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> routine
> how many days you lift
> favorite 2 compounds
> why you fraud

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>y-yeah cut is going great haha

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What would be the best "cruise" for looking amazing with no mental sides? I'm thinking 250test 300deca and maybe 250mast plus some proviron.

This stupidly high tren seems to taking a toll.

>>41039519
>Cutting ever

Plebe, join the bearmode crew. We 240lbs 6'+ and hairy as fuck.

>>41039739
You can't call 800mg of AAS a "cruise." If you want to "cruise," cruise on something like 150 test, 100 deca, and 15 mg var. Even that would be streching it. But if you do lots of cardio, you'd look as good as the best looking soccer players (like Cristiano Ronaldo or whatever).

Someone asked last thread about running low doses of ten with TRT test. People were talking about dosages of 100-200 mg/wk.

I'm on (UGL) TRT now, so I'm curious. Is this a thing you can do for extended periods of time, or is it more of a mini-blast? Can you also do it with other stuff like deca/NPP or mast?

What compounds should I run for Ryan Gosling mode.

Just Testosterone? Maybe some deca and EQ?

>>41040043
Some people run quite high doses of Tren for 7 months

You could certainly run 200mg a week but I might increase Test a little more

Can doctors prescribe test if you're borderline anorexic and can barely put on muscle + being able to only curl 10 lbs?
>inb4 you can put on muscle you're just fucking stupid

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>>41040107

Neat. I've never done anything but test (just on TRT and trying to be less of a fatty). Maybe I'll try out the devil's juice in small doses once I have my TRT dose dialed in properly.

>>41040160
>>Neat. I've never done anything but test
>fast forward one year
>on a gram of tren and addicted to trannies and loves sucking dick and fucking horses in the ass

>>41040206

>implying I don't already like dickgirls

Actually less, after the TRT started. Weird. I do feel like I'm going to descend into roid degeneracy, though.

>>41040076
Why are you running gear to be skinny fat?

>>41039380

>pic
what kind of bullshit is this

>>41040298
because hes one of those obeasts who think gear will make him lean while he is still eating like a fat fucking food addicted disgusting animal

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>>41040323
That pic gives me a headache between the guys that look like they're about to shoot a gay porn, the elitefts shirt on the dude with satellite ears and probably weighs 150lbs and the fucking tent that they're in which I assume is some Army bullshit.

tfw 3 police officers (1 of them which trains at the same place as me) showed up 3 days in a row looking for 1 specific individual last week.

jesus christ, i skipped a workout the first day they were there and got tipped off from some of my workout buddies, and they show up 2 more times just for me lmao

fucking natty cuck norway shit country let me be a beast god damnit

>>41040532
Why are they looking for you?

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>>41040532
I thought that shit was only in Sweden. God damnit, if I travel to Bergen I wonder if they'll try and grab me even if I'm from the US.

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>>41040298
Gosling is not skinny fat

I expect to be much leaner than him while keeping my broad shoulders

>>41040384
Projecting

>>41040600
cuz it's very obvious that i take le steroids

>>41040610
i would use a hoodie if i were you

>>41040612
Lmao okay

>>41040625
Do they only think this based of your appearance?
Post a pic

>>41040532
>roleplayer

Would 600mg test per week give me good results even with insomnia? Nothing crazy bad but I typically only get 6 hours or so of broken sleep per night and it has definitely harmed my natty gains massively

Can someone run me through the basics of CBT please? Just a quick explanation of what to take and why, thanks!

>>41041086
kill yourself

>>41041086
wow this is a stupid post

Can you just take tren on its own without any AI?

Can anyone share experiences of insomnia on tren?

>>41041086
whew laddie

>>41041127
>>41041139
>>41041241
Why such a bad reaction? I'm genuinely wanting to learn so even if you could explain why what I asked is so stupid it would be appreciated :-)

>see reddit monthly progress thread
>first post is some guy explaining how he let himself get to 32% bf "because holidays" and now he cut down to a whopping "estimated" 20%
>he now says he is using his powerlifting meet as motivation to not let himself get higher than his current ~20% bf

Ok this place is fucking disgusting

Everyone is either a fucking skeleton or an obese piece of shit. WTF

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>>41041164
You should be taking test which is what warrants the AI not the tren. Tren can require caber though.

>>41041819
Tis a beautiful thing.

>>41041843
>>>dropped out of uni so I cant just chat bitches
why could you before and not now

Will 1g of gear per week give me dank gains?

>>41042317
yea run 1g of masteron

What raises/lowers HDL and LDL?

I'm getting conflicting results from googling this, so I'm hoping you guys have actual experience.

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>>41042404
Basically every anabolic raises ldl and lowers hdl it's more a concern of how bad but that's why people switch to cruise and let their bodies somewhat recover.

ygm Kahuna

>>41042809

Sorry, I meant like... foods. Should have been more specific.

>>41041862
Fucking roasties

See girls with children gets me so mad
Especially if they have lots of them

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>>41043128
Time to drop the trannies and get on that white baby train m8

>>41043157
>white
I dont want my baby mama spending my child support on pumpkin spice lattes

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>>41043128
She's cute though, the mom not the kid.

