/fat/ - Fatty General

>>40702189
Former fatfuck here. Quit soda and drink only water, coffee and tea. Worked extremely well for me.

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>losing weight
>lost 22kg+ already
>looking at fatter people makes me really fucking sick
>physically feel like puking

What the fuck, bros?

>>40702253
first time?

I've been from 180 to 260 to 150 to 310 to 200 up to now

>>40702253
Because it's a reminder of how you used to be. You changed, but they haven't. And their willingness to remain fat rightfully makes your stomach turn.

Who /IF+keto+calorie deficit/ mustard race here?

literally cheat mode when it comes to losing weight. I'm like 1000 calories below today and I don't feel hungry at all. Cutting carbs and eating twice a day is literally the best decision I've made.

oh and no alcohol

>>40702259
fuck mate, your body must be a mess

>>40702259
First time actually losing weight? Yes.
First time I tried? No.

And my diet is completely reeducated now to the point where junk food, soda, pastry, sweet dishes are not even appealing to me anymore.

You should try to completely reeducate yourself, make it a lifestyle.

>>40702189
Please help;
I am always hungry. I eat shit in large quantities and it obviously had effects on me.
>5'11, 270 lbs
I used to be around 220 for 6 years, but I played football (american) and that kept weight off. I don't drink pop, juice, or coffee. I have night class from 6:30 to 9:30, so I find myself getting hungry as fuck afterwards.

Any tips for filling foods that I can switch my diet to? I'm not poor, so money is not an issue. I do cardio during the summer when I'm home (I love riding my bike) but the workout facility at school is shite.

>>40702363
well it's going well this time
try 1 was keto and starvation
try 2 was amphetamines
this time it's just counting calories

>>40702296
it's a bit battered, my biggest issue is psoriasis though
I've just never had a reason to give a shit about myself because it's all in vain
but fuck it, I don't want to die fat

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>>40702189
What's you're day looking like /fat/?

>>40702413
had a granola bar for breakfast and just had a bowl of red pepper and wensleydale soup
it was nice

>>40702413
100 calories of coughdrops

>>40702413
600 calorie day, making my deficit 1100 cals

>be fat all my life
>get treated like shit by everyone
>mental health issues
>get a psychologist and ends up helping a lot

So now that I am mentally stable I have noticed that girls seem to like my fat ass. Friends have told me it is because unlike many fats, I am a good looking fat. Either way I want to exploit my genetics for pussy, I'm thinking SS for 6 months then a 5 day routine afterwards. Dietary wise, just following whats in the sticky.
Just wanted to brag about my superior genetics that will come to full force in 6 months time

As a fatso whos only doing bodyweight exercises should I take rest days at all if my shit don't hurt?

>>40702575
I only take rest days if I feel like resting that day, really.

>>40702575
what exercises are you doing? do you find them effective?

>>40702593
Pushups
BW Squats & Lunges
Assisted pullups & chinups
Pike pushups
Inverted Rows
Planks

I find them effective in the sense that I see progress in how many of them I can do now so I feel i'm getting stronger

>>40702578
That's what I want to do too but I haven't had any DOMS for a while and I don't want to overwork my muscles just because I don't feel doms even though I feel like I can work that shit everyday now to some degree

fuck me I wnaat to start cutting but I dont want to look like a weak beta cuck, I like being big and looking big in a tshirt but my hips are getting wider and im getting one of those chins.. help me

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>h-hey fatanon, want to come over and see a movie with me? I a-already ordered some pizzas and have a tub of ice cream in the freezer :3

>>40702747
shoo

>>40702747
shoo shoo gains goblin

started at 275 after thanksgiving, currently 238, still fat but no longer dead on the inside

>>40702747
sorry, my fellow obese autists on a mongolian duck hunting forum warned me about the vaginal jew

I did today 1.30h cycling in average speed 24 km/h burned about 1305 calories according to:
http://www.bicycling.com/training/weight-loss/cycling-calories-burned-calculator

Is this true?

Why is it that when the general population thinks of "obese people" they always think of massive landwhales who can barely walk on their own? Seems like dangerous mindset to be honest. You really don't have to be THAT overweight or look that fat to be considered obese.

38 jeans is usually obese, yet 36 jeans is the standard for America.

I think feeding the ideas that these mammoths who are a step above even MORBID obesity are what the standard "obese" people look like is a dangerous mindset to be in because it makes people think that as long as they're not THAT big, it's okay to be an unhealthy weight.

>>40702924
literally anything over 200 is considered obese unless you're 6'7 or taller

>>40702997
Underage b&

but in all seriousness, good luck you fat fuck.

>>40702997
Yes you are on the right track. The only way to get good at squatting is to squat, so keep squatting.

>>40702899
I would look for other sources, personally I doubt that and think it's a bit high considering 1:30 of running is apparently less calories burned, but then again at 24km/h you never know.

>>40703032
Won't be long until I'm 18. Also, I'm on my phone at the moment and I'm not seeing any 18+ notice.

>>40702413
those ground beef stats seem way off for 112g

>>40702997
>Weighed 400+ pounds at my heaviest
>Over the course of a year lost down to 320ish pounds
>Stagnate there for several years eventually going back up to 345lbs
>Decide to get my ass in gear after working through some bad depression and I'm down to 310 now
Soda and getting over my hunger was the hardest part.

>>40703096
>not seeing any 18+ notice
It's on the front page of 4chan. Good thing you're on your phone, you'll probably be banned, just don't mention you're under 18 when you post again on your desktop. Still, don't give in, keep coming back and watching yourself improve. Just keep in mind at the end of your journey you'll need spare skin surgery and one that's happened you CANNOT put the weight back on without horrible, horrible consequences, so make sure you diet and stick to it and never give up.

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Post those meals, fatties
who else /IKEAmasterrace/ here?

>>40703186
is IKEA stupid cheap or something?

>>40703229
The bowls and cutlery and shit? Yes.

This seems like a retarded question but /fit/ and the sticky seem kind of contradictory on this subject. How much does a daily calorie intake matter compared to a weekly one? Say somebody is on a cut with a weekly goal of 2000cals per day, so 14000kcal for the week. If they eat 1.5kcal every weekday and 3.25kcal saturday and sunday. does this really count as a cut?

>>40702968
People don't want to consider the fact they are fucking stupid and completely physically inept to boot

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>>40703262
>Not eating from the saucepan
Never gonna make it bro

One reason why I want to lose weight is to stop the scratching of my belt buckle to the muffin top under my belly button.

>>40704208
>tuna, tomato, onion, boiled eggs
>saucepan
Don't fall for the saucepan semite, it goes hand in hand with the olive oil jew

>>40704240
>tfw have a scar from this
f-fuck

>>40704130
Yeah, that's fine. Whatever gets you through it. Just make sure you weigh yourself every morning cause if you only do it after the weekend it will be higher than your average.

>>40704130
It's calories in vs calories out. Overtime you will still lose weight because you're losing a lot more fat on those weekdays than you're gaining on the weekend.

However, I'll tell you that's a poor strategy, you should aim for maintainable daily stuff. Don't change your eating habits on any specific day, it will just ruin your progress.

use to lift a lot, let go of it. knew that i was getting less fit but it didn't sink in until yesterday

>be at planned parenthood for a routine std test
>8/10 hipster thottie nurse
>"time for the weigh in anon"
>245
fuckme.jpg

>>40704515
kek
I had to weigh in recently as part of a DVT screening
was the same practice nurse as 6 months ago
she didn't say anything

>>40704548
oh god what was the weight change

>>40703186
>eating eggs
>trying to lose weight
Pick one.

