When did cooking shift from being a female pastime to a male

If you want to have something done right, do it yourself.

>>8554189
>more men are coming than women it seems

Where are you getting that informaton from?

It seems to me that the first part of your statement is true:

>> the modern trend that no one cooks and everyone goes out to eat

....and that these days, very few men OR women cook much.

If you have any actual data that suggests that more men cook than women these days I'd love to see it.

>When did cooking shift from being a female pastime to a male pastime?
after the year 2117, because we're at least a century away from that.

>>8554201
leave the basement sometime

>>8554194
He gets all his information from the only place he needs to: right here!

So because (around here):
>fast food is cooking, and
>women aren't allowed on the internet lel

Only men cook anymore and all women are shit.

Just look at op! Look at how good of a cook he is. Only a top-tier chef would have the /ck/ approved culinary skills to start this thread! I'll bet he's not a socially awkward, sexually repressed loser in the least, no sir-y!!

>>8554194
>more men are coming
can confirm
i cum

>providing basic nourishment for husband and children because your role is a domestic slave
female cook

>understanding and being good at cooking without endless repetition and being trained since birth, your services sought out by the wealthy and powerful
male cook

it was only a female thing during the 50s and 60s and only now as low tier housewives.

name 5 top female chefs that arent just low tier chefs

>>8556128
1. Martha Stewart, everyone loves her
2. Alice Waters, she started the local foods trend
3. that hot British lady? Nagella?
4. hat fat American lady? Paula Deen?
5. That Chinese lady who opened Mandarin's

>>8556170
>Celebrities who happen to make food on camera
>Top tier chefs

Surely you jest.

>>8554903
Nice bait
www.telegraph.co.uk/men/11678061/The-rise-of-the-male-cook-and-why-the-kitchen-is-the-new-shed.html


www.esquire.com/food-drink/a22721/men-cook-more-now-than-ever-15506451/

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-2991393/Half-women-admit-man-better-cook-them.html


https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2016/may/05/why-are-there-so-few-women-chefs

>>8554189
There have always been more male cooks and chefs than women.

Is this story for real?

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>>8557196
>telegraph.co.uk
>esquire
>dailymail

>>8554189
My father never cooked a meal in his life that didn't involve meat on a grill. He grew up thinking the only men who cooked beyond that were professionals. Then again he lived at home where his mother cooked for him until he married my mother, who then cooked for him. Mom quit her job before marrying him, and became a mother and housewife for the rest of her life.

I lived on my own for a while as a bachelor, so I learned to cook, and discovered I liked it. When I got married it was to a woman who had a career as well. We decided two incomes were better than one, which meant we had to split the housework. I sure as fuck didn't want to do the laundry or clean the fucking bathroom, so I took over the cooking. If I married a woman who didn't work I'd expect her to be the cook. But I'm more than happy to cook to have two incomes at our disposal.

>>8554189
its partially the ease of eating out or buying reasonably healthy prepared meals at places like trader joes or whole foods.

There is a cultural stigma against women learning to cook by feminists who claim that having basic life skills(cooking, cleaning, basic financial skills) is the patriarchy ruining and oppressing women into servitude.

I know a lot of guys near my age (25) who can cook well and a lot of guys who cant. I barely know any women in the same age range who are any good at cooking.

> 2017
> 3rd Wave Feminists

Can't do what men do today.
Can't do what women did yesterday.

>>8557974
>> 3rd Wave Feminists
>Can't do what men do today.
>Can't do what women did yesterday.

Women were never great chefs famnegro.

Women only cooked at home because it was a way to make themselves useful.

Take a look at Michelin & Zagat rated restaurants.

90% of the world's top chefs are male. Same at it ever was.

>>8557974

I've yet to meet ONE Millennial aged white girl who can cook...

You need to get yourself a nice Asian or Latina honey who still has any skills left.

White girls are good for fucking & tossing.

I only took up cooking because my girlfriend can't cook for shit and being in college put me on a strict budget. Now those constraints are gone, and I'm very glad I learned how to cook properly. It's weird that most of the female cooks I see on social media are bakers.

>>8554189
Honestly I think it just depends on where you live. I live in a small town in Ohio, and my dad was always the cook.