>get phone call at gym from paramedics looking for my mother
>grandfather had a stroke

I can't lift that.

Best way of buying bitcoin? Coinbase has a $50/week limit, mycelium doesn't work for me for some reason, used to use circle until they stopped

>>41044243
coinbase only has a $50 limit/week if you don't verify your account

>>41044293
I see. Is that for identity verification in the settings?

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>>41039409
>needlessly complicated mesocycles for strength and hypertrophy in rotation (read: weaponized autism)
>4 a week strength, 6 a week gainz (see above)
>test goes without saying, eq & deca fav, honorable mention halo once in a while (pic related)
>to be stronk for motherland but also look like it, kek

>>41043995
you're next

>>41039409
>PPL
>5
>tren mast
>manlet and really small dick, normal sized privileged men and roasties need not discriminate against my life choices, they don't fucking know

In Vietnam for 17 day vacation, bit I'm cruising, can't get juice here, dosed at 250mg test e day I left, how fucked am I?

>>41045986
Might as well just PCT off at that point.

>>41043465
>generic qt crazy-jewed woman

no thx

Why does Anadrol always put me to sleep at 25mg?

>>41046425
What are you using for liver support?

>>41046425

Blood sugar maybe. Liver might be properly rekt but I doubt it.

>>41043128

There are 3 women at my office pregnant and they all won't shut the fuck about their fucking womb monsters. I'm so close to putting oil on the stairs.

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>>41046363
Plus she's kinda slutty and self-conscious.

>>41039409

>Push/Pull/Push/Pull/Push/Pull/Rest
>6
>Masteron, Epistane (honourable mention to legit var)
>Insecurity

How bad is microdosing stimulants 2-3 times a week? I think I have ADD but never been to a doc to diagnose it.
Currently using 4f-mph or 3-fpm when I need shit done but I'm not sure how bad my dopamine receptors are fried after using

>>41046477
>I'm so close to putting oil on the stairs.
kek

>>41046477
O I am laffin

>>41046554

Why not use something like modafinil rather than play with fire like that? Moda isn't ideal either, but if you have an actual disorder it's going to be a lot nicer for you.

Where can I buy steroids online that ships to UK?

>>41046579
Never used modafinil before so I'm going to read up on it.

Got rc stimulants because they are dirt cheap and legal.
I only use them once a month max, though I have read stories of people using them almost daily for weeks with no noticable side effects.

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>>41046605
I use armoda and it's pretty tame desu, not really a stim more just keeps you awake.

I'd like a decent stimulant to use for when I have to work at 0300 but I'd rather not venture into sketchy RC ones, any suggestion?

Tempted to just go on a blast and cruise for life, what are the pros/cons?

>>41046672
Nothing beats pharma adderall. Ritalin makes me tweaky

4f-mph is a ritalin analogue and makes me incredibly motivated. Comedown is fatigueness and some anxiety.

Look into it, there are hundreds even thousands of personal experiences on the web

>>41039380
What are the pros/cons for blasting as a noob? 3 months of lifting here, 285 dead, 225 squat, 165 bench, 105 OHP

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>>41046725
>4f-mph
I forgot to mention I get drug tested for work too which could be a problem with that.

>>41046841
Buy a shotgun and blast your head off

>hands still shake when pinning

nigga please, goddamnit

>>41046951
It's out of your blood by 3 days I believe. Do you have any idea what they test for?

Many people (esp. in the US) are prescribed stimulants by their docs, though I don't know if your employer/boss is allowed to look through your medical history. If yes, then you should absolutely not take it

>>41046992
Uncalled for m8

>>41046503
Can I see your legs pls bb

>>41047371
where the fuck do you think you are?

>>41046596
Google that shit, a lot of good labs are from the UK.

>>41047431
I've heard good things about this Korean rock lifting forum, apparently it was all lies.

>>41047426

They're shitty desu

If that was a dig at the routine, quads and calves are on push day and hamstrings and glutes are on pull day.

>>41047426
I'm sure he squats on push day, and deadlifts on pull day.

How long should I cycle on/off?

Rate my cutting/summer cycle:

250mg Test-E E3D
300mg Equipoise E3D

Also, as far as acne goes:

Benzoyl Peroxide
Retin-A gel
Jojoba Oil to moisturize

Or should I pick up some accutane? Since my cycle is not very extreme I'm not sure.

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Guys I have to share this with somebody.

I have made it. I am currently fucking three chicks who are all super into me and love my body. I'm not super buff by any means but my arms and chest and legs look good for my demographic and I lift hard. Just eat a little too much.

One of them is 8/10 but an absolutely shitty lay, one is 6/10 and a good lay (and getting better because we just had our second sesh) and one is 4/10 but her pussy is tight AF and she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. Whenever I leave her house I feel like I'm floating.

I'm also super confident at work and starting a new job next Monday.

It's all because of steroids. Yeah they help make my body look good but the real benefit is mental. It's not about being alpha or a chad, it's just given me the confidence to let my natural charm and intelligence come through and not put up with too much shit, and not be afraid to reject some girls.

