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>TFW 22 years old loser >TFW never graduated highschool

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>TFW 22 years old loser
>TFW never graduated highschool
>TFW no drivers license
>TFW shitty, minimum wage part time job
>TFW fat dyel
>TFW low testosterone
>TFW kissless virgin
>TFW trying to lift but it's hardly working

Please help me...

How can I become normal?
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>>1742941
you can start at r9k
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>>1742942
I started there and ended here.
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>>1742941
give blowjobs for $
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>>1742941
1. don't be a 25 year old loser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p978u4r-q4c&ab_channel=osfracosdevemtemerosfortes

2. you don't need a formal education, the most important thing is that you become an autodidact wherever possible, this world is a school and nobody expects to stay in school forever

3. work towards getting your drivers licence - you have a part time job so give it some meaning by working towards that

4&5. stop eating processed garbage, it's ruining your sex life

6. stop worrying about getting a gf, pussy overated. it's a waste of time fucken hell mate build yourself up

7. lift heavier weights until your mind and body become completely numb

most importantly make a schedule
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>>1742957
>you don't need a formal education

I know but what about the benefits from networking with people in College? Also it feels like everyone has a degree these days and that it's become the baseline requirement to get anywhere.

Can you elaborate on the making a schedule part? For the lifting weights component I'm considering anabolic steroids because I am very weak
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>>1742960
If you know where you want to go, and have it planned out, go to college. It will definitely benefit you and yes if you're clever enough you'll make the right connections with the people there.

Pen and paper, make a weekly timetable, put all of your important tasks on there (i.e work, meals, going to the gym), fill in the rest of your spare time with things that will improve your craft.

Not sure if you're taking the piss at this point, I've seen this thread on /fit/. Don't do steroids knobhead.

You need to do everything right first. Just focus on eating right and incrementally lifting heavier, guaranteed pathway to get stronger.

After 5 years of training hard, then steroids might be an option.

Don't waste time, find all your vices and just fuck em off.
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>>1742971
>. Don't do steroids knobhead.

I'm low-test as fuck, I feel like it's the only option now. It would probably fix everything else too.
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>>1742957
>1. don't be a 25 year old loser
This offended me, being a 26 yo loser.
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>>1742981
If you can't achieve sound strength naturally you will never have the willpower to do so even if you're on juice. If you're low test it's straight up a sign that you're not training hard enough. How long have you been lifting for? How dedicated have you been?

>>1742984
Someones gotta do it, I do wish you the best though anon
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>>1742995
That's idiotic.

I think you are downplaying the effects of testosterone. I mean it's not like it's literally what makes men, men....
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>>1742998
You know women have t right?
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>>1743003
Around 1/10th or even lower than that of an average man's, yes.
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>>1742971
>After 5 years of training hard, then steroids might be an option.

Probably the soundest piece of advice I have seen on Biz for a long time... and its not even related to bizness

Remember... Taking steroids stays in your system forever as it mutates cells... Can disform your offspring/ Miscarriages (mostly while your on it) and makes it HIGHLY likely for you to have a heart attack in the very near future

Sauce? Close family member died in his early 20s... Openly used steroids from 18, tried for kids from 20 onwards couldn't have them... We all linked it to the steroid usage... Another relative not related to previous family member took steroids from early age... had 2 heart attacks in his 20s... survived both... now at 30, saying steroids worst thing he ever did!
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>>1743054
>Remember... Taking steroids stays in your system forever as it mutates cells... Can disform your offspring/ Miscarriages (mostly while your on it) and makes it HIGHLY likely for you to have a heart attack in the very near future

[citation needed]

>Sauce? Close family member died in his early 20s... Openly used steroids from 18, tried for kids from 20 onwards couldn't have them... We all linked it to the steroid usage... Another relative not related to previous family member took steroids from early age... had 2 heart attacks in his 20s... survived both... now at 30, saying steroids worst thing he ever did!

That's idiotic.