>>8557965
>There is a cultural stigma against women learning to cook by feminists
It's bigger than that. Traditionally women learned to cook by helping their mothers cook. Boomer women rebelled against this, and their daughters didn't have anyone to show them how to cook. The few families where cooking traditions did get passed along the female relatives are all obese now, because people ate much heavier food a couple generations ago (and much more of it because physical work had them burning nearly double the calories we do today).
>I barely know any women in the same age range who are any good at cooking.
Among the people I know in that range the guys do seem to cook more regularly than the girls.

>>8558029
Yeah I certainly agree with you there, thats a big part of it

>>8554189
feminism
men are better at cooking In 2017
what reason does a woman need to learn how to cook?

>>8554189
why do cuckold stories always make me so fucking angry.
They literally make me seethe with rage

>>8558092
Because people who don't fuck often find themselves super invested in the way other people do

>>8557965
>>8558029
Pretty much this. Most young people in general can't cook nowadays because they don't want to put in the effort and people aren't teaching them.

Feminism probably has something to do with it, as you guys have suggested, but I don't think it's the main reason. It has probably added to it a lot, but I think it mostly stems from how cooking changed after WWII. If you look at cookbooks and cooking products from that time, they were mostly geared towards putting in less effort and using more processed goods. During that time, not knowing how to cook traditionally basically became a status symbol. A lot of boomers grew up not knowing how to cook because their mothers were using fancy new recipes that involved things like boxed meals and canned mixes. Then their kids had even fewer cooking skills.

A lot of people that can cook now can do so because they view it at least partially as a hobby and put some effort into it. Most people don't care and still rely on those products if they put any effort into their cooking at all.

>>8558144
>pretty much this
You have to go back.

Because women cant cook for shit they even fuck up during baking shit

I got into cooking because my mom was shit at it.

Because men are better at everything, including making food. Women also have careers now, plus they're generally more lazy so they'd rather have us cook for them because it's easier and tastier.

>>8558154
T. permavirgin

There are still a lot of decent female cooks. Most of them don't really understand why their food is good tho. They just repeat what their mothers thought them.

>>8558092
Serious answer because the cornerstone of civilization is seriously built upon matrimonial contracts of implicit or explicit sexual exclusivity.

It goes beyond time. It is a literal meme, not the joke kind. It's ingrained In EVERYONE'S soul, a concept that everyone intrinsically understands.

In this particular case, you feel repulsed by a news source (which is supposed to be reputable by Nature, in theory) advocating a position that is so far beyond bizarre to the average person that it's laughable...as if it were normal. This worries you for the future of your civilization, as you start to fear that these values when pushed on you, or people you care about, as if they were normal.

Tl,dr: memes are powerful and are not to be trifled with

My mother cooks and bakes much better than my father, but she's always held a more time consuming / prestigious job than him.
He can cook and bake, but hes a tad lazy with it / has pretty shit taste.

My sisters both cook / bake, but they tend to look for shortcuts and just want the meal to be done. (would rather buy pre-breaded chicken than take the 10 min to bread it themselves).
The one who's married does all the cooking, her husband does none of it.

I live with my GF, who works less hours than me and doesn't really commute. But shes fucking lazy and refuses to follow a recipe 90% of the time. So i cook almost all meals because id rather it be done right. Has nothing to do with feminism in our situation at least, shes just fuckin lazy.
Her mother and father never baked anything other than box brownies either, so my background in hand baking pies and cakes with my mother also lends me to do all the work in that department too.

That said, i know plenty of women who cook and bake on a regular basis in/around my age group.

Who really gives a fuck though.

Women are expected to cook for their households and extended families. If any of you have worked in a restaurant kitchen, cooking full-time at work and at home is a nightmare. Women are responsible for a tremendous portion of culinary accomplishment but are ultimately underrepresented in the field because they contribute their labor to their households

>>8554903
It's spelled siree you fucking troglodyte

>>8558144
>A lot of people that can cook now can do so because they view it at least partially as a hobby and put some effort into it.
Partially true. There's also the pragmatic angle. Most folks really like the idea of eating meals that are both tasty and healthy. But if you don't cook that can get really expensive really quickly. I know people who don't cook and they spend an order of magnitude more on food a month than I do. It's more than just a hobby. It can have huge economic and health benefits as well.

