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'A single egg ever will literally kill you' edition.

Morbidly dead thread: >>40702189

Who is /fat/ for? Fat members of /fit/ who want to learn how to eat right, lift weights, and lose fat. Here we ask others for advice and give moral support to one another. We all know how hard it first is and we all have to get through it to better ourselves. At the end of the day this is a support general whose goal is to help and motivate the chubby channers who need it.

>THE STICKY (READ IT AGAIN)
>>17018018
>Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
>Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) and eat 500 calories or less than it daily to steadily lose weight
https://tdeecalculator.net/
>Plan your weight loss week by week
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
>Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal, works best on smartphones
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/
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>>40713079
>>40713067
RESPOND
>>40713011
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It's been two weeks of /fat/. What progress have you made in that time, anon?
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>>40713178
two weeks worth
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>>40713127
Sorry, I am idiot and responded in the old thread.
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>5'10 228lbs
>hydrostatic bf% test
>24%
FUCK I'VE LOST 80LBS AND STILL FUCKING 24%

At least I'm just ''overweight'' now instead of clinically obese. I hope getting to 200lbs puts me at 20%.

Can I eat at maintenance when I hit 200 and change my body composition to still lose bodyfat by lifting and conditioning?
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>>40713178
In a week I've gone down like six pounds just with lowering intake. I assume it's mostly water weight.
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>>40713216
>>40713144
yeah so did I ya dumb idiot.

Track your macros try to get .7 to 1gram of protons per 1lbs of body fat.

always try to increase your lifts so you don't become a skinny fat and develop an eating disorder to try to "lose that last little bit of pudge" which is really caused by a bad muscle/fat ratio.

you're pretty close to a healthy weight now.
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>>40713229
No, that's false. If you've actually lowered intake, that is not water weight you've lost. If you meant dropping 1 lbs salt a week by lowering intake, then yes, that probably was water weight.
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I deadlift 80kg today
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>>40713218
You could, but it would be much, much better, especially at 5'10, to go way lower than 200lbs and 20%. Get to 12-13%, show off your new body and maintain there for a month or two, then when things start to normalise, begin babby's first bulk.
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>>40713295
>Get to 12-13%
Man that'd be like 160-180lbs. Haven't weighed that much since middle school.
>minimum 9 more months of cutting
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>>40713178
Lost 3 lbs. Eating at 2k cal a day when maintainence says 3.2k (which I think is bs)
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>>40713178
Honestly, the biggest change this general has made for me was getting serious about counting calories and *actually* not cheating. It helps talking to other cutters here and comparing progress.
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>>40713386
Hope anon sees this from the old/dead thread, if you do:

When you do 20 min of HIIT, what intervals are you working by?

I ask because I do 10 minutes of moderate intensity, and then for the last 10 minutes I do 30 second efforts with 30 second rest periods.
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>>40713267
I assumed water weight, because that's a really fast.
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1/2

Reposting from old thread because it was literaly the last post before this new thread started:

I just want to give a small piece of advice to people who are eating very low kcal to lose weight.

I am 5ft and lost 66lbs and I always eat around 1600 to 2000kcal. It is pretty high in kcal but I am still losing weight because I do a lot of weight lfiting and fitness.Sometimes I read here that people start with eating 1200kcal but I have to be honest, with my 5ft frame I would be starving. You didn't get fat because you ate above those 1200kcal but because you ate thousands of kcals worth of junkfood. I recommend people who want to lose a lot of weight to eat a bit more than 1200kcal. It is much better for your body but also mental. I tired a 1400kcal cut but I only got a lot of binges, I eat around 2000kcal now and I am losing weight (I do eat a lot of veggies, protein from fish and chicken, nuts, eggs etcetera) without feeling starved and without restrictions. Losing weight will be easier this way and better for long term goals. Just start with 2000kcal, if you don't notice weight loss, decrease it little by little but never just start eating 1200kcal.
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>>40713449
2/2

Another great piece of advice is doing HIIT (if your knees can handle it, I am not sure if very obese people can do this) on the threadmill at least once every two days (I used to do it five times a week). Especially in combination with weightlifting. The combination of HIIT and weightlifting will make you drop A LOT OF FAT but because you do wieghtlifting you will not lose a lot of muscle, you will gain a lot of muscle while losing fat. The best part of HIIT is you see immediate results after one week even. It is just that good. It is a lot more effective than 60 minutes of crosstrainer.

What I do is:
20 min of HIIT on the threadmill
5 minutes cooling down
So 25 minutes in total.
YOU WILL DIE IN THESE 25 MINUTES. You will burn more kcal than 60 minutes on the fucking crosstainer.

What you have to do is:
Walk slowly for 30 seconds. Lets say on lv 3 but depends on your threadmill.
Run VERY FAST for 1 minute. And set the lv on 8 or 9 or just as high as you can without giving up.

NO INCLINE but you can do that if you have done HIIT for a while and need a new challenge

Anyway repeat this pattern:

Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
Walk 30 sec
Run 1 minute
REPEAT

After 25 minutes you will be tired, dead, sweating and have burned a lot of kcal, plus you will continue burning kcal after going home too.

This is a very good fat burner, I saw immediate results and once I added weightlifting to my schedule I was mind blown, this combination is amazing and I suggest everyone to do this.
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>>40713465
Beginners should start slowly though.

First time: run 30 sec, walk 45 - 60 seconds
But try to make your running time longer and walking time shorter from then on.
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>>40713437
Hi there, I am still hre and reading. I posted the answer to your question here:
>>40713465
>>40713492
Hope it helps!
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>>40713465
> walk 30 sec, run 1 minute

Yep this would kill me. At least I know what to do if my current HIIT proves too easy.

I hate HIIT because it's impossible to walk away from it without feeling a little bit sick, but I can vouch for its effectiveness. I feel more awake and like my body temperature is higher for hours afterward too.
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>treadmills
>HIIT
why not just actually run? Even if you're brand new to it and can only run a few kilometres, just running as far as you can and then running even further is a better way to burn cals
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>>40713178
Went from 266 to 259 :)
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>>40713588
Motherfucker, have you seen the North-East of America at the moment? That's why I don't run outside.
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>>40713665
get on my level m8

260 to 237
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>>40713705
Nice water weight anon
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>>40713716
nah m8 I've been doing this longer than /fat/ has existed.
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>sleep apnea gone
>Chub rub gone
>Can jog for 5 mins straight (holy shit I can't believe I ever couldn't without seeing a huge red flag)

Work has me on a program, I already knew all the info, but an online scale for weight and tracking all food really helped keep me on track and pinpoint my big downfall.
3 days sober and counting, the longer I keep it up the more my weight chart becomes a downward slope instead of looking like a Richter scale
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When losing weight, why does it seem like I'll lose three or four pounds and then over the course of the next week or two it'll creep higher and higher? Been counting calories and eating really well and somehow managed to gain five pounds this week. It's infuriating.
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Do i look freaking obese? i have been trying losing weight for a week bothing
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>>40713705
He asked for the last 2 weeks :(
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>>40714095
yeh m8 but I'm retarded and can't read.
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the mods are asleep, post your dinners
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>>40713117
Obligatory
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>>40714090
>Do i look freaking obese?
you ARE obese
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>>40714000
Either too much water or you're not counting correctly/cheating. But weight can fluctuate quite a lot, especially if you're a fatty.

