I know that this series is practically taboo here, but can we have a Homestuck lore/world-building thread? There's so much potential in sburb in the classpects and all kids these days ever want to talk is gay kids and shipping.
Whose up for a lore thread? What part of sburb interests you the most? Denizens, classpects, sprites, maybe the Planet Quests?
anon a lot of the hg posters here are done man.
im not sure how the general in trash is doing that board is dead as fuck, but here have a bump
Classpects (specifically, aspects) are what interest me the most; it's pretty easy to conclude lands just symbolically the ways a player needs to grow as a person; that's nice and all, but you really can't go from there. Aspects, on the other hand, are really cool because they're like the MtG color system; trying to figure out what parts of the world are described by each aspect is pretty fun. It's a shame a ton of aspects don't really have an important character to give us any big development.
Also, @ your image; Sollux and Eridan, being teenagers who were actually in concupiscent relationships on Planet Screw or Die, almost certainly aren't virgins.
Homestuck is dead, m8. All the cool kids are now in Fatass Universe and Undermeme.
It occured to me I hadn't visited /trash/ since its creation
>95% furry porn
What's the fucking point
>there are people who legitimately post in that board
I'm not gonna fall in that one. I remember well what happened with the /fur/.
The entire alchemy system is really fucking cool and I hope I live to see a game that can emulate that kind of shit to its fullest potential. Pretty much everything about Sburb is the perfect video game to me and that's why I even bothered with the comic in the first place.
At first I thought you actually meant "class pets" and for a second I thought I had missed some exposition, like the classes actually giving the players unique pets or something.
I briefly participated in making an Svurv tabletop RPG.
never went anywhere. I did like the idea of the Sburb disk being glitched and kids winding up without planets or with the reckoning starting before they even arrive and having to deal with the consequences.
Horrible image to start a thread tbrh
Were the missing calendar arts found yet?
Same here, what a wasted opportunity of having a webcomic that aged like wine. You should check the sburb glitch FAQ, shit gives inspiration to code something related.
I thought you were fucking joking.
That does it. I'm going to go off myself.
you can also find some of this shit on mspabooru
vitiligo, it's the newest trend for "progressive" race headcanons
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so are these images supposed to be repulsive?
>What part of sburb interests you the most?
I was always the most interested in the upgraded great the kids got by fusing random crap. I don't remember it happening after the first two or three chapters, though. Acts, w/e, it's been years.
as much as how much of these fanarts unintentionally look like racist caricatures
Of course not, whitewashing is progress :^)
Last time it happened was dave reversing his sword to caledfwlch and terezi's scarf. A6A6I1 was such a good act for all shit the kickstarter brought
that one isn't that bad but half the point to me was Dave being a turbo-hip white guy whose brother was a turbo-hip but also creepy white guy with an unusual preoccupation with rap and hiphop.
goddamn they look weird.
which in tumblr's mind translates to dave being a "hip" 80s-90s black street kid
who the fuck is he standing next to anyways?
seem there's this enormous thing with Dave and his Bro, you know Irony? They're white guys but they're down with black culture and his bro is a puppet fetishist. Making dave black strips away one of the layers of irony.
and really the only thing that connects them with "black culture" is their love for hip-hop, making them black just based on that is also kinda hilariously racist
I'm not considering the people who jump to SU and UT are cool. I was just saying just because some of popular people (I should had that instead of cool kids) left the fandom doesn't mean the fandom is dead.
I really liked the alchemy thing. I wanted to see it in the tabletop RPGs as " combine two +1 items, get a +2 item". You could eventually get very powerful items but the cost would grow exponentially. (+0 items are practically free, +1 items are a token sum, +2 items are +1x2, +3 items are +1x4, +4 items are +1x8, etc etc)
For an RPG that is less crunch more narrative, alchemizing items would combine their adjectives. Mixing a "sharp fork" and "heavy spoon" would get you a "sharp heavy spork". More powerful weapons would have a ridiculous number of adjectives, making them bizarre and unwieldy ("sharp heavy loud tuning two-handed singing flaming axolotl")
I'm up for it bro
Do you guys think denizens were retconned hard during Act 6? I have the suspicion they didn't work as they turned out to do, and that we were meant to see how they actually looked like before Hussie backpedalled.
