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OLYMPICS Weightlifting General
A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>why arent you gays in olympic edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW

>helpful blog on some technique quirks:
yashathoughts.com

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists

>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM (embed)
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Has /owg/ really merged with /plg/? And stretching is making my tendinitis worst, shouldn't have fell for the meme advice on here. I don't think foam rolling does anything either, except make my shoulders hurt from needing to leverage my body enough to feel the roller.
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>>37104188
>idk strength doesnt come one way tho
What do you mean by this?

My coach makes me practice light technique at the start of sessions over and over (25kg) for months, so I'm not sure if it's worth programming any real weights yet, he said to wait until my technique is flawless first? Is that just his method of coaching?

>Can anyone help me with what routine to do/give me one? There is way too much choice from what I've read so I'm not sure what would be best.

I would like a lot of focus on improving my back squat, positions and overall mobility/stability such as in OHS position.

I am 75kg 5'9 with a 140kg 1RM backsquat, 105kg frontsquat and a 65kg 1RM strict press. (Not sure if this helps).
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>>37104270
use lacrosse ball on your forearms close to elbows

there's a lot of trigger points in there, makes my wrist feel 100% all the time
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i put a cool channel commercial on my channel.
remember to subscribe and give a like and share with friends desu
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbHcvXhxdezJj2oXRwsB1ew

>>37104270
stretching and foam rolling does not heal anything but it may ease the pain for some people. the only way of healing is by resting

>>37104293
the coaches i had in korea made me add weight when i first went and did not make me lift only with the bar. i didnt tell them that i was already lifting too. the only time i lifted with the bar is when they made me do the same drill torokhtiy teaches in his videos

which is muscle sn/cl --> muscle sn/cl above knee --> muscle sn/cl below knee --> muscle sn/cl below knee with squat.
teaching the starting position came afterwards.

squat vid --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guMgUEil5F8
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>>37104270

>Has /owg/ really merged with /plg/?

No, people are just memeing.

>And stretching is making my tendinitis worst

Tendinitis needs rest, not stretching. Stretch after the inflammation has cooled off.
Use ice or topical antiinflammatories if needed.

Are you sure it's tendinitis and not something else though?
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>>37083269
tfw some anon has a vid of me saved
well then
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>>37104412

hmm thanks, I have no idea what to do. I've been doing tech for months with no weight and other lifters have said my tech looks fine for now, but the coach is still making me do it?

Should I try adding weight? I feel like I'm getting nowhere.


Where is the place to look/person to ask about beginner programming in the situation I am in with my classics right now?
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>>37104415
You're dumb. I saw your grade listed online, you barely have a passing grade. Kek.

>spends 99% of his time posting on 4chan
>fails med school because of it
Dumby

Maybe if you shitposted less and pay attention in school you could actually give decent advice.
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>>37104412
About that TW squat vid, he says to relax???

I've always saw and read that you have to get very tight and keep upper back very tight but he is saying not to?
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>>37104590

Nice try but I aced one and got a 9/10 on the other on my previous two tests - and got a 5/5 on the PBL group avaliation.
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>>37104643
>9/10
>5/5
are you in grade school holy kek
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>>37104667

Medschool senpai.
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Can I do something like 3x5 3x/week LP for my squats to get from 100 1rm to say 130/140 1rm as long as it's consistent?
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>>37104684
>trappy chan's going to medschool so he can learn to cut his own dick off.
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>>37104738

If you're eating well then yeah.

>>37104412

Very nice vid.
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>tfw no trappy gf
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>>37104621
yi upper back should be relaxed like how the chest should be relaxed and open/alive instead of inflated out.
i kno that powerlifters say that and have very narrow grip in squat but i was told not to do that.

>>37104486
you should add weight
as for programming i dont think it matters too much as long as you focus on technique and gradual strength and works with your schedules.

i working on that russian 3 day spreadsheet tho

i think pic related is preperation phase but idk yet
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>>37104684
Trappy could you please share that collection of routines where it has like examples of 3 and 4 day routines? I have been looking for it.
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>>37104830

http://fitsticky.com/novice-programs
http://fitsticky.com/intermediate-programs
http://fitsticky.com/texas-method

Or are you talking about the Takano spreadsheets?
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>Coach says feet to side during snatch
>Torokhity and Klokov say feet back

Sweating frog.jpg
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>>37104870
Nope that's the one. I was especially thinking about the Texas Method one. Thank you. I am about to transition from SS and I want to start a split routine that doesn't suuuuuuck.
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>>37104894

Klokov says slide feet to the sides, not back.

