/fraud/ulent activities

hah. cancer joke. also first

How is my brother so ugly compared to me even if he is fat as shit. Like his nose is fucking disgusting and he has that typical retard down syndrome white boy look but I am more italian

Pls be true my adoption theory

>>39982795
that sound you just heard was thousands of IIFYM fags reeeeeeing in unison

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>>39982886
literally second post in is already cancer. life has no inherent meaning, entropy shall prevail

DNP boys

Where can I buy ephedrine in Europe?

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>>39981556
Aw thanks dood.

>>39981599
>tfw glands was actually smarter than all the docs and specialists he went to see

It's a sad world we live in.

>>39981828
What the actual fuck lol.

>>39981853
He's natty, at least he claims to be. Big black dood, had some really great literature about natty vs roided lifting. Highly recommend. He's gotten where he is because of pretty similar ideology desu.

>>39982017
No one wants to put in autistic levels of dedication to look good natty besides retards like me. I don't even have the genetics to look god tier with the dedication I put into it, but fuck it I do it anyways because I like the idea of being the best I possibly can. I do it for the self mires senpai.

Anyways, my reasoning for why no one wants to body build natty is as follows.

Roid and work out once or twice a week on a push pull routine with 3 exercises and hit ripped mode ezpz

Or diet autistically, everything home made, count macros, plan meals, supplement food with oils and protein powder, work out 6 days a week or more for an hour and a half + each day on a home made routine designed and catering to your specific body, then push yourself with the dedication and focus a real coach would have you doing. Did I mention I'm 5"8' and I'm on "ez mode" for body building natty and this is what it takes for me? If ur 6 ft+ forget about it, lanklet, you're fucked. Roid or settle for husbando mode.

The universe is cruel.

about to start 15mg of ostarine ed. Should I stop taking my ephedrine?

>>39982972
>>He's natty, at least he claims to be.
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>Roid and work out once or twice a week on a push pull routine with 3 exercises and hit ripped mode ezpz
more like natty and work out once or twice a week for 3 exercises on starting fatass i mean starting strength

>>39982974
the only thing you should start taking is your own life

>>39982995
Honestly that shit blows me away more than anything I've ever seen here. How do people believe shit routines with 3 compounds a day and 45 reps total 3-4 days a week will make you aesthetic or look like you work out? I do more reps of heavy ass weight on bench press alone right now just trying to get my tits to pop out moar.

Btw can you like, continually pop your glands? Does it feel like popping a pimple with the obstruction that was there? Help me feel that magne. I'm interested.

If I decided to stay on for life, blasting with under 1g total of aas and cruising with trt doses, is this likely to cause significant health impact?

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>>39983048
SS is a meme, SS is a meme is a meme, I don't even know anymore. I got slandered like a jew during WWII while posting some of my routines while still natty, and those were "hm I'm on a cut and powering through two injuries I might take it slow"-tier in terms of volume and frequency. Of course a strength base is breddy nais and doing some lifting is better than not lifting but when I see people unironically expect to get shredded as fuark from doing less work in a week than I do just playing with my dogs I question a few things, pic related. Not to mention some believe that looks, fame and pussy will hail onto them like biblical plagues as soon as they hit a certain number of pl8s.

Who's got pics of lotus?

>>39983088
The problem is that people are expecting SS to do things it's not intended to do.
SS is a beginner's strength program meant to help new trainees get familiar with the main barbell compounds and the concept of progressive overload so they can get stronger without completely snapping their shit. That's it.
Cue a bunch of new lifters thinking that they'll look like Arnold after doing a beginner program. I have no idea why it happens... It's not like that in anything else. They weren't surprised when peewee football training didn't cut it for high school, and that didn't cut it for college, and that didn't cut it for the NFL (or insert whatever analogy you want here). Why would lifting weights be different?
On top of that, getting shredded is almost entirely diet, so they're not even looking in the right place.

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does the car door test work?

>>39983183
It's come to a point where I post roughly what you just said as bait, just because I know nobody will agree and everybody will drum their chests in rage.

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>>39983112
Can you not look through the archives?

Here.

Faggot.

>>39983070

depending on the blast dose it should be fine

Cruising on natural levels should be absolutely fine unless you get tainted gear or something

When people said mk677 made you hungry

I thought they meant like

hungry

I just ate like 40 minutes ago and I feel like im about 9 hours into a fast

I do NOT recommend this for cutting

>>39983048
>>Btw can you like, continually pop your glands? Does it feel like popping a pimple with the obstruction that was there? Help me feel that magne. I'm interested.
not continually but there were a few plugs, so like i popped 4 or so on each side. it was a sharp ass fucking pain, then a popping sensation and then my mouth flooded with a huge amount of saliva.

the smaller ones didn't feel like they popped, which makes sense since the imaging studies showed that only the two giant ones had a fucked up structure. i did get really fucked up tasting shit from trying to pop them though so they were probably blocked too just not as bad?

>>39983261
his bellybutton looks like my gf's arsehole. not sure that's something I can unsee, and if it's a good or bad thing for either of them.

>>39983311
meh weed munchies feel 5x stronger for me

nice jerrs

>>39983311
try dnp, at a high enough dose you will wind up binge eating 10k calories and vomit and still feel like you are starving to death.

i binged a couple times on it and most recently i had literally a whole fucking pizza, a sandwich from the pizza place, 6 cups of cereal with milk, uhh i think some random candy or something, and a bunch of other shit. then i passed out from the carb heat, woke up later and vomitted, and kept eating. lol. and i still lost like literally 24lbs in 3 weeks

>>39982894
I really wish I posted that sooner. I could've read all the butt hurt replies of anons contorting their little brains into a mess trying to figure out why I'm wrong.

>>39983311

All that bacteria infested saliva that was being filtered by your nodes flowing freely straight into your mouth. I hope to fuck you brushed your teeth and used mouth wash after that. That sounds so god damn satisfying though.

>>39983335
Your girlfriend probably has issues dude. Just saying.

What's the "minimum effective dose" for LISS cardio sessions? Would it be useful to do like 15-20 minutes of walking every time I'm in the gym, or is it important to do it for longer periods of time?

>>39983331
This >>39983383 was meant for you not cap trying to shill memek666 all anon like.

I need another cup of coffee fuck

FRAUDS OF SWEDEN
You can now get private bloods, maybe you were able to do it before but I wasn't aware
>werlabs dot se

>>39983383
never claimed she didn't. we do an insane amount of anal lately, she's a fiend

>>39983261
Can't. Post more please

>>39983418
yeah and then you probably get secretly reported for steroid use afterwards if your levels are above the intended 400ng/dl with the new water poisoning they do in the white neighborhoods

>>39983429
Yeah currentgf loves that shit too. Idk why, I'm not really into it but she fucking loves slapping a hitachi on her clit and having me fuck her ass.

Crazy sensitive in there or something I guess.

>>39983430
Fuck you go look it up yourself. If I start saving naked pics of men on my phone besides myself how will I possibly be able to maintain my straightness?

>>39983449
wouldn't be surprised if it all is a undercover sting to get frauders lmao

>>39983374

I actually did run dnp, I couldnt fast on it because I got nauseous and had cramps but I never felt hungry like this

>>39983473
don't be a chump bro post more

>>39983406
pulling this completely out of my ass but probably 15-20 minutes. i don't personally do anything less than 30 though.

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This guy is ~254lbs 13% bf at 6', and this is his routine on his current blast...

Is high volume a meme?

>>39984127
whatever boats your goat m8

although the one in the pic is a tad much

>>39983406
30min. minimum. Consider HIIT if you're not running an absurd stack that will make your heart explode.

