/fraud/ Steroids general

>>41074003
Tren is neurotoxic
test makes gains easy
so yeah, more or less. Not all frauds take tren though

Please share experiences of tren sides. Thinking of taking it 50mg eod or something, but potential sides are the only thing holding me back.

>>41074003
A test cycle keeps me motivated as fuck. I get a lot done on it

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>>41074039
50mg eod is a good start, thats what i did when i started.
you see changed in physique pretty quick esp the higher you go - with that said more isnt always better.
the sleep sucks, want to fuck 24/7. mentioned in last thread too.

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So I'm starting very soon

250mg Test-E E3D
300mg Equipoise E3D
???amount??? Arimidex
???amount??? accutane

Is there any standard time of the day to inject? Do Test or EQ cause insomnia whatsoever?

Also I am not worried at all about injecting a needle into myself, but rather keeping the vials sterile. Good thing I have alcohol pads.

Is a dark closet (around 70 degrees farenheit) good for storing sterons? I might even keep them inside a box too.

>>41074111
>Accutane

"no"

>>41074121
I have 3 grams of accutane I plan on using at low dose.

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>>41074003
I want to look like Tinytrip. How?

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>>41074215
arrange a death for your parents
become 5 foot 4
go to the gym AT LEAST twice a week
take 700tren/test
eat VERY somewhat clean at a CALORIC DEFICIT

I'm going to order my first cycle soon, but I have to get bloods done first obviously. In MA, so I have to use health tests direct. What bloodwork do i need to get? There seem to be a thousand different option

>>41074270
This is pure nonadvice

>>41074372
no, its the truth. you are guaranteed to get the tinytrip physique with that advice

>>41074372
ded parents = sick gainz

do your parent know you dick men in the ass for money?

>>41074215
tiny used test+var iirc

>>41074215
it totally depends what you're starting at too.
but i'd say go for a real clean cut, dry compounds
and 4'10 w ded parents

>>41074286
female hormone panel
not trolling

>>41074372
At 5'4" you get a lot of Manlet gains.

Does anyone have a progress pic of before/after their first cycle?

Mast

do you ever come off your cruise? and do you use hcg while you're cruising?

>>41074483
that panel (anti-aging/female) is near $200... is that normal? If I were to get that 3 times (pre, intra, post-cycle) it'd be twice the cost of the actual gear. That seems a bit lopsided, right? I must be missing something

>>41074661
just get it once during cycle

yes its normal

>>41074661
nah shit is expensive and wack unless you have insurance.
i wouldn't harp on bloods if you're doing basic cycles

anyone else use the same needle for draw and inject

>>41074707
okay i'll consider it. i'll just be using the wiki's basic bulk, so 250mg test-e e3.5d and 12.5 aromasin e3.5d.

>>41074718
thanks mate. i have insurance it just sucks balls with gigantic deductibles. is taking an oral for the first couple weeks okay for a first cycle? The wiki seems to say you can, I was looking at Sdrol since it has the least sides.

>>41074758
>sdrol
>least sides
I guess if you consider dead liver not a side

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>>41074758
> sdrol
> least sides

Is it worth taking regular ai for 600mg test? or should i just wait for high estrogen symptoms? first timer here

>>41074776
>>41074784
I re-read the wiki, I meant Tbol. It says its the least offensive one to take, so I figured it should be alright.

>>41074808
That's pretty correct, but tbol doesn't do anything.

>>41074758
sdrol is great dry big gains. but can make you very lethargic.
if you stay 20 or under mg wont be too bad, but yeah oral to start is just fine. just know what you're doin amigo

>>41074465
I'm 5'4 145lbs 16%(?)bf.
So should I just cut to like 10%bf natty and then do test/test+var cycle and try staying lean?

>>41074825
I just want my cycle to kick in faster, rather than taking 3-4 weeks. I'd only be taking tbol to do that. are you saying that tbol won't speed up my cycle in the beginning?

>>41074858
It's just a lame drug. Do adrol.

>>41074841
sounds good to me yeah.
he is very lean, so your focus should be on carb cycling, cardio. diet will be the most important and hardest part imo. Trying to look like him isn't as consuming as like a zyzz or anything, bc it's much more muscle to have while being super lean. but still, if you have little muscle you will look more like iggy pop after a real hard cut

>>41074796

wait for symptoms to not hinder your hueg gains

>>41074875
> implying a 5'4 roidmonkey can look like our natty zyzz

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>>41074875
Thanks man.
ye it fucking sucks looking like a 12 years old boy when i cut, but i'll try my best

>>41074003
Has anyone ever estimated the level of roids Hafthor Bjornsson was on to get to 400lbs at 6'9 in a relatively short time?

>>41074948
1. hes not 400lbs
2. he was already in his 20s when he started
3. he has probably only gained 110lbs while on steroids

>>41074912
thank you zyzz bird
>>41074923
it's part of the journey.
i was fat as fuck, started going to the gym and wanted to look like a fitness model. lost a ton of weight and realized i wasn't builtfat, turned into a skeleton. from there started gaining muscle. i could barely bench the bar.
JamesTinyvest on youtube is a great channel to watch. he shys away from hormone talk (which honestly is a big part of a e s t h e t i c s, but gives it real that it's actual commitment to shit.
for me now, i'm more focused on just being happy and successful than obsess over hormones and training.
sorry for the blog, i took way too much adderal kek

>>41074966
>>41074948
nevermind, wikipedia is saying he is 460lbs... i was under the impression he was 360lbs.

nonetheless its a mystery

What would the gains and side effects of say, 5mg a week of Sdrol for a 12-16 week blast when compared to 20mg for 4 weeks?

Pals... WHEN do u inject urself.

Does it matter, as long as its consistent?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12748092

>>41074979
He just keeps getting bigger and bigger, it's hard to keep track.

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>>41074976
thanks, I will check out his channel and just keep cutting to 10%bf :^/

>>41074891
are you saying that taking ai hinders gains?