I was riding home from 6/10's house last night, the windows were down, she had just worked super hard to make me come on her face, and I realized that RIGHT NOW is the moment I'm going to look back on and say "those were the times." This is amazing and I owe it all to /fraud/. Thanks!

>>41047455
First cycle so I'm clueless and concerned about which websites/products are reputable

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>>41047655
happy4u

>>41047655
I want to belive

>>41047672
Type in steroids online reviews then just see what eroid recommends
Or just ask some guy at gym

>>41047655
I wish this was true story.

>>41047695
Thanks
>>41047781
>>41047832
Why would I make something like this up? Here's some more details where now all of a sudden y'all will make fun of me for being on this site:

I'm 42 and the women in question range from 37-37.

What do you actually do when off cycle? Bulk, cut, eat at maintenance? Seems like a couple months of wasted time

>>41047599
Do you get bad acne often?
If not use 50mg doxycycline a day and wash yourself after sweating, meaning 1 shower after waking up 1 after gym and one right before bed, benzel only one everyday or every other day as it can dry your skin out too much which will make you produce more oils to fix dry skin which causes acne.
Accutane only necessary if constant acne because it should be dosed by doc over 7-12 months as a long term near permanent cure, but most important thing is keeping estro in check.
T. Man with most horrific acne scars across chest you'll ever meet, literally $4000 to flatten and remover redness and will never completely fade, I was predisposed to acne before first cycle and used no pct or control because that one big guy at the gym sold them to me and told me its all I'd need 7 years ago.

Also a great cycle/blast that causes me minimal acne now is 350/350-400/400 tren e test e and 800mg eq a week for 16 weeks up, that much test and tren are at perfect gains without waste and sides and eq at 800 is perfect, I've ran test at 1.2gs before and the diminishing returns where extremely noticeable, most things are better kept at 500 or lower (bar eq and primo) and substituting the extra for another compound.
Also remember eq won't peak until like 8 weeks in, you can front load but from personal experience eq will only give bad sides from heavy front loading, I'd say same dose minimal of 14 weeks with 16-20 optimum for eq, if you don't wanna run tren for that long run npp first 6-8 weeks then swap for tren for last 8-14.
Xoxox

>>41047220
Which spots?
I only get shakes on left delt now because bi tried to pin after a few drinks and fucked it 3 times then gave up, now every time I try I get nervous as.
Lining it up then taking a deep breath and closing my eyes on the way on helps, also slow shot.

>>41047929
Priority after coming off is saving as much muscle as possible. Personally I would cleanbulk until test levels are stable again.

>>41047948
xoxoxo thanks

I will probably purchase some UGL accutane just in case.

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>fraud awareness week at the gym

>>41048121
It's nice to finally be appreciated

Got my cycle and PCT planned out. Ready to order but it's my first time and nerves are kicking in. Can anyone help tip me over the edge?

>>41046841
You ever see those big guys who look like shit because they have fucked up proportions?
Massive delts, smaller chests, little calves etc.
Its because they didn't get a decent from before juicing, and their bodies exploded from a funny shape+the high andro receptive parts of their body grew faster for on the very start.
You're body man do what you want bit people say 18 months or 2 years minimum before juice for a reason, do you know how hard it is to shrink shoulders whilst growing chest and back?
People don't realise how hard proportions are to fix, a lagging chest is hard enough, you'll be trying to keep front delts at bay whilst growing chest, slowing traps when growing read delts and back, getting bigger his without letting tris grow to much faster than them, growing hams faster than quads and smashing calces all day because they don't respond to test like the rest of your body does.
Also first 2 years natty are ez gains

>>41048216
What's it look like?

>>41048121
>testes inspection day at gym

>>41048247
Just basic test 500mg/week, nolva on hand in case of symptoms

I did tell a small lie I'm not 100% on the PCT yet, waiting to hear back from a close friend with his reccommendations

Anyone ever kick started with 25-50 Winny and 50 anadrol together?
Results?

>>41039409
Brosplit
A- chest bis and shoulders
B- back, delts and tris
C- legs and abs plus any accessories
Lift 6 days run 4 swim 3...training for TACP
Roided for girls lol

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Please answer this poll to figure out how much we spend per cycle. I am voting too, personally it has costed me a bit over $600 for my cycle.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12731646

>>41048616
>not BC
>not specifying length.
But 1500 for 24 weeks seems right

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How many of you feggetts run hCG for all b&c?

>>41048616
HOMEBREW

>>41047860
Good for you grandpa! I wish I could convince my dad to get on trt but he rather just take viagra baka

>>41048139
pls respond

>>41048672
Hcg is so hard to get a reliable answer, some say 250 twice a week permanent some day 500 twice weekly 5 weeks on 5 off some say last Monty before cruise its hard desu

>>41039409
>PPL with strength focus
>5 days / week
> test tren
>came to the conclusion that i'd never be big natty being 6'4

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So the theory behind the SS diet advice and such is that if you abuse your newb gainz to develop mass quickly, then the cut that comes after will be easier and go faster as muscle uses more energy than fat does. The problem is that SS and GOMAD causes far too much fat to develop and it offsets the potential cut gains.

But what if a person uses their noob gains along with roids and follows that advice? Wouldn't that negate the fat gain issue and actually make the following cut easier?

