Incest twins Edition
>there are people on this board who didn't grow up with It's Patsy!
It means you talk while watching with others.
I finished it last night.
I can safely say I went on and off and on again feeling sorry for the sister-incest twin.
My empathy meter for her ranged from absolute hatred to actual tears of sadness.
Jessica Jones taught me that Lesbians are usually fucking evil and need to die.
Get mad stay mad /lgbt/
I wish they didn't telegraph the twists so hard
like Will bring suspicious of Malcolm not too long before it's revealed that he's under Kilgrave's control, or making absolutely sure you know that his powers last longer right before it's revealed Luke is under his control
Pam was still fucking evil. She was just hot so you were willing to let her get away with more.
>My disgusted yet aroused face when Pam says she's attracted to her bitchiness and powermongering.
I want to post the SJW twitter joy just to piss them off. That board has become literal trash.
>Jewel is a stipper's name, a real slutty stripper
She made no sense. She was happily fucking Jeryn while she was married then while the divorce was proceeding she became this huge cunt that put stipulations on their relationship hinging on her being completely divorced, and being a bigger cunt to the woman she was married to for years because 'that's the woman she fell in love with'.
It sent her on the spiral that led to her trying to use Jessica to strong-arm her ex then trying to use Kilgrave to the same end, which made one of them dead and the other in jail and Jeryn with nothing but a redemption story through Danny Rand when Iron Fist comes.
The Russians in DD and now Simpson inn JJ why is the side characters so much better than the main character?
I'm about halfway through. Nothing has been as strong as the first episode yet, but its still good. Killgrave is a compelling villain. Cage is good. Trish is hot. I like Jessica, but she's the sort of character that not everyone will be into.
Things I didn't know I enjoyed:
>Those jeans her butt was in
>Maladjusted Bitchtude Female Protagonists (this series and a manga called Teppu has me thinking that this character archetype needs more love)
>Live action Luke Cage
>Milfs from the Matrix
>The "artistic" gentleman in the OP
>Mop headed side kicks
>Villains that are immature, psychopathic, and generally confused about life
Things I didn't know I disliked:
>Buddy cops reveal they are former spec ops and currently bootleg super soldiers
>Excessive childhood flashbacks
>Flashbacks that insult the viewer's intelligence by slowing down scenes
>Zooming in on important details that were obvious by simply using the cognitive skill of an eight year old
>Lull episodes that calm the tension between intense moments (seriously, a 20min break is fine, but a 48min one is pushing it)
All in all, I give this an objective 7.5/10 where Daredevil was a 7/10. It had its flaws, but it turned out to be a solid piece of entertainment.
As for the Purple man not being purple, I'll say this:
HAHA, NERDS. No, seriously, it did not affect the narrative in the slightest.
I was actually really compelled to binge watch... up until the quarter or so of the show. Not that I didn't want to watch it, but the same relentless drive wasn't there. Kilgrave gets captured and escapes one too many times, I feel. The whole thing with the support group felt really contrived, and fuck that twin sister. Malcolm turned out great, I felt bad about Rubin, even, but she was just an annoying cunt. I know that was her character, but her comic relief was grating.
It felt a bit too scattershot at times. Like, the stuff with the divorce and Simpson/Nuke eventually got tied in, thankfully, but for a while it'd seem like a total distraction.
On the other hand, I thought Ritter was great I still want Jessie's girl and Tennant stole every fucking scene he was in. I was skeptical going in, but he sold me. The scene in the police station alone was fucking great.
I wish we got more "Jessica tries to direct Kilgrave to good" really. That alone seems like a premise to an entire series.
Also, the fight scenes were a real step down from Daredevil. It's super strength and not ninjas, yeah, but there's just too much picking up and throwing guys over and over and over.
I'd probably put my rating at 8/10, or maybe a 7/10. Still really good, and I'm real hopeful for Luke Cage.
It's good but had some problems. For example:
One guy controlled coincidentally happens to be a black ops super soldier
Immune to his powers for now reason.
Characters treat Simpson like a bad guy before he actually does bad things like retroactively justifying the characters treatment of him.
Not much action/fight scenes.
Technical shortcomings with graphics, sound, editing etc.
Overall enjoyable and a decent watch with good things to counter those bad.