>>37104896

Those are just examples though, feel free to customise it to fit your goals.
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>>37104915
Oh but some are back, which do I do?
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>>37104922

Sides is the optimal.
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>>37104742
Hey fuck you
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>>37104937
yo traps can i do texas method but do accessories on the 'off' days? ie, AaBbCcx where CAPS = COMPOUNDS DAYS, small letters = non-compound isolation crap.
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>>37104993

What does the routine look like?
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reasons not to squat jerk GO
(i have the flexibility, can do webm related)
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>>37105105

how do u even get the flexbility for that

tips?
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>>37105127
stretched the everloving fuck out of my pecs for like 7 or 8 minutes tbqh, + the prerequisite flexibility for atg overhead squat
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claim your waifu

I claim Rinoa from FF8
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>>37105105
It's harder on your shoulders and knees and maybe other stuff.

You're more likely to miss your lifts doing a squat jerk.

Squat jerks are overall harder and require more energy.

IF you can move more weight with a squat jerk, those 3 points alone may not make it worth it.

There's lots of other reasons, the same reasons not everybody does squat jerks instead of split/occasionally power.
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>>37105105

today was the first time I successfully did a shitty bar only overhead squat.

i've been doing snatch grip squats with just the bar. extending into an overhead position and holding it. am i doing it right? I can feel my upper back churning and morphing
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>>37105277
checked, but
>It's harder on your shoulders and knees and maybe other stuff.
the way you phrased that is kind of dubious desu, do you have any sources on that?
>You're more likely to miss your lifts doing a squat jerk.
n-not if i practice them
>Squat jerks are overall harder and require more energy.
this is a valid point i will admit. hmm
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>>37105105

Personal preference, really.
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>>37105358
>today was the first time I successfully did a shitty bar only overhead squat.
it'll probably take a while to get a clean grip ohs, keep stretchin'
>extending into an overhead position and holding it
in the bottom position? my coach had me doing them while squatting down, so that your arms locked out as you reached bottom position
either way is legit i think
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>>37105105
It's shit
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>>37105361
lower margin for error
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>>37105406
What is he trying to prove with his facial expression?
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>>37105461
no u
>>37105489
but why? there's no footwork involved (the main reason i want to switch from split) and you can go further under the bar before locking out, right? so it should be easier...
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>>37105410
yes from the bottom position.i can actually feel my thoracic mobility limiting me.
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what do you guys think is the most intense calorie burning weight lifting exercise. I did squats with heaviest dumbells I can hold each hand (30 pounds) 5 sets of 20-15 and dayum did I sweat.
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Beginner here.

I've realized I can't do these lifts on my own, so I've been looking around for a coach. The problem is that the only coaches close by are cross shit dudes. With that being said, they do olympic lifts on the side and one is even certified by the Olympics.

Should I deal with it and be instructed by someone who will likely propagandize cross fit?
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>>37105557
but goodluck if the bar happens to be a little bit in front or behind, with split you can easily move your feet to stabilize a moving bar
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>>37104805
Oooo looks pretty, I'm looking forward to seeing it once you have finished it
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>>37104922
A little hop backwards isn't necessarily a bad thing, for some people they can do better when they jump back a little, you should ask your coach why he wants you to jump back because he probably has a good reason for it
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>>37105761

If you make it clear you don't care about crossfit and want to learn WL, I doubt they're gonna be bothering you about crossfit.
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>>37105761
You'll always have better progress with a coach, even an average coach, if they can't perform the lifts then I wouldn't, but if they are right into Weightlifting then they will likely be quite useful to you as a beginner

Self coaching is a pain, you have to be fully autistic if you want to improve
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>>37105557
>you can go further under the bar before locking out, right? so it should be easier...

That is an advantage but if that was not the limiting factor, which it is unlikely to be for you, it's not easier.

Unless you're cleaning massive weights that you can't split (and you have trained the split for years), go with the technique that doesn't require you to do a full squat, and is more reliable.

>>37105761

if you can find a crossfit coach that is USAW certified (or your national federation), not the crossfit certification, and just do their "barbell club" program you should be fine.
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>>37105824

I don't really see any way where jumping back could be an advantage. Doing it a little isn't the worst thing there is, but any non-vertical movement is not optimal.
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>>37105260
claimed
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I'm gonna give that lifting class teacher the old what for

gonna be like

hey

can i do my own program


Then if that doesnt work i have a plan that cant fail for it


if i have proper AM sessions my result should improve and if i stop doing lifts that dont have specificity then my result should improve
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>>37106281
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>>37105260
Mashiro Mitsumine from mikakunin de shinkokei
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>>37105260
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>>37105260
Come on guys, cats are cute, girls are cute, only way to get perfection is to mix them.

>>37106459
Stoic girls are best girls
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>>37106570
bossy lolis <3

also my wife is part cat
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I have compiled a list of meme exercises for you /owg/, based on the crossfit 'weightlifting routine' my friend sent me to do

-overhead squat
-squat jerk
-push jerk
-dumbbell snatch
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>>37106655
What about Sumo Deadlift High Pulls?