>>41048715
Thanks Kohai.
I take Cialis and Viagra sometimes, too. Especially tonight to fuck the 4/10 since I fucked the 6/10 last night.

Especially need it when I use condoms. Fuck condoms, kohai.

Also gotta be super careful about which rons I use since some fuck with my libido. (I'm looking at you, NPP!)

>>41048746
Are you big now?
How long a day in gym?
I can't get a ppl that feels like I've done a real workout everywhere without being like 3 hours long

>>41048760
what compounds are you on ? dosage ? height/weight ? lifting experience ?

>>41048760
Npp makes my libido sky rocket. Masturbated 9 times back to back over the summer face timing my ex.

>>41048788
Holy fuck that's insane!

What do you all take for pct?

>>41048788
Is there Any juice that helps when fucking men on camera?
Like is it easier on some compounds than others?

>>41048763
Cutting right now so a bit smaller but at my biggest I was about 240lbs and pretty big as I seemed to recieve plenty of compliments and remarks from people, when walking around in a shirt in the summer people would actually move out of the way etc, lel. Spend about 1h-1h30 in the gym. Thing is I do the main compounds first for strength, deadlifts, squats, bench, deadlift until exhaustion, do some assistance lifts a

>>41048805
Less test

>>41048672
there is no reason to homebrew if you only run 2 compounds at a time

>>41048788
Ive done that natty just listening to music not even looking at porn

>>41048819
Pics?
I'm a similar weight but 6' king of manlet status

>>41048819
>>41048819
>Cutting right now so a bit smaller but at my biggest I was about 240lbs and pretty big as I seemed to recieve plenty of compliments and remarks from people, when walking around in a shirt in the summer people would actually move out of the way etc, lel. Spend about 1h-1h30 in the gym. Thing is I do the main compounds first for strength, deadlifts, squats, bench, deadlift until exhaustion, do some assistance lifts and then just do some bodybuilding work to get a good pump, seems to work for me.

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>>41048825
>there is no reason to pay less than a dollar per vial of test unless you use more than two compounds
what

>>41048841
Have you ever tried brosplitting?

>>41048672
TFW can't homebrew because Australia

>>41047860
>I'm 42

That's kind of sad. You should have a wife and kids by that age, not be out chasing tail like someone 15 years your junior.

>>41048932
Any info you can provide on homebrewing? I always thought it was kind of dangerous, but I just don't have the money to buy it from a vendor.

>>41048757
Steroids are not for newbs. If you don't know got like how to diet and exercise you're wasting your time roiding.

>>41049035
I understand your point, but that doesn't really answer my question at all.

Why does everyone say ppl is better but no pros use ppl?
Why do all big cunts use bro splits?

>>41049035
To clarify: I'm not asking if someone SHOULD do this, I'm asking if someone DOES do this, would it have the desired effects that SS/GOMAD shoots for but fails at achieving.

>>41048290
>tfw bollocks so huge they look average while on gear

>>41049065
Bro noon gains are just body adjusting, roid gains are completely different, also without the proper proportions you get from the first 2 years of training you look so shit when you hit juice, bad proportions only get worse

What are the go to dnp sources currently?

My traps grow so fucking fast. I now look like a pitbull

>>41049133
Androgen receptors my man

>>41049120
Also interested in this. I heard dhacks was dead or some shit

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Reeeeeeeeee fucking Epistane is making me break out in my face while var never did. Time to drop it and switch back to var.

>>41049188
Try sdrol lmao
Or adrol stana combo

>>41049116
That's fine, and once again that isn't what I'm asking at all.

>To clarify: I'm not asking if someone SHOULD do this, I'm asking if someone DOES do this, would it have the desired effects that SS/GOMAD shoots for but fails at achieving.

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>>41049236
var/mDHT/proviron is pretty good

>>41048805
Vitamin C

Hey guys, omega fat ass here. I'm down 200lbs already from diet and cardio, however I'm considering using DNP to finish off the rest of the weight quickly so I can get skin reduction surgery.

I only have a couple of concerns, assuming of course that I do DNP. I haven't been lifting, but I want to. If I start taking DNP tomorrow, should I abstain from the gym until after I'm done using DNP? If I start taking DNP tomorrow and don't go to the gym, will it fuck my muscles up more than they already have been by not lifting while cutting hard?

I suppose my major concern is: How hard does DNP target muscle mass if you aren't lifting?

>>41049486
DNP doesn't target shit you mongoloid. It just increases your TDEE.

>>41049496
I'm actually not sure about that. I have a feeling that, as an ETC uncoupler, the mitochondria signal downstream at the high adp/atp ratio despite high levels of electron carrier levels to induce beta oxidation. Essentially: the body realizes it can't make ATP from food ingested so it breaks down fat to do so.

t. biochemist

>>41049734
This is correct.

>>41048740
Just sent you a friend request bb

>>41049734
>>41049784
Well then I stand corrected.

t. The most humble person on the goddamn planet

>>41049734
>>41049784
>>41050058
Back to the question at hand. What are some good sources these days?