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>>39984141
let's compare notes m8

>>39982795
>Candito doesn't lift for aesthetics though
that's the point you ape

he's a powerlifter who doesn't even lift for aesthetics and eats mcdonalds once a day and still looks great (by natty standards). if he decided to fully cut to single digits bf, he'd look fuckin amazing, it's just not part of his goals

>Let's be serious and do some critical thinking though, so I don't get my asshole tickled for just shitposting. Tell me, does a 3,000 kcal diet with 10% protein, 30% carb, 30% fat, and 20% sodium/sugar have the exact same effect as a 3,000 kcal diet with half protein, 30% carb, 20% fat no sugar no sodium?
again, no you ape, nobody is saying that

the point is that however you manage to get your PROPER AMOUNT of protein, carbs and fat doesn't fuckin matter. you can eat pizza all day every day and still reach your macros. "dirty" food is a complete meme and you're retarded for propagating it.

>>39984172
nah, am on mobile and related folder is on PC. I'd make an ass out of myself anyway heh

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>>39984213
>looks great (by natty standards).

i don't think he looks great by any standards... in fact i wouldn't even guess he lifts and neither would most people?

>>39984213
You'll look like a bloated mess eating 4K of Wendy's daily and worse yet you'll die at 50.

Look at Kovacs. Dude was notorious for eating only calorie dense fast food on the off season and it caught up to him. There are differences in food quality and how each individual responds to different foods.

>>39984108
>>39984164
Ok, thanks.
I currently do one half hour session per week. I'm adding another and maybe adding short sessions after lifting. HIIT aggravates my bad knee, so I've been avoiding it.
I'll be running TRT doses, so nothing that will make my heart pop.

>>39984231
I could easily make a 100% legit daily diet with only the mcdonalds menu and probably the only thing that could be close to a problem would be the sodium (shit nigga just drink more water)

>>39984252
Whats the deal with your knee?

>>39984213
We have different tastes in men senpai. I don't think he looks good though.

>the point is that however you manage to get your PROPER AMOUNT

My point is the fast food macros you get from eating that garbage are awful in comparison to things you yourself can make from a supermarket. More sugar, sodium, carbs, and fat than you need and your diet can be better achieved elsewhere 100% better and easier. If you're gonna quote me at least quote the relevant parts where I address what you said directly.

>>39984279
You totally could and you'd be dead in a few years.

Fletcher had his first heart attack in his 30s because he hinged on easy to acquire, cheap, calorie dense fast food. Same with Kovacs.

The same effort could be put into running a slow cooker all week while adding meats and veggies and startches periodically.

>>39984304
>startches

>>39984318
>autism

>>39984304
give me like 30 minutes, I'm gonna go eat then make up a mcdonalds only diet and you can explain why the spooky dirty food will kill me just because it comes from mcdonalds

brb

>>39984354
I mean enjoy being bloated and sluggish.

>>39982886
exactly how lotus can be bigger and look better than the rest of the population. genetics. they vary so much with your own brother, you don't think they vary even more outside your ethnic group. last time i checked the dude was 202lbs and never claimed any bodyfat percentage.

>>39984282
I injured my patellar tendon a couple of years ago, and it didn't heal back quite right. It was literally
>a terrible squatting accident
High impact exercises and certain angles make it achy or click a lot.

>>39982886
Based upon how you act, it's more likely your father is a cuckold and you got retard genes from your mother.

Sorry you didn't get bull genetics.

>>39984108
you can do 10 min. minimum to see some benefit, although if it's low intensity you should be doing it a lot longer

>>39984398
Arc trainer on lowest incline with higher resistance is my go to knee pain cardio. Use glutes and hams to move.

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>>39982972

I fucking laugh my ass off when when I say something, because I am dyel, it is wrong.

When you say the exact same thing, that IIFYM is bad, everone shut their mouths.

AHAHAH.

>>39982995

You were talking about delusion? Let me reveal my power level.

I wanna try as hard as I can and not drink for the next 5 years and count every macro and continue lifting with as much volume as I can right on the brink of overtraining

I am learning how much I can train WITHOUT overtraining.

We will see.

Moosey claims that he hit this body in one year natty.

I listened to how moosey said he trained. Superserset everything, no more than 60 secs bewteen sets, want your body to feel sore after every workout.

I'm doing what he said, and also autistic with my diet.

I have my fucking fingers crossed and truly believe that with training JUST like he said, and being autistic with diet, he can beaten.

I am so deluded I look at it and think '8 more months to BEAT it'

In my tiny walnut brain I really think I can do it.

As far as Mast 'Natty' '5 years of lifting' well, I will keep fucking trying as hard as I can with much autism as I can and see just what can be done in 5 years by a natty if they are autistic enough.

New photo boys, PUMPED. I'M COMING FOR YOUR ONE YEAR PIC MOOSEY WATCH OUT.

(Obviously, moosey looks 10 times better than I do, and he has no pump + bad lightining, but I have 8 months to go still)

I also have some cartlidge tissue in my breast, tiny bit of gyno. IMO, this will help me catch up the size of his pecs, he has no gyno, BTFO.

>>39983048

They believe that strength=size.

If you are dumb enough to strength=size, it's common sense. I mean, once you accept the premise that strong=big, then starting strength is ideal.

>>39984231
>>39984213

Mast= God

Mast says: Eat clean

Look at what FOUR MONTHS of eating clean did for my body

MasT advice has really transformed my body in 4 months, why argue with MasT?

thnk you mast

>>39984473
Autism. Jesus no wonder that one trip left.

>>39984473
mast's iq is about the same as yours

>>39982886
>>39984386
>exactly how lotus can be bigger and look better than the rest of the population
Steroids? For every fucking person like this who has a recognizable name from their physique there are 50000 people doing the exact same shit they are doing with the same dedication but minus steroids

>>39984473
Delusional

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>>39984473
can u like go away

>>39984490
so steroids are the reason you aren't as ugly as your brother? lotus has been training for almost 11 years now, since 16 and you think that he needed steroids to attain that physqiue? the most shredded he has been is 185lbs @5'11 and he stated he had to gain weight because being low bf was messing up his body.

>>39984492

i openly admit to it

bide your time

in 8 months when I look worse than moosey you can have your last laugh

for now, you have to sit and wait

>>39984484
>>39984488
>>39984505

aboohoo wahh wahh

>>39984488
masT seems pretty retarded but he knows how to get big, stay big and get lean. He also doesn't let trolls and haters get to him. He is a bit smarter than most give him credit for 2bh.
He does have a lot of knowledge about lifting, doets and shit though

>>39984544
>has been training for almost 11 years now
Love this meme

>>39984473
inb4 alex actually pulls this off and becomes the sickest natty cunt that ever was

as much as i loathe his very existence, that would have me laugh and cry at the same time

>>39984555
he literally doesn't lol

he doesn't have a routine, he goes into the gym and just lifts random shit. his "diet" is the typical bodybuilding diet of chicken and rice that he follows to the letter because it's easier to follow shit than to just think objectively

I'm curious what else he has a lot of knowledge about. steroids? nope, also a retard about that

>>39984601
what matters is DEDICATION AND CONSISTENCY BRUH

also he is a wee bit less clinically retarded than he pretends to be, believe me. not much, but alas

>>39984601
show us your results then mr olympia.

>>39984616
I'm not attacking his ethics and drive to get as big as humanly possible, far from it. I'm just saying that "knowledgeable" is probably the last word I would use to describe masT

>>39984651
well, he knows he NEEDS TO GET BIG CMON

>>39984544
Btw I don't even know what the fuck he looks like and the fact that u are parroting his excuses "omg I have been lifting since I was 2 years old" and that he trips and people thinks he looks good already guarantees he roids. U are probably thinking "wow butthurt retard he can't achieve shit without roids he thinks no one can", well u are in for a wake-up call eventually when u realize that anyone remotely remarkable physique-wise is on gear

Don't even know what the fuck he looks like, again.

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>>39984579
quite the meme
>http://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/36602073/#q36602715

>>39984684
>lotus' fixie bike
Oh the memories.

>>39984684
his weight for that time period screams natty.

if he even had been on roids for 3 months he would have done the 150lbs to 180lbs in half a year.

>>39984701
somebody who isnt new

>>39984706
four years later he is 7lbs heavier on a bulk and this swollen guy screams roids

>>39984745
swollen screams a lot, most of it barely sentient ape noises

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>>39984684
>at first I was like why do I lift just like those all natural youtubers and take their brand name supplements and still look like shit?
>then I was like "dude tren"

>>39984762
Glands chimps out more than the supposed "ape genetics" he speaks down on.