>>37106618
Damn nice taste, I thought she was full fox or something
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>>37106655
yeah i dont do any of those so they're mem excercises
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>>37106689

haha I completely forgot about that, also kb swings
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>>37106655
Are you making fun of me
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>>37106942

no 2 weeks ago I told a friend who does crossfit coaching that I'm giving up on everett's programming

the routine he gave me had snatching once a week, cj once a week, and the rest were huge amounts of squats, overhead squats, push jerk, and db snatches, with kb swings as his 'active rest' days
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>>37106977
I write active rests too tho
Who do you take me as
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>>37106655
is your friend my gymbro?

telling him tomorrow his program is garbage and doing my own thing
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>>37107023

asking for trappy rares is not active rest

>>37107047

you should do a good program and make big progress in classics then tell him it's because of kettlebell swings
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>>37107075
Yeah, that's high demanding activity
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my chest gives me trouble when I add weight on dips (maybe xyphoid process, idk). Ideas for progressively overloading on dips without relying on adding weight? I can do 6x20 at bodyweight, which just feels excessive.
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>>37106287

It's been so long since I've had to answer to anyone with the authority to dictate the particulars of my life to me. Definitely don't miss high school.
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>>37104180
>filename
Well played. Also, no.
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>>37104937
Depends entirely on your build desu

Klokov isn't the be all and end all
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>>37106655
Overhead squat and push jerk are decent tho
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>>37105536
That he's the boss.
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>>37109074

No, backwards movement of the feet is usually due to bad technique of bad bar path. It's not something you actively want. Though it can save a miss if your bar path is bad.
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>>37104894
imo ideal is slightly back slightly out to the sides

i'm pretty sure bulgarians teach to jump backwards, or did
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>>37109817
So you're saying all those elite lifters who jump backwards have bad technique?

Lmao
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>>37109817
>>37109870
Jumping back and moving feet out are two entirely different things tho, and aren't mutually exclusive

I can't think of anyone who pulls with the same feet position as they catch, even lu, who's movement is very minimal, still moves
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>>37110039

Yes. Not all of them, but yes.

Trappy-chan posts Godelli all the time and he's a good example of bad technique and still having results.

>>37110052

You're not supposed to jump back. But as I said it can save a bad pull. A bit of displacement is not the end of the world.
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>>37110194
>you're not suppose to

This is like saying you're 'not supposed to' pick you feet up. There are no rules about jumping back, and seeing as the bar path isn't straight anyway, you can still have proper technique with a small backwards movement. Nothing to do with 'saving lifts'.
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>>37110194
Break down exactly what is 'bad' about godelli's lifting
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Why can't America send non-hamplanets to the olympics? IT's fucking disgusting. There is no way that extra weight helps them. Mostly talking about women obvi. It's like fucking SJWs are taking over everything.
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If I pull all of my working sets/warm-ups sumo, something like

1pl8 x 8
2pl8 x 8
3pl8 x 5
4pl8 x 3

but then when I get to 4.5-5 plate territory I switch to conventional (for doubles and singles, my PR is 485)

Am I holding back my progression? I can't lift as much sumo, I've just made the switch like 3 months ago. I'm working on flexibility and mobility every day, deadlifting 2-3 times a week, my numbers keep going up slowly with the conventional, but I fail 455 in a sumo stance each time I try it. I've asked people to watch my form on heavy conventional pulls and they say there is almost no rounding, straight backed and in one motion. But I just can't lift as much sumo yet...

Would just like some of your opinions on this, please and thank you
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>>37110766
Ask /plg/ desu
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>>37110782
Fuck off with your sumo no reps
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>>37110766
wrong thread kid
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fuuug I thought I posted this in plg

mb familia
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>>37110194
https://youtu.be/9K3hdEWvs3s

You're saying this is a bad pull?

Jeez
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>>37110802
Yeah, she cut it short. Should get a coach.
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>>37110712

I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's clearly not a very "clean" technique.
Here's his Snatch.

>>37110802

To be fair analysing technique of world records is kinda pointless.
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>>37110712

And here's Lü's (same weightclass) Snatch. >>37104937

You can see it's a lot more stable and "clean", even though the weight is considerably heavier.
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>>37110887
Oh but analysing godelli's best snatch is?

Don't be dumb trappy, they're both max efforts.
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>>37105864
what happened here
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>>37110916
So you just established analysing max efforts is pointless but then did it anyway ;^)
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>>37110850
Good effort at memeing
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>>37110942
>>37110921

I didn't express myself well. What I meant by "analysing technique of world records is kinda pointless" is arguing whether it's bad or not.
What anon asked was whether it was a bad pull or not.

Analysing technique is always a good thing. Simply judging whether technique is good or bad, specially from world records, is pointless.
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>>37111027
R u retarded holy shit
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>>37110748
but they do? you just dont know shit
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What stretches should I do to be able to do overhead squats?
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>>37110928

The rotational moment of the plates wasn't disperse by the rotation of the sleeves enough.
Couple that with holding the bar too far forward and he couldn't manage to secure the lift.