>>40702286
keto implies no alcohol, shit's carbs yo

But ye, I run IF+keto+calorie deficit

I'm such a fatass fatty but I legit have to force myself to eat, this combo just murders appetite

>>40704602
40kg, give or take

>>40702369
Drink more water.

Also lentils.

Eat spicier. Hot peppers are low cal and make your stomach go "Ehhh on second thought I'm not that hungry".

>>40704649
increase or decrease?

>>40702747
get ye gone, feeder fem

>>40704635
100cal per egg and great macros. Also very filling. What's the problem? Sure, it isn't Greek yoghurt level of macros or carrot level of fullness/calorie, but 2 in the morning is a good breakfast.
Plus with all that onion and tomato it's great flavouring

>>40702968

what? i started at 205 and by 190ish my BMI was "normal"

6'

>>40704671
decrease
to be fair, I'm still very fat
but I'm not type 3 obese any more

>>40704684
People who eat more eggs tend to be fatter. You can lose weight eating big macs, but it won't be easy.

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>>40703165
>CANNOT put the weight back on without horrible, horrible consequences
a-and what consequences might those be?

>>40704707
wow congrats! even if she didn't say anything it must've been a good feeling.

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>>40702413
Pretty good here, had to snack because I went to the gym and my gf isn't home until 7h30 and I was getting hungry. I still have plenty of calories left for some oven baked sweet potato fries and a home-made big mac. Also weighted myself today, broke 260 and am at 258.

Good snacks are hard to come by, I wanted to buy some post work-out 38g protein yogurt shake only to be met with a nice 400 cals on the label. Had to settle with a mini sack of shitty cheese. Wasn't even good and had 160 cals and ins. fat. I'm caught in a blizzard so just sipping some black coffee to pass the time while reading you guys.

>>40704719
Imagine a condom filed with water to the size of a balloon. Now cut out a condom sized cut from that and stitch it together with horrible scarring. Now try fill THAT to the size of a balloon.
Your skin will only stretch so far, and when they cut all the loose skin off, what's left is still going to be stretched and thin, so to stretch it further will leave you looking like a burn victim.

>>40702649
I thought the same thing when I was at dat dere peak performance 35% bodyfat. When I started cutting I was convinced that I had lost all my gains

Then as I started getting leaner (headed for 10%, at roughly 20% bodyfat now) and the definition of my muscles started to peak out from underneath the fat I realized that I was actually LARGER than I thought I was (so much shit I thought was just fat was actually hard muscle)

If you're actually big getting lean will just make you look bigger. Temporarily you'll deflate because you'll probably have to cut carbs to lower calories, so you'll have less glycogen and water making your muscles swell up, but you can get that volume back in like, an afternoon of carbing up.

Remember that ottermode is what most girls consider ripped, so getting leaner is almost always a strict improvement

>>40704734
I've learned not to get complacent
I'd really like for this to be the last time I have to lose weight
good luck to you friend

>>40704712
People who breathe American air tend to be fatter, doesn't mean much. If I stay under my calorie goals and it fits my macros I really don't see why eggs are a bad choice.

>>40702525
I've said it before, and I hold this to be true because I get more pussy than my muscular and skinny friends:

It's not the fat body that is disgusting, it's the fat mentality. Always tired, always complaining, giving up before starting, insecure but yet loud at the same time, never finishing what you start, etc. As long as you aren't a blob, you should be fine for qt gfs.

You guys don't understand that yes, girls are harsher when it comes to judging bodies, but physique is less important to them than it is to us. Isn't the dad bod popular? The mom bod, not so much.

>>40704707
>40kg decrease

my nigga

we're all gonna make it

>>40702632
Add weights to your exercices.

That way you can stay at same volume and progress.

>>40704758
yikes
Well, that's yet another reason to make sure this sticks. Thanks anon.

>>40702899
Never substract calories burned.

You're fat, you've got reserves...and it's too easy to say that you earned the right to eat a whole pizza because you cycled 1h30. Also no, it's not accurate at all.

>>40702968
My total lean mass is 204 lbs, fuck my life.

>>40703063
>running is apparently less calories burned, but then again at 24km/h you never know.

Cycling is considerably more energy efficient than running so I'm doubtful too that the same time spent running would spend less calories. Especially for a fatty, getting to sit down and pedal versus having to support their weight while running should result in overwhelmingly more calories spent per minute in running. But for the same reason that same fatty probably couldn't actually run for 90 minutes straight.

Cycling is a pretty knee-friendly cardio activity so I think it's probably pretty good for those at 250lbs or more.

>>40704765
>>40704734

Nurse won't say anything until you reach healthy weight, but she's proud of your progress. They are trained to not make you feel adequate while still overweight.

>>40704893
Of course, that's why I said I doubted it. Running should always burn more calories than cycling, but if the running is slow and the cycling is crazy fast, I suppose it can get close.
t. fatty jogger

>>40704953
I wasn't really fishing for compliments, but it would have been nice to have some acknowledgement.
My family never said anything when I put on the weight, or when I lost a chunk of it.
I know they don't have ill intentions, but I need to know it has some kind of gravity.

My next milestone is actually a BMI of 24.9. About 10lbs to go.
But I won't stop there, this gut has GOT to go.

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>>40703186

r8

Hello! How's everyone doing? So far I've gone from 308lbs to 244lbs just with calorie counting and jogging more or less every day. I'm still losing weight at this stage, although now I'm showing muscle on my legs but not upper body - I know upper body fat is usually stored in the stomach and is the first and last place to get it, can anyone recommend any exercises to build upper body muscle that won't require me going to a gym?

>>40704994
you are literally me 3 months ago
keep going, it gets even better

>>40704989
Post macros and calories in that, senpai

>>40704981
Nurses must keep a professional poker face at all times. They might not want to make any comments that could possible be taken the wrong way even if it seems ostensibly positive. After all, praising someone for losing weight also expresses the opinion that being fat is bad.

>>40705033

I dont know, I do alternate day fasting so it doesnt really matter.

It was wildboar bolognese sauce I made myself, slow cooked for 8 hours.

>>40705034
being fat is certifiably bad
I can't respect any medical practitioner whom disagrees with that

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Fat fuk here, been lifting for almost 2 months now and just started adding cardio every day just 30 min. Weight isn't going down but body fat seems to be changing like crazy is this normal because I'm tired of being 330lbs. Eating 2k cal a day weighing everything btw

Is it true that my test levels will crash if I'm getting less than 50g of fat a day? Manlet TDEE is absolute suffering.

>>40705065

What is your TDEE?

>>40705048
Looks damn tasty, should have made the pasta yourself too for that iron pilled lifestyle. Still, alternate day fasting and not counting calories sounds a bit uncertain, how's it gone for you?

>>40705063
2 months and your weight isn't going down but your BF is changing?

That seems a bit odd for you to sustain 330 but drop BF while eating 2000 kcal.

What're you drinking, boi?

>>40702201
I wholey believe this is the first step to successfully losing weight. If you can have enough self control to ignore that very peristent urge for soda (Some of us more addicted than others) then you can stick to the gym, and stick to a good diet overall.