What about
1) His other lifestyle choices
2) Pre-existing conditions
3) What compounds did he use, what doses?
4) Family history of health problems

Kind of dumb to lump all of them under one umbrella. You sound pretty uneducated on the matter.
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>>1743061
I don't need to cite anything really... Google is a pretty common feature that people use these days my good friend

I'm not getting into a prolonged debate about... Pro-steroids vs Anti-steroids... Its not a debate... its been proven, by the government... Its illegal because its fucking dangerous to health!

>Inb4 Itz unly dungerus if missused

Any usage of it is fucking miss-use its an unnatural growth hormone, it makes parts of your body grow abnormally... ABNORMAL just so you know means; not fucking normal.
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>>1743054
Lol you have retarded family members.

>>1742941
Don't blame your inadequacies on low test you fucking faggot. You are in all likelihood not low testosterone unless you've been to an endocrinologist.
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>>1743077
>Google is a pretty common feature that people use these days my good friend

Yeah and the research doesn't agree with you.

>Its not a debate... its been proven, by the government...
But it hasn't though.

>Its illegal because its fucking dangerous to health!

>Any usage of it is fucking miss-use its an unnatural growth hormone, it makes parts of your body grow abnormally... ABNORMAL just so you know means; not fucking normal.

Even if you're deficient in it?

That's fucking retarded. You don't have the faintest idea of what you're talking about.

>Any usage of it is miss-use
Why do doctors prescribe it to people who's body doesn't produce it naturally? Why is it prescribed to people with AIDS?

You know testosterone wasn't invented by bodybuilders, but as medicine, right?
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>>1742941
>TFW 22 years old loser
>TFW never graduated highschool
>TFW no drivers license
>TFW shitty, minimum wage part time job
>TFW fat dyel
>TFW low testosterone
>TFW kissless virgin
>TFW trying to lift but it's hardly working

you can literally change all that in like 1 year max - how the fuck is this a problem.
>TFW low testosterone
did you get tested? in case you've not you're not low test
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>>1743081
>You are in all likelihood not low testosterone unless you've been to an endocrinologist.

Yeah i guess my 370 ng/dl total testosterone blood work is just a meme.

i mean it's just barely in range and far below median for my agegroup. No problems here! Guess it's normal to have no facial hair, weak sex-drive, periods of depression, no drive, trouble with making muscle gains

fuck you faggot
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If your fat and can't even lift baby weights you shouldn't be thinking of steriods.

eat high testosterone diet, sleep well, lift heavy weights, do deadlifts and squats, make your back massive with wide arm pull ups with incremental difficulty, eat high fat high protien low carbs to stay in ketosis, don't waster time looking at a computer screen and be constantly doing something productive!

Start reading books for the job field you want go into, save money from your part time job to fund whatever your gonna do next.

But most important of all is mindset.

Don't be a bitch.

What would a bitch do? Do the opposite.
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>>1743082
>>1743083
>>1743089

>LE XD UR JUST MAKING IT UP HEHEHEHE

pic related: my fucking bloodwork
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>>1743095
that is by far not a deficit
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>>1743087
>>1743095

>falls within the clinically defined range of normal test
>low test
>pick one

Stop being a bitch. You ever think of dealing with your problems instead of blaming them on factors outside your control?
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>>1743098
It is when you consider that it counts men from 18-70


It's far below the median for my age group of 18-25. How the fuck is that "normal"?

>>1743100
how about you look at the median levels of men

Besides, top endocrinologists admit it's more about treating symptoms than just blood levels. Different people function better on different levels of testosterone, for some men it's too low (like me, who has virtually every textbook symptom of low test)
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>>1743095
also
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1117056
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>>1743103
thats why you take ranges in medicine and not median/avg etc.
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>>1743100
>Stop being a bitch. You ever think of dealing with your problems instead of blaming them on factors outside your control?

A little funny when you can read about countless (anecdotal) stories of people going from test levels around mine to high-range of physiological, or even supraphysiological and having a complete 180* in how they felt

You really seem to underestimate how much of an effect hormones have on people
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>>1743105
That doesn't work when you take such a wide fucking range.

