Jessica Jones Live talkback thread #5

>Jessica molests an innocent man
What a cunt.

Nuke did nothing wrong.

Anyone got any examples of people bitching about kilgrave?

>>77619337
Unconscious, I mean.

>>77619337
What?

>>77619343
He didn't all series long, Jessica is like I'm not going to kill Killgrave it would be wrong and Nuke says no we need to do it before he hurts more people. And then at the end she listens to him, but Nuke is bad because his name isn't Jessica Jones.

>>77619337
???

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>Purple Man isn't purple, but in every scene of him there is an object with the purple color.

>>77619343
> Girlfriend punches him in the face
> doesn't beat a bitch
Whatever you say.

>>77619383
No nuke is bad because he shot a guy in the face then burned the body. He was two something from retirement.

Kilgrave did nothing wrong.

>tfw Nuke and the Boys probably wont be in Daredevil season 2
>tfw we will have to wait till JJ season 2.

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>>77619343

Simpson was the hero New York City deserves, but not the one it needed right now. So Jessica will throw him into a fridge repeatedly until unconscious. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a coked up guardian. A justifiably paranoid protector. A red, white, and blue knight.

>>77619489
he just wanted to be with his waifu

>>77619473
>old cop just before retirement getting into a dangerous case
Getting shot is the law of nature in this case, he basically killed himself.

And fuck me, this goddamn captcha.
Someone should cut all the scenes of Jessica recalling the street names over and over toghether and set the filename to "Jessica trying to solve the captcha."

>>77619337
He was asking for it, laying there all sexy and shit, with his big tit sucking lips.

>>77619473
He kept saying he was 2 something from retirement. That's the oldest line i the book, he basically was asking to die. Nuke's pills were a bit confusing though.

>>77619473

I don't hold that against him, Nuke was just fulfilling the narrative necessity of the old cop who was about to retire dying while on his last big case. He did it so someone else wouldn't have to.

>>77619383
Jessica didn't want to kill him because she needed him to get Hope out of prison.

Nuke was crazy before he even took his medicine

>>77619408
I was hoping that he would just start sending people near Jessica dressed up in snazzy purple suits just to fuck with her, like when she saw that guy in the purple before getting hit by the car

>>77619626
>Getting shot is the law of nature in this case, he basically killed himself.
this, he was asking for it. The minute he mentioned his retirement I knew he was going to die

I'm on ep 8 and Kilgrave is so fucking good, damn.

>>77619631
>American flag
>confusing
YOU GODDAMN COMMIE

>>77619626
>>77619631
>>77619637
Like shit, why don't they teach that in cop school?

>>77619642
>Nuke was crazy
He was a little over eager to take down a powered criminal who commanded him to kill a woman and then himself, yes.

>>77619710
The guy was ready to blow up a house without even checking if there were other people in the house. After seeing people go in and out of the house all day

>>77619710

He didn't see the logic that everyone else was using and was willing to let more people suffer for his own cause.

Nobody in the cast actually wanted Kilgrave alive; they just wanted him dead the right way.

>>77619807
He checked, he come for Jessica and whould wait for the other people to take out the thrash as he said.

>>77619807
As Jessica said, less people than Killgrave would kill. And when Jessica confronted him with that he said he would time it for when they went to take out the trash

>>77619817
What logic? The only logic and people he whould cause suffering was Hope.
At the end Hope and a shitton of other people got fucked, instead of just Hope.

>>77619841
>>77619842
Unless the house was in some odd place where they throw their trash away in a dumpster a block away instead of around the side of the house, then they wouldn't have been safe from being a foot away from an exploding house.

Anyone can come up with an explanation as to why the old lady brought Nuke the bomb while Kilgrave was drugged?

just finished episode 3, really like it so far. at what point does it inevitably sag?

>>77619977
she was still under order?

>that snap
Hot damn.

>>77619977
He ordered her to do it before he was drugged.

>>77620022
No, Kilgrave was drugged.
That's the whole point of getting him drugged, he loses control over people.

So why isn't Stan the Man making cameos in these?

>>77619252
you should stop making threads nobody likes this show

>>77620073
Keep watching

>>77620104
I finished the show twice.

>>77620090
the 4 autosaged threads say otherwise

>>77620119
Then you need to watch a third time since you clearly weren't paying attention

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>>77620090

>>77620073
If that was true, then she wouldent have blown herself up

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>>77620090

>>77620017
Around 7-10 you're just given so many 'close to ending' situations that you're kind of annoyed, then it picks back up again.

>>77620149
Hmmmm, guess Kilgrave just assumed he would lose control.

>>77620081
That's only written into movie contracts, I believe.

>>77620182
Probably, it's not like he was in that situation before. Although, he refused to be put under during the kidney surgery but I guess that could have been because of the lenght of it? If time ran out while the doctor was still inside of him, that would have been pretty bad

Why is everyone calling him Nuke? I've been off /co/ a while

>>77620244
Because that's who he is in the comics

>>77620244
Nuke? The one with the boys?

>>77620224
>refused to be put under during
That's what I'm talking about.
He refused because he didn't know what would happen and didn't want to take the chances.
So once Jessica learns about it she thinks the anesthesia does indeed stops his control, with the bomb lady later on we see that's it's not tre.

