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The cutest governor edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Doctor Aphra #4 (February 8th)

>Rebels 3.13: " Trials of the Darksaber
https://mega.nz/#!ZIlFXRgY!OqC3-RV8vZ1pcD8k-mkn4IvTeGp23PyrY13gbyj5xsE

>Rebels Recon: Trials of the Darksaber
https://youtu.be/netG0u3D2F0 [Embed]
>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>89812485
Second for the cutest Inky
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>there are still people refusing to accept that Jango just isn't Mandalorian and are resorting to weird justification as to how he could be

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/5t8y63/theory_how_jango_fett_could_still_be_a_mandalorian/
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>>89812598
delete this NOW
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>>89812598
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>>89812598
I like how he acknowledges that Pablo said he's not Mandalorian but still tries to find a way around it.
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>>89812485
Who is this cutie?
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>>89812598
>>89812635
Welcome to the internet, where you're either an idiot or an asshole. There's no in-between, but there's often some combination.
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>>89812724
Homer Simpson, sir.

One of your honey bunnies from Sector 7-G.
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>>89812769
Simpson, eh?
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>>89812724
Best Governorfu
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>>89812598
What does it even matter at this point? So what if the Fetts aren't mandos.
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>>89812741
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>>89812877
BEIGE KNOCKERS
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>>89812928
Some people just can't let go.
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>have to wait another week for another episode of rebels
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>>89813008
life is truly suffering when the only reason for living is star wars
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>>89812598
>people still won't let this go
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>>89812598
What is it that stops people from enjoying Boba/Jango if they're not Mangos?
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>>89813197
Autism.
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>>89813197
Mandofag autism
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>>89812877
That rank insignia plaque is clinging on for dear life. They really should be worn centered instead of off to the side.
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>>89812598
/r/ing the pic of reddit saying Rogue One would be shit because Lucas liked it
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>>89813575
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>>89813575
Found it
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>>89812877
Pryce is an old hag
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>>89813502
It's a side effect of her THICC titties.
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>>89813749
>refusing to bow down before our titty monster mistress
Rebel scum.
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why did the empire stop using clone, they were better fights then the stormtrooper?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tr5k05NBw
Seeing the Infinites comics and the attached meme kino makes me wish that they'd finally make ones for the Prequels.

TPM: Obi-Wan is killed by Maul instead and Qui-Gon falls to the Dark Side
AOTC: Obi-Wan joins Dooku to take down Sheev
ROTS: Video game alternate ending (Anakin kills Obi-Wan and the Emperor)
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>>89812598
But the fact that he isn't Mando says way more about Jango than if he was actually Mando
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>>89814112
1. Not fighting a war anymore
2. Viable samples of Jango DNA running out
3. Takes 10 years to get battle-ready soldiers
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>>89813749
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>>89813998
>>89814179
>he wants to get dommed by a evil old hag that'll probably torture you too
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>>89812558
Sorry, wrong pic.
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>>89814113
>Qui-Gon falling to the dark side
I have a hard time believing he'd fall that easily. The EU tried something like this too where his waifu dying made him snap.
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>>89814345
>that'll probably torture you too#
Even better.
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>>89814358
>Not posting femGrinky.
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>>89814345
>implying any of this is bad
They finally made a SW girl for me, you can still have your flat-assed Mando or your orange buttcheeks Anon.
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/02/star-wars-weekly-buzz-bob-iger-comments-on-the-last-jedi-hasbro-reveals-news-toys-for-star-wars-40th-anniversary-and-more.html

Star Wars Weekly Buzz
>This week on the Weekly Buzz we have: Bob Iger comments on The Last Jedi, Rosario Dawson wants to play Ahsoka Tano, Jimmy Smits talks Rogue One, new toy reveals from Hasbro for Star Wars’ 40th anniversary, Timothy Zahn is coming to Star Wars Celebration Orlando and more.
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>>89814598
>http://www.artofvfx.com/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-margaux-durand-rival-previs-postvis-supervisor-the-third-floor/
>How was your collaboration with director Gareth Edwards?
>Working with Gareth Edwards was pretty amazing. He has a visual effects artist background so he totally understands previs and how to use it. He can sit next to you while you are working and even grab the mouse to navigate himself in the scene to explain what he wants to see, which is quite unusual for a director. This approach allows us to propose a lot of interactive options, such as using a virtual camera to shoot a scene, for instance. He had such a strong vision that he usually only had to describe what he wanted for a scene and we could clearly see what we had to do to make it work.

Sound a lot like George!
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This is the most handsome jedi. Prove me wrong
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>>89814598
>Rosario Dawson wants to play Ahsoka Tano
Holy shit, she actually has the perfect face for an older Ahsoka.
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>>89814662
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>>89814692
Rosario has a stronger jaw than older Ahsoka, but it could still work.
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>>89814741
You mean Rebels Ahsoka? I've never liked her design because I didn't think her face looked square enough, so I'd be more than happy to see her return to that look.
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>>89814662
Nah, Coleman Kcaj is
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>>89814741
Her whole head would be replaced with CG, so it wouldn't matter.
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>>89814797
Holy fuck I had an orgasm just looking at him, that is weapons grade sexiness
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>>89814797
you mean Pablo Jill?
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>Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka

I could see it. Someone a few threads back suggested Zoe Saldana. Though while she would not at all be a bad choice in my opinion, I think she's already been two too many alien grils.
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Posting cutest Jedi.

>She will never shyly invite you to her chamber to help her tinker on her droids
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>>89814857
>Pablo-Jill with normal legs
Absolutely disgusting
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>>89814818
>Ahsoka Ugly up.jpg
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>>89814857
the fuck is that thing
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>>89815049
Not my fault if you have shit taste. Rebels Ahsoka is a qt3.14
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>>89814345
>not wanting to be Governor Pryce's boy toy
>not wanting her to show up at your door after a hard day's work, hot and sweaty and eager to get out of that restrictive uniform
>not wanting to watch her unbutton her jacket and sigh with relief as she lets those big weighty juggs free
>not wanting to snuggle up in bed with her though she's too tired to do much, and listen to her quiet moans of satisfaction as you suck on her big juicy older lady nipples
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>>89815049
u wot m8
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>>89815214
>all this is precisely what Thrawn did to guarantee his promotions
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>tfw Disney will never make alternate universe comics for Star Wars
>tfw we will never see how Maul would have turned out had he never been taken by Sidious and instead had joined the Jedi Order
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>>89815284
Clumsiest Jedi in the galaxy and a momma's boy...
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38932032
>Forget lightsabers and spaceships, a new university course has been set up to explore the deeper meanings of George Lucas's Star Wars films.
>It will examine how far people can be responsible for their own actions when their destiny is governed by "the force".

>Philosophy teacher John Donaldson will introduce concepts of free will and moral responsibility against the backdrop of the epic space drama.

Can an English Anon apply to this and when they start the course just scream KREIA WAS RIGHT?
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>>89815373
>wasting time and money just to yell a meme once
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>>89815406
But it would be MEMETACULAR
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>>89815373
>wasting time and money

Scotland in a nutshell
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>>89815373
>Jedi trying to push their Light Side Agenda
I can just see it now
Just Sith barging in and preaching that the Dark Side is where it's at
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>>89815284
>tfw we will never see how Maul would have turned out had he never been taken by Sidious and instead had joined the Jedi Order

Why would he have ended up with the Jedi had he not been taken by Sidious?
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>>89815490
Well he was force sensitive was he not?
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>>89814797
Ongree are proof that things with two arms, two legs, and a head aren't always meant to be sexy.
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>>89815490
Anon seems to think that Talzin would have called the Jedi to Dathomir to get Maul, and give away their existence, instead of teaching him to be one of them.

>>89815544
The Jedi don't have a system to find force sensitives from half-way across the galaxy. They have to be called in by the locals that see a kid using the force.
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>>89815544
That's no guarantee of anything. As evidenced by the Nightsisters, being Force sensitive doesn't make you property of the Jedi Order like it used to be.
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>>89813749
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Why is Elrond dressed like Rey?
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>>89813749

She is, and she is not a good waifu. You've been blinded by her knockers, /swco/.
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>>89812598
Uhh.. do you faggots and those faggots realise that the one that said Jango isn't a Mandalorian was a pacifist faction Mandalorian and Mandalorians in general have always gone 'but he's no true Mandalorian' about their rival factions? Death Watch, SuperCommandos, Nu-Mandalorians all say 'they aren't true Mandalorians' to each other.
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what was the point of the Yuuzhan Vong?

and who like?
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>>89815879

Oh dear. Poor Daisy, she's not that ugly.
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>>89814362
Qui-Gon certainly would have rather helped Dooku if he were alive during the Clone Wars. He always thought the Jedi Council makes bad decisions. Dookus revelation that the senate is controlled by Darth Sidious would have been anything he needed to leave the order.
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>>89814385
>>89814524
Have some backbone, anons. Don't give in to the Empire just because of some fat Imperial tits!
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>>89815923
Do you realize that in the featurette for the episode where Almec says Jango isn't a Mandalorian, Filoni confirmed that he isn't one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs21QP1czZg

Or that Pablo has said multiple times that Jango isn't a Mandalorian?

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/693214698003644417

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/672452120424017920

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/704726036680937472

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/781576142738362368
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>>89814936
>>89815054
I know, right? here is Pablo in all hsi glory.
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>>89815879
MR. ANDERSON
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>>89815945
She is.
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>>89816000
Fine trips, however I don't really care what an autistic fat fuck like Pablo says. He literally says random shit to rustle Legendsfags' jimmies. Unless Jango or Boba say 'I'm not a Mandalorian' in a canon source then they are Mandalorian.
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>>89816169
>however I don't really care what an autistic fat fuck like Pablo says.
You should because he is one of the people who helps decide canon.

Even if you discount his tweets Filoni said it in the featurette.

>He literally says random shit to rustle Legendsfags' jimmies.

No he doesn't. He makes fun of how stupid some Legends things were or things he didn't like from Legends, but he doesn't just do it to rustle others' jimmies.

> Unless Jango or Boba say 'I'm not a Mandalorian' in a canon source then they are Mandalorian.
Nope, not how it works. In any case, all canon materials have only referred to them as bounty hunters who wear the armor.
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>>89816060
How he get the pants on?!
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>>89816266
From the looks of things, it was a bit of a stretch
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>>89816297
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As a reminder, midichlorians are a garbage idea.
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>>89816367
Explain why.
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>>89815929
>what was the point of the Yuuzhan Vong?
They were supposed to be something different, IIRC they were originally supposed to be Sith but somewhere down the line they were changed to the Vong

>and who like?
I doubt anyone does.
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>>89816367
You should go hit up your dealer and get us some midi-chlorians, Duke
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>>89815558
>The Jedi don't have a system to find force sensitives from half-way across the galaxy.
To be fair they actually do. They have that holocron from TCW.
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>>89815558
>The Jedi don't have a system to find force sensitives from half-way across the galaxy.

If I'm not mistaken, they do. They can sense it through deep meditation. It's how they were able to track down Cad Bane when he abducted Force sensitive kids for Sidious.

But otherwise, yeah. It's typically because someone called them in.

>Talzin would have called the Jedi to Dathomir to get Maul, and give away their existence

The Jedi, and the rest of the galaxy, are long already aware of the existence of the Nightsisters.
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>>89816689
That holocron was a database of them, not a detector. The kids there had already been visited by the Jedi.
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>>89814112

Conscription is way cheaper and more plentiful when you have several thousand worlds under your thumb.
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>>89813610
>>89813688
Im going to have a fucking anyuerism
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>>89814112
Clones were designed to fight wars, not what is effectively galactic guard duty
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>>89814112
Rapid aging and genetic degeneration. Probably not very cost effective either.
The Empire is effectively the majority, so there's no shortage of recruits.
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This isn't a rhetorical question. What is going on in PT hater's minds?

In the last thread a guy said that it was bad that the Midichlorian test was Lucas "telling and not showing" Anakin's power.
I replied with the fact that he was ignoring the entire podrace segment of the movie which was entirely "showing".
He said that since the test scene was first and that the podrace was had no heroic moments for Anakin and that he bumbled through it that it didn't count/his point stood.
I replied that he didn't bumble through it and that the scene where he flies up into the air to overtake Sebulba for first place is about as awesome a display of skill/power as you could ever need. (I didn't even bother to mention the other scenes like Anakin whipping through the rock formations or him fixing his ship on the fly).

The guy didn't reply to that post- and my question, my years old question, is what exactly the hell is wrong with people who deny the movie's events and try to change them to fit a narrative?
WHY WHY WHY
How did they get this insane?
How do you get to the point of straight up creating fiction to spew vitrol over a film?
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>>89816581
>I doubt anyone does.
I wouldn't take those odds m8. The NJO was very popular in some circles.
Filoni even had sketches that could have brought them into TCW.
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>>89814818
Jailbait Ahsoka is the hottest
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>>89815373
If I applied for this, I would only be kicked out when I inevitably have to point out that I know more about how the Force works than the teacher does.
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>>89817210
>In the last thread a guy said that it was bad that the Midichlorian test was Lucas "telling and not showing" Anakin's power.
Don't. That guy was just shitposting.
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there is something not right with her eyes. other than that i could see this working i suppose
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>>89817329

Yeah. Don't take the bait.
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Would you rather see a movie about Jango pre-prequels or Boba between RotS and ANH?
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>>89817530
Boba, but only because Tem is too old to play a younger version of the same character.
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>>89817446
Something apparently went wrong when they tried shooping her eye color
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>>89817530
Definitely the latter.