>>41075068
not him but estrogen has some benefits if u can ignore looking disgusting

>>41075096
with test-e do i need to take it right from the start or can i wait a few weeks until the ester kicks in?

I'm gonna be taking Tren E at 125mg e3d, so roughly 290mg pw, alongside 100mg Test E e3d. How much caber should I be taking?

>>41075223
You do not need caber with tren. Why the fuck has this awful, awful meme caught on so badly?

>>41074858
something like adrol or dbol works better, plus you said you're going with aromasin so you wouldnt have to worry about anything with dbol

>>41075241
I got this from the /r/steroids wiki

>Also, like other 19-nor compounds trenbolone increases prolactin levels. Side effects related to these reactions can include breast growth and lactation. To prevent these side effects as they relate to increased prolactin levels a user can use several compounds including bromocriptine, vitamin b6, and/or cabergoline.

>>41075223
290/week is low as fuck so you probably wont even need caber
it good to have on hand though

>>41075511
Yeah this is about what I run, I spent big money on caber but don't need it, I wouldn't run it without having it on hand though, I don't want milk tits

Running my summer 250mg week test cypionate cruise.

Dealing with some joint pain. Old injuries giving me long lasting aches, spent 6 years in the army when younger. Still have knee issues.

I'm thinking of adding in NPP at 75mg and taking it only 1 time per week.

I'm a minimalist with hormone use, and I prefer to keep sides low.

Will 75mg of NPP once per week be enough to make joints feel good without having to resort to caber to get my dick hard?

Age 36, training for 20 years.

Looking at 20 weeks of 250mg cypionate + 75mg 1 x weekly NPP.

The other 36 weeks in a year I take 100mg test cyp for basic TRT/anti-aging.

>>41076061
Try 150-200 test and 100mg Deca. NPP is way too short-estered to pin once a week.

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I fucked up my first injection really bad.

Can someone post a guide so I can actually pin right this time?

>>41076138
Well, you had the right idea by sliding the needle into your body and then jamming the syringe to bend it at a 90 degree angle. I think where you went wrong is that you didn't insert it into the eyeball, you inserted it somewhere else. Everyone knows that to inject steroids correctly you must insert directly into the eye and then sharply bend the needle at a 90 degree angle, then start pushing the plunger.

>>41076138
Don't inject at all, you retard.
Steroids make your balls smaller and destroy your brain cells.

>>41076061
>1 x weekly NPP.
kek

Why take the prop version of deca if you are just going to use it once a week.

>>41076111

Would it actually need to be active in the blood 100% of the time to gain the joint relief?

With an active life of 4.5 days, that is a decent amount of time for the receptor sites at the joint to receive the signal and elicit a physiologic change.

The very idea was to keep the sides at bay without resorting to caber.

I'm fine pinning it at 50mg 2x per week as well. Have plenty of pins around.

The idea is to use it as low of a dose as possible and as infrequent as possible, as the other main purpose of use is sexual enhancement, and for that 250mg of test is a sweet spot for me.

Don't need an AI at that testosterone dose, and rock hard erections frequently. like being a teen again.

I just don't want nandrolone to mess that up, but also want my joints to feel somewhat better too.

>>41076205

The other benefit of NPP is that if sides occur it gets out of the system a lot faster than Deca.

>>41076170
but im already dumb and i have tiny nuts

haha checkmate cunt

I plan on injecting 150mg test per week and 50mg tren eod. What will I need to take alongside this?

Quick question

Aromasin permanently inhibits the aromatase enzyme but your body is constantly producing these enzymes right? And does your body constantly produce all enzymes or just certain ones?

>>41076288
cyanide

Is proviron libido increase comparable to anything else?

Added 50 ed to 600 test a few days ago. Don't know if it's too early but feel notable boost in mood.

>>41076250
>if sides occur it gets out of the system a lot faster

You're not exactly going to be on a massive dosage there m8

>>41076250
I've like long esters for the opposite reason.
Long half life means smooth hormone levels. Means less stress in my experience.

>>41076288
To add to this, how real is tren cough? That's my main fear, don't really want to experience choking half to death.... Is it significant on such a moderate dose?

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>>41076292
Constantly makes the ones you need.

>>41076487
muh dick
>>41076459
it can be mild, sometimes very aggressive. you just deal wit it, doesn't last too long

>>41076292 this>>41076487
Your body tries to reach a balance. When you add stuff to the system it does it's best to counter act it by producing more or less natural hormones.
That's why your balls shrink. You body is shutting down test production, because it thinks it made too much.

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>>41076546
>muh dick
Finally, someone else who likes them THINN.

>>41076564
very much so, anon

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>>41076597
Wew. Gotta go to bed for workworkworkworkwork.

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>>41076622
Actually she's pretty average. Have some 4'9" womanlet as compensation.

>>41076557
>>41076487
that's hormones though, right? I assumed enzymes are a little different.

I got spooked when I read about aromasin's permanent inhibition on wikipedia. Is it permanent in the sense that a certain number will be deactivated and new ones will be created eventually or permanent in that you have a finite amount of enzymes?

thanks for the help btw

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>>41076622
way too thic bro.
more like this

So I am doing a helluva research on basic steroids, and the fact I have a bachelor degree in life science helps it as well.

Anyways, my stats are 5"6 143 lb DRY (after glycogen deplete) and standing around 13%-14% bodyfat.

my recent blood work states that my test is 387 ng/dl or 13.4 nmol/l

now Im fucking 25 and I feel that's a bit on the low side so im looking to potentially up that by taking just basic cycle 250-300 test en per week.

now I just want to know I only want to do this cycle once, say 12 weeks and decided to stop doing anymore cycles after that, with good PCT would that let me keep my gains or would my test go even lower.