>it's a Harry Potter AU focused on fucking Karkat fic
>gets hyped and nervous which house he will go
>all his friends get introduced, the Scourge Sisters bully him, Nepeta has the usual crush on Karkat, Karkat and Terezi had some history together
>house sorting starts
>Terezi gets sorted to Gryffindor
>Vriska gets sorted to Slytherin, she is cheering, but her sister Aranea from Ravenclaw is facepalming
>yes, all the fucking dancestors are older siblings
>after Nepeta got sorted to Hufflepuff, it's Karkat's turn
>begging the hat to not be on Hufflepuff or Slytherin and that he wants to be on Gryffindor
>his brother Kankri already giving speeches how Karkat will be the best Gryffindor example
the hat keks him and announces that he is in Slytherin
gryffindor table starts laughing at kankri while he makes up speeches how to tolerate people from other houses
Karkat just looking dead outside, but inside he is in maxium self-loathing mode
Vriska taunting him that he should have been in Hufflepuff, his other friends look surprised that Karkat got sorted to the backstabber house, even worse how Eridan got sorted to Gryffindor and all the discussion went to him and Cronus not being on Slytherin for being snobby assholes
his day ends with him sobbing on his bed and then dreaming how Terezi is kissing a black-haired guy with glasses
>also the fic is introducing every hogwarts class with HS characters
>all the humans are on gryffindor
>Karkat befriends with Jade, Dave is racist towards Slytherin members and John gets hated on by Karkat but he doesn't care
>also tons of kek situation with Terezi hanging out with Dave
>also Karkat accidently listening to a conversation with John breaking up with Vriska
>his day also gets better when Tavros from Gryffindor stood up for himself and btfo'd Vriska while she is in full bully mode on him
If I wanted to read a Karkat HP fic I'd actually read it. Isn't it the Goblet of Sick Fires one, or are you just making this up?
In any case, no-sburb AUs are worse than hitler. Gimme some Want of a Nail if you have it.
how do we tell the difference between something that was planned one way, and changed before publication, and something that was just vaguely defined but solidified before publication?
Hussie had denizens in mind, and knew what they'd look like since Act 1 at least. The only thing I'd think was made-up-slap-dash was the idea that the Troll players also had denizens, or we'd ever hear about their denizens.
>Meenah is also in Slytherin and the self-proclaimed "Queen"
>starts crushing on Karkat hard
>too bad she is in a relationship with Vriska right now
>while Meenah is listening to Karkat's rants, she gets the urge to kiss him
>she does, while Vriska is watching
>ends up with Karkat being beaten up to a pulp by Vriska and Meenah just crying and telling both of them to avoid her
And then the fic abruptly ended and discontinued. Author also wanted to write about Terezi and John, and how Kankri and Aranea banged with each other on full detail. And yes, the whole fic has fuck-all to do with magic.
Is he ever going to address the fact that the Denizens released their grist hoards without the players confronting them and making the Choice/fighting them? Will he handwave it away as happening off-screen, or that it falls under special circumstances (the upcoming fight being at least Denizen-level), or just ignore it and hope nobody noticed?
Homestuck has some of the most legit fanfic of any work. Stuff like the entire helmsman mythos, just really great and genius stuff that really should find some way to grow into standing alone.
>I don't think the planet quests are forgotten or going to be dismissed.
I bet you think Hussie still writes Homestuck too
I'm the fanfiction EXPERT and I can tell you Homestuck doesn't even rate top 5. It has in fact one of the worst track record, the only finished fanfics are shipping fics.
You mean the most legit fanon, if anything.
i thought it was implied to be part of the deal with Echidna? also there is no way he's letting go of Rose (refusing to) playing the rain being an important latent subplot. he deliberately brought it up again in the big lilypad recap bs.