>tfw we'll never get a Netflix Hawkguy
It's such a shame he got sucked into Avengers movies. There's nothing interesting for him to do there and they've only hurt his character. I don't like Renner that much in the role, either, but that might just be me.
>worst character is a white guy
That twin sister was a cunt, mate, but I don't think calling her a man is the way to go.
Daredevil could probably sense the pheremones, and he'd have an advantage if he knew that Purple Man could control minds from witness accounts and such.
Jessica Jones didn't really make very good tactical movies.
The fact that she didn't have a secret base of operations made things pretty difficult for her. There's a reason why Daredevil hides all his shit.
>But he kne
Masks are important.
He'd probably smell odd, which would lead Daredevil to either get spooked and take a stealthy approach, or back off and try to figure out more about him.
Depending on how many people he was threatening at the moment.
+ Trish is the qt to end all qt's (those leggings hnnngggh)
+ David Tennant was great
+/- Luke Cage?
- Boring lesbian scenes hardly related to the plot
- Jessica Jones was an unlikable bitch
- Effects were shit
- Really odd plotlines (hurr I'm going to try and kill you because the Avengers crushed my mom/ durr take me to superjail so Kilgrave can find me)
- Bad effects
- Bad acting all around except Trish and Kilgrave
Struggling to come up with positives, but I still felt inclined to watch every episode.
Solid 5/10 I guess. Probably will never watch again.
It was a good book, bro. It also lends itself fairly well to the format and I want Kate.
Plus do you really think it would be any worse than what they've done with Hawkeye so far, or whatever the fuck they're planning to do when they get into cosmic shit?
I'll be honest with you, I enjoyed the direction that it went but it was such a detour. The best way I can explain this is through an analogy with the Mass Effect series. Mass Effect 2, my favorite, was an honest to goodness deviation in the plot's advancement. It was an interesting aside, but beyond that it was kind of a scenic route that could have been skipped.
I just felt that Nuke gave off the whole "tacked on for season 2 fun and games" vibe. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed him and all, but the way his character evolved contrasted with the noir tone of the show. It was almost campy while the show tried to be serious.
I do look forward to more of him, though. I feel like there is a lot of potential there.
It was both funny and a respectful gesture to the fans. But, at the same time, it needed a stronger delivery. I wasn't expecting a cringe worthy outburst, just a little more emoting. That was all.
Still, like I said, I enjoyed the show. Netflix appears to be competent with these things.
have you seen two lesbians fucking irl? they spend more time shouting at you and throwing shit at you then actually fucking
Oh god, I went to /tv/
Pic related is my fucking favorite grab from there
when they were talking about Hope and how jeri was such a bitchy lawyer, i was honestly expecting someone to bring up the and coming Nelson & Murdock firm as a potential replacement.
it's nice that we at least get claire though
>Immune to his powers for no reason.
I think the reason Jessica was immune is because of pure mental willpower. It's the only explanation
when you consider Albert couldn't make a vaccine with Jessica's blood sample.
your free now reuben....
Started watching today, I'm nearly done. Fuck this incestuous sister, literally the worst. I can see why someone remarked how she's confirmation that MCU citizens are as dumb as 616 citizens.
Maybe because she was controlled consistantly for so long as well, not a natural resistance build up, but more of a trained resistance, like to get around it you need strong willpower and the mental experience of trying to fight it?
thats how i figure she did it, then once she knew she could it was easy because her brain just knew how
yeah accounting the amount of time she got controlled makes sense too. i think it was a little over a year, right? the shock of killing reva must have snapped her out of his control and then after that her immunity kicked in.
I just dont think the ending was big enough, with how the built that power boost...I wanted some epic mind control going on in the end there
also what a waste of good purpleman
I still loved the whole thing, and was oddly more invested then I was in daredevil
both get a 10/10 would marathon again one day
What was the point of this shit, they were just useless filler
I want to find ways he can be alive
I want to pull a
glennand just fan dream all day about how he made it
but this time its pretty hard to imagine, unless his power boost let him tell people to also SEE what he wanted them to see....but idk they didnt leave a door open for him to be alive outside of total bullshit
"you either live long enough to be a shitty villain, or die a legendary one"
or go full vegeta or green ranger but kilgrave aint no fucking hero
I already forgot what happened that made me think they were incest but I thought so. I'm thinking Jessica said they were into kinky stuff with eachother before they revealed that the guy was wearing a diaper, implying they were doing some kinky stuff.