>>41048812
probably enough tren for it to become a blur of orifices

cheq for dat dere military themed non-con

>>41048821
the only correct advice tbqfh

What's the point of cycling off if you quickly lose all your gains beyond natty limit anyway

>>41039409

>PPL
>6
>Tren A / Test E
> girls originally, now that I have a GF i ask myself why

>>41049999
Nice jerrbears

>>41050203
Why are you so fucking fascinated with the natty limit. You will never hit natty limit not even with steroids, because you lack dedication to get to that level.

You don't lose gains if you are off cycle, you think so because you don't have a identity of your own you are even too lazy to think for yourself. You fucking naïeve beyond believe and will believe everything from these faggots over here

>>41050203
>Implying you'll keep natty limit muscles
>Implying you trained as a natural long enough to even push your body to have the amount of test or muscle potential to maintain natural potential
>Implying you'll even know what your natural potential was because you threw it out of the window once you became enhanced

>>41050274
>You don't lose gains if you are off cycle
You know what?
Go for it.
Show us your dedication bruh.
Go off cycle for 4 weeks and show us what real hardwork look like.

>>41050274
I thought you were BnC mustard race?

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>>41050153
>cheq for dat dere military themed non-con
this mental image both sickens and arouses me

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>>41050319
I already proved so you utter faggot. The fact you don't believe is because muhh i can't do it myself thus nobody can do it and utter jellyness stop you from believinng

You can't even achieve what i achieved after 4 year of natty training WITH STEROIDS, kek.

But hey don't forget to be yourself

>>41050376
I am currently, yes. I am almost on for one year straight now. Been cruising for 9 months first to cut down and I am currently doing the first blast which will end soon

I was talking about the past. The fact i stay on now is because i always got terrible acne during PCT even after taking accutane

Losing gains is a myth I can say so because i experienced it myself. You will lose the fullness etc, but the lbm will remain

>>41050419
Fuck me daddy

For guys doing blast & cruise do you just not give a fuck about having kids or cutting years from your life?

>>41050445
That's my only concern mostly. I was thinking to go off soon and then freeze my sperm just in case

But how did those other bodybuilder got kids? Ronnie coleman got 8 kids, arnold got a lot of kids and a lot of other bodybuilders too

>>41050419
>I already proved so you utter faggot. The fact you don't believe is because muhh i can't do it myself thus nobody can do it and utter jellyness stop you from believinng
>You can't even achieve what i achieved after 4 year of natty training WITH STEROIDS, kek.
>But hey don't forget to be yourself

Who in gods name are you fooling you insane deluded faggot.
You are obviously still on in that pic.

And quite obvious to every fucking lifter who's ever touched a bar and been in a gym for longer then 2 years and knows the game that you're a fucking sawed off runt who got shit gains as a natural and jumped on at the first opportunity.

>>41050419
>You will lose the fullness etc, but the lbm will remain
This so much. Of course you will be somewhat depleted and overall less grossly swole but some retards believe you will magically atrophy overnight (and probably make a cartoonish balloon deflating sound with it) the exact moment you stop pinning.

>>41050470
Bit of a personal question but what happens when you orgasm? No sperm comes out at all?

>>41050445
"kids are just cortisol producing machines" - JM

>>41050445
>having kids
have two healthy sons whom I conceived in between years of bnc, ymmv but just providing some anecdotal evidence here
>or cutting years from your life?
eh, that might be an issue. i generally am a healthy fit motherfucker though so i will try my best lol

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>>41050500
lmao, you just giving me compliments and diamond boners without knowing it. And you're also mad af because you do you utter best to achieve only 1/100000 from that pic and you can't do it even with steroids. No wonder you're so mad

o btw, i was also natty in this picture

>>41050504
That's because most people just believe everything what other people say, without trying it out for themselves.

>>41050525
The odd thing is, sometimes my sperm looks so fucking thick like a spiderweb and it's almost close to nothing but sometimes it''s just really thin like water and a lot of it comes out. I think it also has to do with e2 perhaps

nothing is personal over here, i will share everything with you. Ask and you shall receive

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>>41050556

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>>41050556
I miss JM, PLEASE COME BACK YOU DENT MAN

Will he ever come back?

>>41050615
he ded

>>41050581
So you're still producing sperm on BnC?

>>41050581
>lmao, you just giving me compliments and diamond boners without knowing it. And you're also mad af because you do you utter best to achieve only 1/100000 from that pic and you can't do it even with steroids. No wonder you're so mad
>o btw, i was also natty in this picture

...
Dude, I know you think you can sit here and be the big fish in a little pond and lie about your gear use...
But there are more then a few people here who can spot that shit from a mile away.

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>>41050631
I think he's in another place now with his son and baby momma, living the life of kings surrounded with black bald transsexuals. Like a little paradise, that's what I am imaging him now, yes it's true i see it.

>>41050639
Who told you this bs?

>>41050656
Don't you understand you're only making it worse for yourself now. I was natty in those pictures, that's a fact and if you don't believe it and keep on raging about it i will only feel better about myself. There is no way you can win this, sorry.

