/fraud/

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I think running a bunch of DHT (150mg proviron 50mg mDHT) with low test+tren/mast and 3mg asin ED is fucking with my e2. Go figure.

Think I should drop the AI or change it to EOD? Kinda weird given I aromatize easily.

>>40173838
DHT will make you lose hair much faster then test would. Be ready for that.

>>40173838
Change to EOD and then see how sides are after a week or two.

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Current gf bicep

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>>40174170
Ex gf bicep
I think she had better insertions + womanlet genetics

Dubs gets FL a job and a gf

>>40174629
any numbers and he starts fucking an anime pillow

DUBS FOR GF

>>40174938
reroll dubs for sadness and solitude

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>>40174718

In4 hardstyle and homebrewing tren

yo guise, is it bad to run Letro without test as a base? i have gyno from puberty, and want to try Letro only to try and reverse it before I actually start my first cycle

>>40175302
retard

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>>40175302

>>40175302
sigh
Ralox

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>have qt redhead breeding material GF
>Saved pics are only NSFW

And I could've been a tit-spamming tripfag...

>>40175625
>>>/b/

get the fuck out of this thread you worthless piece of shit

no one cares

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I've been looking into running gear for non-gainz purposes

I'm a depressed faggot bitch and want to see if injecting man juice in my butt will help improve my situation

Don't misconstrue my words and meaning

Is there any merit to this idea for the purposes of anti-depressant , anxiety , motivation

I'm at the point where I'd just smoke meth just so long as it gets me where I want to be.

I'm attempting to illustrate my desperation as clearly as possible

I know you friends tend to ignore posts like these but any feedback would be great

>>40173786

>cycle off ec one day
>1200 calorie breakfast
>still hungry

who's secretly dosing me with meme kek?

at least bulk shoudld go nice?

>>40174718

man Im so sick of girls

gonna date one just so i have an excuse to stop online dating and shit

beep beep goes my phone

at the gym, beep beep

trying to shitpost, beep beep

HOW ANY OF YOU LIFTING FOR GIRLS GUYS STILL GO TO THE GYM AFTER 4 MONTHS OF NOOB GAINS LOL?

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>>40175694

>>40175694
man Im so sick of your faggot ass

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>>40175767

I just wish I had a fast forward switch for the two years it takes to beat your god king's superdrol +tren pics natty and come back to shitpost about it desu

Is MK-677 worth it? I've heard people say it's only good if your growth plates are still open or something.

I tried it once for a short while, and while I do think I felt abit more pumped (maybe placebo), I can say with certainty my complexion was alot cleaner and younger looking.

Does it help any in any other real way or is it just a GH for looking better?

>>40175806
You're the only one in these threads that refers to Zyzz.

>>40175820
Does it actually aid in fatloss at all?

>>40175625
>he doesn't have enough agency to add black squares on MS paint

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>>40175829

I just think it's everything that's bad about "bodybuilding".

Drink, party, eat cakes, drugs, roid to look natty as fuck and offset the lolnogains from your "lifestyle"

The bigger I grow, the more shit I can talk.

I'm hilariously bigger than Zyzz before he started using gear- so I can start there, since he just did the worst fucking job and is the lowest hanging fruit.

Don't know how long of bulking on rice and chicken natty and not drinking or doing drugs it will take to beat catpiss Perma B+C + exotic compounds + pizza + booze + dnp pics but I'm looking forward to it

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>>40175897

Like, how about u decide bimbo?

I'm not the most dyel trip in fraud anymore.

Didn't need roids or even to eat to do it, just actually go to the gym and put in some effort

catpiss next

>>40175897
>>40175929
>I'm hilariously bigger than Zyzz before he started using gear- so I can start there, since he just did the worst fucking job and is the lowest hanging fruit.
good lord kill yourself

Is it common to break down and cry rather than to rage on tren?

>>40175692
If you have naturally low testosterone levels then it will actually help quite a bit. Otherwise nope. Get a blood test and if it's low for your age hop on the gains train.

>>40175929
I think you're lean with good insertions. You do you.

>>40175969

t.fangirl

look at his "physique"

beaten in 4.5 months of starving myself and actually lifting weights

but zyzz life, drink drink drink paty party, roid to look natty

on steroids routine is like 100 reps 5 times a week

mirrin work ethic

>>40176005
end your life

>>40175002
post the gif of the japanese girl sitting on the floor with a vibrator suit thing behind a screen in a room full of oblivious japanese dudes

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>>40176025

look at his fucking routine lamo

why use gear to look this tiny?

imagine the shit I can talk when I btfo that natty?

but nah haha we all gonna make it

make it to roiding to look like aushcwitz survivors

>>40176158
didn't read

end your life

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Eating ass is great why didn't I get into this sooner

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>>40175897
wait what about zyzz at all looked natty, are you retarded?

>>40176158
he doesn't even have his tattoos in that picture you imbecile

>>40176158
you are an idiot
google Zyzz height
that's just a weird angle/ photo technique
Zyzz was massive

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Hey /FRAUD/, got a couple questions that are aimed at experienced roiders.

What should I expect from a 10-12 week cycle of Test-E? And what (if any) benefit would PCT do for me?

Is it going to actually help me come off cycle and maintain most of my cycle gains?
Or will things be rocky, and end up leading to another cycle?

I'm not against the idea of doing another cycle, I just want to get a general idea of what to expect.

I would just like to be more comfortable with this decision, as I am uncomfortable with the thought of doing a cycle, then PCT, and having deleterious effects/losing gains.

Thanks for the input, muh dudes.

>>40175692
Maybe try giving meth a chance?

>>40176189

>didn't look natty on cycle number 7 of sueprdol and tren in such large quanitities it killed him

mirrin

check his pics first day he pinned

>>40176198

that's cycle 3 or 4?

>>40176202

no one understands I am saying I beat zyzz's pre roid pics

not his fucking 7th cycle

I am retarded not delusional

>>40175692
That's exactly why I hopped on test e 3 weeks ago. I of course, lift, but what I was mostly hoping for was a confidence/mood boost and a drive to accomplish my goals. Didn't help and wasn't nearly as good as I was hoping in this regard. Starting to put on some muscle though which is nice, but I probably wouldn't have done it had I known.

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zyzz vs arnold

https://bodywhat.com/?1=mtn21jvg&2=x61705t3

>>40176228
>>check his pics first day he pinned
it is rumored that he started pinning basically the same day he stepped in the gym, what do you expect?

>zyzz
>cycle
pick one

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>>40176217
10-12 weeks is dumb. Run at least 16 for benefits, the extra few weeks won't make an ounce of difference in PCT but will make a world of difference for gains. You'll keep gains. Kickstart with an oral for sure. The official "beginner/light" cycle by Kahuna;
Weeks 1-8 75mg adrol
Weeks 1-16 500mg Test E
12.5 mg aromasin every third day
Cycling is for pussies and I don't recommend it but if you insist on trying a cycle that's actually worth it with no sides that's how you do it.

Also smoking meth is not worth the literal headache it causes, IV meth is the only way to do it proper. Pin 1/4 gram straight in your arm and your good for ~4 hours, just make sure you have some xanny for the come down. I usually just pop a few Librium and sleep it off. Meth is fucking dope but the comedown is the worst of all drugs imo.

>>40176251

he lifted for 6 months then roided

you guys know I have no problems with roid use right?

especially since I always mirrin mast and bimbo and tren anon and ghandi?

