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>tfw I don't remember whether I pinned left vg or right vg monday

I keep fighting about everything and then I start roaring and it's a mess.

Dropping to a cruise dose and actually taking an AI. Pray for me that I I'm just having mood swings and I'm not irreparably damaged.

>>40162956
are u on tren

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>>40162956
Praying 4u bimbo. Did you ever get into that mindful breathing stuff you were interested in last summer?

Also when you get the chance would be curious as to your thoughts on this:

>>40158122
>Never knew about this - thanks for the insight bimbo. Was kinda gung-ho about running an 8 week var cycle due to reading about how it significantly increases androgen receptor expression in muscle tissue (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10443664), ostensibly doing so in adipose tissue as well. Is this what you consider var's "job"?

>Might look into epistane+ubiquinol now that you mention it. How long did you run 60-75mg? Most people look like they're running 40mg for around 4-6 weeks.

>>40162855
>dat innocent lip bite
no tren blast of this world could make me as ravenous as this simple look

>>40163000
Mirin jerrbears

I call var a miracle drug mostly for its low impact results coupled with just how feel good it is for my body in general. I can Slav squat on var. not typical. Androgen receptor expression mediated through var? I dunno ask brick.

Run 60mg epi for 6-8 weeks imo. Coupled with cardio, cool dude mineral Supplements and ubiquonol you should be one lean doggy with a nice heart.

First timer here, whats the easiest place to self pin?
Been thinking glutes but im kinda retarded and im scared ill cripple myself;
Will be applying only 1 cc twice a week

>>40163117
VG

>>40162855
Alexis Ren is the GOAT

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>tfw really want to do a cycle

>>40163129
where else
im unironically scared of being too dumb to pin my glutes and fuck myself up

>>40163160
Vg isn't glute and vg is literally the easiest

>>40163143
if you need to meme arrow your wish to do so without details, you should do some required reading

>>40163143
w2c reptile skin striation

>>40163167
If i pin a vein, after i take the the siringe back and switch needles can i pin the same spot? obviously avoiding the vein but applying on the same side

>>40163190
1 g tren A

>>40163224
fair enough

>>40163221
yes

>>40163143
Those obliques tho. As much of a sane humane approach I have to my blasts, I might just start literally >roiding for this kek

>>40163270
I originally started lifting to cosplay guts. Lame story I know. I did Toguro once.

>>40163270
WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>40163285
get a load of this nerd

>>40163285
Not lame at all. Coming from a similar approach. Cosplayed Silver Rayleigh a while ago, dyed hair and beard and shit. Fun stuff.

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>>40163304
Pics?

>can U find C H E M??

Those of you who remember the previous 3 or 4 threads, when I was telling you about my fucked up weekend. Assaulting a police officer, being sucker punched and knocked out cold for 20mins and later trying to killmyself...

All is well. No charges were filed, I simply had to write an apology letter and agree to seek help. They were more concerned with my own safety apparently. Got off pretty lucky on that one ay lads

>>40163304
>I cosplayed fridgemode with dyel arms look at me

kek

have been lifting for 9 months, not on my natty limit but have made good progress, gonna start pinning test to try to get at least to my real natty limit and then keep it till the next cycle, what do you guys think?
is the "you should lift for at least 2 years before roiding" thing just a meme?

I really wanna get better and im down to do it despite the side effects, why should i wait before boosting myself?

>>40163324
>Pics?
not on this phone, will maybe post them another thread if the topic comes up

>>can U find C H E M??
not sure I want to lol, what a beautiful mess this picture is


>>40163328
fite me irl fag 1v1 i sware on me mum

but yes, he is not goal body at all i just liked the char and had the fitting hair and beard lol

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What am I doing wrong, /fraud/?

I've been going to a big gym for over a year now and no qt3.14 bear gymbro has taken me under his wing and introduced me to roids.

What do I have to do to get dem hookups?

>>40163380
>doesn't realize he was born just in time to buy any steroid he wants on the internet

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When are you guys going to start your cuts for summer? Gotta up the cardio to 30minutes ED too. Fugg.

>>40163467
end of march

it's winter coat season here p much all the way until the end of april

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>>40163482
TFW no perma bearmode climate. These past couple days it was 72 here but our weather is all over the fucking place.

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>>40163467
Already started
> tfw just barely fit into size 30 custom belt hole

Only a few more months of pmsf left, lads
If I cut out drinking Id lose an additional lb a week baka

>>40162956
Hey man my ex still won't take me back due to me not changing yet, I start arguments quite a bit and I'm all over the place at times. I wonder if it could be due to never running an AI also get jealous now and then which maybe is from increased estro idk

>>40163587
Yeah a lot of the same issues here. I get no physical estrogen sides but I definitely think mental now.

>>40163664
I've been with her since I started gear and in the beginning I was fine but as time has gone on Ive ran more gear and it's just gotten worse, maybe an AI will solve this. Lol now that I think about it mostly everyone I know on shit isn't in a serious relationship.

>>40163511
That a guy?

>>40163716
Again same here.

>>40162956
>>40163587

what are you guys running without an AI?

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>>40163570
I've never done psmf, do you feel like shit given how low calorie it looks to be?

>>40163732
Negative ghostrider. Look at the titty for confirmation.

>>40163570
How is a size 30 bad let alone something that requires months of psmf????

>>40163912
We eating disorder general now.

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>>40163716
>>40163745
Literally any time im moody it's estro

>>40163839
The brain fog is real, I was eating extra yesterday and today for my interview

But once you get used to feeling tired its fine
Doesnt change how mustard tastes

>>40163912
I had a thinner waist last summer when I needed that hole, its tight now
Plus I just have a girly frame and already planned out my cut so no matter what Im going through march

>>40163921
>now

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>>40163959
>The brain fog is real
Well scratch that then.

>>40163984
Pussy
Its like you dont even want to be
#7%
#shredded
#notipcrew

>>40163820
I've ran all of my cycles without an AI. Tried letro a while back but I'm convinced it caused my hair loss and the actual gear hasn't lol.

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>>40164035
Wew Golden corral buffets erryday. Gotta eat big to get big.