Everything who don't believe it is just jelly, that's how it is and always will be. People wanna see you fail in life to feel better about their own miserable life. I am also jelly a lot of times, but it's just better to face it; some people are just better

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THIS PIC, KEK

Levrone looking huge af

>>41047599
250mg test ew would make more sense for cutting

>>41047816
how much should I trust eroid links? Im going to need to get test U or test deca before I go on vacation and the only source I can find is off of eroids. Minimum payment order is only $100 so its not that big of a deal if i get scammed but I dont want to fall into a honeypot or anything.

>>41050692
You said your sperm looks thick so presumably you are still producing it?

>>41050864
Sometimes it looks really thick and sometimes it's really thin, i can't conclude why. My gf said that my sperm also tastes very sour

Yes i am still producing. Sometimes very little, sometimes just normal, sometimes a lot of it

You guys are conflating seminal fluid with sperm.

>>41050945
so then theoretically you're still fertile on BnC?

300mg test e 2x per week blast 12 weeks

100mg test e 2x per week cruise 8 weeks

rate my cycle

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How many of you have successfully completed one cycle and stopped? did you see a drop in natty test comparing before/after?

Do roids make you feel forever small? Will people always get back on gear eventually?

>>41051328
Just one cycle isnt going to cause any long term damage to your natty hormone levels although it might take a while to recover from if your PCT isnt so good.

You will definitely go back to gear though when you realise how cheap and harmless it is considering the results it gives.

>>41051222
>>41050957
read this again and again.

No correlation. I am sterile (not from rons, got the snip way before I started pinning), but I still shoot fairly massive amounts. Retard tl;dr: seminal fluid is the bus and sperm is the passengers, mine is just empty but still drives to its location.

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>>41048779
Test @ 250/wk
var at about 40 mg/day but I stop the day before I have a fuck date
Tren Ace @ 40-50mg the morning of fuck dates.

>>41051468
dont you mean destination :^) but holy shit i thought this was common sense. this is how my gf must have felt when she had to explain to her friend that girls have one hole for pissing and one for fucking, you just dont think about this until you meet someone who never took sex ed.

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>>41048983
Sorry you feel that way and are yourself so sad that you can't be happy for someone else that's happy. Have you tried adjusting your dosages so you're confident enough in yourself that you don't have to bring other people down to feel good?

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>>41050556
> "kids are just cortisol producing machines"
this kid produces HGH

>>41051546
Sweet ad homenim fallacy breh.

>>41051587
w2c a few ounces of his blood per month. asking for a friend.

Is malay tiger t-400 any good or did i get jewed?

>>41051587
Fingerbang game must be out of this world.

also
>tfw random pajeet sideshow freak kid has better forearm gains than me
Sad!

/fraud/ what do about a grill that wants to be exclusive but I want to smash sluts (as well as her)

She already wants to be hanging out all the time, and idk how to tell her that I don't want to see her every day (she fucks my gym schedule and video game time desu)

But I rly like the girl, shes super nice and maybe 6/10 (where exgf was 8/10) but I'm not ready for a commitment because I just got out of a 5yr relationship (about a month ago)

also we work together and i don't want to hurt her feelings

or tell me to fuck off, idc .. i'm bored and shitposting but i'd prefer advice from the lads

>>41051587
baka injecting synthol in the pecs at that age, SAD!

absolutely oil breh

>>41051699
I know this sounds way too conventional and direct (and therefore difficult) but tell her exactly what you told us.

"I really like you, you're super nice, but I"m not ready for a commitment because I just got out of a 5 year relationship about a month ago."
Keep it short and sweet and simple.

>>41051763
Honesty is a great play shocker

Is Muscle Labs USA legit?

>>41048672
I don't use hcg at all. Probably bad but you can buy pregnenolone and dhea otc so... idk... hcg sources are annoying to find too and I dgaf about kids.

So I have been doing quite a bit of research on steroids and I have stumbled on apon youtuber Dylan Gemelli and although he sponsored by Isarms, he seems quite knowledge and doesnt bullshit around questions. Anyone else watch any of his videos and what are your thoughts on him?

>>41051718
which word gets changed to baka

>>41049076
You'll stall on ppl eventually.

>>41051653
They seem to have mixed reviews on forums based on labs results and personal feedback.

If you're UK go to UK muscle. There's some lab pushing but you should be able to determine what's not shit.

sis oils, sphinx, southern ghost and taylormade review well. If you can source TM you can find the others.

500/500 test/deca
12.5mg aromasin eod

Is dis gud for bulks?

I have prami, do you just start taking it when you start lactating or what?

>>41051763
Thanks m8, I just worry about being too blunt and hurting her feelings.

I'm gonna give it a shot

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>used to browse fraud ED
>felt like I was socialising
>in fact I was not, only rotting
>been round the roid block, over it, leave fraud
>pursue more social life
>toxic 4chan personality drives away everyone until I'm friendless ED
>return to fraud in shame hoping to feel a human connection

hi guys

>>41052363
Do you still take steroids?

>>41052391
not right now but I will, maybe

honestly once you've juiced for years and hit your goal body, it kinda breaks your obsession

>>41052449
speak for yourself

>>41052064
s m h

Is alcohol dangerous when on gear? Don't drink because gains>getting drunk, but i'm soon going to a social event were I want to get very drunk. I'm on 250 mg test e E3D and stopped my Adrol 3 weeks ago.