I just think it's stupid to pin when you have like zero idea what you can do without going through the hassle of fucking with your endocrine system

also, all the biggest roiders lifted for like years before they started roiding. look at mast. bimbo.

and then you see people on gear and it's like if you saw them in real life you'd have no idea at all they were on roids they just blend in

coincidence?

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>>40173786
Considering cycling trest, msten, dmz and epiandro at 110mg, 30mg, 30mg and 1800mg a day.

10mg nolva a day to hopefully keep from growing titties.

Am I gonna die? Or become a tranny? Or make massive gains?

>>40176266
kill yourself, you are fucking disgusting and make everyone want to vomit looking at you especially your face. zyzz was an aesthetic god even before roids

reminder to ignore and hide alex posts

>>40176217
>What should I expect from a 10-12 week cycle of Test-E?
you should expect a waste of time if you're actually going to go for 10 weeks. otherwise, this is an unanswerable question. you should expect gains?? also probably gyno because you don't seem to have any idea what you're doing

>And what (if any) benefit would PCT do for me?
the benefits of PCT are that you start naturally producing testosterone again...

you will keep your gains as long as you don't do stupid shit like try to cut during pct... or don't pct. you shouldn't bother PCTing if you're gonna do another cycle after though, just cruise until your next blast.

or really, don't, you have a lot of research ahead of you still

>>40176273

t.

>roiding for this

I always hillarious that there are anons here 210 lbs 5'10 5% bodyfat and actually srs people on roids that look smaller than me mixed in

just makes it hard to take ppl serious that don't trip because i don't know who im talking to or what they look like

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>>40176257
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
>>40176276
Why so hostile, friendo? Just asking questions.

college student. Been lifting for 6 years so pretty experienced. Convince me to take that further step

>>40176311
me telling you you have no clue what you're doing and that you haven't done nearly enough research isn't being hostile, it's me caring about your health.

>>40176332
no

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>try the whole no AI feels great meme
>on 500test/600tren/900eq
>acne on back and shoulders
>take forever to cum
>dick not as hard as usual

Well this is fucking gay. Guess time to get back on asin.

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>>40176332
Why not make that decision for yourself?
>>40176339
Fair enough. Thanks.

>>40176339

why not?

>>40176360

because im nervous about it, i feel like ill mess up something crucial no matter how much ive researched into it.

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>>40176364
So you want someone else to make that decision for you?
Off yourself, m8.

>>40175692
>man juice in my butt
HAHA YOU SHOUL...
>Don't misconstrue my words and meaning
...oh never mind :(

Get tested, if low report back.

>>40176395
newfag

>>40176302

Like pls, guys with noteable physique just trip? Because I am constantly worried I will talk some shit to someone that doesn't look like a tiny little fucking 110 lb twink like this loser >>40176273

Someone on roids that can post a pic of their body. on roids. LOL.

Doesn't seem to be a problem so far, maybe guys with decent physiques not fucking retarded >roiding for this imbeciles?

Look at Moosey 2 MONTHS INTO A CYCLE LMFAO.

That is what happens when you roid and work.

Serious how can you not make gains on steroids? Legit curious

>>40176269
She's a true natural beauty

>9 hours of stacking shelves while on dnp

I have never been so fucking worn down and in such a hostile mood.

I swear dnp has a massive extra multiplier to any "active" metabolic increasing activity (aka if it gives 50% baseline metabolism increase, a cardio of 300 cals is probably more like 700-800 on dnp)

>>40176468
the usually quoted 11% per 100mg increase is for the tdee, not bmr

>>40176486

yeah but it feels like thats only if you do nothing.

the amount of stress, heat and lethargy on doing a physical activity is so astronomically higher it can't possibly be just "50%" for 500mg if you actually did some hitt or did construction work.

>>40176533
again, tdee, not bmr

do you not know the difference?

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>>40176143
only because you asked nice

>>40176399
ok

>>40176566
hnng

>>40176566
i need to see the video

right now

>>40176861
+1, moar

if only for whatever muffled sounds she might make kek

>>40176892
i found this but its not much

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2944227

>>40176899
more than i ever hoped for, not to mention they seem to have found actual sauce

many thanks m8, you both saved and ruined the remainder of my weekend lol

>>40176924
where can you actually watch it i dont wanna make an account

>>40176432
If you don't eat you don't make gains.

>>40176966
have not found out yet, but a skilled friend is onto the matter, will report back eventually

>>40177642

Probably relevant to me. I read some bro science online that you need to eat at matiencne for a long time (couple weeks) coming off a perma cut. I'm gonna do it, and then bulk.

get big come on etc

>>40177704
well no broscience there, if you go from a suicide cut straight to yologetbig surplus your stomach and digestion will ruin you for the first week and a half or so, so the main reason for putting in a bit of maintenance eating is not suffering like a dog kek

>hurr durr muh hormonal and metabolism adjustments
not too relevant when not talking about single digit bf%, which I doubt in this case

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>hand hurts so bad

Any movement like bench press or ohP, this part of my hand has searing burning pain

Can I keep lifting do I have to stop? When I poke it it hurts badly

What's wrong?

>>40178745
Inflammation.

Take ibuprofen, fish oil and do cold/hot therapy of your forearm.

>>40178760

Thank you!

If I lift will I aggravate it or can I just grab my nuts and do my routine

>>40178773
It'll aggravate it. A doctor would tell you not to lift at all till the pain is gone.

>>40178787

Fuck

I don't know how jerry didn't blow his brains out how long he couldn't lift for?

>>40178809
Any lift that doesn't cause actual pain you could still do.

There's always machines too.

>>40178831

It gets aggravated doing curls lol

>>40178831

Yeah thanks for the help again I'm gonna do calves and an roller and bounce and some back work

>>40178854
Since youre already frauding, consider Ostarine, TB-500 and MK677.

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>>40178854
All curls or only straight bar? I can't do straight ones or any underhanded grip movements because my wrists hurt like crazy.

>>40178854
You should only ever do dumbbell curls.
Both straight and "curl" bar curls are awful for both your biceps and wrists.

>>40178892

It's me lol just remove name so I get advice, I'm not turning In natty card for .05 lbs of lean mass

>>40178958

It's not my wrist it's the side of my hand, those little ropes that connect your fingers to your wrist on one side, just a burning pain

I'm not fucking with it, it's been like 15 mins since I lifted something and it's getting worse on its own

>>40179015

thanks man

Arms lagging big priority

Triceps smaller than my abdominals especially big problem

Doing rope pull down dips etc

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How often and how much Aromasin should I take on a cycle of 500mg test a week? I'm gyno prone, had it since I started lifting.

>>40179093
If you're not getting bloodwork done, just start with 12.5mg E3D and look for symptoms.

>>40173786
will i need an AI for this cycle?
test 500e5d 16wks
eq 600 e5d 16wks
dbol 30mg week 2-5 and week 9-13

is it good running dbol like this?
bulking cycle

>>40179180
>will i need an AI for this cycle?
Yes.

>is it good running dbol like this?
No. Run it all in the beginning. Week 1.

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Anyone got a good source of DNP in the UK? Used to buy from 24DNP, but it's been shut down.

>inb4 you're going to die

>tfw dnp
>tfw don't feel like doing anything and no real appetite
>tfw if hunger starts raping my shit I can't even be bothered to eat my chicken breast and veg and just want some pasta or bread or something

What a miserable fucking experience, still only eating 2kish calories a day so im losing weight, I'm literally just counting the minutes till this cycle ends and nothing more.