They seemed too close and talked too emotionally to just be friends.
"I don't hear from you for months. 6 months actually"
"I needed breathing room"
"You shut me out"
I would never have a convo like that with just one of my friends. So not knowing they were sisters I assumed they were ex lovers.
They could say he gained regeneration powers that revived him from near death, but he's way too powerful to just let him run around free. Unless SHIELD is able to safely house a guy like him, nigga needs to die.
before that it was implied that in between loud fights they were having loud sex, but it could have just been that the sister's name calling sometimes skirted towards the kind of insults normally reserved for BDSM and Jessica disliked them too much to give the benefit of the doubt.
Thats pretty much 90% of the problem with /tv/ atm.
Why do you think they are so obsessed with keking over there? Its pretty much if /r9k/ and /pol/ were blended together right now.
I'm at Episode 5 now. I think it's not anywhere as good as the Daredevil series but I like it anyway. Still, it's much better than everything else by Marvel made it to the screen, that includes all their other shitty movies and series except Daredevil.
Does it get any better?
Just finished it, thought it was okay, nothing really special.
Tenant & Cage pretty much stole the show
Didn't expect to see Nuke come up at all, it was a nice surprise and set up.
JJ a shit
Jeryn a shit
Wendy a shit
Hope a shit
Crazy twins a shit
First five episodes felt like a chore to get through.
Fight scenes felt as bad or worse than the last DD fight
Effects looked like crap
Inconsistent powers (jumping in particular, she rarely fucking uses it, if she can jump and land without being injured why the fuck doesn't she jump out of half the fights)
Painfully similar to the comic character which is also a shit.
At least it's better than heroes.
Which makes me wanna ask, are the JJ comics any good?
I mean, I keep seeing the Bendis name being thrown here n' there and I really hate what he did to the X-Men. I just don't see how he ever did any good.
yeeeeaaaah but so far in the MCU no ones survived something like this
Coulsin had a whole project dedicated to his revival, which was really just about making sure we kept Coulsin because wheden fucked up....he did it again with Peitro but idk if we can undo that one...
this aint the comics, this is the cinematic universe based on the comics, and we dont really know the rules yet because they arent 70+ years old
dumb shit happens....a lot
hell if media was half as real as the real world, then the inconsistent dumb ass shit that happens would be unwatchable confusing garbage...thus reality TV
He's a lot easier to hold than Magneto. Make sure his cell has an airlock and move his food tray back and forth with pneumatics. If guards have to go near him, they do it with full hazmat suits and earplug, otherwise just have a perspex wall and a microphone in his cell.
He can attend his trial by video-camera.
How can Hogarth be so stupid as to let him out. Without any kind of hold over him. He could have just immediately told her to kill herself once she opened the door. She's supposed to be a genius lawyer.
Sociopathy is not an excuse for stupidity.
Or you can just try and kill him under New York state law because he's got a lot of murder, rape, and attempted murder charges.
90% of your current assets plus monthly spousal support that matches the lifestyle the spouse once lived is serious, and I mean, serious business. People have murdered and committed suicide over less.
Trust me, I went to law school and I'm kind of a lawyer.
I started on /b/ 5 years ago or so.....I came here for quieter times...its like retiring early
I tried to go to /tv/ before I came here....I mean you guys sorta freak me out a little but your mostly good...thats not the word....your alright people. /tv/ was some kind of sad I couldnt hit myself with twice in a row....I dont want to look pathetic in the face that hard ya know?
comparing flash to jessica jones is the same as comparing flash to daredevil. the tones of the shows are far too different to draw fair comparisons, as well as their messages.
kilgrave's stalking skills makes wells' stalking look like child's play for the record.
Damn, this show is kind of shitty. I don't really feel like finishing it. Marvel kind of sucks now a lot. This whole movie/show universe is lame as fuck.
This is the show that made me realize it
Outside by the yacht she wasn't controlled either despite being in full view of him. Well, at least until her headphones got knocked off and she spent thirty seconds not putting them back on.
>muh evil parents
>a bloo bloo bloo
getting real tired of your shit, Netflix villains
I just finished episode 7.