The range for "healthy" testosterone levels is literally 300-1200ng/dl, that's idiotic. It takes into account 18 year olds who should have healthy and finely operating HYPOTHALMIC-PITUITARY-TESTICULAR AXIXES AND

70 YEAR OLD MEN WHO ARE CLOSE TO DEATH. How is that a reasonable range???!!!
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>>1743108

300 can be perfectly fine as can 1200ng

problems are usually when you have like 300 normal and then some tumor in your balls makes it produce 1200

ITS still in the range - but you have to compare it on a time scale with your other values. Thats why you go to a doctor and don't ask fucking /biz/ or /fit/ for diagnosis
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>>1743109
Nah man! He needs a bogeyman to blame for his issues!
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>>1743109
They don't give a shit dude.

I bring up the problem, doctor looks at it and says "Lol it's in range ur good". totally ignores my problems, anecdotal and even clinical research.

And my experience isn't uncommon. Tons of men voice their experiences about this and how hard it is to get treated

>>1743112
oh yeah totaly

hormones don't have any effect on peoples' motivation or anything XD
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>>1743108
also
>How is that a reasonable range???!!!

you can be 80 years old and still have one or the other perfectly intact organ so i see no problem there. That non spreading braintumor that killed you won't neccessarily make EVERY other organ fail
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>>1743109
>ITS still in the range - but you have to compare it on a time scale with your other values.

The point is that the range is broken.

It counts men all the way from 18-70. When it should be a range OF MEN 18-25, who are healthy.

a 22 year old should not have testosterone levels equal to the those of the median elderly man, he's going to feel like that old man.

>>1743117
wat

not sure what you're trying to say by that because it makes no sense but testosterone levels drop off quite significantly per year after about 30-40. Why is it smart to compare younger men on such a wide scale?
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>>1743115
you actually do know what you must do to achieve your goals. you realize this is hard but you realize what has to be done. how can you possibly blame that on anything besides your own motivation. It's not like you are missing a leg or something that makes it impossible for you to achieve said goals. That testosterone story in the WORST CASE just makes it harder for you than for some others....
but guess what - the more sweat and tears you give for your goals the more you will become what you are aspiring

>The point is that the range is broken.
you seem to misunderstand a) the point of having a range and b) how to use said range as diagnosis tool

you seem to imply that all men have the same treshold of some kind after which we are "high-T" and some magic switch gets flipped inside your brain
you know this value varies from human to human greatly. And since there is no way to say "this is optimum level" you therefore need to consider ranges of blood values (like in any other parameter you can get tested)
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>>1743134
to cont.

you can find some person X with 1/2 T-levels of person Y while having X having no symptomes of lowtest while Y is having them. this not only works with test but pretty much any standard parameter - correct me if i miss something critical.

long story short.
trust your doc - if you don't trust your doc look for another doc you can trust.
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>>1743134
>you seem to imply that all men have the same treshold of some kind after which we are "high-T" and some magic switch gets flipped inside your brain

Obviously it varies but the point is that the range should be tethered to your age group, when it comes to hormones.

How does that not make sense?

>>1743140
The fact is that most doctors don't give a shit, or don't know any better.

You tell them you're having every textbook symptom of low-test, they respond with "Lol ur in range, I don't care about your symptoms, your levels compared to the median male in your agegroup either. muh paper says you're in range so you're in range".

I guess it makes sense why men find it easier to just buy the shit online for a fraction of the cost and no need for prescription or dealing with fucking doctors.
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>>1743095
You failed at the most important part.

Don't be a bitch.
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>>1743134
>you actually do know what you must do to achieve your goals

Yeah I do know.

Buy several vials of testosterone enanthate online and get started.

Thanks. Maybe I'll even get a prescription by purposely bombing my test scores before the blood work, thanks for the tip, man.
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>>1743143
you still are in range when considering your age group
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>>1743149
>you still are in range when considering your age group

but i'm not.