I switched to water (i used fruit to flavor it for a few days until I was used to it) and i've only drank water and homebrewed tea (I mostly mix it with my protein shakes which is yummy)

>>40705063
>phone camera filename
That had better not be you with that qt, you fat fuck

In answer to your question, if it's been two months and no weight change from 330 pounds there is most definitely something wrong, you should be losing way more weight than any possible muscle gain and water retention. Eat less, move more, and either double check your calorie intake or go to a hospital. Hint: it's your calorie intake

>>40705075
Scooby's calculator has it at 2071, so I've been aiming for around 1500 calories a day. I alternate lifting and light cardio (slow 5k) every day, if that matters.

>>40705077

Well it was obviously not on the fasting day of course, on the fasting day I dont eat more than 600 calories.

Studies have shown that you dont eat more than 120% on your feast day of what your normal intake was that means you are still in negative kaloric intake.

I do couch to 5k and Phraks Greyskull LP, while alternate day fasting, all started on the 6. of this month.

Lost 2.9 KG so far.

Only diet that works for me

>>40705115

You should definetely get enough fat because otherwise you will harm your hormone production

>>40702369
Drink more water and eat more protein and less carbs and sugar. Try bringing a protein shake to your class or if you're allowed, a healthy snack to tie you over (Celery, apple slices, or a serving of pretzel sticks all go well with peanutbutter or almond butter.

What does your normal diet look like?

We're in week 2 of this general, surely someone has come up with a better word than "fatanon"

>>40702413
I woke up late so mine's empty right now. Gonna have some mini egg omelets I made sunday with some fruit and yogurt for my breakfast meal though, then work on cleaning up. Lunch is either a salad or a homemade instant-ramen (I can tell you how to make these if interested), i gotta check what's for dinner tonight to see what i'll have (some dinners are higher calorie than others so I adjust my lunches according to that).

I do meal prep so it makes it super easy to eat well.

>>40702479
600 calories isn't enough for even a 5'1 female dude, you need to eat more or you're going to plateau quick or start binging.

>>40705129
My macros are 40% protein / 35% carbs / 25% fat, is that acceptable? That sits me at 56g of fat a day.

>>40705050
They absolutely do believe that but they won't say it out loud except when giving official medical advice related to a patient's treatment, I think.
Otherwise someone might argue that they're being made to feel bad by the comments that aren't related to the treatment at hand and sue them. Doctors and nurses get sued over the smallest things by angry patients and family all the time so I believe they are pretty over-careful about what they say.

>>40702525
This is true and it's not even looks it is personality which helps you look not as gross (I mean ever see a hot chick who ends up looking at least 20% uglier because she's unnecessarily bitchy or does something unfathomably stupid?)

It's why so many fitizens don't know how to talk to girls still even when they're absolute studs. Personality DOES matter and if you don't have one, you might as well stick to tindr quickies.

>>40705174

How did you calculate these numbers?

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>>40705174
Whoops, meant to say 42g of fat.
>>40705203
MFP.

>>40702575
I only do one rest day myself and that's mostly because it's meal prep day (So I'm on my feet for 3-5 hours cooking for the whole week). It also comes the day after my zumba class which is the most intense cardio session I have of the week (I do everything else at home) and the girl who runs it adds weights and tons of squats and core moves. I couldn't walk all day after last saturday but I hit 8,000 steps just in that one hour class. (Even with me needing to adjust some moves to be lower impact. I can't jump, i have fallen arches that i'm doing exercises to fix but it's going to take time. So instead of exacerbating it with jumping, some of the moves I march in place, very high knees. As long as you're still moving it's okay to adjust it to work for you (That's the great thing about dancing for cardio is as long as you're getting the rhythm right you're going to still have an intense workout. just don't be a complete lazy shit and just stop moving if there's a move you don't want to do or can't figure out.).

Sometimes I can't follow the foot moves, especially later in the class when the instructor still has all of her energy and everyone else is dying, so I just make up my own as long as it matches the beat she's following and can transition into the next steps she sets.

What keeps me going is knowing one day I'll be able to follow the dance, jumps included. It's just gonna take time and the more weight I lose, the easier on my feet it's gonna be.


I'm mostly just posting this so people trying zumba for cardio will feel a little more confident doing it since it can be hard to jump into (zumba is pretty intense dance fitness compared to usual dance fitness classes which are way easier to do steps.)

>>40704772
Eggs are high in cholesterol and saturated fats which cause atherosclerosis and heart disease. But I'm sure you're not at risk for heart disease given your weight.

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>>40704644
>first day of keto
>favourite beer brand suddenlly 80% off per sixpack

FUG

>>40705247
>zumba
>fitbit
>can't jump
We know you're a woman, but out of curiosity how tall are you and how much do you weigh?

>>40705289

>LARPing as it was 2006

>>40705289
>le dietary cholesterol is real cholesterol
>2 eggs are literally so dangerous it's worth calling someone out for eating them
I love this meme

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>>40705289

>watching people eat cheeseburgers
>sad because I quit eating beef
>oh wait turkey burgers exist

everything will be alright.

>>40705402
>quit eating beef
¿for what pvrpose?

>>40705402

Why did you quit?

>>40705402
>>40705419

Lent. But I also want to get my good cholesterol up so my doctor suggested I stop eating red meat for a while and exercise more.

>>40702369
Eat fiber. Whole fruit, veggies, beans, nuts. Easy to pack. Cheaper than meat. Make you feel amazing.
Stop eating 20%+ protein diet like most tard western diets. Read The China Study.

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Threadly reminder /fat/, you're all gonna make it brah's.

Former morbidlyobesefuck here, I weighed in at 242lbs, and now I'm down to 139lbs. Need to shed a little more before I'm happy, but I'm getting there. I'm 20 and 5'10 for anyone who gives a shit.

Also wanna ask; What does /fat/ think of purging and fasting? Both worked very well for me, and I'm a firm believer that as long as you control yourself and don't cave under the temptation to binge eat, it can be one of the most useful weightloss techniques.

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>>40702413
>Tfw not letting your mom gains-goblin you

>>40705438
I think I've come to prefer turkey burgers. Or at least the ones they serve at my uni dining hall

>>40702525
Just bulking up getting ready fot /FIT/

>>40705448
>bulimic girl in /fat/
I hope you brush your teeth a lot

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>>40705509
>Girl
Some nice implication arrows you got there Anon. Not a grill.

Also - I brush my teeth constantly. If you're going to do something like purging, you have to dedicate a lot of time to oral hygiene, or else you'll end up with crack-addict teeth.

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>>40705113
I found after a while you don't even miss it. Do I like the taste of coke, root beer and orange soda? Yeah, but I can live without it because there's better shit and it's full of HFCS.

And if you miss soda that much look into pic related.

>>40705383
>>40705354
>Recent recommendations that limits to dietary cholesterol be dropped were probably heavily influenced by propaganda from the egg industry. After conviction for false advertising, the industry has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to convince the public, physicians, and policy makers that dietary cholesterol and egg yolk are harmless. However, there are good reasons for longstanding recommendations that dietary cholesterol be limited to <200 mg/ day in persons at risk of vascular disease. It is seldom understood that this essentially means all people in developed countries who expect to attain an advanced age. There is abundant evidence that dietary cholesterol increases cardiovascular risk. The misdirection of the egg industry focuses on fasting levels of LDL cholesterol, which are only raised by ~ 10% by consumption of egg yolks. However, the main effect of diet is on the post-prandial state: for ~ 4 hours after a high fat/high cholesterol meal, there is oxidative stress, endothelial dysfunction, and arterial inflammation. One large (65 g) egg yolk contains 237 mg of cholesterol, well above the recommended limit—nearly as much as a 12-ounce hamburger. Besides the very high cholesterol content of egg yolk, the phosphatidylcholine in egg yolk leads, via action of the intestinal microbiome, to production of trimethylamine n-oxide (TMAO), which causes atherosclerosis in animal models. Levels of TMAO in the top quartile after a test dose of two egg yolks were associated with a 2.5-fold increase in the 3-year risk of stroke, death, or myocardial infarction among patients referred for coronary angiography. Persons at risk of cardiovascular disease should limit their intake of cholesterol and egg yolk.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5290910/

>>40705566
What about shit like Pepsi Max/Zero Sugar, sugar-free cordials etc? They're zero calorie but I never see people mention them in threads like this as an alternative to soda.