No wonder he's obsessed with cuck culture.

>>39984684
>DUMP STUPID GAINS GOBLIN GF
instant kek, every time

>>39984706
>>39984745
>>39984762
Pro tip if someone is roiding and wants to lie about it there is no set rule in the universe that they do not also lie about stats

Anyone who has touched gear in their life can instantly look at that pic I posted and know he uses fucking gear

>>39984684

So I'm just now realize that there is zero fucking correlation between Height weight + bf % and size lol

I am 168 lb, and like 12.5%? So my lean weight would be 147 lbs, 5'10.5

And yet lotus at age 17 looks not even twice as big, 100 times as big as me, but 147 lbs x .9 = 132.3 lbs lean weight at 5'11", taller than me.

What causes such a discrepancy? Am I literally big boned?

The photo where his lean weight is 147, say age 20-21, I mean, just lol.

AND he is taller than me.

>>39984800
Except he's short and black so....

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>>39984773
watch your tongue mortal. i dabble not in the world of dyel's but for you i make an exception. you have been warned.

>>39984813
>he is short and black so he is going to get the aesthetic monster roid upper body proportions

Take a look at pre 1930s (aka before gear) bodybuilders. Now take a look at this retard

>>39984819
LMFAO he even fucking lurks fraud and got triggered enough to reply

I have nothing against you, u are aesthetic as fuck, just retards fucking piss me off when they spew this bullshit

Gee i wonder why we don't have a bunch of random retarded kids looking like zyzz and jeff seid running around, hmmmm

>>39984819
nice try niggie. your gif is of an aryan man

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>>39984819
>
EXCITED FANBOY NOISES

>>39984800
>>39984834
please keep slandering him while he's literally posting ITT. make my night.

>>39984869
The thirst is real with this anon. I too am glad he showed up though.

>>39984806
God literally hates you that's why.

>>39984869
I am not slandering him you fucking retard. If I started trying to convince retarded kids that kali muscle is in fact not natural despite the fact that anyone with a brain can tell hes not, am I slandering kali muscle?

>>39984773

Ok swolen, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

You say you natty lifted without results.

Now you also say that you had low test levels.

Now lotus has been natty lifting with results.

But he has normal test levels, or presumably, I mean, much higher than normal, look at those photos

Testosterone= Good for gains, Ie, why you guys pin it into your ass.

So prehaps your lack of natty gains was caused by your testerone levels and natty lifting is not such a meme?

Everyone here says stuff like 'When I started using test I was happy and confident' 'I wanted to have sex with every girl I see that was not fat' 'I woke up every day with a smile on my face and morning wood' 'I'm hungry all the time' 'I had no anxiety aproaching girls anymore'

This quite literally is how life is for me, normally, because I do not have low T.

This is how life is for any male of normal test levels. You guys are like this because you treated your low Test with testosterone.

I wake up every day and I'm super excited to go to the gym and lift and well, one more day to try to beat moosey.

CONCLUSION:

Perhaps natty lifting is NOT a gigantic meme and it IS possible to make gains if you have NORMAL test levels?

The reason you made no gains natty was because of your low test?

Maybe just maybe everyone here that says natty lifting is a gigantic meme had low test? This is proven by their sudden changes in personality and outlook when they started roiding?

ANyways

>I try so hard to convince myself of this so I can BELIEVE I can make gains natty

I BELIEVE GLANDS I BELIEVE

>>39984834
If he is geared up he fucked up. Lotus has been on my ass for ages about how shitty I look (deserved). If he himself if geared up, he fucked up worse than I did.

Lettuce be reel, you're jelly.

>>39984901
Relax, faggot, we're all friends here. I just don't want you to talk shit about mai lotusfu.

Also Kali is one of the worst examples you could have used desu

>>39984910
stop

>>39984806
You're not 15% maybe

>>39984910
>Perhaps natty lifting is NOT a gigantic meme and it IS possible to make gains if you have NORMAL test levels?
STOP THE PRESSES

>>39984910
>>39984915
Can't tell if being trolled or if u are all actually this retarded. Can u try to rationalize in text how in comparison he makes the world's best bodybuilders of the pre steroid era, who were famous at the time for their aesthetics, look like shit, as a random guy who posts on 4chan, and then why not every random "short black guy" who lifts has his roided up delts trap chest and everything else?

>>39984910
why have you not imploded from sheer nonfunctioning autism yet

>>39984943
Why are you so angry?

This entire general is so shit now. What the fuck Brick

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>>39984947

>>39984929

ok. Yeah. I was thinking of losing 8-10 lbs to get closer to an acceptable body fat % to bulk. thank you.

assuming here I manage to lose only fat, that means I should be 9% at 158 then

>>39984934

well this is hotly debated here so

>>39984927

we're having a discussion and it's the opposing viewpoint summed up

i don't even want to offer an opinion on lotus's natty stauts, I am too dyel and too now to the sport, so I will just say 'I believe him' based on the fact that there is no 100% proof he used anything

my opinion sort of worthless here though

>>39984953
It is probably him samefagging trying to piss me off

>>39984953
It's like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but you can't.

>>39984974
Its not me I swear

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>>39984943

>>39984988
inb4 footlong alex post doing his own ffmi math

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>>39984988
>a number which is also probably made up is somehow more relevant than what he looks like

you are going to rationalize this somehow in your brain so that you don't get demotivated eating your protein powder and supplements, but pic related was 5'6 and considered the fucking "father of modern bodybuilding". lol. and some random kid on 4chan somehow makes him look like a dyel twink fucktoy in comparison. hmmm. you should realize yourself the implications of this.

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>>39984988

But how accurate is this FFMI stuff? my FMMI is "above average" and I looked like I never touched a weight in my life and look at lotus pics at my FMMI

Maybe bone structure is part of it? I am pretty big frame, my hips are huge (unfortunately) , shoulders huge, just big in general, only thing not big is my brain and my muscles

>>39984999

lol ahahah

>>39984988
GET ABLOCK YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>39985019
>>39985033
>>39984999
can't make this shit up

honorable mention:
>only thing not big is my brain and my muscles
thanks for the cheap chuckle m8

>>39985019
Mine was 25 natty and it's 28 now.

>>39985019
FFMI 20 is possible, seeing how you are literally anorexic but lifting high volume. I doubt those 15% so the math may be wonky but going by that calculator my dyel brother has close to 20 too simply because of good diet. You need not consider yourself with this in any way before you reach maybe 24ish, which so God wills it will take a few years for you KEK

>>39985016
>no responses
also he used cocaine to cut so even this isn't entirely "natty"

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>>39985016
i don't take protein power nor supplements. random because you are new, not to the initiated. i have better genetics than sandow and his knowledge distilled multiple times over. future generations should always be better than their predecessors for knowledge transfer alone. learn the theory of relativity and how to apply it if you ever want to be successful in life.

can you not make a wheel with ease? or perhaps a fire? maybe even a lodging? tools to hunt with?

keep praising me, it only makes me more powerful, tribute to the most powerful god. thats what dyels are good for.

>>39985146
>>can you not make a wheel with ease? or perhaps a fire? maybe even a lodging? tools to hunt with?
can you explain what this has to do with the limits of human genetics

>>39985146
I don't think there were any black gods mate. Nice try.

>>39985146
>>can you not make a wheel with ease? or perhaps a fire? maybe even a lodging? tools to hunt with?

>maybe even synthesize some androgens?

>>39985146
you're like masT's inferior nigger doppleganger, have you no original content to contribute?

sage

>>39985163
>trying to parse the ramblings of a fuckwit like lotus
It's a losing battle, bub.

>>39985146
>some nigger talking about gods and superiority

>meanwhile his heritage is his family being whipped in the ass, castrated, and forced to pick cotton

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>>39985109

>dyel brother FFMI 20
>my FFMI is >20

So FFMI confirmed fucking stupid nonsense.