Then again, I'd kill for a bounty hunter movie. Even if it turns out to be just a Star Wars version of 'Where Eagles Dare'
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>>89817530
A Jango Pre-Prequels movie. I'm more interested in that timeframe than ROTS-ANH.
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Anyone playing galaxy of heroes?

Nihilus soon lads.
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>>89817530
I still want a movie with Machete as grizzled old man Boba.
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>>89817530
I'd rather see a more interesting character have a movie.
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Low-ish budget Jar Jar Binks movie played straight (Jar Jar still a goof, but no 4th wall or 'in' jokes about him) when?
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>>89817530

Pre-prequels Jango. Obviously it'd have to be animated because Temuera's too old to play Jango in front of a camera.

Would preferably like it to heavily feature Cad Bane and Hondo.

Boba's not worth having a story devoted to.
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>>89818068
>Temuera's too old to play Jango in front of a camera.
CG can de-age people now. Lucasfilm wouldn't be against it since they went as far as heavily de-aging Carrie and bringing back Cushing. Plus since it's Disney, SW can borrow what they used in Ant-man and Civil War.
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>>89817576
Gonna agree with this. I'd much prefer a Jango movie but that would be too hard to do now without outright recasting.
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>>89818173
It's doable, but probably expensive for a main character with significant screentime. The other option would be to just have him masked for like 90% of the movie so that you only have a handful of scenes where you need to give Tem a digital makeover.
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>>89818068
I want to know how Jango got the armour, like did he kill a mandalorian or did he used to hang out with one who gave him the armour on his death
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Did the mouse kill fisher for (You)'s?
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>>89817530
a Jango movie would bomb harder than Han Solo

the normies want Boba
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>>89818523
and reynolds too to make it extra tragic
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>>89818306
>did he kill a mandalorian
I don't think so. No one can kill a mandalorian.
>I wish that were so.
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>>89818641
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the japs are just fucking weird
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>>89818739

Like you wouldn't buy cool SW tableware. Nigga please.
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>http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/764811/Star-Wars-8-news-Skywalker-Hayden-Christensen-Force-ghost-Anakin-The-Last-Jedi-Kylo-Ren
Prequel haters BTFO
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>>89818739
>Implying you wouldn't
No anon, it is you who is weird
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>>89818785
>clickbait that treats speculation as fact
Don't toy with my heart like that Anon
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>>89818989
It's weird that Iger's statement that the movies being about the Skywalker family is not only being seen as news, but as fuel for theories. It's like if he said "this is the next chapter in a series about spaceships" and people went "HOLY SHIT MOLDY CROW CONFIRMED"
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>>89818785
Eh

I liked the prequels, but Hayden was probably my least favorite part of them. I guess it's alright though. It would be cool to see Luke interact with force ghost Anakin.
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>>89819114
Even weirder that people forget there's already three members of the Skywalker family in play.
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could aphra be reys mother
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Has Rebels gotten any better?
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>>89817210
>How did they get this insane?
>How do you get to the point of straight up creating fiction to spew vitrol over a film?

When the consensus is that something is shit people are allowed to make up any reason, regardless of validity. It's basically mob rule.
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>>89819500
Probably not
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>>89819751
No, it remains gay baby shit for gay babies. If you are not a gay baby, I'm afraid I will have to ask you to leave.
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>>89817210
>show not tell
I'm so tired of this fucking argument when the OT did it just as much as the PT
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>>89819751

Kallus hasn't been caught and executed yet, so no.
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I'd love to see Hayden come back. No one guessed Ewan recorded two lines of dialogue for TFA so maybe there's hope.
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Has it been confirmed that Ventress is really dead? Wasn't she buried in some water of life or something?
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>>89816412
If you can't tell immediately just by watching the scenes where they are mentioned, this explanation will probably be lost on you.

It's shitty to tell instead of show why Anakin is special when three movies are spent on Anakin and how special he is.

>b-but muh podrace proves that wrong!

"No!"

Again we are only told that humans can't normally do the pod race. We don't see normal humans getting fucked up in the pod race. We don't see Anakin doing anything Jedi or Sith-like to overcome the difficulty of the pod race. We're just told that his numbers make him Yoda-tier without any showing to prove it.

Consider the "over 9000" moment in Dragon Ball. What makes that impressive isn't that his numbers are high - in fact, Nappa believes it to be a trick. But then Goku goes and PROVES it. He manhandles Nappa without a real struggle, SHOWING his power to be the real deal. Anakin doesn't do anything like that in the pod race. We're only told that him doing the pod race is impressive. It's not like Luke making the Death Star shot without the targeting computer.

It's also thematically incoherent. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." Even if midichlorians are only indicators of the force and not the force themselves, shackling the force to "crude matter" completely betrays what Yoda said in Empire. Instead of a mystical force that flows through either

Anyone who likes midichlorians as a concept probably saw The Phantom Menace as a child and thinks Darth Maul is a legitimately good villain.
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>>89820630
just remove the midi-chlorians, and just show them doing something badass, then have them say "the force is strong within this one" after they have shown being really strong
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>>89820630
>doesn't think maul is a good villain
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>>89820401
She's dead.
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>>89820726
this

>>89820630
Maul is exactly what he needs to be. Palps is the brains.
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>>89820726
going by the movies alone, he was cool for his impressive saber performance, but otherwise is simply a silent, hit people until they are, dead kind of person without real depth

even before vader was given more depth, he was able to show his power to his subordinates, and being the only person in the room to not to overestimate their toys
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>>89820810
>without real depth
Palps is the brain of TPM, villain wise.
Maul is perfect the way he is.

commit suicide
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>>89820726
Maul is only a good villain outside of TPM.
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>>89820849
If maul was meant to be a simple but powerful brute, I would have at least wanted more of him showing it off, beyond a single setpiece lightsaber duel
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why is she so perfect?
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>>89820810
>TPM - basically the Devil, haunts the protags and slays based liam neeson
>TCW - the Devil given backstory and depth, Paradise Lost
>Rebels - the Devil's downfall at the hands of good (upcoming)
watch the franchise you claim to be a fan of instead of parroting RLM
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>>89820909
>beyond a single setpiece lightsaber duel
You got one teaser duel+tracking, and and a (pardon the word choice) epic final duel.

Also him pacing and striking the lasergate like a caged animal, contrasting with Qui-Gon's meditation is the epitome of "show don't tell" goodness.

Suicide, get on it drone.
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>>89818785
>Liking the Prequels.
You're either an idiot, or 12.
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>>89821019
*an
*an epic
my bad the parenthesis threw me off
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>>89821036
The oppression of RLM will never return.
You have lost.
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>>89814741
Live-action and animated versions of the same character having completely different facial structures isn't new to Star Wars.
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>>89821071
>anyone who dislikes the prequels like RLM
wew lad
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>>89821141
Why yes, that is a true statement.
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>>89820630
>We don't see normal humans getting fucked up in the pod race.
Because, like they said, humans can't podrace normally.

>We don't see Anakin doing anything Jedi or Sith-like to overcome the difficulty of the pod race. We're just told that his numbers make him Yoda-tier without any showing to prove it.
Well, I'd call a 9 year old kid being able to successfully build and pilot a very complex vehicle to be pretty good.

In any case, Midi-chlorians are not power levels, they are an indicator of potential. Anakin's midichlorian count indicated that he had more potential than Yoda, which was surprising.

>Anakin doesn't do anything like that in the pod race.

He successfully piloted a super fast vehicle(that he built himself from salvaged parts) at only 9 years old. And managed to land it even after Sebulba ran him onto a ramp.

>shackling the force to "crude matter" completely betrays what Yoda said in Empire.
It does not, and it's not even shackling The Force to anything really, the Force is in everything.

Here's the full quote from Yoda:

"For my ally is the Force. And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere! Yes, even between the land and the ship."

The Force is in EVERYTHING.

> and thinks Darth Maul is a legitimately good villain.
Explain how he's not a good villain.
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>>89820921

Unethical waifu is best waifu. Also dat ass.
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What potential live-action movie could an adult Ahsoka even appear in?
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>>89821071
>Truth is oppression.
Go back to school, twerp.
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>>89821036
>the kids who saw the prequels in theaters are at the oldest in their mid or early twenties
Grandpa, please. Twilight is upon you.
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>>89821305
Age brings wisdom. Also, it's fascinating about the overlap between stupid college kids, and Bernie Sanders supporters. It's only fitting that the constantly "offended" like those shitfest movies.
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>>89820630
How would you justify showing a person get wrecked in a podrace when it is accepted as fact that only aliens can do it? Is some retard supposed to steal a podracer and crash it in a building? Is Anakin supposed to watch holovids of a documentary or the space equivalent of those black and white 1910s car races?
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>>89821385
None of what you said relates to Star Wars.

Please try again.
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>>89821278
Fulcrum missions
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>>89821192
>Because, like they said, humans can't podrace normally.

Like we're TOLD and not SHOWN, you mean?

>Well, I'd call a 9 year old kid being able to successfully build and pilot a very complex vehicle to be pretty good.

I wouldn't. It doesn't seem mystical or magical.

>He successfully piloted a super fast vehicle(that he built himself from salvaged parts) at only 9 years old. And managed to land it even after Sebulba ran him onto a ramp.

Kids can be good at things, that doesn't make them fucking supernatural. Anakin landing doesn't seem like a function of the force, it's just him being good, unlike Luke shooting accurately without the targeting computer.

>It does not, and it's not even shackling The Force to anything really, the Force is in everything.

But especially the midichlorians, which can be moved to create life.

>Explain how he's not a good villain.
'No motivation, no personality, no character arc, nothing but flips and spins.
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>>89821438
>How would you justify showing a person get wrecked in a podrace when it is accepted as fact that only aliens can do it?

Maybe, I dunno, change the story so that clunky exposition isn't the only way crucial elements of the story are delivered?
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>>89821533
What, that braindead retards who smoke pot like the Prequels? Everything relates to the shit-taste of Prequel-lovers: age demographics, liking brainless and soulless "action" that overly fast-paced and boring as shit, emotionless and wooden performances, shitty writing and directing, overuse of shitty CGI for no reason other than George being lazy as shit, and so on.

Only brainless 20 year olds would like that drivel. Oh, and I watched the Force Awakens again, and it was BETTER than your shitty Prequels. Only a little bit, but the acting wasn't hideously wooden, nor the dialogue overly slogging. The action also wasn't disgustingly over-the-top, overly choreographed faggot-dancing.
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all posts below this line are being baited
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>>89821999
Really?
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>>89821818
> No motivation, no personality, no character arc, nothing but flips and spins.

I hope you're just talking about TPM and not the entire character that is Maul.

In that case, you're missing his entire purpose in the Phantom Menace. He's not meant to be a human character with motivations or personality, he's simply a harbinger, a messenger, a concept.

Similar to a horror movie villain, who has no motivations or personality or character, but they are a threat regardless.

And so he plays the part of 'bad guy' quite well.

Also how the fuck do you have a villain character arc in a single movie.
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>>89822112
>h-he's bad on purpose!
Face it, he's a flat non-character that is more a demo for fight choreography than a character in a story and his fight with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon sucks.
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>>89821893
I get why you're doing this but you really need to work on your technique it's sloppy as hell.
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>Dat bob cut on Pryce

I have literally zero interest in star wars but I am pleased I found this thread
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>>89822162
If you are using such a high bar, sure. But then out of curiosity I ask you who is a villain who is actually 'good' with those sort of standards.

Remember, this is only evaluating them in a single movie.
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>>89822471
Look man, a character doesn't necessarily need an arc in one movie, but if he's got fucking NOTHING else going for him, that's a bad sign. It's like making food that doesn't have sugar, fat, or protein. At some point you're going to have to put some kind of macromolecule in there or else you're not eating real food.
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>>89822112
>In that case, you're missing his entire purpose in the Phantom Menace. He's not meant to be a human character with motivations or personality, he's simply a harbinger, a messenger, a concept.
That's called "shitty writing". Darth Vader was technically a "harbinger", too, but he actually did things. Showing how fucking ruthless he was, and having dialog with others helped define his character. Darth Maul just appears, does a faggy pole dance, and gets cut in half with no characterization or motives.

>Similar to a horror movie villain, who has no motivations or personality or character, but they are a threat regardless.
This isn't a horror movie, though, it's a character-driven space opera.

>Also how the fuck do you have a villain character arc in a single movie.
Tarkin.
Vader.
Palpatine (in the original trilogy)
Krennic...
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>>89821818
>Like we're TOLD and not SHOWN, you mean?
Did you miss the entirety of the podrace where Anakin is literally the only human pilot?

>I wouldn't. It doesn't seem mystical or magical.
How is it not? You're telling me that it's normal for a 9 year old child to be able to build and have the reflexes and knowledge to pilot a vehicle that goes over 700 kph(434 mph)?

>Kids can be good at things, that doesn't make them fucking supernatural. Anakin landing doesn't seem like a function of the force, it's just him being good, unlike Luke shooting accurately without the targeting computer.

Name one 9 year old kid IRL that can drive a racecar at high speeds. I'll wait.

>But especially the midichlorians, which can be moved to create life.
The midichlorians are essential to life, so it makes sense that they can be manipulated to create more life. The Force is not "especially" more in them. The Force does use them to communicate its will.

>'No motivation

"At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge."

>no personality, no character arc

Those are not requirements to be good villains. Maul is a slasher-type villain in TPM. He's not meant to have much of a personality, and not all villains need arcs. Tarkin didn't have one in ANH.
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>>89817530
But we already had that Jango bounty hunter game. I know it's not canon anymore, but still.