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>>40164081
>Haven't ran an AI before
>Runs strongest AI first time.

Kay. Maybe try arimemedex first next time you decide to try or exememestane.

>>40163745
Hopefully we're not fucked for good, I'm ordering an AI now and maybe it can help me out enough to sort out things with her.

>>40163959
>its tight now
O I see

I wear 29 jeans without a belt and have to pull them up sometimes and I am fat as fuck

>>40163570
>>40164185
>size 30
>size 29
fucking manlets

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>>40164185
Thats disgusting
They should not let that level of obesity in public

>>40164086
Gotta eat small to get small
Cmon
>tfw spending $30 a week on food

>>40164224
6ft king of manlets
I wish I could reach the top shelf of the fridge

Are there any proven effective drugs or substances that I can use to increase my natural T levels significantly from the lower range to the upper range?

>>40164418
hcg, cl--

>significantly
no

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>>40163959
>Plus I just have a girly frame

>>40164441
>>significantly
>no
by that I mean like go from borderline clinical low test to the mid to upper ranges for man in mid 20's. Not anything like an actual steroid cycle. I guess thats not very significant in comparison to a cycle. But thanks any way I will check that stuff out. and the cl--. Do you mean that stuff that is typically used for pct?

>>40164482
Clomid, yeah. Depending on why you have low test HCG and clomid may work. But you will get you to the middle of the range, not the high end. And they may not work at all depending on the root cause.

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>>40164455
Im narrow as heck baka

>>40164482
100 mg test got me to 800ng/dl

For comparison hcg and pregnenolone got me to ~550

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>>40164321
>tfw spending $30 a week on food
Wow that's impressive. What do you eat in a given day?

>>40164496
>>40164503
k thanks I will look into that. I think I'd likely just start with hcg and pregnenolone and judge from there if I need anything else like the clomid or test

>>40164529
Chicken and protein shakes with a banana
I think Im going to spend more for more processed chicken so I have extra time for achool work though

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>>40163570
>psmf
>drinking
what are you doing nigger

>>40164580
is that what fucking lyle looks like wtf? such an advocate of psmf and he is a fat piece of shit?

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>>40164503
>Im narrow as heck baka
ur perfect just the way u are jerry, dont let anyone ever tell u otherwise. not even urself

>>40163921

Heh...

>>40164580

This. Like, maybe those calories would be better spent on fat or even more protein for hunger station, just maybe, or not consumed to speed up the PMSF?

>months of PMSF

sounds fun jerry

>>40164035

what's the point of being shredded and hairy? shave when you finish the protocal

D H B
H
B

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>>40164615
>what's the point of being shredded and hairy? shave when you finish the protocal

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>>40164615
>what's the point of being shredded and hairy? shave when you finish the protocal
Nah bruh trim that shit. I do #2-3 all over my chest and sometimes shorter in my back. Girls say they like guys with no hair but they lie (surprise) and go crazy for a little chest and ab hair. That and I have folliculitis so I can't really shave

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>>40164680

I dunno, I think hairless is the best look if you are lean.

Really shows off definition.

A 00 is much less effort and the same effect as shaving, desu, you are right

>>40164651

I mean it comes down to personal pref, but refrene bimbos before and after pics...

>>40164725
GOD YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT IT MAKES ME SICK

>>40164765
He looks like if revoltech designed a human figure

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>>40164765

my photos nowadays are looking more decent no bully

only thing I don't like (that I can't change) is stretch marks. size, lack of lats, all can be worked on.

My delt insertions are supposed to be bad, but they don't bother me, and I don't plan to compete, so who cares

>>40164804

i wish all those figures have ridic. v taper

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>>40164853
>ridic. v taper
Lmao
You have to use that angle to even see your lats
Kys

>>40164876

ok post your natty pics after 4 months of lifting and lets see your huge lats bro

>>40164897
Why would you purposely shave your nipples into a gyno shape

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>>40163104
>Run 60mg epi for 6-8 weeks imo. Coupled with cardio, cool dude mineral Supplements and ubiquonol you should be one lean doggy with a nice heart.

Thanks bimbo. Sources appear to be running light on epistane so I might test the waters with var for now and use epistane once I can stock up on it.

I'm not as knowledgeable about bp mitigation techniques as I'd like to be, so it'll give me a good amount of time to do some reading so I feel comfortable with it and understand the underlying mechanics behind your advice.

>>40163139
Yep. Best 3D

>>40163327
Which country do you live in? No way I can imagine this happening in the USA unless you just happened to find the coolest cops in existence.

>>40163350
see >>40162860

You'll find people who subscribe to the lift for at least 2 years before-hand type of idea and those who started roiding after mere months of lifting. Post age and body fat %.

Why are you in a rush after only 9 months?

>>40164853
Nice man, mirin. Did you see my post a few threads ago about the other info that comes in the bloods?

I'm so very curious about your natty T levels. No way that I'm doubting your weaponized autism has lead to your extreme levels of commitment and dedication following masT's advice but I feel like I just wasn't able to shed fat and retain muscle at the rate you did with 275 ng/dl with a good discipline in diet and high intensity lifting.

>>40164853
>it's a "let's cover my love handles with clothes and hope they don't notice" episode

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>>40165028
>Nice man, mirin.

>>40165028

>Epistane tested at 61.3% purity; according to /u/janoshik is due to the same impurities present in his reference sample but at roughly 20x the quantity, resulting from old and/or improperly stored raws.

Seems to be a common issue specifically for epistane

Tfw gonna spend my saturday going to a fucking video game tournament out of claustrophobia and boredom while everyone else is fucking bitches

>>40165028
you have shitty taste

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>>40165076
Yeah, exactly. Apparently one of the China raw sources had a bunch of it that they got tested at like 99% (not an independent test though lol) but it's all sold out. One source had mentioned that they'll get it in stock within a week or so - will wait on anecdotal reviews or purity tests before stocking up. Shit's expensive based on other sources' historical price lists but I trust bimbo's judgement/evaluation of the worth of the drug.