Look at Lotus FFMI 20 looking like a mac truck, look at my FFMI 20+ pic looking like I just crawled out of dachau

Not even comparable remotely the level he reached at 20 FFMI versus me, look at the pics


>>39985075

I got one big muscle tho. You mirrin'?

Routine

>be fat for 7 years
>fork put downs

(Also doing barbell calf raises 4x12 + machine calf raises 4xfailure now though)

Hey Ghandi, you said you wanted big calves?

>>39985163
trial and error takes time which decreases the amount of genetic potential you can realize. distilled knowledge reduces trial and error which increases my genetic output in relation to my intellectual input. i have never looked so low to sandow for comparison of my genetic limit as his are inferior to mine. every human being is unique from a genetic perspective, whether it is an aid regarding visual beauty is another story.

To be fair basketball americans have been bred like cattle for centuries with careful selection towards strength and endurance before slavery was abolished while the white man went out of his way to get fatter and dilute his gene pool as thoroughly as possible.

Muh genetics might play a role in this, seeing how in comparison glands is an actual diagnosed retard with obese parents and a history of mental and other health issues in his family who just roids to have his chin scrotum swell up again so he can whine about it.

>>39985232
the one you talk about is no muscle but spongy tissue. next

>>39985243
it took you nearly 10 minutes to write this up, I don't think you get to talk about distilled knowledge

>>39985232
stop

>>39985250
>keeping niggers in captivity for a few years somehow dwarfs billions of years of evolution

>>39985243
>intellectual input

>nigger
>intellectual input
pick one

>>39985260
>billions of years
>human as we know it has existed for little more than a hundred thousand years
>short-term (relatively) genetic reprogramming by (in this case forced) natural selection is not a thing
JUST

>>39985293
>selectively choosing which niggers pick the most cotton somehow transforms this one specific nigger from an estrogen ridden dyel to a superhuman bodybuilder

>>39985232
>boasting about his babby calves
>brick has spotted another easy meal

>>39985305
>completely disregarding the fact some slave traders had literal bull stables with only the best and strongest niggers for breeding and the rest culled or castrated without second thought

It's not all about cotton m80

>>39985338
ok so where are all of these other superhuman niggers?

>>39985335
brick has given up long ago. alex autism is like the hydra with her regrowing heads.

>>39985347
Smoking crack in Detroit, mostly. Genetic potential doesn't mean you actually have to use it.

Risky to send pins to same address as sauce? Also rec me AI and PCT for babbys 1st test e 500mg/wk cycle, was thinking exem, nolva

>>39985363
do you think he is the only monkey in the entire world that works out?

>>39985335

Stop bully let me think they are good

>baby calves

They far outshine any other muscle on my physique as sad as that is.

Everything is relative. For you, it's baby calves, for me, it's MY baby

>>39985379
Not by a far margin. Most just either go into non-lifting sports or >roiding for this way too early to take full use of it.

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>>39985349
i sure hope not

once brick and jerry leave this general will be done. FINISHED

>>39985385
go eat your tendies

>>39985399
Ok

Seeing as this is basically the beginning generation of widespread internet usage, i wonder how the fitness industry is going to look in like 10-15 years, when everyone has been eating this kind of shit up from their youtubers and stuff for a long time and everyone except juicers still look like shit. are they gonna be thinking "wow should have eaten more oats instead of rice, that is why i look like an average dyel who doesn't even lift after this 10 years of perfect training and diet, and those guys on youtube look photoshopped", or what?

>>39985458
not same anon but don't you roid and look like an average dyel too? what do you care?

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>>39985458
>>39983473


Hey glands, mostly, I use this board to try to find stuff that you and natT will find funny at this point.

Look, pic related, just dug it up.

I don't know if it's bait or not, but if it's bait, it's 10/10 people actually think this shit.

Remember, as soon as he cuts, he will have a roid physique, for sure, since he has a 3pl8 squat

If that anon is just pretending to be retarded 11/10

I have a theory that maybe there is like 1 dude that just 24/7 posts ' Wanna look good? You're 25% bodyfat? SS + GOMAD strength base cmon' and then laughs his dick off and goes to gym and trains for hypertrophy and takes tren and competes in men's physique

>>39985564
stop

>>39985539
I am dyel especially right now after not lifting for 4 months of being suicidal over glands but above natty standards for sure since people keep talking about my fucking body and bringing it up even in spite of my glands

But what does that have to do with anything I am saying. And I dont care but I have nothinf better to do than shitpost here right now anyway so why not.

>>39985583
>but I have nothing better to do than shitpost here right now anyway so why not
same desu

>>39985564
46lbs of lean muscle more like 46 lbs of fat and CNS improvement

>>39985564
>Hey glands, mostly, I use this board to try to find stuff that you and natT will find funny at this point.
How about not.

>>39985583
Don't get discouraged we all encounter obstacles en route to our goals. Always remember you can be better, rather than hoping life will get easier.

l8r /fraud/

>>39985564
>>39985583
You guys have all of the Internet to shitpost in
Leave here

>>39985630
getting back to the plantation so soon?

Up 6kg in 9 days, looking leaner. Sterons are magic.

>>39985607

I dunno man. 46 lbs of muscle, in 6 months? Fuck, I really should hop on starting strength already and just GOMAD.

I have 142 pounds of lean mass. I could be literally far, far, ahead of Lotus by working out for 45 mins a day 3 times a week, no roids required?

Sign me up!

>these are the people that are advising starting strength for asthetics

u can't make this shit up.

The worst thing is they wont look at themselves in the mirror in 6 months and think 'fuck time to do something diffrent'

They will think 'After I cut, I will look JUST like masT'

'I can't believe MasT needed roids for that body, I weight more than him after 6 month of SS+Godmad!'

>>39985657
pics

>>39985656
Lmfao
>>39985630
I don't think you understand my life situation right now I am basically so hapoy that these glands are fixed that I am in a constant state of fucking euphoria, like I almost cany stand it and just want to feel calm and at peace but the joy is so ducking intense, fron this fuckinf shit going away

>>39985699

I'm so happy to hear it dude. Just me an email or a phone number or something if you ever stop shitposting, I wanna see the stuff you accomplish in life that would've been IMPOSSIBLE for you if you bitched out and killed yourself.

glad your ass is still around, really.

Reminder that none of this joy you are feeling would've been remotely possible for you if killed yourself.

>>39985630
imagine how hard it is raging right now, all that tren combined with the inherent rage of a primitive nigger beast. probably went to go rob a convenience store to buy more steroids and purple drank

>>39985792
i was honestly looking forward to an hero livestream

>>39985792
Wouldn't have been possible with the glands either though

>need thicker hair tho it is thin as FUCK after first accutane run

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Should I order 2g of memek911 with my raws to try it?

6 weeks into my test only cycle and my bench went from 185x5-6 (yes I know that's pitiful but I'm a lanklet and it makes bench my weakest exersize) to 205 for 10, I'm about to add var for the last 5 weeks, what kind of strength gains am I going to see? 400mg of test, 50mg / day of var, 3500-4000 calories a day high fat high protein. Think I can bench 315 by the end of the cycle?

>>39985630
are you still here?

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>>39985844
unironically do masT and/or cosmeticsisteranon hair routine. great results

>>39986011
It's not the same as baldness it's telogen effluvium from fucking accutane, it's thin as fuck all over my head. It was ducked up, even my eye lashes were falling out like fuck. Hairline is still exactly the same so I am not worried really but just want it to stop looking like shit

Also I am doing the mast meme stack of 3g pso 2250mg saw palmetto and 10,000 mcg (I think) biotin

>>39986068
It's not only for baldness, it thickens and adds volume no matter what. but you use it anyway so good luck. this and the oily bullshit the other anon posted seems to help me keep some of my luscious locks even on absurd amounts of gear so here's to that.

>>39984484
These threads are shit now
I dont know why brick still posts
I see fl trying to have a normal conversation from time to time and it makes me sad

>>39986189
>I dont know why brick still posts
once an autist always an autist

so what's with you, staying out of trouble?