>You mean the most legit fanon, if anything.
actually, yeah, that sounds about right. the fanon of alternia, in particular, is just incredible, as legit as any other big world-building project.
play the rain originally just meant finding the DNA sequences to revive the ocean life on her planet, said sequences had been encoded in the light beams of her planet, which she can learn to 'read' with her seer of light powers.
It'll probably be re-purposed to her helping revive the human and troll race
That's putting words in my mouth. All I was saying was, yuri is less boring when one of the established girls in this fictional universe has a penis. The only difference from this character before to now, is that she now has a throbbing 10 inch uncut dick
This John looks like the type of John to hold a gun to your head, demand that you suck his dick, make you swallow, and then blow your brains out right afterward.
He holds that exact face through the entirety of it.
The most dedicated fanfiction community I've seen, other than like, the obscenely popular stuff like Harry Potter, was for fucking Ranma 1/2 of all things.
The people who know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about.
Man, the previous generation of fujoshi was so much cooler than the tumblr crowd. I barely touched down on that community because I'm a dude but I had a livejournal so I saw enough. They just didn't give a shit, like, everyone today is obsessed with making their perspective the new status quo and becoming a part of the system but those girls were comfortable being outcasts.
They are so obsessed because of (ironically) not being ashamed of. Same thing went with weaaboos, whose term was also pejorative until /a/ and 2c started ironically shitposting it until the stereotype gave life. Also its how saying "homestuck sucks" and that picture of a black man walking behind cosplayers brought the average fan who makes shit like >>78237065
But thats a cycle and in 5, 10 years 'old fujoshis' may be the norm again
Man, this reminds me of a lewd comic with Aranea sucking shota Karkat's dick and Meenah licking loli Vriska's pussy. Then the final panel shows them comparing their stained candyred/cerulean tongues with each other.
Porn discussion aside, how do you guys feel about Homestuck being more character-focused than on the adventure part? I think Hussie tries his hardest to please both.
Do you remember, /co/?
"You Can't Fight the Homestuck"?
"How far we've come"?
"Kids and Fun"?
You tought this was just a game? That everything was harmless? Oh, how naive you were.
>OP tries to create a thread to discuss lore/worldbuilding
>it ends with people bashing it other to state why they hate homestuck now
/LEADERSHIP/ is the superior waifu, fám.
I'm so progressive.
>you now realize Homestuck has been written by the fictional characters and Hussie is also just a creation
>John started writing Homestuck as a simple adventure webcomic
>his comic gets popular
and he hires Karkat and Vriska as writers for his comic around the end of Act 4.
every romance bullshit and Vriska-worshipping you witnessed has been written by these two assholes
How does this make you feel?
has homestuck taught you anything? How to write, how not to write, anything?
Not exactly to write but on how different a webcomic's structure can be despiste not sharing the same audience of printed volumes, because all I read before was CAD-tier
And how not to write... everything from act 6 turning the structure into a regular, boring comic. How MSPA style slowy fades, commands stop being given (even if fake ones) and narration is abscent.
How to have a update schedule.
How to not add billions of characters.
How to not experiment with shit like Vriska Serket being forced down on us and using Tavros as a satellite character. (Too many mixed reactions with her.)
How to not announce a fucking kickstarter game project while your comic isn't finished yet.
How to not have guest artists force their fucking headcanon designs to the audience. (Turtleneck Karkat or you get bullied to death by Tumblr.)
I've learnt plenty of stuff that I might have forgotten already, but the thing I remember the most is "no matter if you're at the top, you can always fuck it up and displease all your fans".
What Tumblr wants: Davekat, everyone talking about sexuality, Jane accepting her inner fatness
What the fans want: Homestuck to end
What we will get: Karkat/Calliope, Jade turns into an universe, Karkat cries like a bitch when he gets btfo'd by fucking alpha Vriska, (Vriska) saves the day and defeats LE with the power of friendship and the GO!characters, comic goes for another fucking hiatus
>tfw that never will happen
I miss you, /hsg/
minor character, major plot device
i feel we never really got to see all the cool combinations of different classes fighting against each other, like a prince of light wrecking the shit of a rouge of light.
or a thief of doom being bamboozled by a bard of hope
the only instance of the was when aranea decided to use her powers to hack jake's hope powers and then dirk used his heart powers to put an end to that, or how calliope used he muse powers to help roxy's rouge powers
I made that once.