That scene with Robin looking for Reuben actually got to me. Felt really bad for her, which is a first for the show.
>tfw you'll never have an obsessed dom twin sister
...why not both?
I was hoping that
taking the red pill without a resistance to the drugwould have a side effect of turning her hair bright red.
I'm on episode 5, and while I'm enjoying it (it's not as good as Daredevil), the amount of sex in the show makes me uncomfortable.
>It's a show created by a woman
>there's sex everywhere
Typical women, sex is all they can think about.
Was it ever explained how Jessica knew Hogarth? I kept expecting it to pop up in one of the flashbacks like Malcolm did but it never happened. I guess she just happened to be one of Jessica's regular clients?
guys I just watched the one where Killgrave gave the neighbor lady the bomb. holy shit, didn't see that ending coming. i fucking hate having to go to bed with that cliffhanger, haha.
Also, Killgrave is easily the best MCU villain. I didn't think they could top Fisk, but damn.
It's a small complaint about it, but I do get frustrated that the Netflix shows have a staggering lack of crossover with other parts of the universe.
While I think that's great as it allows these heroes to shine on their own, I still want to feel like it all adds up to a larger story, especially if The Defenders is looming in the near future.
I don't understand why there isn't any post credits scenes like the films. I mean I understand that Marvel is really just improvising all the Netflix shows at this point, but they really need to get it together.
He's pretty scary if you're not prepared for him. If you're actually on to him and want to stop him then Kilgrave is trivially easy to stop.
Why are they even calling it the Defenders when there won't be a single person from the Defenders on the team? In what way will it be the Defenders?
kingpin's father was evil, but his mom was basically a saint.
did fucked up shit but they only did it because he would have died otherwise. they tried to make it up to him but he only cared about revenge.
will literally never show up again because Marvel doesn't have the full rights to Hulk from Universal, meaning no Hulk movie in the works.
we'll have to wait until Infinity Wars to see, but for all intensive purpose i'm counting him as dead until then.
I'm guessing when Spider-Man comes out they'll give a shit enough to not murder the villain at the end, but overall Marvel is too fucking lazy to make credible long-term villains.
I believe it. My mom fought with her girlfriend a few times, and she in turn fought with the girlfriend before my mom more times than anybody cared to count. And both of those relationships were fairly happy and stable, relatively speaking.
It's "Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and a couple random friends". How is that not a summary of Heroes for Hire? What, are you gonna try and sell me on the idea that Misty and Colleen are crucial to the core concept?
>yfw kingpin and kilgrave are more menacing villains than ultron and loki, despite the latter two being a robot and a god respectively
its was pretty good
nowhere near as good as daredevil, but still good
that last scene was fucking disappointing, kilgrave went out like a bitch, none of the contingency plans he had beforehand in literally every encounter
far too much sex in the first few episodes as well, kinda offputting
nuke was GOAT
the villains don't need to keep showing up, but it's lazy to just have them die at the end.
and long-term villains can be done. loki was the primary antagonist for Thor and Avengers, while being a secondary antagonist in Thor 2
Please tell me he's gonna be in DD S2. That would be awesome as fuck.
When are we getting DD S2 anyways?
I like the show, but having a saxophone in the soundtrack doesn't make neo-noir.
Well you're actually wrong about that because Misty and Colleen are the principle supporting characters of Heroes for Hire. They aren't a part of the group themselves, they have their own detective agency Daughters of the Dragon.uke, Danny Colleen and Misty are the main characters of Heroes for Hire
>autistic rage ruins everything
The most important lesson the show taught us.
>That's the biggest problem with cape movies nowadays. Always have to keep the villains and be devoid of impactful conclusion.
what cape movies have you been watching? almost every marvel movie has the villain die, the one DC movie has zod being killed by superman. the only movie you could be thinking of is the Nolan Bat trilogy, though even Bane and Talia die at the end of Rises.
>every single villain in ASM movies with the exception of maybe Electro
Besides, if someone like Killgrave didn't die that would be lazy and unsatisfying.
Yep, we should get Iron Fist in early 2017 and depending on which shows get second/third seasons, the Defenders miniseries should be late 2017 or early 2018. I honestly expect them to branch out even farther after Defenders, similar to the Avengers effect on the MCU films.