>>39983374
that described my thanksgiving

>>39984398
you can literally do anything for hiit. row machine, jump rope, punching bag. these are my favorites.

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Tfw faggy triceps are finally catching up. So much effort finally paying off.

New gf wants to get married I think I'm gonna do it.

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>>39985797
Lol. Na, had to go across town though to get the last copy of pic related in the city.

>>39986004
What's up?

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>>39986894

Come on dude, you known her for how long now? a month?

>>39982972
>>39984773

Swolen, I have a folder of like 50 of these now.

I am now realizing that *this* is the guy telling people that are 15% bodyfat to 'lean bulk' and telling me that I need to 'bulk' when I post photos of my fat ass.

I feel bad because I am so fucking dyel and it's like, my physique is shit, I should never make fun of someone.

But at the same time, people NEED to see this stuff, so they know what the reality is when some guy says

>I've been lifting for 5 years
>I have 19" arms
>I'M GIVING MY EXPERT ADVICE, YOU NEED TO BULK at 20% BODYFAT, GOTTA BUILD SOME SIZE BEFORE YOU CUT!

Now, I have ammo.

>>39986906

I've been doing a lot of the reading you recommended and feel like it has increased my very limited knowledge of nutrition by a little bit

thank you.

I now understand more of 'why' am I doing the stuff I do with diet as opposed to 'lotus told me to'.

>>39987023
stop

>>39987043

t. fucking guy that is 50% bodyfat and goes around telling 20% bf people to bulk

0% chance you're a roidaroo that's training for a long ass time and roiding and has a noteable physique

I thought the people that were arguing with me over this were from the fraud general, and it blew my mind that they could be roiding and so ignorant, now I realize fucking anons can see this shit because it bumps on the frontpage

Stop. Telling. Fat. People. To. Get. Fatter.

>>39987087
Not him. He's just telling you to stop posting you Autist.

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>>39987023
Love isn't about how long you've known a girl it's about how much money she makes

http://is.4chan.org/pol/1484117132805.gif
le fake news

>>39985146
who was the trip a few years back that used to post shit like this daily? guy was pretty yuge but kinda crazy. was in love with a prostitute. i miss that psychopath

One time I ran out of toilet paper and went into the hallway to get some and my gf slapped my naked butt and got a poo flake on her hand.

Anybody here run a SARM on anabolics? I like the idea of extra gains without androgenic side effects.

>>39987161
Currently not leaving my gf because of her plans of being a doctor after college and she's smart as fuck so I have high hopes. Let's just hope future tren cycles don't make me too nuts and scare her off lol

>>39987295
dent?

is it considered source posting if I ask where to get pins from? I asked 2 local pharmacies and both refused to sell to me, I read walgreens doesn't care so I'm gonna check them out tomorrow

>>39987295
>>39987441
good old harvey dent

i miss him too ;_;7

>>39987545

No. I have only seen the mod delete/ban for talking about sourcing AAS themselves as 4chan rules are basically 'If It's illegal in the US, that's illegel', and AAS is illegal, while needles and the like themselves are totally legal.

you are fine.

>>39987545
Yes
>>39987565
Its not about legality its about promotion

>>39987545
i buy mine from gpzmedlabs. combo deals, 100 1 inch 25g needles + 100 syringe with 1-1.5 inch 22-23g needles + box of alcohol pads.

>>39987546
>tfw no baby mama
>tfw dead son
>tfw boss life
>tfw balding dent head
>tfw tranny black hookers
>tfw boss vacation with 16 year old honies
am i missing anything?

>>39987576

Seriously? I have never seen hotpockets touch ANYONE for talking about pins, I have seen dudes talking 'Hey I bought this pins from amazon this listing here is good, very cheap, ' and not banned

And then someone posts a vagina or a source for roids and bam he is banned in like 2-3 minutes or less.

The mod is dedicated af, posts violating rules are banned in like 2 mins.

The fact that it's even still up probably means it's allowed, no?

>about promotion

Well this entire thread is about promoting AAS use, except when it is about talking about cocaine/speed/MDMA etc and promoting it.

>>39987609
stop

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Meh

Fat 245

>>39987609
i promote you kill yourself

>>39987654
Ur cute ;]

>>39987654

do u want me to go? Offer is on the table.

I am sort of wasting too much time here as is and being less productive so that's bad anyways.

Just say the word and I will post like 1x a month with proggies and check up on glands and shit and that's it

>lost 6 lbs in 2 days

So you lost a ton of water, why would look fatter carrying less water? Don't understand

>>39987684
First time lifting in a week and diet has been shit.

>>39987609
Promoting a source. I've been banned before for it and we've had mods come in to officially explain the reasons for the bans when they first started.

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>>39987684
please actually leave or post normally. i cannot deal with this shit when i lurk on mobile at work

>>39987702

so, some new devolpments in bimbo's life right?

what's going on bimbo? I got my fingers crossed, i dunno if you scrolled up but I was thinking/hoping new girlfriend? (a nice one this time)

Or is the modeling work taking off?

Update us

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>>39987684
>mfw there was an anon posting last night who said he would literally paypal you $100 to never ever post on this board again

>>39987742
PayPal me 1 dollar and I'll make sure he never posts again

>>39987735
>>39987702
Don't update us. Please take alex with you and fuck off again.

>>39987735
can you actually fuck off? how did you get to the point of tonguing bimbos asshole for attention and blogposting from being the weird new kid

go back to posting about laptops just leave for fucks sake
>>39987750
>>39987755
>>39987742
>>39987726

>>39987702
you haven't texted me bimbo, pls respond

>>39987775
Text me first or bimbolifts @ gmail

>>39987742

It was $200 wasn't it?

>>39987755
>>39987769

Why are you guys so angry over what people post in this fucking thread on fucking 4chan lol. I'll make my posting all this horrible blocky hard to read no spacing no margins just eyesore garbage unreadable run on sentence shit for mobile posters out of common courtesy

You guys are all chads here right?

I'm going on holiday in a few weeks and thought I might as well turn it into a sex vacation with tons of hookers,

My question was, I'm a tall jacked virgin with a decent face, and was wondering if you had any tips for a virgin on how to get gud in bed, I basically just wanna use this vacation as practice

>>39987812
You're so fucking hateable.

>>39987819
Getting good with prostitute isn't the same desu. I wouldn't eat out a prostitute. My suggestion is to use it to get over an initial anxiety about sex. Sex with a girl you are comfortable with and really know is several times more intimate, several times more pleasurable, several times more enjoyable.

>>39987819

so my first advice would be stop worrying about it and asking people on 4chan for advice and just do whatever you want to do and feels good (maybe don't go down on a hooker though, not sure one would even let you do that without charging you more?)

Not sure why you care about what a hooker thinks of your skills in the bedroom at all though

>all chads

i'm autistic and jerry is a virgin but other than that yeah basically dude

except for the front page lurkers that have this much animosity to autistic people on the internet >>39987822

>>39987857
I hope you die in a fire

>>39987851
Fair enough, thanks man

>>39987857
It's not necessarily that I'd care or get caught up in what a hooker thinks, I just want to get decent in bed after some time, so that when I have sex with an actual partner it won't necessarily be absolutely fucking horrible

>>39987863

at this point you're just harboring so much resentment that it hurts only YOURSELF
I am happy, you are PISSED. Think, think, think- who are you really hurting?
calm down and u will feel better

>>39987882

the more anxiety you have the worse you will do in general just relax. sex should be a fun thing not something that you are anxious and stressed about, just have fun dude

plus too much anxiety will give you ed, ironically, so stop worrying and just enjoy

are you guys ever gonna start talking about steroids again or should I just hide this thread

>>39987920
Alright, I guess I'll just fuck the shit out of some hookers with a no fucks given attitude

>>39987941
I guess I can, my test p came in today but I couldn't buy pins, looks like I'm gonna have to order online and pin in a week

Halo is doing it's thing but I haven't felt any sides so I'm wondering if I'm just natty lifting, like I take a pill before pr attempts and I feel more aggression from my preworkout than I do from the halo

>>39985347
In the NBA and NFL making millions while you shitpost. Incel.