Read somewhere (maybe the same thread you are quoting from) that epistane or perhaps one of its clones was alleged to convert into a different, illegal hormone when stored improperly (which is what people suspect led to stane being made illegal from previously being legal).

>>40165108
Shitty taste in women? Maybe. Women are a meme though so I'm fine with that.

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>>40165083
why are you such a beta bitch, what with constantly seeking validation from others and complaining the very instant you don't receive it

waaaahh im spending my weekend going to a video game tournament rather than fucking loose tinder whores

give me a fucking break

>>40165156
>Women are a meme though so I'm fine with that.

>>40165163
>what with constantly seeking validation from others and complaining the very instant you don't receive it
wat?

>>40162855
I do not use steroids because I am not a faggot.

Real men don't use -- or need --steroids.

If you use steroids, you're just a failure of a manlet and should just kill yourself.

Steroid users are just another kind of skeezy drug addict; you can tell by the change in their personality, and how irrationally they defend their addiction.

Steroids give you gyno.

Steroids will kill you.

Steroids make you rage uncontrollably.

Everyone can tell you're on steroids and they don't respect you because of it.

Steroid users look like circus freaks; who in their right mind would do that to themselves willingly?

Women don't like guys on steroids because they know they'll probably get beat up by them at some point.

Women think guys on steroids are 'too big' and don't trust them -- and they're right not to. Everyone knows steroid users are out of control druggies.

Steroids are illegal in most countries and you're committing a felony if you have them or use them. Even in countries where it's not illegal if you're drug tested you'll lose your job for using them.

Steroids make you gay; it's been scientifically proven.

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>>40165163
>not mastering the art of the blade instead of having premarital sex
smdh

Cut down from 189, down to 163 natty, used dnp for 3 weeks low dose and lost 10lb pure fat. Took a month off and maintained that weight, now im finishing off my supply of dnp currently, but I've been the same weight for the last week with no changes. I know with dnp you go mainly off of how you look, but i feel like i look the same. Is that resistance shit real? Doesn't feel nearly as dreadful as the first time. Goal is just 145, feel like i should be able to make it easy.

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>>40165057

If u read my cbt posts I told everyone flat out that I pulled up my boxers to hide both my love handles and my stretchmarks

here's an angle of them

u think I really gonna try to decive ppl here after blogposting about the stuff I have posted that is just insane levels of cringe?

>>40165028

I did, but you said we won't even know according to female hormone panel.

I think I will do it when I am one month into bulk, because I am sure my fucking hormone levels are lower than normal now

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>>40165182
What if you are a girl?

>>40165182
>Steroids make you gay

Bimby would have to agree

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>>40164853
HAHAAHAHA he's bigger and more shredded than people on steroids

KEK

no wonder that everyone is mad

good job man, respect

>>40165207
i thought about it and i would literally fuck a hot/feminine enough trap

like my brain does not see anything "bad" or wrong with it, and it actually seems hot

lol

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>>40165165
>lul i havent been avoiding everyone in my life because im ugly with these glands and autistically venting about having to do so on a japanese imageboard where we share frogs

xdxd

>>40165183
who said anything about premarital?

>>40165207
Depends on the trap.

>>40165204
They'll turn you into a lesbian.
If you're already a lesbian they'll turn you straight.
They'll make your tits disappear regardless; you'll be flat as a board.
You'll end up looking like a disastrously poorly done transgender operation.

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>>40165190
In >>40135959 I said you won't know free test. But they'll tell you total test (or sometimes referred to as serum test). In addition to that, you get all the stuff I mentioned in the post. You'll see everything you're getting when you order the test.

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>>40165229
Jokes on you she's already all of those things

>>40165220
>>>lul i havent been avoiding everyone in my life because im ugly with these glands and autistically venting about having to do so on a japanese imageboard where we share frogs

you realize this is one of my literally only sources of human contact right LOL, i have nothing better to do which is why i am going to play a 2001 CHILDRENS PARTY GAME AT A FUCKING TOURNAMENT WITH A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARD NERDS, if i had better shit to be doing i would be, trust me

>>40165229
>They'll make your tits disappear regardless; you'll be flat as a board.

i bet when you were younger your parents called you dumb.

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>>40165211

one day, one day

and on that day I will decide do I blast and cruise for life?

It will be a decision

>good job man, respect

This means a lot mast, thank you.

>>40165156
What does it convert to?

The same middle man raw source being tested in that quote (was quite some time ago now) now lists the purity on their site. Epistane reads at 98.39%

Almost all of their stuff has independently tested quite good (I only remember epistane coming back low in the threads)

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>>40165220
>who said anything about premarital?
Whoa, wasn't expecting /wholesome/ in this thread. I'm feel like I'm only anti-woman on fit. On pol I try to encourage people to get married to women within their race and raise smart kids the traditional way.

>>40165182
I love seeing this b8 evolve. Next step is to get a nice infographic type of thing put together.

>>40165270
>>40165156
>>40165241

Someone pill me on the real advantages of epistane over all the other orals.

>>40165245
IF i tell you, you gonna make it YE FUCKING GONNA ME KET

if you blast/cruise with the same dedication and willpower with ease. Even with cycling

If you really want it, you gonna get it. Most give up before trying. that's why they have nothing to be proud of and are hating on others

I'm glad I started meme'ing epi again. Good quality drug shelved before its time.

>>40165280
>>IF i tell you, you gonna make it YE FUCKING GONNA ME KET
not natty, lol

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What I miss

Is Chem in jail?
Fatlifts ever get a gf?
Does Jerry still fuck those anime doll pillow things?
Cunt get married or deported?
Anyone finally make it?
>>40165284
Epi is a cunt of an oral. Worst crippling pumps of my life. Almost want to take it for this contest prep but Im leaning towards winny.

>>40165288
o yeah i forget, no with your shit genetics of course

IF I TELL HE GONNA MAKE HE GONNA MAKE IT

>>40165300
CHEM is make my bank. I hung out with FL today. Everyone is healthy. Stick with epi for contest prep.

>>40165284
Tell me a story about epi pls

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>>40165278
see
>>40156329
>>40156428
>>40156469
>>40156522
>>40156554
>>40163104

and then ask bimbo any questions you have left.