One day I'll be 222lbs and 2 days later I'm 228lbs.

What matters is you continue to go down in the long run. I should see numbers between 219 and 225 in a few weeks.
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>>40713117
Started out at 295 last June at 6'2"
>just lifted weights, rode bicycle everywhere, and cut out fast food and sugary drinks
>got to 255 by October like dis
>stalled from October to December. No weight loss, no GAINZZ
Start coming to 4Chan again after years hiatus. Decided to stay tF away from /b/ and lurked here. Read sticky
>download MFP and track calories starting 12/19/16
>have dropped down to 228
>bought new shirts size L which haven't worn in almost 20 years (am 30 years oldfag)
Gonna cut down to 220, clean bulk 5 pounds (missin' those gainz) then cut down to 200.
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>>40714234
>Gonna cut down to 220, clean bulk 5 pounds (missin' those gainz) then cut down to 200.
1o1 bulking @ 220
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redpill me on calorie cycling
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>>40714601
retarded broscience that only works because it also incorporates a caloric deficit

Without incorporating lifestyle changes, chances are you gain it all back.
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>>40714587
>clean bulking 5 pounds

I just miss strength gains. Get off my shit.
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>probably 20% bf skinnyfatfuck
>168 lbs 5'8"
>All of my lifts seem to have stalled while doing le reddit ppl
>All 3x5 aside from 1x5 diddly
>OHP: 115
>Bench: 155
>Squat: 225
>Deadlift: 295, on a good day I have done 315 1x5.
>Still look like complete dog shit garbage instead of only somewhat garbage. Doesn't even look like I lift at all.

REALLY hoping I look somewhat fit when I hit 150 lbs.
Dropping from 1900 cals a day to 1600 - 1700 in hopes that it will speed up the weigh loss process without losing too much of what little lean mass I have.
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>Been at it for 8 weeks
>Down 16lbs
>Dropped a whole pant size
It's not much, but it's encouraging the watch the number go down and seeing the difference in the inches I've lost.
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>>40713178
I've lost 6 lbs but I started in January. So 35 altogether
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I started last week. Not really doing anything but making sure I get enough protein and eating around 1500cal a day. Down 8 pounds.

Currently 5'10" and 311 lbs.
Severe gyno that will for sure require surgery.

I'll post pics when I actually have some visible progress.
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>>40714684
just keep strength training at that bw cutting to 150 at your height will just hurt gains in the long run desu
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>>40714687
>>40714834
Great job lads, keep it up

>>40714894
Post pics now, you can post the progress ones later on and it'll be more impressive, but posting how you are now will give you the motivation to change that for the future.
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>>40713465
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Hi fatties. I went from 6'4 392lbs to 194lbs (sitting at 200lbsnow)

Gradually try to make these new habits a lifestyle if you wanna keep it off. Lift heavy weights and build muscle so your skin has something to attach to later on.

We're all gonna make it
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>>40715134
show flying squirrel bod
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>>40715134
How much time it take to build that body?
Great job tho!!
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>>40715134

great work! do you have problems with excess skin, though?
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>too busy watching Geert crash and burn to shitpost in /fat/
anybody else experiencing this feel?
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>>40715874
I feel that feel Anon
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Is there some magical food or drink that'll prevent loose skib/wrinkles? Like green tea, or bell peppers or some other shit?

Do those skin firming and exfoliating creams work?
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>>40716080
elastin wears out the older you get
no way to replenish it
how big are you, and how long have you been that way?
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>>40716113
I'm within 11 pounds of not being obese for the first time since freshman year of high school, and I'm 20. I'm starting to get wrinkles at the bottom and top of my biceps, and wrinkles on the sides of my ass. I'm lifting 3x/wk now and doing cardio everyday, but I'm way weaker than I was in HS playing football at 340/350 and I'm worried I don't have enough muscle to prevent more sagging.
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>>40716153
* and I didn't lift for a solid 2 years, and spent my first 30lb just doing cardio and zero lifting. Also, I am losing 2-4lb/wk and I'm not sure if that's too fast or not because I was under the impression fatties could lose weight faster than the recommended rate.
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>>40716153
If you can get down to 180-190 within the next year, with your lifting you might not have loose skin at the very end, you're young and it does tighten up.

Yes you can lose 2-4lbs per week and it's fine
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>>40716164
Fatties can sure, but you're almost out of the obese range (270 lbs for you). You should consider slowing down a bit to a more normal pace.
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My TDEE is 2760 due to being 5'10" and 225 ish pounds. Before calculating this I decided to eat 1800 or less calories a day, which puts me at nearly a 1k deficit. Should I change that in any way? I go to the gym about 3 or 4 times a week doing full body exercise and 30 minutes of cardio.
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>>40716390
1700-1800 sounds good. Log your weight every few days or once a week and adjust according to your progress.
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>>40713218
>5'10
>228
>not clinically obese

still got about 30 pounds to go, friendo. You're still obese.
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>>40714090
Yes you look obese. The people on "My 600lb Life" are not obese, they're not even morbidly obese, they're multiple levels beyond either of them they're so obese. But America has made us think that they're the golden standard for obesity and that if you don't look like them you're not obese.

But too bad, if you're 40+ pounds overweight you're obese.
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>>40713218
Yeah, you're not 24% bf. More like 28-32. Your BMI is 32.7. Below 24% bf is considered no longer obese.
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>>40716474
>America has made us think that they're the golden standard for obesity and that if you don't look like them you're not obese.
Very true.
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>>40716488
Hydrostatic body fat testing my friend. It's fairly accurate.
Put me at 24.6%. I've been lifting awhile though.
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>>40713178
Since the beginning of the month, I've lost 10lbs
Still have 60lb to go, baby!ᵔᴥᵔ
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>>40716948
Trap bodies hear we come!
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>>40716488
>BMI
>Valid at all for someone lifting
>Valid at all
Lmao guidelines at best but it's outdated as fuck
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It's so weird how much self confidence losing weight will get you, even if you just lose a bit of weight.

I went from 250 to 230 and even though I'm still a B I G B O I and have a long way to go, I'm comfortable with my shirt off and shit. Which is funny because I lost weight 5 years ago from 210 to 170 and I thought I was disgusting at 210.
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>>40717215
>tfw will probably never be comfortable with my shirt off because I have the most ridiculously puffy nipples
I can't even wear a polo without feeling shitty all day.
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Got my squat to 100kg, diddly to 140kg, bench to 70kg but ohp to only 45kg. And the only difference is that i weigh 119kg now and my shoulders and traps look bigger. I just want to be shredded.
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>>40717387
Keep going nigger. Those are rookie numbers, but you'll get there.
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>>40717139
phew, thought I was the only one with that goal
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how important are macros in the grand scheme of things?

I'm hitting calorie limits every day, easily
but the stuff I'm eating is swill
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want to go on heavy cut (1500 a day) with exercise

how do I max my ability to exercise without feeling shit and min my muscle loss?
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>>40718004
Protein is paramount, the others not so much. Alcohol is very important in that you should drink none or at least extremely little.