>>40179311

>given a choice between cardio and dnp to increase his TDEE
>goes for the posion
>still such a fatty that he wants to eat bread and shit

>>40179340

>cardio

call back when cardio increases tdee by 2000.

>implying I even eat carbs outside of fibrous veg when I'm not on dnp

enjoy being hypoglycemic

I am a scaredy retard .
I want to run 50-250mg test a week.
I am researching how I can run test without busting my hormones like a retard.
Pls subscribe and up vote me as I fall into the world of therapeutical use of roids.

>>40179352

>ignoring the correct macro nutrient split for bodybuilding

Doesn't matter since dyel right

Enjoy being dyel

>>40179424

>t. nattyshit random who just lurks fraud for tripfag crap and finally finds an opportunity to post

well that's one of your life goals accomplished

>>40179382
500mg or fuck off

>>40179382
>how I can run test without busting my hormones like a retard.
You're going to bust your hormones regardless if you take test, no matter the amount really.

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Do you guys notice a drop in libido when using ralox for gyno?

Why are you hamburger so fucking full of cuckness

http://hewillnotdivide.us/

>>40180288
Everything that will lower your e2 will fuck up your libido.

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>>40173786
>>40175983
>>40176217
>>40176230
>>40176395

a follow up question for you friendly f a m s

What is the best stuff if one where to want to kick their libido in the next dimension ?

Not exclusive to juice but I would like to know witch compound would create a sexual emergence .

eg I've read that proviron has this sort of side effect

Outside of juice some things I've have good results with are ; sulbutiamine , adrafinil , tyrosine (and related) , yohimbine (good for a heart attack) , and arginine (obviously).

Anyone ?

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>>40180548
>yohimbine (good for a heart attack)
How so? If you take the correct dose, then you should be totally fine.
If it feels like you are going to die, then maybe you should not be taking stimulants.
Correct?

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>>40175625
>she doesn't send him self-censored lewds because she knows he's going to post them to his ((buddies)) on a mongolian horse butchering forum

why is she gf again anon?

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>>40180548
>Not exclusive to juice but I would like to know witch compound would create a sexual emergence

Really outside of steroids (including proviron) there isn't much for libido. The only other drugs I know of are pt141 and if you're willing to potentially fuck up your brain cabergoline may help. Libido is mostly a mental thing so it's hard to control. Sucks though because mine is so low even blasting.

When I was running TRT at 100mg/wk I had pretty damn good libido so for me it must be a problem with e2 and me keeping it low on blasts and shit.

I'm starting to get recurring dreams of me going bald

I'm not even losing any hair irl. I'm blaming you guys for this shit infecting my subconscious

Ay yo, if I work out now will my muscles be bigger / more swollen in an hour?

>>40181684
>what is a pump

>>40181731
Does it last 3 hours tho...

Anyone ever experience acne well after the cycle ended?

First cycle was amazing in terms if results and experience but after I cam off I spent 3 months fighting with shoulder and chest acne. Eventually zapped it was accutane but that's not something I want to run again,

>>40181734
>I've never had a pump in my life but I'm posting in /fraud/
wtf

>>40181875
NIGGA PLS

>>40181875
>getting suprised someone is ignorant in natty shitposting general

>>40175929
You're ugly as fuck, balding, have a pock marked face and a totally average physique. And you're better than him? LOL stop fucking posting your pathetic body

Pinned twice with Test E from a reputable source
Cellulitis both times
all sterility procedures were followed
What is going on??

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> hundreds of movies/shows imply that working in an office is terrible
> I'd love to work in an office but unfortunately I have an incomplete Engineering-Medical degree as opposed to an obsolete bullshit degree such as Business/Finance/Accounting

Three levels of Calculus and Linear Algebra doesn't count for shit without that piece of paper. I should've stayed in crime. The only thing I learned from college is that we should kill the elites and Hillary supporters.

> want to spend all saturday night making deliveries on foot
> but can only handle down to 40 degree wind chill long term then my fingers fall off
> solution comes to mind...

DNP

>>40174113

Not necessarily. Pretty much every study in existence has indicated that DHT is good for hair but we've yet to find someone with the money or the balls to confirm it.

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>>40182065
> DHT is good for hair

To explain, men with greater testosterone and greater DHT have a full head of hair. There's no connection between DHT itself and hair loss. There is a connection between 5a-reductase activity and hair loss, which converts T to DHT, and is generally assumed to mean that DHT causes hair loss... if you ignore everything else.

I've absorbed insane dosages of DHT and, if anything, I've gained scalp hair as a result. The only clear correlations with hair loss I've recorded is Test-E and alcohol. Tren doesn't seem to have an effect. Neither does pure DHT. When I have some capital; I'll prove it, and will post it on here first I assure you. These anecdotes only serve to open your mind and consider what the information you've acquired actually indicate as opposed to what they're assumed to indicate.

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Just got a freebie batch of 100ml Tren A but I'm coming close to end of cycle.
Never run Tren before but I'm aware it's supressive to test levels. Should I continue current test levels or up it to compensate?

Also what would be the effects of running Tren solo? I understand that's a stupid idea, I'm merely trying to understand what would happen

>>40176266
You are a brainless fuck.
He was 100 kg at 6'3 height + shredded.
he was huge,fucking kill yourself.

>>40181753
takes some time for your hormones to settle so that doesn't seem unreasonable.

>tfw throat dry and hurting during dnp and clen

this fucking faggot left traces of dnp powder on the fucking container, now I get a slight spicy burn whenever I eat these fucking pills.

I don't know if that's why it hurts, my tongue also gets dnp on it but it doens't hurt so maybe not.

>>40179180
You would need AI for the test only cycle, you'll need a lot more since you're adding dbol. Shit makes you aromatize like crazy.

>>40182065
Working in a office is terrible, but it's either that or selling your muscles and penis online

Get your fucking shit together, you got a gift but you're letting it go to waste. Wake the fuck up. Do whatever you think is necessary to achieve your goals and stop looking for excuses. NOW IS THE TIME, NOT THEN NOT TOMORROW, NOW

>>40182237
he was ever huge, especially for the shit he used; 2 grams of tren-e etc.

The only reason you say he was huge is because you're small

>>40182585
afaik he only was on test prop/ace for his first cycle and then some other cycles with test/deca.

>>40182585
I like my office job
Literally no commute, lots of money, brainless monkey work

I better get this promotion though
I was backstabbed over the last one
>women

>>40182159
>if you ignore everything else.
What is being ignored by saying that the action of 5ar-reductase being the conversion of T to DHT (increasing the DHT to T ratio in natties) means that the 5ar-reductase correlation with hair loss is a sign that DHT is connected to the hair loss?

Very interesting idea of yours. Could be that you just have no MPB genes expressing. I do know that DHT is supposed to be good for the health of beard hairs. Do you have any memes for good hair that you use yourself?

>want to work in an office

Have you considered going into law? To me it seems like you do have an interest in policy and philosophy. I wouldn't rely on your posting here to try and judge your verbal skills but if you know that you have good command of language then I'm sure you could figure it out. I think you had mentioned earlier in these threads that you were quite exceptional in the classes you did complete. That's all law requires - diligence.