>>40165317
New goal.

>>40165280

Yeah, If you REALLY want something, you try as hard as you can. Or you didn't fucking want it in the first place.

It's a good feeling MasT, warm fuzzy feeling when I read this one

>respect

Just wait and see, I have been eating like an anorexic, soon it will be time to make some gains

I'm gonna make you proud bby

>>40165330
Epistane is not a prohormone. Originally a designer steroid developed in the 60s, shelved as it had no practical medical application. Patent ran out in the early 00s and supp companies made bank cloning the potent hormone.

>>40165354
>Its like tren

How is it for packing on dry/lean mass?

Sounds like a kick start for DHB.

Have you compared it to sdrol?

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>>40165326
Would you run orals all the way until the day of the show?

Im thinking of just dropping test and staying on tren and mast through the entire prep because I also got a second show 4 weeks later. I dunno though.

>>40165326
>I hung out with FL today
What did you guys get up to?

>>40165372
I like it better than sdrol. No weird sugar issues. Mass is probably 15lbs on a strong bulk at 60mg.
>>40165383
I would run it up through the show; use it instead of var.
>>40165420
We grabbed some coffee, talked life, did dabs. Played D3.

>>40165441
Did he finally lose the fat?

>>40165463
Actually he looks really good.

>500mg dnp
>can stay in supermarket chiller and be comfy all day
>end of shit
>congested nose, sneezing pretty much non-stop hurting my abs

WHAT THE FUCK?! DONT TELL ME THE DNP DOESNT ACTUALLY PROTECT ME FROM THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF THE COLD

>>40165441
15 is a lot if its dry

>fucks joints and bp
Reasonable dose of wet compounds or allowing test to aromatise mitigate the joint issue?

>>40165472
Did any females

>L O O K

At him?

>>40165479
It doesn't stop the expectorant effects that breathing artificially cooled recycled air is going to have on you.

>>40165500
Yeah only all natural air right

>>40165505
lol something like that. Freon free? Free-on?

OK. The worst part of this nigger shit, is how the glands fluctuate, mostly night to morning

I will go to bed like OMFG they are almost gone, and take 30 selfies, then wake up a chipmunk looking kim jon ung faggot.

So it is like how retards delude themselves by lying to themselves to let them sleep at night. "I'll stop being a fat fuck tomorrow and diet" "im a useless fag tomorrow ill look for a job"

Except the glands are lying to me

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Sup degenerates?

Glad to hear FL is well. Did he actually get laid?

>>40165234

Hmmm, alright. I'll consider it. I am sort of curious to know what they are.

I hope they are 200ng/l and when I get big some day I can wave the bloodwork in people's face LOL

Where do I learm about fashion for when u are roided up

/fa/ is just fuckboy shit that looks retarded and is designed to compensate for being a skeleton

>inb4 ex-model not knowing shit about fashion
They just give you what to wear when u get there

>>40165190
Would you please stop posting your disgusting autistic face and skinny ass body here??

>>40165698
Classic masculine attire:

White tees
Dark denim
Boots
Henleys
Fitted sweaters
Leather or denim jacket

>>40165746
>denim jacket
Manly? Wat

>>40165773
Village People is manly

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>>40165773
Works well for me

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>>40165746
>Dark denim
>Boots
>Henleys
Pretty much what I wear 3 days a week at least. People ask me all the time where I bought my cool "dexter shirt" lmao

>>40165872
U are fucking 6'5 250lbs 2% bf or whatever the fuck u could wear a pink fucking tootoo and it would work

But I have this new denim jacket and it makes me look fat as fuck. If I wear it, it kind of hangs straight down from my shoulders/chest/back and gives the appearance of me being obeast

I think I need to break it in or whatever so it is less stiff

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>>40165995
Lol
>>40166057
I mostly just wear naked or sweat pants DESU

>>40166084
>I mostly just wear naked or sweat pants DESU


As low test I used to wear oversized sweat pants 24/7 like a retard

I am rich as fuck, and would literally have shitter clothes than people on welfare. Just cheap oversized tshirts, sweat pants, hoodies from walmart. Old man shoes. I guess I was dressing my hormonal age.

I now have angst against wearing garbage clothes

Need it to be warm already so I csn wear tight ass t shirts instead of fucking jackets everywhere

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>>40166084
I don't have any closed collar Henleys. They are all three button. I like to show off my fur hahaha.

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>>40165441
>did dabs

>>40165698
only wear tanktops and shorts EXCLUSIVELY CMON

Anyone got any experience with melanotan 2?

I'm up to day 7 and in the last 24 hours I've turned full ethnic. Colleagues are accusing me of using solarium's or fake tan.

I've stopped using it today, how much darker am i gonna get? I look like an extra in a fucking fetty wap video

>>40166806
How much were you pinning per day? You're not supposed to bother dosing high unless you're "make an Irishman look dark" pale.

>>40166841
.5~1mg
I was certainly pale before but now on a scale from 1 - africa I'm about brazil.

>>40166865
>inb4 deported cause of melanotan
MAGA

Currently at 12% Bodyfat.

2 weeks on

300 mg test
600 deca
400 EQ

Is it possible to cut to 8-7% bodyfat? As long as I'm in a deficit I won't put on fat, amiright?

>>40166938
thats a dogshit cycle to be on for cutting bro, take the deca and eq out , up the test to 600 , add in masteron and anavar , tren if you are experienced.

>>40166947
Thanks for the advice. If I take enough tren, can I cut and bulk at the same time?

>>40166947
Wasn't even me who replied why would you up test and have all that estrogen store fat, when decs and eq convert slower

>>40166981
test isnt anywhere as near of a wet compound as deca and eq because both deca and eq give the added problem of progesterone and prolactin.

>>40166993
Have caber on hand in case and aromasin for e2 just want to run a 1k deficit then keep the same dosages and reverse bulk

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>not wearing gucci

>>40164608
Lol that pic

>>40165300
I doubled down

>>40167266
>these pants
>dat price
Someone shoot me in the head immediately.