>>77620182

Its called a contingency plan
Standard practice in any sort of strategic conflict.

Come on, guys.
You're not this fucking stupid, right?

>>77620310

It at the very least prevents him from giving orders, yeah?

>>77619343
I was kind of texting when Patsy took the pill. Simpson ded?

>>77620310
Jesus christ, he was put under so he couldn't control Jessica or anybody around her until he was in the sealed room. If you had watched the show, you'd know his powers are a virus that he "infects" others with and then they do what he says for the 12 hours.

Stop being a fucking moron and think for once in your life.

>>77620135
>the 4 autosaged threads say otherwise

The last 6 Grayson threads autosaged even without an issue out

4 autosages after nearly 2 days and 13 episodes is pretty bad desu, a single Flash episode could do 4 autosages and even AoS gets 3 sometimes

>>77620345
Nah. Was taken away by the same doctor that gave him the pills.
Did you miss the fight scene? Only one I liked in the show.

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>>77620244
pic related is him in the comics
>>77620345
No, he got taken away by goverment people when the apartment was empty

>>77620363
People like the show, get over it.

>>77620354
You're the one that hasn't watched the show.

You'd think the US government would have a superhuman division that Jessica could have called about Killgrave

>>77620341
Yea, but mind as well used anything else that would tranquilize him.
Jessica wouldn't have to go through all the trouble getting the specific drug.

>>77620363
maybe its because all episodes are out and there is very little to discuss since everything that had to happen alredy did.

>>77620400
lol ok son

I understand if you're too poor to pay for Netflix.

>>77620402

Killgrave is in the grand scheme of things a small time asshole scheming free hotel rooms, food and sex.

Why did the cop go to arrest Jessica for beating up Killgrave by himself?
He knows Jessica is super, why didn't he bring backup?

>>77620488
There was no one else so close to retirement to be killed later on.

>>77620488
Because 2 weeks away from retirement.

>>77619252
CLOAK AND DAGGER WHEN!?

>>77620488
Because he was going to retire

>>77619598
read that as coked up asgardian

>>77620546
When hell freezes over

>>77620590
I'd watch it

>>77620354
I mean you're both kind of right, not sure why you're mad.

What people seem to be missing is that once you're given an order you're still compelled to do it until either you do it, the 12 hours is through, or you find a loophole (put a bullet in your head). None of which happened with the neighbor.

>>77620488
Did we ever find out who sent that text? Trinity?

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>>77619383
>Jessica is like I'm not going to kill Killgrave
Because she wanted to help his old victims first

Also excuse me captchs what are you doing?

>>77620697
Jessica sent it to get him there.

Hogarth just cut the wire

>>77620697

Jessica sent it herself to get him to show up. She said so pretty clearly.

>>77620649
>you're given an order you're still compelled to do it until...
And they were thinking that that wouldn't be the case if he's put under.
That's why Kilgrave went through the OP without anesthesia and hired body guards.

>>77619383
No, Nuke is wrong because he was a crazy person, at the end of the day Hope even killed herself to show Nuke was right. Jessica was just projecting herself onto Hope, so saving her meant vicariously saving herself. What she was doing wasn't a bad thing, it was just irrational, but most people aren't autistic edge lords like yourself so they understand that this was a moral dilemma not a chance to pronounce how badass you are.

>Show off how their strong female character has been training to fight
>Expect the worst
>She gets her shit wrecked in every fight she's in until she gets high on supersteroids.

Well color me pleasantly surprised.

>>77620791
Maybe he didn't want to put under anesthesia because he was afraid that he would sleep over the 12 hours mark, giving chance for Dr Pajeet to wake up inside.


Same thing why he hired body guards, if somehow he is put to sleep over the 12 hours they would still feel compelled to save him.

that's my theory at least, because the bomb lady shows that the effect lasted even if he was ko'd

>>77620851
If Nuke's philosophy was right from the beginning she wouldn't have bothered saving his bitchass from jumping off the building and would have gone after Kilgrave right off the bat.

>>77620938
Jessica talked about it with the professor.
>he doesn't lose control when he sleeps
>anesthesia is different

>>77620611
They were meant to have a show on ABC family back in the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqs-4I5ec-U&t=1m34s

>>77620851
>Hope even killed herself to show Nuke was right
And Trish explained to Jessica that that wasnt what Hope tried to teach her

>>77620791
True, but I mean there's a couple of reasons for hiring a security detail that you're not controlling.
If you're missing for over 12 hours since you gave them the order they're going to stop looking for you. Same thought for being under for a surgery.

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Hellcat when?

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>>77621088
Nuke when

>>77621088
all she needs is some Daredevil training and we got our fifth Defender,

>>77620699
>you and spongebob showing support for paris
awwww, how fuckin sweet.

>>77621057
The surgery took 10 hours, close enough I guess.
Either way, Jessica wouldn't have tried to get the specific drug the professor told her about if she just wanted Kilgrave out cold.

Night Nurse actually offered to call Daredevil.

Man, I'm really hyped for the Defenders.

>>77620952
Nuke being right or wrong has no bearing on another character's philosophy. Dragging Nuke into the building from the ledge and using his body as a bludgeon to beat Kilgrave to death may very well have been the course of action that would have saved the most lives, but that doesn't mean that Jessica thought it was. Plus Jessica didn't know she was immune to Kilgrave's powers at that point.