Those shadow monkey guys near the end creeped me out.
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>>89822701
He killed a main character in the movie. That's something.

Also you didn't really answer my question. Who is a positive example who meets your standards in a single movie installment? I think you'd find them all lacking to the same degree as Darth Maul.
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>>89822957
Not really
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>>89822844
>Did you miss the entirety of the podrace where Anakin is literally the only human pilot?

He's the only human pilot because we're TOLD other humans can't do it.

>How is it not? You're telling me that it's normal for a 9 year old child to be able to build and have the reflexes and knowledge to pilot a vehicle that goes over 700 kph(434 mph)?

It's not normal for a young adult to have a walking carpet for a best friend but this is fucking star wars.

>Name one 9 year old kid IRL that can drive a racecar at high speeds. I'll wait.

>IRL

This is FUCKING STAR WARS.

>The midichlorians are essential to life, so it makes sense that they can be manipulated to create more life. The Force is not "especially" more in them. The Force does use them to communicate its will.
This is the problem, yes.

>"At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge."

Jesus is this a real defense of Darth Maul's character?

>Those are not requirements to be good villains. Maul is a slasher-type villain in TPM. He's not meant to have much of a personality, and not all villains need arcs. Tarkin didn't have one in ANH.

Tarkin was imposing and cold, he was calculating and efficient. He has a billion times more character than Darth Maul, whose only purposes is to recreate Cirque Du Soleil with a glowstick.
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>>89822957
>He killed a main character in the movie. That's something.
A main character who is also not really much of a character. Qui-Gon sucks as a character.

>Who is a positive example who meets your standards in a single movie installment?
Loki. He has a personality, backstory, motivation, and character arc all in one installment.
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>people are actively taking /tv/ bait
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Do glasses exist in Star Wars? Or...SPACE GLASSES or anything?
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>>89822987
>He's the only human pilot because we're TOLD other humans can't do it.

Yes, and then we're shown that the other pilots are all aliens.

>It's not normal for a young adult to have a walking carpet for a best friend but this is fucking star wars.
So? That's irrelevant to this discussion.

>This is FUCKING STAR WARS.

So? You were the one that brought up that kids can be good at things and that driving a high-speed race car supposedly isn't supernatural. So show me an example where a 9 year old kid IRL was able to pilot a race car.

>This is the problem, yes.

There's no problem there.

>Jesus is this a real defense of Darth Maul's character?

Are you claiming that that statement isn't clearly a motivation? Go on, I wanna see how you attempt to twist this

>Tarkin was imposing and cold, he was calculating and efficient.

You lack reading comprehension m8. I said Tarkin had no character arc. Just like Maul didn't.

Like I said, personality and character arcs are not essential, and personality especially isn't to what is supposed to be a slasher villain.

>He has a billion times more character than Darth Maul,

Not my point.

> whose only purposes is to recreate Cirque Du Soleil with a glowstick.

meme
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>>89823152
>Yes, and then we're shown that the other pilots are all aliens.

But we're never shown that humans can't do it, only told.

>So? That's irrelevant to this discussion.

No it isn't.

>So? You were the one that brought up that kids can be good at things and that driving a high-speed race car supposedly isn't supernatural. So show me an example where a 9 year old kid IRL was able to pilot a race car.

>IRL
THIS IS FUCKING STAR WARS.

>There's no problem there.

There is. Shackling the force to crude matter is a shit idea.

>Are you claiming that that statement isn't clearly a motivation? Go on, I wanna see how you attempt to twist this

Why does he want revenge? Why does he want to reveal himself? Go on then, defend that.

>You lack reading comprehension m8. I said Tarkin had no character arc. Just like Maul didn't.

I have already addressed that a character arc, while not always essential, is important if there is literally nothing else to the character.

>Not my point.

Yes it fucking is; you're defending Darth Maul's complete lack of character.

>meme

Truth, you prequelbabby.
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>>89823022
Pretty sure its 2 people trolling with each other. No one is this retarded to take this level of bait. it's amateur.

If you're going to start a prequel vs ot fight, you have to make it look legitimate. calling people who like the prequels babies is low tier. Starting a genuine discussion then executing your plan is far superior.
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>>89823253
>But we're never shown that humans can't do it, only told.

We're shown by the very fact that there are no other human pilots.

>No it isn't.
It is.

>THIS IS FUCKING STAR WARS.
Again, so? You're the one that brought up that it is normal, provide evidence.

>There is. Shackling the force to crude matter is a shit idea.
There is no shackling.

>Why does he want revenge? Why does he want to reveal himself?

Because the Sith are the ancient foes of the Jedi, as revealed in the movie.

>I have already addressed that a character arc, while not always essential, is important if there is literally nothing else to the character.
It's not important.

>Yes it fucking is; you're defending Darth Maul's complete lack of character.

Nope.

>Truth, you prequelbabby.

Last reply you're getting from me. And too bad, we were having such a fun discussion. It's a shame that you revealed yourself to be nothing more than a shitposter.
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>>89822795
Good response, but doesn't really hold up. On the case of Maul, he actually did take out Qui-Gon.

In the case of Vader, he had an entire Empire at his disposal to amplify his presence as 'harbinger', as well give him an excuse to talk. In a sense, Vader was helped along in his villain role - he had stormtroopers streaming out around him in his introduction... You can't really blame Maul for not having a Death Star or an Empire can you?

Also, in Vol 4, Vader just appeared to be some zealot like Maul, no motivations.

Remember, we're talking about character arcs in a single movie:

Tarkin was just an triggerhappy officer in Volume 4 who fucked over the Death Star. In Episode 4 he serves the epitome of the Empire's hubris. That's it. I see no character arc.

Palpatine in each of the movies is either politician, temptress, or evil mastermind: It's only when you tie them all together does he actually have an arc. But we're working on the pretense that we can only operate on one movie like Maul did (until Episode 8 amIrightguysh4h4h4h4). Same goes for Vader. Great arcs that span over the course of the canon.

Which leads us to Krennic. Probably the best example, but only because it's a novel one. Krennic isn't obvious, he's subtle - and he's a desperate villain, a bit crazed too. Rogue One did a great job and he's the best villain in this context.
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>>89823021
While Loki passes your test, he exists in a completely different genre - superhero genre. It's very good at comparing heroes and villains or just introspection - but you shouldn't expect that sort of focus in a science-fiction story as Star Wars to begin with... and we really shouldn't judge the worth of the two because that's just preference.
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>>89822985
>>89823021
Also in the context of "Qui-Gon sucks", it doesn't really matter. The Tarkin + Death Star blew up Alderaan. We didn't give two shits about the people there, but the precedent was enough to make it important.

It's something.
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Legends > Disney

Only normies and redditors will disagree
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>>89823672
>Commander made T2Bs canon
>tfw when T3Bs, T4Bs and TX-130 tanks will be canon again soon
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>>89823672
>they caught on to my bait and stopped giving me (you)s, let me try different bait
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>>89823672
>Patricians enjoy both

Legends was already finished anon. Let it go. It was good but couldn't have gone forever.
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>>89823412
>You can't really blame Maul for not having a Death Star or an Empire can you?
Actions and interactions with other characters are what define a character. Even if Vader didn't have those things, he would still be Vader, so long as he has those same character traits. Maul had none, and was a shitty flat character with no story or motivation, and thus no sense of personhood.

>Also, in Vol 4, Vader just appeared to be some zealot like Maul, no motivations.
Fucking wrong. Vader actually interacted with Tarkin numerous times, with Obi-wan (of whom the audience cared about unlike Qui-gon), with Leia, and so on. Maul had no real interactions, only one line of pointless dialogue that made no sense, and a flashy gay pole dance. That's it.

>Tarkin was just an triggerhappy officer in Volume 4 who fucked over the Death Star.
Which is a character trait. Pride and being a ruthless asshole, and his motivation was to enforce the Empire's brutal Fascist dictatorship. Far more characterization than Maul got.

>Palpatine in each of the movies is either politician, temptress, or evil mastermind: It's only when you tie them all together does he actually have an arc.
We still got character tics and motivation from him in Episode 6, the first movie we truly "met" the Emperor in.

>Which leads us to Krennic.
And he showed plenty of emotion, such as hatred for Tarkin stealing "his" weapon, him acting like a whiny asshole to Vader because of said co-worker, and him being a vicious deadpan snarking sociopath. He was, in my opinion, the only really likable character in that movie.
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Who would win, a standard TIE or a Vulture droid?
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>>89823810

Have a you for Abella Danger ass
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S T R E A M N O W

Come join us for some Sith Lord of the Rangz III: Revenge of the Kangz!
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>>89823900
whoever gets the first shot
neither of them are very well shielded, and both look designed for speed rather than toughness

TIE has a pilot and thus has maybe a better chance of winning, but vultures appear in greater numbers than even TIEs
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>best TIE wing configuration
>It's a drone

Fucking why
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>>89824011
looks like a squared off interceptor
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>>89824011
>>best TIE wing configuration
wat
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>>89824011

No. Clawcraft or a TIE Interceptor with its wings bent out instead of in.
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>>89823094
I guess Maz Kanata had some goggles? Do thet count?
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>>89823094
Prescription glasses? I don't think so. But there's plenty of examples of goggles.
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>>89823094

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Glasses

>>89823900

TIE Fighter. I think Vultures have blaster cannons so their punch is less than a TIE, plus they supposedly stupid... so a TIE Pilot may know how to one up them on a pass.
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>>89813575
But... It was shit
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>>89820630
>retards are actually arguing with this pasta
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>>89817210
>What is going on in PT hater's minds?
There are a few fun scenes but overall they don't entertain me. Simple as that.
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>>89823810
Penis
Penis hold on
Penis wait
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>>89825267
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>>89824211
this
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>>89823022
>tfw /tv/ bait actually generates discussion and the thread is not just about waifus and husbandos
thanks,/tv/
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>>89814113
>TPM: Obi-Wan is killed by Maul instead and Qui-Gon falls to the Dark Side

Qui-Gon really isn't the type to fall. He felt like he'd learned of himself in the Living Force well enough to know the discipline necessary to prevent oneself from succumbing. If anything, the TPM Infinities would have Obi-Wan die against Maul and Qui-Gon go on to teach Anakin.
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>>89826074
The excuse people use is that Dooku thinks Qui-Gon would have helped him. It's debatable whether or not Qui-Gon would have left the Jedi and the Republic if he knew the Sith were in control, but that's still very different from falling to the dark side or even joining the Sith (which is probably what Dooku would have wanted). Dooku might be wrong about what Qui-Gon would choose, and either way, it's possible his "Qui-Gon would've helped me, you should too!" story was just a ploy to get Obi-Wan to side with him.

It wouldn't even be the first time within the movie that someone used that trick- Sheev tricks Jar Jar into proposing emergency powers by making him think that's what Padme would have done if she were there.
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>>89815966
It'd fall apart when Qui-Gon discovers Dooku to be Sith.
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>>89818739
Yes, because as well all know nothing like that exists in the West.
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>>89826225
>"Qui-Gon would've helped me, you should too!" story was just a ploy to get Obi-Wan to side with him.
That's kind of how I saw it. I think he's right that Qui-Gon wouldn't be at all okay with the Sith controlling the senate, but he's clearly trying to appeal to Obi-Wan by using their shared connection to Qui-Gon.
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>>89820630
>It's also thematically incoherent. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." Even if midichlorians are only indicators of the force and not the force themselves, shackling the force to "crude matter" completely betrays what Yoda said in Empire. Instead of a mystical force that flows through either

>Taking figurative language literally

All Yoda was saying was for Luke to stop looking at things for what he already knows them to be. He follows with "you must unlearn what you have learned" for that very reason. Philosophical and spiritual education are rooted in figurative language. Midichlorians are not thematically incoherent, you just don't know how to comprehend interpretations of mind over matter.

I can't believe the entire first and second generations of Star Wars fans completely missed the point of the Force.
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>>89820630
There's what, 40 years between TPM mentioning Midis and Yoda telling that to Luke? How do you know that Yoda didn't change his opinion in regards to the force between that time, during his exile after his Order was killed right under his nose?
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>>89813502
they really should have taken a note from actual uniforms and placed those insignias up higher so tits don't get in the way.
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>>89826774
The Imperial service is rife with systemic sexism.
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>>89826516
People take a lot of stuff about the Force very literally despite evidence to the contrary. Like "size matters not" doesn't literally mean you can move anything of any size, Yoda was trying to get Luke to not worry about the size of the X-Wing since his doubt and fixation on the task being seemingly impossible were getting in the way. That's why the scene ends with "I don't believe it/That is why you fail."

Increasingly I see people taking Vader's "power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force" to be evidence that Force-users can gain planet-destroying superpowers and completely miss the point of the scene foreshadowing the ending of the movie.
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>>89823868
After sucking out my left testicle here's my response.

You can't interact with Tatooine's sand. The premise of TPM and ANH is completely different. As a result the characters and how they act are completely different. You can say that Maul is a shitty villain but I'd say it's because you don't like the premise.

Imagine Darth Vader in TPM - you can't because he's 8 years old and he hates sand anyways. It's contradictory to his character, even. So maybe step back from bashing Maul and just realize that the premise doesn't suit what you expect from a good/evil conflict.

Obi-Wan is the only defining interaction Vader had with Obi-Wan, and it wasn't even clearly explained or understood in the confines of Volume 4. Tarkin and Leia are natural when you are "2nd in command" of the Empire. It's not anything to do with his character but his scene.

