/asg/ - airsoft general

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In the milsim events I've gone to we would just use very specific Radio channels. No need to make up codes since weaponized autism that could play intel support/sabotage isn't used in short ops anyways.

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>tfw nobody makes a blowback SIG 1911 besides Western Arms
>tfw all their models under $250 are discontinued and sold out aside from one and it's an ugly nickel played version
>tfw they still make one model and it's literally your ideal pistol in every single way but it costs nearly $500

Why is life so cruel?

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>>2613916
What does /asp/ use for elbow pads?

>>2613973
>not willing to spend the price of two sub-par pistols on a literally ideal pistol in every single way
Life is so cruel because you're a tremendous faggot who wastes their money on sub-par shit instead of saving up to buy right the first time.

>>2614124
Nothing, but I use welders kneepads because I play in New England where every 3 feet there's a piece of solid granite or bramble patch

>>2614132
Hey now not everyone has the benefit of having been in airsoft long enough to have learned the hard way when buying airsoft guns. I'm sure most people here have *that* gun they've bought and regretted due to it being a cheap piece of shit.

http://www.evike.com/products/37497/

Opinion on this, I asked in the last thread but asking again because no replies.

I just want something cheap to fuck around with whenever I get bored with my AEG. Maybe play around or two with this as my primary weapon.

>>2614400
Had a guy playing as a medic with that thing. He wore a cowboy hat and UCP. It was hilarious, I don't know if it was any good but it looked fun to play with

>>2614400
There's been a reputation with them being finicky and somewhat unreliable with no replacement parts whatsoever, but then again it's the only lever action you're going to find.

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Daily reminder to overshoot females.

>>2614400
They break pretty fast. Awesome while they work though

Gotta quick question:
What do ya'll think about the various Makarov pistols that are available; what are the good, the bad, and the ugly?

>>2614647
one kid where i play has one. he likes it. thats all i know, however. i think his is wetech

>>2614540
I hear they like it, even from guys that look like you

>>2614484
>>2614558

I could probably pick it up for around 100 with shipping so I figured not a huge loss

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>tfw finally hasguns

when the hell is the Tokyo Marui M45A1 coming out

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Alright /asg/ i'm looking for a solid AEG G36C that can take STANAG mags for under $300. I don't want something like the ICS ones because of the fucked up aesthetics.

Suggestions?

>>2614925
Second hand JG with an adapter.

>>2614124
My kit doesn't call for elbow pads

>>2614940
>kit
maximum autism

Nigga, we barely maintain passable radio connection, I doubt half of those retards I play with would understand any sort of cypher.

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>>2614760
Is that a filter or is your sling actually RED?

>>2615046
kit, loadout, rig; those are all used commonly.

>>2615513
As much as I like airsoft, the amount of retards playing always surprises me. There is usually some dude who just won't stop yammering on about how the other team doesn't call their hits despite his gun not hitting a barn from the inside, or about how college degrees will become equal to 3yrs otj training, how politician xy is doing z wrong and if only technology l had been invented hitler would have won WWII.
Apparently running an AS-Shop is the worst possible thing to do because of all the tards.

>>2616209
This is why I'm glad I play in New Hampshire where every other guy is in the military or police and its people just using their land for the fun of the sport.

>>2616209
>how college degrees will become equal to 3yrs otj training, how politician xy is doing z wrong and if only technology l had been invented hitler would have won WWII.
That' just ordinary people doing ordinary people things.

>>2616209
Airsoft has a broad appeal, it seems to attract nerdy smart types just as much as the developmentally challenged.

Though the nerds are far easier to tolerate, and most drama seems to stem from the window licking brigade.

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I'm getting a real hankering for a FAMAS.

The best option seems to be the CYMA, who are the OEM for Cybergun, but I don't want to pay those cunts, so does anyone know where to get hold of the CYMA ones? Seems they were about a couple of years ago.

>>2616209
>Apparently running an AS-Shop is the worst possible thing to do because of all the tards.

I'm a former shop worker / shitqb field ref. can confirm. All the other shit that comes with it doesn't help either.