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>>8554189
>sjw cuck news article
>
Thank god I'll never be a racemixer

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>>8554189
>open relationship
>open

That's not a relationship

>>8558351
>women are expected
Do you live in the depths of rural Utah?

Women aren't expected to do anything.

Really? I thought people cooked more than ever because of Food Network and posting their creations on social media

>>8554189
Is cuck the new hip thing kids are doing nowadays?

>>8558487
>he doesn't believe in female empowerment
Way to be on the wrong side of history, Grandpa.

>>8558144
>cooking is now a hobby
is the correct answer to OP
men are always more involved in useless hobbes

>>8554189
Don't reply. "Thinly veiled" troll thread.

>>8558602
Yeah, just realized this now reading this thread, really obvious in retrospect

>>8554189
These kind of bait threads have been 24/7 in /v/ now I guess they're moving to other boards I frequent. Sad!

Because men are way more willing to soapbox about how good they are at something on the internet. There are millions of women who are good cooks who, y'know, just don't talk about it incessantly.

But good luck slaying puss with your one-pot spaghetti, permavirgins.

>>8554189
I recently picked up cooking when I started living alone. I'm still getting the hang of it, but I really enjoy it, and there is a great feeling of satisfaction when you improve.

>>8554189
The modern western woman is a lazy, entitled, useless whore.

>>8554189
>women: "i dont want to cook for x reason"
>men: "well then, im hungry so i will"
>men later: "turns out this can be fun if i apply myself"

Ez

>>8561342
This.

In general, men are better at literally everything except maybe child rearing/clipping coupons.

>>8554189
Plenty of angry cunts in this thread
I cook, all my male friends cook, dad cooks, my uncle cooks. I'm pretty sure I haven't met a single man who doesn't cook
Meanwhile every girl I meet either has no idea how to or there is the single thing she can make
Women are too pampered and men are having fun because for the first time in forever we don't have to go die at some war or some factory

>>8554189
In my case, mom always cooked the day-to-day basic food, and dad would cook (still does) on holidays and special occasions and would do fucking wonders.
I cook almost daily for myself and think that making a tastier, more sort of special type of meal only takes at most 15 more minutes. So I became better and better at it, I guess.

>>8556170
Martha Stewart steals recipes for her books, she can't even make half the shit she shows. She has better cooks making it for her

Aren't most of the top chefs in the world male?

>>8562846
>martha steals recipes

Yeah, may very well be, but every one I've made has come out good. I'm certain she has the dishes set up for the cameras, but her stuff, partcularly baking, is spot on.

>>8562852
most of the best everything are men
best hait stylists? men
best at doing makeup? men
you can look into entirely female dominated jobs and the best is still men

>>8562867
so she is great at hiring other people to make or steal thing for her then
you know, i bet the best at taking credit for someone elses work is female

>>8562828
You have to go back.

>>8554189
Cooking has always been a manly thing.

Cooking is inherently manly

>>8555443
>>providing basic nourishment for husband and children because your role is a domestic slave

>work 20 hours each week at best
>domestic slave

Lol.

>>8557196
Maybe don't use columns as sources

>>8564472
Whore detected.

>>8555443
Another whore detected.

The only people I've met under the age of 25 that cook were raised by single parents.
Parents don't teach their children to cook anymore, male or female. And that's if the grandparents even taught the parents to cook.

>>8564770
Cooking is looking up a recipe on your smartphone and throwing shit in a pan. You're a retard.

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>this thread again
Why do millennials like to pretend to be wizened old immortals who have a clue about how things "yousta be"?

Women started working outside the home two generations ago. This is not something new. Whatever your white trash parents failed to teach you, it's got nothing to do with a global jewish conspiracy nor was it invented by the Tumbeler web blog in 2012

>>8564783
>WAAAAAH GO BACK TO /POL/
Gut yourself, whore.

>>8564787
>a website invented a fact I didn't learn about in school
One thing I will say about how things yousta be, we did learn about these things in primary school. You, not so much. Betsy Devos works fast, it seems.

>>8564788
>yousta be
Kill yourself, whore.

>>8564789
An on-topic and constructive reply. As expected from a millennial blessed with the iPad his parents used as a pacifier.

>>8564795
>MUH MILLENIALS
Drown yourself in a sewer, whore.