>>41052508
baka

>>41052508
baka senpai desu

>>41052522
If you're taking absolutely no oral tablets then you should be fine to drink in relative moderation.

>>41052522
You'll be fine.

Alcohol with shit like Tylenol or tren or orals that fuck your liver is risky.

>>41052522
>drinking alcohol

Enjoy your low test and high E faggot

>orals exist for increasing estrogen but nothing for testosterone
what is this sexist shit

>>41052765
TRENAVAR

>>41039380
What combo of drugs would make for the absolute best dirty bulk?

I'm going to be living in dormitories for 5 months with an all-you-can-eat meal plan and won't be able to accurately count calories, so i've been thinking about just rocking the dirtiest bulk man has ever seen (two full plates a meal, few cups of milk, etc.) as a sort of experiment.

I've got three blasts under my belt but they've been mild (500mg test for 16 weeks each)

>>41052552
Up the test, up the AI
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>41053223
test tren deca dbol

I lost my synthol virginity today I'm gonna become a water balloon soon lol

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diagnose me

>>41050615
Remember when JM tried to dry his cell phone off in the microwave? Those were the days.

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>>41053428
How necessary are bloods before and after? Should i still get them on run #2?

>>41053407
You look like a dehydrated turd you dumb chink

>>41053428
like 1 standard deviation below average

>>41053486
I got them on cycle #1. Didn't on 2 or 3 and I was fine.

The "correct" answer, is get them everytime, but I didn't

What are signs to look/feel out for that my estrogen is getting too high during a test-e cycle?

>>41053785
you have tits and cry a lot

>>41053812
If I've got tits surely by that point it's too late, I mean what are warning signs that I should take an AI

>>41053884
google??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>41053884
when you act like a woman on her period or a black person (very similar)

irrational, emotional, quick to anger, mood swings

>>41053486
bloods are a meme

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>>41053960
>>41053486

>>41053785
>>41053960
>>41053486

if you can't get regular bloods for whatever reason then you shouldn't hop on period. fucking idiots.

>>41054036
I run sometimes. Ill be fine :) thx for the concern

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>>41043465
>that car seat looming in the background like a mushroom cloud

>>41054036
calm down plebbit

Is this good for injecting?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001LXUH3A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>41054287
Try those or 25g 1 inch.

>>41053884
shouldn't you always take an AI on cycle?

>>41054410
Why? If you're not having signs of high estro, why fuck with another chemical.

Im definitely 100% over trannies
Thanks tren

>>41043465
>being cute forgives the massive flaws of roasties!
Please
Fuckin betas lmao

>>41046477
Lmao

>>41046493
Its ok if she has bewbs XD
Smh

>>41054410
Not if your estros fine
Drugs are bad

I got gyno during puberty and it never went away. What will happen if I get high estrogen on steroids? Will my nipples get puffier or should I worry less about gyno because I already have it or what?

>>41049486
It will eat your mussels anyway

>>41054587
Except dnp is highly muscle sparing.

>>41053894
You don't even know the answer lol condescending idiot

>>41054602
DNP is not muscle sparing. Keep spouting this shit bimbo, it's fucking smart as fuck

>>41054658
Alright.

Tell me why. The metabolic pathways of dnp were listed earlier in the thread. Preventing the use of atp and solely relying on adipose tissue for energy, maintains a positive nitrogen balance meaning little to no breakdown of dense tissue.

So again. Tell me why.

>>41052449
Hello

>>41054782
Hello
How are you
Any abscesses or jail recently?

>>41046503
>
> >Push/Pull/Push/Pull/Push/Pull/Rest
my nigga :)

i have an excuse. hip surgery

>tfw grill asked me to drive her home from the bar
>tfw she probably wants the D
>tfw got balanitis and can't give her D
>tfw sit on my ass on 4chan instead
>tfw even if I was fine I'm too scared to fuck her anyway

How do I stop being afraid of girls? I have social anxiety normally, but I can usually get girls. However when I try to hook up with a new girl, I get so fucking scared, like shaking and cold hands/feet, etc. and I need cialis to get it up. It's not good lads

>>41054944
Having a deep loving relationship is very easy (and you can smash whenever you want, too)
get a daki

>>41054944
Have you tried not being a massive pussy ass bitch?

>>41054566
anyone?

>>41048306
You need AI for a test blast. The Nolva is for pct not for controlling estrogen while on. Aromasin is my go to for AI. Arimidex and my e was never close to stable. Asin is just easier.

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who /JELQ/ here? I've gotten .75 inches length and .50 girth since I started a month ago. Shooting for 1.5 length and 1 inch girl gains so I can be 8x6 master race cock.

>>41055228
Did u rly cause that's a lot of gains. Whats the strat for this. I hear u wana stay around 50-75% hard

>>41055026
Just got out of one m8 ;__;
>tfw missing being c o m f y around a female
>tfw missing the amazing sex
>tfw it was for the best and I ended it but finding it hard to adapt to the loneliness and lack of sex

>>41055076
I try m8, it's not even my mentality at all. I'm confident in my speaking and sex abilities. It's just my body doesn't cooperate. My body reacts as if I were gonna give a big speech in front of 100s of people. Scared of girls is a bit of an exaggeration, it's my body that's afraid, I'm fine in my head.