>>2615714

yeah, it was on discount. 'instructor red' was the color name.

does the cyma AK74u use different magazines than the other cyma AKs? i bought a number of cyma brand ak74 hicap mags and they don't fit my gun.

anyone try the CM030 CYMA G18c? my friend needs a sidearm and it seemed fun

>>2616993
no. I have the CM040C and my friend has the CM045 ak74u and we trade mags

>>2617001

http://www.evike.com/products/29169/

these are the mags i bought and they won't click in at all. unless you have to seriously smash them in there with i doubt.

>>2617042
That looks a lot like the mags they ship with so I don't know why it wouldn't work. Maybe it is just defective and you should ship it back

http://www.evike.com/products/25405/

I have these and they are ok. They work with either gun too

>>2616999
It's weak and inaccurate, arguably if would be better just to carry more mags for your primary instead.

But it's good fun, nonetheless.

>>2617069
Is it full auto? I think he was picturing it as a safe CQB FPS room clearing gun, because his primary is already pretty nimble.

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>>2617064

the left mag is the aftermarket and the right is the original. i check all the mags i bought and they are all identical.

>>2617082
It is full auto, but given that trigger response is important in CQB, it's not that useful i.e. it has a small motor, and little battery.

It's a kind of alternative to a GBB pistol though, if he can't be bothered to mess about with gas guns.

>>2614132
>having no qualms about buying a $500 toy gun

I'm not a rich anon.

>>2617096
the ones I linked have a wide lip like the original. you may just want to send those aftermarkets back my dude

>>2617107
we like CO2 but haven't decided if we want to get into other gases yet

>>2617123

i was planning on it. i was just pissed because evike listed the incompatible ones i bought in the 'you may also want' tab.

>>2617131
yeah, it is really obnoxious how much research you have to do to get anything to work right, and even when you do your homework it can still be a pile of shit

>>2617148
yeah, i also have to get a different charger because the 9.4v uses a different plug, and it seems like evike really upcharges on their chargers to make up for the low price of their guns. the same charger on there for 36 bucks is 15 bucks on amazon.

>>2616746
I think Cyma only sell them to Cybergun now, so you may not have any choice but to buy Cybergun.

Just bear in mind that they don't accept STANAG magazines without modification, and TM midcaps are pretty pricey these days.

Are there any alternatives to TM 870 as far as gas shotguns go? I want a gas shotgun but I'm not really looking forward to dropping 400 burger schekels on one.

>>2616993
Shorten the mag release with a file

>>2617371
You can buy chin copies for 200$ and then spend 200$ to make it reliable until the externals crumble.

>>2617380
From what I've seen the TM M870 gas reservoir shits its pants on propane/green gas, so if the chink copy can hold gas better, then why not?

I know a couple of people who returned their M870s, which is pretty rare for TM stuff.

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>>2617380
Haven't seen any chink 870s that aren't shell ejecting. Got any links?

>>2616837
>Getting paid to play for free
>showing new people the right things and making them love airsoft
>Bad

It must have been sooooooo hard.

>>2617316
Didn't the FAMAS and AUG require mods to both the gun and the mags?

>>2617107
>is full auto, but given that trigger response is important in CQB, it's not that useful i.e. it has a small motor, and little battery.
Just use lipos lol.

Can you remind me the procedure for getting an actually good main gun out of it? An extended barrel hidden by a fake silencer, cut down spring rifle spring, better gears, R hop, what else?

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>>2617467
http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p33217/Golden-Eagle-M870-Tactical-Gas-Pump-Action-Shotgun-(Black)/product_info.html

>>2617535
>Paid to play for free

Refs play, do they? Why would any shop pay you to play on their field? Are you fucking retarded?

>>2617535
It's about the same job as middle school teacher. Low pay, lots of kids with attitude issues and he said she said drama. Too much stuff to handle, so little to no time to play.

Several of my friends are refs. All of them hate it.

>>2617602
So it's basically a TM copy right? Haven't heard anything about Golden Eagle though. Sounds shit and I assume it's shit right?

>>2617618
Golden eage is JG.

>>2617623
So in theory it shouldn't be that awful. I'd like to hear some firsthand opinions though as well as from the anon who said his friends returned their 870s. I'd like to know what broke in their's.