Pic related.
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>>1743152
if u can't read statistics you shouldn't try to soak answers out of them. I know where you got this picture from. Read the whole goddamn paper and cite the right statistic. Maybe then you will understand
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>>1743157
It literally agrees with what i'm saying.

https://www.menshormonalhealth.com/normal-testosterone-levels.html

Depending on the lab your doctor uses, male testosterone levels typically range between 250ng/dl and 850 ng/dl.

As you may well imagine, these ranges are not set to optimal levels. They are from a cross section of men aged 20 to 80; many of whom may be sick or diseased, from a lifetime of unhealthy habits.

If your blood work arrives, and your doctor happens to refuse treatment - even though your levels are close to the bottom of the range; then a gentle reminder of what optimal health entails may be in order.

If you kindly point out, you have the T levels of a sick 80 year old (and feel like one at that); hopefully your doctor will come around.
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>>1743160
Post a legit university research paper or medical journal, not a website with as much credentials as PEGym
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>>1743398
About what?

Do you not see the citation in the chart? Do you think they just made it up?
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Oh jesus, OP do you really think testosterone is the reason why you're big fat loser?

Oh pls just kill yourself already.
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>>1743412
>Unpublished findings
Lol OK
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>>1742981
>I'm low-test as fuck, I feel like it's the only option now. It would probably fix everything else too.

So testosterone made you drop out of high school? Testosterone prohibited you to get up from your big fat lazy ass to get a drivers license? Testosterone made you eat unhealthy and kept you from going to the gym?

Just accept that your a total failure and that it's your fault. If you keep blaming nature for your failures you will never make it.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4190174/

>Our results suggest that the reported increase in the proportion of hypogonadal men with increasing age can be attributed to the increase in variance of testosterone levels with increasing age, as opposed to an age-related decline in testosterone levels for the population as a whole[...]We find no evidence that TT declines in the average case after the age of 40 years for ageing males

too lazy to quote another 500 things
just read the paper
your free levels are totally fine and only your total is on the lower end of the scale
if u actually knew what FREE TEST and TEST means you would 100% see why no doctor with his brain intact would make you take "supplements" or roids or w/e the fuck you think will sort out your problem(s)

whats your SHGB value?
E2 value?

you seem to underestimate how complex your body is.
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>>1742941
Keep lifting.
Try to eat better food. Fresh produce only and food you've cooked from scratch yourself.
Drink only water, no soda or other shit laden with sugar and caffeine.
Find a course that will allow you to re-do your highschool.
Do it well.
Get into college or a trade (trade perferable as college is a meme)

???

Profit

Forget about sex and women for now. It'll come when you've got bux. If it bothers you that much, go fuck a hooker.
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>>1742941
Im curious, how do you know youre low test?
Have you had your test tested?
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>>1744401
nvmd i saw this has already been discussed
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>>1743054
>tfw you realize most of /fit/ posters who have their life in check are also /biz/ posters

who would have thought that the insane discipline, motivation and solid work ethic needed to achieve a shredded body would translate well into the business world ?
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>ITT: OP is a massive faggot
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>>1744377
E2 a little high but in range, shbg idk

Either way I'm buying testosterone enanthate on the internet. Let's see if it makes a difference.
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OP YOURE A FAGGOT

JUST IGNORE EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE DOCTORS, AND TAKE STEROIDS UNTIL YOURE INFERTILE AND HAVE A HEAT ATTACK

also
FUCK OFF TO >>>/fit/
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>>1744441
pretty sure taking a year off-time on heroin is less harmful then what you are planning to do but go ahead.
what makes me pretty mad is that people like you get on the same transplantation waiting list that orderly people get on.
you should be banned life-time from certain procedures just so people like you one time understand there are consequences of your behaviour.


>Let's see if it makes a difference.

you know there is this thing in biochemistry called FEEDBACK

if u permanently supply your body with chemical X that he usually produces in the rate Y ng/day -> that rate Y will decrease over time.
now think about what Y is in your equation.
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>>1744470
Why is it less harmful? Why do you think so?