>>41076642
You eat asin and you have permanently less estrogens

>>41076703
How many strings did they tie together to make a longer piece of string? Show your work

>>41076713

I just want to know if its a meme when they say you lose your gains, but doing a good laid out pct can make it the opposite.

>>41076703
>387 ng/dl

Time for TRT

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So i got a beginner question. It may sound stupid, but hey, I'm on steroids, I'm retarded by default.
if i go blast and cruise life, will i be able to have kids a few years down the road?
Im 22, at the end of my first cycle and love it. Needle is a nice little thrill to me, and the gains and performance make this worth the lifestyle.
But having a son to carry the torch is essential so i dont know if i should pct, lose my nice gains, and give it up until later, or b&c.
The plan for younglings is around 26 when we have lots of $ saved.
If anything ill get a few batches of sperm frozen. Actually pretty cheap.

>>41076642
>>41076708
This why they say it's tough to find your sweet spot with asin. Once you take too much you permanently will never have enough again.

>>41076768
plenty guys have kids on gear. pro bodybuilders do.
in hulk hogans book he talked about how he got his wife preg while he was on roids

>>41076708
>>41076770
But that conflicts with what others say which is that you continually produce aromatase enzymes.

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>>41074566
This is before a 10mg ED Ligandrol cicle and about 45 days in, with about 500cal deficit, if that is any help.

Let's say I'm cruising on a TRT dose of Test C (150mg/wk). What's wrong with blasting by throwing in 80mg of Tren Ace ED on top of my TRT Test dose and letting the Tren do the work? E2 would be fine, no need for an AI, no need to buy extra Test, etc.

>>41076818
Whoa... so this is the power of SARMS... in only 45 days you managed to walk to your bathroom

>>41076818
The fucking sarms meme lmfao nice.

Anyone else chuckle when they realize how small vials are

>>41076863

If you think 10mL vials are funny, check out a 5mL. Now THOSE are cute! lol

Adex dosage on a cruise (200mg/week)? I didn't think I'd need anything, but a few weeks in and I'm a bit oily and emotional.

>>41076863
>>41076870
The way you guys are disrespecting the vial is really pissing me the fuck off. You little fuckong bitches dont appreciate what it does for you? Motherfucking ungreatful.
I thought this was a PASSIONATE STERIOD COMUNITY but SURE i Can SEE ur FUCKING DISRESPECTFUL TO THE GIFT UPON US.

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>>41076941
haha xD

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>>41076941
Yeah I know whatcha mean.

>>41076821
You'll need to fuck around with caber or some other prolactin shit. If you thought havin to deal with AIs was confusing and stressful, this is a whole different ball game

>>41076961
What the fuck is that?

>>41076961
dude wtf

what's it like going to have sex and then having the girl run away when she sees that shit

>>41077038

physical evidence that god hates the sexually immoral

Where do you fraud niggers work?

Just got bloods done, my free test is off the charts over 1900, test 78 (8-29.0), e2 is 0.20 ( <0.15 range) and shgb is 7 (15-95).

First 4 weeks 30mg dbol/ed and 500mg test c/w. 0.25mg adex eod. Should I be worried about the e2 or shgb?

I feel like im not getting gains any faster than normal... 6th week about to start.

>>41077038
Some reeeal angry warts, bruh. Day after getting them frozen with liquid nitrogen.

>>41077061
Shit sucks, but it's kind of liberating because now (and for the next 2-3 months) I don't have to worry about picking up, because I know for an absolute fact that it's not gonna happen.

ok can someone please explain what I need to take with tren (with test-e at trt levels), some people have said nothing others have said a load of shit for prolactin, confused asf right now

>>41077213
you should have caber around in case you get sides, but unless you're running higher doses eh.
i usually don't. think ive only actually used it a few times ever

Can you store steroids in presence of light? Should you pin in the dark? Lmao.

>>41074039
are you kidding? the sides are the reason i want to do it.

I am currently living in Taiwan and I read that I can get test over the counter at pharmacies here. What is the best place to start reading everything I need to know about this? I am looking for good information

>>41077279
may sound like a stupid question but cant arimidex have the same effect?

>>41074286
go to discountedlabs, search "PCT". $108 has everything you need for pre-cycle bloodwork.

>>41074286
complete pre-cycle bloodwork is something you will thank yourself repeatedly for, because when you get work done mid or post cycle, you need something to compare it to! and im not talking just test and e2, but shit like liver and blood count.

I had some anomolies on my mid cycle bloods (things out of range) but i was able to not freak the fuck out because i looked at my precycle bloodwork and saw the values were already near the edge of the range. it's just how i am normally.

>>41074286
oh and since you are a poorfag, all the bloodwork places have coupons all over. just google the shit and you can get like 5-15% off any order.

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>>41077338
not a stupid question, they are two different hormones so you treat them different.
i used to know more w that shit, but over time you realize it isn't a huge thing you have to worry about just something to be cautious of. mostly when doing higher doses. or unless you are very sensitive. you learn all that shit over slowly dipping your feet into all this
>>41077288
lol you wild

>>41076818
looks like SARMS burned your fucking tattoo off too

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>>41077410
>>41076818

wait.. which one is the before pic???

>>41074755
hell no. one time i tried to draw with a 25g. holy fuck it is slow and i feel like im scraping the shit out of the rubber. you are telling me you want to draw incredibly slow and then inject incredibly slow too?

there is absolutely no reason on earth to "save money" reusing pin shit. i suppose if you have incredible dexterity and control you could inject with 21g and not waterjet the fuck out of your muscle tissue. but why nigga. why.

https://crazy-bulks.com/?utm_source=MN&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=MoreNiche&utm_content=100103

How fake is this shit?

>>41077407
So 50mg tren eod shouldnt give me any problems with prolactin?