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>>2617618
From what I've heard it isn't bad (considering its a clone), but then the original TM design isn't that durable, so you can't expect too much.

If I wanted a headache-free shotgun, I'd probably get one of those CYMA spring shotguns.

>>2617535
>>Getting paid to play for free
lol The pay was beyond laughable.You'd make more collecting cans on the side of the road. As far as playing goes. No you don't get to play. You're busy trying to get the heavily abused rentals and shitty 9.6v batteries to work, cleaning, or listening to the players bitch the don't want to play TDM. (they're too stupid to play anything else.) On sunday, when you want to go play outdoor with all your friends, and 189 people show up, you'll be tasked with running the indoor field for 2-4 people, because no one else is stupid enough to work in a shitqb field for any amount of time.

>>showing new people the right things and making them love airsoft
Little fucks rarely listened. Even if you told them what not to buy, little xXJonnycbqkiller1Xx would get what he though was cool, and his parent that just bought it for him would come back a few days later screaming.

tl;dr: never get a job at an airsoft shop / field. the hours a long, the pay is horrible, and the amount of bullshit you'll have to put up with doesn't come close to the very few and far between perks you sometimes get.

Will answer any other questions.

>>2617593
Yeah, the FAMAS requires material removed from inside the magwell. A pain in the neck, but everything about airsoft FAMAS' is a pain.

>>2617669
Springers are an option but I'm particularly looking for a gas one because of ease of chambering and nice racking sound being a bonus. On that note though - TMs aren't durable? Here I thought since they're metal they'd be decent.

>>2617675
>would come back a few days later screaming.
How? Why? If you instructed them not to do something, and they did it, how could they be mad at you?

>>2617684
As far as TM guns go, the 870 is not their best.

Issues with the pumping mechanism + feeding seem common, and a lot of people had problems with leaks and swelling gas tanks.

To be fair though, it was TM's first gas shotgun, so it was bound to have some teething issues, and in any case there are plenty of guides out there to help remedy and avoid common problems with it. I just get the impression that it's not entirely worth the money.

>>2617724
Is there anything better than the TM 870 then or is it the best out there regardless?

>>2617111
>having no qualms about buying a $250 toy gun
This is why you aren't rich, anon.

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>>2617786
I'm not following

>>2617724
Best of a bad bunch, airsoft shotguns aren't great in general. But the TM 870 is by far the most skirmishable.

>>2617989
Shotgun AEGs are slowly becoming a thing now so soon we may see the rise of the scattergun. Once some chinks make an AA12 clone which runs Lipos it will begin.

>>2618043
The TM aa12 looks like more of a clusterfuck than anything else on the inside. I wonder if someone will find a way to simply the AEG trishot.

>>2618070
Probably a single barrel and a hop up which intentionally shoots out multiple rounds at a time instead of it being because of you acting like a retard.

>>2617801
You're still spending hundreds of dollars on a toy gun, but it's not actually the toy gun you want, so you're liable to buy more multi-hundred dollar toy guns to compensate for or replace it in the future. Just save up and buy right the first time.

>>2617158
Don't buy your batteries and chargers from airsoft shops as they overcharge. You can change connectors or use adapters, why the hell would you buy a new charger?

>>2617593
AUG uses completely different mags. Its like trying to fit a STANAG in AK.

>>2616746
Your only choice is to get one imported from Asia, and that rate you'd be paying as much as a Cybergun model.

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>>2614124
>Elbow pads
Really my dude? I can get knee pads, especially so if you play CQB, but elbow pads are pretty useless.

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>>2618323
I mostly want them for long hours of pic related on concrete, but I figured I might as well get ones good enough for paintball style diving and crawling over rocks and hard surfaces.

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>>2618381
>paintball style diving
pic related

>>2614647
I have a WE Makarov, I haven't used it a whole lot yet so I can't speak to long term reliability (though it's WE so you can probably guess) but as far as feel and function goes it's probably my best WE pistol. It's really the only "good" blowback option currently that I'm aware of, the KWC is a literal piece of garbage, I was stupid and bought one and luckily the store tested it a few shots and it broke during testing so they just gave me my money back. It being a WE I would say that, as a pistol to be used as often as pistols get used on the field it'll probably do fine, but if you run your pistols a lot and hard expect it to eventually fuck up because it's a WE.

