the work waifu to this vegan/vegetarian restaurant unless she wants to hit up a normal brunch place. Then maybe go to the art museum and walk around.

>>41071582
Is it a cramp or sore muscles?

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>>41071916
>What are you /frauds/ doing for Easter?
going to eat ham with the family and watch my nieces and nephews hunt for easter eggs

>get to see everyone happy, healthy
>ex broke things off 2 years ago, never clicked with anyone since

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>>41072012
>never clicked with anyone since
I kinda know tf, been single since middle school because I moved and became an autist but I love this girl.

>>41071290
Tfw I got a lump doing 140mg/w no ai.
Cruel world

>>41072012
Tfw broke up with ex 2 months ago, over it and moved on
>see her on tinder last night as I'm swiping

Got me shook for some reason.

>>41070855
>>went all rapey
This is only reason I want to do tren over my usual test/deca. Gf will think I'm god

>>41070744
AIs are not healthy. It's unfortunate they're looked at as after thoughts. I think on a cruise you really should try to get to a level you don't need an AI. I'm personally trying to avoid strokes, liver, and kidney failure before 40.
Working in Healthcare has made me swear off orals too though, so I'm probably more cautious than average.

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>>41071916
goin to gf's parents for bfast
dinner w my senpai
then back to my house w gf, she has a 3day weekend :D
hbu
>>41072220
why wouldn't you be? that would destroy me.
i never bail on a chick without a few ready to go as soon as i get out. i'm a mess when alone

>>41070823
I'm running the opposite lmao, 125mg Tren E with 100mg Test E.

>>41072492
yeah thats a little more ideal for most, ive learned to like a bit higher test when i'm using tren.
how you splitting it up? eod? mwf?

>>41072529
e3d.

Can't wait for it to kick in, and my gf is gonna love it almost as much as me, cos of the sex drive.

>>41072012
its my birthday tomorrow so im going to let loose and allow myself to have a few drinks and probably go to the maid cafe and have some cake. Other than that I really have no family anymore so im going to spend 2-3 hours hitting chest and tri's and go home and watch anime

>>41072541
>believing the "woman like sex as much as men" myth

>>41072274
Oh for sure my sex life with the wife has always been great but on tren it's Ridiculous, we haven't had a TV on in the house since this cycle started if we are both home we are fucking, hope all this cardio doesn't kill my gainz. she is all about it too, hell she is pinning me now

>>41072560
t. never made a woman orgasm

>>41072541
it's already getting me. i was just at the gym thinking about violently fucking any moving thing there.
my gf is coming tonight and shes prob gna die.
pray for her.
And yes, she's going to, anon. I feel i get way more bloodflow after a while on tren it feels way bigger.
the one issue though is it takes me forever to cum, ntm i take adderal which adds even more.
it gets annoying sometimes

Hey guys, I've had severly low blood pressure pretty much my whole life.

I've been on 500mg test E for 6 months now, I no longer feel like killing myself anymore so I'd rather have this kill me then being the shitty natty me.

The fun part is: my blood pressure is now normalized. Like it's finally in normal ranges. Did a test 4 weeks ago and got the results from a second test yesterday.

Should I just stay on? My body signs are finally normal and healthy, does this mean gear fixed my problems?

>>41072604
Yeah same thing, I usually last a while but on tren sometimes it takes too long to get off, like the sex is great but shit takes forever, if it's taking too long I just get more aggressive usually helps me get off a little faster, choking the shit out of her usually does it for me and she loves it

>>41072604
>the one issue though is it takes me forever to cum

wew

it already takes me ages to cum

I'm gonna be going for hours if that happens to me

>>41072628
gear fixes all of our problems
>>41072629
>choking
never got into this meme
i'll usually go hard on her to where she's got off a few times, then just lay down exhausted and tell her however you want it

>>41072633
no, same here just normal. it's tat much worse on tren. it "dulls" it, even tho it still feels real good and all. it just feels like it has a governor on it stopping it from revving real hig

>>41072659
I didn't at first, had an ex that asked me to do it, was apprehensive as fuck about it at first, eventually got into it and since have choked pretty much every girl I've been with and they all seem to love it, trick is if you are gonna try it you gotta wait till they are close, start with just a little pressure and when they are really close you can damn near black them out, I probably have a problem lmfao

>>41072686
oh anon, no no. my gf would probably love it. i've like grabed her neck and she went all wild and could tell she wanted more.
idk i just don't like the idea of it. it's confuses my dick. esp on tren.
are we fucking or am i fighting for my life here?