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>tdee is apparently like 2800
>anons itt going on 1200 kcal diets
Is this because I'm 18, or what?

>>40705628
You know what? Memes aside, you've convinced me. I'll take out the yolks from now on and just do the whites. The yolks taste shit anyway, thanks.

>>40705289
haha yeah and keto makes you fat right

>>40705441
Yes because chinks are so naturally muscle bound

>>40705556
>5'10
>139lbs

Time to start dat dere lean bulk senpai

>>40705448
It's a waste of good food, control yourself retard.

>>40705734
Probably depressed metabolisms. Most people don't know about reverse dieting, so they end their cut, jump back up to bulking (or even just maintenance) calories, and gain all the weight back because their actual TDEE is lowered because they've been on restricted calories for so long

My TDEE is 2800 too, but I know my actual metabolism is somewhere down at 2200 because I'm eating 1700 right now and I'm losing a pound a week like I'm in a 500cal deficit

>told how to lose weight
>refuses to take any advice seriously
>instead needs a support group on /fit/ to post about how difficult being an in relenting fatass is

Just because you feel guilty being on /fit/ because you're a fat fuck that likes the memes doesn't mean you need to make a thread to justify your disgusting fatness.

>>40705833
Thanks, I guess I'll shoot for 2300 for a week and see what happens.

>>40705556
Don't scrape your enamel off after its daily acid bath. I hope you're seeing a doctor and dentist for regular checkups

>>40705734
I'm a short grill so my tdee is like 1700

Any /fat/bros on a keto diet?

I barely sweat while working out now and I get thirsty a lot despite drinking 3L of water daily.

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>>40705782
You reckon? As soon as now? I might have to check the stickie on this board. Bit of a newfag to /fit/, I mainly hang around /o/ and /co/. If you have any tips, appreciate em.
>>40705828
Back when I was first losing weight, I used it as an incentive to control myself. The attitude I had was "If you don't overeat, and you fast properly, you won't have to purge"

I eventually got to the point of fasting most of the time and purging on my days when I ate over 700 calories.

Caused me damage short term, but pretty happy that I'm no longer out of breath when walking up stairs.
>>40705989
T-thanks senpai. I'm actually doing OK, don't daily purge anymore, but I used to. I see a dentist and doctor on the regular however. Teeth are fine, and my body is healthy for the most part. Just not happy with how it looks.

>>40706235
>700 calories

Auchwitz mode looks worse than fat mode

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>>40702413
Not bad as I though. This will trigger everyone

>>40705743
Though they probably don't cause heart disease, egg whites are extremely high in methionine, the overconsumption of which can facilitate cancer growth: https://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000084000000000000000.html

Here are some videos on eggs, though they focus on egg yolks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPulhmNEDs&list=PL5TLzNi5fYd9lgvt0-8Oi9BIQ-jO2PBD3&index=6

I personally don't eat eggs at all. They benefits (basically they're cheap) don't outweigh the negatives for me. I switched from eating two eggs for breakfast to a bowl of oatmeal which lowers cholesterol. Oatmeal is pretty cheap too.

>>40706727
But isn't cholesterol not as a big deal with the cardiovascular system and more for the releasing of hormones

>>40706784
The fact that he even mentioned cholesterol in a conversation about eggs proves you shouldn't listen to him at all.

>>40706784
Cholesterol in your blood is directly related to the plaque in your arteries. You want your LDL to be between 50 to 70.

>There is a positive linear relation between LDL cholesterol and annual changes in plaque size, with an LDL value of 75 mg/dL predicting, on average, no plaque progression.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14623804

Some scientists consider the relation to dietary (eaten) cholesterol to not directly affect your blood cholesterol levels. Many studies show there is a link:

>Serum cholesterol concentration is clearly increased by added dietary cholesterol.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/55/6/1060

There are other concerns surrounding dietary cholesterol too:

>The strong association between cholesterol intake and cirrhosis or liver cancer is potentially our study's most important finding.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hep.22941/full

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2016/01/06/ajcn.115.119933
This study from 2016 showed eating even one egg a week increased the odds of Type 2 Diabetes by 76% compared to <1 egg a week.

And if you are wondering why so many people jump in to say I'm wrong, it's because people love hearing good news about their bad habits. If I told you eating butter, red meat, and eggs was actually okay and there's no risk of getting diabetes or heart disease from it, wouldn't you love to hear that? Wouldn't you want it to be true and even try to prove it to yourself?

>Atherosclerosis is easily produced experimentally in herbivores (monkeys, rabbits) by giving them diets containing large quantities of cholesterol (egg yolks) or saturated fat (animal fat). Indeed, atherosclerosis is one of the easiest diseases to produce experimentally
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603726/

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>>40702413
pretty good for a couple of weeks but i went to a party today, i autistically logged what i ate on my phone and added it to mfp when i got home


Hard to imagine i'd normally have all of this + 8-10 beers, i like to think this is a step in the right direction even tho i wont lose any weight for this day

>>40706076
i barely sweat too but my problem is that i'm not thirsty at all during the day, i have to force a liter of water every few hours down my piehole since i started doing keto

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Fuck i was doing fine and tonight i fucked up and lost control. still living with parents because money and they keep buying shit food and i finally gave in now i just feel pissed at myself

>>40707188

Don't let this throw you off. Something that used to happen to me is that I'd think "well I've fucked up now may as well eat more" that's the worst thing you could do. 1500 over isn't enough for even 1lb of fat gain.

Tomorrow is a new day, just get back to it and try and keep to your calorie goals.

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Down 150 lbs so far. Rate my gyno and stretch marks

I'm at 1,150 calories today and I feel stuffed and don't want to eat anymore. Most days are like this. Am I fucked?

>>40707506
forgot to mention, I'm 5'10", ~240 and male

>>40707361

Doesnt look like gyno, just fat

I think if you bulk hard you can get them tattooed over

>>40707317
Thanks man, good luck to you too

5'11" king of manlets, eating 1500 calories, 180g protein, the rest of calories an even mix of fat and carb.

I don't know what to do at this point. i started a diet, it's the first that's really stuck, I'm just doing a high protein thing, 500 calorie deficit. I lost 5 pounds, down to 200 real quick, less than a month. Now I've been stuck at 200 for like six weeks, going up or down maybe a pound a week, always returning. It's driving me insane.

I've done all sorts of things to break it. I've tried intermittent fasting. One day I ate literally nothing, I somehow gained .4 pounds in defiance of the laws of physics. I've tried adding cardio. Nothing is working.

what's the secret to breaking the plateau? why am I plateauing only 1 month in?

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I'm 6"2 and 297 pounds with a 42 inch waist and can't do more than 5 pushups in a row without having to do drop pushups.if I continue my daily routine of 70 kettlbell swings 70 squats with the same 50 pound kettlebell and 100 arm curls each with a 25 pound dumbbell.i also have stoped eating after 8 pm and before 10am while primarily eating grilled chicken everyday and a protein shake.I began yesterday and I lost 2 pounds...will I ever make it?