>>40718007
You don't be a little bitch and slack off with workouts. Working out while cutting won't have serious side effects, the side effects are from NOT working out
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>>40713178
lost 3kg
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>>40718049
great to hear
would be fucking grim to lose the muscle I got from dragging this meat prison around
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>>40718113
It's probably not as much muscle as you think, unless you've been working out.

Just don't be disappointed when you lose all that weight to find out you're weak as fuck
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>>40718177
fair, I dont have much
is this why they say cut before lifiting properly?
so you dont have to worry too much about losses in muscle and just get results quick
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>>40714185
this has been my one meal a day for last 3 days
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>>40718216
You should cut and lift properly, just don't expect a lot of progress. Your muscles will still grow a little if they've never really been tested, but more importantly your body will keep what little muscle you have so you don't turn into a skeleton. If you want to lose a lot of weight in a reasonably quick time, however, you maY lose quite a bit of muscle. So yeah, if you want to lose 50 to a 100 pounds before shaping your body, a bulk to gain muscle is pretty counter intuitive
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>>40718007

IF combined with keto. I eat 2 meals a day, one at 1pm and the other around 7:30pm. 800 calories each.

I'm 6'9, 355. Never hungry. Never feel like slacking off during a workout.

2 weeks ago I was eating 7000 kcal a day with nearly 800g of carbs a day. I feel so much better now.
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>>40713218
I got bad news anon...
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>>40716080
aparantley fasting can get your body to burn its own protein and it uses excess tissues first like skin not being used
you need to fast for like a week though and several times
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>>40713178
>grandmother that raised me funeral a couple weeks ago
>week before that she was at my/her/moms house knowing she was gonna die
>slept over for that week to help along with deal with hospice nurses
>gave her her last bites of yogurt that she could stomach before she was on that morphine
>died a bit from that
>incredibly stressful, every distant family member coming by to say their peace
>random family drama coming out of the woodwork as expected
>actual burial and funeral just leaving me numb or in near tears
>not keeping track of gym/eating
>people bring by food of course
>or take me and mom out to eat feeling bad for us
>finally now it's slowed down to some sense of normal
>oh shit it's been a month since I've really used fitness pal or looked at calories and I've gone to the gym once per week maybe
>weigh self
>lost 2 pounds
>huh

so idk it's been alright I guess

Time to get back at it. It kinda all re-inspired me. I saw her at 92 and I wanna reach that age but better. I know I'll die some day but I'd like to be more mobile than her in her last months. I'm also gonna have it explicitly written "NO DNR, FUCK SURGERY PAST 80, LET ME JUST DRINK A BOTTLE EVERY DAY AFTER 91 AND DIE FROM MY LIVER CAUSE FUCK DYING FROM HEART OR LUNG FAILURE" in tattoo on my back after 70.
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>>40718267
>BMI
Can we stop this meme?
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>>40718502
This thread is about fatties. BMI applies to fatties much better than to other /fit/izens.
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>>40718526
But body fat percentage is more important, and was provided in the post.
BMI is worthless to anyone with even 6 months lifting experience.
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>>40717322
The puff will decrease as you lose weight. It did for me.
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>>40714951

>you just want to see the man boobs
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>>40714894
You wont know for sure you have gyno until you get to a low bf. I know people who had huge floppy tits that disappeared completely upon losing all of their fat.
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fellow fatfuck here
so I recently started exercising and I noticed that the area around my stomach (mostly the sides) are almost constantly aching (especially after or during exercising) I've never had this problem before and was wondering what exactly was causing it.
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>>40718924
that's gas fatty, fart more.
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>>40719058
but at the same time, use care
trusting a fart is sometimes a mistake
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>measuring for bf% thing
>15 inch neck
my heads fuckin' huge, but on the plus side I'm apparently at 20%
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>>40719242
That's one of the least accurate measurements though. I'd try those callipers or if you have the ability the water weighing.
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>>40719261
alright, I'll get some calipers, because that did seem too low
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>>40714198
If you use a digital scale make sure you are calibrating before each weigh in too.
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>>40714090
Yep. But don't beat yourself up. Kick it's ass.
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>>40718248
>my one meal a day
Be careful
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>>40719397
>Be careful
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>>40719414

be careful anon!
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My boss had an announcement and after I asked a stupid question she looked at me funny and asked if I've lost weight. Told everyone I've lost 60 pounds.

I'm still a FAT FUCK but that was really nice to hear people go wew. 330 to 270 5 8 manlet.
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>>40719665
>5'8" 330 pounds
holy fuck that was rotund, props on the progress though
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>>40719665
Don't forget that feeling. It gets better the more you lose.
Weight till the fatties start getting jealous and offended at you having the willpower to change your life.
Or till you inspire others to get in shape.
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>>40719727
Not the proudest part of my life, nasty gout attack last winter really woke me up to how much I've fucked up. I'm sure I'll never be the same as I once was but I'd rather get off the Diabeetus Express while I can.
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>get down to 143 pounds
>wide af hips
>puffy nipples that are almost always erect
>weight stilled stored in ass
>only 5'9"

I may as well just drop weights at this point except for squatting, shave my body, and become a fuckhole. The only upside (or downside?) is wide shoulders keeping me from having optimal trap aesthetics.
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>>40717827
I want to be a tease for the normies.
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>>40719986
I thought you were a girl from that green text. What a boner killer.
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I wish I could just scream at the wretched fat and get it to leave.
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>>40719986
Anyone can look manly if they lift enough
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>>40720803
>tfw Tucker will never give you that stare while you dance around his question as to why you are so fat
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>6'2" 262lb
>down to 239lb
>mum says "you shouldnt lose any more weight, you should tone up"

shoo shoo weight loss wench
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>>40722526
"toning" is such a meaningless word
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>>40713465
>HIIT (if your knees can handle it

You can do HIIT on a bike, just fyi.
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What do you do, when you're hungry for shitty food, soda and the like?

>inb4 not eat or drink it
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>>40723013
Eat fruits, drink coffee, drink water.
Sorry if this is not helpful, but it's what i do when i crave for shitty food, i just eat some fruit and drink water.
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>>40713178
>sw: 241
>cw: 231
Doin' good
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>>40713218
24% of 228 lbs is about 55 lbs. If you lost 28 lbs of only fat (haha) you'd still have 27 lbs left. So the best you can hope for if you only lost fat is 15% at 200 lbs. So it's possible but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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>>40723013
Coffee, or rather caffeine, is nature's 0 calorie appetite suppressant. Make yourself a pot in the morning and you won't feel hungry until dinner. It even speeds up metabolism a fraction. Sure, the 3 cups a day won't be suuuuuper healthy on your heart, but if you only need it for a couple months and you don't go overboard, you'll be fine.
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Which doctor can prescribe me shit helping to lose weight?
I have BMI 37 so I qualify for help, but have no idea if I should seek help from dietetician or psychiatrist.
Maybe I should buy ECA Stack? It's illegal in my country, but I think I'll be able to get it.