>>41070823
reckon mk677 would be a good combo with tren? the main effect i feel with mk is massively improved sleep so seems like it could be a great compliment, in addition to making my joints feel superb

>>41072883
not familiar with those gimmicks.
i have a buddy who likes that stuff just never got into it.
if it helps w sleep, then absolutely. might even try that myself if that's the case. i been sleeping like since lately since tren

>>41071843
le ebin hair/beard meme. which surprisingly works to an extent.

>>41071916
eating my actual bodyweights worth of a single cheat meal (easter is a big thing here and coincidentally my bday this year), then letting the gf ride my cialis and viagra forged steel rod until i pass out. good stuff.

>>41071916
why do those snapchat sexting comments make me harder than the actual pic, still the same tits and ass without them but the implication that this lead to rabid boinking down the line is super hot.

t. literally never sext, just hit em straight up to come over or w/e

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>>41072543
this gave me feels i never wanted to feel again

>>41072560
kys immediately

Question for tren users, what are your experiences with trensomnia? (relative to your dosage)

>>41073112
i've been mentioning it above.
i wake up for no reason a lot. I usually it snooze forever, on tren i wake up before the alarm. i often wake up quickly after falling asleep.
xanax helps me sleep so much, but only get hooked up every so often. melatonin n shit only does so much

>>41072543
happy bday anon. we love you here.
mine is next week

>>41072543
i get that you're probably really sad but sound like the life i'd want to live

>>41073152
Does it prevent you from falling asleep initially? I already have existing issues with waking up a lot in the night so that doesn't bother me

Could I get away with a split like this?
>Chest/Abs
>Back
>Quads/Hams
>Shoulders/Abs
>Biceps/Calves
>Triceps
>Rest
My tris are lacking hard, and I'm incredibly shit at squeezing the fuck out of them, so I figure giving them a day of their own would do wonders.

>>41073112
I already had insomnia like crazy, woke up multiple times a night, it's a little worse but not much, I don't take much tren though

>>41073363
eh not as much, it's more i just wake up randomly.
i take adderal n stims so my sleep is already pretty fucky.
>>41073403
i suppose, why not do bi n tri together and add a rest or cardio day. besides that, that's my split.

>>41071916
>>41071582
>>41071582
I should clarify the pain is only there when walking or flexing, and it only happens to the calf of the leg im doing quad injections in. Pain useally occurs 1 day after.

>>41073611
probably just super pumped.
possibly shin splints

>>41073544
I'm doing bi&tri currently. Aways start out with tris. Even tried increasing tri volume relative to bis, and it seems to be doing minimal difference.

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>>41073839
i liteally just did the same kek
my bi's grow like crazy compared to my tri, i feel ya.
one thing i do to hit lagging parts was doing a set every workout.
so for like half a year, at the end of every workout, i did some form of shoulder work, just enough to get a real good pump in them

>>41073861
Are we talking a single set or exercise?
What rep ranges do you aim for?

>>41073917
with shoulders i'd do like front and side raises. probably like 3-4 sets of 15. nothing crazy but enough to get a good burn. maybe one day do like a shoulder press, 3 sets of 10

>>41073861
>lagging tris
i always end up fighting elbow pain, but i've found tricep kickbacks are easy on the joints even if they're a little homo

i have a pair of 15lb dumbells so i just do them at home, 2-3 sets to failure nice and slow

>>41074003
>>41074003
>>41074003
>>41074003

>>41073969
I'll try that out for for a few weeks weeks and see what happens, thanks man

Something that confuses me - if I start using frauds, do I have to use them for the rest of my life in order to have natural levels of test? Is it possible to do one cycle, and once that cycle is finished, continue lifting and still make progress? I'd like to do a cycle to bump up my progress, but I don't want to be using long term

>>41074064
You do one cycle, then start PCT to normalize your test production
You can still progress past that without frauds, yes
Can't guarantee you'll want to stop at one cycle though

>>41074113
I'm a newbie - what's pct

>>41068854
Why?