>Tarkin
Summed up as an arrogant goose-stepper. You can infer a bunch of things from his pride and over-confidence, but you can do the same for Maul. They really aren't that different except Tarkin had some lines.

>Palpy
I mean c'mon man you're really stretching shit when you think "I want the rebels crushed k?" gives much characterization or motivation. He just was evil.

>Krennic
I ain't arguing dis. Krennic is da bess villain if you only gave the baddies one movie to prove themselves. Maybe boohoo Annie in ROTS, but nah...
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>>89827712
>Ahsoka never got to make passionate love to the country bumpkin that was lusting after her.

Sad!
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>>89827915
>responding to bait hours after the baiter left
What is wrong with you
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>>89826589
He references the crude matter/luminous beings thing in TCW during the funeral for Barriss's victims. Within that context, he basically describes our bodies as temporary vessels that we leave behind when we become one with the Force.

So what he says in ESB isn't really incompatible with the idea of midichlorians.
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>>89827991
Where to begin anon.
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Star Wars Musical when?
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>>89815118
You friend have excellent taste in Togruta females.
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http://variety.com/2017/film/news/star-wars-thandie-newton-han-solo-pic-1201983121/
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>>89829420

Neat.
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>>89829420
I'm predicting a bunch of "SHE'S GONNA BE HAN'S BLACK WIFE" from people who don't know Sana's name (nor that she isn't actually his wife) and don't realize Thandie Newton is old enough to be be Ehrenreich's mother.
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>>89825369
But if you enjoy the OT that makes no sense at all.
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>>89829420
>>89829521
Thandie Newton is Snoke
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>>89814873
Nah, she needs to be Indian.
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>>89814358
No. SS a cute.
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Alright you star/fags/ it's time to spin to win
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtYydupSH8
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>>89830115
Who keeps giving SS normal human skin?
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Using the Millennium Falcon name formula (unit of time/type of bird) name a starship.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:en:Time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_common_name
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>>89830216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
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>>89830402

The GMT Goldfinch.
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>>89830402
The Half-Time Gnatcatcher.
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>>89830402
The Hourly Shag
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>>89830402
the Olympiad Owl
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>>89830566
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>>89830566
We have a winner
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>>89830566
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>>89830402
The Menstrual Pheasant.
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>>89830402
The Around the Clock Booby
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>>89830566
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>>89830402
Yesterdays Dodo
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>>89812877
she's got a shit haircut and an ugly nose
but them titties are ridiculous
why are titty monsters in such short supply outside the comics and aayla secura?
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>>89830892

We must make our own SW tiddy monsters then.
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>>89831137
>SS will never be a delicious tiddy monster
>will instead be a flatfu forever

feelsdbadman.jpg
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>>89830797
I don't know why, but I like this one.
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>>89826074
>Qui Gon falls to the Dark Side
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>>89812877
Ugly twat
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>>89831875
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do you think ahsoka squirts
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let's say i was trying to squeeze the thrawn trilogy and aftermath/bloodline into the same continuity
what order would those fit in the same timeline?
and how hard does one retcon the other?
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>>89832314
yes.
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>>89832335
>>89832314
ok fine
if i felt like marathoning both, what order should i read them?
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>Ridley said it was obvious who Rey's PARENTS as in PLURAL were by watching the movie
>Also said she Han's kid

So this has to be her mom, right? She's the right age range for it.
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>>89832378
Aftermath, Thrawn, Bloodline

Not sure why you lump Aftermath and Bloodline together, they take place almost 3 decades apart
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>>89832385
>Also said she's NOT Han's kid

Getting a pic fucked my post up
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>>89832385
And her father is Snoke, which he will reveal after cutting off her hand
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>>89832405
Apparently she's confirmed a Skywalker by those that just saw the first screenings.
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>>89821036
No one said anything about liking the prequels, you illiterate fuck.
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>>89821071
It was the hate of the prequels that created the RLM stuff, anon.
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>>89832411
You mean by Bob Iger, who never said anything about Rey being a Skywalker and just said that the movie is about the story of the Skywalker family... which confirms absolutely nothing since we've always known that the saga is about the Skywalkers and even if Rey isn't revealed to be one, you still have Luke, Leia and Kylo.
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>>89832411
You're telling me people have not only seen The Last Jedi, but already leaked spoilers, in February?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous.
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>>89832493
RLM helped skyrocket the unabashed and unjustified hate for years though.

They amplified misconceptions and unwarranted anger stronger than it ever was, and only in these past few years has the general community begun to realize how full of shit RLM and the Lucas/Prequel hate was.

TFA, in a way, actually helped, by drastically lowering the bar of expectations, and making the original concepts of the Prequels more appreciated.
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>>89832386
thought i'd try marathoning all the material that takes place between VI and VII
i just didn't know when each takes place since i'm new to the EU

those google docs in the OP are pretty helpful with their chronological orders
but since there's not an ABY year next to each one, i can't immediately see how they'd fit
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>>89832515
Yeah, people heard this shit >>89832514 and immediately started warping it into REY CONFIRMED AS A SKYWALKER and that anon fell for it

So somehow "Bob Iger has seen an early cut of the movie and says it's about Skywalkers" mutated into "PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IT AND ARE LEAKING SPOILERS"
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>Kylo took upon Snoke's apprenticeship under Order or guidance from Luke. He explained the difficulties and complexities with the dark side, and perhaps even grew too far and too infactuated with it and sometimes forgets his true motive (to long-con and murder Snoke). He knowingly murdered his father (and Han knew this had to happen for Snoke to accept Kylo as an apprentice, hence why he thanked Han when he killed him). Han knew it was what had to be done, to a degree.
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>>89832515
>I'm sorry, that's ridiculous.
Why?

It's a first cut without post stuff.

Also official.
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>>89832572
Kylo Ren is just Snape?
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>>89832493
Not really, most of the hate generated from RLM, actually.
The whole "the prequels only used CGI and no practical effects" meme started because of them.
Almost every prequel hater I've met always brought up "Bu-but go watch RLM's video as it will explain everything!" when they got proven wrong or when they said they didn't want to go explain why (in other words, they're just using another's opinion).
You'll be surprised by how many people that take their word as law.
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>>89832569
The thing is, it's been called the Skywalker Saga since literally 2014, because they wanted to explicitly differentiate the movies from the upcoming Anthology movies.

It's possible that Rey is blood related to the Skywalkers, or it's possible that the Skywalker connection is simply referring to Kylo, who is already a descendant of Anakin, and thus making the "Skywalker Saga" still stand true without any speculatory bullshit about Rey needed. Also speculated Kylo will come to the light, making him the protagonist, and Rey the villain, but that still isn't necesarry.
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>>89832615
>Not really, most of the hate generated from RLM, actually.
Stopped reading there

Kid...are you serious? People were going nuts for fucking years about it long before RLM...you're a joke, get out.

>Trying to talk about shit you didn't live through

Seriously, go.
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>>89832608
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>>89832537
A lot of the prequel hate in recent years is also clearly inspired by them. There's a whole generation of prequel haters who clearly weren't there when they happened but still like to pretend they were. Most of the people who grew up with the OT and were disappointed by the prequels have moved on- a lot of what you see now are younger people just parroting old arguments without even really understanding what they're arguing, and often trying way too hard to seem like they're genuine oldfags.
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>>89832615
>most of the hate generated from RLM
lol what, you can't be serious
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>>89832624
>The thing is, it's been called the Skywalker Saga since literally 2014
But Lucas always said the movies were about the Skywalker family, so that's nothing new. Point is, Iger calling it the story of the Skywalkers isn't proof that Rey is one.
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>>89832615
>Not really, most of the hate generated from RLM, actually.
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>>89832633
Not him, but you basically ignored all his perfectly valid points to say "i-i'm older than you".

Prequel hate didn't start with RLM, but it is delusion to think they didn't heavily influence and inflate it with their ill informed videos.

And this is coming from someone who "lived through it". Prequel hate did amplify with the popularity of RLM's videos. For a few years on Youtube, you couldn't click on a Star Wars video without snide jabs at the prequels from the narrator, something that is finally starting to simmer out and die down, with more pro-prequel sentiments emerging in the wake of Disney.
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>>89832648
>calling it the story of the Skywalkers isn't proof that Rey is one
How could you possibly think she's not a Skywalker? Are you really clinging to the stupidity of the Kenobi theory?
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>>89832633
I worded it wrong. I'm talking about the fanbase today, especially all the new "fans" that popped up after TFA.
The people who hated the prequels before RLM were no where near as vocal about it as they are now.
But by all means, go defend those manchildren all you want.
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>>89832668
>Not him, but you basically ignored all his perfectly valid points
Stopped reading there.

I lived through people talking shit about it long before that video, anon. It was massively hated. You realize it started in fucking 99, right?
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>>89832681
>Stopped rea
Stopped reading there.

No point wasting our time discussing this if you're going to ignore everybodies points on the basis of "i was there".
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>>89832671
No, I'm saying that Iger's words aren't proof of anything. She may or may not be a Skywalker, but this isn't proof one way or another, or even a real hint since he's just describing something we already knew.
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>>89832675
>RLM were no where near as vocal about it as they are now
Nope, it's been the same. 100% the same

The only difference is that we have little idiots that grew up on eps 1-3 and being little idiots that they are they don't know anything about fiction, taste or stories in general because all they really know is eps 1-3 so they think they're amazing.
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>>89832681
>It was massively hated.
You mean the OTfags?
Where's Pablo when you need him.
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>>89832695
Hidden, didn't read.

>>89832698
Which makes people think they're more vocal about it, they're just matching the retards being vocal about how great eps 1-3 are.
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>>89832681
>S
Stopped reading here.
Did you just learn that phrase? It's pretty cool, ya grandpa?
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>>89832615
>Not really, most of the hate generated from RLM, actually.
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>>89832698
Do you somehow think people who like the prequels have never seen the OT?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Fuck off back to /tv/ already, shitposter
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>PT retards at it again

Seriously, LEAVE and go consume copious amounts of fiction. You'll see how amazing OT is and how shitty the PT is once you develop taste.
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>>89832725
Not him but you are really stupid if you can't understand that post.
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>>89832698
>Nope, it's been the same. 100% the same
You're a fucking idiot. I bet you thought YouTube was just the same today as in 99.
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>>89832736
He said prequel hate has been exactly the same for the past 18 years, and then spent the second half of the post shitting on anybody who liked the prequels. What is there to not understand?
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>>89832742
He's right, people hated PT. Only kids really loved it, you were probably a stupid kid that didn't know any better that talked to nothing but other stupid kids that didn't know together in person and online.

You weren't coming into contact with people that knew better nearly as much.
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>>89832731
>>>/tv/
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>>89832615
>Bu-but go watch RLM's video as it will explain everything!

I had a conversation on reddit with a guy whose every argument looked like this:
If you watch this RLM video [link] at 11:38 they say...
Mr Plinkett in his review of RotS [link] at 13:37 says that...
In RLM's opinion [something something], just watch the video [link]

How do you even argue with shit like this. I'm not talking to fucking Plinkett, I'm talking to you ffs.
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>>89832749
A retarded kid isn't necessarily going to see the difference between the PT and the OT.

If you're implying OT and PT are the same in quality then you are just oblivious. PT didn't meet the standards to enter in the national film registry. People that understand film immensely more than you and have seen far, far more. OT did.
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Stop replying to the bait

Literally every post is "only dumb kids liked the PT, you're a dumb kid", and that isn't going to change.

Stop replying, hide and ignore.
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>>89832755
>projecting this hard
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>>89832731
nice strawman, noone is arguing that the OT is worse than the PT you analphabet
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>People think the PT is as good as the OT

I find them unwatchable and I even tried watching edits and recuts. They just aren't very good. They have good special effects and that's about it. Even the acting is all over the place in terms of quality.
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quit arguing about dumb shit you faggots
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>>89832769
I've seen the exact same conversation in every comment section on every star wars related video that has been posted here. That's why I brought it up.
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>>89832296
>>do you think Ahsoka squirts

oh she did
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>>89832615
>Not really, most of the hate generated from RLM, actually.
You are 100% wrong.
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>>89832615
Everything RLM said was said by people online years before RLM appeared. Critical analysis of films existed long before them, before they were even born in fact.
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>>89832554
>>89832386
ah crap i forgot about lost stars
is that any good?
most of the complaints i hear about it is about a homosexual couple or something
does the story important at all or interesting in some way?
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>>89832874
I don't remember people always using the "ring" theory in arguments back then before the episode 2 and 3 came out.
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>>89832615
>when they got proven wrong or when they said they didn't want to go explain why (in other words, they're just using another's opinion).
>You'll be surprised by how many people that take their word as law.
People DO NOT need to articulate why they didn't enjoy eps 1-3 to justify anything. It's the same as eating a meal, you don't need to articulate the sheer fact it doesn't taste as good as something else to someone.

The fact someone CAN go on to articulate and tear holes into it are a testament to just how poor it is though.
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>>89832931
If you're going to bash someone for having an opinion then at least have some points to back up your point. Don't just ignore everything they say and go "Go watch this video of this guy giving his thoughts instead because I'm sick of explaining it again". Don't go hating a bunch of fims just because a bad youtube reviewer said so.
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>>89832881
Lost Stars is one of the best books in Canon, and there is no gay couple so I dont know where that complaint is coming from
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>>89832931
>We don't need to justify why we dont like it
>But you are unjustified for liking it
k den
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>>89832977
Lol...nobody hates the PT because of RLM, people hated it since 99.
>>89832999
That isn't what the post said, retard.
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>>89833007
>>89833007
>people hated it since 99.
I recall hearing right after it came out that it was heartless, soulless, CGI driven and poorly written.