>transplantation
KEK
Transplant for what? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>1744470
You are so dumb and don't know what you're talking about.

Do androgen receptors down-regulate?

No.In fact, supraphysiological levels of androgens has actually been shown to up-regulate the number of receptors.

thinksteroids.com/articles/androgen-receptor-regulation
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>>1744470
Also lol @ banning people from medical procedures for wanting optimal testosterone levels.

So I can go to a convenience store RIGHT NOW, buy cigarettes and alcohol and have a jolly old time destroying my health and still be fine according to you, but wanting to feel like a man and maybe even build some muscle is too wrong and awful?

You faggots are a joke.
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>>1744475
>>1744482
>>1744490
KYS WITH YOUR STEROIDS FAGGOT

JUST DO IT
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>>1744475
>shown to up-regulate the number of receptors.
honestly are you stupid? what do you think happens when your body produces a substance and you now have MORE receptors to be filled by the same amount of substance. You see where this is goin?
>Why is it less harmful? Why do you think so?
because clean synthetic opioids aren't toxic for your organs and have relatively low halflife time
also there exists antagonists like naloxon.
>buy cigarettes and alcohol and have a jolly old time destroying my health and still be fine according to you
nope - should be on the same list as you should be on
> but wanting to feel like a man and maybe even build some muscle is too wrong and awful?
you haven't done one goddamn thing in your life that shows you have dedication (protip you need that shit) to ANY of your goals. Instead you try to blame it on 1 fucking parameter (out of 3784984568345697834568)
enjoy your livertumors
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>>1744502
>livertumors

Ah yes, good meme

Because that totally happens from brief use and because I OBVIOUSLY won't be getting blood work done before, during and after this 16 week testosterone enanthate cycle I am going to be taking on.

Lmfao kys

This board is retarded and pathetic. Shouldn't you tell me like the guy above? - his "family member" tried one steroid then had 3 consecutive strokes and heart attacks. Lol

You sound like reefer madness
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>>1744506
LOWTEST FAGGOT

WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE

YOU HAVE STEROIDS TO GO BUY

While youre at it, go ask >>>/b/ what they think of your plan. Youll fit right in there
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>>1744506
>Because that totally happens from brief use and

[...]More importantly, therapy with anabolic steroids is linked to a distinctive form of acute cholestasis. The liver injury generally arises within 1 to 4 months of starting therapy [...]
Tumors are typically found after 5 to 15 years of use, but onset within 2 years of starting therapy with testerosterone esters has been described


>The androgens act by engagement of intracellular androgenic steroid receptors which are translocated to the nucleus and attach to androgen response elements on DNA inducing a cassette of androgen stimulated genes that are important in cell growth and development. An unregulated growth stimulus to hepatocytes is the likely cause of nodular regeneration and hepatic tumors related to anabolic steroid use.

>blood work
ihavenowordsforthis.jpg
good luck - you will need it
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>>1744512
Ye sorry

Maybe if my thread was pertaining to day trading like an idiot or buying shitcoind it'd be more relevant

>>1744515
That's for oral steroids, which I will never be using.

>I have no word for this
Why? Because you're a fucking idiot?

You can tell health problems through blood work. If my levels are out of range I'll know I need to dial it back.

Are you so stupid you think all of a sudden your liver explodes and you get multiple heart attacks and then die?

You have blood markers. Blood work shows damage before the symptoms come up.

Dumb faggot
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>>1744526
Literally everyone has told you that youre wrong (including your actual fucking doctors) and WHY your wrong, fucking Dumbass.

You better come back here and tell us how much you fucked up later Faggot, unless you literally kys

You make shitcoiners look smart
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>>1744526
>That's for oral steroids, which I will never be using.

I'll have that written on your grave stone if you don't mind. Hell, i'd even pay every cent of it.