Post your face when
Kilgrave went purple for a moment
Kilgrave L I T E R A L L Y did nothing wrong
>tested on since he was a child by his parents
>never able to have a healthy relationship with another human being
>doesn't know love
>can't interact without his powers interfering
>finally thinks he found love
>rebuild her childhood house for her
>tries to level with her and wants to change for her
>she kidnaps him and locks him up in a tiny room so it can be pottery to your childhood
Can't believe they didn't go with this joke instead.
Naw man, I'm a guy, a dick who is usually less than polite to ladies and don't agree with no sjw, but Kilgrave was fucked up and crazy evil and did everything wrong.
He was that angry little boy from that episode of the Twilight Zone.
i agree that kilgrave's death was satisfying and i'm glad it happened. but it doesn't change marvel's awful track record with villains.
not confirmed if he died or not, but it's assumed right now that he is dead.
still alive and will return
will never show up again because no film rights
unlikely to show up again because RDJ won't do anymore iron man films
not even a villain
dead in present day marvel
so out of everyone on the list, only Loki is a surviving villain.
>RDJ won't do anymore iron man films
He will 10-15 years from now, I guarantee it.
I don't know, haven't read much Exiles, but the episode was about Purple Man, controlling Tony and using one of his machines to amplify his power on a global scale. Of course rather than show himself he had Tony as his toy king ruling the world by his whims. Vision (who is immune to Purple Man) wakes in the basement of Avengers Mansion and has to figure a way to fight off the other Avengers wiling freeing them of purple man's control. Damn good episode.
There is a stockbroker on trial in NY right now for killing his wife and trying to sell his daughter to Mexicans because his wife cut him out of her will.
Money makes New Yorkers do crazy shit.
That's a BS excuse, you always have choice, he didn't have to have anyone kill themselves or ever hurt themselves, but he did, quite often, and didn't care at all. And was cleaver enough to hide behind the fact that he never actually touches his victims, just his waifus.
Nobody in the MCU has good parents.
Stark was raised by an Drunk Womanizing Workaholic
BW Soviet Assasssins
Thor and Loki had Odin
Star Lord had Cancer Mom and Yondu
Shitty parents all around.
I wouldn't be surprised if Fist gets pushed back again. JJ is probably getting a second season after this reception. Hopefully they start making 3 series a year instead of just 2.
No, but you can chose to not have that jerk at the paper kiosk throw his hot coffee in his face, or have Hope kill her parents, or have Ruben mutilate himself, ect. You see where I am going with this
Keep in mind he's also a man who wants to stay hidden, doesn't like being recorded, that kind of thing. Getting ambitious with his power means putting himself out there, and why do that when he can easily live as comfortable as he wants.
I don't fully agree with this, I believe that all people have the option to rise above their upbringing rather than be defined by it. Kilgrave didn't want to grow up, why be an adult with responsibilities why he can just be a big spoiled child all his life? And with his power that was a very real possibility that he actively pursued.
That being said, I really liked the scenes where Jess makes him
do the hero bit, hives a glimpse of what if, but you see him quickly turn back to what he's comfy with and act like a snobbish child. He could have just as easily grown up and used his childhood trauma to fuel a need to do good had it been a diffrent story.
if he really just wanted to live well he wouldn't have bothered leaving a trail of broken people behind him.
evil wizard rule 1# don't leave the hero or his kids alive because then they'll just come back for revenge in 20 years with some mystic sword bullshit.
>she didn't deserve what happened at all.
You're confusing her with Ruben. She was incestuous, controlling, and manipulative. Ruben "fell in love" with Jess at first sight because he saw her as a way to get away from Robyn, someone who actually stood up to her and didn't let her walk all over her.
AKA Robyn a shit, Ruben a best.
>Nah, his parents saved his life
It's not their right to play god
That's one of the things the show excelled at showing how similar some heroes and villains are and it's all a matter of choice
Was that Nuke? Are we sure about that? Also, he just said that he wanted back into the program, I don't think he told any of his boys about Kilgrave.
I still wish they would have tied Kilgrave into the murder that Karen was in in epsode 1 of Daredevil. I was so fucking sure that that's what happened, really dissapointed to see that I was wrong.
>Was that Nuke? Are we sure about that?