>>41077482
I looked at one and the ingredients were literally whey protein and tribulus.
scumbags
i was trolled by gnc once before, spent a paycheck of mine during college on this testomax type bullshit. triggering subject

>>41077508
it could, you could be sensitive. but most likely not. that's a good starting dose too

>>41077590
If the risk is low on a small dose I don't really want to potentially waste a lot of money on caber desu

>>41076703
>I just want to know I only want to do this cycle once
you don't know fucking SHIT bro.

>>41076768
are you sure keeping sperm on ice is cheap. ive looked into it, and it's not. you are paying a per-year fee of thousands.

>>41077623
oh no, i hear ya. i don't think i had caber when i did 50mg eod. then when i ramped up i bought some. i think i used it a few times just to try it. made me lethargic.
also though, i take adderal which apparently can do the same job. it is a progesterone antagonist somehow? something i read could be broscience. i'm far from someone who pretends to know it all

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>>41077213
> unironically asking for medical advice on 4chan

>>41077336
the reddit steroids wiki mentioned in every fucking fraud thread ever you faggot. or how about, since you can just go to the pharmacy and buy it, ask the goddamn gook pharmacist.

>>41077678
>memeing a man into lactating
truly the sport of kings

>>41077623
>wanting to take tren
>not wanting to be on a comfy test only cycle

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>>41077556
don't feel bad man. on our fitness journeys, we've all made some cringy mistakes along the way.
>pic related

>>41077728
on 150mg of tren a week?
like i just said, possible but unlikely
you could offer your own advice, anon

>>41076815
Where are you getting your info?

A good responder will only have to dose asin once, maybe twice in their life

>>41077777
Heavenly quints of truth damn

How long will it take before I start to notice results on test-e? It's of particular importance as I'm rebounding from extreme starvation due to illness so calorie intake is huge, I don't want to spend weeks getting fat before it kicks in

>>41077777
lmao

>>41074039
I am on 50mg ED and I feel great. I am taking the correct precautions (as far as I know) like caber, AI, and I forgot what I use for the cardio (I'm taking a shit right now) but I think it's nasacort.

what are typical prices and cycles for clen?

>>41077919
5-6 wks
>>41078085
i think a bottle of liquid clen is like 60 bucks?

>>41078085
>i think a bottle of liquid clen is like 60 bucks?
arent they tablets?
how long does a bottle last?

>>41078050
Did you have high prolactin before starting caber? I wouldn't fuck around with dopamine unless you really have to.

>>41078307
you can get it in a liquid suspension
tabs are the better way to go though, but liquid you can buy easily on a "research chemical" site.
so it's a trade off.
a bottle lasts me a long time, it's a pretty small dose and comes in a....idk probably 20-30ml bottle.
been a while since i did clen, i just take bronkaids now (ephedrine)

so I know testosterone is generally not recommended to those who are at risk for heart disease...what about someone who has a heart murmur? I want to start my first cycle but I am afraid that with my murmur is may be a bad idea

>>41078050
Doesn't caber cause blindness

>>41074755
This isn't usually a good idea since you can get pip from the needle blunting while drawing. Just change needles and save yourself some misery

>>41078371
just do it. Get jacked or die mirin

>>41078520
Clomid can cause vision problems. Different c drug.

>>41076818
I seem to lack the necessary neuronal pathways to fully process the fact this might as well not be bait.

>>41077410
mirrors, how do they work??

>>41077774
>>pic related
the fuck is this, seems somewhat familiar

>east euro
>20yo
>working in construction
>no car
>gym is 3km away

If I start taking test e without going to the gym and just working my hard manual labor job until I save enough money for a car will that have any positive or negative effects on my body or will it just be for nothing?

I'm 186cm 100kg and my goal is to lose some fat btw.

>>41080029
you'll still be a faggot slav

>>41080038
just know that i would kill you if you said this to my face

>>41080046
Just know it changes nothing. Cock sucker.

>>41080050
lmfao little bitch give me your skype or fb

>>41080050
>>41080046
Anyway, your best bet it to put all your money towards getting a vehicle.

But 3km is not far so you clearly arent that interested in making it to the gym and because of this is would say stay away from steroids.

>>41080062
its pretty far when youre walking to it

>>41080073
No it absolutely is not.

>>41080029

Just run to the gym 3km each way is a pretty good warm up and cool down

>>41080073
it's a 30min walk if you're an average/slow walker.
you're lazy as fuck

>>41080077
it absolutely is after a long day of hard labor
with a car i won't waste so much time and energy

or will the test give me more energy?

>>41074039
For anyone that my read this thinking about tren and trying to figure out what the mental sides of tren are through the B.S.

Tren will not make you a psychopath. Tren will shorten your temper. If you have an already short temper, it will be bad for your relationships. If you have a long temper it will shorten it, but it should be manageable if you don't have anger issues. Tren will severely reduce your capacity to care about societal pressure to conform to behavior standards.

The people who tren turns into "psychopaths", are the people with shitty personalities who only care about themselves, but still retain feelings (or else they would actually be psychopaths.) Social pressure usually keeps these people from being too forward with their selfishness, but Tren will destroy your regard for social pressure, and when that's gone, you get to see the person behind the mask while they're on Tren.

If a person is on Tren, but still acts in accordance to societal pressure, then it's not actually societal pressure that guides the actions of the person. Rather it is their own ethics that happens falls in line with societal norms.

TL;DR: Tren shows you who is not a selfish asshole when societal pressure is lifted.

>>41080109
Look at everything you're saying, you are starting out by making excuses for not fucking making it to the gym.

You're already on the wrong path, so until you WANT to go to the gym enough to actually get there then you can think about adding in extras like steroids.

You will only end up fucking yourself up.

>>41074039
Sides are mostly overblown. That being said, it'll boil down to your personality type. If you're the type that drinks a couple beers and suddenly wants to fight, leave tren alone.

The insomnia is the worst side, but there are ways around it. Zquil, and a fat blunt after working out puts me to sleep even while taking 100mg ace daily.