That's...literally what everyone says about the PT to this day still.
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>>89833020
THAT PERSON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PT HATE

IT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE THEM, IT'S THERE FAULT

SEE YOU'RE ALL BRAINWASHED INTO HATING PT BECAUSE OF THAT GUY
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>>89833007
>Lol...
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>>89833020
>it was heartless, soulless, CGI driven and poorly written.
RLM was a specific answer to this actually, since the idiot masses still had people going HURR BUT WHY EXPLAIN so RLM explained.
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Post your homemade waifus
http://www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/scifi-warrior.php
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>>89833034
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>>89833054
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>>89829420

what kind of Star Wars alien would the superior robot hooker be?
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>rogue one had shitty location tags (in fucking english) over the screen for every planet
>didn't do it for mustafar because "we didn't to spoil the reveal of vader"
fuck you, pablo

1) the trailer already showed vader because no one wanted a spinoff movie until they heard there was vader
2) why the fuck would anyone instantly assume vader would be on mustafar just because that's where he became a cyborg?

on top of everything else, it didn't even look like mustafar
it was obviously sullust until they suddenly decided "we need the prequel audience"
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>>89833384
You're fucking deluded my man

>1) the trailer already showed vader because no one wanted a spinoff movie until they heard there was vader
The trailer showed Vader with it edited to look like he was on a Star Destroyer, or the Death Star. They still wanted Vader's first appearance in the movie to be a surprise.

>2) why the fuck would anyone instantly assume vader would be on mustafar just because that's where he became a cyborg?
I did. As soon as I saw the Planet, I thought "If this is Mustafar, we're about to see Vader", and it happened.

>on top of everything else, it didn't even look like mustafar
Looked exactly like Mustafar

>it was obviously sullust until they suddenly decided "we need the prequel audience"
Because Vader having a castle on Sullust totally makes sense.

Also, just to put the nail in this coffin, it was decided literally half a decade ago that Vader's castle would be on Mustafar, and they teased it back in season 1 of Rebels. Your conspiracy theory about this being an attempt to get the "prequel audience" is pure delusion, and cooked up just to post some shitty ill-informed bait. You should feel embarrassed.
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>>89832385
Talk about a wasted character. She should have kicked Finn's ass instead of TR-8R.
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>>89820092
soon
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>>89833384
>it was obviously sullust until they suddenly decided "we need the prequel audience"

It could be argued this is just another lava planet looking just at the exteriror, but there was a close up to an interior detail that was very obviously inspired by what we saw on Mustafar in RotS.
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>>89817210

>What is going on in PT hater's minds?

They watched and like the OT and made up their own headcanon for the rest.

When the prequels arrived it destroyed most of their headcanon which made them mad.

One of the main reasons why Reddit Letter Media shit on the prequels is because they are unhappy with Yoda being a Jedi Master with council past instead of being a random forest troll who has always been a forest troll.
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So, what are the odds of Kylo staying a villain and actually becoming as threatening as grandpappy Vader now that Fischer has passed on? In-universe it means that Han died trying to get through to him, and Leia is going to die with her last desperate wish for his salvation and return to the light.

...they are going to redeem him, aren't they? I just can't see them going with something as dark as what we would end up with otherwise, especially if it is potentially the 'last' trilogy. (For around 6 years, because Disney doesn't hate money, and Saga films carry the franchise.)

I was really hoping for an antagonist that isn't Palpatine that would last more than a couple of films.
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>>89833555
>these digits
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>>89832993
my bad
different book
but where in the timeline does it take place?
and where should i put it in my marathon of the following:
aftermath trilogy
thrawn trilogy
bloodline
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>>89833644
Lost Stars takes place across a few decades, from shortly before ANH, to right alongside the Aftermath Trilogy. Based on what we know about Empire's End, it seems that the Aftermath Trilogy will end a little bit after where Lost Stars does.

Chronologically, it would be;

>Lost Stars
>Aftermath
>Bloodlines.

Thrawn Trilogy isn't canon, so it isn't going to fit with the timeline at all. You'll see that the characters from the OT are living completely different lives, and the fate of the Galaxy is very different.

But if you absolutely want to read those books, then I would save them for last. Chronologically, they would probably take place before Bloodlines, but again, the Galaxy and characters are in a completely different place, so it's not as easy as slotting the books together in the timeline, the Thrawn trilogy just isnt going to fit, and would be better read completely separately. That's just my suggestion of course.
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>>89833685
The Thrawn trilogy is pretty good anyway, but it's fanfiction at this point

Reads like fanfiction too, but it's really good.
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Found a great teacher for Ezra after Kanan kicks the bucket.
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>>89833693
star wars itself is just fanfiction
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>>89833698
Only if she uses that whip on him.
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why don’t the empire of let aliens into the stormtrooper army?

human are what 40% of the galaxies? and aliens would support empire look at Thrawn.
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>>89833708
You're fanfiction Anon. I made you up.
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>>89833740
"the empire is a white supremacist organization"
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>>89833740
>seperatists fuck the republic up
>most seperatist worlds are alien
>republic army hates aliens now
>Sheev takes over
>lets the officers keep their hate
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>>89833740
>>89833817
>>89833827

The Empire makes humanoid uniforms, and if you dont fit into them, tough. The main exception is Inquisitors, which get custom made uniforms because they're special cases. So humanoids can, and have, joined the Empire, with Thrawn being the most notable example.

Problem is, Human-supremacists do exist in the Empire, even if the higher ranking officers don't care. The canon books have expressed this is not an official and unanimous belief, with many Imperials looking down on racists as not what the Empire is truly about. After all, a Stormtrooper is a Stormtrooper, regardless of the skin beneath it.

Many alien worlds were enslaved too, because they were Seperatist worlds, or because they had resources the Empire wanted, so there's an anti-Empire mentality for non-humans, despite the Empire not actually restricting all (humanoid) aliens from joining if they really wanted.

Similar explanations for the Rebellion too, lets not forget they are mostly human. The Mon Calamari are the only huge notable alien faction in the Rebellion, with the majority of the ground forces being humans still. It's entirely possible that aliens look at the humans and their wars and want no part of it. Hell, there's even a TCW episode with the Lemur people that says as much. The Galaxy was in turmoil from a war that was exclusively humans vs droids, for 3 years, and the GCW was caused by the aftermath of that war.

So yeah, the main reason there aren't many aliens in the Empire, and the Rebellion to a slightly lesser extent, is that they simply don't want to fight and die for the humans, as well as not feeling welcomed by either faction, or not believing in either cause.

When the aliens DO play a major role in the war, it's usually to protect their own homeworlds. Cham Syndulla and the Twileks, or the Umbarans, for example. The humans are the only species widespread enough across the Galaxy to be the main driving force for galactic war.
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>>89833817
fucking Chris Weitz

>>89833827
>Sheev takes over
>lets the officers keep their hate
ok that make sense
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>>89833384
To be fair, that's what he THOUGHT was the reason to why they did that. He said it himself that he didn't actually know why they did it.
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>>89833641
Snoke will last for the three movies I guess.

Also the reason people want Kylo to turn good is because it's literally the only interesting thing they can do with his character.

He either becomes Vader 2.0 like he wants, or he fails and comes back to the light (ironically still being Vader 2.0 this way). Or third option, he remains a failure of a villain for the entire trilogy.

After Kylo failed to truly seem villainous in TFA, and lost his lightsaber fight to Rey diminishing his threat, nobody actually want to see him pushed as a proper villain now.

Oh wait, unless him killing Han was supposed to be his "he really is a bad guy" moment, in which case welp, he'll be shit forever
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>>89812485
Fix The Force Awakens mega link in the pastebin it still doesn't work pls
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>>89833050
rate
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>>89834094
nice
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>>89833817
Why does everyone forget that he almost immediately deleted that tweet and apologized for it being incorrect?
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>>89834222
Because people like that deserve to be ridiculed for the rest of their life.
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>>89834222
Or Disney made him do it because it fired up right before RO premiered.
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>>89812877
Is that a Grand Moff rank plaque? I thought she was subordinate to Tarkin.
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>>89834252
General Eisenhower was subordinate to FDR but that didn't stop him from being Supreme Commander of the Allies and responsible for the prosecution of the war
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>tfw the SS action figure can't actually stand on her own and needs blu-tac or something

and I have no idea how they got her to hold the lightsaber without breaking her thumb off, or have the little probe droid perch on her shoulder that nicely.
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Aphra is cute. CUTE!
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>>89834382

also why do action figures always have to come with spring-loaded missile launchers? (SS comes in a 2-pack with Maul. also the Vader/Ahsoka 2-pack has these goofy little discs of Force energy or something - Ahsoka's lightsabers can be stuck in hers to make a really bad spinning double-bladed lightsaber effect, and Vader just has some red disc that launches from some plastic gun he can't even hold)
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>>89834016
>nobody actually want to see him pushed as a proper villain now.

It's not about what you want
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>>89834429
Sadly, is just cheap interactable accessories to appeal to kids and "justify" the price despite the lack of articulation in modern figures

>dat Maul tho
>"WHO HAS THE HIGH GROUND NOW KENOBI?"
>Jetpacks into the sky, inevitably crashing because Maul can never have a happy moment in his life
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>>89834521

and he's got a sleeveless Sith Hoodie. very /fa/.
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>>89834252
no, Tarkin has four code cylinders
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what do guys think about the music in SWR
i think Kiner just keeps outdoing himself

https://youtu.be/uu4Ic5c1hMo
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>>89834382
HOT GLUE
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>>89834382
Anon, if you're buying figures, you should probably have some stands for them in the first place. Most female action figures will never be able to stand on their own because of how much thinner they tend to be, and usually without any kind of bulk or armor.

The lightsaber should also clip fine into her hand.

As for her robot, they likely used glue or just balanced very carefully to take the pictures
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>>89834707

how did you know what was on my clipboard
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>>89834789
What the fuck is that figure? Is that new? 3.75''?
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>>89834810

released in September, 3.75", has mastered the art of ziplining. lower legs look bulky enough that she probably has holes in the bottom of her feet for a stand, unlike SS.
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>>89815373
but anon kreia was right
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>>89829420
I heard someone suggest she could be Aurra Sing and I really like that.
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>>89835116
Imagine the outcry about whitewashing even though Aurra is an alien
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>>89835328
Nobody gives a shit about racism against white people though

Oh wait, you're saying the white face is still racist against blacks. Ok then
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>>89834252
According to Pablo there is no Grand Moff insignia. The insignia he wears means priority sector high commander
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>>89834252
Both are Governors though, it's just that tarkin also holds the title of Grand Moff. He also has four code cylinders to Pryce's two.
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>>89830566
Oh, behave!
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New Rebels in one week

I hope Sabine doesn't become Mandalore. I'd feel better about her being a leader if the Mandalorians fracture hard between House Viszla/Clan Wren, the Imperial Loyalists, and assorted dudes who want no part in either side and just want to be Mando warriors again
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>>89833698
>>89833734
>saberwhip
eve dumber than helicopter sabers
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>>89835630
>I'd feel better about her being a leader if the Mandalorians fracture hard between House Viszla/Clan Wren
As far as we know, House Vizsla practically doesn't exist anymore. TCW didn't show or mention that Pre had any other living kin. His house/bloodline may have technically died when Darth Maul beheaded him.

>I hope Sabine doesn't become Mandalore.
I do. Though obviously it can't happen within the span of the show. She's obviously going to have to leave Phoenix Squadron/the Ghost crew to unite the Mandalorian Houses and clans off screen.

>and assorted dudes who want no part in either side and just want to be Mando warriors again
It's these kinds of dudes who would be the most likely to join Sabine though. She wants a free Mandalore. That practically implies that they go back to their old warrior roots.
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>>89830402
>The All Night Blue Tit
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>>89836026
THICCCC
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>>89833007
>Lol...nobody hates the PT because of RLM, people hated it since 99.
I remember somewhat enjoying the action, but that was when I was a stupid 10 year old. There was always something severely missing from the Prequels. They looked overly clean, Jar Jar was fucking annoying, and it never emotionally engaged me, outside of Qui-gon dying, but even that felt hollow and soulless.
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>>89823021
Yes Loki does have that. But the Loki equivalent in The Phantom Menace is Sidious. Darth Maul is the Destroyer Armour.
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>>89830402
Dark ages Emu
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>>89818296
just like CGI tarkin!
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Jedi holocaust never happened
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>>89837538
the bridger holocaust did though
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>>89837538
/spacepol/ at it again.
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artistically done
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>>89836026
I just think having a Mandalore that all Mandalorians bow down to downplays the fractious nature of the Mandos. Now if the Mandalore was just first among equals there could still be dissident clans who won't obey every command of the Mandalore. Naturally they clans and houses would all work together to fight the Empire, but once it's gone they'd go back to fighting each other as Mandos naturally do
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>>89833817
rogue one kinda implies that though. they diversified the rebel side but the imperials were 100% white dudes. that's not a coincidence, disney chose to make the empire racists and sexists.
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>>89838217
>I just think having a Mandalore that all Mandalorians bow down to downplays the fractious nature of the Mandos.

But that's what the position is though. The Warchief, the lord of all Houses, he(she) who is strongest of all. It's not all going to happen at once. She'll have to earn the position. Though charisma, maybe some political maneuvering, and of course killing imperials and other Mandalorians who refuse her rule. She probably won't win the position until well after the series has ended.

>Now if the Mandalore was just first among equals there could still be dissident clans who won't obey every command of the Mandalore.
By equals, you mean competitors for the title?