Bars nowadays have a smoother, "freer" rotation of the sleeves.
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>>37111155

Ankle mobility
Shoulder external rotation mobility and overhead stability
Hip mobility if yours is bad
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>>37111200
What do you think of her tech trappy? Yesterday i asked you if it is bad that your heels come off the floor before bar makes contact. It looks like her heels have already come off the floor when the bar makes contact at the hip. Same happens to me, just slightly..
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>>37111297
>implying trappy's knowledge of technik goes beyond klokov youtub

;^)
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>>37111027
So you think the pull of someone setting a world record is gonna be wildly different from their opener?
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>>37104412
how do you do that teeth trick?
I doubt someone with a hairdo like that can actually pull it off
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>>37111341
>Le ebin lets hate trappy meme
Grow up kiddo, trappy does some quality work for /fit/, and people here don't even understand that you can argue about things without starting a fight, but thats what they teach only for educated people, not kids ;^)
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>>37111389
>does some quality work for /fit/

only mentally ill people think that and we only have one of those in here, guess who
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>>37111297

It's easier if you post a vid of yours.

Her heels come off before the bar contacts the hip because the hip contact doesn't happen at the start of the triple extension.
But the bar is already in contact with the thighs, "sliding" over it.
You can see her ankle movement is coordinated with the rest of the extension and the contact of the bar.
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>>37111424
We all are mentally ill in a some way, kid. Its not something worth crying about.
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>>37111132
Sarah Robles just needs to be put out to pasture, tᶀh fâm
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>>37111389
Take a joke you dick loving whiteknight. It's just bants lad.

But srs, when it comes to general advice trappy is decent but her knowledge drops off quickly when it comes to Olympic lifting. That's not a criticism, she hasn't been lifting that long herself and it's a sport that takes years yknow.

Just chill lad
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>>37111466
My pet peeve is 'triple extension'. I think only Americans use/teach it

Idk why I hate it, it makes sense, but I just don't like it

What's wrong with me
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>>37111487
>Trappy is decent
Are you serious or jelly? She has done her homework when it comes to lifting desu senpai
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>>37111507

It's just a name.
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>>37111539
Serious. There are many more qualified people out there, many people who are as well read, and /fit over the years has had better, and a shitload worse of course

The reason why people whiteknight trappy and love her (like you) is because she's a trap (4chan loves this) and a cute one. She's not stupid, she knows, she plays up to it, and fair play to her

But you 100% wouldn't be here sticking up for someone with the same knowledge that looked like supermang. Let's not be stupid here.
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>>37111542
It's just so American and Americans are bad
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Is this look coming back?

Could see commie with a 70s do and the nipples out
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>>37111644

I would, and have, stick up for anyone who gives good advice.

Go be a salty cancerous bitch somewhere else.
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>>37111946
Lol nah youre the one sad fuxker who follows her round to pounce on anyone who dares question queen trappy but sure OK lad if you say so
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>>37112014

I can't wait for the day you give up and leave /owg/

It's incredibly annoying to have you crying about trappy on every single fucking thread.
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BREHS my shoes finally came in the mail.
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>>37111542
You should make technique videos trappy-chan. At least a webm.
>inb4 I just wanna see butt
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>>37112041
>>37112014 (You)

I can't wait for the day you give up and leave /owg/

It's incredibly annoying to have you whiteknighting trappy on every single fucking thread.
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>>37112188

Nice, what shoes?
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>>37112284

And I'm not even a burger lmao

The heel height on these is pretty great desu senpai. Going to lift in them tomorrow and see how they feel.
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>>37112347

>Shoulda just give bowling desu
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>>37112347

Risto stuff is pretty nice. They feel pretty "raw" when compared to the plastic industrial Adidas/Nike stuff.
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Why don't we discuss on the eighchan weightlifting board in secret instead of getting fucked by fit and trappy and memes and plg and shit?
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>>37112528

Yeah please do that so we don't have to deal with you anymore.
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>>37112539
>doesn't contribute anything to /owg/
>makes low quality posts for no good raisin
>complains about others trying to improve the discussion space

What are you doing with your life?
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>>37112509
You haven't worn them shut the fuck up
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>>37112721

>being this salty about an internet tranny
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>>37111539
>She has done her homework

Literally, she has. You need to do more than read books however to know what you're talking about in regards to weightlifting.
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>>37111851

Broz's lifter is just dressing to match the era of his training style and doping techniques.
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>>37112721

They are made here in Latin America, if you didn't know.
I haven't worn one myself but I've touched them, one of the lifters in my gym has a Tiburon.
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>>37112879
Do you wear makeup to make yourself look white?
I see your big nigger lips in your pics desu... pretty groce senpai.
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I squat 5s and rest 3/4 minutes and the other lifters (stronger than me) say that's like a max and that I should rest 90 seconds max. They bully me about it in a bantering way. I can't say anything since I'm weaker but what is the right amount of rest to take?

These guys think 3-5mins is way too long?
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>>37113039
take as long as you like. I only reduce my rest times when the gym is busy and someone else wants to use the squat rack
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>>37113079
Yeah that's what I thought but my opinion doesn't hold any value since I'm weaker. It lets me keep good form and no breakdown.