>>39987991
Mtren>halo

>>39987684
I don't think anyone would have a serious problem with you if you just stayed in your lane and didn't sperg out or get super talkative about shit that belongs in other threads.

>>39988076

>if you just stayed in your lane

So you want me to talk about... laptops? People complain when I talk about laptops. I have no lane, I have no physique, I have no nothing other than general life advice that everyone else here has too, older posters more than I do.

>shit that belongs in other threads.

problem is that guy guys have a 100% monopoly on people with knowledge/good physique's ITT. Am I wrong? The entire rest of the board is people lifting for 4 months (like me) that look like shit, people lifting for 5 years that look like shit (IIFYM, Bulk @ 30% bf, SL 5x5, etc)

But mostly it's people that are in legit their first few months of training like me and are just so desperate to prove to themselves that their methods are ideal, (bulk @ 30% bodyfat, SS) that they try to push it onto OTHERS (maybe this is just my projection?)

I occasionally go around and post 'Search Lotus in archives Search NatT in archives read their posting about hypertrophy training vs strength training and their postings on when to cut and when to bulk'

Those guys actually gave up, because they were so sick of people that look like me arguing and saying 'ur wrong man strength=size I push BIG numbers, but I can't post my physique because of how GOOD I look'

I'm considering just making a catalog of their advice and posts as sort of advice for novices, decent idea?

Anyways,

>your thread has a 100% concentration of people with noteworthy physiques, INCLUDING *EVERY* natty with a good physique

That's your problem, this is the only thread on the board where sound advice is given and SS/SL is not an ideal asthetics routine

Is 30g 0.5" too small for delts/pecs?

>>39988292
Nope, that's fine. Might want to airlock it
Just in case to prevent subq leakage. Also with a 30g it'll probably take an eternity to inject.

>>39988292
Depends how lean.

I hit the inner upper chest with a 29g .5 inch.

Burns. But its only for my low test shot. ..25ml each chest.

>>39982818
Can anyone pinpoint me to a good cooking course for good ole testosterone???
Dont wanna invest 40$$ for a songle vial of test, if i brew it i can also control the dosage better.
Also; where would i get the equipment? Am i be able to buy the stuff without license etc.?

>>39988563
R/steroids has homebrew recipes in the sidebar

>>39982818
probably a stupid question but ive been doing some poking around and i want to try mk-677 out. where can i get some that isn't watered down or just garbage quality, and preferably doesnt cost an arm and a leg? sorry if this is commonly answered or something im not usually a lurker on /fraud/

>>39989031
fuck off cap

Adding in some var, what are some supps to help with lipids?

>>39987296
Story: haha wat
Question: technically stackable, would not do it

>>39987819
>You guys are all chads here right?
Nah I'm a bald strongfat cunt kek

>>39987941
i can. just found a shitload of tren i literally forgot about. debating if to stack it with my current one (400 test 400 eq 200 deca) and leave humanity behind or simply stash it a wee bit longer for next one.

>TFW spent $400 on gear
>TFW people are now saying the source isn't all that great

I even bought AI and pct from them. I'm scared now what do

>>39988292
will take half a day to pin with that size depending on dosage, otherwise fine

I haven't done much research into steroids but I have a general question for people more knowledgeable than me.

Is it possible to use steroids to reach your natural potential, then cease using steroids, and enter a maintenance style of diet and exercise?

>>39989316
Sell to even bigger idiots, do better source research, buy from it with the money you get from slinging the old stuff.

Or simply run it and hope for the best. There is still a difference between outright bunk and just "oops might be less in there than I told you hehe~"

>>39989330
Technically for some people. But that would be really stupid and the cheap way out. I spent about a decade with crippling OCD about diet and routine natty before I even touched test so I'm hella biased though.

>>39989349
Don't really know anyone I could sell it to, and I wouldn't really want to sell people something I wouldn't use myself. Feels wrong.

I did tons of research, thought everything was fine but then some things come out between then and when it shows up that changed my mind a bit. It's PROBABLY fine but still feels fuckin uneasy.

>>39989371
Yeah I was shitposting, please do not resell bunk stuff mate. You can always try it and hop off early and throw the rest out (with adequate measures taken) if you feel it's underdosed or literally cat piss in oil. Or throw it out whenever without pinning, sure the money loss sucks but no use in chimping around with your hormone levels when you're not too sure what you're even pinning.

>>39989402
Yeah that's true, kind of sunk cost fallacy at play here (Money is spent no matter what, no point pinning God knows what as if it will make the money come back).

Shitty part is buying PCT though, what do if it's bunk and my shit doesn't go back to normal after?

>>39989411
Can't answer that, I get my PCT from someone I know not to be shitting me (cause family member kek), but generally sellers don't go out of their way to fake pct, not worth the hassle compared to profit margin.

>>39989457
Are you sure tho? Seems like PCT would be a top thing to underdose

>>39989467
I can only speak for my local sellers (yuropoor) and one of them flat out told me to my face fucking around with it is less profitable than just buying the real stuff in bulk and amping prices. So that might be different for US folks or general online ordering.

>>39989497
why do we have to deal with this shit

why can't it just be legal

>>39989504
That is a topic I have had extensive discussions about to no avail. If something is illegal, the gubmint can profit off of people breaking said law is the most common argument. There are a few others I can't be fucked to go into right now though.

Gonna do test (500 mg/wk) and turinabol (50 mg/ed) cycle. Is it good? my second cycle

>>39989667
Yez

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Anybody else only get the tren rage in bed? Like, I can control myself like a normal human being most of the day, but jesus christ my gf won't look me in the eye for twelve hours after fucking because she's scared. Still likes it of course, but I never was this barbaric on any other gear save for maybe elevated levels of halo and that's a different story altogether.

>>39989716
not sure how that's an issue though. vanilla sex is meh

>>39989667
oh, test for 12-14 weeks and turinabol for 6 weeks

>>39989746
Well it's fun. I'm just worried because I can literally pinpoint the moment I turn into a hentai rape monster and stop giving a fuck about anything else. Might enjoy it as long as it lasts and dial back the tren for next cycle kek

>>39983374
I ran 1g of DNP without ECA and didn't eat over 2000kcal because shit was so hot and lethargic that I had no energy to chew my food.

>tfw get on scale this morning
>down 4lbs
>IM FUCKING BULKING

why the fuck....it's not like it's even water weight either, I dropped adrol like a week ago and lost weight due to that already

fuark

>>39985437
is that a gojira made from roaches?

getting my e2 in check saved my life. suicide was an option just a few weeks ago.

also have to do legs today (fug), this blast cant be wasted.

also blast strength has kicked in, added 50 pounds to my incline bench out of nowhere.

/blog

>>39988168
im always surprised at the amount of people doing SS or some other retarded shit.
And when you look too big on a "bro routine" they just scream steroids kek

>>39987819
post body

>>39990179
>increase asin dosage
>bloat goes away
>5lbs heavier

feels good desu

also where is masT and estp and bimbo

>>39990179
Been there just last week. Must be some black magic ffs

>>39990237
>masT
GETTING BIG
>estp
doing opiates, bouncing on cock
>bimbo
posted recently, haven't heard of him since

>>39990237
>masT
laughing at his brother
>estp
cock, heroin, whoring, etc
>bimbo
rage quit because of our resident autist, will be back in a couple weeks probably

>>39990243
yeah shit sucks, gotta force myself not to overeat and compensate for it kek

>>39990263
>tfw contemplating a bbq for friends and family for the sole excuse of wolfing down 6lbs of meat in one sitting
why even live

I'm currently cruising and doing 5/3/1 on PPLPPLx, while cutting, after finishing my first blast at the start of September, Test only. I'm going to start blasting again soon, and I want to switch up my routine to build the most muscle as possible. I'm still only gonna be blasting test, with 250mg Test e e3d. I didn't get the results I was hoping for after my first blast, which was probably due to a lack of a proper routine, so I wanted to ask for any input.

>>39990335
I'm actually doing that exact same routine right now after structurally changing mine quite a bit.