The strength boost is by far my favorite! I love walking to gym to bust incline presses of 100lbs when all i could do 4 weeks ago were 65lbs. Every lift going up weekly. Its fucking gold!

>>41080117
>are the people with shitty personalities who only care about themselves
thats literally a psychopath though
and get that fucking retarded "psychopaths have no feelings" shit out of your head, they do have feelings

they just don't have empathy

>>41080109
I work 10 to 12h a day of physical labor and still go to the gym 5 days a week, even when not on cycle

force yourself the first few times then it'll be easy

>>41080073
25-30min. brisk walk, 15-20min. easy jog, even less for a fast paced run (>muh cardio). Nigga you just lazy.

>>41080134
>t. Pyschopath
thanks for semantically correcting my definitions errors.

Allow me to rephrase.

Tren will make non-psychopaths, people with empathy and selfish, even more selfish and less empathetic. So, by seeing how much of a swing towards psychopathy they take, you can judge the amount of empathy they have and how selfish they are when they are not on Tren.

>>41080204
what if someone's already a psychopath

>>41080221
>Can tren make a psychopath even more pyschopathic?

I read a story once of someone on Tren who would pick fights for fun with everyone around them, so based upon one internet story, I would say so.

They didn't state that they were psychopathic, but I've never read an experience of Tren that was even remotely similar. Which leads me to think that their empathy was even lower before tren than most of the people who use tren and post their experiences. Sure I've read a lot of stories about people making huge issues out of insignificant things, but never starting fights on purpose.

>>41080293
>I read a story once of someone on Tren who would pick fights for fun with everyone around them
kek thats literally everyone from my town
some people just want to fight

>>41080306
Note: This person did not start fights with people around them for fun before starting tren.

>>41080309
but i don't need tren to start fights for fun
if i take tren, what comes next?

>>41080317
You'll kill.

>>41080317
Fighting dogs for fun? I was on my way to the gym the other night, and some woman was taking her full grown male Doberman out to shit.

I looked at it and started thinking, I bet I could beat that fucker in a fight.

Bonus Tren Dream: Dreamed I was back in High School. I was up at the teachers desk while she was looking at a paper of mine. She looked up at me and asked me how much I weighed yesterday. I'm thinking "Oh shit. Play it cool. Get out of this mess and then get off Tren ASAP." I told her I don't weigh myself.

Ausbrah here, If I could just go to a supp shop and buy it, I would be on gear.

But I don't wanna fuck around online, trying not to get my CC info stolen for some Chinese bathtub chemical

>>41074003
bunch of losers can't make gains without cheating baka

^^ retard

^ double retard

>>41080685

>bitcoins
>CC info stolen

ok

>>41080685
Lol dude chill out.
The rule of thumb for me is if the chinese man can recite the english alphabet for me, then he can be trusted with my CC info.
Been buying gear for 8 years now, no problems

>>41077774
damn that picture is cancer dont even post that ironically

>>41081011
I should not have laughed at this

Okay. Just injected for the first time. Only took 3 needles before I figured it out. Don't think I wasted much oil at all. Just a little wet where I injected though, but I assume most (95%) of it went in.

No pain, been massaging too.

Can't really check my ass cheeks but yeah I'll call it a success.

Just successfully injected for the first time. 250mg Test-E and 300mg Equipoise.

What should my arimidex dosing and schedule be? X amount every Y days?

I have way more than enough but I don't know the dose.

Is the tren:test ratio a meme?

>>41081412
your PIP is going to be bad for the first injection into a muscle just so you know

>>41081549
I don't feel anything unless I focus on it which is just a slight tingle.

I got a flu shot a few months back and now it just made my arm tingle for a few days

Has anybody gotten estro symptoms when their e2 was just barely in range (like upper thirties or forty in a 7-42 reference range), or is that not possible?

>>41081502
Congrats on doing zero research, enjoy your tits.

>>41081600
PIP takes a day or two to kick in. Ice packs and NSAIDs help.

>>41081612
You can definitely get estro symptoms within range, just like you can have low t in range or put muscle on like you have high t when it looks low etc. It's about sensitivity.

I believe the problem is when you have low E it can look like high E so you need to have some idea of whether it's probably low or high for you and therefore whether you need to up or lower aromatase inhibitors or whatever you're using. If you're at the top of range increasing the dose a bit won't hurt probably.

Also remember that you're not generally having your bloodtests when t and e are highest, you'll be having them at some point after your dose/highest level.

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Who else here has an unhealthy relationship with food?

>friday night
>eat shitloads of sausages, grains and dairy based shit like rice pudding, chocolate milk, etc
>easy 2500-3000 cals
>eat nothing on sunday
>start eating normally monday night

It ends up being a deficit usually, but it's still not mentally and emotionally healthy.

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>>41081833
Are you retarded?

>>41081881
i'd say get rid of all the shitty food you have in your house, so at least you'd binge on something healthy and not feel so guilty about it

but you're a neet i can smell you through my computer screen

>>41081953

I'll have you know I stack shelves on the supermarket 2 minutes away from my house.

>>41081974
>my house

>>41081881
know this feel. shift worker and somedays its hard to get in more than coffee, other days its 3000 calories in a sitting

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>>41081881
>>41082003
> uses steroids
> can't eat properly

>>41081917
Have you ever used steroids? You don't always get pip instantly. Maybe if you're using concentrated gear with super solvents it'll kick in quickly but otherwise nah.

>>41082024

>bein autistic

shouldn't have gotten that flu vaccine, now you're injecting yourself with more shit that further worsens your autism

>>41082071
> implying you will get PIP when its 75 degrees outside and the concentrations are 250mg/ml
I also pinned flawlessly. No blood, no oil.

Why u gotta fearbait? Nobody getting pip today friend.

At least ur not reddit. Some fag on reddit told me a similar thing and I went thru his post history and he was a queer.

>>41082134
autism is over expression of masculine traits. bad if you're a beta cuck, absolutely fine if you're muscular.