>>8564797
Is "whore" the new millennial insult for people of all sexes who upset me? Yousta be that we reserved that phrase for women, specifically women of loose virtue. But gender fluidity is the trend now, I guess, so I will not accuse you of assuming anything.

>>8564801
I'm guessing you're a woman, going by your rhetoric. All women are whores.

>>8564802
My "rhetoric" that every child yousta be taught in history books?

You were home schooled, weren't you. The sad fact that these parents don't understand is that schooling isn't just for book knowledge (although they obviously failed you in that department as well). It teaches socialization which, when a child goes without, leads to a crippled adulthood, as we see here with you

>>8564816
>"rhetoric"
Any time, whore. Just drink that glass of wine and grab the knife.

This is some delicious cringe

>>8564821
I thought the millennials preferred to say 'kys'. How do you have the patience to type all those words? Are you medicated now?

>>8564823
Isn't it?

>>8564825
No, we still have the attention span to wish retards death.

I'm the only one of my friends who can cook well. I'm no 3 star chef, but I know my way around a kitchen and can make shit taste good. My girlfriend is ass at cooking. She's lazy as fuck. She complains that whenever she tries to cook that it never turns out as good as when I do it and I tell her cooking is like anything else that requires skill; you gotta practice and fuck it up a lot to become decent. As far as I know my friend's girlfriends are similar to mine in varying degrees with one exception and she's a more traditional type of girl. She's also large.

As far as the male/female dynamic goes, I think it's more of just a natural predisposition of most men to go after something they want. If you want good food and nobody can make it for you, then you find a way to do it yourself. Women have traditionally been provided for and in a lot of ways are still taught that that's the way it should be for them. They essentially wage the war of attrition when it comes to household chores, or at least mine does. She's ok with eating shit prepackaged food and living in a pig sty if it means she can have her face firmly planted in her phone screen for 4 hours at a time. Whereas I'd rather eat good food and have a tidy place to live so I always break first and end up doing most of the cleaning and all of the cooking. Men also take pride in shit too. Prideful women are a rarity.

>>8564779
Niggas don't even know how to make scrambled eggs. It's not hyperbole.

>>8564850
I can do it easily. Whores need to step off and realize they're worthless in our modern life.

>>8554189
I think it happened as agriculture became less labor intensive. It used to be that the men folk would work the fields, and the women would make sure a good meal was ready for lunch and supper. I know that the change happened pre-80's. I used to watch a lot of cooking shows on PBS growing up. It was almost all male hosts. Jeff Smith (the Frugal Chef), Martin Yan, Justin Wilson, Graham Kerr... Really, Julia was the only female host.

This continued into the 90's and food network. We had Emeril, Mario, Bobby, Ming, and Alton. None of the female hosts gained any lasting notoriety. Rachel Ray was really the first break away female host in 2001.Then they started really pushing females. Paula Deen, Ina Garten, Giada...

So in my mind, for at least 40 years, cooking beyond grilling, which has always been man's domain, has been socially acceptable.

I'm sure women's suffrage had an impact as well. With women entering the work place, cooking duties slowly began to reach an equilibrium.

Besides, if you want something cooked right, have a man do it. We take way more pride in it.

>>8564932
Fuck off roastie

>>8564932
What are you 12? Because you have a seventh grade understanding of history. That or you're one of those MGTOW faggots in which case you're just a mysoginist.

>>8564939
Stop pretending you're me.

>>8564932
you might have an intolerance to eggs

that's kind of how it starts

try not eating eggs for a few days and see if it clears up

>>8564943
>just a mysoginist.
Whore detected.

>>8564943
I'm celibate by choice, whore. Now make me a sammich

>>8564949
high 5 bro!

>>8564954
Stop pretending you're me.

>>8564957
Whores need to shut the fuck up;

>>8561318
you ever read a post and just know it was written by a bitter, obese roastie

Cooking shows became competitive which drew the interest of a lot of men.

>>8564963
>DUUUUUURRRRRRRRRR

>>8564964

Do you need some ointment or cream for that?

>>8564943
Is this some new form of trolling? I'm 40. I have stated my experiences. It has been socially acceptable for men to cook for my entire life.

Every part of my post states in some form or another that it is anecdotal. "I think...", "So in my mind...", "I'm sure...".