>>40167266
>>not wearing gucci
>posts versace
OUT

>>40167266
are these on sale in your country?
cause they are freaking cheap

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Faurk nigga joocy.

>>40167266
I wonder if they stretch enough for squats.

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>tfw tempted to buy a tuna pasta (520 cal packet, 36g protein) instead of peas and kidney beans (100cals 8g protein per 100g) to go with my chicken breast
>urge is prolly cause im on 500mg of DNP and have 4500+ metabolism and only eat under 2k a day


FUCK THIS TEMPTATION SHIT!

>>40166947

masteron and anavar are 100% useless if you're not legit 10% bf or under.

why the fuck would a fatty take a COSMETIC fucking drug? what next? winstrol on someone who's 16%?

>>40167688
Get both, it'll be like tuna casserole without carbs.

>>40167701
Mast has it's uses, both for mood and it's affinity for SHBG, but otherwise, yes.

>>40167706

but i can't LIVE without my chicken breast every single meal!

Any of you brahs ever taken prozac? Did it help with the depressed feels?

>>40162855
What to do when cruising and going on overseas trip for 10 days familia, test only

>>40167831
Any Test that has an ester that begins with U.

>>40167831

pin twice the amount and just carry some AI on a very small medicine bottle/container

>>40167840
Is this legal to bring with u on planes

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Hey gays

I need a good routine for my girlfriend. She lifts consistently but just does a bunch of memestagram workouts.

My ex trained herself so I never bothered learning what her routine was baka. Want current gf to get hardbody like ex.

>>40167897
saw this tip in another /fraud/ thread:
buy an diabetic kit and just put pre-loaded pins inside.
or even re fill and insulin vial with your juice.

>>40167950
Any program a male would do.

>>40167950
is that the one you cheated on?

>>40167897
Just conceal it in your checked luggage don't be a pussy, it's foolproof

>>40167828
taken: yes, help feels: meh yes but slightly, nothing for the long run

Is there a go-to place for IM pins for yurofags?

>>40167950
lots of squatting, homeopathic amounts of moderate volume low intensity upper body work with focus on core, shit load of cardio both liss and hiit

add 5mg of var and light calorie restriction as you see fit

>>40168034
your local pharmacy

>>40168034
some yuro pharmacies give out slin pins literally a dime a dozen. not the best way to go but hey

>>40168093
I'd rather get them online.

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>>40162855

What do you guys think is calum von mogers usual stack like?

>>40165340
If i tell you that i believe in you, i believe in you

>>40167950
How does it feel to fuck someone with such legs, she could fucking break your dick with those legs. I mean i like thick legs, but not with muscle.

I don't understand why girls should have muscle, not my thing but everyone has his own fetish.

Is her ass also hard?

>>40168164
You're fucking retarded, did someone already told that to you?

>>40168034
>>40168118
bought them from an online pharmacy which had multiple pharmacies in my city
just ordered it to be shipped to one of their outlets and picked it up.
got exactly what I wanted and saved shipping.

tried to just ask at my local pharmacy but they were asking questions like what they were for(so they can help me buy the right stuff),
but I didnt want my local ppl to know so I just did it the way I did.

>>40168176

Dont you reply to my posts you delusional piece of shit.

>>40168194
I am here to tell you the truth fucking faggot. I you can't handle it with your beta cuck genetics then gtfo

you're the same faggot that thinks if he copies someone routine he will look the same. LMAO talking about being delusional right

Is ELIXiR a decent UGL?

What's the most reputable UGL?

>>40168207

you are dumb as fuck thats the worst, i wasnt asking because i want to copy his stack you delusional piece of manlet trash, i was simply asking out of interest you dirty cuck.

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>>40168164
>What do you guys think is one of the last true poster children of contemporary natty bodybuilding's usual stack like?
"no"

How do you guys deal with the jacked up libido

I can't function when I want to fuck everything

>>40168273
You are fucking retarded if you fall for one of the most obvious masT baits.
Like what is his secret ? how does he make you fucking fall for this low quality shit every time ?

>tfw seeing people on other boards discuss /fraud/ themes but can't be arsed to reveal my powerlevel
>people get recommended 50mg/wk test c as the holy grail to fix their r9k-feels
>whole thread praises them for the wise advice, memes created in his glorious honor

Then again, still being a huge faggot at six times the amount in test e while still lurking reeee boards shows mine isn't working either kek

>>40168354
... m8

>>40168433
>>40168442
>>40168456
Listen asshole, respond to my fucking post
>>40168412

>>40168442
I'll never understand the universal dosage recommendation.

Like 250 for a guy who's 5'5" and 130lbs is gonna blow up. A full grown man might get cut. A guy who's been lifting consistently and heavily for 5 years might enjoy some better recovery.

>>40168476
Change your tone immediately, we're not google and you're not entitled to my attention. That said, I just fuck the gf regularly and actively try to behave myself otherwise, it's not rocket science. Now kys.

>>40168479
My point exactly, it's idiotic. But still, 25mg test c twice a week will barely have their balls finally drop from their pelvis, let alone turn them into Squarechin McSteeldick as they oh so boldly claimed.

>>40168507
Listen asshole, I don't have to take this shit,
I was lifting 2 more plates than you in my hayday
Now I'm just lifting for a toned belly

>>40168507
>Squarechin McSteeldick
dibs on band name

>>40166993
Boldenone is not a 19-nor steroid

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>>40168517
Lower the dose, you seem a tad aggressive. Libido might not be your only issue.

>>40168561
Nice try kid I'm not even roiding

I'm just a natural high test

>>40168479
>Like 250 for a guy who's 5'5" and 130lbs is gonna blow up. A full grown man might get cut
you're a fucking retard lol

>>40168574
You're most of all annoying. So, disregarded for the remainder of the thread.

>>40168608
You have autism, I'm sorry I'm first to let you know.

What do y'all use for on cycle support?

I got tudca but got told to grab n2guard for good measure?

>>40168581
>Everyone is the same!
>All labs dose perfectly!
>We all do the same routines!
>YAAAY

Yeah, I'm the waterhead alright.

>>40168581
Spotted the manlet.