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My meme machine comes in tomorrow,
Im pumped

Did pic related plus 9 this morning

>>40707906
>making it
>meme routine

No. Get a real lifting routine and stick to it.

>probably overate today

hhnnnggg mother's cooking is too good I'm a fucking retard ;___;

>>40707361
Gyno 0/10 try harder faggot

Stretch marks: ehh, 3/10 best I can do. Yours are mostly settled now and not red, so I had to dock some points. Beef up to 400 lbs and you could gain some serious points in this category.

>>40707948
wats a meme machine

>fuzzy blue shit I can't read

Great photo retard.

>>40706727
oatmeal is made from grains that can easily cause gluten intolerance leading to bloating. I'd stick to just tomatoes and some salt for breakfast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mMpE8AaA0
Not even once

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>>40702413
Eh, not too bad.
2nd week of doing fast 5 IF, down 3kgs which i'm guessing mostly just water weight.

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> 3rd week of calorie counting
> losing weight accurately as my TDEE calculator suggested

why do I feel guilty everytime I eat food even though it's "HEALTHY".

> 1200 calories a day
> feels guilty at 900calories

>>40707188
Lmao me too anon, me too. Just to try hard everyday and not let affect ya too much. Use that self hatred

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> mfw poorfag
> cheapest meal has 600 calories $3
> healthy alternative is $5
> justendmylife.png

>>40708638
but anon you can buy a hed of letus for under 1 doleroonie

>>40708638
Potatoes, pasta, brown rice, oatmeal, chickpeas, lentils, tofu, kidney beans. All super cheap. Stop being a faggot. A box of spaghetti for $1 contains 1,621 calories alone.

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So I planned out to drink tomorrow. I did the math and stuff so I should be below 2000 cals for the day.

Here to you Guys and here hoping. We are all going to make it.

>>40708138
How shit are ypur eyes faggot that you can read a still picture?
Lmao

>>40708492

>120 kcals a day

literally how?

>>40709169
> 1200 calories
> allocate calories through out the day
> 300 for bfast, 400 lunch, 300 or less for dinner, 200 for snackaroos

Stuffing myself with half a cup of brown rice and roasted honey glazed ham or sliced chicken for meals and fruits for snacks.
When I crave for something salty, I just skip dinner and eat chips because I can still be within my calorie limit :3

> 176.6lbs from 186lbs, 5'5 manlet

Is it true that losing weight makes your dick bigger?

I heard a rumor that it grows one inch for every 15 pounds you lose, but that sounds ludacris. At that rate my cock will be like eight or nine inches long by the time I'm done cutting.

>>40709303
No that's retarded

Just shove a ruler above your cock down to your bone and you got yourself your size if you lost all possible weight

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>>40709303
I think so. I feel like my dick was a bit bigger when I was fit.

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What are good ways to motivate yourself? Everyday i promise myself that i will go running in the morning only to stay in bed for another 2 hours until i deem it 'to late' to go running. Please if you will give some help to a /b/rother

>>40709384
Tried running before. But it always felt like a chore. Only workout that is currently working for me is cycling.

>>40709384
Running sucks, try cycling or lifting.

Other than that, look at pictures of hot chicks and fit dudes, then look at yourself in the mirror.

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>lose a kg/week for 7 weeks in a row
>step on scale today +1,5kg
>haven't changed a thing, actually ate less calories than last week
why do you do this to me body, i have been eating well you fucker.

>>40709428
its just probably shit and piss. come back tomorrow morning and weigh again

>>40709428
Your metabolism seems like it's adjusting, that's normal. That and/or water can throw things off. Just count your calories and be consistent.

>>40709402
>>40709416
Thanks, i will try it

>>40709447
No problem. Don't give up, you're gonna make it.

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>>40708678
>carbs

>>40702189
This might not be the right thread, but fuck it

I've been losing weight recently, about 2 pounds a week. Due to my family structure, i.e. they're all overweight or borderline obese, it was hard for me to manage it but I did. They've all noticed and keep asking me how. I always tell them the basics, eat better, eat less, exercise, etc but none of them will actually do it. Meanwhile they call me skinny just because I took some control of my life. What can I do to convince them do just do it? I'm concerned for them and it makes me angry that they won't try.

>>40708492
are you me? that's my exact situation

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>>40709626
Basically the same situation as mine.
They keep mocking me about my "silly" weight loss technique. I can tell they obviously see the improvements, but they continue to mock me and call me """mr. fitness expert"""

>>40709655
Since I saw I was getting good results, I'm also getting really picky and conscious on what I eat. Only way I can escape the guilt is for me to skip dinner and feel hungry before going to sleep.

>>40708144
>tomatoes

Didnt you know tomatoes grow on the pesticide ridden fields, pretty sure some scientists correlated eating tomatoes with increased chance of getting cancer.
Just go with salt, anon.

>>40708638
>le "healthy" food meme

just count calories, you fat dingaling

the first step is to eat less of the shitty food you're eating now

>>40709675
EXACTLY. it pisses me off because I want them to follow my lead and improve themselves

>>40709711
>salt
>destroying your veins like that
look, even air is a risk but anything more than that is just asking to die

>>40709675
>>40709626
Have you tried having a serious conversation with them about it? I'd introduce them to myfitnesspal and just tell them to record what they eat for a week, like a game, so they can see how much they actually eat.

>>40709823
I have had serious conversations with them about it, but I will try to introduce them to myfitnesspal. I could see that working out, thank you.

>>40705556
>not a grill
>Marina pepe
so you're just gay as fuck then

>>40705162
>600 calories isn't enough
I used to have anorexia and lived of far less. 600 cals is no problem for me. Actually, it feels like a luxury compared to some other regimes I've had. Lived off 200 cals a day for two months in 2015 for example. One can of tuna, and a can of tomatoes a day. Worked out fine.
Doing a 500 cal day today. Lean protein and coffee, plus some fish oil tablets. My abs will show by April.

>>40709998
>doing the christian bale meme diet
annie, please

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What's today's workout, /fat/?

>>40710047
just walked 3km to deli and back, anon. got myself some lean chicken slices

>>40702189
at 220 pounds 6'0", what exercises do you guys recommend to lose belly and thigh fat?

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>>40708847

good job planning ahead!
some more things that help me.
don't forget alcohol free stuff has even less cals. alcohol itself is relatively high in calories with 7 calories per gram, second only to fat, which provides 9 calories of energy per gram.
i have found a alc free wheat beer i like a lot with only 25cal/100ml which is ok.

white wine or champagne is better than other wines as long they are not too sweet.
if you still want to get drunk then pick gin, rum, vodka, whisky, tequila, brandy or cognac they all come in at around 60-70 calories, get them on the rocks as the ice is 0 instead some sugar mix/soda.

also prepare a meal for later when you come home! i big part for me is to avoid the drunken feeding frenzy / way home kebab. i also carry a small sack so i can avoid finger food. homemade turkey jerky is my choice.

>>40710092
Read the sticky

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>>40709303
well it is kind of true. fat has areas that it goes in primarily "problem zones" like butt, gutt but some part gets distributed uniformly like a 1 cm layer over your whole body. even bad areas that make no sense like fatty fingers that can barely grab anything. so your dick loses a few cm as its now a bit more hidden. so if you lose the fat layer you can see more. Beside that the better circulation of blood might help it swell up, also any dick will look smaller on a bigger body.

pic related imagine your dong need to go through 5 cm of your fat before it can see the sunlight

>>40710008

>>40710101
My plan is to get a bottle of vodka, measure out 12 oz and lock the rest way. Plan of mixing it with some 0 cal flavored water.