It's kind of annoying when they point that stuff out. I'm a few months away from (lifting about a year) squatting the same as one guy who has been lifting for 6 years and maybe a a year away from the other who's been lifting 7 years but I can never say anything because I'm new to WL so everything I do must be wrong.
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>>37113039
>These guys think 3-5mins is way too long?

It's not really, but there are benefits to improving your conditioning.
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>>37113039
If you're squatting heavy (f-for you) then 5 minutes is fine.
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>>37113136
>but my opinion doesn't hold any value since i'm weaker
Don't let me hear you say that ever again anon
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>>37112840
Tru

Buy commie is that era too
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>>37113039

Rest as long as you need if you're maxing out. 4-5min is what most people rest, but 6-8min rests are not uncommon if squatting or deadlifting very heavy weights. Just rest as long as you feel it's necessary.

If you're specifically trying to improve your endurance for a specific reason (you should focus on getting stronger first, you'll be gaining endurance as well along the way), or are not maxing out, then you can take shorter rests.

I doubt those other lifters squat very heavy anyways. You'll be catching up to them pretty fast, then you can rub it on their face kekk
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>>37113633
S-sure


They are 170kg 1RM and 220kg 1RM

I'm at 145kg
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>>37113039
I've done smolov cycles where I was resting 10 minutes in between sets

lying on the floor

wishing for death
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Rest what you need for squats within reason but don't get in that habit with classics if u wanna compete senpai
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>>37110887
his tech is pretty bad
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>>37111851
maybe
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>>37113633
god dammit I fucking love that dude so much, I actually keep that entire video on my /fit/ folder and watch it every other day for motivation gains

>tfw chalk blowing out of his hand

probably why he fucked up his wrist tho, that explosiveness is inhumane
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>>37113479
he probably uses modern doping techniques
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>>37107972
I talked to him today

turns out he thought i was doing my own program anyway or something

Get to write my program without restrictions now nice
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How's this for the op
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>>37113887

This vid is so hype https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-hOSpV0TXI

>>37114341

back squat instead of front squat pls kekkk
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>>37114341
Who's big booty?
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>>37114411
Dimas is a beast

And slightly on topic of thread as his technique isn't exactly textbook
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>>37114341
Not a bad idea BUT

Include bs too

And only add lifts you've seen evidence for eg video or meet result
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Guys, please i'm in love.
share everything you got
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>>37114526
i wanted to just have front squat because it's sort of our excercise

in the future i wanted to have pics of everyone and vids of their lifts but this is a primitive version
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>>37114594
You should specify wwho is unconfirmed to stop potential e statting
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>>37114640
I think caladan and trappy are the only ones i havent seen do the lifts
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>>37114411
hey trappy, i was reading the sticky and i saw this part:

> Alternatively, the trainee can just increase the amount of sets they do for the main lifts. This is usually done in the form of "backoff sets" after the main sets. For example, the lifter does his 3x5 Squat sets normally, then take a bit of weight off the bar and do two or three extra sets.

(in the section on increasing volume when stalling).

could you be a bit more specific as to how much weight you'd take off for these lower-weight sets?
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How strong b4 I can namefag?
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>>37114723
like 5 or 10 kilos
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>>37114723
I would use as much weight as you can for the amount of sets/reps desired, realizing you're also tired from your heavy sets so it's less than you ideally could use for the same sets/reps fresh
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>>37114757
thanks, man!
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>>37114341
mystery pas wow
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>>37114411
Do you have brain damage holy shit.

I wonder what kind of backwater med school accepted a little transgender boy who can barely speak English.
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>>37114770
ye gibe ur stats

hand em over
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>>37114833
theyre on my ig lol
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>>37114678
They're the two I'm most skeptical of
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>>37114754
180 total seems to be the norm lol

Unless you wear women's clothes then it's like 100
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>>37114818

Trip on Pas
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Aside from starting at an early age.

What should someone who's new to weightlifting do/remember if they would like to become a very very good lifter? What can I do starting today that will hugely benefit my start or give me an edge?
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>>37114461

He barely even went down on this power jerk. Too explosive.
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>>37114920
gotta do dat technique

and train frequently
>>37114846
what is front squat
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>>37114942

So if I say for example, I want to do the most I can to be the best I can be in a few years time.

What would I start doing right now?
What programming would you recommend?
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>>37114942
not a competition lift in any sport
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>>37114971
Do the steroids and don't compete when you can be tested

Then start smashing records when you're strong enough and you'll be all clean by that time
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>>37114973
pas

idc give me your best fs
>>37114971
do a period of learning technique and gpp also strength training

then bulgarian training because it's superior

>>37115006
dont start right off the bat tho

have a few years of training before trenin
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>>37115037
>bulgarian training
Isn't that a meme?