>>77621201
I knew it wasn't going to happen but when she said it I got excited anyway.

>>77620859
Why couldn't she have just taken the blue that Nuke showed her she needed to take? Am I misremembering that he held up the bottle of blue pills to be like "you need these"?

>>77621108
She was learning Krav Maga, not that it helped, ever.

>>77621227
Then he threw them out the window.

>>77621227
He threw them out the window so she wouldnt take the reds

>>77621227

He tossed them out the window

>>77621227
He threw the bottle out the window to prevent that exact scenario and dissuade Trish from taking the red (explaining that he wouldn't need a blue for another ten hours, plenty of time to go find them in the street below. Probably.)

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Where's Frank?

>>77621227
>Am I misremembering that he held up the bottle of blue pills to be like "you need these"?
He then threw them out of the window saying "now that you can't get the blues ones you will killyourself by taking the red one, so don't."

>>77621231
that's why you get for learning a meme martial art.

>>77621227
He threw the bottle through the window. I liked that part because it wasn't just out an open window but through a closed window and you can even see the hole that it left behind.

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>yfw Punisher/Nuke face-off in Defenders

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>>77621231
>mon visage quand Krav Maga keks BTFO

>>77621292
Who's more Frank?

What do you think Luke's "costume" will be, assuming he has one? I'm hoping for just his standard yellow shirt, pants, maybe a CAGE beltbuckle, it's realistic enough for them to not dismiss it like the Jewel costume, but accurate to the source

>>77621231
I'm glad it didn't.
I hate when characters go through a few days of traning and then all of a sudden can beat up highly trained professionals.

>>77621335
>I hate when characters go through a few days of traning

It was implied that she had been training for some time, probably starting at a point between Jessica moving out and the series starting.

>>77621327
Frank obviously? What the fuck? You a casual or something?

>No one thought of headphones until the last episode
>"Let's just poke the bear some more!" Ever single interaction with Killgrave before ep 13.
>No mention of Inhumans, Daredevil, anything. Apparently the battle of New York is all that matters to the general population (pretty much like 9/11). Africa is where again?
>"I literally do not understand the what rape means." OMG MATTRESS GIRL WAS RIGHT! THIS IS WHAT MEN BELIEVE!
Pic related.

This and DD both have terrible pacing problems. They defuse the tension way too early and then spend the middle of the show trying to set up for a boring anti-climax where Hero punches Villain in a moonlit urban environment.

Kevin wasn't nearly as threatening or purple as he should have been. Hope was beyond annoying after the first episode or two. Nuke wasn't enough. I hate Ritter.


>Hogarth was great
>Trish was great
>Malcolm was great
>Luke Cage was great but needs more edge
>6/10

>>77621362
No it wasn't.
She starts the training and installs the security system after Jessica tells her about Kilgrave returning.

>>77621362
Which was 6 months at the start of the series.

>>77621401
As far as I remember, Inhumans aren't public information. Just SHIELD and the government knows of them.

Daredevil isn't exactly a public figure either. But maybe a newspaper article or something mentioning him would've been cool.

Not being allowed to say fuck definitely hurt the show. The line "I told a man to go screw himself" didn't have nearly as much of an impact as it would have otherwise.

I'm only on episode 3, but
>Luke says "Sweet Christmas" after sex.
Show of the year.

>>77621481
I preferred screwed there. Would he have tried to actually screw screws into himself or fuck himself or fuck himself with screws?

>>77621481
Nah. If told to go fuck himself he'd just have started mastubating. Saying screw is way better.

>>77621406
She's training in episode 2 shortly after learning about Kilgrave, but you don't spar violently enough to draw blood and leave bruises only a day or two after starting.

>>77621506
Yeah, it's much more insidious.

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>>77621478
>Daredevil isn't exactly a public figure either.

Nigger

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What would you do if you suddenly woke up and found that you had Kilgrave's powers?

Even if you don't start off thinking of ways to abuse them, being completely open and honest with yourself, do you think you would ever be tempted to do so? How many little or big problems in your life could be effortlessly and painlessly solved if people just listened to and did exactly what you tell them to do?

>>77621548

I would fucking RUN THIS SHIT

like, everything

government, United Nations, the banks, corporations, the military, everything

I would run this shit

>>77621406
Nevermind, I'm wrong.
Trish says she started once Jessica left.

>>77621546
I meant in that he doesn't stroll or jump around the city in the middle of the day for the most part. Or have a phone number where he's easily reached.

>>77621548
Instantly doing horrible shit. Being discreet about it though

>>77621401
>>No mention of Inhumans, Daredevil, anything.

IGH is Inhuman Growth Hormone

Claire mentions Daredevil directly

You suck, because you didn't even pay attention but then you want to come here and cry about shit

>>77621548
I don't know. People shouldn't listen to me sometimes, and I need them to keep me in check when I'm too stubborn to accept being denied or just plan wrong. After a while I'd probably stop giving a fuck and go the Kilgrave route though.

>>77621548
I would just give myself a life of leisure, no reason to make waves.

>>77621571
You'd be killed.
Really, Kilgrave could have been shot from a distance easily so many times.

>>77621548
I kind of fear that I would let myself get out of hand. I would probably start small, buying a couple of things for free, getting easy money every now and then, and then build and build to the point where I steal literally everything and have all of the money and luxury in the world.