I planned all my meals around it some I can still be below cals and eat some good meals.

>>40710374
Vodka, soda water and lime is generally the best way to hide the taste for 0 extra cals, but if flavored water if what floats your boat then power to ya

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SW: 337
CW: 302
GW: 180

So fucking excited to leave the 300 club.

>>40710431
milestones are good, they keep your spirits up

>>40710405
Better than the soda I use to mix with.

Heavy drinking and mixing with soda is how I got fat.

>>40710431
>tfw stuck trying to leave the 200 club
LET ME OUT REEEEEEEEEE

>>40710459
Saaaame anon :( still got 30 pounds to go

>>40710447
same here tons of liquid cals, snack and fast food while in the city, and late night pizzas to "sober up" comfort food in the morning to fight hangover. no fucking surprise i gained weight.

>>40708638
>cheapest meal has 600 calories $3
buy two rump roasts and rice for a week of food under 30
you'll have spare rice so future weeks you'll only need 20.

3 dollars a day
keys loser

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>>40702899
Any calculator based on speed alone will be inaccurate. You'd need something based on heart rate or energy output.

>>40708847
>hoping
kill yourself

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>have eaten mcdonalds after dinner every couple of days since January
>put on 10 kgs
I don't even like the taste.

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>>40709543
>being such a fat fuck that you have reduced insulin sensitivity or being so retarded you think keto actually helps you lose more fat than just counting calories

k m8

>>40710566
at least mcdonalds clearly shows the calorie contents of their menu

chalk it up, adjust accordingly

>>40710575
hey, even if it's 100% psychological, if it helps then what's the harm?

>>40710566
fuck you shitbag

I am 350lbs from 420lbs. Stop eating so much and go to the gym you faggots. Otherwise just kill yourself to speed up the inevitable. Fuck, I hate fat people with all my heart.

>>40709428
Random variance, measuring only weekly leads to wrong conclusions often. Measure daily and look at weekly averages.

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>inb4 healthy egg meme was fake and I die

>>40710459
tfw 210 is my goal so I won't have to break this milestone.

>>40710575
tfw no more insulin sensitivity.

tfw have to gauge myself with people around me

>>40710047
Lay on the couch for two hours browsing 4chan trying to push it back. Finally did it an went for my run but holy shit I wish I browsed this place less, I waste whole days here.

>>40705155
faton

>do squats
>legs hurt for days

leg day meme is real

>>40710895
Go lower. If you use your tendons' elastic energy to go back up you won't have doms.

>>40710900
The muscles store elastic energy too. It's more so the muscles than your tendons that provide the bounce out of the hole.

>>40710900
>use your muscles less to minimise soreness

well... you're not wrong

>>40710740
>goal of 210
what are you, 7 foot?

>>40710956
6'4

>>40702189
lol nice fat D.A.K meme

>>40702189
Went for an 1 hour morning jog, 6-7 hours later had my gym session, going to jog for another hour with a friend 6-7 hours after that in the evening.

Is this useless and too much for one day?

>>40711092
If you're trying to lose weight? No, not at all, it's 3 times more effective. Unless you're destroying your joints, then the more exercise, the faster you'll see progress.

>>40711092
It's only useless if it burns you out or are destroying your joints.

>>40711121
Losing weight yeah, not that much overweight, tho (180 cm, 90-95 kg). I'm not intending to do it every day but just wondering if some other ppl here have experiences about training like that.

I just had a cheese and chicken panini instead of my 500 kcal joylent. Am I fucked? Can I just miss my evening meal and recover? My daily goal is 1750 kcal already had 600 kcal today.

When I started with 115kg/254lb with second stage of obesity according to bmi, it was really easy to lose 2-3kg per week, but now, when I'm 183lb and my bmi is within normal standart, I struggle to lose weight despite calorie deficit, though I still have to lose 25lb to become skinny(now I look like skinnyfat). Decided to try IF this week, also trying to make 10k steps a day from the beginning.
One of biggest obstacles is my parent's concern about it, they always say they just don't want me to become anorexic, and thats why they try to feed me more than I need(ofc both are fat). It's so difficult to cut calories when there's always shitton of food in the house.

>>40711302
Had the same problem. What solved it was not putting the food of the house into my mouth.

>>40705063
Tell your cousin I said hi

>"wow, your legs are ridiculously muscley now"

No thank you. I just want skinny legs pls. How can I lose muscle on my legs? Just increase cardio and stop weights for a while?

>>40711418
>. I just want skinny legs pls.
fuck you

>>40711418
>>mfw I was showing a video of myself working out to my physical therapist QT gf to comment on my form and she comments that she always liked how my legs looked athletic and well defined even when I was morbidly obese.

Th-thanks Rippetoe

>>40711312
Elaborate.
I tell my mum to not buy junk food because it's not good for anybody in the house and i am addicted to it.
She buys it anyway with the excuse that what if we have guests but it's for her.

I know my triggers are stress or that i am tired and sometimes i don't have the willpower to say no.
What do guys?

>>40711289
>daily goal 1750
>already eaten x
>x < 1750
How are you fucked, what a dumb question. Just eat less for the day

>>40711302
Exercise is the best way to remove the hard bit at the end, whether it's lifting or intense cardio. Steps probably aren't going to cut it.

>>40711788
>I tell my mum
m8

>>40711788

I had read something before, about how your brain has very limited "Good decisions" per week, and that taking good decisions get exhausting.

Like, you work on your diet all week only to get drunk on friday, eat a pizza, etc. You act on impulse because you ran out of "good decisions". You also begin to make easy decisions based on habit.

The reason you start monday fresh with good decisions is because you are relaxed and revigorated. Hobbies instead of work, and sleep instead of waking up early.


So instead of eating when you're stressed or tired, why don't you sleep? More gains, and more ability to make smart decisions.

Tell yourself that after dinner, nothing is allowed but maybe a scoop after work-out. Why would you need food and energy during the night? So you don't feel weak and sleepy...while sleeping?

Also buy your own food. Maybe your parents will see you are serious and feel bad about you spending your own money on food. Maybe the junk will diminish but don't count on it.

Have a journal. Write down days you felt proud about progress, and how you felt.

Write down days you cheated on your diet, and how you felt.

Next time you're hungry for shit food,take a tall glass of cold water and go read your journal.

>>40705703
They're not inherently bad, but they keep you hooked to those sweet cravings and stop your palate from adjusting to healthier food. If you want to drink them, use them as a treat when you otherwise would have gone after something worse, like ice cream. Don't use them as your primary or even secondary beverage.

I just had my thyroid checked and I got TSH close to the upper range (4 uIU/ml) and really low T4 (14 pmol/l). I know I can't blame my thyroid for being fat, but are there any ways to make it more cooperative?

WIll taking iodine in the form of kelp tablets help lower my TSH and increase T4? I also feel cold all the time and have little energy, so maybe kelp would be the way to go?

>>40711871
>I had read something before, about how your brain has very limited "Good decisions" per week

Yea, ego depletion. A major meta-analysis from 2010 was argued to be flawed in a newer meta-analysis from 2015. The ruckus reached its peak last year when a large sample size replication effort found absolutely nothing. The ego depletion theory is considered to be false now. There is probably no limit to willpower.