>Why? Because you're a fucking idiot?
yet 1 row later
"If my levels are out of range I'll know I need to dial it back."
That's the way you go with cancer. LIKE LITERALLY ARE YOU THINKING:
"You can get exposed to cancerogen stuff but in the end it's no problem as long as you reduce the exposition in time"

i dunno - i learned concepts in school in 12th grade biology/chemistry that would show you how wrong you are. But instead of relying on those concepts made for 12 year olds you get handed out one paper after another saying basicly you are fucking retarded.
all you then do is post another "steroidblog" and think this is science.

honestly i shouldn't reply anymore as i'm hindering natural selection at this point.
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>>1744545
Except they haven't and you're retarded

>dude ur gonna, like, totally get 10 heart attacks and die! I know because my friend's friend's friend took a steroid with a marijuana and he died! Idk what compounds, dosage or anything else tho
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>>1744550
Liver damage is from long term abuse of oral steroids, considering that's where they need to pass through you fucking idiot

I KBIW I'm arguing with an idiot, but I can't stop replying. I am astonished that /biz/ is this stupid. You are a fucking imbecile

>like u r thinking
NO FUCKING RETARD

IF I USE THEM AND GET BLOOD WORK DONE AND SEE LEVELS OUT OF RANGE

I SEE MY HEAD ANX CONSIDER THAT MAYBE THIS IS A PRECURSOR FOR PROBLEMS. SO I FIX IT

YOU FUXKUNG SHITSTAIN

You stupid fuck

I don't even have words for how retarded you are.

>it's not science

THERE'S NO RESEARCH TO SUPPORT ANY OF YOUR CLAIMS

You fucking moron
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>>1744551
ask yourself. what possible intention could EVERYONE share so everyone has the same answer for your question? Like

a) The-Great-Steroid-Conspiracy (incl. every doc, pubmed and your friendly /biz/nessman)
b) People caring about each others health

now if u think a) then you should really see a doctor but not about your t-levels
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>>1742941
you can fix half of those things on your list within a month
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>>1744561
It's not everyone, it's uneducated people. People are shown how bad it is in media (read: ANY steroid usage is shown as making you a homicidal maniac. Irregardless of whether it be therapeutic doses or professional bodybuilder doses)

When you actually look at the research you cannot find significant risks if you don't have pre-existing conditions and live an otherwise healthy lifesttle.
And by healthy lifestyle I mean regularly exercise (duh), eat well and track your food, be at a healthy bodyfat %, monitor regular blood work, do cardio etc.

It's just not shown to cause any serious problems.

It hasn't been proven. You'll have tremendous difficulty finding that it has. In fact I welcome you to start posting studies you find so I laugh at you by pointing out the tremendously low population size, issues in methodology or inconclusive findings.
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>>1744551
First of all Faggot, Im not the "friend" guy. Im the guy that isnt coddling you and saying that if you want to kys, just fucking do it. Its not going to negatively impact anyone since youre a worthless, insignificant, low test Faggot.

Second, this is you in this thread:
>Could I be wrong?
>No! EVERYONE ELSE must be wrong!
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>>1744571
>Appeal to majority

Ah yes. If a bunch of retards say it must be true

>if you want to kys
I don't and have never felt a desire for suicide before, never will either
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>>1744576
Then go ahead and do it Faggot.

Just come back and post results so we all can laugh at how much you fuck up
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>>1744577
Why would I fuck up?

There's countless stories or how much it turned peoples lives around.

When I get started I won't even come to 4chan anymore. No point talking to losers, not too interested in penny stocks or why everyone who isn't YouTube celebrity is a cuckold.

This board is a joke
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>>1744578
If you have it all figured out, why are you asking a chinese anime forum for life advice?

>This board is a joke
>Says the Faggot that came to a business board for health advice
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>>1744583
I forgot how retarded you idiots were

On /fit/ I got actually good advice, even about roids. You idiots are worthless, maybe if I had a new Pepecoin to shill you'd be of more value

This board is trash.
>make actual thread
>everyone ignores it

>make thread about the latest penny coin
>1000 replies interested in losing their Mommy's allowance
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>>1744590
dude I thought you were a depressed NEET why you playing so armed & dangerous now?

take that fury and direct it toward solving your problems eh?
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>>1744600
Getting into the right mindset
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>>1744590
>Doesnt know how to weed out good info from shit
Might want to stay off there internet, period.