>>77621548
I'd make me a easy life.
I wouldn't make people do anything horrible though.

>>77621548
I would get myself a fancy degree, then is all just hookers and coke.

>>77621548
I'm of the opinion that there is no way you could use those powers for good. There is nothing noble about getting inside people's heads and making them do things they don't want to do.

>>77619252
>still no cameo from one of the big characters
Just 1 episode with Cap would be fine by me

>>77621726
Hostage negotiation.

Doctor Who did nothing wrong.

>>77621726
Good and noble are not the same thing.

>>77621548
Umm enjoy myself way too much but use condoms and maybe wear a mask

Relax, try to learn how yo shut it off and on so i can still enoy real life

>>77621737
I would personally settle with Coulson or Ward.

>>77621548
Get a good ass job doing nothing, get a cushy place to live, lower bills to manageable levels.
Not sure there's much else to do with it once you have the money and lifestyle you want-- might try to fuck a celebrity or two but mostly I'd just chill.

>>77621774
Coulson could visit them during the Defenders.

>>77621481
I could have sworn someone said Fuck in the first 7 episodes, but I can't remember who or when, maybe they were only allowed one and they blew it early?

>>77621737
>Everything must have the Avengers in it

I found the /tv/ casual

>>77619343
>>77619383
they were both wrong and also right.
They both had a messed up pas and were trying to do the right thing and set their mistakes even but didn't know the right way.
Jess fixated on saving Hope(totally subtle name there) because she saw her younger self in her. To the point where she would risk the lives of other innocent people, because she projected all her sense of failure and success on saving hope or not. And she did not want help from others because it wasn't about the innocent girl at all, but herself.
Sam wanted to atone for bad things he did in the past by helping people. And that is why he would go along with what Trish and Jess said even though he disagreed. He was seeking redemption, just like Jess.
Until their respective crashing points. When his buddies died he lost it, realized he could not rely on anyone else, he had to take things into his own hands and eliminate all those who got in his way. He stopped trying to be a better person and went back to the pills.

When Hope died Jess could have crashed and lost it. Instead she realized she had been a self centered cunt and that she had to face reality instead of HOPE for a future redemption for herself.That's when she became a hero, who does what is right for others, rather than what makes her feel better about herself.
She had to lose hope to being hope to others. It's like pottery.

>can't say "fuck"
>says "rape" every chance they get

wow ok!

>>77621726

>There is nothing noble about getting inside people's heads and making them do things they don't want to do.

Sure, but getting a crazy person with a gun to not kill anyone (including themselves) and then turn themselves in, even if you use invasive means, seems like a net positive to me. The trick would be not going all Totalitarian Big Brother and trying to thought police people for even just saying or doing things you personally think are bad, rather than things that are objectively bad or actually illegal.

>too stupid to realize Jerri is playing her
>openly insults Kilgrave on radio
>gets her ass kicked all the time
>shoots the glass of Kilgrave's prison and sets him free
>takes the pill even though Nuke tells her it will kill her
>drops the headphones and doesn't put them back on again
Why do people like Trish again?

>>77621956
It would help the feeling of it being a shared universe. Whether or not it would fit the tone of the series is another matter.

>>77621977
Yeah, censorship laws here make no sense.

>>77621974
>his buddies
you mean THE BOYS

>>77622005
>the feeling of it being a shared universe.


There's plenty of that, but you overlooked all of it because it wasn't a Robert Downey Jr. cameo

>>77622000
>>shoots the glass of Kilgrave's prison and sets him free
Completely agreed, but Jessica was already going in and would have set him free regardless

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>>77622000
Muh Hellcat

>>77622000
To be fair if she'd had slightly better aim Kilgrave would've died there in that cell.

>>77621956
Not what im saying
Im saying having Cap and Matt team up for an episode to take down a street level bad guy would be cool

>>77622032
Calling them the green guy is fucking stupid, not that itd matter becauze that not what i mean

>>77622000
>Why do people like Trish again?

she's pretty and she had nice legs

>>77622071

MCU Cap would have better things to do at the moment than taking down street thugs

he's bigger than all that shit

>>77622032
There were subtle nods, occasional mentions of character and events, and night nurse. The majority of the 'shared universe' content was akin to mentioning Gotham in Superman Returns, yeah it's there but it's not substantial enough to truly make it feel like a shared universe, especially for an area as small as the island of Manhattan.

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>just finished
>mfw

Overral thought is that the show is too grim. I know that sounds like weak criticism, but the main reason that I couldn't binge through all of it in a day like I did Daredevil was that I needed a break from all that suffering, which doesn't help the ending. When Kilgrave was necksnapped by Jessica of Murder, it didn't feel like a victory, like Matt beating Fisk, it felt more like finally getting rid of something terrible after it teared you down, you're weak, frail and tired, and you got it done, but you ain't smiling.
Which is great and fits fucking perfectly the whole noir thing they're doing, since no noir story ends on a complete happy ending. But it still leaves you kinda unsatisfied and just sad. I guess I'm just not made to enjoy noir stories, but I felt it needed a little more sweet on all that bitter.
Maybe it needed some more light characters, or that their lighter characters where actually lighter and not just further ways for SUFFERING. I dunno.