Also I've heard that some SSRI and SNRI have side effects like losing weight, I'm going to psychiatrist next month to cure social anxiety, so maybe I'll be able to get something.
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>>40723135
Don't bother with an ECA stack when you're that fat, you'll just give yourself a heart attack. It's illegal for a reason, it can kill people way healthier than you so don't be retarded.
Just eat less and move more. Depending on what country you're in and what "help" you qualify for, you might be able to take tiny shortcuts like liposuction and gastric band surgery. but don't be that fuckwit who gets surgery and doesn't change their lifestyle.
Why bother trying to get psych help for social anxiety when you know it's the fat and your self consciousness about it? Spend that hour or two walking.
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started last week. doing the 0 to 10k thingy instead of HIIT as warmup and lifting seems good so far. Do the lot of you use same weight each set for squats and etc.? Or do you go increase weight per set but decrease reps? Btw. 5'9 256 lbs of human waste here
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>>40723151
My fat doesn't make me anxious when I have to make a phone call or visit office.
Also I've learned to live with my lard and I can even go shirtless on the beach. Only situation it would make me anxious is when I would hit on girls, which wont uappen anyway when I feel my guts tumbling even when sending an email to school principal.

I still feel disgusted when I look in the mirror.
BTW can I get fit with only rowing machine? If theres one physical activity I love is this and volleyball, but I dont have people to play volleyball with and its harsh on my knees
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>>40723178
I do 5x5 stronglifts which means 5 series 5 reps and increase weight.
If you want more strenght go for 3 reps more weight and if you want artificially pumped muscles which will flatten over a week of not training go for 12 reps with lower weight
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>>40723194
Rowing machines are pretty fucking amazing, so sure. But remember it's hard, and the most important thing for you is your diet. But 30 minutes on that machine a day and another 30 minutes walking/jogging when you lose enough? Sure. Count calories, eat 1500/day, and don't cheat, you'll be fine if you eat filling, low cal stuff like asparagus, fish and greek yoghurt. I also recommend eating only once or twice a day so you can eat big enough meals to satiate you rather than contributing to your hunger.
Use this, calculate on the 0 exercise setting and post results.
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
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>>40723220
It's a lot longer tho
What about carbs? Does it mean if in these 1500kcal a lot if from rice or pasta?

Eating twice a day is fine for me, I used to do IF
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Was 113.7kg (187cm 19yo male)5 weeks ago...

I'm 105kg now, wtf how did I get so fat with this seemingly god given metabolism(1500cal/day and walk a mile a day)

Feels good to feel ribs for the first time in a while, stomach is a wreck with all the stretchmarks.
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>>40723239
Carbs make you hungry, don't do keto but low-carb instead. Obviously no alcohol. In 9 months you'll look human and in a year you'll look good. The more exercise you do on top of that, the faster it'll come.
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>>40723250
Thanks
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>>40723210
Why the increasment of weight per set though?
Why not go for 3x5 Mark Rippletoe guide?
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>>40723257
We're all gonna make it.
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>get cancer
>lose 40 pounds after going through chemo

I've been given a second chance
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>>40713218
You're obese as fuck dude at that height. 170 is considered overweight even.
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>>40723277
dont think cancer is a good trade off for weight loss m8
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>>40713178
Down 7kg from 120kg to 113kg in 2 weeks. Shorts are noticeably looser, to the point that I'm gonna have to go buy smaller ones when I get paid next. On the down side, VLCD diet shakes make my poop the consistency of chocolate fudge.
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>>40723287
Eat more fiber
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>>40723287
2 weeks? The fuck?
What the hell are you doing.
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>>40723318
Use your eyes fuckwit, VLCD diet shakes.
VLCD = Very Low Calorie Diet - ~450cal/day

That, and walking about 1hr a day to uni and back.
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>>40723329
"450 calories a day" what are you retarded?
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>>40723335
I mean, I'm on 1500 and that's considered low as fuck, I can't even imagine what his body is going through on that little.
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>>40713117
>dieting
>tfw you dont take massive dumps anymore

why even live
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>>40723345
1500 is pretty standard m8. Can't say it's "low as fuck" when a normie app like MFP recommends it. But I suppose it seems super hard for fatties like us
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Hello /fat/ties, can you rate my porridge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-bMbjaJZQ
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>>40723356
>pdate] [Auto] No new posts
Either way, and actual schooled nutritionist/physical educator as in professional, would tell you how absolutely ridiculous 450 calories a day is, that's literally just starving yourself, even Buddhist monks don't eat that little.
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>>40723335
It's a formulated complete meal replacement designed for "the dietary management of obesity", and do you _really_ think there is a limit to how low you can go calorie wise? I've survived for weeks on nothing but black coffee and multivitamins, so go suck shit you weak willed fat fuck. Stay mad fatty.
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>>40723382
oooh, someones mad somebody called them out on their stupidity.
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>>40719665
best feeling ever is when you don't have to announce it

but even so, I bet people where saying I was a meth addict behind me back
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>>40723382
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wew, had a very odd dream last night

dreamt I devoured a whole box of malteasers (chocolate for americans)
I was stressing out thinking 'that has completely fucked up my calorie intake, I don't even know how much was in it'
Just woke up and remembered that I don't have any fucking malteasers

Don't try to fuck with me again brain.
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>>40723421
That's exactly how he will look if he continues, even worse actually lol, Eat 1200-1500, Exercise. That's it, don't use fucking diet scams.
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>>40723479
enjoy your lack of progress because you're too weak willed to push yourself.
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>>40723508
You really can't proclaim strong will if you allowed yourself to get that fat mate.
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It's been nearly a two weeks.
Went from no exercise, unfit fat fuck, 103 kg, 5.9.

Started lifting three days a week, two days of cardiovascular, running and squash. Eating well. Lost nearly a stone, feel great. My mind feels better too. I look forward to exercise, it's weird. Feel great when I don't go over my tdee goal.
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>>40723508
too weak willed to push myself? I go to the gym 2 hours every day, work a 9-5 almost every day, eat 1500 calories, and still loose an average of 2-5lbs a week, Get good faggot instead of taking shortcuts, you're whats wrong with this board lol
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>>40723552
You're a crab in a bucket m80, trying to pull others leaving back into the pitiful mire you call your existence. You really should just kill yourself anon, there's nothing left for you, being the bottom dweller that you are.
That being said, circumstances that led to my initial weight were beyond my control. That is no longer the case.
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>>40723564
What are your gains like on 1500?
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>>40723581
Didn't know one man could get so booty-blasted.

Regardless friendo, you're always in control of your own body unless you are literally being force-fed, which I doubt.
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>>40723564
Not being a lazy faggot = "taking shortcuts"
Cool story brah.