>Thinks making one of the daily "my life sucks because Im a pussy bitch, tell me all the answers" threads is an "actual thread"
>Thinks that youre going to get good HEALTH advice on /BIZ, but were the retards
>Openly rejects any friendly advice contradictary to pre-determined beliefs and becomes hostile
Yes, I was hostile too but I came in late and after reading the thread, you just need a swift kick in the ass
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>>1744611
>good info

The good info here is don't waste time on this shithole
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>>1744616
Keep thinking that, less competition. Youre right that every penny stock and crypto thread is part of the huge shit pile.
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>>1744626
Competing for what exactly lol

Half this board is NEET or in college.
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>>1744578

>This board is a joke

>TFW 22 years old loser
>TFW never graduated highschool
>TFW no drivers license
>TFW shitty, minimum wage part time job
>TFW fat dyel
>TFW low testosterone
>TFW kissless virgin
>TFW trying to lift but it's hardly working


Look, there isn't anything really we can do for you. This board is about business, you haven't even started being a functioning adult yet. That's not our concern. Get off your lazy ass and actually do something and when you come back as an actual functioning human being we can talk about careers, business and all that stuff that frankly, is way out of reach for you at this point.

Most importantly, change your attitude. I'm an employer and honestly I've never called anybody with an attitude like your's back.
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>>1744633
>this board is about business

What business is it about? Do you honestly believe that?

This board was created as a containment board for cryptocurrencies.

>I'm an employer

Being an assistant manager at BurgerKing doesn't count as an employer.
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>>1744631
Less people taking niche markets and services away. Obviously it wouldnt matter if a handful of more people knew what to look for, but itd be flooded if /biz wasnt so full of shit that its hard to find, pretty much impossible as a newfag.

Anything with the words investing or trading in it is a shit thread. The only thing worth the average mans time are long term index funds.

And you can even get good personal device if theres anyone decent online, but only if youre showing a willingness to change (as in, not a waste of time to give advice to), and you arent trying to scapegoat your problems (which is also where your thread went wrong)
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>>1744637
Nope actual business owner who might just sit in front of you at some time in the future while you're sweating your balls off trying to explain why you dropped out of high school.

I've seen kids like you many times before, either they get a grip and turn their life upside-down or they will work minimum wage for the rest of their life.
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>>1744649
Ye

How's that blog plastered in ads coming along?

Real niche market LOL
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>>1744650
Drop shipping on eBay doesn't count as a business.

Minimum wage is more than you make.
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>>1744651
>>1744654
Wrong and wrong, way to newfag it up

This is exactly why youre getting shit on.
Why would anyone give you advice?
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>>1744654
Again, you're making assumptions, actual business with 180 employees. And I'm pretty sure I made more money in the last 2 weeks than you in your entire miserable life.
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>>1744661
Why would I care to take advice from you?

>>1744667
>180 employees

You and Pajeet doesn't add up to 180.
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>>1744669
how much do you make working that part time job and for how long did you work there?
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>>1744669
No no no, you were never going to get advice from ME. You ruined that before I showed up by being a Faggot to everyone else. You clearly showed that you didnt want advice, you only want confirmation. Thats why I tried the swift kick in the ass approach. Now Im just here because Im bored at work and none of the good threads are moving.

Im saying why would ANYONE give you advice with the shitshow youre putting on in this thread?
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>>1744707
this board is useless anyways

One of the worst sources of information. What can i get from here that I can't get from literally any other medium of information?