And then there's smaller issues, some pacing problems, some ''unfortunate events'' that just feel like they're there to drag the story on, and some tonal issues, etc...

But still, like Daredevil it's better than most things Marvel Studios has put out, and unlike most of it's movies, it goes all the way to actually have a different genre, it's not just ''superhero movie + x genre coat of paint '', hell, it's almost uncapeshit. Acting is great, directing is inspired, yadda yadda competent people made this.

8/10, it's not Daredevil, put it's pretty good.

this show is so catastrophically stupid it's painful. i can't believe they fucked up the Alias material THIS bad.

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>>77621548
Well, I would start by having random people in the mall give me money. Then once I fix my resume up i'll apply for a job near by and get insta-hired. I'll finally leave my room and go to a party, and get laid. I would use my new powers to make my life more comfortable, but I won't go overboard

I wonder if Kilgrave would work on the Hulk or

>>77622120
really only like the first opening scene is anything like Alias

after the first couple of episodes it drops the P.I. aspect entirely

Anyone set up a ''goddamnit'' counter yet? I swear that shit goes to triple digits.

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>>77621548
I tell myself that I'd use my powers for good or at least attempt to do noble things with them, but Kilgrave's particular powers are almost a conduit for abuse and evil. Reaching into people's heads and just twisting their minds around, making what you want exactly what they want regardless of any natural instinct or judgment. I think the only answer is to, essentially, become a Jedi. Be a hermit, live away from people, but close enough that you can still stay connected with the world and with your basic needs and comforts taken care of. Only involve yourself if absolutely necessary and consider carefully that your actions will leave a mark not just on the people you touch, but yourself. Your powers are de facto abusive, which is a slippery slope towards the Dark Side, but with patience and wisdom, you might learn the difference between using them for yourself and using them for others.

>>77622120
The alias book was already stupid and bad

Kind of wish that Jessica had found those kids in the closet. They wouldn't need to have shown the bodies, just have her follow the scent, open the door, and dry heave at the sight of it. Maybe have some flies buzzing around for good measure.

At least, I assumed he just forced those kids to stay in that closet until they died.

So does Kilgrave have to "activate" his powers or does every command he give make people do stuff regardless of whether he wants them too or not.

>>77620270
>>77620376
>Wiki him
>Nuke has an American Flag tattooed on his face

They better fucking make that happen.

Who am i kidding, they won't.

>>77622185
At that point in the story, his shit wears off after 10-12 hours, the kids were fine.

>>77622206
It works regardless.

>>77622206
Every command, he mentions it at some point.

>>77622112
I honestly feel the same way. Kilgrave's death was so unbelievably unsatisfying. I'm seriously hoping they bring him back somehow.
>>77622120
I've read Alias and honestly the show was better in more ways than it was worse.
>>77622206
He can't turn it off, so if he tells someone to do something even if he doesn't mean it they will do it.

>>77622185
I dont think he did anything tragic at worst had sex with the mom, or the daughter

I feel bad for the guy who had to stand at the fence forever, mostly because they showcased what happened with him

>>77622236
>>77622243
So there's no way this dude was never not going to be evil

>>77622207
>having to wiki Nuke
>didn't read Miller's Daredevil

Jesus, when will /co/ stop being so casual?

>>77622261
He got the powers when he was 10.
So basically yes.

>>77622178

Well, it's not really reaching into people's heads. It's not direct mind control or even mind reading (Which I honestly find to be more invasive in many respects, fuck you Jean.), it's a virus that renders the infected completely susceptible to his suggestions. You would need to be extremely careful about what you say around people. Kilgrave accidentally telling a guy to "go screw himself" reminded me of the identical incident in the Worm web serial, where a woman with a hypnotic voice told a guy to do the same thing (without intending to manipulate him) which resulted in him killing himself trying to carry out the order.

So, just never speak thoughtlessly and try not to use common turns of phrase that could be taken literally, with horrifying results.

>>77622279
>he /ss/'d during his pubirty years

>>77622261
He would have to be completely aware of what he says at all times and could never use sarcasm. He would probably kill people on accident. And considering he got his powers at 10 and his parents ditched him, yeah.

>>77622185
Maybe he liked the lamb enough to let them all live.

>>77621726
Professor X.

So. Do you think the decision to have Jessica actually be raped was better or worse than the original where she was forced to watch him rape other women and beg/wish to be raped herself?

>>77622155

they could have a dark noir slow burning detective show set in the marvel universe that only hints and gives you glimpses into what and who Kilgrave is. instead we got this fucking plodding neutered lesbian girl power show that takes 10 episodes for anything even remotely interesting to happen.

>>77622179

alias is not the worst thing and is arguably one of the stronger books Bendis has written. but the problem is that this show is almost like izombie in that the only thing it has in common is the names of the main character. the rest is completely different. (also the big difference between this and izombie is that izombie is actually good as heck)

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>>77622120
>this show is so catastrophically stupid it's painful. i can't believe they fucked up the Alias material THIS bad.

>>77622322
His powers are completely different from Kilgrave's. Kilgrave can't control his powers whatsoever.

Jessica Jones drinking game:

Drink every time she uses her super strength to break a lock/break open a locked door.

>>77622325
to be raped is more "realistic"

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>>77619252
I really want a Kilgrave sitcom special. Like, just a special of his twisted ideal relationship with Jessica as the doting 50's wife.