Also, any recommended starter programs for that? There's quite a few.
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>>37115037
>have a few years of training before trenin
why?
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>>37115037
I had a max of maybe 150 bs when I started now I'm at a very easy 255 tested last year my lifts are 147/180 last time I maxed

I'm gonna smash some shit in the next few years watch out lad I'm a 105

Won't post face tho :))
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>>37114971
Go somewhere and surround yourself with likeminnded people and lift hard.
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>>37115080
look at girth brooks

do u want to be him
>>37115079
yeah but it works

alternatively get deliugee to be your coach
>>37115127
not enough
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>>37115169
Bulgarian for squats while developing classic tech?
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>>37115247
just do SS or something to develop your body

Do the gpp though
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>>37114939
Crazy

One of the guys at the gym was telling me his coach said at dimas heyday everyone was trying to emulate the head flick which was a bit of a nightmare haha
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>>37115169
Girth brooks is lol
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>>37115037
no :^)
ur formatting sucks
http://pastebin.com/q5XnfuH2
something like this wouldnt hurt so much 2 read desu senpai
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Pent is really only 81kg?

He really only done 91/102?

He's been lifting a while and had Korea coach I thought he'd done more

Maybe I'm confused cos he squatted alot?

No hate just surprised I'm close to his nunbers and I a shit
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>>37115505
thought I saw him c+j 3pl8 b4??
thought he was a strongman damn.. he was my idol.
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>>37114818
>tfw the fucking trap is ruining the little glimmer of greatness that was left on /fit/
maybe i'll actually quit browsing 4chan due to this faggot, maybe there will be some good to come out of it
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>>37115169
Girth always been strong he's just shit at lifting currently and doesn't work on his shit pull lmao

He said his squats have been the same even before wl
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>>37115593

Please do, we'll all be thankful.
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>>37114853
I coach cal so I see his lifts on the reg
They p ugg
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>>37115818
To make the official list you should have to have it public

Don't trust u namefags. Looking after ur own.
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>>37115710
thank you skeleton
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>>37114341
who's the last 2 100kg fat asses?

the guy from uk that posted here once?
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diane food is in china training, will she become next deligue
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Hang cleans.
I just added them to my routine, I'm starting with light weight until I get the hang of it.
My sticking point is the catch, I know you're not supposed to hold the bar like a press, rather catch with the body like front squats

I was never good at that position, my arms just don't stretch back like that - when I landed in the correct position though, my wrists really hurt (not sharp pain).
Is the pain just me getting used to it, and I should push through until I get used to that flexibility?
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>>37116256

Here's a good stretch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8eZXfJiaY
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>>37115321
this is quite cool to know, thanks for sharing
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>>37116316
R u bullying me
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deliugee told me to be more upright. so i did.

330lbs
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>>37115304
Ok thanks, I thought SS was a meme or is it pretty good for squat strength?

>Tfw your squat will never look good and vertical unless you get god tier ankle and hip mobility which will takes years

:(
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>>37116381
Mr. K??
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>>37116107
no not bulklyfe
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>>37116626
then who
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>>37116576

the "le rippetoe lowbar GOMAD no curls allowed" thing is a meme

doing 3x5 or 5x5 on squat and progressing linearly is not.
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>>37116672
Mystery man
I don't know why he's on that list tho he's never posted here
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>>37116880
one of them did

pent told me to put both on list
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>>37116843

Ah okay then thanks man.

My form is okay right now I guess but I will just slowly try to improve it over time.

Hopefully I can ride LP to at least 140kg squat.
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>>37116946
Is one eoin?
Bulk lyf should be on but maybe have a key like 'inactive' 'unverified' etc
If u gonna do it do it properly
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>>37116962
Bw and current stats?

I got to 140 for reps on LP at a lanky (6'1) 76kg it's not that lofty a goal will come quick mate goodluk have fun
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>>37116977
gibe me bulklyfe stats and i'll but him on there
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>>37116992

~75kg 5'9 and right now my 3x5 is 105kg so 1RM about 125kg.

I've been eating a lot and it seems to be going smoothly. I've seen a few people with my height get to 140 for reps too now that I think about it.
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>>37115889

trust me they're disgusting. not lying about the numbers, but they're shameful looking lifts (which I am only aware of now). He said I front squat like a powerlifter
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>>37117046
cause you never posted your lifts for form checks or anything, we coulda ripped you a new one before this ugly chink did with how long you've been posting here and you probably would be slightly better now if you did
but u didnt
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>>37117088

probs would be yeah, fully accept it was dumb of me. I've been stuck on those numbers for ages (except fs, that's as of a few months ago)
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someone pls be skeptical of my lifts i wanna feel involved
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>>37105105
long femurs cause a slight change in center of gravity when dropping down. this makes it more difficult to maintain balance.
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>>37116625