Maybe you need to get off the internet, and spend some time learning to read critically, kid.

>>8564966
Fat feminazi SJW go kys

>>8564962
for those of us that haven't spent a lot of time here int he last few years... What the fuck is a roastie?

>>8564967
I'm actually a fat redneck who gives no fucks about anything that doesn't affect me personally.

>>8564968
It's a gash beast. A whore. An inferior animal craved by nu males who also want to be one so the constantly apologizing to them for having a penis (barely)

>>8564976
Sounds very /pol/. wtf happened to this board? It was never good, but it usually had some semblance of on-topic conversation.

>>8564984
You have a general about alcoholism. This is a trash board.

>>8554189
Most famous chefs are _____
(The answer is male)
History has proven it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc

>>8554857
Except he's literally correct

Your problem is you assume the world is America/Europe

All those African, Asian countries have predominantly female cooks.

It's only in beta as fuck, feminized western nations where men are pussy ass bitches who cook all the time

>>8566614
Burn in hell, roastie cunt.

>>8554189
Women don't exist on the internet OP.
Haven't you learned this by now?

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>When did cooking shift from being a female pastime to a male pastime?

because I can cook better than any woman Ive ever met.

>>8566637
They do, and they make it worse. Like literally everything they touch.

>>8566642
Yea you're right anon.I meant here specifically, though. Women do not dare to tread here. Unless they're really dumb.

>>8566670
You have an alcoholism general. You're practically begging for whores.

It correlates with the fact that less men have loving mothers, jobs, and have girlfriends that aren't incompetent children. So they have to eat the stuff they like somehow.

>>8566774
Fuck off, whore.

>>8566782
Have some self respect.

>>8566785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc

>>8566812
>>>/lgbt/

>>8566816
>>>/soc/
>>>/r9k/

>>8566827
Uh huh. See you there, you massive queen.

>>8566812
The lesbian kiss at the end was the best part

>>8566833
Shut your whore mouth.

>>8554189
men have always been better/more prolific at cooking, it's just females have been the ones burdened to do it

>>8566834
Nice autogynephilia, fag.

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>>8554189
>When did cooking shift from being a female pastime to a male pastime?

The rise of feminism in the early 1970s that trained women into believing that being a wife and mother was somehow “degrading” and "sexist".

>>8566845
That picture is so powerful. It literally shows the starting process of the creation of a roastie.

>no one cooks and everyone goes out to eat

Ive been thinking about this and i think i know why.

Groceries are very expensive now and unless youre cooking for a lot of people its almost worth it to go out and get food that is already made because time is money and the $5 extra youre paying at a restaurant as opposed to cooking at home is worth it for the hour in the kitchen youd spend making it and then cleaning up aftwrwards.

>>8554189
Because modern women are abso-fucking-lutely worthless and food is not going to cook itself.

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>mother and sister watch cooking shows on food network all goddamn day and still cant cook worth a fuck

>>8562840
This

>>8567231
How fat are they?

Because men grew tired of lazy cooking
Theres a reason most chefs are men
Women cut corners which is fine bc as theyre often moms, theyre busy. Pr9bably is when generations cut corners off already corner cut methods, and their food is lazy at best. Men think theyre better cooks but really theyre just less lazy if applying themselves. Women arent bad cooks, they just learned poorly. Many male cooks learned from non lazy cooks, or are self taught so dont have corners cut

>>8567333
>theyre often moms, theyre busy
You have a retarded nigger brain. They should be busy rearing their children, not dropping them off at day care every day.

>>8567337
More meant busy cleaning and the like, especially if multiple kids

>>8567401
>WAAAH IT'S SO HARD TO KEEP A HOUSEHOLD
Reverse women's suffrage. This is how Rome fell.

>>8567404
Back to Stormfront.

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>>8564838
Wait she doesn't clean? Come on man you gotta be able to find a better girlfriend.

>>8567598
Eat a dick, whore.

Women never actually cooked properly past the 50s and 60s. Shit like the freezer section ruined homes with shitty food for convenience sake.

Also look at any old cookbook, you're gonna get a bunch of fucking meme gelatin and aspic recipes. Shit is absolutely disgusting. Add to that packaged sides, fast food, and spoiled younger generations after the baby boomers and you have our shit society where McDonald's is not only considered viable as a source of nutrition, but can even be seen as dinner, multiple times a week.