>Dig My Kilgrave!
>Kilgrave is watching tv. Enter Jessica, in apron and dress.
>Jessica: Honey, you have some explaining to do.
>Kilgrave: (Mugging to the audience) Oh boy.
>Jessica: Did you use your powers again?
>Kilgrave: What, me? Never!
>Audience starts to snigger
>Jessica: (Hands on hips) Then do you mind explaining why there's a bunch of boy scouts doing the worm on our front lawn?
>Audience chortles noisily
>Kilgrave: I didn't do anything, I swear. I just told them to bugger off!
>Audience roars into raucous laughter. Noise fills the entirety of the studio. Kilgrave gets pissed and tells them all to stop breathing. It is instantly quiet.
>Jessica: T-that's my Kilgrave.

>>77622325
Idk, that sounds kinda hot

>>77622325
I think having her be actually raped made more sense for the show.

Kilgrave's powers would have been a perfect chance to have all the netflix heroes eventually fight each other

>>77622325
worse, not that it's a bad thing itself. But what he did in the comics was worse

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>>77622382

>>77622357
Neither could Charles when he first got them, he learned to control them.

>>77622382
lmao

>>77622402
>would have been
>implying Kilgrave won't be revived
I want to believe.

>>77622325
As much as I hate rape as a tragic backstory tool it makes sense for him to have had sex with Jessica.
Making her just beg for it was Bendis's cop out way of not soiling one of his waifus.

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>>77622295
So you basically have to become pic related.

Words that kill.

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>>77622382

>>77622416
How could Kilgrave learn to control something that is essentially a naturally emitted hormone?

>>77622374

Yeah, but a bit less complex. Like, forcing her to beg for it like she actually wants such a horrible thing to be done to her is dehumanizing in the extreme, and then there's the twisted sense of guilt (well, he didn't ACTUALLY physically rape me, why am I so upset, it could have been so much worse, those other women had it so much worse), and so on.

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>>77619252
>5 talkback threads for something that came out all at once 39 hours ago
It's a general, you even have the edition thing going on.

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...and in the end, he truly was the purple man.

>>77622449
Well, like he was trying to do in the show, just becareful of how he speaks

>>77622459
It also made her question whether or not she actually loved him in the comics iirc. That could have been interesting to see.

>>77622482
dumb frogposter

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Cyborg flag on face Nuke when?

>thinking actually being raped is better than the mindfuck he layed on JJ in the comic

next you fags will tell me you think Whor is a great idea too

>>77622482
>you looking purple, man

>>77622402
>show ends on Kilgrave losing his powers and getting locked up
>Cottonmouth gets jailed at the end of Luke Cage
>Whoever the fuck Iron Fist fights runs away
>Defenders is him breaking Fisk, Kilgrave and Cottonmouth out of prison and forming a super-evil team to destroy Hell's Kitchen and the people that ruined them, but they all have a second motive and their distrust ends up being their downfall

Surprised it isn't gonna be like this tbhfamily

>>77622514
>that gun design
never change comic artists, you crazy, mildly retarded, bastards.

>>77622548
Steel Serpent would be pretty fucking great.

>>77622548
Thank God it isn't.

>>77620402
Yeah, she should've contacted the Strategic Hydra Intervention Enforcement and Logistics Division.

>>77622325
It would have changed the dynamic. Kilgrave wasn't trying to torture Jessica but the Purple Man was. Kilgrave did very little out of actual malice and thus could fool himself into thinking he wasn't a bad person. PM liked hurting people cause he could, so he got creative. Ironically if he didn't rape her Kilgrave would have been less sympathetic.

>>77622326
>lesbian girl power show

Trish and Jessica aren't lesbians

there's a lesbian love triangle, but it's still largely outnumbered by the heterosexual relationships in the show

Quit letting homos make you nervous

>>77622557
What's wrong with it?

Kilgrave would just end up dominating any villain team he is put on tho

>>77620546
after NYX and runaways
well NYI because movierights

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>>77622557

They really don't understand firearms.

>>77622588
There's a new SHIELD

>>77622557
how is it bad? I'm sorry I'm not usually around guns, I'm not murrican.

>>77622606
I'm by no means a gun expert at all, nor do I visit /k/, but
>ammo feed
>and a magazine
>with a scope
Tell me if I'm wrong.

>>77622613
Vaccinate the team

>>77622639
Isn't the ammo feed facing the wrong way?

>>77622639
>Tell me if I'm wrong
I wouldnt know
>>77622645
that's not what he meant

>>77622662
Didn't even notice that at first, you're right.

>>77622557
>>77622557
Agreed, I love it

>>77622662
Yes.

>>77622639
Actually, I think you might be right

>>77622606
>>77622629
It's some sort of weird gatling gun but also appears to have a central barrel. The top of the receiver looks like it kind of turns into nothing and has some weird open pit underneath the scope. The scope is sitting far too back rendering either it or the stock unusable. The trigger mechanism, at least I'm assuming that's what it is, is far above the center of mass of the gun, offset at an odd angle, and looks like it's connected into the base of the scope. There's some weird ass curved thing, possibly a second magazine, underneath the foregrip.

And the ammunition belt is feeding rounds into the gun backwards.