>>40168652
you thinking dosage determines whether someone is gonna "blow up" or "cut" shows how little you know about anything

what changes between people is the concentration in the blood depending on how much blood there is, but even that isn't a good basis to recommend dosages because people can respond to exogenous doses of testosterone anywhere from 2x to 10x+ (mg:ng/dl)

you're a retard

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>>40165668
>I hope they are 200ng/l and when I get big some day I can wave the bloodwork in people's face LOL

Man I kind of hope this is true too lol. A huge chunk of /fit/ (myself included) would be irredeemably BTFO.

>>40168714
idk what your obsession with the guy is

he could have 50ng/dl total test and I'd believe it. he has no muscle mass, he cut weight. that's it.

>>40167960
t. Guy who doesn't get pussy
Literally lmao if you think a guy and girl should have the same routine

>>40167961
Pic is ex, current gf doesn't have as much thickness baka. That's what I'm trying to fix.

>>40168054
I know my ex from that pic never really went heavy, pretty much just squatted 135-185 for insane volume.

>>40168176
Yeah her whole body is hard. I love it a lot definitely my fetish. It's like fucking a dude.

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>>40168779
But he says put on muscle over the course of the cut and at the very least hasn't lost any muscle (iirc he had no lifting experience prior to the 4 month suicide cut). As for the low test levels being unremarkable, I guess you might be right, but my understanding is that prevention of muscle wasting on extreme calorie deficits by getting enough protein and exercising with high intensity presupposes normal (i.e., not low) levels of testosterone.

Also I guess another thing that interests me about this situation is that I associate low test with higher levels of cortisol. Obviously there can be genetic/constitutional differences between different people's endocrine systems but in my model/understanding of adrenal function, in the absence of adequate test levels to keep cortisol production in check, you tend to get really high cortisol levels which leads to more muscle wasting and fat accumulation.

But if you (or he) are saying those results could be achieved with 50ng/dl of natty test, I'd need to re-calibrate my understanding of the underlying mechanics big time.

>>40168920
>my understanding is that prevention of muscle wasting on extreme calorie deficits by getting enough protein and exercising with high intensity presupposes normal (i.e., not low) levels of testosterone.
yes. but again, he doesn't have any muscle.

how about this, you can suck his dick after his first bulk (his 8% to 10% bulk lmao) if he does gain muscle and doesn't just go back to being fat

>>40169009
actually I should say after his first bulk/cut cycle

if he goes back to being 8% and doesn't look the same he did before the bulk, then you can

>>40169074
>if he goes back to being 8% and doesn't look the same he did before the bulk, then you can

Fair enough. I do agree with you that the aftermath of a bulk/cut cycle reveals more about underlying natty test levels than just a straight cut from a starting point of having no previous lifting experience.

Anyone have experience with homebrew and powders? This stuff is ridiculously cheap.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>40169252

Thank you for adding to the conversation.

I think im still in the denial phase of balding, TRT made it worse, I can still hide it with a comb over due to it thinning on the left side only, should I just shave it when it gets worse? I am 20

>>40169198
yes, we have a ton of homebrewers in here.

can anyone here share some routines for dosing creatine? like is a loading period like it says on the bottle necessary? want to use creatine for a few weeks before getting on anavar.

if my source only has anavar in 50mg caps, will I need to split it open and separate it into 2 25mg doses throughout the day or will 50mg pre work-out be okay?

thanks buddies. i know creatine is "natty" but you guys seem to know your science better than other threads

>>40169358
queensland wl recommends loading it, i'd avoid it tho, it's one extra thing passing thru your liver, if you're going heavy on the var (which will most likely end up being winnie) you'll be better off not using it, it will be nothing compared to var, or even winnie for that matter

>>40169372
thanks for the info. current plan is to just do 50mg/day which from what I can tell is not too heavy. source got it tested as var from jano @ 96 or 98 percent so i'm hoping it won't be too hard on liver (and i will keep track of hdl/ldl). given all this, is creatine still a waste of time?

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>>40168164
Chapstick, koalas, blankets, and snakes.

I'm pretty sure his sister wants to fuck him. She's pretty slutty but I'd do her.

>>40169445
wouldn't bother with the creatine mate, it's effects will be negligible next to the var

maybe take some tudca just to be on the safe side too, liver damage from orals isn't like alcohol, you will get fucked quickly

>>40169466
thanks for the insight dude. looks like I gotta research it better. from what I read real var is not liver toxic and only affects your lipids but if I need to take tudca I might need to re-evaluate my options

>>40169657
>from what I read real var is not liver toxic and only affects your lipids
all orals are hepatoxic, liver damage leads to skewed hdl:ldl values

>>40169466
>>40169657
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/04/sep04/092004/04p-0074-sup0001-02-Attachment-01-Demling-vol1.pdf

Intro:
>Oxandrin@, manufactured by Savient Pharmaceuticals, Inc., is an FDA approved anabolic steroid (oxandrolone) used to treat involuntary weight loss caused by acute or chronic injury, illness or infection.
>This anabolic steroid has the benefit of being metabolized by the kidney rather than in the liver, like the other anabolic steroids, making it safer for use in sick patients.

>>40169727
colour me informed

>>40169713
gotcha - makes sense that anything that you have to take orally gets processed by the liver. was thinking of using var as a precursor to my first blast but I might just cut natty before the blast if it's going to fuck my liver up lol

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What is the consensus on keeping your gains? I plan on running 1-3 cycles of Test E then stopping. As long as I don't go over the natty limit, I'll keep like 90% of my gains right?

>>40169713
>all orals are hepatoxic
>>40169727
>benefit of being metabolized by the kidney rather than in the liver

so fucking confused, just going to stick to test lmao

>>40169745
It won't. Liver damage from most oral is highly overrated.

Sdrol M tren and msten need tudca the most.

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Tf should I do for fun now that I'm clean?

I work, go to the gym, and get laid. That's pretty much it. I chill with my gf and do relationship stuff and then bang work slut on the side so I'm content sexually.
Also content with amount of time I spend at the gym.

Currently pulled something in my arm and it's my day off. Having an existential crisis. What do you guys do for fun? Before I was on dope I played vidya (loved final fantasy and the Zelda games on n64) and chased girls.