I just want an rpg with randomly generated elements where your decisions affect literally everything. 'Oops I stuck my clown and my grandma into my sprite, guess everything is gonna be clowns from now on.'
And randomly generated Lands. Land of X and Y, with random monsters and random sburb coplayers (a full co-op would be just unrealistic).
DF kinda has that modularity, but I don't want to micromanage an economy. What I want is closer to a Skyrim mod than a DF one.
Start the game
Choose if you're a host/client
You're a random kid in a random house, full of random objects and a random backstory. For the first part of the game you mess with the machinery and create your sprite, fighting imp/whatevers. In the second part, you travel to the different randomly generated lands and quest among the randomly generated civilizations if there are any, you level up and do whatever you're supposed to do in sburb. Then after you fight your randomly generated denizen, you team up with the other players and win at chess or whatever random hijinks occur on this session and the game congratulates you on your victory.
No scratched timelines, no timetraveling trolls, no players from a different session.
Something like this could be almost infinitely replayable if done right, just imagine.
Look at this :http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?32488-Nestbound!-(Or-Kaz-and-Rae-s-bugs-come-out-to-play!)
Look how much fun they're having. I wan't to play that game. Why did it have to be this way?
Here's a fun game. Go to Tumblr, type in your favorite character's name in the search bar under photos, and count how many posts it takes before you see a brown version, a cross-dressing version, a non-straight version, or a version of the character with body modification. The higher the number the more points the character has. Character with the most points wins.
Vriska was raised by a hungry spider mom that she has to feed and because of her blood class she has to live up to huge expectations that she thinks she can't live up to. She retards the things she done. She had a hard life.
Is it wrong to shoe sympathy or to feel pity for her?
If I recall correctly you're not too far off the point where there are several really fucking long pesterlogs of her moaning how she's a terrible person and Alternia is a terrible place
Yes, she does terrible things but it's all sorta kinda understandable except for the petty violence she commits on one poor lame-o. It's like something out of a folktale but I can't put my finger on it.
If only we could go back in time and avoid hiveswap. If only...
I'm calling bullshit on the toxic masculinity.
Dave just rants about how in retrospect he hates his BroDad. Homestuck is already filled to the brim with bullshit, you don't need to add more in
How can anyone like this fucking bitch at all?
She only exists to steal all of Karkat's romantic interests. Soon, she will end up fucking Jade and Dave next.
that I'm re-reading that particular conversation, because it's a really awkward one. Dave attempts to explain "fluid sexuality" to John, John doesn't get it, Karkat is embarrassed, and then Dave is stoked about having a TeenMom. Hooray he doesn't talk about "toxic masculinity"
I love all the pesterlogs in Homestuck. They're the best part of the comic.
They're the reason I think it's better than Problem Sleuth
>he doesn't talk about "toxic masculinity"
DAVE: which thrives on this like double-buried implication that the REAL COOL SHIT is founded on this absurd wanky ideal about masculinity which if you think about it is 1. dumb as fuck 2. the male adulation of masculinity to that extent TO BE HONEST is pretty fucking gay unto itself and 3. was always some totally impossible shit for us to live up to anyway
this was almost what Hussie was going to write instead of Homestuck....
well fuck. that's what I get for skimming / Ctrl F "toxic"
That doesn't sound that bad. He's kind of right, too. Wait, is that the tumblr definition of toxic masculinity? I thought theirs was pretty much anything "manly" or "masculine" was inherently bad.
I feel the same.
Sometimes I revisit the first couple acts of HS just to feel nostalgic about how cool Sburb is. I started reading when Eridan getting chainsawed in half was the newest update, and I've kept up to date since. I just want it to be over.
what ideal is "totally impossible" for them to live up to. theyre superpowered teens on an adventure.
getting lots of babes? making it to the top of a fiercely competitive field? becoming a giant hulk like lord english?