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>>77622706
also

>>77622706
so... technical stuff? I didn't understand any of what you said.

>>77622755

Then you'd be perfect fit to draw guns in comic books!

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>>77622514
>We'll never seen this scene in the MCU

>>77622787
Did that fucking gun get bigger? Is it a hulk gun?

>>77622706
>>77622514
>the bullets are backwards
I think they just like to make the guns as silly as possible at this point

>>77621328
They teased his usual costume with him in a Yellow shirt.

If it was up to me, he'd have the afro and tiara.

>>77622432
Pretty much. His powers are like... parasitism to the maximum.

>>77622768
Funny thing is, I'm actually a comic book artist. I do know how to find and use references though, that was just lazy.

>>77622625
But they're not public.

>>77621548
Really, just whatever the fuck I want. Sex, money, power, anything.

>>77622907
okay?

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>>77622857
All depends on the artist (and writer). Ennis is really good for gun porn, even had appropriate Sherman tank versions in an issue of The Boys.

>>77622514
>>77622737
It also shoots fire, because why not?

>>77622927
So she wouldn't know to contact them. As far as anyone is concerned SHIELD was a covert agency that's now dead and gone.

Plus she wouldn't have asked the government for help anyway. It's just not her style.

>>77621891
Malcom said it while handcuffed.

>>77623005
And why would she be able to contact the old one? The MCU really needs Code Blue

Someone post the Krysten Ritter ass webms.

>>77623062
Screw that, post Kilgrave's feet.

>>77622276
I'm just not interested in street level heroes.
When the premise is "they have unrealistic powrs and abilities and use them to do unrealisti shit" it's fine and I love it.
When the premise is that they have normal human abilities and then the execution contradicts it I can't stand it.
And I know about DD's powers, but they don't gie him enhanced physiology, which makes his fights contradictory to his premise, which makes his books shit on principle.

>>77623131

>muh realism

are you fucking kidding me right now? do you even know what a comic book is?

>>77622382
that could be in some alt universe comedy series

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>>77623131
>>77623169

actually do you even know what fiction means? holy fuck the autism in your post. HOLY FUCK.

should i watch this even though i don't know shit about the marvel universe?
I only read DC Comics stuff but this seems genuinely interesting

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>>77623131

>>77622276
No, i didn't read it.

I've read a lot of issues, a lot of stories, a lot of runs, but not that specific one.

Call me a casual.

>>77623211
I think this is so far the best one to watch if you don't know anything about Marvel. There's barely references to other stuff

>>77623211
>should i watch this even though i don't know shit about the marvel universe?
Yes.

>>77623211
Give it a try.

>>77623211
Yeah. You could know absolutely nothing about Marvel and get into it. Very few references.

Did Tennant really lick Ritter's fast?
That's hilarious.
I want to be cast as a rapist if it means I can get away with silly shit like that.

>>77623226
casual

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>Hi Hank.

>>77623253
If you had Kilgrave's powers, how fast would gags like that get old?

Or would they never get old?

>>77623250
>Tennant will never lick your face
Why live?
>>77623253
That was great.

>>77623286
never

>>77623253
>>77623315
I don't remember that. When was it?

>>77623334
Episode 8. Dialogue went something like.
>Kilgrave: This is my bodyguard, Hank. Say hi, Hank.
>Hank: Hi, Hank.

>>77623354
oh yeah. I remember now.

Simpson seems like a really alright guy, if a little too dedicated to his military methods. How is he supposed to be/become a villain?

>>77623402
If you haven't seen it all, it is very subtle and gradual. You'll notice he gets facial ticks, then verbal ticks, then he goes nuclear.

shitty racemixing propaganda

>>77623252
Fuck, i didn't mean it literally. Screw this horrible power.

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>>77623444
thanks for stopping by
>>>/pol/
>>>/tv/

>>77623467
How am I supposed to do that?

>>77623470
Who's bottom-left?

And where's Danny?

Or is that Danny?

Meant to read Bendis' New Avengers years ago but got bored of it

>>77623444

Find the nearest wood chipper, power it on and shove your head into it

>>77623493
>Who's bottom-left?
Peter. Top left of Luke is Danny

>>77623467
Well, let me just unbuckle my pants.

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>>77623467
>>77623491
>>77623510
Man, if Kilgrave's powers could work through the internet, he'd be unstoppable.

>>77623532
Oh ok, assumed that was Thor because of the wavy hair

Will we ever see Trish suit up as Hellcat?

>>77623532
>>77623555

I'm pretty sure that's just Sentry.

>>77623470
Starting at the left, and moving in a down/up order,
>Peter
>Tony
>Carol
>Danny?
>Jessica/baby
>Luke
>Steve/Clint?
>Jessica Drew
>Logan

>>77623599

Probably not. But we got to see her do plenty of fighting and I take it her secret martial arts training and the bruises she tries to hide are evidence that she's personally committed to being some kind of vigilante. In the last episode, she was seen looking at the IGH file, so maybe if there's a season 2, she might fuck around with IGH and get some super powers of some kind for this version. Or just keep fighting without them

Post the Krysten Ritter ass webms.

>>77623645
>Steve/Clint?
That's what I was thinking but he's really stocky

God, why do all you blonde-haired white people look exactly the same?

>>77623599
Trish in tights is one of my main hopes for next season

>>77623544
Terrifying.