Hope that shitty 9-5 works out for you though, as you seem to enjoy a lack of return on investment
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>>40723239
>>40723250
Don't listen to this idiot.
Sugars and refined carbs make you hungry.
Whole grains, raw fruits and veggies, kasha, beans all fill you up for a long time without a spike in blood sugar thanks to all the fiber and the complex carbs needing to be broken down.
They're less calories and better for you than animal fats.
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>>40723600
Trying too hard.
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>>40723618
And you're not trying hard enough, obviously
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>>40723283
>170 is considered overweight even.
Yeah if you're pure fucking fat. 170 is considered completely healthy at 5'10.
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>>40723508
>Starving yourself because you're an impatient piece of shit
lmao
I've lost 100lbs already but I did it completely healthy like a normal fucking person eating a normal amount. Not some meme tier garbage.
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>>40723586
Not him but I've been eating at 1500-1800 for 9 months and my gains have gone up.
Very VERY slowly but they have gone up.

Only lift to go down was OHP and I think it's because I've lost so much weight.
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>>40723382
>It's a formulated complete meal replacement
Don't forget to buy it at your local GNC™. I gained 100lbs of muscle and lost 300lbs in just 3 weeks!
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>>40723329
>>40723382
>>40723581

Your retarded diet seems to affect your mood, buddy.
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>>40723890
nah, just no patience for morons who consider broscience to be fact.

>>40723818
costs $60 for 2 weeks supply, how much do you spend on food and supplements? more than that? get fucked mate.

>>40723788
let me guess, you believe in that "starvation mode" bullshit? Literal retard.
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>>40723913
>costs $60 for 2 weeks supply
How is this an excuse? It simply isn't healthy.
Post what you're drinking and your stats so we can laugh at you. Attach a picture and I can get my ab workout for the day.
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>171 posts
>31 images
where are the memes
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>>40723913
>"starvation mode"
No, that's if you're literally not eating for days on end. You're still starving yourself on some meme tier diet for no reason other than being an impatient child who needs instant gratification.
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>>40723508
For the record this guy ended up in hospital just yesterday because of his shitty diet.

Lose weight but do it the smart way.
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>>40723930
so you do believe in "starvation mode"> Congratulations, are either brain damaged.

>>40723923
Not an excuse, just disproving the assumption you seem to have that I'm wasting hundreds of dollars on this shit, when I'm probably spending _significantly_ less than you are on your shit tier supplements. Look in the mirror and laugh at yourself, and the utter failure that you are.

Being a fatfuck isn't healthy either.

I should note that this diet shake shit is specifically keto based, practically no carbs allowed, thus the vast majority of energy consumed comes directly from fatty acid oxidation.
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>>40723967
>loose skin on the face
oh god that is my nightmare. What weight did he start at, how much did he lose and how fast?
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>>40723975
Yes, starvation mode if you're literally not fucking eating for days. That's called starving you stupid cunt.
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>>40723975
and apparently I am brain damaged for fucking up my post wew
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>>40723975
I don't buy supplements. I buy food and eat healthy.

Are you going to post what you're buying or keep being a deranged cunt spouting your meme tier diet?
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>>40723982
I know trying to avoid arguing with idiots on a Vietnamese meat curing symposium is an exercise in futility, but goddamn, you're a different breed of retard anon
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>cant be fucked to work out
>been eating way less since christmas
>gone down 25 lbs
even though some progress is better than no progress I always feel like a fucking failure and I know its objectivly true that I am one
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>>40723996
And do you spend more than $30/week on food? fuck right off then.
And to be honest, I really don't feel the need to validate your retardation by posting the specific brand of shit I'm consuming, it's all very similar, which you'd find out if you just fucking googled it. Guess you're too retarded for even that anon, for shame.
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>>40723967
The nipples are crazy south too..
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>>40724026
Of course I do, because I'm eating normally. I never stated anything about the price of what you're buying, just that's it's fucking meme tier bullshit and isn't sustainable. You'll need to eat normally eventually;why not just start doing it now?

>I really don't feel the need to validate your retardation by posting the specific brand of shit I'm consuming
If you're drinking fucking 1 thing of soylent a day you're literally retarded. What do you lift? The bar? I don't see what your long term goals could possibly be. Your lifts and gains would be garbage, you'd be unhealthy shedding weight really fast, your skin ill look disgusting and you wont have muscle to offset it.

What are your goals? How much weight are you trying to lose? Why are you trying to justify this stupidly low calorie diet based on price alone? You're wasting precious gains and time by eating like this. You think it's faster to reach your goal, but you're only off putting muscle gain.
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>>40724054
Please, crawl back into your mother's basement and stop trying to give fitness advice based off heresay and groupthink.

If you're literally too fucking stupid to google the term "VLCD", then there is no helping you. You are a lost cause, and will forever be a burden on everyone you know, and think you love.

My goals are none of your concern, and trying to imply that they are, is only a diversion from the weakness of your argument.

To think that I'm doing it based on price alone is again, a symptom of your simple brain, anon. I've considered more than one aspect of this option, and decided it fits best with my current situation, goals, and resources. The fact that you are so steadfast in your disapproval of something outside your realm of experience exposes you as the simpleton you are.

In other closing, kystbhfamsmdh desu senpai.
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>>40724111
In closing*

>my shitposting career forever tarnished
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>>40724111
>My goals are none of your concern
Then stop trying to justify your stupid fucking diet.
>weakness of your argument.
My argument is your shake isn't sustainable, and you've provided no proof otherwise.
>To think that I'm doing it based on price alone
You've brought up price a few times, saying that because I spend more it isn't as good or I'm somehow wrong. See
>>40724026
>And do you spend more than $30/week on food?
>>40723975
>when I'm probably spending _significantly_ less than you are

The original post had nothing to do with price, just that you bought in to some meme tier diet. It could cost $1, that doesn't matter, you still bought in to it.
Again, what are your goals anon? If I knew them I'd be more understanding of this stupid shit you're doing. I can't imagine any of your lifts going up ever, you'd just be wasting your life away. If your goal is JUST to get to a specific weight, why aren't you doing this with the assumption you'll be maintaining that weight when you get there? Doing so would allow you to put on muscle so you don't look like a freak once you hit your goal. What the fuck are you trying to accomplish
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Alright /fat/

I read the sticky and got some idea of where to go with my diet, but I need a bit of your help.

How much of your food is actually "natural"? Do you only buy lean meats and vegetables or do you add anything at least slightly processed? do you make your own butter? do you make anything like that on your own? and can you give me any starting tips? I was 245lbs last week now I just weighed myself I'm 250.8lbs after taking a shit and a very long piss.

Help me.
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>>40724149
I doesn't need to be sustainable, my brainlet friend. It's a means to a specific end.
You obviously don't grasp the fact that cost is important to me, so let me spell it out to you.

Cost/price is important to me.

I get the feeling that you're just trying to find something to latch onto though, so I won't go into detail. Also, you still haven't mentioned how much your so called healthy diet, consisting primarily of chicken tendies, would cost.

>It could cost $1, that doesn't matter
To you, you fucking mongoloid retard. lrn2reading comprehension.

And no shit my lifts aren't going up, I'm on a severe cut, what the fuck do you honestly expect to happen?

You're also implying this is my first rodeo, and I don't have any muscle underneath the flab, you are mistaken once again.
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>>40724122
Dont worry mate.
With your current lifestyle and attitude, you'll have some more decades of shitposting in /fat/ to rebuild that career.
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>>40724181
Unless you're on like paleo or something you don't need to make your own butter. It's good to know where it's coming from and shit but if you're on a budget get the cheap butter, just make sure it's really butter and not margarine or some shit.