>Naturally they clans and houses would all work together to fight the Empire, but once it's gone they'd go back to fighting each other as Mandos naturally do

That may not happen with an acting leader. Warring Houses was probably a thing with them when there wasn't an acting singular leader.
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>>89834222
Because he was accidentally being honest, and Liberals don't like it when the truth slips out.
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>>89838355
racist, maybe, but not sexist, you see a lot of imperial women in various canon media
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>>89834222
what's that drama about, I missed it
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>>89838355
>and sexists.

Where did you get that from?
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>>89812877

Waifus always die, though.
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>>89838730
>>89838833
I was referring just to what we've seen in the movies. I thought that they would've added women and non-whites among the imperials in RO since they did that with the good guys and it seems closer to canon.
But they didn't, so I assume that's meant to show that at least for the most part, the Empire doesn't employ a lot of females or non-whites. And FO had a very diverse (except for aliens) crew, so they must have different politics about who they hire. It makes sense that they would've had to be less picky about recruiting.

This is all just my speculation of course.
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New episode fucking when?
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>>89839140
Next week I think
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>>89839152
Oh for fucks sake
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>>89839001

>I thought that they would've added women and non-whites among the imperials in RO

I didn't see the movie enough time to notice every single background Imperial but I thought there were some non-whites there. Plus, you could argue you have no idea who the masked storm- and deathtroopers are.

It's not like we see that many named Imperials in RO anyway - Krennic and Tarkin, mostly. I wouldn't draw the conclusion from that the Empire only wants to hire white males.

It's easier to show diversity among the Rebels because you spend more time with them in many different locations, and you have that Rebel Alliance meeting.
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>>89838355
>the imperials were 100% white dudes
The pilot who defected was Indian, wasn't he?
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>>89839338
He wasn't shown being an Imperial in action, only a defector. His defecting made the Empire a very small percent whiter.
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>>89839392

That's a lame excuse.
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>>89838355
You are completely fucking wrong. We've seen countless non-white, non-male, and occasionally non-human Imperials.

There's a plethora in the tv shows, books and comics, but even in the new movies the Empire is diverse.

As another anon mentioned, Bohdi is not white, and TFA even focused in on a black female First Order officer during the Hosnian Prime scene.

Sheev's right hand man was Mas Amedda, an alien, and Sly Moore, a woman.

I'm sick of this meme about the Empire being some kind of oppressive patriarchy. It's not true now, and never has been. The Empire does not match up with your 2017 Political beliefs. It's ridiculous to think it would. Closest IRL comparison is the factions of WW2, and even then it's blurred in the fiction of the writers and creators.
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>>89833050
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>>89833050
Here's a few I made a while back, they're all of the same waifu
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>>89839566
Very nice
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>>89839511
>TFA even focused in on a black female First Order officer during the Hosnian Prime scene
That was Leia's personal assistant dating back to her time in the NR Senate. She wasn't First Order in any way.

>Sly Moore
Have we even seen her after the Empire was formed in a position of power within the Empire?

>non-human
The only two Imperials we know of within the Empire that aren't pure human are Amedda and Thrawn. That's just two out of the millions that fill the Imperial ranks.
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>>89836026
>>89838700

I dunno, having Sabine become the Mand'alor fragments the show a bit too much. There is a really delicate balance between the Rebellion and Ezra's growth as a Jedi, taking away another member of the rebellion just puts the burden on Hera, Rex, Zeb and Chopper to keep the 'rebellion' plot-line moving.

You think that's alright but you can only go through so many team-combinations. Rex teaming up with Chopper doesn't seem to flow well or make much sense, and Zeb/Ezra already have had plenty of interactions with Chopper.

I feel like Sabine adds quite a bit to the Rebels plot by giving variance to the dialogue. Removing her would make the squadron loose that sort of "growing rebellion" vibe.

I mean, we've gotten AP 5 and Fenn Rau, you would expect more characters to join the team now. Having a group just suddenly leave would create a really awkward void.
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>>89839621
>The only two Imperials we know of within the Empire that aren't pure human are Amedda and Thrawn
And all of the Inquisitors we've seen so far.
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>>89839660
True, however, all of them that we've seen are dead and we don't know how many more there are, or if they are even non-human. Amedda is still kicking in Aftermath and Thrawn's fate is unknown currently.
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>>89839621
>That was Leia's personal assistant dating back to her time in the NR Senate. She wasn't First Order in any way.
No, before you even see Hosnian, on Starkiller, they focus in on a black female Imperial.

>Have we even seen her after the Empire was formed in a position of power within the Empire?
She hasn't been mentioned much

>The only two Imperials we know of within the Empire that aren't pure human are Amedda and Thrawn.
And the Imperials, and Ultimate Star Wars says humanoids can be Stormtroopers, and Thrawn is of course an example of a non-human officer.

Also, give >>89833857 a read.

Fact is, aliens don't have a large representation in the Empire, nor do they have a big representation in the Rebellion, and this is simply because that's how ANH is, and everything built from that. Coming up with allegations that the entire organization is racist is just false and headcanon.
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>>89833857
>It's entirely possible that aliens look at the humans and their wars and want no part of it. Hell, there's even a TCW episode with the Lemur people that says as much. The Galaxy was in turmoil from a war that was exclusively humans vs droids, for 3 years, and the GCW was caused by the aftermath of that war.

This is a very good point actually. If you're an alien species on some backwater planet, why would you ever want to get involved with either the Empire or the Rebels?
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>>89839823
That's the impression I got from the OT. Specifically ANH where they show you all these aliens in Mos Eisley and then both the Empire and the Rebels are full human.
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>>89839641
>Having a group just suddenly leave would create a really awkward void.
And you don't see that as a potentially interesting story development? This could be their opportunity to do the kind of thing they didn't get the chance to do with Ahsoka and Anakin after she left the Order.

>taking away another member of the rebellion just puts the burden on Hera, Rex, Zeb and Chopper to keep the 'rebellion' plot-line moving.
>You think that's alright but you can only go through so many team-combinations. Rex teaming up with Chopper doesn't seem to flow well or make much sense, and Zeb/Ezra already have had plenty of interactions with Chopper.
They can always use new characters. Or even take characters that had a very minor appearance in the movies and make them a starring character in Sabine's place. Eh? How about that? Nien Nunb as Specter 7?

>I mean, we've gotten AP 5 and Fenn Rau,

>Fenn Rau
I think he'll be leaving with Sabine as another way to strengthen her claim to being the singular ruler of Mandalore. Having the Darksaber and the leader of The Protectors (the bodyguards to the ruler of Mandalore) with her are two cultural symbols other Mandos won't take lightly.
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>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HmWDdmTAE8

>Finn hears the screams of the Hosnian system before they're all destroyed

Force Sensitive indeed. Note how none of Maz's castle patrons are clamoring.
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>>89839993
>Nien Nunb as Specter 7?
New canon is already sucking his dick too much. He who was just a random guy in the Rebellion now took part in the Battle of Sullust in Twilight Company, helped Leia save the Alderaanians off-planet when it exploded (to make a New Alderaan colony), helped Leia steal the shuttle used in ROTJ, and now he is still alive and in the Resistance in TFA. He doesn't need more bullshit added on, besides what's inevitable during the time between ROTJ and TFA.
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>>89840050
No that's just how JJ does things. They can see and hear the things that happen on the other end of the galaxy for dramatic effect.
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>>89840050
Didn't Pablo say in the last few weeks that it was just cantina patrons?
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>>89840121
Speaking of Pablo, do you think he has to take everything he confirms/denies on Twitter to the LSG to catalogue as canon, to make it more official?
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>>89839740
>No, before you even see Hosnian, on Starkiller, they focus in on a black female Imperial.
yep, pic related
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>>89840140
I think that stuff is likely already established by the LSG
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>>89840056
Nien is Iconicâ„¢!

>>89840140
No. While it is absolutely true that Pablo supplies canon and factual information there, this is stuff that is already known as canon to the rest of the LSG, he is just making info and trivia public to those who ask, provided there are no spoilers.

He also used to tell people not to cite his tweets because obviously stuff that hasn't yet made it onto a canon in-universe media is subject to change, like the few errors in USW, but he gave up because lets face it, people are gonna cite it anyways, and stuff he says isn't really going to change, unless it's something out of his power like what JJ did to TFA's opening crawl.
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>>89840140
>>89840169
Yeah, he can't just make up canon on the spot on his own. A lot of the time he'll say something hasn't been decided or give some other answer about how it may be looked into in the future.
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>>89833050
Classic Pulp
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>>89840272
>like what JJ did to TFA's opening crawl.
Whats this?
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>>89840595
Probably means referring to Luke as the last Jedi, leaving no real wiggle room if they wanted to decide that there are still other Jedi somewhere.
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>>89839993
It could be an interesting story development, of course, but it's not so much of a development as a real change in narrative. Does Sabine just vanish from discussions? Is she brought up every episode? Sabine's been a main character since the start and it's much different making her some reference or recurring character like Sato. I won't deny it is fresh and new but it's also very untested territory - you don't often see a main character downgraded to some secondary or tertiary or just vanish for the rest of the story.

(And there's also canon to consider - Sabine is likely referenced as the Rebel's propaganda artist - and her tag is the inspiration for the Rebel symbol.)

Also I'm sorry but are we really going to have a Nien Nunb introduction arc? I mean we just learned Sabine's motivations for rebellion and her past - how do we get around introducing Nien Nunb and going about his relations with the team? Wouldn't he be better suited to interact with Lando and form a relation with him?

For example, we don't see Zeb and Rau interact, or Hera and AP 5. There's still a lot of headway and a lot of empty space to fill in, and to just switch gears and add a new character makes it harder to really connect with the cast.

Imagine Zeb leaving - something that was avoided through convenience but could have also given us Nien Nunb if it had happened. There is a reason they reasoned Zeb back into the Ghost team: He's crucial to the chemistry. I think they'll find some way to pull it with Sabine.

Fenn Rau leaving is exactly what I mean - this is supposed to be a growing rebellion - having Fenn Rau and Sabine just cut off and leave 2 empty seats isn't really consistent with the theme, and let's be honest these are just really big seats to fill and I don't see anyone doing it well.

Now they could leave for a episode or half a season, of course, but I'm expecting some use of the canon or maybe change of it to avoid Sabine completely abandoning her surrogate family.
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>>89840097
Probably not in this instance. The screams that Finn reacts to aren't local, they don't suddenly build within the foreground or background. They come in as more of an ethereal thing, out of an echo chamber
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>>89840595
JJ changed TFA's opening crawl mentioning that Leia had support from the New Republic, which we know of course is not exactly true. This was not told to the LSG, and Pablo said it wa a surprise to him when he saw it himself.

By this point, the LSG had already worked on stuff regarding the New Republic's lack of support to the Resistance, so they then had to work around what JJ had changed. This also affects Episode 8.

Thankfully, Pablo doesn't think it was that big of a deal, and Rian Johnson himself even came to help Claudia write Bloodlines (the book explaining the political situation of TFA) so that things would flow nicely into Episode 8.

So it worked out in the end, but it was an inconvenience caused by JJ taking shit into his own hands for no reason. This was partly due to JJ being allowed to bring in his own company (Bad Robot) to make TFA, rather than Lucasfilm themselves (who are doing all the other movies)

So yeah, we almost had the first major continuity problem, in the fucking opening crawl of the first new movie, because JJ changed things last minute.

(And the hilarious thing is, for what reason? Changing the crawl made no sense, JJ had already cut the political Hosnian Prime subplot from his movie.)
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>>89840537
>pulp
Good taste just not for spacesuits.
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>>89840662
>- Sabine is likely referenced as the Rebel's propaganda artist

There hasn't really been any confirmation of that. And before you say about the bit from Aftermath, that wasn't confirmed to be Sabine's work. Yeah, it certainly sounds like something she'd do. But they left it kind of ambiguous as they didn't reveal the name of the person who did it. Which may have been the LSG's call because how that now they're setting Sabine up go down the road to being the ruler of Mandalore.

>Fenn Rau leaving is exactly what I mean - this is supposed to be a growing rebellion - having Fenn Rau and Sabine just cut off and leave 2 empty seats isn't really consistent with the theme

Isn't it? You see it as cutting them out. And in a sense it is. But in the bigger picture it's more of a branching out. Sabine's going back to yes, start her way down the path of becoming Mandalore's ruler. But she's also recruiting for the rebellion's cause. Sabine and Rau are seemingly out to create their own cell in the Mandalore System.
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>>89841087
Pablo's propaganda book says straight up that it's Sabine
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/swco/, are you hyped for Kanye West in Star Wars?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/585379/kanye-west-star-wars-rap-king-big-screen-obi-wan-kenobi
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>>89841473

Unironically yes. Kanye is a fucking treasure, the crazy bastard.

Hell, make him an Imperial and just him to ad-lib whatever comes to mind. Comedy gold.
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>>89841571
Yeah, I think it could be pretty funny actually. If done right.
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>>89841087
While you aren't wrong, is there really a feasible way to show this in the canon and avoid the "cutting out" effect? How would the show really stress the fact that Sabine is making progress with her Mandalorian cell, or that she's still a character and not a plot point? It's like the Y-wing bombers recovered in the start of Vol. 3 - we have no real appreciation for whatever work they're doing, even though we know they're doing good work. One of those stolen Y-wings may be in the movies, even, but what does that mean to the show?