?????
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>>37117157

her and jaworske are qts
murkan wl girls love to show off but I'm not complaining
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>>37105105
just because you can do it with a bar doesnt mean you can with max weights

you need a lot of shoulder mobility for it and if they don't internally rotate with your jerk grip you will always lose them forward

watch lu xiaojun/apti's arms on the jerks they got good internal rotation even with a relatively narrow grip for them
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>>37117235
>qts
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>>37117157
that ass
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>>37117284
>literally 2 obese women compared to the thousand new wl strong qts right now

ur meme is stank
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>>37117284

in any other setting, they would be average 7/10
but if someone's doing a hobby/sport you enjoy, they automatically gain multiple points of attractiveness. Mattie Rogers for example

look at Hisaka, the dude's decently attractive but not a 10. Yet I've seen him at a WL event here in LA and he was swamped with tons of hot crossfit chicks trying to get some of his clen-infused love juice
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>>37117335
Lel, didn't one of Hisaka's gf get busted for tren or something cause she swallowed his cum?
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>>37117349

this was the alleged story (also I think they were just banging, not together)

more likely is just she was using like every other competitive athlete and found a fairly lame excuse to 'leak'

have you seen lehr's excuses? Lame as shit
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>>37117349
>cause she swallowed his cum?

no that's bullshit from max aita. pretty sure he's the one who spread that rumor around so he can come off clean, he's the coach so he probably knew what was going on
>>
do you screw your feet to the ground when squatting?
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>>37117371
Who is Lehr? What happened to him?
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>>37117394
yeah get an impact driver so you can unscrew it real quick once you're done with the set would be a hassle to do it by hand every time
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>>37117382

she didn't dispute it though, did she?
Did Aita call the cops on Hisaka or was that someone else
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>>37117335
>7/10...
Caladan pls
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>>37117404
Srs no memes

I thought you just push off your heels. Do you balance weight on heels, big and small toes?
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>>37117402
danny lehr co owner of caffeine and kilos, he got busted for ostarine and some other shit, he said he asked an unnamed athlete for some creatine because it's a habit that he takes creatine before lifting but he somehow forgot to pack them to the nationals

so he asked someone and he got some pills apparently not creatine and was a supplement with ostarine and the other shit on it, then he got tested because he placed 1st in the B session (lol)

his test showed traced amounts if his story was real he would have elevated amounts not trace amounts meaning he was cycling off that shit

spitz was calling him pedestrian, saying he was hitting pedestrian numbers and then getting caught

>>37117411
max asked for a restraint on hisaka because scott said he would kill max if he was the one behind it. it's mainly posted on forums i dont think charis cares enough to clear those things up
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>>37117437
Balance weight
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>>37117461
Isn't cal strength sponsored by C and K, will this ban affect hem in any way?
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>>37117485
they can just drop them, they dont get any monetary support i dont think, c&k just dick rides cal strength for the free ads on their youtube and the lifters instagram then they give them free shirts, coffee and some jackets sometime

danny lehr cant train anyone now though, he was coaching a few athletes at some crossfit near where he lives
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>>37117461

the reddit thread where lehr's story was posted offers a point by point debunking that's a pleasure to read, you've probably seen it

https://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/comments/4hvpnb/daniel_lehr_coowner_of_caffeine_kilos_accepts/d2sqssw

keks were had

>>37117417

too high or too low? I live in LA and they're your basic decent blondes, would smash with no regrets
would not wife tho
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>>37117461

source on spitz?

So many rumors about the max/charis thing, the sanction hasn't even been released yet
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>>37117561
>too high or too low?

You better stop meming there buddy
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>>37117572
none because this was said in person
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>>37117582

pls it's all I know
maybe a 6 I guess but as I said, the weightlifter effect

the pc muscle control makes sex way better
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>>37117614
It's all about dat catapulting
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>>37117614
Matty Rogers is literal perfection you pleb
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you will never have a wl qt jump up to hug u after their successful attempt ;((
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>>37117794
>>
>coach tells me i should put hips higher on snatch start position
>i dont like it
help
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>>37110052
>I can't think of anyone who pulls with the same feet position as they catch

Kang Yue, Rob Blackwell
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>>37118160
yeah rob blackwell is so good nice example
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>>37118264
R u being serious or are you trying to make fun of him
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>>37118340
I would never joke about such a respectable athlete
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>>37118391
No I'm saying the guy who just posted for saying blackwell

Idk if you like murrica athletes I don't remember you hating on them like the other name weak fucks
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>>37118438
i like some US athletes

not rob blackwell
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>>37117970

you should try it for a while, I think it really helps with a better bar path
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>>37118438
how strong are you? can you post video?
>inb4 you wont
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>>37111381
how does hair affect your lifts
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>>37118438
Btw i recognize your condescending tone faggot. you constantly try to pick fight and insults namefags, so i'm really curious about your lifts and how you formed that massive ego of yours. so please i hope you post videos.
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>>37118711
>>37118868
ur not worthy of my time weak fuck
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>>37118160
Lu xiaojuns feet doesn't even move during the triple extension
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>>37119965
that's just wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lFEpP89xQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqrBaArr1uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vFzCD6DWQ
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>>37119965

they do. I think Blackwell is unusual in that he starts with a foot position that simply looks too wide