The actor confirmed it. They just gave him a different background since they can't use Weapon Plus and probably budget, too. Also the pills were red, white, and blue, an obvious nod to the flag tat.
The ass looked pretty damn good in jeans, and it wasn't really the ass, it was the fact that she was the first person to every get away from him. Ya know, the one that got away.
Not going to lie, at times, I was feeling sorry for Kilgrave, and then he reminds me just how fucking monstrous he really is. I had a great time watching this show.
Yeah, the red white and blue pills did strike me, but I only remember Nuke from a brief run in Thunderbolts and I can't remember if he used pills or not. I like how he just did a 180 after
his boy were blown upand went fucking bat shit crazy.
He was a guy on the edge. At first he seems just kind of goofy, but his remorse for
nearly killing Patsysends him into a protective streak a mile wide that keeps getting worse as time goes on. Eventually he gets wounded to the point of near death after Killgrave IEDs himwhich sends him back to the organization he used to serve under. He takes the pills and that pushes him entirely over the edge. He becomes psychotic and pragmatic as fuck, going so far as to kill people that got in his way and trying to kill Jessica because he thought she didn't have it in her to kill the Purple Man.
That wouldn't stop him from escaping or controlling other people.
I mean it's annoying that blocking out his commands was never addressed until the end, but headphones existing didn't make their initial "sedate and capture" plan make less sense. I'm okay with it.
I'm confused as to why they needed a very specific anaesthetic drug.
ANY drug that can knock people out would have done the job.
Don't say "it cancels his powers", because that doesn't mean shit when he's unconcios and can't speak, and even if his powers are "canceled" the orders he already gave will still be carried out
Kilgrave's power, while a verbal component was often used, it's not sound based, I'm sure that, given time he would have leaned how to issue commands without his words. While you are correct that just knocking him out would usually work, the doc did say that there was a diffrence to being asleep or knocked out and the drug that was used because it shuts off certain brain functions. Remember, Jess did say that he sleeps, Implyng his power continues to work while in a rem state.
>given time he would have leaned how to issue commands without his words.
Even if that were true, he would still need to be concious to use his powers, so knocking him out with any drug would still be just as effective
Anyone else think Simpson looked a lot like captain America and even dressed very similar? I'm wondering if this was done as a way of showing how a soldier given powers could do it the right way (cap) or do it the wrong way (nuke).
Well yeah, that's the point. Nuke is suposed to be a dark reflection of Captain America, Weapon Plus done on the wrong person
Even during his first apearance in Daredevil Nuke was a dark reflection of Cap. Sending Nuke to Hell's Kitchen actually caused Cap to find answers from the military, and get the general in charge of the program fired, which is one of the things that caused Kingpin's steady downfall
>Jessica Jones was shit whenever based Killgrave wasn't on camera
>The fact it was shit was due to a boring go nowhere 'plot', crappy side characters and no interesting character growth
>No real tie in to Daredevil
>Media will just say "Welp, more proof you can't have a female lead!"
At least Daredevil was good. Maybe Luke Cage will be good, but lets face it, it won't be.
>Popsicle vendor with the Spiderman popsicles
>murdertomb was surrounded 24/7 with victims and potential victims
>jessica knew he could just tell a bunch of innocents to protect him, either in advance or in response to a missed shot and they could get in the way or be hurt
>thought that giving him this specific drug would knock out his powers and "free" the past/potential victims
Not making excuses for the series; this is how I saw the scene initially. Now that I think of it though I'm not sure if this was actually implied or something I assumed.
I think it's just something you assumed.
People don't need to be close to Killgrave for his compulsions to work, meaning that making Killgrave powerless would have no effect on people close to him either, and Jessica knows this.
>Jessica and Luke get help from someone else in the neighborhood
yfw you thought it was gonna be Daredevil
I mean, I liked seeing night nurse and all, but I was hoping for Daredevil, but, thinking about it it would have been a bad idea ro have Matt go up against Kilgrave wouldn't it? If Kilgrave's powers need a verbal component then Matt's hyper sense would become a handicap, right?
it means some fag is being paid to keep up interest in this show so they post thread after thread, more than likely promotion with 4chan directly, you know let us make generals after general and don't let the mods delete them even though ctrl+f jessica results in 9 different fucking threads
So I've been catching up - love this show, but it hits a really weird spot towards the end
All the stuff in the last couple of episodes I feel like should have happened way earlier on
Also the Nuke stuff is really cool and unexpected, but doesn't jive really well? Again, should have come to a head earlier in the series.