>>41082147
Says the autist hopeful on /fit/

>>41082143
enjoy your pip m8

this general is fucked

>>41081849

Ok, thanks. I've been trying to decide what dose to use when I drop to a cruise in the future. Based on my (heavy) aromatization, the dose I want would put me in the higher end of e2. I know it's not linear, but the rough estimate is better than nothing imo. I'll probably aim for something lower.

>>41082143
>Only took 3 needles before I figured it out. Don't think I wasted much oil at all

>I pinned flawlessly

enjoy your pip b8m8

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>>41082253
that was drawing

U mad? Yeah, u mad cuz IM naturally already higher test than u.

>>41076557
But some guys naturally have high or low testosterone. How does the body know what is too much or too little?

How much size could I shave off my legs by cutting? 22% right now at 240lbs.

>>41082265
post pre cycle bloods then. I mean you did get pre cycle bloods, right?

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>>41082306
I dont need to get bloods when my nipples are flat as a dime and my skin is as dark as my ballsack

u sure love to hate tho, so talk to this mirror. it will give u stuff to criticize all day long! u dumb fucker.

<3

>>41082342
Ugh.

>>41082300
How could we possibly know without seeing your legs?

A couple inches maybe.

>>41082438
Ive switched from texas method to PPL and have just been doing the 6x4 squats and omitting the leg press because im tired of not fitting into clothes, especially when my waist is much thinner than the corresponding thigh measurement (like ill need a waist size 42 for my legs when my waist is only 38 inches)

>>41082471
>38 waist
Wow you need to cut

Its suprising how much your legs shrink though
Youll lose a good amount

>>41082502
> Wow you need to cut
> Its suprising how much your legs shrink though
> Youll lose a good amount

Yeah I had a 29 inch waist back when I was a 150lb teenager but assuming I cut to 190lbs I don't expect it to get much below 34 inches if at all. Well it depends. Because I'll definitely have less fat but more muscle. Im not sure how it will play out. Ive stopped doing deadlifts and heavy squats.

>>41082471
Like Jerry said, if you've got a 38 inch waist you're probably a lot higher than 22%.

>>41082528
Im sure you can get near 30

Heck my legs fit in any pants now fine
Although I did stop squating and doubt I could hit 2pl8 anymore lol

>>41082602
>I did stop squating and doubt I could hit 2pl8 anymore
And benching?
What happened to hench Jerry?

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>>41082619
I also stopped deads lol

I could squat and dead now that my surgerys all done and healed
But I just want big arms

Maybe when Im sub10% ill join xfit to clean and meet women

>>41082718
honestly I don't see a point to deadlifting anymore. I work upper back and lats, do front squats for legs. What is the point of diddly lifting?

>>41082941

Its good for grip strength, weak forearms, core and overall strength builder.

That said you can still definitely get away with cutting deadlifts if your primary goal is how you look.

>>41082975
Exactly
And those are all easy enough to target with accessories

600mg tren-e per week (take half 2x a week)
Arimidex on hand if needed

Good for a first cycle?

>>41083115
try again

>>41083283
FUCK i meant test-e not tren

>>41083311
Looks good then

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>>41082941
This fucking guy gets it!
Thank you!

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>>41083402
>he says as he posts a pic of a chick who definitely deadlifts

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4 hours after my first injections and I feel like a jolly old sport. I cant stop laughing. Its like having 6 cups of coffee but without the sides and jitters.

I can get used to this.

>>41083316
Thanks, could you possibly go in to a bit of detail about when I should take arimidex and how much? What symptoms should I look for that I need it and symptoms that I should cut down on how much of it im taking

ITT: dyel faggots taking bimbo's hip anti-deadlift lifestyle seriously

and jerry of all people u are supposed to be our voice of reason

baka

>>41083586
placebo is a fun lil thing

>>41080317
I'm an overly aggressive asshole on no gear, on tren I'm actually way nicer as long as I fuck at least once a day

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Im regretting doing tren e
Not in the right mindset

>>41083757
Oh sure im the voice of reason there
But I dont see any of you guys with anabolic dakis

>>41083671
I'd wait popping it until you get dat feels or itchy nips. Every body is different so I can't give you exact numbers

>>41081827
Was going to type roughly the same thing, why do people shoot shit in them without researching, do they want to lactate, cause this is how you lactate

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>>41083848
>Not in the right mindset
ill say, bitch ass doesnt even deadlift anymore jerry how much u weigh now huh?? how u expect to go full ramy

>>41083876
Is 0.25mg a good start?

>>41083935
>neck wider than my thigh
>best girl tattoo
>heinous amounts of body hair
please let me bear your gay babies jerry

>>41083935
Like 205
Its all in my arms now though, who needs deds and squats

Name one reason to do deds that not
>muh lumbar
>nuh pete

>>41083944
Thats a ton to me
How fat are you

Do like 1/2 of that eod atleast
Gotta watch for the rebound

>>41083990
Sub 10% body fat I think. The pills are tiny bro I don't think I can cut it smaller than 0.25mg lol

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>>41083990
i guarantee u look much worse now without deads u delusional mfer

where do i get a case without getting ripped off

theyre expensive and most of them are shit

>>41083981
>best girl tattoo
Youre already in
Swing on by bb

>>41084053
Then youll def need less than .25mg
I cut them with scissors or shatter them with a knife but you can always take a bite out of a shard
Youll need to experiment with dosing anyways, just keep it atleast eod since itll rebound

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I'm doing a massive bulk on my first cycle of testE. 15 week cycle.

as far as timing the cut, when should I do that? Should I cut down some fat while I'm still on cycle, possibly at the very end, so I don't lose as much muscle? Or should I cut down during my PCT? When do you cool monkeys and slipper snakes do your cutting?