Maybe it's how cal strength lifters are taught, or maybe it's because of Blackwell, but it's a very common trait for them and often looks to hold some of them back
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>>37120299
It's just rob and David that I can remember that have wide stance, it's something that's not taught

The coach barely coaches anyone anyway


Rob has a good snatch, he's just very very weak his strength numbers hasn't gone up at all since moving to 94s he said on ig it's due to the back injury he had but I doubt that. I think it's just the coach is clueless, even Scott while clearly on gear didn't even get to Dylan coopers strength level. Cooper has been training for 2 years something he out squats everyone at cs except Wes
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>>37120431

did you watch that jake pudenz guy? he valgused on the second pull from what I saw. If the coach isn't teaching it I think some of the guys are emulating rob. Do you reckon rob has lost the motivation to excel and he just enjoys coasting? There are lots of ways to get stronger if you're an 85 only squatting 210 and hoping to be competitive. I would be surprised if he's natty, to boot

david is good though, not really fussed about what he does
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>>37120503
Jake is a remote athlete I don't think Dave even bothers with him anymore since he's not a very special athlete, Dave is an asshole he only likes working with those gifted athletes since he doesn't have to work very hard with them but he can still get his name out there for "developing" these people
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>>37120503
And rob has done 210x5 I think before the back injury as an 85

He's struggling to squat 190 for reps right now for some reason
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>>37120582

that kinda sucks. That seems to be the vibe I get though so maybe I'm being hard on him

>>37120595

what was the injury?
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>>37120615
Herniated disc I think, it was a back injury took him out for a couple months

Then he made a post on ig a couple of weeks ago I think mentioning the injury and saying its one of the reasons he hasn't pushed his strength up
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>>37120689

I fucked up my back a few weeks ago and it's got me worried it's a vertebral problem, so I guess I can kinda see how that would mess with you
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>>37115085

Are you that fat Mexican cunny?
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>>37117130

They're good tho bb ur my favorite lifter on here
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>>37115710
Move knees outwards more.
>>
I have tight hamstrings but feel literally nothing when I try and foam roll them, no pain or anything to indicate a tight spot

What do?
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>>37122241
*soreness, not pain baka
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>>37122241
>>37122249

stretch and you'll get it all even if you can't feel it
also make sure it's not popliteus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVRJvoeepAI

WHY ISN'T LU MY DAD
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>>37122337
How can I get the mobility to move so effortlessly like he does in the beginning? :_:
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>>37117130
Do you do around 140/170? I have never seen videos
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>>37111466
Did he deliberately start oscillating the bar just before the jerk? look at that minidip before the dip
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>>37124540
Yes, Tian Tao does that too.
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>>37124540
>>37124611
Yeah and if the judges see it as deliberate oscillation you will get a red light
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>>37124540
>implying it would make a big difference
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>>37124660
No one has ever been red lighted for deliberate oscillation, even other coaches tried to point it out against Lu in 2011 but the judges didn't care
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>>37124869
Have you ever watched a comp? It happens, it's in the rules. Sure It gets past the judges alot but there was at least one guy red lighted at euros for it
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>>37124857
Well it does as the weights get heavier hence why it isn't allowed.
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>>37124971
literally the only time it happened, and that was due to aramnau being a fat piece of shit and not standing still before the jerk, ilya does the same thing but he stops for a sec before the jerk, aramnau used to as well but it looks like he was out of shape and just rushed to complete the lift since he was passing out after each clean holding his breath like he normally does
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>>37125014
Lol it's not the only time it's happened in comp silly

There was a guy in the 69 who was red lighted but jerked it and missed anyway, but that was oscillation

In worlds it happened during women's, also in 2014

It's rare, similar to people missing lifts cos taking hands off bar before it passes shoulders, but it happens at least once at every major comp. I've seen it once at local level too

Only ever happened once, watchu talmbout
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>>37105864
fukkin rigged
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>>37111158
Good bars* ;^) I've trained on bars with no spin and it is nastyyyy

Also, Liao wit the inside out knee sleeve swag
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>>37125014

I suspect that if you find a way to stand still but keep the oscillation, they won't call you. If you keep microbending to maintain it then they'll call it out. I think it's probably coached out of most lifters by the time they're advanced enough to use the bounce

comm would say it's politics :^)
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>>37129067
That's what Ilya does and aramnau like I said he was probably out of shape and was rushing his lifts

Aramnau has to jerk faster since he holds his breath from the clean through the jerk for some reason
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guys commisar followed me on insta im so happy :)
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>>37129676

choo choo choo
FBI train coming for you too
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>>37129697

How dare you insult my commisar like that
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new thred >>37130052
new thred >>37130052
new thred >>37130052
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>>37125014
the jerk is legal as long as you stand still now
the bar can be oscillating as much as you want
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new threads

>>37131488
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How is Pent's C&J so weak? Is he injured?
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