More like Hussie ran out of steam and didn't have any idea of what to do with jade despite all the potential and wanted to do gay singularity anyway
Which sounds more like Hussie coming up for with a bullshit excuse about why he dropped dave's entire character arc, and then had them mock it by saying "lol character arcs don't exist"
Dave's arc has been consistent the whole comic. He doesn't want to be the hero, he doesn't want to be Bro 2.0, he doesn't want to martyr himself or do terrible things for the greater good, so he tries to find ways to get the job done without crossing those lines
I'll take the bait because some people legitimately forgot.
John confronted his meme snake, then jumped cross-canon to a universe -John -Roxy +Vriska. In this universe, everyone confronted their meme snakes before John arrived.
Lazy writing, I know, but it's better than a million pages of horSeshIt
Not that anon but where did it say that? At the least Rose said she hasn't seen Cetus.
>VRISKA: Assuming you 8other going to see her at all. Couldn't really 8lame you if you didn't though.
>ROSE: I probably won't.
Definitely the whole "build in a real world with your friends" aspect. I've always wanted a Sburb-esque thing in Spergcraft where my friends and I each have our own world on a server or whatever, with increasingly tougher opponents, and each of our worlds has it's own resources that we have to provide because they aren't available in the other worlds. Eventually, we'd have a final boss of some sort, like in Sburb. I mean, I'd much rather play Sburb than spergcraft, but that's about as close to Sburb as I can get.
Also, classpects are wonderful, especially with the whole "some classpects level up/fully realize faster but aren't as tough, vice versa" thing. I love it
jesus, not even 10 comments in and you cucks start doing the exact thing OP said was shitty, gg Homestuck fandom.
I know what ya mean. All we really got from Hope was "it takes forever and it's OP," and Rage got approximately jack shit in the way of explanation, in place of gay kids being thirsty
but that's bullshit, the only differences in the new universe are the ones you listed, rose had no opportunity to make 'the choice' because jade still has all the planets, in fact nor did dave although he's spoken to Hephaestus before iirc
Spore was originally going to be like that but they fucked it up. You could control the species evolution at the celluar stage and onwards, and what you did at the beginning would affect the later societal and even galactic scale of your endgame.
Too bad they censored it into being a steaming pile of shit.
So just like Homestuck
Really, Dave should take over as the main character, make him more average, and have Dave/Jade happen
Far more cliche.
She doesn't wash things at all. She's got future stuff to do it for her
That or the player since apparently she was aware of the mouse picking stuff up
do you think her hair reach past her ass?
i bet sometimes she forgets to move her hair when she squats and shits
can you imagine huge turds getting stuck in her hair?
You can't make it a movie. Make it a netflix series and strip out most of post-hiatus act 6.
And act 6 in general would need a heavy rewrite. An actual editor and writer to sit down with Hussie and tell him why it's shit.
An adaption yes. It's got all the things kids like. Might have to be a trilogy or something though
>weird gunfight with supersoliders
>character got shot
>GAME OVER screen appears
>war scenario fades away
>supersolider outfit fades away showing a dorkguy
>that dorkguy start doing a monologue
>"In the future, gaming evolved far away from a computer screen. We now live the era of IMMERSIVE REALITY GAMING."
>"Games now can totally interact with reallife matter creating a whole new expirience in gaming."
>"As you can see, i'm not the best in those kinda of games..."
An anime would honestly probably be the only way to even slightly translate it to another medium and not have a completely different product at the end.
No movie, live action or otherwise, could work, and western animation is too cucked to make anything above PG, so that'd be fucked from the get go.
In terms of act 1, it takes like, 15 minutes at the most when translated into film or television.
Which raises the question of how the fuck did they get the Beta planets to their original size with Jade being asleep?
What was the most autistic thing you ever done related to homestuck?
Back in 2011, i did ERP on pesterchum roleplaying as Terezi.
CHOOSE YOUR SEX SLAVE
slightly better than what i'm expecting:
a lot of time bullshit that ends with some variation of "a young man stand in his bedroom."