- youtube channels
- personal finance blogs
- books on finance/econ/accounting/whatever
- investopedia
- wikis for finance

what does this board even offer someone?
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>>1744728
>How does talking to real people compare to doing self research?
The fuck? You really cant figure out the answer to that?
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>>1744735
real retards more like

half this board is unemployed. what's the point of being here at all?
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>>1744743
I'm actually a business person and I'm telling you, you're a failure and it's entirely your fault. But it seems like you don't wanne talk to me so yeah, what's the point of you being here at all?
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>>1744751
Yeah yeah, go work on your dropshipping business

I'm sure you'll finally break $1000 net next month if you work at it
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>>1744756
Already told you that's not the case but you just don't want to hear. Oh and I asked you what money you've made working that part time job and you didn't give an answer.
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Worst of it all: OP is a fucking leaf
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>>1744761
Okay Pajeet, keep at it

I'm sure you'll finally find wealth in shilling cryptocurrencies.

Keep dropshipping Chinese phone cases, you're doing great. Just another 25 years and you'll finally afford to move out of your parents house.
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>>1744743
For you, none.

For people like >>1744751 and me, its a chance to find other knowledgeable people among the 95% of retards, as well as a chance to give advice to people that actually want to better themselves.
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>>1744772
>knowledgable people

in what area? LOL

this board is a joke. Occassionally there's intelligent people who make threads, get no replies after numerous bumps then they post it once or twice more and then end up leaving

This is a containment board for cryptocurrency spam. The knowledgeable people are all on dedicated forums. No retard in his right mind wastes time on an ANIME WEBSITE TO DISCUSS BUSINESS LOL
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>>1744766
Ok let me do the calculation by myself then.

Working minimum wage nets you about $15k-$20k a year depending on which state you live in, you're working part time but let's be generous and assume you make about $10k a year. You're 22 but let's also be generous and say you've worked that job for 4 years already, your total lifetime earnings amount to about $40k.

Here's an excerpt of my cash flow schedule for last year. Statistically it took me less than 3 working days to make what your entire miserable existence amounts to.

So tell me again about me and Pajeet and our dropship operation.
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>>1744796
here's mine faggot

i made more than u in a week
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>>1744781
Like I said, theres nothing here for you if all you see is Crypto and dropshipping. Yes, sometimes good threads get ignored, and yes they move slower. But thats a no fucking shit thing. If there are a lot less good posters than shitposters, then of course theres going to be a lot less good posts.

Now back to >>>/r9k/ with you so you can be with more of your kind. Youre spending an awful lot of time on a board you have "no reason to be on"
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>>1744796
I can make a spreadsheet that says I made a 400 gorillian dollars too.

And in German too, to boot.
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>>1744806
My bad

>>>/b/ is better for you
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>>1744809
Lol go work on your affiliate marketing blog
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>>1744810
Well I've had that discussion before, there's literally nothing I could do or post without somebody claiming I make this shit up so I won't even try.
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>>1744818
Dont have one.

Now gtfo to >>>/b/ with the rest of the low test retards
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>>1744821
yeah well i made over 1.6million in a week
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>>1744824
ill be high test soon

I'm going to cruise on 250mg testosterone-enanthate per week... and there's NOTHING

you can do about it ahahaha
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>>1744829
Remember to post results Faggot
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>>1744832
I will

Doubt anyone would care tho.
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>ITT: OP irrevocably BTFO'ed
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>>1744908
t. the fag lying about his income posting from this phone

lmfao so far i've been btfoing everyone who stepped up
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>>1744915
>lmfao so far i've been btfoing everyone who stepped up
Keep thinking that, kid
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>>1744922
keep getting btfo, fag
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>>1744932
Youre best argument so far has been
>lol, why be on this board, you guys are all dumb
...
As you continue to spend hours on this board... yeah...

Which itself is a strawman you had to create to change the subject from the original topic
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>>1744940
yeah this board is shit
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>>1744942
Way to prove the point of the post.

Im really BTFO by you verifying what I just said
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>>1744915
That was my first post in this thread.
I just got here. Youre a retarded troll.
End yourself already, please?
One less of these shit threads with you gone for good.
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>>1744958
Oh sorry, need to make more room for the newest wojakcoin or whatever shill thread?

this board is a fucking joke lmfao
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>>1744796
In welchem Bereich biste aktiv?
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