All my friends drink and go out which I don't do because it fucks with my sobriety. I think going out is dumb too since I feel like most people do that to try and meet women which I have no issue with in day to day life.

Pls help Kahuna

Sup ppl

>>40165601
No

>>40167950
literally whatever you're doing plus stair steppers and more squats.

>>40170037
play bf1 with me

>>40170037
Get a real hobby that isn't centered around useless shit.

>tfw self promoted coaching and now I'm 600 bux richer and swamped with clients
Crazy Fucking fun I love telling people what to do

>>40168809
Yeeeeeah currentgf does my routine + girlie accessories and it actually has worked out really well for her. She lost ~30 lbs, kept her hourglass, and her ass grew a fuck ton + chest muscle is pushing out her tits more making them look bigger, and her belly is totally flat starting to show the beginning of definition. I might slow her down a bit on the delts and traps tho.

Anyways tldr for a beginner grill any guy's routine is fine just add in more squats and shit for their ass like I said.

Also, play more vidya if you have time to be ultra bored. Or start a blog or some shit idk.

>>40169727
I have heard that anavar is easier on the liver than most orals. But over never heard of anything, steroids or otherwise, being metabolized in the kidney.

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>>40170172
Var

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>>40170143
I only have an xbox360. Tried dark souls 2 but couldn't really figure out wtf was going on. I think I broke my imagination.

>>40170148
Considering training a combat sport or learning the piano. I'd really like to get involved with starting my own business though. Maybe legitimately sourcing TUDCA or something? I had a few ideas. I like making money.

>>40170172
New gf lifts at least 4x a week so she's not a total beginner, she just does like weird 21s and shit that you see girls from IG doing that are mostly wasted effort. Pic related is her.

Also this is already my blog cmon, you guys are just posting in it

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>>40170208
Varrrr

>>40169358
no loading, take 5-7g whenever during the day, take it for life, stay hydrated, that is it

>>40170037
get side job as PT, start reading (optionally learn how to kek), find stupid shit that interests you. i have been sober for five years now, my days are literally just gym/work/gym/doing manly woodworking shit for fun/boink gf/sleep, ad infinitum every day.

>>40170305
thanks man, i feel like i'm more confused about var now with all these conflicting answers but i'm definitely feeling like creatine is a no-lose situation

i think i do understand why trips are needed here after all of this. anons can have a lot of conflicting/wrong views but trips might be more consistent and in line with science since you know they're using

>>40170605
Do the research yourself. And no, reading shit like this isn't researching. Open pubmed and start digging.

>>40170605
they just tend to troll less because they can be called out and remembered for it kek

make it a habit of doing your own research, we might be knowledgeable cause of experience but i reserve the right to still be a dumb cunt overall

>>40170037
You could get a motorcycle.

I fucking hate my motorcycle. I find five things wrong with it, fix them, and then I find another 10 things are wrong with it immediately after. Fucking exhaust clamps aren't tightening all the way and I might just need thermo tape and wrap the whole fucker. And the brand fucking new spark plugs I put in I can already feel one misfiring. Why can't shit just be perfect for a month?

Yeah. Get a cheap kawi/Yamaha/Honda that looks good. It'll keep you busy forever.

>>40170218
You said you had hooked up with Chem again? He still owes me some product from before he got pinched and I'd like to collect if he's in a position to pay out.

>>40170710
Same with older cars tbqh. I have one from 1975 and I have spent two thirds of the time I owned her (yes her fuck you) fixing and one third driving, still funnest hobby ever.

>>40170728
i don't think he cares fuckboy

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>>40168779

'No' you really think I had the level of lean mass that I do in before with not only no lifting experience but no sports or physical activity in my life?

I am aware that in terms of the fucking bodybuilding community I have no muscle, but be real, all the muscle on my body was gained.

I'm not saying it was a lot of muscle since I don't have a lot. But it was all gained.

I grew enough muscle in my back that I can keep my fucking spine straight, first of all. That's not cutting weight.

>>40169009

>if he does gain muscle on bulk

Everyone test levels, genetics, this, that

It totally depends on what you do. If you do a random uncalukated +1000 bulk of chicken nuggets and Dairy Queen and lift 3 times a week with no intensity, versus eating like MasT does and trying, results gonna be different

Guess which one I plan to do?

But you people actually look at those two guys with identical genetics and test and would say one is 'low test' and one is 'high test'

Lmfao, delusion.

There is an anon in CBT with diagnosed low test not on TRT that is just in general juicy

There is guys posting "progress" from 6 month PERMA BLaST and starting strength looking SKeLETAL LoL

With test levels of whatever 3000ng/l

>found ugly, ugly, 1/10 girl
>high school
>into anime
>seems really sweet

I hope this goes somewhere and she is dateable

Muh ugly weeb highschoolers

>>40170889
>the level of lean mass that I do in before with not only no lifting experience but no sports or physical activity in my life?
what lean mass

>>40170917

The minimal fucking lean mass on my body every ounce of it was gained all 16 of them LOL

Pretending to be stupid or???

>>40170889
At least the permabulking fatties have a reason for their delusions, they think they have a ton of muscle under their fat and they they're just one cut away from being swole.

You're a spooky scary skeleton and you somehow still manage into deluding yourself that you have any mind of muscle when your arms are 11 inches and the rest of your body is just flat all over

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>>40170972

Dyslexia general guys, Mirrin inability to read a fucking a post

You think I think these are big arms? No. But I look at old pics and they doubled in size while I lost like 30% bodyfat so clearly some lean mass was gained

My measurement whatever it is right now is better than my fatcep measurement when I started but people still going to say no mass was put on , lmfao

How do people buy MK-677 bulk? I hope to keep myself in a cheap, steady supply of it.

>>40171043
chyna

>>40171020
>what is glycogen

>>40171049
Since this stuff is legal, where does one go to buy it from China?

When is a good time to roid? I'm 25 and been lifting for 4 years. BF is about 15 right now up from 10 over last summer

>>40169843
bump plz

Quick question, will injecting roids directly into my growth plate make me taller? Asking for a friend.