I'm expecting one more use of the phrase
>IT BEGINS TO DAWN ON YOU. THAT EVERYTHING YOU JUST DID. MAY HAVE BEEN A COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME.
maybe not by caliborn but you get the idea
Canon: Aradia dislikes Equius, Vriska, Eridan and Karkat the most.
what's the secret to getting into hussie's inner circle of dank irony and social justice?
here, more aradia
Dave running the stock market with time travel, and Terezi saying that to prove she's helpful a future Dave will give him a thumbs up, and Dave says that won't happen but immediately sees Future Dave hiding behind a column giving a thumbs up
Dave's whole rave at that point was about toxic heroism, not toxic masculinity, although masculinity is what is making the heroism toxic by making heroes look like they have to be 20-foot-tall super handsome morally objective carnivores, or essentially Lord English if he was human. Dave was saying that seems really stupid, considering how gay most of the shit seems and yet we think being gay is unmanly and unheroic.
at least he follows that up with this
A shame it didn't happen several years ago, when the comic still had all that potential.
this seems like character assassination. dave didn't seem like he really cared about "gayness" at all beside as a joke. again, hussie goes into the past and re-writes his comic. the comic as it was wasn't good enough, dave is now a quasi-shitlord who reformed himself.
the text is really vague and unclear, too. but why does he care about how being gay is considered. (by who??) is he worried about upsetting dirk? he's the last gay being dave knows. being gay isn't a thing in troll society.
it's also really uninteresting for dave to say that his behavior is a cover-up. what next, is he going to start ranting about how he has a thing for moms? it's like during some months of the hiatuses hussie became unused to writing his characters, and made observations of what a character like dave is like.
>Roleplaying Rose all week
>Get used to using her stupidly eloquent vernacular or whatever the fuck
>Later, today, be hanging out with friends
>Accidentally use only words or phrasing that Rose would use
>Friends laugh at me and talk shit for trying to sound so refined.
R-Right, Ha-h-ha, I was just dumb and trying to be a pompous asshole
>only 83 shitty meme replies and we are finally dead again
>OP says he'd like this thread to be about world-building a lore, not shipping or the usual shit
>Everyone is posting shipping pics, rants about supposedly gay Dave, and the Trolls
I'm starting to see why old /hsg/ was banned from /co/
Shipping is part of the lore and is even the main point for Act 5 and 6.
Has fuck-all to do with his hero arc and is brought up from the past, so he can fuck Karkat.
They are shallow, fun as fuck, autism bait and related to zodiac shit. We should talk how Feferi gets screwed over by everyone.
I wrote a Homestuck Undertale thing. It's Vriska and Tavros playing Undertale, complete with pictures. I've been told that it is very funny.
I was going to write more of it but I got distracted writing MTG smut for /tg/. I also have a Gravity Falls fic on my to-do list and it's kinda time sensitive, and Homestuck DnD is still a thing too. That being said, I have a fair amount of free time the next couple weeks, so next chapter coming... hopefully soon.
> giving a more substantive update on the progress with both Homestuck and Hiveswap around the end of the year
> say when Homestuck will update by the end of the year
Crearly meant the newspost
It kinda helped me with humor but also a good example of how to not let your story fall the fuck apart & the importance of writing for yourself and not your audience.
buy my game I write hard on it
>Aranea will never come back and suffocate us with her thighs
>you will never give brain damage to your favorite trolls
>Porn discussion aside, how do you guys feel about Homestuck being more character-focused than on the adventure part? I think Hussie tries his hardest to please both.
I don't mind it, as long as he finishes the story arcs, I like both character pieces and adventure so it's no real problem for me how the story plays out
Moar Viska plots
But seriously, eh... I wouldn't really care?
I mean it's still entertaining and has kept my interest so it's been doing something right
Yes, but I got into it fairly late
Aradia is overrated
Gent of Piss
She's an amusing asshole, also she's pitiable when she stops and thinks about what she's done
We would have grown to hate that if it was what we got, look into your heart, you know it to be true
Looking forward to all this
>>you will never give brain damage to your favorite trolls
I am honestly not sure Vriska isn't already brain damaged