Love of the truth is also a great motivator in law. If you find untruth just disgusting and always want to keep learning, law gives you a pretty nice exercise to feel that catharsis of getting to the bottom of something. I mean don't get me wrong I am of the opinion that working in an office is terrible - the days are not as glamorous as it looks like on TV and in some fields (law is somewhat notorious for this) office work means really long hours indoors. And even if the absolute proportion of your hours in the week taken up by office work isn't that high, the remaining hours aren't the most usable. They are kinda insipid hours.

Might be a case of grass always being greener but there's a reality behind the wage/salary-slavery meme. Not that it's horrible, but if it doesn't evolve into self-employed master race or passive-income master race then it's tough for the long haul. Have you heard of or read the Myth of Sisyphus?

>>40182159
so theoretically it would make sense to keep the test dosage low and take DHT for gains and to avoid hair loss?

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>>40182642
>women
jerry do you ever sometimes unironically think that living in a place with absolutely no women would be paradise? I sometimes try to think of a reason it wouldn't be so but can never think of anything.

>>40182383
dry throat while using dnp is a sign of dehydration, not that you're getting dnp powder on it lol

>>40181630
You have the first symptom of going bald It's because you're dreaming you're achieving.

Everything starts with a dream

>>40182611
Then you're misinformed. He was on tren, test, t3 and clen year round. Look it up

At the end he was on 2 grams of tren ace each week. and now's head dead for being a fucking idiot using rec drugs while being on clen alone is fucking insane let alone all the other stuff

>muhh heart disease
kek

>>40182642
same here, but doing the same shit over and over again get's stale after a while. Sometimes, after work. my mind is like in the matrix and i am not even aware which reality i am currently in.

How were you back stabbed? no alpha man lets his back stabbed

>>40182720
>Sometimes, after work. my mind is like in the matrix and i am not even aware which reality i am currently in.
some real autism shit

Thinking about being a wage cuck for the rest of my life is very depressing. It's a endless cycle of cuckery

I don't care about anything but bodybuilding. Even when i am doing something fun i am only thinking about how i could even bigger

I AM A MISERABLE MAN, DON'T LOOK AT ME

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>>40182763
masT do you think you could make your personal training into a sustainable job? Your focus is only on getting big - therefore you will not have to leave that focus if you could somehow make other people big for your job. Just look at the effect you've had on Alex - some people will really latch onto your mindset and determination and use it to better themselves. Some people require that from outside - and will rightfully pay money to experience it.

How long does test-e keep giving you gains after you stop taking it?

1week, 2weeks, 3weeks?

>>40182693
Besides the end of babies I see no downside
They should be kept in subjugation as baby factories
Their current existance is just to run through dicks anyways

>>40182720
The senior dept lead chose some girl before the whole process began
Shes certainly not superior to me
Some bs goin on

>>40182947
>Shes certainly not superior to me
Ofc she is. I bet she gets hit on 100x more than you do.

How do you explain that unless she is superior.

>>40183041
Because shes a woman and society is constructed to let women overflow with cum

Hey guys, have any of you run EQ by itself?
I'm thinking of starting off with 150mg test, 450mg EQ, then 600mg EQ by itself, then back to 150 test and 450 EQ, then 150mg test by itself until the EQ's half-life elapses.

Louie Simmons says he's been on EQ for decades, but I haven't heard any other reports.

>>40181931

My physique is not even better, that would Mean we have to talk about proportions and inserts and shit. Let's not go there

It's just bigger and leaner.

Does it matter if I didn't need superdrol and tren to get there? It's still bigger and it's still leaner end of story

One down. Next up catpiss.

Al this rage about my shit that has nothing to do with bodybuilding oh boy am I laughing ahahhahsh

First day in the gym I looked around and I thought to myself 'why would I even need roids to beat most of these physiques?'

And I thought wouldn't it be a nice hobby to just BTFO them nattt? Let's start lifting.

And months (LOL) later I am proving that you simply do not need them.

Yet you still mad. Why mad? Stops bigger than you, I'm bigger than stoya, you on blast and cruise? Stay mad.

The madder you get the funnier I find this.

Fraud is interesting

>take roids tons of Them
>no one even aware you been to the gym in your life looking st you
>respected trip
>respected opinion

>natT
>diet not pizza and cake and cookies
>BTFO 95% of bodies here natty
>hurr hurr wahh wahh

Look at the physiques here. Brick, catpiss, like how you can even guess those guys are on steroids unless they told you?

This should be called 'Roiding to look Tiny 2 anons MasT and Bimbo general'

I wanna start my first cycle soon, is it possible to bulk for half of it and cut for the other half of the cycle?

>>40183242
You think you have the audacity to talk shit about other peoples bodies while you look like absolute dogshit yourself?

You keep saying "heh yes I'm a dyel but natT and masT are jacked so checkmate". How about you come back to this general when you're actually bigger than Brick and catpiss so you've got something to prove instead of hiding behind other peoples bodies.

God your trip cocksucking is on another level

nerd

>>40175981
Yes

But we never talk about that side effect

>>40176202
Why do you all say he's massive when he's fucking tiny and always was tiny?

>>40173786
Skinny fat and I've only been in the gym for a month. I want to use gear at the 3 month or 6 month mark, why is everyone so against it?

>>40183413
depends on the test you buy

if it has a "B" written on it, it is for bulking only.
if it has a "C" on it, it is for cutting only
vials with "B/C" test is pretty rare and expensive, but can be used for both bulking and cutting.
just get some of "B" and some of "C".
you will save tons of money

>>40183421
Post your body big guy. Lets see how massive you are

>>40183414

> How about you come back to this general when you're actually bigger than Brick and catpiss

Why brick is big, because 25" arms? The only thing he ever posted?

I can become a natty powerlifter, just drive to mcdonalds, never do any cardio, don't need steroids, get 45" fatceps and come back and have beaten brick.

I don't even need to go to the gym to beat brick frankly.

Honestly he is already beaten by merit of my shoulders by wider than my hips.


>how about you come back when you beat catpiss

How about I shitpost the entire time I'm beating him lol? u mad?

4 monts of noob gains and I'm getting some confidence.

I thought natty bodybuilding was hard because catpiss looked like a jello blob after it and now I just realize that it's hard when you're eating cookie and shit

>>40183447
I was going to answer seriously but this is a much better post

10/10

>>40183447
I was looking at Test E, didn't know it has B or C mode!

>>40183461

maybe if I eat enough cookies bulking and cakes I will too be unable to post a photo of me with my shirt off

should roid up for it LOL though

>>40182861
Personal trainer pays shit, or you must be someone in the industry which is really known and respected and can ask a lot of money for routines and diet plans

>>40182947
How is it even possible to promoted so fast? By the time you get promoted over here, you have sucked so many dicks you can make that your profession

>>40183527
do yourself a favor and dont inject bathtub chemicals into your ass

>>40183462
thanks :^)

>>40183461
Yes I'm sure Brick is more dyel than you and your 13 inch spaghetti arms.

The only thing you've achieved so far is cutting down bf and you're already talking like you own the place. And as a side dish sucking other peoples dicks because they're big.

You're the most judgmental and annoying trip in the history of fraud ever. Few months back you said "hurr masT I'll come back to this general when I'm as big as you natty" and you already gave up on that I see

>>40183432
Because you should have a much stronger knowledge base than that before hopping on. You'll get better results that way without risking your health and wasting a bunch of gear.

Thoughts on equipoise? I just wanna be strong mayne

>>40183606

>already gave up

Which is why I'm still natty still training though?