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>>77623736

She was wearing some tight black pants a lot

nice legs, nice booty

10/10 casting imho

>>77623645
>>Steve/Clint?
Isn't that Danny drawn too buff?

>>77623774

Danny is the blonde guy with the longer hair

I think the buff guy is Hawkeye

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>>77623820
It's the New Avengers so i'm going to have to say Clint. It's weird that Tony would be invited to the wedding and not Steve though

>>77623820
When did Danny ever have long hair?

Who suffered the most in the show?

>>77623878
Purple Man

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>>77623871

It usually hangs out of the back of his mask so it's probably several inches long

That's why I assumed him to be Danny. The other guy's hair isn't long enough

>>77623878
Patsy

>>77623470
Back row: Tony “Iron Man” Stark, Bob “Sentry” Reynolds, Steve “Captain America” Rogers
Front Row: Peter “Spider-man” Parker, Carol “Ms. Marvel” Danvers, Jessica “Jewel” Jones with Danielle Cage-Jones, Luke “Power Man” Cage, Jessica “Spider-woman” Drew, James “Wolverine” Logan

I'm surprised at how much I like the supporting cast. Even crazy twin sister has really grown on me.

>>77623905
It's even longer, Danny never hair that long.
Not that I remember at least.
Mostly it's really short like the guy's to the right.

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It's like I'm really reading a book edited by Marvel

>>77623544
It would be like one of them chain letter, but real.

What was Patsy's show supposed to be? Some '90s equivalent of Hannah Montana or something?

>>77623986

That's what it looked like

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>>77622382
>T-that's my Kilgrave

>>77623976
It was the guy they bribed with the resteraunt.

>>77623986
Patsy's show was in honor of her old original comic that came out before Marvel was even a thing.

It was slice of life like Archie from what I could tell from Wikipedia.

I had no idea the character was that old

>>77623952
It's the Sentry

>>77624030
Was talking about the typo

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dat young JJ

HHHNNNGGG

>>77624065
because everybody types perfectly

>>77624065
I didn't even notice. Nice catch.

>>77624065
>>77624094
aw shit nevermind kek

>>77624085

Pedophile

I'm reporting this to newmoot, that Hiroyuki motherfucker

>>77624065
That took forever for me to notice

>>77624085
She was pretty hot

>>77624065
Maybe the guy's name was Unkown.

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>>77621548

I-I would just have people be nicer to me.

>>77624249
>everyone becomes immune

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>>77624297

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>>77624249
>>77624297
>>77624345

>kilgrave manages to mind control the one crazy ex spook cop destined to be a super villain in the whole city

haha yeah ok

>>77623131
>>77623169
consisteency with the premise=/=realism
if you say the character is superstrong then it's fine for the character to do things that require superstrenght.
If you say the character is not superstrong, then having him do feats of superstrength means you fucked up somewhere. Because you couldn't respect the limit you himself imposed on your character. You didn't think things through.

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>>77623470
>Luke has no black friends
Bendis couldn't even make sure Misty was there

>>77624607
well he mind controlled a bunch of cops, not just him

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>>77624614

>>77621548
I thought about it already. I would always say please and just use it for free stuff. I'd be nice to everyone. I'd definitely use it for sex but I would never be cruel.

>jessica regularly bends metal and snaps locks
>she can't defend herself from a dude hopped up on speed

wow what a super hero! i'm so glad i'm an empowered female in 2015 with so many heroes to look up to!!!!!

What are the references to comic books and other series?
Did anyone catch a Stan Lee Cameo?

>>77624685

Bendis just can't turn his gabby sinicism off, can he?

Robyn best character.
i hope they give her some crazy ass trippy powers and make her an upgraded nuisance.
Neither a hero nor a villain, but someone who is a danger to both the groups and thinks she is working with the soul of her dead bother.

>>77624791
nope, it's part of his charm

>>77623878
Malcolm. God I felt so sorry for Malcolm.

>>77624775
>hopped up on speed
lol ok anon
>so glad i'm an empowered female in 2015 with so many heroes to look up to
Jessica Jones is not a role model, not in the show or in the comics. Take your bait to the other thread

>>77624791
>sinicism

>>77624785
IGH instead of MGH as the most obvious.

I'm sure there were a few others but I don't remember them at the moment.

>>77624859

but all my female blogs and websites say i'm supposed to rate this 10/10 and A+ because it has female characters and lesbians!

Jessica and Luke fucked in this way more than they did in Alias lol

>>77624929
stop

>all this drama bullshit with trish could have been avoided if marvel had just manned up and use Carol like in the comic

>>77624917
>>77624785
there were references to luke cage and hellcat, dunno if anyone else has caught them.
also another reference to bendis series aside from the dress, but I don't remember what it was, only that I noticed it.

They have like 3 threads bitching about this on /tv/ right now

>>77624775
Why are you /tv/ rejects so dumb?

>>77625004
That's because /tv/ is cancer anon.

>>77625004
Fix that they actually have like 10 threads lmao

>>77624983
Well, I wasn't counting references to characters. Since Hellcat, Night Nurse and Nuke weren't named as such on the show.

Unless you mean something apart from personalities and character names. And costumes because I'm pretty sure I saw Luke with an orange shirt and black pants at some point.

>>77625004
And?