They need a Luke Cage that actually looks like he works out.
I shouldn't have better abs than Luke Cage. They couldn't find a buff black actor/ He couldn't do what all the movie starts do when they get a role and do some sit ups
>Media will just say "Welp, more proof you can't have a female lead!"
but critics and people in general are loving this show?
why do you think your negative opinion is gonna more common than any other? i may not like adele but i can tell that her new album is going to be widely liked.
Does anyone else think the deaths are just shock value in this show? I mean, I like the characters that got killed, but it feels like I had a bigger reaction to them dying than the characters in the show. In fact,
Hope's death seemed to be ineffective as Jessica is still the same pre and post her death.
Literally the worst. I feel bad for ex-drug addict guy, he finally gets his shit together and the writers railroad him into a relationship with a crazy bitch who needs mental treatment.
I enjoyed the
Jessica teaching Kilgrave about heroismbut I knew that the story wasn't set up for that and Jessica isn't really suited for that since she isn't a do-gooder like Malcolm or Claire. It would have been interesting to me if JJ had Matt's kind of personality/morals but that would have been a completely different story. Overall, I liked the series although the final episode was a little lackluster.
Luke says his name isn't on the paperwork of the bar, but in the 2nd episode the police went to interrogate him, so clearlly they do know he works there, so they would still see him as a suspect
She should've been controlled again in the end, so we could have a scene like in ALIAs with her seeing a kid playing in a park
They could put her older self instead of Jean there, so she could snap out of it
Also, they really could've made him purple in the end :c
>I'm only through episode 11, but Simpson's entire character arc has been him trying and failing to be John McClain. He's almost a pure deconstruction of the masculine ideal of the man of will and how toxic it is. Every time he tries to step in to protect a woman (usually because she's a woman), he just gets in the way and fucks things up even worse. Even when it gets him and his partners blown up, he still doesn't get the message. He just goes even further off the "gotta be more dudely" cliff.
>I believe he exclusively refers to other super black ops team guys as "my boys" as well. He's like pure patriarchy. Becoming more and more unhinged as Jessica and Patsy subvert his power and authority.
that's the thing about kilgrave.
He wasn't evil per se. He wasn't trying to do bad things. He's a real monster.
Being evil would imply that he had some form of morality and chose the wrong one. Wanting to hurt people would mean taht he cares about to want to make them suffer. But to him everyone else was just toys to have fun with and break when he's bored. Jessica was the most interesting toy he had.
he did not have grand goals or terrifying objectives. He just was. And what he was was monstrous.
I thought you couldn't possibly do anything as boring and superfluous as Ben Urich's entire muh sick wife storyline in DD yet JJ somehow managed to outdo it with the lesbian subplot shit in mere handful of episodes.
>The fact that “Give me a smile” is portrayed as a vile, sadistic command is like, really fucking nice
>because women get told that every fucking day and it’s not ok and like
>idk it was really, really powerful
It just never goes anywhere, either. Like, what was the point of that whole fucking subplot? I liked the evil or amoral lesbian lawyer thing but it could've easily been cut out without removing anything important.
>I particularly like the fact that Jessica has an aggressive power (super strength) while Luke has a defensive one (the show is playing up his unbreakable skin more than his own considerable strength). Not only does that inversion make them a perfect match, it also nicely subverts the stereotype of male aggression and female passivity.
Is all connected to the main theme of the season "control".
Even when Trinity is a powerful lawyer when it comes to relationships the secretary and the doctor had all the power over her.
>Jessica Jones is in a poly relationship.
>She spends equal time with her wife, Trish Walker, and her boyfriend Luke Cage.
>Surprise,they now get to meet.
>Can you just imagine Luke and Trish gossiping and bonding over funny stories of Jess?
>mfw it needed two superpowered women to beat the Nuke
>mfw he was holding himself against his waifu
NUKE IS THE DUDE
>I just really appreciate that they made jessica wear the same clothes over and over. it’s very realistic to me because usually female characters are dressed in different clothes in different scenes that are never seen again. Jessica’s continuity is much appreciated. Like I love all sorts of characters. I think they are so important.