The field of psychology is in deep shit, you can hardly trust published results atm as a layman. Absolutely ignore any news stories about cool new psych studies as they're even more likely to be hyped up and inaccurate.

>>40711871
Solid Advice. Thx m8.
We are going to make it guys.

>>40712042
>no limit to willpower
Ahhh kamina!! My animu hasn't been a total waste

>>40712042
Yeah I wanted to add that it was most likely bullshit, but I found the advice to go sleep before making a stupid decision to be sound.

Are these macro goals good for weight loss? Seems kinda hard to keep a tab on because fucking everything has carbs, pic related is after a breakfast of plain instant oats and one egg.

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>>40712204
Forgot pic, fat got to my brain.

>>40712215
have you calculated your lean mass?

40% protons is what I need

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>me weighing at just under 20st (280lbs) 6"2ft tall at the end of 2015
>depressed
>half way through 2016 start to get told by my dad to lose weight and do shit
>me "okay"
>start off with push ups from the knee and sit ups every morning
>change my diet, only consuming water instead of juices, tea etc.
>start feeling good
>Start going out with friends skating in the summer
>drop weight every week by a ton
>July 2016, I weigh in at 262lbs
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>notice I get looked at more
>start to progress losing weight
>gym, and running to do whatever I can to lose weight
>few months down the line i'm sat here with still a bit of body fat on me but feeling lighter weighing in at 218lbs (99kg)

And I'm still determined to lose and lose till I hit my 85kg goal.

p.s I can't wait for summer.

>>40702286
>>40704644
Yes
My appetite fucking died on keto

>>40712225
I haven't, how do I go about that? Is that just 100 minus bf%?

>>40712274
yeh

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>>40712347
Sorry if the sticky says something about this, but how many grams of protein should I be getting per pound of lean mass, and how can I determine percentages from there?

>>40710900
This is probably the stupidest thing I've seen on here this week.
This is why dyel shouldn't give advice.

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>>40712391
the meme is 1gram per 1lbs lean
some people recommend only .7gram

I try for one gram or more

just calculate the grams and then set the percentages in the nutrition section to read the number you've calculated

>>40712434
Thanks bruv

>>40712452
yeh m8

>>40702189
The army keeps telling me that I'm between 20-23% bodyfat.

The /fit/ info-graphics tell me I'm like 30%.

What do?

>>40712434
One more question, what site is that? I couldn't find a calculator like that in site in the OP.

>>40712542
My Fitness Pal

theres an app and an WWW they look slightly different, I took a screenshot of the www

>>40712542
Is s my fitness pal. Chronometer is great too.
This thread has so many new people it's crazy. Did you read the sticky yet dude?

>>40712578
>>40712581
I'm using the MyFitnessPal app right now but I was looking for a graph like that, didn't know there was a website which is why I was confused. Yes, I did read the sticky, the question about protein was just me being too lazy to go read it again I suppose.

>>40712434
>>40712391
1 g is definitely meme territory for bulk muscle gain. If you are bulking (gaining weight) and gaining muscle, you want to shoot for 0.65-0.75g of protein per lb of bodyweight.

If you are losing weight, you only need around 0.4g of protein per lb of ideal bodyweight.

Protein source is also very important.

>High animal protein intake was positively associated with cardiovascular mortality and high plant protein intake was inversely associated with all-cause and cardiovascular mortality, especially among individuals with at least 1 lifestyle risk factor. Substitution of plant protein for animal protein, especially that from processed red meat, was associated with lower mortality, suggesting the importance of protein source.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27479196

Beans, lentils, tofu, seeds, nuts, and grains are all good sources. They also lower your cholesterol, lower your blood pressure, and protect you from getting heart disease or diabetes.

>>40712641
Please stop shilling vegan non sense. Literally no one here cares dude.

why the fuck is my post being considered spam you shit eating faggot?

>>40712718
NOW it fucking works

>>40712679
What is vegan nonsense about cutting red and processed meats from your diet exactly?

>>40712641
but don't eat only plant proteins as they are so called "incomplete protein" they don't have all of the 9 main ones. a mix of Meat, poultry, fish, eggs, and dairy and veggies is good.

also that study nice to shill vegan stuff but has little real life application the differences are just far far to small. the limitation are clear if you read the whole thing for example:

> "These associations were confined to participants with at least 1 unhealthy lifestyle factor based on smoking, heavy alcohol intake, overweight or obesity, and physical inactivity, but not evident among those without any of these risk factors."

>>40712488
Doesn't the army use some super simple formula based on bmi and neck circumference or something like that? Even calipers' estimates are +-5%, which is about as good as eyeballing it. I think only DEXA scans give good accuracy if accuracy is what you need for whatever reason.

Am a small grill (5'3"), train 5 days a week (weights three times HIIT cardio twice) and eat like a bird (1.2k cal a day, but don't necessarily pay a lot of attention to macros/where those calories come from). Stuck around 130lb when my ideal is closer to 115-120lb.

How to lose that last stubborn 10lb of flab? Where do I go from here?

>>40712805
>they don't have all of the 9 main ones.
That's actually a myth, but let me clarify. All plants contain all amino acids, but in different proportions. You will get all the amino acids from any plant, but not always in the proportion you need. As long as you are eating a varied diet this won't matter. For protein powders, either get a protein from a plant you rarely eat, or get a blend like TrueNutrition's plant blends.

Soybeans and quinoa are the exception. They contain a complete set of amino acids (like all other plants) and they are in proper proportion. And again, as long as you aren't eating rice, only rice, and literally only rice, you won't have a problem getting amino acids from plants. I don't think there's ever been a case of someone deficient in a single amino acid on a vegan diet aside from absorption or genetic issues.

>the limitation are clear if you read the whole thing for example

Red meats are found in other studies to be associated with CVD. The association is pretty well documented.

>>40712873
>>40712873
>Stuck around 130lb
how long have you been stuck?

where did you start cutting from? 170lbs?
you may need to adjust your Calorie limit,

also track macros so you know you're less likely to lose muscle.

being thin means nothing aesthetically.

having the correct BF% and muscle ratio is what it is all about.

>>40712943
> how long have you been stuck?

A pretty long time now, maybe close to a year?

> starting weight

About 145lb, have had to replace all of my pants, so my measurements have gone down drastically since then also, not just the number on the scale.

> adjust cals

As far as the limit goes, I'm already operating on a very low intake and going lower is feasible, but it's sort of a last resort. You can't diet down forever.

> macros

I already track calories and weigh my food and all of that, when you say macros do you mainly mean protein?

> bodyfat ratio

I would have to measure myself and calculate, but I know it's higher than it should be/what I want it to be.

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Alright lads, my TDEE calculation is saying 3387 but I've been trying to keep my calories below 2000.
Am I being an idiot for trying to cut that far below it?

>>40713045
Did you calculate at sedentary?
I'd aim for 2000 at the lowest till you drop more weight.

>>40713045
1,400ish below your recommended seems pretty drastic, but I'm not sure.

I'm with >>40713054.

>>40713011
>do you mainly mean protein
yes because that's one of the 3 sources of calories.

protein fat and carbs

to track protein and stay under your tdee you have to limit carbs and fats.


>A pretty long time now, maybe close to a year?
holy fuck what was your average weight loss per week before that?

>>40713045
No. Always make sure you're selecting the "0 exercise" option, they assume "light exercise" is an hour a day of cardio so always put TDEEs crazy high. As long as you're 1500> it's fine.