>only thing you did was cut down on bodyfat

Hillariius yeah all I did was starve myself you're right, and ended up with more lean mass than two tripfags

Almost unbelievable except there actually are people That dyel on gear

>even taking or caring the measurement of his arms

Doesn't matter at 30% bodyfat, at all.

Like I said I can get 25" arms in no time natty doesn't mean I would have a good physique

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>>40183242
>Brick
When you see Brick beside normies you realize how massive he actually is. He just isn't lean which doesn't help for solo pics.

>>40183736
>he's not lean so it doesn't count!!
-resident retard

>>40183724
You are a literal retard.
How many times you need to hear the same fucking shit over and over again to understand that he is a powerlifter ?
He is one of the rare trips you can rely on about knowledge.
Kill yourself fucking shit

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>>40183724
>and ended up with more lean mass than two tripfags
>>40183736
Wait, I didn't realize you actually believe you have more LBM than Brick does.

Ignore my comment you're just spazzing out.

>>40183761

I understand he's a powerlifter, he is an unironic meme going on about how he is jacked and ripped and looks great - direct quote.

>>40183763

who knows how much lean mass he has? it's all up for debate because you can't see any of it.

I posted some photos one month into lifting and brick flamed me and wrote some retard shit about how he looked better than me

on roids perma cruise + blasting and lifting for a year+

than a guy in the gym for a month

Now I look better than he does by merit of not being obese

didn't take much

>>40183760

resident fat ass

>>40175692
i did this 1 year ago, cruising on 180mg per week since.

for me: was not worth it, i am on only because there is no reason to come off , i take hcg ocasionally and my balls come back amazing every time so i can stay on for life.

as others said, if you ahve low t then it might help you, if your t is ok then you are better off lookin at some other solutions.

all in all tho: 1.5 years of test + ai costed me 300 euros getting raws from china and 100 euros for the hcg.

side effects: having to inject constantly nothing else.

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>>40183811
Just because you can't see a six pack doesn't mean you can't make a guess of how much LBM there is.

If we follow your logic we can't judge you either, since you're not terribly lean either assuming
>>40175929 this is you.

If it's just about how lean you are I'm basically number 1 here and could judge anyone. Mast is gonna have a hard time accepting that one.

>>40183841

If you're so fat your body looks like an amorphous jello blob then it is legitimately impossible to tell how much lean mass you have

How can you know?

I'm not exactly in contest condition but my bf % is at a point where I have a vaugly masculine profile so you can tell

>>40183876

Also If someone is so obese they can't post a photo without a shirt on then... why speculate about lean mass levels?

What are you even going to go by, his weight? I weighed more than MasT when I started. Clearly I had more lean mass than MasT.

Anyways I got shit to do see you boys tommrow xoxoxo

I'm considering starting my cycle before I'm done with my cut, to help me with the weight loss a bit. Would it be a waste to go on a test cycle knowing I'd cutting through half of it?

>>40183760
He's right tho. If you can't get lean it doesn't count.

>>40183841
Not really. We've have seen one picture of you, but i can tell iam leaner than that. The most leanest over here is that ghandi guy.

>>40183841
I understand you don't come around very often anymore, but you need to ignore alex posts.

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>>40183911
Oh, I didn't realize he was that individual.

>>40183909
What picture did you see of me where you're anywhere near as lean?

anyone else here want to just kill themselves by the time they hit 50~ (unless the drugs kill you first)?

I can't imagine myself being old, I fucking hate old people, whenever I see someone in his 60s or more just lugging around I feel equal parts disgust and pity.

I can't imagine having any dignity in that sort of existence.

>>40184212
I plan on keeping roiding and raising some bad ass kids while running my brewery. It's gonna be fucking awesome, being a jacked old man pouring beer I make and raising some young ones and trying to impart my wisdom and warn them of my mistakes

>>40183909
>b-b-being lean is for twinks!
t. Fat boys everywhere

Seriously being big without being lean is probably gayer than anything

>>40175692

I got bloods done, to check my test, i assumed i had low test cause depressed for 15years orso.

They came back PERFECT on the spot.

I started doing test-e cruisssseeee anyways.

I feel a lot better, i can get out of those depression valleys so much easier. but thats what happend for me.

250 a week

>>40183702
Thanks. I meant barring knowledge- I don't actually know shit about steroids obviously. I meant more so from a physical POV. Too high BF, too little muscle mass, shit form, increased risk etc?

>>40184327
what were the results of the bloodwork?

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You know what, I'm not even done shitposting yet

How you retards not understand what brick does? He flexes and angles and gets two inches from the mirror

Which 50% bodyfat fatceps that look smaller than my 10% natty bodyfat arms after 4.5 months of doing every single thing MasT ever said to do

If he cuts he will have no arms, and this retard has the audacity to flame a natty lifting for 2 months like he has any kind of physique

AHAHAHHAHAAHBA

Few more months to beat catpiss

Cookies + roids +cake= dyel forever

I will beat any cookie and cake eater natty given enough time and when I look like MasT natty I will hop on and
Show everyone here what happens when you listen to fucking MasT

Reminder if you are on gear and you look worse than I do after 4.5 months natty you are a fucking joke LOL

I wish people wouldn't name drop me. It's not as if I'm actually big or lean.

And fuck who ever brick isn't big or impressive.

>>40184418
Oh, ok.
Yeah, those are all probable. Shit form is probably the worst of those, and it adds on to the high risk of tendon damage. If muscles grow too quickly, then they'll outstrip the tendon growth, and things can start to snap. Add on bad form, and you're on a one-way trip to snibbedy-snap city.
Also, as a beginner, you don't really need steroids to get quick gains, since most of it is just adapting to motor patterns and stuff. So that's another reason it would be "a waste of gear". You're not really straining the muscles as much as you're straining the nervous system.

Overall, you want to wait a couple of years until you know what kind of training suits you best, how to diet properly (gaining, maintaining, AND cutting), how to do all of the lifts properly, what your goals are, etc. etc.

anyone in the UK, how easy is it to get bloodwork done? is the doctor going to be a prick about it, or will they just do it?

>>40184540

It was me you are both to me Bimbo

>brick isn't big or impressive

Wow no shit? He just has a big ego and impressive delusions

Yo guys. Had a birthday get together for my sister today and my brother in law made a joke about me being on steroids.

I'm a very bad liar, I was like haha noooo haha.

Welp I guess the truth is out and my family knows, they haven't said anything yet. Stay tuned

>>40184595
no one cares

>>40184587
*fuck whoever said he isn't he's great

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>>40184667

>15 months blast and cruise for this

AMAZING!

MIRRIN!

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>>40184667
>>40184684

NO WAY! you could just reach that """physqiue""" natty

TOTALLY warrants roiding!

>>40184615
>off topic steroid forum

>post off topic

>>40184567
That sounds reasonably, cheers man

>>40183841
Ghandi is the best looking poster, most lean, and biggest by far. And he's the only one that posts his body and competes professionally. No one else holds a candle to that or we'd see more comp posting. /r/bb has more big ass comp ready dudes than we do, head over there if you feel like being humbled for a few minutes before you get overwhelmed by the self plugging and fake persona retardation.

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>>40184684

The worst part is after posting about LIFtING FOR 20-30 HOURS A WEEK natty in SUPERSETS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK and hitting EVERY macro within 3% people will look at my progress here and say

"""WAHAHHAHAH GENETICS"""

LOL. GENETICS. GENETICS WHY YOU EAT CAKE ALL DAY AND LOOK LIKE SHIT ON STEROIDS

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

GENETICS MAKE YOU LIFT FOR 30 MINUTES THREE TIMES A WEEK

GENETICS MAKE YOU EAT COOKIES

L0L

>>40184820
>Ghandi
Haven't seen him, got any pics?