All things considered we should expect the Y-wings to show up in the Season finale sure but while the Y-wings were a plot object, Sabine is a main character. To have her go the same way of the bombers is kinda weird and a major hit to the show's rhythm, in my opinion. I don't see how it would help the show or the universe... It would just remove Sabine from sight and only show her when she's leading a Mandalorian army to bail out the cast for specific points in the canon, reducing her character to one of convenience, like a Hando.

It makes sense, sure, but it's not necessarily engaging or interesting storytelling.
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>>89841473
They already had Michael Jordan play Mace Windu so why not?
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>>89840056
They want to give solid representation to the original trilogy's only Mexican.
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>>89842152
>Ledsen, den sidan finns inte!
>Du kan söka på Twitter i nedanstående ruta eller återgå till startsidan.
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>>89842152
>yfw Jar Jar is the big death in Empire's End
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>>89842152

Don't get too excited. It's still Wendig.
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What is your favorite part of each Star Wars film?

>TPM
I unironically love the trade-blockade and the Neimoidians
>AOTC
Geonosis Arena
>ROTS
Opening sequence
>ANH
Han, Luke, Chewie and Obi-Wan sneaking about on the Death Star
>ESB
Luke's scenes on Dagobah
>ROTJ
The attack on Death Star 2
>TFA
Poe and Finn's escape
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>>89842410
>TPM
Duel of the Fates
>AOTC
Basically every Obi-Wan scene and the sound the seismic charges makes
>ROTS
Vader vs. Obi-Wan
>ANH
Death Star trench run
>ESB
Vader's big reveal, the Dagobah scenes
>ROTJ
Jabba intro, Vader vs. Luke
>TFA
Kylo vs. Rey
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What is the comfiest Star Wars movie?
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>>89842539
Comfiest is honestly ANH for sure
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>>89842539

This, ANH >>89842551 or ROTJ
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>>89842539

ANH, or maybe TPM.
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>>89812877
Needs a big hat.
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>TPM
Podrace
>AOTC
LAATs comming in to save the day, Obi's investigation
>ROTS
Space Battle, Sheev laughing like a madman while throwing those senate things
>ANH
Trench Run
>ESB
Airspeeder antics and Hoth in general
>ROTJ
That part where the fleet realizes the shield is still up and evades
>TFA
Poe's mobility and auto trigger hacks
>RO
Y-Wings and Hammerhead
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>>89842539
ROTJ
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>>89842705
>>RO
Darn
I can't believe I forgot Rogue One...
I think my favorite moment is when the Hammerhead rams too. Or Vader on Mustafar. Or just the Clone Turbo Tank in the beginning.
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>>89842410

>TPM
Duel of the Fates

>AotC
Battle of Geonosis

>RotS
hard to pick, but probably Order 66

>ANH
definitelly the Battle of Yavin. I have the audio of this battle (not soundtrack, whole audio) on my phone and I listen to it sometimes

>ESB
Battle of Hoth

>RotJ
Emperor's throne room

>TFA
the montage at the beginning with Rey scavengin stuff and Rey's theme in the background

You forgot Rogue One!

>R1
everything between "Sir, we're detecting a massive object emerging from hyperspace!" and "Hope."
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>>89842410
>TPM
The when they return to Naboo in the final act
>AOTC
The deleted scenes of Anakin and Padme
>ROTS
Opening
>ANH
Battle of Yavin
>ESB
Asteroid scenes
>ROTJ
The entire last act and rescue of Han
>TFA
Escaping Jakku
>RO
Whole thing was enjoyable but final battle. Loved the flashback scenes
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>>89825369
5 bucks says you don't like Star Trek Nemesis.
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>>89820907
He's shit outside of TPM though.

>chatterbox bloodhound
Absolutely buttfuckingly assbackwards pants-on-head retarded.
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>>89843014
>The deleted scenes of Anakin and Padme
Not sure if you're aware, but those are actually canon and present as of the Blu Ray release of the movies.
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>>89843063
They are? Including Anakin meeting Padme's family?
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>>89843063
>but those are actually canon and present as of the Blu Ray release of the movies.
They're not in the Blu Ray. They might still be canon though, but there's no version of the movie that has the Anakin/Padme deleted scenes back in the movie.
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>>89843060
Fuck off. I've seen you post this before.

God forbid Maul have an actual character. Maul has been great since his return in TCW. We see him actually utilize the teachings of the Sith he learned from his Master. In TPM, he was nothing more than an attack dog because he "died" before he could do anything more than try to kill a couple of Jedi.

Of course when he returns, and actually has reason to communicate with characters like his own brother, he'll have much more dialogue.
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>>89843063
>present as of the Blu Ray release of the movies
I have no idea where you heard this but it's not true.
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>>89841148
No, it says a description that could fit Sabine and people took it and ran with it.
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>>89843127
>>89843094
>>89843161
I feel like I am going crazy.. I distinctly remember the scene with Anakin at the family home looking at the holo portraits.

I even just looked it up, but the scenes aren't on the list of changes.

Perhaps I have remembered something wrong, maybe I watched the scene right after the movie, and it blurred together
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>>89843229
It was included in the bonus features on the original DVD release, that's probably where you saw it.
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>>89843131
>he was nothing more than an attack dog
Palp was the brain, he was the brawn.
Maul being a chatterbox is stupid and makes him much less intimidating.
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>>89841608
>While you aren't wrong, is there really a feasible way to show this in the canon and avoid the "cutting out" effect?

In Rebels, probably not. In canon? sure. What's being set up for her could easily be ground for her own story. The could totally give Sabine her own book detailing how she starts down and then attains rulership of Mandalore. Would even be a nice way to set up future involvement from the Mandalorians for the movies as I know I'm at least curious to find out what Mandalore is up to post RoTJ/Jakku.
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>>89843302
Oh hey Autistic Maul Hater, you forgot your usual image, let me post it for you
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>>89843238
>It was included in the bonus features on the original DVD release, that's probably where you saw it.

And also in the VHS release. Because my only copy of AoTC is on video and that's where I first saw it.
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>>89843335
>Oh hey Autistic Maul Hater,
?
There are two opinions at work here.
Why is the one you disagree with the autistic one?
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>>89843346
I completely forgot VHS releases were still fairly common in 2002.
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>>89843302
>Palp was the brain, he was the brawn.
You are literally objectively wrong. Maul was a fucking Sith lord. He wasn't just the brawn.

>Maul being a chatterbox is stupid and makes him much less intimidating.
Considering he gets more done and is more imposing in TCW than he ever was in TPM, I'd say you're wrong
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>>89843366
It's autistic because you come here like every two weeks going "wow does anyone else hate how they ruined Maul?" and each time hope that the people who laughed at you the last time aren't here anymore.
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>>89843381
>You are literally objectively wrong.
What?
Objectively?
What?

>Maul was a fucking Sith lord. He wasn't just the brawn.
These don't contradict each other.

>>89843415
>and each time hope that the people who laughed at you the last time aren't here anymore.
How did you get that impression?
And one of the more recent times I brought it up, I had some guy agreeing with me.
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>>89843415
Also, I didn't make this image
>>89843335
I just saved it because it's hilarious.
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>>89815929

>what was the point of the Yuuzhan Vong?

The Lucasfilm EU department felt they needed to take a radical departure in their post-RotJ stories, which had so far consisted of variations on "Imperial warlord crawls out of hiding, grabs superweapon, dies". While this wasn't a bad idea in principle, it happened to develop at the height of the whole late 90s-early 00s edgy period where shit was dark for the sake of being dark. After some jockeying between Dark Horse and Bantam/Del Ray over who would get the rights to this new storyline, the NJO books came out in all their glory, or lack thereof.

>and who like?

By this point, only contrarians or unironic edgelords.
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>>89843457
A Sith Lord is a Sith Lord because they have the collective teachings and training passed down from generations of Sith.

Maul can't be categorized as the "brawn". He has just as much brawn as Sheev does, as well as training in corruption, coercion, persuasion, and ability to use the Force.

You can't just say "Sheev was the brains, Maul was the Brawn", because Maul was being trained to be Sheev's successor, like all Sith are.

What you see in TCW is Maul using the trainings of the Sith to work alone from Sheev.

He was being portrayed as a proper Sith Lord, like Sheev, Vader, and Dooku before him.

Maul was never just some sidekick.
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>That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him

>Not even bothering to mention Anakin by name

Christ
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>>89843742
Luke is an integral part of this section of the story, Anakin isn't.
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>>89843783

Doesn't matter. Still Anakin's. If a lightsaber is identified by the one who wields it and not by the one who made it, then by TFA that Lightsaber rightfully belongs to Finn.
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>>89843898
He should've been Jedi-ing tbqh.
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>>89843742
I doubt there are even a handful of people left in the entire galaxy that would know who Anakin Skywalker was. The Empire would've actively tried to prevent people from learning that information.
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>>89844109
It's likely that he'll be able to feel and perhaps use the Force as the Trilogy continues. His role in TFA, and his actions therein are not simply a matter of his own skills or character - the Force is with him. Poe too, probably, if the current Yoda arc in the Star Wars mainline is anything to go by. Though whether they'll be Jedi is another thing, since this new era in canon seems to be placing greater emphasis on that studying all the aspects of the Great Mystery Palpatine talked about. We already knew of the Force with the Originals. The Prequels went over how one might fall to the Dark Side. Naturally, the Sequels and EU connected (loosely or directly) to them will focus largely on every other avenue of equal importance to the Force - seeing it for its basic nature and what it does for everyone else, a la Bendu, the Church of the Force, Guardians of the Whills and the various other organizations.

Much better strategy than Legends. As large as it was, it never had an overall focus and really added nothing to the overall saga and just replayed the Jedi vs the Sith over and over and over again.

Took me a while to realize this, but I'm pretty interested to see where things go now.
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>>89842410
>TPM
Podrace

>AOTC
Geonosian Arena/Battle of Geonosis

>ROTS
All of the battle scenes. Coruscant, Kashyyyk, Utapau, etc

>Rogue One
Battle of Scarif

>ANH
Battle of Yavin

>TESB
Dagobah scenes and Cloud City stuff

>ROTJ
Entire last act

>TFA
Battle of Takodana
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>>89843562
>Maul was never just some sidekick.
But he was though.
Sidious never planned for Maul to succeed him.
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>>89842410
>TPM
Mauls fight scene on Tatooine
>AOTC
Obi Wans investigation on Kamino
>ROTS
Sheev sheeving Anakin to the darkside
>ANH
Kenobi negotiating with Han. He's such a funny scumbag
>ESB
The entire battle of Hoth, especially the rebel troopers
>ROTJ
Dagobah scenes with Luke
>TFA
First scene with Poe
>R1
HAMMERHEAD
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>>89844405
So they want to fully establish what you can become or devote yourself to, if not the Jedi or Sith, yet you can still feel or use the Force. As opposed to all the "Grey" Jedi offshoots that came out of the Legends EU.
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>>89844493
Yes he did. Sheev even says as much that Maul was a true apprentice in a recent comic.

Dooku was the one that Sheev had never intended to surpass him.

It was only after Vader got rekt at Mustafar did he even decide that Anakin wouldn't replace him either.
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>>89844493
Sidious isn't any different from other Sith- he doesn't WANT to die and let the apprentice succeed him, but understands that it's his job to train an apprentice strong enough to carry on the Sith legacy, and if that apprentice can kill him it proves his own weakness.

The only way around that was to find the secret to immortality, but the fact that Sidious needs apprentices at all indicates that he's aware that there's a chance he may not find that secret and needs someone who can carry on the legacy if something happens to him.
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>>89844556
>Yes he did.
No?
Disney has nothing to do with Lucas's intentions.
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>>89844577
Except that was Lucas's intention. That's the entire point of having an apprentice.
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>>89844577
Lucas was the one who wanted Maul back you fucking nonce.

Filoni even said he and the team were initially trying to persuade him otherwise, but he was pretty adamant that he wanted Maul to return and to have his own story.

And Lucas also created the rule of two, he came up with the idea when writing TPM, he literally created Maul around this concept.

Lucas himself is the man who decided Maul wasn't supposed to be some attackdog/sidekick. It's just in TPM, he doesn't get to do much beyond being the first boss fight in Star Wars.
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>>89844577
But that's how Lucas himself described it. Sidious wanting Vader to surpass him and being disappointed that he's only a shell of what he could have been is something Lucas literally discussed in interviews around the time of ROTS.
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Are we forgetting that Maul was well spoken in TPM, and that he just didn't run his mouth all the time?

Both sides of this argument are exaggerating.

I personally like Maul in TPM more because of the "force of nature" feeling he gave off that wasn't as evident in TCW, but TCW fans seem to see that as a lack of character so YMMV.
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>>89843306
Fair enough, but when I mention canon I do include Star Wars Rebels. I'm not sure the writers would want to damage the Rebels story/show in exchange for another book or comic. I may be wrong, of course, but I feel Rebels is trying to be that main linking factor to the less dedicated fans over the details of the canon - Saw Gurrera, Mandalore, etc...
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>>89844647
>>89844660
Lucas has never said that Maul was Sheev's endgame at that point in time.
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>>89844689
You're right, I don't believe he ever outright said it, but given that Maul's TCW storyline relies on Sidious having trained Maul in manipulation and the basics of acquisition of power, and the storyline came directly from Lucas, the idea that Maul was just an attack dog as in the EU is already out the door even before we bring in what was said in a Disney-era comic.
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>>89842410

>TPM
Sheev's maneuvering in the Republic Senate and Qui-gon.
>AOTC
Obi-wan being a detective.
>ROTS
Sheev's keikaku dori.
>ANH
The scenes that were clearly derived from The Hidden Fortress.
>ESB
Vader, delving into the ways of the Force, the big asteroid field chase.
>ROTJ
Everything between Luke and Vader.
>TFA
Uhmm... Auralnauts?
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>>89844755
>Sidious having trained Maul in manipulation and the basics of acquisition of power

>attack dog

These don't contradict each other.
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>>89844689
Except he did.