I have developed sleep apnea apparently from being a lard ass. Has any other former or current fat ass here dealt with this? I have heard sleep apnea is largely reversible by losing weight. Is this true?

>>40713067
>>40713011
also, how old are you?

>>40713075
Yes it's extremely true. Less weight on your organs is a huge help.

>>40713075
I snored really loudly when I was 300+
been told it's gone completely now

>>40713117
>>40713117
>>40713117
>>40713117
NEW THREAD

man this general is getting fast

>>40713121
>>40713104
thanks
i don't snore
i just stop breathing
shit sucks

>>40713011
145 lb? You're a fucking skellymode in the /fat/ thread wtf

>girl

Oh...

>>40712873
You do weightlifting 3x a week and cardio 2x a week on a 1200 cal diet? I don't fucking think so.

You're not measuring your caloric intake right, and you're probably still eating shitty foods. You may even be starving yourself which would stop you from losing weight.

Here's Freelee who eats around 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day. She exercises a shit ton though. All whole plant-based foods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMSMe-vn6bQ

>>40713067
>>40713079
> limit carbs and fats

My diet at the moment is very carb-heavy and this is probably where I'm going wrong.

> loss per week

I'm not completely sure because I fluctuated a lot and it was stop and start, all I can say is it was slow going. Lost 8kg/18lb over a long period of time, regained slightly and now I'm where I'm at.

Want to get smaller still, just trying to figure out what I can tweak because dropping down to 1k cal or less for a long period is just begging for metabolic damage and I'm already working out 5 times a week and don't think I can increase gym time.

So my options are scrutinizing my diet or changing my workout plan. For my weights routine I did starting strength for the longest time but some of my /fit/ friends made me change to greyskull recently (only been doing this for a few weeks, getting used to it).

> age

24, and I work in an office during the day so gym time is basically my only active time, I'm sitting all day otherwise.

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>>40713054
>>40713061
>>40713068
Thanks for the advice guys.
I'm 6ft, just under 400lbs and in my late 20's.
Super excited for all the skin surgery I'm gonna have to endure...
Ah well. I've only got myself (and my coddling parents) to blame for the sorry state I'm in.

>>40713147
>I'm 6ft, just under 400lb
Okay yeah your TDEE is really high. I'd actually stick to 2000-2500 calories assuming you're actually counting correctly and not cheating.
Lift ASAP even if it's lightweight. Will help you not look like a freak after shedding weight+surgery.

>>40713139
> You do weightlifting 3x a week and cardio 2x a week on a 1200 cal diet? I don't fucking think so.

Ye, I mentioned in the other post that I recently started greyskull. It sucks.

> probably still eating shitty foods

Things like white rice and noodles and bread, yeah. There are a lot of simple carbs in there. I don't eat fast food or drink soda. There is room for improvement.

I'm amazed at the video you linked desu. Wish I had that shape.

>>40713172
Freelee has a youtube channel. Check some of her videos on her diet and exercise plan. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwUd5KtYONsRJ3UAOojZ0w

>>40713045
Remember that those calculations are very inaccurate. You'll get a better estimate from your own observations.

>>40713144
Track your macros try to get .7 to 1gram of protons per 1lbs of body fat.

always try to increase your lifts so you don't become a skinny fat and develop an eating disorder to try to "lose that last little bit of pudge" which is really caused by a bad muscle/fat ratio.

you're pretty close to a healthy weight now.

>>40713203
Thank you, I don't know why I haven't heard of her before.

Then again, I'm not really a regular here, I mostly drop in to look at fat hate threads to keep myself motivated.

>>40713221
Thank you, I'm sure you're right. It hasn't been long enough for me to know for sure but on my program the lift progression has been slow/gradual.

> develop an eating disorder to try to "lose that last little bit of pudge"

I have definitely been there before, I didn't think it was tied to the muscle/fat ratio. I feel like I understand better now.

>>40702747
ok , but im keto can i have a bowl of eggs ?

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>>40713240
>>40713240
>I have definitely been there before
yeah so did she hopefully she's getting better though.

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>>40713261

>>40713240
Keep in mind that woman exercises a TON. You can't mimic her calorie intake.

Do you exercise at a gym?

>>40713287
Yeah, no way, especially since I'm sedentary at all other times. Good for her though.

Yes, I go to a gym. It used to be totally mandatory since when I started, I relied heavily on the machines, but now I'm confident with free weights.

But I still like the whole artifice of going to the gym and having a variety of equipment there if I wanted to use it, and having that escape from my housemates. So I don't think I will move to a home setup.

Anons I'm in a dilema regarding loose skin.

So far the only place I have "rolls" of skin is in my ass and I'm ok with that. But when I'm sitting down there are some on my belly even though it's ok when I'm standing up or lying down.

At the moment I'm sitting at 16-18% body fat. Will this get any worse if I lose more bf? Should I slow down or stop my weight loss for some time to allow my skin to shrink?

Also, today was the day I officially lost 30kgs. I should be feeling great but I'm kind of sick.

I just want to give a small piece of advice to people who are eating very low kcal to lose weight.

I am 5ft and lost 66lbs and I always eat around 1600 to 2000kcal. It is pretty high in kcal but I am still losing weight because I do a lot of weight lfiting and fitness.Sometimes I read here that people start with eating 1200kcal but I have to be honest, with my 5ft frame I would be starving. You didn't get fat because you ate above those 1200kcal but because you ate thousands of kcals worth of junkfood. I recommend people who want to lose a lot of weight to eat a bit more than 1200kcal. It is much better for your body but also mental. I tired a 1400kcal cut but I only got a lot of binges, I eat around 2000kcal now and I am losing weight (I do eat a lot of veggies, protein from fish and chicken, nuts, eggs etcetera) without feeling starved and without restrictions. Losing weight will be easier this way and better for long term goals. Just start with 2000kcal, if you don't notice weight loss, decrease it little by little but never just start eating 1200kcal.

Another great piece of advice is doing HIIT (if your knees can handle it, I am not sure if very obese people can do this) on the threadmill at least once every two days (I used to do it five times a week). Especially in combination with weightlifting. The combination of HIIT and weightlifting will make you drop A LOT OF FAT but because you do wieghtlifting you will not lose a lot of muscle, you will gain a lot of muscle while losing fat. The best part of HIIT is you see immediate results after one week even. It is just that good. It is a lot more effective than 60 minutes of crosstrainer.

What I do is:
20 min of HIIT on the threadmill
5 minutes cooling down
So 25 minutes in total.
YOU WILL DIE IN THESE 25 MINUTES. You will burn more kcal than 60 minutes on the fucking crosstainer.

1/2

>>40713117
>>40713117
>>40713117

there is a new thread post there REEEEE

2/2

>>40713386
What you have to do is:
Walk slowly for 30 seconds. Lets say on lv 3 but depends on your threadmill.
Run VERY FAST for 1 minute. And set the lv on 8 or 9 or just as high as you can without giving up.

NO INCLINE but you can do that if you have done HIIT for a while and need a new challenge

Anyway repeat this pattern:

Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
REPEAT

After 25 minutes you will be tired, dead, sweating and have burned a lot of kcal, plus you will continue burning kcal after going home too.

This is a very good fat burner, I saw immediate results and once I added weightlifting to my schedule I was mind blown, this combination is amazing and I suggest everyone to do this.

>>40713428
fug woman, you're cute.

>>40710619
i weight myself twice a week also i'm not drawing any conclusions from it, i just wish it wouldn't fluctuate.