>But Jessica is a female character that’s hard to come by when women are supposed to be on point in every scene and good role models in every form of media. She’s not glamorized. She’s messy and complicated and damaged with no automatic fix. To me her existence is that much more powerful because female characters aren’t really allowed to get this messy.
>Jessica is very very human.
Really? What was it about the several pointless scenes where you never got more than a superficial notion that Jeri was a) gay and b) more than a bit of an asshole that made it so interesting for you? What was exactly engaging about having the same scenes get repeated with minimal variations and going on and on about the divorce?
>Jessica is still the same pre and post her death.
pre Jesscia was an asshole who was only trying to stop kilgrave in order to save hope, because she saw herself in hope and really only wanted to find redemption for herself.
Post she admits to herself that she's an asshole and decides to stop kilgrave in order to prevent him from hurting other people.
jess and simpson reflected each other.
both come from a ark past, both trying to fix their life, both trying to do the right thing but don't really know how. Both walking a line between good person and out of whack maniac.
He chose for the second when he took the pills.
The divorce and Jes having to make the cotor sign the papers and almost losing it is part of that line.
That's what it's there for. And to force teh lawyer to working the kilgrave case I guess.
>One of the most brilliant underpinnings of "Marvel's Jessica Jones" comes down to one word: "Smile." It's a word loaded with meaning for the women of the world, just trying to get from one place to the next, who hear it shouted by catcallers as they walk down the street.
What a disappointing ending. NOBODY was buying that Jones was under his control.
The show started stronger than it finished. The problem was that Kilgrave was 85% of the plot. Like all the dialogue was about what he could do, or the effects of what he's done, that it starts to become draining, especially after 13 hours. And for all that buildup for such a weak climax...yeah, the show is a B-
There are some parts that are good, but I wouldn't care to watch a second season.
Daredevil had entire episodes dedicated to trying to make Fisk into an actual person first and a villain second. With little to no actual Daredevil present.
Daredevil had a network of mob bosses vying for power. People weaved in and out, fucking up plans of one person or another, redirecting the plot. Motherfuckers gettin' their heads smashed, wives getting poisoned, giving other characters the opportunity to, for example, murder Fisk's right hand.
JJ is thirteen hours of "I'll get you next time, you rascally, rapey rabbit!"
>Gao, Vlad, and Nobu all had their own goals and interactions with Matt and broke things up.
Apart from the Russians they barely got touched upon, Gao being the most egregious example.
I realized by the end the only characters I gave a shit about were
Jessica and blond Jessica bored me, I didn't care about afroman, the incest twins were obnoxious, lesbians were a worthless side plot and really who cared about Hope
you don't remember the part where the entire plot shifted because of Leland's actions?
Or how Matt's fight with Nobu convinced him to try and get the suit made?
Or the Russians being important to Fisk centralizing his power?
yeah, that's the thing that bothered me the most. At times it seemed like her superpower was being as strong as a well trained man.
And also that bullet damage her as much as any normal human. But that's a pet peeve of mine. People with physical superpowers should at the very least be more resistant and take less damage from weapons, including bullets. Otherwise you could make them as strong as the hulk, they can still only get in brawls because any goon with a gun can kill them as easily as any other person.
You can have suspense without disregarding the fact that she has superpowers. If she still takes damage, just less than normal people then you still have suspense because she can still be damaged and killed by people with normal weapons, but at the same time you can show how having powers means he can get into shit that other people wouldn't survive and still come out alive, although a bit hurt.
Wait, I'm confused.
The moment the cheating wife told Jessica that she told her husband about the affair and him hiring Jessica, only that the husband says he never hired her, I thought Killgrave had orchestrated it to get Jessica and Luke to meet.
But nothing ever came of it, and Killgrave was unaware of Luke, so who hired Jessica?
I actually really liked Patricia.
Actually, from the way they dropped interest in the character after her death, they really didn't. Look how fast people got over her death. Jessica was barely even affected by it.
They still had things like Foggy and Karren dates and even what Fisk is doing with his girlfriends and stuff to break up things. JJ was dead focused on Kilgrave's hunt for way too much of the shows run time. The subplots were very minimal, and that' draining for 13 hours.