I consider something natural if it has a very small ingredients list, especially with pronouncable words. It's not a "durhrrrr chemicals" thing it's a "the closer it is to nature the less likely it'll need some kind of binding agent or "natural flavoring"

Compare a popular brand of peanut butter to natural brands.
Jiff might include peanuts, but also added sugar, and maybe some other random shit like xylitol (the reason you can't feed dogs peanut butter anymore) which is a sweetener.
A natural peanut butter will have one ingredient: peanuts.

You can make your own peanut butter, it's relatively easy, but if it's the same as buying the natural peanut butter why make more work for yourself?
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>>40724149
Damn you just got fucked.
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>>40724213
>I doesn't need to be sustainable
>It's a means to a specific end.
Which is what?

You're saying cost is important. What are you going to do when you hit your specific end? What comes next? You'll need to eat normally after that. What is your goal?

From what you've posted it doesn't make any sense. You're on a severe cut to hit a weight goal, this is understandable. But cost is important, which you're making it sound like you can't eat normally. This would make sense except you've stated this isn't your normal diet.

What do you eat normally? Why aren't you just eating less of what you normally eat? Were you bulking? How did you bulk if cost is important? What are your goals retard
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>>40724223
>implying you know anything about my lifestyle
>implying /fit/, or even /fat/ - a rather newly fledged general, will still be around decades to come
>implying you're not just a smartarse millennial beta male piece of shit, desperately trying to validate his failure of an existence through attempted appeals to group authority through shitposting
>implying implications
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>>40724181
Care to share your previous diet? Do you still drink sugar and eat fast food?
I'm no expert, but i think i can help you a bit with food and stuff.
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>>40724254
I had no previous diet and my family would always buy fast food and processed shit for years.

I'm trying to break the cycle and get myself in shape but they aren't going to help me and I'm trying to figure out what foods I should buy to start losing weight.

So yes no real diet only fast foods and processed shit 24/7.

I'm just trying to find a new healthier alternative to burgers, soda, and cake.
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>>40724247
Holy shit anon, learn to think in the abstract, it helps in day-to-day life, believe me.

Why are you so concerned with my goals? Again, you're just fishing for something else to latch onto in an attempt to denigrate my choices. Make a solid argument fuckwit.

It doesn't make any sense to you because you are s t u p i d.
You've stated specifically that being on a severe cut to reach a weight goal is understandable, yet you still fail to understand. I swear, there really are no bounds to human stupidity.
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>>40724300
>Why are you so concerned with my goals?
Your goals would explain why you're doing your meme tier diet.

You're on a sever cut to reach a weight goal, possibly due to cost being important. What are you going to do after you hit your goal?
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>>40723979
>>40723967
>>40723421
He's a local small time e-celeb because of his severe NEETdom, dyslexia and borderline retardation. He uploads like 4-7 new Youtube videos per day, basically telling about his real life and filming it.

I don't know his starting weight but apparently he began to lose weight in spring 2016 and lost about 40 kilograms (88 lbs?) until he ended up in hospital yesterday. It seems that he did it by just cutting his food to the minimum, drinking a lot of coffee and doing a lot of cycling and running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWywtfme7XY
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What's the most accurate way to measure your TDEE?
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>>40724312
>meme tier diet
>your cost! cost! duhhh cost!
>uhhh... what are you doing after your meme goal? durrrrr

Holy fuck actually get the fuck out already.

I'm not even that guy and I think you're a fucktard.
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>>40724320
Use a calculator and calculate at sedentary.
Follow the number given minus X amount for a few weeks as strictly as possible.
Weigh yourself every day and mark what your weight is.

Adjust based on your results after a few weeks.
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>>40724312
After I reach my goal, I'm going to fuck your mother.
Does that satisfy your curiosity?

But in all seriousness, I will return to the diet I was on before I embarked upon this "meme tier" diet, as you so eloquently put it, in order to maintain my weight/bulk.

Maybe you should pick up a book, or do some basic level research before you start spouting your retarded shit next time fuccboi.
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>>40724367

Can you explain it as if I was a stupid person, please?
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>>40724359
He stated cost is important to him you fucking stupid cunt. And having 1 shake a day, when it's 450 fucking calories, for long periods of time, is meme tier. Can you even follow posts? Don't butt in to our argument if you're too stupid to read.

>>40724376
> I will return to the diet I was on before I embarked upon this "meme tier" diet
Why aren't you on that diet but just eating less? You'd be able to maintain or even improve lifts that way. How does this make cost important if you can afford to bulk?
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Think homemade mayo is ok on a cut if I go low on the oil?

https://youtu.be/saU3_xJJrCg
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>>40724385
>don't butt into our argument!

Ahahahaha you're precious.

Go give your mom a hug for me.
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>>40724385
Why are you so fucking stupid? Did you injure your head as a child? Do you have a congenital neural deficit? Do you legitimately have autism?
From what I understand, autism is primarily a failure of the "mind reading" apparatus of the brain to properly develop. This could explain why you have such difficulty with the concept that other people have different opinions than you. Go see your GP anon, get yourself diagnosed, there is help available.
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>>40724380
Use a calculator by googling TDEE calculator, making sure sedentary is selected as an option.
Get the number it provides from the calculator. Lets pretend it's 2500 calories.
Subtract say 500 calories. You have 2000 calories left.
Eat at 2000 calories a day for a few weeks.
Weigh yourself every day. Don't look at individual weight gain or loss, but weekly weight loss.
In 2-3 weeks if you've gained weight you're stupid and probably didn't count calories correctly. If you're 100% sure you counted correctly, lower your intake another 100-200 calories (1800-1900) and repeat.
If you've lost weight, continue doing what you're doing till you stall.
Then recalculate TDEE and continue.
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>>40724412
I'm not the one eating 450 calories a day tying to hit a weight goal when there is literally no reason to and simply hinders lifting in the long run. Maybe if you explained more it'd make sense, but as of now you're just being a fucking retard.
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>>40724385
also, improving lifts on a cut, mein sides
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>>40724417
Thank you.

I appreciate that.
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>>40724433
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>>40724434
>What is recomp
I also stated maintaining. If you're maintaining your lifts at 450 calories a day you're lifting just the bar or light as fuck weights to begin with and it wouldn't really matter.
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Keep going /fat/. I first came to /fit/ about over 2 and a half years ago. I was 40% bodyfat, weighed 93kg/205 lbs, and so weak I couldn't do weightless squats.

I'm now about 20% bodyfat, 83kg/183 lbs, and have started competing in powerlifting meets.

People still call me fat especially haters who know how hard I train but the difference is there and objectively measurable.

I had a range of health problems (high cholesterol, asthma, high blood glucose, high blood pressure, etc) which the doc said are all fine according to the most recent tests.