Elaborate a bit, lay out your chest/triceps day for me. Also do you progress the 5/3/1 2x per week or 1x/week as it should be done? E.g. PPL (5/5/5+) rest PPL (3/3/3+) or PPL (5/5/5+) rest PPL (5/5/5+) rest then move on to the next progression the next week?

>>39990335
>>39990348
Didn't notice that you have it set up as PPLPPLx rather than 3 on 1 off, just ignore the rest days I placed in the middle of the routine.

>>39990325
I'll come to your bbq m8 just make sure there's some bison burgers there, shit's my weakness

4 weeks suicidecut/1500 kcal deficit on 250 Tren/w? Would the Tren be enough to prevent any mayor catabolism? So muscleloss would be inevitable yes. Followed be reverse dieting back to maintenance to minimise rebound.

If this is retarded just tell me lol, if I should to a slower cut for like 8 weeks or so.

What do you guys do specifically for bigger biceps? I'm content with my physique everywhere except for my arms. It doesn't help that my bicep insertions are very fucking long too.

>>39990365
No bison burgers sadly but my uncle just culled a humongous ox last week so that might be worth looking into. I could literally eat THROUGH that thing right now. But probably won't.

Probably.

>>39990391
idiotic volume. srs. i've even done that absurd t-nation arm destruction bullshit for lulz in the past, while as mentioned above idiotic it did help kek

>>39990370
do a slower cut. a 10,500kCal/week deficit is pretty fucking hefty. Not that it can't be done, but imo aim for 7,000kCal/week deficit, and utilize either a 5/2 or 11/3 refeed schedule.

e.g. assume your TDEE is 3,000. Eat 2,000 kcal/day for five days, then for two days in a row eat about 3.150 kcal. Roughly a 7k deficit without the effects of on metabolic rate that come with long term high deficits. Alternatively use the 11/3 schedule with the same principle.

Run it as long as you feel you need to, to reach your goal.

>>39990391
Bimbo/Brick gave me some advice because I have the same issue. Neutral grip chins, lots of preachers, and heavy hammer curls. Really focus on the muscle contraction through the movement.

I also personally find that barbell curls WITH A STRAIGHT BAR are GOAT. Only with a straight bar, this maintains full supination of the hands and allows for the best focus on the bicep rather than cheating the movement like the ezbar encourages.

>>39990393
I'll take it send me your address I'll bring you free gear

>>39990407
>>39990370
eat at 1,400 kcal/day not 2,000 for those five days

my math is retarded

>>39990348
I personally do Push Legs Pullx2, and do the 5/3/1 on Monday for bench, Tuesday for squat, Thursday for OHP, and Saturday for Deadlift.

For example, on my Monday, I'll be doing 5/3/1 for Bench, then I'll do Cable crossover, then tricep pushdown. I had to lower my volume a bit as I wasn't recovering enough. Although depending on how I'm feeling, I'll do boring but big for each main lift after I finish the 5/3/1 part.

>inb4 1 last blast
I'm going to be coming off steroids after one last blast. I've only done Test only blasts so far, but I have some Tren, and was thinking of using it for the last blast before I come off for good. Would it be worth it, or will I lose any gains I make on it? I lift 6 days a week.

And for the record, I'm coming off because it's become too much of a hassle to plan stuff around whether or not I'll be able to pin, so holidays with the gf are more difficult.

>>39990407
>free gear
Mate, I don't even know what to do with the one I have laying around here already. Thanks though. Hit me up if you ever venture to yurop, I'll show you some gypsy grandma oldschool bulking.

>>39990433
Sounds to me like you're really just lacking volume. At 500mg test you should be able to recover from volume far greater than that fairly easily, depending on the intensity you're working with.

For example my first day is:

Chest/Anterior Delts/Triceps

Last set of every exercise is done to failure (not true failure, I don't train with a partner so just stop 1-2 reps short of where you can continue)

>5/3/1 Bench, 2 warmup sets, 5 sets total
>Chest Dip 4x10, weighted
>Incline DB Bench 4x10
>Cable Crossover (One arm at a time) 4x10
>Military Press 4x10
>Front Raise (barbell) 4x10
>Shoulder press (Dumbbell) 4x10
>Skullcrushers (full extension above head, not to face) 4x10
>Tricep Pulldown 4x10
>Tricep Dip (weighted heavy, on machine) 4x10

That volume is about right for me on just 450mg test/200mg deca/300eq right now (eq hasn't even really ramped up, only on it for a few weeks and dropping it in favor of more deca)

I just do that 2x/week (repeat the 5/3/1 twice in one week, try to beat the first attempt in rep count) and it seems to work fine.

>>39990447
>gypsy grandma oldschool bulking

sounds intriguing, I'll lyk whenever I head back to the CR with qtczgf to visit her famalam anon

>>39990463
Intriguing doesn't even cut it. There is a traditional stew that feeds four to six and has like 15000 kcal at surreal 900g protons if my math adds up correctly. CMON EAT BIG

lol. what the fuck?
>compare hair pics to see progress of that memepalmetto and pso and biotin stack
>expecting a shitstorm of receded and thinned hair
>it literally looks better now than before

wtf? i am flipping between the pics in disbelief, how the fuck is it better now? god damn. way thicker even with gear

>>39990410
Fair enough. Makes sense to Keep metabolism in check

>my source may have just gotten v&

fuck australia

>>39990568
how dare you question the hair stack, puny infidel

>>39990568
can confirm this

>1.5 into blast
>expect hair to thin out like crazy
>its unusually thick and dense

>>39991006
what kind of meme stack are you running?

for me it's mast's stack + 10,000 mcg biotin. so 3g pso 2250mg saw palmetto 10,000mc biotin every day, i split it into morning and night doses.

>>39991024
3000mg pso
2000mg palmetto
scalp exercises
scalp massages

will add biotin too.

I also apply these oils to my hair/scalp every night before sleep:

coconut oil
PSO oil
Rosemary oil
Castor oil

I expect this stuff to work when you are natty.
But im surprised its saving my hair even with 5x higher test and DHT levels.

Cant imagine what this would do if i drop to a cruise dose after my blast. Also weird its working for this fast. Usually takes 3-4 months before you notice anything.

>>39991065
*its working for you this fast

>>39991065
Some of the hair problems come down not only due to the gear, but also general shady scalp health and out of control flaking or sebum excretion. Some people have rapid success because their hair improves back to a normal level in big steps, then slowly improves regarding the gear-related stuff.

>>39991065
>Usually takes 3-4 months before you notice anything.
i have been on it since the end of november. so like 1.5 months so far although i miss half my dose sometimes because i am too lazy and already falling asleep.

most people wouldn't notice a difference but i notice because i have autistic HD pictures of my hairline that basically shows each individual hair follicle, lol, and i take them at the same angle every time. so i can flip back and forth between them and it shows even the tiniest difference.

>>39990568
How long have you been running it?

>>39988168
>I have no lane
Ok, fair enough. I don't think we need this to turn into laptops general, but I do just get a sense from you sometimes that you haven't lurked enough.

I have no doubt that you've actually lurked a considerable duration of time here but what I'm trying to say is you somehow haven't assimilated in the same way other natties have.

As a side theory, I think part of what people are picking up on is the autism multiplier of natty test. I used to do a whole lot of autism posting here like you did. To the point where Moosey would call me "the Autist." I was just obsessive and long winded as I am with all of my interests, but I kept the posting to be very on topic - always related to roids. (btw Moosey, thanks for the motivation to hop on roids sooner rather than later at my age - loving it. Huge change in the way I think already.)

For other stuff, you can just google and should expect others to do so as well. You don't have to fix other people. Yes, you've been helped by people here, but you don't have to take it upon yourself to save every /fit/izen, and if you do feel that impetus - do so on their thread.

>>39991121
>>How long have you been running it?
~1.5 months, hair also might just be recovering from accutane on it's own even though i am now back on it, lol (dnp made me sweat like fuck and acne came back on chest a bit)

>>39991024
>>39991065
Are y'all on keto shampoo as well? Thinking of adding that eventually but I just started my /fraud/ cruise of 220/wk so I'm probably gonna hold off for a while to see the effects of the oral stack first.