>>40171059

>glycogen

Ahahahhahah

Am I getting trolled or something? I am dry + fasted

I can go measure my tiny little chicken biceps since everyone is so curious. How is it done? Flex bicep, measure at biggest point?

>>40171088

After 2 weeks in the gym of doing SS and eating pop tarts so you can get a "nice" ottormode body for girls quicker

>>40171110
we get a lot of stupid questions but that has to be in the top 3 of the worst questions ever asked

>>40171110
yes, it works

>>40171069
Our resident meme shill Capitalist

>>40171102
If you work hard and diet correctly you can keep your gains. Most of them at least.

>>40169843
Yeah.

>>40171128
>I can go measure my tiny little chicken biceps since everyone is so curious. How is it done? Flex bicep, measure at biggest point?
yes

>>40170889
>that pic
Ugh

I love anime but cmon that is just lame

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>>40171290

I just cringe as hard as I want and it works

If I want to say something I just say it. Easy

People flame me because I don't pretend to be Zyzz, a capital offense in the fraud thread, you don't try to become zyzz you are a traitor

Gotta maintain that fake zyzz persona 24/7 guys! Don't be yourself, be Zyzz!

>>40171321
Just be yourself. Unless you're a piece of shit, then don't be yourself.

>>40171321
he says, as he quotes masT pretty much word for word

kys you dumb cuck

>>40171321
Idk anyone here that "acts like zyzz"

The people I like the most here (Chem, Brick, Bimbo, masT, swimmer, FL) are all extremely unique and act like themselves.

I think most people here are more interested in finding a good life partner and aren't really into fucking whores.

Personally I just come here to cope with my mental illness and have people tell me I look like shit.

This is a good discussion I'm curious why you think there's pressure here to act a certain way. Be yourself, the message I was making fun of earlier just seemed so lame and forced. And the whole "I'm coming to fuck you right now" also comes across as forced.

>>40171385
please don't interact with the local retard

What's the cheapest place to purchase MK-677 within the US?

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>>40171321
Nobody talks like zyzz

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>>40171385

None of it is forced sometimes I just in different moods and I treat different women different ways

Anyways, biceps dry and fasted measure somewhere between 14 1/4 and 14 3/8

HELP ME CUNTS
If i'm gonna run a 10-12 week first cycle of test E 500mg/week, and proper post cycle, how much $$ should I expect to spend?
I realize you usually send first cycle fags to /r/steroids but fuck reddit I'd much rather have your help
thanks

>>40165028
In the UK bra

>>40171553
$175.

>>40171553
if you have to ask this you don't have a source

so how about you find a source first then lookup its prices

>>40171385
I'm not unique I just make bad choices.

>playing with iphone predictions let's see what I can make

>she doesn't want other men but I don't let her leave the house
>she's like a queen of sass but she's not really cool
>I said that she's not going to be alone because of her being obnoxious
>yeah I guess she was just talking about herself and she's not really cool
>I told her to come and she came

>>40171616
>>I told her to come and she came
same

>>40171627
>she's like a lesbian that is a lady

Comedy gold I love this algorithm

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>>40171616
hey bimbo i just wanna tell you i fucking love you dude, you're a fucking sunflower mate. you're beautiful.

>>40171616
>roiding giant red headed Australian porn actor that cosplays anime occasionally
>not unique

Sorry buddy you're just as uniquely mentally ill as me

>>40171708
>>>>Australian

is this thread too old to contribute my story

>>40171708
Im American tho

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>>40171701
Hey you're neat too have this

I have read the wiki

Age: mid-40's
Body fat %: 10 Visible abs, visible striations in shoulders, back, and legs.
Time spent lifting: 3 years consistently in current run, 12 years overall. I currently lift 4-5 sessions and run about 12 miles per week.

6' / 190 and at 1/2/3/4 for 15/10/5/5 reps., but I don't DL as much these days.

Advise me fit

MAGA

>>40171808
What do you want though?

>>40171720
What the fuck I've literally believed you were Australian for years. Was always surprised how awful your sleep schedule must've been.

Yeah I guess you're not that unique, carry on.

Any of you American faggots in NJ? I've been up here like a month and a half now and could use some friends. Swimmer where you at m8

>>40171616
Plot twist: iphone prediction is deep down a confused 50s husband kek

>>40171752
Fuck

I'm so pleased and tomorrow is our fuckfest and crafts day ugh

>>40171856
>posted her ig
probably didn't wanna do that

>crafts day
lmao gay

>>40171856
Whoops!

>>40171856
>tfw could now stalk bimbo ex with my l33t h4x0r skills
>tfw too lethargic from dnp and ronalds to even care

just my luck

>>40171825

I want to go longer, faster, harder. I want to be >200 and sub 10%. I want to be closer to my younger strength levels.

bless me with:
1. 2/3/4/5 (1RM ea)
2. less pain
3. more endurance

My head is there, just not my body. Just put my mind back in my 19 yo body please.

>>40171870
Nah nbd she knows she's posted here and she's asked why I don't post her work IG. She wants the follows.

>>40171914
her address or work address is on her page tho.

>>40171877
Thats a very lewd work uniform.

>>40171921
Yes because people come see her at work and then tip her 20 bux on a 5 dollar drink.

She has internet fans drive like an hour just to do this. You aren't the first weird person to "stalk" her.

>>40171930

bikini barista

>>40171914
so why'd you delete

Cardarine vs clenbuterol?

>>40172126
kill yourself

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Am I impressive again yet?
Almost at 230lbs
6' 3

Heavier than I was before I relapsed and you faggots always said I looked great then

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>>40172145
This one is before relapse
I think I was like 220lbs

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>>40172157
Here's I think right when I was using for a little bit maybe like a month into relapsing

>>40172157
Nigga how tall are you, damn.

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>>40172178
Versus another from now. I think I'm much thicker now at the expense of a big diff in vascularity too

>>40172145
>6'3
>reading

I was 180lbs looking like that at 6'1

>>40172139
There's the put up m8. Not like I had a try anyways. Never even got the weight down, so what about if you do?