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>>41084071
No way I look better than ever
Like a 12 or 13/10 easy

I like hobbyheart
Chinese roids, chinese pillow wives

>>41084133
Dont cut on pct youll lose gains cause your test will be low

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Man the sweating on 2g of tren is insane.

>>41084133
you never cut after a cycle

welcome to the pleb tier non bnc life

>>41084196
Everytime you post you seem to have upped the dose by 100-200mg

I should leave for a bit just to come back and see you pin 6g/wk kek

>>41076459
just dont inject into your blood vessels man

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>>41084196
Please delete your post, those breasts are too large

>>41076768
what torch? you're on drugs, just get a tall strong natty to impregnate your wife

>>41084097
You sure m8? That's a lot lower than what others have told me to take

>>41080109
i would advise you start as soon as you can really
test is an excellent all round drug for health, though its primary function is to build muscle so the benefits to you will be felt at a dose proportional to the work that you're doing, you will likely need 5g a week. after the effects begin to become noticeable you will find it much easier to run to and from work (which you should be doing as fast as you can to allay any possible side effects of test) and increase your heart health

>>41084408
Is it pharma?
Pharma adex is very strong

>>41078344
Nah I don't think so atleast. And whys that?

I mean I do a lot of drugs like coke and stuff so I'm sure my dopamine is fucked

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>>41084460
>>41084408
>>41084097
Dif guy here running a pretty similar cycle around 600mg and I cut my adex in half and the other half shattered to dust. Will probably try using a kitchen knife next time instead of my pocket cutlet.

>>41084460
yeah it is, and ok. can you elaborate on the rebound of taking it?

>>41084506
Shatter it in a bowl and lick it up

>>41084508
Adex binds to the receptors stopping estro from binding
But that estro is still there so if you fall off the adex it all hits you back

>>41084533
So what I have to take adex forever or?

>>41084560
For your whole blast atleast, then taper it down as your estro levels will fall as well, although its easy to crash your estro on a taper at the end

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post funny fraud images

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>>41084611

Why exactly is Clomid giving me a permanent sinus headache?

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>>41084649
L O W E S T R O G E N

>>41084649
you doing that clomid+low dose var pseudo natty shit? hows that working out so far

>>41084597
does the excess estrogen just disappear over time then?

>>41083935
Jerry, I just bought a ticket for the animelo summer fest on sunday. Teach me how I become big enough for either Nana Mizuki or
Inori Minase to notice me.

P.s I got floor tickets so im going to push my way to the absolute front.

>>41082528
You would be surprised, I thought the same shit a while ago before I really ever cut to low bf, Im a size 32, 250lbs 6'1 and can get my legs into the right pants, relaxed fit lucky brand is your friend, I squat 5 plates and deadlift 625, if I can fit in this shit you can do just keep cutting

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>>41084727
thanks for the rec of heard of that brand before

>>41084649
stop shitposting on /pol/ and keep blogposting here i miss it

thx ily

>>41084754
Yeah no problem, they have them at Costco cheap as fuck sometimes but that's about the only jeans that fit me ok, make sure they say relaxed fit, the regular straight legs fit me like skinny jeans, if that's your thing though they still seem better than most brands for thicc thighed individuals.

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> The God of Mire

>>41084707
Basically

>>41084715
>Inori Minase
Thats pretty good taste, im suprised
>tfw you listen to the #fe ost on the drive to work

Take as much tren, sdrol, adrol, and test as you can survive (with ad much hgh or peps as you can afford) and lift 3x a day and never stop eating bananas, rice, halibut, and ben n jerrys

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>>41074017
What about deca?

> some of y'all try to scare me about Pip
> feel it coming on in my knee
> shoot hoops for 45 minutes
> gone
Y'all must be some lazy fuckers PIP is nonexistent if your gear is fine and you actually get off your couch

I have a pit bull. Is there any way to extract pure testosterone from his body and shoot it into mine to increase gains? He's very lean so I assume he has a lot.

^ some of the first attempts to isolate testosterone were done by crushing animal testicles into powder and injection. However it had no effect

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Tfw week 3 on 500/400/30 test deca dbol and have gain like 2 shekels.
I guess 3500 calories is not enough.
How many calories do you guys eat on a bulk? I don't want diabetes so I was trying to chill with carbs and I thought 300g protein or 1.5bw was was a meme? Is it not?

>>41084903
I was planning on getting him fixed this weekend, should I ask the vet if I can keep his balls? There's gotta be tons of test in those babies.

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>>41082265
Tom of Finland draws such aesthetic men, no homo.

>>41084871
>Pip in knee
wut

>>41084919
At least 5k pussy unless you're a manlet baby back bitch. Anything less and you're wasting your money.

>>41084925
>I was planning on getting him fixed this weekend
why would you ruin your dog

he'll turn into a weak little bitch and eat himself to an early grave

>>41084715
TILAPIA
I MEANT TILAPIA

>>41084941
Whenever I go to the dog bark normies lecture me. I can't go anywhere with my high test pit bull without some normie faggot saying I'm irresponsible and a danger to others.

>>41084937
Sheit ok. I'm a manlet though, 5'7.

>>41084919
3500 is how much a normal person eats on a bull without roofs. Just how short are you my man?

>>41084970
kill them

>owning a dog in the city
>leaving it alone to bark 8hrs a day assuming you work
i hate niggers like you

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What fun shit is there to see in Boston? Girlie wants to fly up there for a day or two.

>>41084248
I'll probably only be at 2g for a week, too much oil.

>>41084269
Shush, they're perfect

>>41084894
If you have a few hundred thousand dollars laying around for a HPLC/MS then yeah.

>>41084871
Have fun tomorrow lol

>>41085044

North End, Newbury and Boylston streets, Quincy market, the bay (harbor? warf? whatever they're calling it now)... Plenty of other stuff, too.

I also really like the aquarium.

>>41085044
>What fun shit is there to see in Boston?
go kill alex for us

>>41082941
How do you work hams then?
I do Romanian just for that.