I still have a long way to go until people stop calling me fat but it's already improved my quality of life hugely. We're all gonna make it brahs.
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Was 380lbs at my heaviest. Down to 230 from just diet and exercise. Right now I'm on vacation in Vegas and I just keep eating. I'm worried I'm not gonna be able to go back to the diet life after this trip.
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>>40724251

>obese tub of shit
>waddling to uni everyday
>acting like his initial weight wasn't his responsibility
>desperately clinging to his meme diet
>constantly avoiding real questions and switching topics

>calling others beta and failures

Now this is just rich.
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>>40724453
recomp != cut
maintaining != cut

learn
to
fucking
read

Autists are a plague on this earth.
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>>40724459
I am neither in pain nor hurting though
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>>40724394
Yesterday I made homemade mayo with avocado oil. Really good
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>>40724474
>maintaining != cut
You can maintain your lifts on a cut though. Are you retarded? You can also gain on a recomp, which you'll still cut weight with.

Why would you purposely lose gains to cut weight
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>>40724467
>>40724453
>>40724485

So now we're samefagging, cool.

You're not jewish perchance are you anon?
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>>40724474
>autists are a plague to this earth.

I feel like the word autism has suffered the same fate as "literally".

I have a brother with a disability called autism and people on here always use the word to describe a stupid individual or a group of people.

Now I'm not saying I'm mad about you using the word in any way but it is hard for me to say I appreciate the way people use it so loosely nowadays. Autism wasn't really a word people used years ago but now it's the new cool kid's phrase.

Real shame.

I wonder if calling someone a paraplegic will be the new buzzword for people who don't lift.
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>>40724490
I'm the last 2 but not the first one. When have any of my posts devolved in to only pure shitposting? I've stated my arguments in every single one, even when replying to pure shitposting.
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>>40724490

Alright then.
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>>40724459
>high cholesterol, asthma, high blood glucose, high blood pressure,

why not get into body building and add a cut to your regiment?
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>>40724017
Even doing 1pl8 of the four big lifts doesn't take long and is at least better than nothing.
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>>40724502
>I have a brother with a disability called autism
hey me too m8
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>>40724519

I cut to 85 and wanted to be strong so recomped. Now cutting to go down weightclasses. Cut to 74 if can.
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>>40724506
I see that now, the last one has much better punctuation.

>When have any of my posts devolved in to only pure shitposting?
Excepting the fact that your so called argument is, in and of itself, shit.
also, in reference to your shitposting see
>>40724467

I have deemed that I have enough muscle mass that I can sacrifice some in a rapid cut. How your feeble mind was unable to comprehend this possibility, we may never know.

>>40724502
>>40724540
Funnily enough, I also have a brother with an ADS disorder, which is why I recognise the signs.
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>>40724550
ASD*

>fuck me
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>>40724550
>ADS disorder
is that like ADD?
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>>40724563
>>40724568
ooohh ok.
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>>40724502
I miss the days where the cool kid phrase was calling someone a faggot.
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>>40724579
It's all good friend, call idiots fun phrases, like window licking pavement ape or shit sniffing aids carrier
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>>40724579
you're still a faggot though senpai
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>>40724550
>I have deemed that I have enough muscle mass that I can sacrifice some in a rapid cut
You could have explained this forever ago when I asked what your long term goals were. You really dodged stating this straight out for some reason.
Now that I know you're retarded and are purposely trying to lose muscle mass, and understand you're losing muscle mass, that's all I really cared about to begin with.

If you're happy losing muscle mass on a stupid diet, I'm happy for you, since that's what you're going to accomplish. Congratulations anon. You really shouldn't call people weak for not wanting to lose muscle mass during their cut though, like you did earlier.

That's just silly.
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>>40724579
The actual cool kid phrase is cuck.
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>>40714185
i just eat 5 baby carrots every 2 hours and water. it sucks but i've lost so much, and i basically trained my body not to eat so fucking much, so score
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>>40724595
that's one of the gayest fucking curses in the fucking world.
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>>40724550

He's not the one shitposting mate, he is actually reasonable and hasn't given up on you yet.
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Sure is a whole lot of negativity in this thread.
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>>40724593
>You really dodged stating this straight out for some reason.
Because it was entirely irrelevant you degenerate foreskin wrangler.

The fact that you're a hungry skeleton who can barely lift his minuscule penis doesn't necessarily reflect on the rest of the population, again, pointing to an autism spectrum diagnosis.

Also, note that I didn't call them weak, I called them weak-willed. Big difference retard-kun.

>>40724611
nice meme colourscheme edgelord, gonna hack some gibsons on your macbook? you edit the element all by yourself? or did you have to resort to googling?

>>40724607
fucking cuck
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>>40724652
>degenerate foreskin wrangler.
See? it's fun right?
>>40724590
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>>40724652
>fucking cuck
kill yourself you shit eating kike
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>>40724652
>Because it was entirely irrelevant
It really isn't. Earlier you were calling people weak for not doing meme tier diets like black coffee and multivitamans, or your ridiculous 450 calories a day. This is only advised for people who want to lose muscle mass like yourself.
You're not weak-willed just because you don't want to purposely lose your gains retard.
>You're so weak-willed for not wanting to lose muscle mass, whats wrong with you?
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>>40724660
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>>40724648
Post body positivity.
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>>40724670
You are a literal retard, at very least excuse yourself from the gene pool.

>>40724667
1488, blow me nigger
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>>40724579
I think it has always been cool, maybe now even more so because the word faggot has become a similarly offending and publicly banned word like nigger.
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>>40724691
I'm not the one advising or advocating purposely losing muscle mass.
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in 8 months i lost 85 pounds (i could of easily lost 120+, but i wasn't really trying the first 3 or so months)

then i moved, and brother got cancer so i switched to eating. so after 5-8 months of giving up on my diet, i gained over 53 pounds back. i'm back on my diet now, and im showing good progress. wish me luck boi's
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>>40724686
W-what's happening to his feet?
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>>40713291
I havent started changing my lifestyle yet because i am waiting for some things in life to stabilize. But i have been lifting on and off for a while and have been able to to deadlift 100 kg without any prior training. But i can barely manage 30 kg 5x5 in bench press.
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>>40724698
I didn't advise shit, you toilet licking horse fister.
I stated what I've done thus far, and am now doing.
If you take that for advice, on an anonymous Korean snake weaving forum, you are truly beyond any sort of help. I am 100% serious in advocating your suicide.
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>>40724720
>I stated what I've done thus far
And called other people weak willed for not wanting to lose muscle mass, which means you're advocating for your retarded life choices or think you're superior for wanting to do so.
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>>40713117
How do you eat properly without losing all your money on chicken and eggs? How do you stay sated? Do you just gorge on vegetables until youre full or do you simply go around being hungry?
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>>40724736
I like eating ice and drinking water when I'm hungry.
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>>40724736
>$50 a week is too expensive

you could ask your mom to buy some of your groceries if you do chores around the house for her.
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>>40724731
But I am superior, especially to you, for I have the power of ABSTRACT THOUGHT, something you keenly lack.
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>>40724759
If abstract thought means purposely being retarded and willingly losing muscle mass when it can be prevented, then I don't want it that kind of power. I'm not sure why you'd want others to lose muscle mass with you. Why not keep that to yourself?
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>>40724787
>If abstract thought means purposely being retarded
It does not, as you would then have an over-abundance.
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>>40724750
Kek, i may live at home but i pay my own rent and my own groceries with my salary. Its still expensive as fuck to eat so much meat and not really economically feasible unless you buy the cheapest factory farmed stuff
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Is a girl being fat still wrong if she powerlifts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzgTj1OX8D4
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>>40724808
Seems like it does in that case, because all you've been spouting has been complete retardation.