Maybe I need anxiety meds.

>>41055228
what is jelqing. can u link?

>>41055243
The current theory is you want to be between 30-80% erect. The more erect you are, the more girth gains, less erect is more length gains due to the stretching of the softer penis. Some guys have gained over an inch doing it for 6 months+.

>>41055252
Get a daki
You know you want someone to hold at night again

>>41055266
http://thestallionstyle.com/how-to-do-jelqing-exercises-properly/

It also promotes blood flow to the penis so you get stronger erections, which increases size and thickness.

>>41048611
Delts and shoulders are the same fucking thing. If you work your chest without doing your tris... what the fuck kind of garbage lifts are you doing?

Daily reminder that shoulders and chest are the things that define an aesthetic physique.

>>41055407
>not hitting delts and shoulders on separate days
Shiggy muh diggy diggy doo

Approx how much should I be paying for modafinil?

>>41055782
just rob a pharmacy pussy u wont ur not man enough

>>41055873
fukin pussy ass whiteboi

>>41055873
This. Lmao pussiiii

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I look okay again

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Anyone here play sports? How do you explain testicular shrinkage to your coach on penis inspection day?

>>41055944
not with those tattoos

at least get a proper sleeve to cover that fugly shit

>>41055944
>roiding for this

>>41055944
20% bf nice

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>>41056071
Yep!

>>41041164
Yes and no, yes in as you can do it, no as in you don't wanna do it - more sides. A test base is better than nothing.
AI needed for any test above 250mg/wk

>>41056100
cant pinpoint what it is about you but you just look... stupid. no offense. its like you have the core of a 12 year old girl

>>41056150
We'll don't be a pussy about insulting someone lmao at least it nerd

>>41056150
small waist is aesthetic

>>41056170
small waist is not underdeveloped auchwitz core. wide hip bones are not the same as strong core

>>41056100
Core of a natty 16 y/o kid

>>41039409
brosplit

dorian style-4x a wek for 45 minutes

test and dbol, the only two i run...all you need IMO, diet does the rest

i wasnt insecure about my looks before i started lifting and i already had a gf. I started because I realized I was over 25 and I may never hit my true physical potential natty in time before it became too late. I dont want to hit 35-40 and never know what it was like to be jacked and look and feel amazing. this is pure vanity and to see what i can achieve in the mirror. i want to look like a freak at least once before the door closes

>>41053501
>dehydrated turd
You should fap to my current picture instead old one

>>41054944
>balanitis
yet another word I should not have googled, damn

>>41056100
hi is it true you did pron for active duty

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I just applied to a job with the Federal Bureau of Prisons for Correctional Officer. They allow beards and don't test for roids. But they're recruiting for a supermax penitentiary which is full of murderous niggers.

44k +COL audjustment for LA area and retirement + pension at 55 and 15% signing bonus. Downside is I might be killed. Did I make a mistake

>>41057125
when a job is offering a signing bonus it's usually for a reason my man RIP

>>41057125
>44k to wrangle nigger murderers in a depressing ass prison all day

>>41057125
pro: get paid to beat up tyrone twice a day
con: tyrone has lots of friends with nothing to lose

>>41055436
back/lats and ass also help

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>>41057125
Dude CO is one of the safest jobs out there.

But listen, as a former inmate, no matter what, don't be a dick. It's not cool. You already have the power. Only mentally weak COs lord that power over others. I asked a CO once what the difference was and he said this "you have to be comfortable telling another man what to do. Some guys aren't and they are bullies." The inmates will appreciate it. Also don't be afraid to call out coworkers who are dicks.

Anyway, if "doing the right thing" isn't a good enough reason, well, which guards do you think get fucked up? The respectful, upstanding ones, or the bullies?

>>41057611
well said. i have to add, as a fellow former inmate, that in some cases (and this is gonna sound like /pol/ memeing but it isnt), violent blacks will try to stick it up to the white man oppressing them no matter what, WE WERE KINGZ and all that. like, they will harass you less compared to some of the asshole COs but you are still a white guy telling them what to do. kind of a hey i kinda like you i will kill you last (but i still will) situation.

>>41057679
>inb4 /pol/ meme
>uses one but wrong (were instead of wuz)
Come to think of it that was probably the joke/point, though.

How much will using the E in my ECY stack on a 5:2 schedule fuck my shit up, withdrawal and food craving wise? I know that seems retarded to begin with but I cannot bring eph with me over the weekend (crossing country borders into one that considers it a controlled substance, lel) and just bunkering a lot where I stay is risky and complicated.

>>41039380
Is fatlifts still around?

>>41058301
yes

>>41058305
ok

>>41058305
where tho

>>41058367
here

he posts under his old trip but without a name

>>41058388
Is he back lifting, last time i was around he was volunteering or someshit and had drifted away from lifting

Why is my skin dry as FUCK on frauds? The dry skin also creates static so I get a small shock every time I touch a metal door handle

>>41058701
>>41058701
>>41058701
>>41058701
>>41039380

>>41050419
Mirin

masT what was your routine when you were natty?