Psa: mk677 is pretty much a formula for roid gut.
>>increases gh
>>increases systemic igf1 (the kind your guts want)
>>insulin resistance

I just wanted a thicc jaw :(

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>>41085144
I'll buy all his laptops.

>>41085092
Thanks. I know she said she wanted to go to Little Italy, didn't get to list off all of the places though.

>>41085220
nice source dude, hey while you're at it why don't you fearmonger about crippling pip and permanent suppression

If I get some symptoms of high estrogen and take 0.25mg arimidex, how soon will I be able to tell if it was enough?

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>>41085044
>tfw no gf to go on trips with

Just started Trt after convincing my doc to put me on. My regimin is biweekly cypionate shots, hcg and an AI.

I feel like I got prescribed a low dose of test though. I've had two weeks of 140mg a week and I'm not getting the feelings people that are on 200+ a week describe (libido, energy, strength etc).

I wanna stay on trt for as long as I have to but I want to make gains quickly without running a tren cycle or any other anabolic. Would mixing my current regimin with additional test cyp from online sources get me to point I want to get to? Ideally I'd like to take like 250mg of test a week.

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>>41074079

LE GEN DA RY

>>41085357
If only there was some online resource where you could look up the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of arimadex. Gee, wouldn't that be great.

>>41085363
If you're just two weeks in you shouldn't be feeling anything. Wait another two weeks.

>>41085363
I got some energy after 2 weeks but strenght and libido kicked in after 6 weeks.

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>>41085358
One day you will. She wanted to see the cherry blossoms but apparently the festival just ended the other week.

I know I always post lovey shit when I talk about her but I honestly hope you brehs can find a girl this great. She's so down to earth and chill it's amazing and she's just a fantastic person, becomes friends with basically everyone she talks to.

Are there any roids that don't cause acne and balding?

Is arimidex safe to take? Anyone ever had any acute bad reactions to it?

>>41085467

OK, but to the point of my question has anyone on trt here ordered more test online to supplement their intake. I specifically want to hear how the experience was and how much of test is a comfortable amount to cruise on. Bear in mind I'm already on an ai

>>41085358
should I bother with the better materials for dakis or is 2 way tricot a meme

hobbyheart is awesome though ty bb

>>41085613
You can supplement TRT with test from online, a fair number of people do that. It might be a good idea to use test p rather than e or c, so you can drop back down to the levels you're supposed to be at if you need to get tested.

>>41085690

Could you elaborate on using proprianate? Do you mean that as in I should take my regular dose of C and supplement with an additional dose of P and when it comes time to test by blood cut off the P completely or do you mean cruise solely on P and switch to C in advance ofr the bloodtest?

>>41074003
>Read the reddit wiki.
no thanks

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>>41085563
>friends with basically everyone she talks to
friends with benefits I bet
fuckin roasties

>>41085363
Ive added more around trt
just stop your blast like 2 weeks out and no long esters (orals are your friend)

>>41085674
peachskin is fine for me
lasted forever so far too

>>41084852
I got 100x10mg sdrol so I might pick up tren. I don't go until August so I still got time, only thing ive never don't tren before

>>41085736
Take test cyp exactly as your doc tells you. Take extra test prop to get to the levels you want to be at, so that if you have to get your levels tested you can drop the test prop and be at the levels you should be. If you're on 150mg a week and you come back with results off the top of the range you'll be dropped down to 100 or 75mg.

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>>41085849
>friends with benefits I bet
Nah she just has a great personality that comes across as accepting I guess and she's pretty reserved in terms of flaunting her sexuality and body even though she's not fat or anything, just insecure I guess. Something I'll try to work on with her but she's never really had a boyfriend that cared about bettering her as well as themselves. I don't want to force her into becoming something she's not rather just improving her.

Wew 5'2" and 110. Less than half my weight, wew.

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>>41085990

Thank you fraud senpai

>>41085860
youll blow up but really watch your bp and lipids lol

Really that blast is probably overkill so you could drop the tren, let the sdrol do the work, but you would get big (with eating and lifting)

So you should blow it out
to get me her number

>>41086038
improve her into being my gf

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Do raws vendors exist inside us, bros?

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>>41086069
>improve her into being my gf
SHES OFF THE MARKET JERRY.

>>41086121
No one ever is "off the market". Naive. You've just got to make yourself as high value as possible for the individual in question.

>>41077112
should be kicking in anytime now bud.

>>41086069
How bad of an idea would it to be to run my sdrol 20mg ed for 25 days as a kick starter and then 20mg ed for the last 25 days of the blast leading up to my trip. I have ran adrol before at 75mg ed with only 500mg of tudca ed for 21 days with out any negative effects.

>>41086121
until she hears Im interested

>>41086179
that would probably be fine
thats alot of tudca for adrol though

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>>41086141
I know holmes, I was just fucking around with him esè.

>>41086189
>until she hears Im interested
Undoubtedly. But really you should be able to find a well grounded awesome girl too, it's not like you live in a small city or don't have a decent career.

She's pretty liberal so I don't know if you'd be into her in that regard either.

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>>41086237
"real" women dont exist for me, theyve never looked at me even
azusa is the most real woman in my world by far

>She's pretty liberal

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>>41086268
>never looked at me even
I'm not buying that, I find it hard to believe that you're that ugly.

>filename
No. No black dudes.

>>41086189
I was told about 100mg of tudca per 10mg of adrol but I even kept it under that.

Now all I need to do is book my session with diabloart aki for my azusa pin up tat and my trip to japland is complete

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>>41086268

>"real" women dont exist

>>41086300
He's not, just horribly insecure and jaded.

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>>41086300
its true
its because im so obviously superior though
think you could look god in the eyes?

>no blacks
>he believes her when she says this

>>41086327
adrol is soooo healthy comparatively
like you can drink on it
like every day
its so goat

>>41086327
you keep her off yourself
Azusa is mine