Also FWIW I'm adding a nightly (when I can remember to) application of 5% peppermint oil and 5% lavender oil to hairline and beard. Trying to see if I can reproduce the studies saying the hair growth effects are on-par with minox (without the collagen inhibition sides).

>>39991175
>>Are y'all on keto shampoo as well?
I'm not

>>39991175
Personally no keto, but a few in here seem to. Ruins my skin.

protip: put peppermint and lavender in carrier oils (castor/sweet almond/extra virgin olive). Applying them pure to your scalp and especially face will feel awful and the carrier oils add smoothness.

>>39991175
>>39991230
No wait overread that 5% there. Never mind.

>>39991175
oh yeah forgot that, keto shampoo once a week

>>39991088
this is true. irritation/inflammation/dryness from shampoos causes this too. I and lot of other people would have much much less hairloss if they didnt destroy their scalp skin with shampoo every single day for years and decades.

>>39991248
As gay as it sounds, the mild baby shampoo they sell at convenience stores is GOAT. I need to wash every day because of work related grime in my hair and beard and it does wonders if you cannot really abstain from shampoo altogether.

oh yeah btw taking 20mg zinc everyday, which is important for hair

also what i want to say is that, its not PSO itself thats helping with hair and inhibiting 5ar-reductase. Its the Beta sitosterol thats doing it, and PSO is rich in beta sitosterol.

>>39991309
Is the form of Zinc important? I have Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate (in ZMA).

>Beta sitosterol
Interesting - didn't know about this.

>>39991230
>>39991245
Yep, I am using jojoba oil as the carrier. Even 5% is very strong - wakes you up and can even make your eyes water at first.

>>39982818
Just did first injection of Methyl-Tren and within 10 mins, unless it's a placebo, I'm sweating and feel like I took a stimulant. It's used a pre-workout like Halotestin, so I'm about to eat 1000 calories than train and see how it is.

What do you guys think of training muscles once vs twice a week? all the people that don't look like shit seem to do once a week but

>muh roid recovery

>>39991248

I have stopped using shampoo entirely since I started reading up on the stuff you guys wrote.

I just massage my scalp thoroughly and use hot water, really massage it, to wash it.

My hair really doesn't smell at all. I can dig my fingers in my scalp and rub them around and I smell nothing at all.

When you don't shower over like, a long weekend, and you dig your fingers in your hair, you can smell that it smells like shit. My hair doesn't smell like that.

Maybe once every 2 weeks I was it with shampoo.

any1 here experienced in competing? Thinking of competing in physique this year in october.

Any tips on blasts, cutting, getting stage ready etc.?

Been on roids for 11 months now, currently bulking with 750 test e/week

i'm 6 feet 203 lbs at 10% bf atm

>>39991451

Keep in mind I am dyel and retarded but

>faster recovery time from sterons
>able to train more often
>training muscles once a week

Why? What's the logic here? Even natty muscles can recover after 48 hours so I don't see why you would even as a fucking natty wait 168 hours, never mind n gear.

Keep in mind though

>I look like shit
>I don't train them once a week

Might be proving your point

>>39991451
i cant see how you think training a muscle once a week even as a natty is a good idea.

i hit all of muscles ATLEAST twice per week, natty or not

since when do muscles need 1 fucking week to recover lmao.

>>39991309
Zinc strips copper make sure you are getting enough.

>>39991451
You dont even lift fag

>>39991469
post body

>>39991480
this, its fucking retarded

>>39991480
>>39991495
i don't know i haven't been doing it but all the pros and giant ass guys i see on other websites seem to do some split and hit everything once a week

>>3999148
>>39991495
>>39991512
You guys are so ignorant

It has to do with your programming

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>>39991507
i have no recent pictures, i have this one from 6 months ago

>>39991561
>i have no recent pictures,

>have this one from 6 months ago

You look great dude. Fell for the perma bulk meme?

I don't understand why guys that look so good and have so much lean mass want to get fat and just fucking hide years of bodybuilding like that so to the entire world they look like a just typical 25% bdoyfat chubby guy that never been to the gym before

>>39991495
I have better recovery and gains on low frequency as a natty. But I push pretty hard on compounds (to the point where I don't really have energy for more than a few isolations afterwards), so that might have something to do with it.

>>39991584
what no, i havent been above 13% bf my entire life. I'm at 10% as i said earlier.

been looking for emails that dont reequire a verification in order to make one for privacy reasons in order to msg my source.
Anyone use vfemail.net? i tried sending a message to my source and it just sent me a text back saying my message couldnt go through and i got a wall of html text the next day.
just make a yandex and emailed him again still no reply. hope it was just the email and not just something on his end.

>>39991584
He never said that
Stop your autism posting and leave

>>39991561
Honestly anyone useful has most likely left, but get as lean as you can on tren starting 6 months out and come in lean and full, dropping test at tge last moment to lose any potential water weight.

Thats about as much as I know

>>39991375
I hate lavender with a passion because I associate it with bad childhood memories, but I take peppermint and rosemary oil in castor carrier and boy does it do wonders.

>/fraud/ thread
>discussing natural haircare like pinterest moms
NO FUCKS GIVEN

>>39991611

u look great dude

would totally advise against hookers in general, i mean, herpes sheds through condoms, 17% of the population has it, seems very likely whatever backpage girls you dig up will have it, for life, etc etc

why not just talk to some girls at the gym? looking like that I am sure it won't be so hard, no risk of getting arrested, somewhat less risk of herps, will be more enjoyable, etc

>>39991451
did twice per week natty, do three times a week now on roids. can't really complain.

>>39991633
>>39991649

ah shit I'm sorry, I thought this was the guy that was talking baout hookers just ignore me im retarded dude

sorry sorry sorry guys

>>39991561
>>39991469
Looks good for 4chan standards. I dunno about the physique, do you know about the competition?

Also sick traps development. Work some on your width a bit more and get more shredded and you're ready. Any back pictures? Physique don't care about legs right?

>>39991512
comes down to programming and what stack you run. back when i was still yoloing halo and more test than i do now i did insane volume and intensity so frequency needed to be dialed back even with muh roids.

>>39991584
stop scaring people who look for honest advice with your rampant autism you insufferable twat

>>39991663
>Physique don't care about legs
some judges even look down on too joocy legs imagine that for a second

>>39991633
alright, thanks
>>39991663
thank you

the competitors aren't anything special, as far as last year goes, so i figured i'd give it a try this year. Just to get some experience.

I don't any more pictures than this one, i can try to get some more

>physique don't care about legs
not sure if they actually look at how well the boardshorts stick to your thighs, but i imagine not. Calves however are judged i believe, but mine are good, so shouldn't be a problem

>>39991703
>>some judges even look down on too joocy legs imagine that for a second
probably since they don't actually care about the physique itself but rather what their flamboyantly homosexual minds find more sexy

Thinking about running a LGD 4033 and MK 677 stack. Should these be taken on an empty stomach, or can I mix the solutions into my protein shake?

>>39991744
>can I mix the solutions into my protein shake?
no mix them with your bcaa's and creatine instead

>>39991736
Eh, physique is not actual "bodybuilding". It's more evident with the women. Bikini are simply hot chicks, physique are hot chicks with somewhat defined muscles and a hint of abs, then the other classes start with the really joocy shit.

>>39991751
thanks, do they bind with dairy or something?

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>>39991703
What you talking about, you can't even see them


>>39991718
>I don't any more pictures than this one, i can try to get some more
ITS A LIE

You don't love yourself too much. You gotta learn to love yourself

I tell you faggots, you gotta learn to love yourself. it's better than heroin and sex combined

let me tell you something about achieving something; just do it and everything else will somehow together. Most faggots don't try, they give up before even trying. NO WILLPOWER

Better regret the things you did, than the things you didn't do. That's my mindset.

CHASE YOUR DREAMS BOY, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. NOW FLY, FLY I LET YOU FLY