The Rule of Two is built around the concept of the Master training the apprentice until the apprentice surpasses the Master.

In TPM, Sideous had Maul before he even knew about Anakin.

In TCW, Maul even mentions how he and Sideous had planned the Clone Wars, and laments how "... He started without me..."

Later in TCW, Sheev himself mentions the Rule of Two, and how important it is to the Sith, taunting Maul about how he is no longer the Apprentice.

In Revenge of the Sith, Sheev says to Yoda that Anakin will surpass the both of them.

This was all stuff Lucas himself dictated before he left the company.

It is only after Mustafar, does Sheev declare himself the endgame of the Sith. Before then, he was strictly following the plan and teachings of the Sith and the Rule of Two.
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Did Sheev kill Plagueis before he took on Maul as an apprentice?
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>>89844689
>>89844755
Really, the only thing that would have prevented Maul's rise was the appearance of Anakin. We have to assume that Sheev didn't know about Anakin until TPM, at which point he starts to take an interest in him and we know where that leads. But if he hadn't met Anakin and never knew about him, we have to assume that his current apprentice is meant to be there for the long haul, otherwise he wouldn't be his apprentice.

Anakin's existence is the reason this train of logic doesn't work with Dooku, since we saw that Sheev was eyeing Anakin before he had Dooku.
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>>89844755
>You're right
>>89844796
>Except he did.

Who do I believe?
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Empirefu and Inquisitor girlfriend... I mean bodyguard.
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>>89844821
Yes
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>>89844825
>we have to assume that his current apprentice is meant to be there for the long haul
No?
Palpatine wants to rule the galaxy.
He'd knock off any Sith who wanted to usurp him, as all Sith do.
He only kept Anakin around because he made Anakin buy into his father figure game.
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>>89844825
Sheev specifically says in the Vader comic that Maul was a legitimate apprentice until he was sliced on Naboo, and from that point on, he set his eyes on Anakin.

Based on everything we saw and heard in TCW with Maul, we have every reason to believe this is completely true, and what Lucas understood to be the truth.
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>>89844903
>we have every reason
But no proof, and as we all know, Lucas changed him mind a lot.
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>>89844878
>He'd knock off any Sith who wanted to usurp him, as all Sith do.
Unless that Sith is strong enough to do it. That's how the Sith work.
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>>89844878
>He'd knock off any Sith who wanted to usurp him, as all Sith do.
Until one is strong enough to surpass him, that's how the Rule of Sith works, and is encouraged by the Sith.

At some point, Sheev believes that only the Chosen One himself is strong enough to surpass him.

It's only after Anakin lost at Mustafar did Sheev begin to seriously believe that he would never be surpassed
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>>89844924
>Lucas changed him mind a lot.
No, that's a misconception.

And regarding this specific topic, the Rule of Two, and how Sheev follows it, has remained unchanged since Lucas came up with the idea 20 years ago.
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>>89844943
>that's how the Rule of Sith works, and is encouraged by the Sith.
But obviously not Palps, as he went through a few after using them as tools.
Why would he want to be killed while ruling the galaxy?

>>89844966
>No, that's a misconception.
No, it's not.
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>>89842410
>TPM
Maul's appearance on Naboo; Activating the Battle Droids

>AotC
Obi-Wan pursuing the Fetts

>RotS
Grievous's escape from Coruscant; "Unlimited Powah"

>ANH
TIE Attack

>ESB
EVERYTHING from the arrival on Bespin

>RotJ
Luke vs. Vader; the entire space front of the Battle of Endor.

>TFA
Poe and Finn escaping

>R1
The hallway.
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>>89844674
>Fair enough, but when I mention canon I do include Star Wars Rebels.

I know. I should've put it as 'the rest of canon'. A bad way for me to separate the rest of canon at large from Rebels on my part.

> but I feel Rebels is trying to be that main linking factor to the less dedicated fans over the details of the canon

Understandable. Though it's not entirely the case as we've had character that Rebels hasn't covered, like Sloane and Aphra. And obviously they can't cover anything post TESB.

> I'm not sure the writers would want to damage the Rebels story/show in exchange for another book or comic.

But they wouldn't be damaging it though. They'd be going off of what's already been established in rebels and what's been established by the rest of existing canon and whatever else we don't know that the LSG has decided. Any writer would just be filling in for what hasn't yet been decided and or would just be adding dramatic development.
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>>89844796
>In TCW, Maul even mentions how he and Sideous had planned the Clone Wars, and laments how "... He started without me..."

I liked it better when it was Sidious and Plagueis's idea

And once Sidious learned about Anakin and his potential he would have tossed Maul aside even if hadn't been sliced by Obi-Wan.
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>>89844878
>Palpatine wants to rule the galaxy.
>He'd knock off any Sith who wanted to usurp him, as all Sith do.
Except that's what all Sith want and do. The only way for them to ever prevent this is to always be stronger than the apprentice, which history shows us doesn't really work out for the master. The entire point of the Sith is for the apprentice to eventually surpass the master. It's the master's job to do everything in his power to prevent this, but it's an inevitability.

As someone else pointed out, even though Sheev is looking for eternal life and a way to rule forever, he's cognizant of the fact that this may not work out, and despite his self-serving ways he still has some sense of loyalty to the Sith rules, hence why he has an apprentice in place who can continue the line if he himself becomes too weak, or if he dies by some other method.
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>>89844796
>It is only after Mustafar, does Sheev declare himself the endgame of the Sith.

Is there something he mentions of this in like Tarkin or something? Cause' I'm still convinced that he intended to have a successor.
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>>89844837
cuties!
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>>89845004
>But obviously not Palps, as he went through a few after using them as tools.
Yes. Dooku was obviously being used as a tool, and he says as much himself.

Maul, who he had as an apprentice before he even discovered Anakin, was not just a tool.

And as for;
>obviously not Palps
>Why would he want to be killed while ruling the galaxy?
Palpatine literally says in Episode 3, that Vader would surpass him. He is a Sith, which means he follows the teachings of the Sith. That includes the Rule of Two.

Why would anybody want to be killed, ever? Of course he doesn't WANT to be killed, but if he can train a Sith strong enough to surpass him, then he will not exactly be able to STOP himself being murdered. But it will also make him a successful generation of sith, strengthening the lineage. That's how the Sith works. Not just Sheev, every Sith follows this.
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>>89845070
Yeah, the Tarkin novel describes him as actively looking for immortality, and even more than that. He basically isn't content with having wizard powers and basically wants god-like power.
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>>89845127
>Sheev wishes to become an all-powerful genie
>gets trapped in a lamp
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>>89844674
> I feel Rebels is trying to be that main linking factor to the less dedicated fans over the details of the canon
If you read any canon comic, or ESPECIALLY the books, you'll notice one surprising thing;

The main draw from the worldbuilding of Star Wars comes not from the movies, but TCW. Seriously, the amount of references and nods to TCW in the canon books is staggering. And why? Because it's a tv series.

TCW has enough running time to make up 20 movies worth of Star Wars.

Tv shows are ALWAYS going to be able to deliver more content, character development, and worldbuilding.

So if it feels like Rebels is the centerpoint of Canon right now, well it kinda is. It's where most Star Wars screentime is going too right now, despite the fact that we get annual movies now. It's where the LSG can implement and expand canon the most, as well as feed into the movies. Just look at the Scariff fleet with the Hammerheads and Ghost. Look how far back they were planning, and building it all in Rebels for that battle to culminate on the big screen.
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>>89845127

Well, I know he wanted to be all powerful. Hence the entire reason of the Clone War and the Empire being meat grinders for the Dark Side for him to gain more power from. But if he was set on immortality for only himself, why bother with an apprentice?
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>>89845004
>No, it's not.
Yes it is
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>>89845033
Check'd and kek'd
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>>89845242
Because the Sith line still needs to continue. Until he can actually achieve immortality, the Rule of Two needs to remain.

If he ever did become immortal and gain the god-like powers he wanted, he'd have no further need for the Rule of Two since the Sith would always live on through him. At that point he'd probably just drop the idea of apprentices altogether.
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>>89845070
In Tarkin, it's confirmed he was seeking immortality.

In Lords of the Sith, and the Vader comic, he confirms that he no longer believes Anakin will be able to overthrow him following his humiliating loss at Mustafar. He used to think so. He admits that Maul was a legitimate apprentice, but Dooku was nothing more than a political pawn while Sheev groomed Anakin. And he truly believed that as the Chosen One, Anakin would surpass him.

But once Anakin got rekt, Sheev figured he himself was the true endgame of the Sith, that he could rule the Galaxy forever. He kept Vader at his side, but almost like some kind of twisted Chosen One trophy, but semi-useless. He can't even teach Anakin how to do the zappy pointy fun time!
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>>89844405
>Naturally, the Sequels and EU connected (loosely or directly) to them will focus largely on every other avenue of equal importance to the Force - seeing it for its basic nature and what it does for everyone else, a la Bendu, the Church of the Force, Guardians of the Whills and the various other organizations.

How would you react if the Bendu showed up in the movies?
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>>89845014
Sloane and Aphra could appear in future seasons, and I personally think they will. Heck even Krennic or Scarif may cameo, though that's me being trigger happy.

But for Sabine and maybe Rau to just disappear and reappear as plot devices - and forcing their story into other canon mediums like books or graphic novels, it severely hampers their reach to watchers and fans of Rebels. It may bring some to these new mediums but for others I think will be confused and disheartened that a character seemed to disappear.
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>>89845242
Because until the end of Revenge of the Sith, he never actually believed he would be all-powerful forever. He believed, like the generations of Sith before him, he would be overtaken by his apprentice. Why would he be any different?

After Anakin gets rekt, thats when he figures he wont be able to be overthrown, and starts to seek out immortality, like his master before him had tried.
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>>89845397
Yeah, I think Filoni and crew will want to keep Sabine's story squarely on Rebels. That's not to say that she can't have something in a comic or novel but the most important story beats will be in the show. There's obviously a lot of cross-promotion happening but it seems like for the most part creators are being allowed to have a fair degree of control over the stories they're telling.

Really, the only major exception to this seems to be TCW, but that's out of necessity- the show was canned with a lot of stuff still untold and they've been finding ways to tell those stories and provide closure for those characters.
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>>89845395
I had a dream about Bendu being in The Last Jedi actually.

He talked to Rey, or Kylo, I don't remember much. But he was trying to help them with their light side, dark side identity crisis shit.

Was after I watched an admittedly shit video on youtube where the poster was insisting that Disney was pushing the idea of grey Jedi, and used Ahsoka/Bendu as an example, and using them as forshadowing for the future of the ST. Obviously Disney/Lucasfilm is not doing that, Pablo's even publicly talked about how Grey Jedi is a dumb concept.

But the idea of Bendu being seeded for a future movie, like the Hammerheads were, must have stuck with me.

He would be a great Yoda figure for Episode 8. Maz a shit.
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>>89845620
>Maz a shit

Agreed. I instantly hated her.
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>>89845395
It depends on what the Bendu even does in the movies. All he is now is substitute Yoda except he has no trouble with what happens in the Galactic Civil War. I hope doesn't get killed by Thrawn in the bombardment of Chopper Base
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>>89842410
>TPM
Gungan City and introduction to Coruscant
>AotC
Coruscant chase and the Nabootiful countryside
>RotS
I love everything about it, I really can't choose.
>ANH
Binary Sunset
>ESB
Luke contacting Leia through the force
>RotJ
Luke and Leia's talk on Endor
>TFA
Takodana
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What were your thoughts upon first seeing The Force Awakens compared to your thoughts on it now?
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>>89846041
>Initial Thoughts
Liked it

>Now
Least favorite Star Wars movie
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>>89846041

The first time I saw it I was very disappointed. Now I absolutely loathe the movie.

To be fair I saw it in january of this year and I saw RO first, so I was already totally spoiled.
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>>89846041
Basically: >>89846066

I liked TFA but I was left with a bad taste in my mouth regarding some stuff. As time went on, I started to hate it more and more.

Compared to Rogue One where I liked it then, and still do three months later. By about 3 months after TFA, I was already looking at he movie very poorly, so I think RO is going to have much more staying power as a welcome and beloved Star Wars movie.
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>>89846041
I was bored, and now I hate for being a rip off of ANH only because of JJ
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>>89846041

I liked it.

I saw it 3 times in theaters.
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>>89846041
Loved it, watched it six times in one week. These threads have red pilled me, however. Now I realize it's a mess
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I still like TFA better than AOTC and TPM.
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>>89846414
Ok
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>>89846364
You should think for yourself, anon. Don't let other people tell you how to think. That's what happened to most people regarding the prequels after they saw the RLM videos.
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>>89844123
In Bloodlines (which is set about 6 years before TFA) the biggest political event in years is the revelation that Leia Organa's father was Darth Vader and that Vader was a former Jedi named Anakin Skywalker.
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>>89846364

Ehhh, I can see where these red pill-ers are coming from, but I still enjoy it for what it is.
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We need a new thread, guys.
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>>89846505
I got it covered
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>>89846364
Funny, I hated it at first but these threads helped me realize that its a pretty good movie.
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>>89846561
>>89846561
>>89846561

new thread
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>>89846477
>thinking for yourself

I do like the prequels though, Clone Wars really helped them out
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