Of course the aspic and gelatin thing is kind of American, so are meme recipes like ham and bananas hollandaise, but USA is the only country that matters anyway.

>>8564768
Pretty sure you don't know how to read.

He implied women put only the bare minimum of effort into cooking their "nourishing" meals, while men seek to become masters of the hobby.

>>8567718
I've been swatting away whores all day here. Give me a break.

>>8567651
Kill yourself as soon as physically possible.

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>>8566614
>men are pussy ass bitches who cook all the time

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>>8567724
>I'm so broken that I've been sitting here refreshing the same page for 20 hours straight screaming 'ROASTIE' at anyone who uses words I don't understand
ftfy

>>8557980
>Women were never great chefs famnegro.
>Women only cooked at home because it was a way to make themselves useful.
>Take a look at Michelin & Zagat rated restaurants.
>90% of the world's top chefs are male. Same at it ever was.

this

>>8557990
>I've yet to meet ONE Millennial aged white girl who can cook...

Modern american white girls are fucking useless at practically everything.

All they know is how to whine & complain until other people do shit for them.

>>8558176
>implying everyone doesn't just repeat what is taught to them

>>8557974
>> 3rd Wave Feminists
>Can't do what men do today.
>Can't do what women did yesterday.

so true

>>8568241
>Modern american white girls are fucking useless at practically everything.
>All they know is how to whine & complain until other people do shit for them.

:likesthispost:

>>8557965
>I barely know any women

post seems to explain itself

>>8568249
welcome to 4chan

>When did cooking shift from being a female pastime to a male pastime?
Basic cooking skills must be taught by parents in order to survive later, and even there it's done disgracefully. From what I've seen, it seems easier to blame schools for not teaching students basic cooking skills.

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>>8557990
>I've yet to meet ONE Millennial aged white girl who can cook...

That's why you need to date yourself some asians. 100% better personality and they actually have home skills.

>>8557990
>White girls are good for fucking & tossing.

This. White princesses are Jizz Rags. Use them and toss them. Find yourself an asian or latina to keep.

lol @ all the triggered little white princesses in here.

Spend some fucking time learning some skills instead of getting triggered and flapping your fat fingers on a message board

>>8568339
t.Cast Iron guy who thinks his hamboigahs are a major life accomplishment, if only he could eventually trick a female other than his mother into trying them

p.s. I'm a scrawny Asian man, come at me bro

>>8568350
>I'm a scrawny Asian man, come at me bro

Are you also hairless? You'd probably make a better wifey than 75% white girls.

>>8568361
I probably would, but I'm not as hairless as you might hope

Cooking was never a female dominated field. HOME cooking, yes, because women tended the home while men worked. But in any professional environment? More of an even split. Even in ye aulden days, professional kitchen servants and cooks were just as if not more often men then women. Why?

Because it was then, and is now, hard fucking work. In the old days cooking was extremly labor intensive, especially cooking for large groups. You had to carry your own wood and water, rotate primals on spits over open flame for long periods of time. These days the physicality has decreased somewhat but it still involves long hours of stressful and sometimes strenuous work, and focused concentration. This is something Men happen to be quite good at because we evolved to be persistence hunters, so by default men are great at focusing in on ONE thing and tuning shit out for hours at a time. Women are, comparatively, much more aware in other ways, particularly to verbal and non verbal ques.

It's that age old joke - Woman asks her boyfriend, "What are you thinking?" The man says nothing. And he fucking MEANS it. He was just sitting there, focused on whatever he was doing, thinking of nothing else. And that is unfathomable to women, who are naturally more inclined to be looking for communication ques constantly.

And that is why high pressure professional cooking is male dominated. A combination of physical and mental endurance factors that favor male traits over female ones.

>>8557990

Nah son you just gotta look for a country girl. Especially if she's european. Hurry though they're running out of white europeans.

>>8567002
An extra $5 a day
So thats5*7 which is 35 which *52 is $1820
For that i can clean as i cook bc nit a retard
Also as food tastes better when home ooked unless an expensive restaurant, to match it means mre than $5 extra

>>8557990
My girlfriend can, but only southern style food bc she was raised there and taught by grandparents. My technique is far better