>>40184820

There are like 4 or 5 anons here that are FUCKING MASSIVE and shrdded as fuck.

So hordes of 95 LB SKELETON MEN ON STEROIDS THINK THEY ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PSA THAT ROIDS DONT WORK IF YOU ARE A LAZY FUCK

LOL
O
L

> No one else holds a candle to that or we'd see more comp posting.

THE only time you see posting is people posting shit like 'Bump on my glute' and you see their ZERO SIZE no SHREDS STEROID BACK

LOL

Just goes to show

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Fuck my dick is actually sore from jerking off for so long.

I should use tinder more often.

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>>40184920
>jerking off
>Tinder

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>>40184667

Hey so bimbo, when will you consider me "looking great"

Because I look 1000 times better, bigger, and leaner.

Actually have a v taper too, instead of a size 45 fucking waste.

I always looked in the mirror and I felt small, and I am small, I am dyel.

So I posted saying I was dyel and stuff.

But with the retarded standards here 'Everyone looks GREAT no matter how DISGUSTING their body' then I am a fucking olympia by now

But I am still 1000 times bigger than fucking brick with 90% BODY LARD.

I dunno, How big before bimbo considers me """looking great?"""

Tell me bimbo, Legit curious.

What do you want? When I am 5 times as big as brick at single digit bodyfat, will I be looking great? 10 times? 100 times?

You tell me bimbo, tell me.

How someone with less lean mas than me and 25 times the body fat looks better? Please, explain for me.

Here you fucking go

BRICK STATUS: BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

STOYA STATUS: BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

CATPISS STATUS: I AM COMING FOR YOU

I could just pin and lift for 16 hours a day and BTFO most of you in a month or two

BUT I RATHER DO IT NATTY FOR EXTRA LOLS!

TOO EASY TO BEAT THIS DYELs WITHOUT ROIDS

I WANT A CHALLANEGE, SO MAST.

TRY TO BEAT THE BEST, IM NOT HAPPY I BTFO SOME FAT FAGGOT POWERLIFTER KEK BITCH

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>>40185294

>autistic dyel legitimately thinks he's better than brick
no wonder all the good trips left or rarely post anymore

>>40185294
You're delusional

hey fellow /fit/bros...

i'm 38, been lifting 18 months, and want to run babby's first cycle out of curiosity. about to place my first order at CML, can you help critique?

plan:
> 12 weeks of 250mg TestE every 3 days
> ai: 12.5 Aromasin every 3 days. buy well over twice that in case need to EOD or extend cycle
> pct: 40/40/20/20 of 25mg Novaldex (i donno how im gonna break up 25mg pills into 20mg, can i just take 25mg?)

my order:
> 4x vials of 250mg/ml TestE
> 90ct 12.5mg Aromasin
> 60ct 25mg Novaldex

I'm buying enough test + ai that i could extend to 16 weeks should i decide to mid cycle.
> not gonna stack or taking orals. concerned about lipids at my age.
> not gonna cruise
> goal is to hit my natty limit quicker and chill there.

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>>40185386

>BEtter than brick

LAMO

THE ONE MUSCLE ON HIS BODY IS TRAPS BECAUSE OF ROIDS

YOU'RE BLIND? LOOK AT THE PICTURE RETARD

>>40185395

U mad I look better than some obese faggot after 4.5 months of lifting natty?

Because I'm not. better than garbage is SHIT. There are people posting ITT that look like THIS natty.

Why set goals SO LOW?

>>40185463
>THE ONE MUSCLE ON HIS BODY IS TRAPS BECAUSE OF ROIDS
oh, and maybe the fact he can pull over 600 FUCKING POUNDS

how much can you deadlift alex? oh, what's that? sub lmao3pl8?

LAMO. so delusional.

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>>40185019
I meant in lieu of jerking off use tinder.

>>40185561

>AMMOUNT YOU LIFT=HOW MUCH LEAN MUSCLE ON YOUR BODY

I DEADLIFT 2 PL8.

YET I HAVE MORE LEAN MASS. THAN HE DOES.

LOL.

So clearly your arguement retarded?

I am SICK of posting saying I am dyel (I am) when you RETARDS think BRICK ISNT?

What the fuck BIMBO. Why I get NO RECONGIITION from you when I'm bigger AND LEANER than brick?

Not even COUNTING that he is on steroids and I am not.

BIGGER THAN BRICK IN EVERY MUSCLE GROUP EXCEPT TRAPS IDIOT.

OBVIOUSLY. OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES.

Idk if you're trolling me? HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO and think I am not bigger than him >>40185294

>>40185650
>YET I HAVE MORE LEAN MASS. THAN HE DOES.
no you dont lol

again, reminder to hide and ignore alex posts

>>40185453
that's pretty much perfect my dude. yes you can do 50/25 instead of 40/20 if your caps are 25mg

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>>40185670

Idk I guess I'll just keep posting photos that BTFO him till you get your eyes checked

Stoya: BTFO

Brick: BTFO

Catpiss: Soon

Kahuna: eventually

I GoNNA Do IT

I already BTFO two trips

U mad?

>>40185733
>Stoya: BTFO
>Brick: BTFO
>Catpiss: Soon
>Kahuna: eventually
nah

>>40185692

Hide and ignore, hide and ignore, what you gonna do in 5 years when I post looking like this? Hide and ignore? >>40185463

>>40185453
>>40185692
oh

I should mention that the only possible issue with it is I don't think you're using pharma ancillaries. that would be the one thing you can fix. ugl ancillaries are usually underdosed (and very very rarely bunk). for your AI it shouldn't be an issue if you overbuy and just overuse whatever it's dosed as, but it can be an issue for your PCT

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>>40185768

Hide and ignore this retard

Closing in on catpiss soon

so i'm cruising and im losing 1kg a week on a cut, am i losing muscle? i'm starting to get super vascular on my calves and legs tho

>>40185792
you're gonna end up doxxed and i promise you won't like the results

>>40185813

my dox is out there fucking idiot

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Hey guys ordered that MENT ph so I'm going to start a log in a few weeks for science.

>>40185813

>this salt

No matter how salty you are I still btfo stoya and brick

And catpiss soon.

No matter how much you don't like me, It don't make me any smaller.

>>40175897
>>40175929

How about you sit the fuck back and wait and see what I do with first bulk and then cut?

BECAUSE I DONT EAT PIZZA AND THEN DNP TO CUT LAMO JUST EAT REAL FOOD LIKE MAST SAYS

>>40185813
>>40185821

my ip is in those pics and is linked to my facebook so friend request me or somethign?

I work ecommeace and desu I work like 10 hours a week now living off ETrade money

Would rather work zero, so do whatever dude.

you think I fucking care? About dox?

Oh wahha wahhh dox

Oh no wahha wahha

not the big scary 4chan hacker doxing me

>>40185862

or even better search archives for my dox? Lol?

Wah wahh not the dox!

>>40185804
What are you on?

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>>40185650
>I DEADLIFT 2 PL8

>brick
>dyel
>pulls over 600
>dyel

>BIGGER THAN BRICK

Take a minute to breathe, dude.

>>40185912

>post photos of myself BIGGER and LEANER than brick
>b-but he deadlifts more

YOU CANT REASON WITH NEW YEAR FAGS LAMO!