>>40724821
Chicken for a week is $10-$20. Eggs are extremely cheap, you can buy them by the dozens for nothing.
Or do you live outside the US?
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>>40724825
>Is a girl being fat still wrong if she powerlifts?
under 35% body fat no. that's only a 5% cushion between Thicc and disgusting pig
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>>40724736
a kilo of frozen chicken is like £4
that'll last you at least a week
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>>40724839
Solid comeback brah, you really show me, gosh darn.

Ah, American, that explains the brain damage.
Not everyone lives in a third world country like you.
Some of us live in countries that have regulations on what sort of bumfuckery can occur to animals and their products and still be passed off as food. And to think, you call the compounded product I consume "unhealthy". Top fucking kek
>>
>>40724888
>2 lbs of chicken is enough for a week
not to diminish your point but realistically it should be like 4lbs of chicken.

and it's cheaper if it's fresh.

that still is less than £8 a week.
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>>40724897
The product itself is probably fine if you were taking enough. At 450 calories it isn't healthy though. If you can't afford to eat properly it doesn't sound like you're in any kind of first world country yourself.
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>>40724897
im not the guy you've been arguing with for the last hour or so, but i will tell you your a dumb kike for putting Americans down. we are still number one, bitch
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>>40724825
well she does look better now. i guess she learnt how to put on makeup.
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>>40724897
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
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>>40724911
Opinion != fact

You are wrong. You will always be wrong. Nothing you say will convince me that your are right, because you are wrong, and it will always be so in regard to this subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenesis
10secs in google, but I know you won't read it, you're not here for facts, you're here for feels, like the subhuman degenerate that you are.

>>40724919
shitposting != arguing.

Are you seriously standing up for Americans? They are categorically one of the most retarded groups of people on earth.
Unless you remove the minorities.
Physically.
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>>40724975
Eating so low you lose muscle mass is not healthy.
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>>40724975
America is a sinking ship. i hate this nation just as much as you mate. i will defend it however because im still american and like conflict. :p
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>>40724995
Then according to you, _all_ cuts are unhealthy.

Do you not know how to apply inferential logic? or is it simply outside you incredibly limited realm of knowledge?
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>>40725013
Ride the tiger brah
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How much cardio/day is too much?
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>>40725078
Anything less than 5h/day and you're fine, unless you're hurting yourself with high-impact stuff.
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>>40725078
I'd suggest that reaching exhaustion means you should stop.
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>>40724213
If you were as high IQ and superior as you think you are you wouldn't be fat.
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>>40725132
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>>40725161
>>40725161
>>40725161
>>40725161
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
please contain the autism in the new one lads
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Hey /fit/ I'm autistic and for some reason most fruits, veggies, and all seafood makes me want to throw up. Are eggs, rice, and bananas ok for losing weight? I'm like 160lbs, but I got a belly and a fatty bottom. I would really like to get rid of it I don't know ify diet will let me.

My height is 6'0"
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>>40713178
Down ~2kg in one and a half week, 1500 kcal/day + that first sip, running 5 km 5×/week, starting weight is 196 lbs/89 kg, goal weight is 174 lbs/79 kg.
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>>40725152
I'm not the other dude who was posting. I was just stating that fat people are low IQ subhumans and have no place talking down to others.
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>>40725016
I've maintained my muscle just fine on a cut. I wasn't eating at 450 calories like a retard though
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>>40725016
is this the same ultra low cal diet fatty that talks down to people?

Just lol, if you could stick to a diet vlcd or regular deficit you wouldn't be fat and disgusting.

The other guy is right, you lose too much muscle mass with major deficits and look like trash at the end. Guessing you've never even got to a normal weight before to know that yourself.
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>>40718336
dece bud you made it through

get back to it
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im at about ~180 and look pretty chubby around my face and stomach, i wonder how much i have to lose so i at least look healthy
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>>40725557
start doing cardio consistently and your fat stores might move
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>>40725585
started cycling for about half an hour a day, my heart rate monitor says im at about 80bpm, but i feel like thats too low
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Kinda getting a bit tired now, lads.

For six weeks, I've been absolutely caning it at the gym. Five days a week, 40mins cardio each time, lifting like a beast, eating well (1400 calories, TDEE is 2060).

Six weeks. Lost inches and fat from all around my body but no weight lost. In fact I've gained from my last weigh in.

I track all that I eat, all my exercise (but I change calories burnt to lower because I know how machines overestimate).

I keep coming on here and seeing how people are losing 7lbs in a week because they've just given up soda and I'm just...not losing anything. I've really committed myself to this (I worked out prior to this and ate healthily, just not as committed as I am now).

I look a lot slimmer, but it would have been nice to see at least a few pounds lost. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's not food, it's not exercise and I don't have any health issues which would cause difficulty in losing weight.

Anybody else experienced something similar?
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>>40725914
Not to blame you, but are you sure you are tracking your calories correctly? Do you exclude drinks from calories or making some other rookie mistake? It would also be useful if you posted your original weight and your weekly weight loss progress so far.
Also, have you actually measured those inches, or are you just feeling like you lost them? It sounds strange that someone would lose that much fat yet stay the same weight.
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>>40726198
That's really strange, you either have some crazy water retention going on, in which case it could be worth it to consult a doctor, or your scale is fucked somehow.
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>>40713178
18 Year old 6'4, started at 233 pounds, currently I'm between 90-91 kg after 2 and a half months. Haven't lost any noticeable muscle according to my gym's body scanner, which also says I've got 12,8% body fat when I still got a little bit of saggy belly fat and a bit of fat on my chest. Got veins and dat jawline tho.

Did I lose weight to fast? I'm afraid I'll have loose skin on my belly and chest forever.
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>>40726337
The blood retention thing was just a random idea because I recently read the wiki article on the fattest man ever who had a fuckton of excess water accumulated in his body, giving him a large fraction of his weight. I don't know about how the contraceptive pill affects someone because I'm a male. Maybe you should post your story in the new thread >>40725161, so a smarter anon could answer.
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>>40726387

Thanks anon, I still appreciate your answer. I'm feeling a bit bummed out now so I'll probably just see how things go, up my workout and come back for a moan in two weeks if its still not working.
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>>40725914
You obviously need less calories. Also split your work out days and do high volume reps

Again you've heard it a billion times, but if you burn more than you ingest especially when you're fat, you will lose weight
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>>40725914
I had the same happen to me. What is happening is that you are gaining muscle faster than you are losing fat. I had to go from weighing myself once a week, to once a month to give enough time to see results. I noticed positive visual changes to my body before seeing a decline in weight on the scale.

Keep at it. You are gonna make it
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>tfw you realize even if you got /fit/ as fuck she's just not into guys who look like you
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>5'7
>Down to fucking 144lbs
>Still have a belly
Starting to lose faith
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>>40718248
Why only one meal a day?
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