Photos of me bigger, AND 10 times leaner than him.

But he pulls some autistic number that is bigger than the number of some autistic lift so he's bigger!

Sure!

>>40185900
200/pw test e cutting in a 300cal deficit

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>>40185912

Daily reminder this guy deadlifts ZERO pounds!

Do research new years! Size=/=strength

I vid of brick benching like double bw lmao

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>>40185945

I dunno, I will be posting pics like this someday on roids and some fucking 100 lb guy will tell me I don't deadlift enough to be big!

MIRRIN BRAIN CELLS!

>>40185998
don't give him attention

>>40185294
You weigh like 150 pounds, shut up.

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>>40186008
>footwear

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>>40185998

And yet he still smaller than a natty after 4 months benching 165 for 1000 sets of 12.

Almost like powerlifting training isn't ideal for size bimbo?

I dunno, all I can tell you is to look at the photos?

YOu can not like me all day long it doesn't effect the pixels in any way

PS: How come you train in the hypertrohy rep range? Just get strong, then you'll be big!

40" waste and tiny arms. Yet he has more lean mass than I do?

'OK!'

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>>40186008
>>40185792
>>40184684

>>40186019

Ok I'll go to mcdonalds and stop working out and look like brick ON STEROIDS after enough of that

And then I'll be big because I'm heavy? LAMO. AHAHAHAHA

>>40186008
alex btfo yet again

>>40186058
If Brick cut down to your bf percent he would still be at least 30 to 40 pounds heavier than you. Because you're a skeleton

What advice would you give someone who is about to go on their first Tren E cycle of 400mg and 600mg Test E e3d

What AI and PCT would you recommend from personal experience?

Thanks in advance

>>40186075
stop fucking replying

>>40186075

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

t. DELUSIONAL FAT RETARD

""IM 300 LBS at 5'5" ALL OF IT IS MUSCLE!"

POWERLIFTERS LAMOOOO

""""I-IF I CUT THEN I'LL BE BIG""""

>>40186072

Idk, you keep "btfo" me, I'll keep training until I post pics that beat cat piss and kahuna one day

everyone's happy

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Alex looks better than me

>>40186132
Each week, not every three days, my mistake

>>40186132
I would tell you that you should already know what AI you need because you've already run test on its own and tren doesn't require AI

and that you should know length affects your PCT needs, but again, you should have PCT'd already and have some knowledge about that

and that you probably don't want tren E for your first cycle of tren

and that you want a dopamine agonist

>>40186132
>first Tren E cycle of 400mg and 600mg Test E e3d

That's a very hefty stack m8, what's your experience?

>>40186171
>>40186184
My last cycle was 500mg Test e ew for 14 weeks, I had aromasin and nolvadex for that cycle
I was just wondering if anyone would recommend any other types from experience as I have none with tren

>>40186171
Oh and I chose Tren E because I have to go away a few times during cycle but usually only for weekends, I wouldn't be able to take any of my stuff with me

Someone summon Brick to BTFO this idiot.
Most delusional fraud poster in history.

>>40186228
>My last cycle was 500mg Test e ew for 14 weeks

And you're hopping up to ~2 grams a week why? Just run 250 test/400 tren per week.

>>40186263
My mistake I meant 600mg Test E ew and 400mg Tren E ew

>>40186263
Is that 250 Test E once per week and 200 Tren twice a week? Or all on one day.

I want to run 250 Test and 400 tren but also throw in Anavar

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>>40186160

>implying that's what I said

No?

I look better than brick.

It's like I say 'I'm bigger than pluto' and you shitpost at me that I'm not bigger than the sun.

People are mad I beat brick and beat stoya.

I gonna make them mad one day when I beat catpiss.

stop shitposting

you ssrs in your head think think I don't look better than brick? you actually this deluisional?

I look bigger, leaner, and better than BOTH in, out of clothes.

You think I think I beat bimbo?

No.

You're just mad that the autistic kid you don't like BTFO your little butt buddy faggots on ROIDS after YEARS of "training" (working out 30 mins a week, eating cookies and cake)

Roids, cookies, cake, get BTFO by a natty in 4.5 months

>>40186374

The absolute first goal was to achieve a more asthetic physique than brick natty.

I did it.

Then It was to beat stoya on dbol, tren, blast and cruise natty.

I did it.

I am reaching my goals. You should be happy for me bimbo,

Next, catpiss on blast and cruise, EQ, DNP to cut so he can bulk longer, etc etc.

Natty.

*I WILL DO IT SOME DAY*

>>40186361
125 test/200 tren twice a week. Var is pretty great with tren but what are your goals?

who got US dnp source?

>>40186374
>>40186411

I can't wait until masT gets home from work and sees what I've done so far natty and in the years to come what I can do natty.

I am happy. One of the goals was for MasT to look at my progress and say that he respected it.

It happened.

One day, he will look at my progress and say he *ADMIRES* it, 5 years, 10 years, WHENEVER.

Big, big difference. and it will happen.

Stay mad people.

I make a lot of progress and look better than people roiding for years = people mad as fuck.

Hey bimbo, guess what? If you didn't want me to beat your dyel as fuck roiding for this friends, maybe you should never have given me advice????

Huh? You think of that?

you did this

>>40186416
Just come off a heavy bulk (Deca/Sus250) after I had major surgery, spent a month in Hospital so I ran a cycle to speed up recovery. It worked, really well. Looking to take that mass and maintain as much as possible while getting rid of a stubborn % of body fat since I cant do much running (Nerve damage from surgery)

I've run Test and Tren 2 years ago (250/200 pw), wanting to see what added fatloss would be with var thrown in. Also doubling the Tren to 400 pw if the var would even be necessary as Tren dries my joints out enough as is.

>>40186475
You don't need tren and var to get lean m8, you should have no issues with muscle sparing on just 250 test.

>>40186455
What? I literally don't care. It's great work dude. Maintain this drive, just c h I l l t h e f u c k o u t

Hey lads, anyone experienced with tren tell me a good dose of test to run with?
Currently 700 tren a 500 test e, some people saying I should lower the test to 300, any advice?

>>40186509
S T O P

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>>40186455
>Craving the attention of an egotistical maniac

>>40186501
To be honest Tren makes me feel like superman and after Hospital, recovery and running this sus250 cycle (Worst test flu and site pain) I want to run it for the mental/libido/leaning side also but just have never ran var before. My new source has it on hand, curiosity is getting the better of me.

Missus will appreciate the Tren libido boost too I reckon haha

>>40186509

>ec

Makes me erratic DESU sometimes.

I dunno.

I was actually never offended, on 4chan, in 10+ years of regular browsing until Brick told me that he looked better than I did.

I just thought it was obscene, that this guy after roiding for 15 months, thought he had a better physique than someone natty after one month or two.

And then he criticized my CORRECT training methodoldy, and bragged about the "results" of his "training" and how "good he looked" when he looked like a sack of shit stuffed in a trash bag, and just 1% better than me at that point.

So Imagine my satisfaction now getting to post, looking 100 times better than him, without gear, lifting for less time?

And getting pictures that any, any, third party would obviously agree 1000%?

It feels really, really good bimbo.

Stoya is a cool guy, I am just playing around, but I am still proud of beating his pictures. Because I think that's what masT wanted from me, to BTFO people on roids as a natty, just like he did, and I intend to keep it up.

Brick I actually do not like and it's good >>40186374
to make him eat his words with these pics

He has the wrong mentality, and that's why he looks so bad after so long and so many roids

>>40181967
If you get Cellulitis then all sterility procedures were not followed my friend. Make sure you wash your hands before pinning and use the alcohol pad thoroughly on the surrounding area. Also make sure your needles stay concealed until attached to the syringe, don't touch it against anything once it's uncovered.

Don't be a baka when dealing with pinning. Everything must be clean and isolated from any potential bacteria.

>>40185954
You probably won't lose any muscle, just glycogen.

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>>40186534

You think I care what women think? They have an FFMI of like 5. This shit don't mean nothing to me. She is just talking about my beautiful insertions anyways not something I had to work to achieve who cares?

When MasT says good job, that mean something to me.

When NatT says he has a good physique because "women like it" I simply don't relate.

I think the guy is fucking shredded and I always mire. But that's not legit. He is wrong for saying that is why.

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>>40186527
Pls respond

>>40186527
Lowering test can make tren sides easier, depends on the person. I would personally drop down to around 200-300mg and adjust from there.

>>40185692
>>40185778
thanks you guys. great info. where do people get pharma ancillaries (in us)? i'm not asking for a direct source, just a general idea. i dont know anyone in real life who could get them.. i figured my ugl source just imports the shit from somewhere. do they actually cook that stuff up themselves?

seems like they would be easy to score on the internet grey market since they arent really fun-scheduled. but i feel like i would trust that kind of anonymous source much less than a dedicated bodybuilding ugl with a strong rep.

>>40186733
ugls buy raw powder from china like they do everything else and cap it.

sources who carry pharma ancillaries mention it. you'll usually find them on online pharmacies though... you know, the shady indian/turkish clearnet websites. some of them are actually legit, you just gotta find out which ones

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Alright, I'm 19 and I'm set. Researched for over a year now. I'm doing it. Wish me luck. Or don't

Holy shit have you guys ever seen a girl do tinder?
No wonder im a single virgin
Fuckin sluts

>>40186733
Literally india

>>40186695
Will there be less gains though?
Or will 700mg tren pretty much max me out

>>40186548
Well var will definitely help with the creaky joints and getting lean. You won't need a very high dose of it, 20mg a day of good var will do.

>>40186779
As in it'll help with the combating how Tren dries them up?

>>40176158
Shut up faggot

>>40186772

jerry my ffmi is 20 and even when I was fat I did fine online dating I promise u if you shave and actually do PMSF you can't not lose it in 1-2 days tops

>>40186805
Right.

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Roid effects are definitely compounding to a degree.

At first nothing seemed to change much except the pump and constant horniness. Then my tolerance to volume exploded.

Now, in the last two months I look dramatically different. Like I took on a different shape, almost. Definitely q higher rate of change than the first two months. There wasn't this much change even when I was a true skeleton starting out.

Gonna stay on 250mg e3d until it feels like my body needs a real break.

>I'm still 15%bf though so no pics, you guys will insult me.

/Blog

>>40186896
Great, appreciate the advice mate.

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>>40186765
Good luck anon. Take your before pics, even if you're not gonna share them it's nice to see for yourself how much you've changed.

What're you pinning? Cycling? Got ai/pct?

>>40186777
More test would probably lead to a bit more gains but it could also rek you if you get sides.

>>40186895
He's not worried about fucking some slut.

He wants something that doesn't really exist and he knows it. That's why he delves so deep into his escapism

>>40186940
250 mg test e3d, going to cycle first time around to see how I handle it, definitely willing to consider b&c in the future. Aromasin 12.5 mg e3d

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>>40183242
>>40183461
>>40183811
>>40183876
>>40183901
>>40184504
>>40185294
>>40185650
>>40185792
>>40185847
>>40185945
>>40186038
>>40186058
>>40186374
>>40186411
>>40186455
>>40186557
>>40186647

what in the actual fuck, you might want to lay off the meth for a little bit

>>40186976
Guess I'll try 300 and taper up and see how I handle it

>>40187141

>people you used to think were big before started lifting

>>40187020

i assume like a typical autistic he wants an anime watching virgin gf?

they are there they are just ugly usually

>>40187221

also they're like 16 but jerry has no problem with that

he just need to man up and take what he wants

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>>40187141

>>40186647
Dude you are fucked in the head and not in a good way. Your face is unlikeable, you literally look like an evil movie character from the 80s because of how fuckig gross you are, yet you're in here raging against nobody about how dope you are.

YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE physique.

You are literally proud of being better than some dyel fsggots on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

You don't seem to realize that we all know these people that post here have pathetic physiques. But you aren't anything special and to top it off you can lift all the weights you want, any girl would leave your disgusting evil badguy face for someone that's actually good looking.

You're so delusional it's kinda scary. You come off as a rapist by your face alone and your poses are fucking weird.

Mast is an egotistical faggot who wouldn't last a minute in a real fight neither would you, so shut the FUCK up because nobody gives a fuck about your little quest for 4chan glory, faggot. Nobody gives a fuck that you think they are better than them cause you aren't on gear-- it's really pathetic that you think they do. You're disgusting.

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>>40187401

>>40187401

> any girl would leave your disgusting evil badguy face for someone that's actually good looking.


t. virgin

>ou are literally proud of being better than some dyel fsggots on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

Everyone starts somewhere bro

>Mast is an egotistical faggot who wouldn't last a minute in a real fight neither would you,

Ah ok so you're 12, I get it now.

> Nobody gives a fuck

MasT does

U think I care what some random 12 year old virgin thinks on 4chan lol?

>>40187141
Hes seriously surpassed JM level patheticness. What a strange fucking guy. Like, I can't really understand what would cause a person to act and think like this. And then there's glands.

Alex you're a fucking weird, pathetic, 4chan posting fsggot. You and glands should be best friends cuz you're both weird as FUCK.

>>40187432

>You and glands should be best friends cuz you're both weird as FUCK.

We unironically are probally each other's best friends

I like glands more than I like anyone else in the entire world

And I think glands just hates everyone and hates me slightly less

so yeah besties 4 lyfe

I like masT and NatT and other posters too but they are too sane for me, desu.

MasT not insane enough just inspirational

>>40187429
Here's the thing.

You're insulting me for being a virgin and a twelve year old, both of which are untrue.

I insult you for having a disgustingly pock marked face and disgusting looks which is confirmed via picture evidence.

You're a fcking weird, pathetic loser. You can call anyone here a fat virgin neckbeard and pretend it's true but the reality is you're actually a very ugly dude with a decent body. You can rage and try all you want but nothing's gonna change that but plastic surgery. Do you legitimately believe you are good looking? I'm a good looking guy and I don't brag about it online. You're gonna come back and call me a bullshitting virgin and dare me to post pics but I'm not a retard who would ever post his mug on 4chan.

You are weird as fuck man. Are you taking drugs? I get confrontational and irrational when I'm high. But you're seriously on another level of delusion.


How can you legit pull that everyone starts somewhere while at the same time being an insane retard who shits on others' personal choice to use gear? Acting like you're better for being natty is seriously a summer child thing to do.

Alex, you're ugly and weird. Both of these things are true.

>gear arrived
>suddenly have cold feet about starting
wew
I was planning to start TRT doses while cutting down so I could later blast into the sunset.
Natural test ranged from the low 300s to the mid 400s when I got it tested a few times over the past year or so, so I'm pretty sure it would be beneficial to me (if only for the consistency), but it's a big step.