>>2616993
AK mags can at times be a fuckery, I changed the hop ups in my Cyma AK47 and AKS-74U to Lonex ones, and the AK47 that once took the regular Cyma metal midcaps couldn't even accept filed ones, but King Arms midcaps were drop in fits. My AKS works properly with MAG brand midcaps, and did before the hop up was changed. So there are times you just have to fuck around, I won't even get into trying to buy mags to swap between different companies for AK's.

>>2618647

yeah they make it seem like all these mags are compatible with different guns yet people keep saying i need to file this and that down.

Can anyone confirm if the WE M92 has full auto?

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>>2615046
Well what do you call yours? Dress? Are you a pretty princess?

>>2618155
Well the point is I could get a TM that

A) Will be a better gun for skirmishing
B) Isn't proprietary

For about 1/4 the price of the WA

>>2618803
>TM better for skirmishing
I guess that means the WA isn't actually
>literally your ideal pistol in every single way

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>>2613916
/k/ here. Does anyone make a good SIG SG 510 (Sturmgewehr 57, a Swiss service battle rifle)? I want a real steel one to go with my alpenflage, but since the Sig AMT (US civilian import version of the STG 57) is unobtanium I figured I'd get a replica placeholder for now.

Pic related, my Swiss M71 helmet. The alpenflage helmet cover should be here Monday.

>>2619317
Unfortunately not, there's not a single Stgw57 replica on the market. You might be able to get a demilitarized deco gun somewhere from Europe, Asia or maybe even in the US. However, G&G produces high quality vanilla Stgw90 replicas and their derivatives (SG 552/3), and King Arms made the SIG 556 and 556 Shorty a little while ago.

[spoiler]If you really want one THAT bad, import one directly from Switzerland, there are vanilla, semi-locked SIG 510 rifles for civvies/sporters/etc. , if you have the dosh that is.[/spoiler]

>>2614925
Jing Gong has released their second generation of G36 rifles, which have an adjustable quick change spring guide and a very nice polymer finish, while being fully TM compatible, and are under 200 DOLLARIDOOS (check gunfire.pl for instance). Even out of the box, they are more than a match for the "premium brand" G36 rifles which are currently on the market. Get a STANAG magwell, and you're all set.

Jing Gong also sells additional, affordable externals for the rifles (2nd version of the export stock and scope w/ rail), so you can convert between all versions of the G36, for an relatively low price.

>>2619359
>If you really want one THAT bad, import one directly from Switzerland
That's not how firearm importation works my dude.

>>2617601
Pls respond

>>2618684
The most recent iteration does.

The older ones did sometimes, but not by design.

>>2618887
Maybe you're right anon, maybe you're right.

>>2619778
Anonymous strangers on 4chan are always right, no "maybe" about it.

what actioncams would you guys get and use for this God forsaken hobby?
I'd get a Xiaomi Yi for the WiFi/Bluetooth, but shit doesn't have any solid protection like GoPros or Mobius does.

>>2619826
They don't make protective covers that you can buy for it?

>>2619826
i just use a gopro hero black, haven't been down to the local field at all to record a game for months now

>>2619855
Looked a little bit and they make some better aluminum ones with lens covers that I assume are easy to replace.
I'd have to get an adapter for GoPro mounts if I wanted to wear it on my baseball cap, but I'm pretty much set to get it now.
>>2619875
Knowing me I'll probably mostly use it on my bicycle, walks with dog and maybe as a dashcam in car, but I do like the idea of having it mounted. Would give me some drive to plink and wear my gear more often because I'm a huge attention whore at heart.

>>2619888
>maybe as a dashcam in car
i've considered doing this, but the black really loves to overheat. when driving on the highway, i noticed the gopro would freeze at around 10 minutes worth of 4k video recorded, needing a forced restart in which it would fix the files and etc. I don't know how to remedy this and afaik there isn't a fix for it. For how small it is it gets really fucking hot

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>>2618688
>He doesn't agonize over which pretty dress he's going to wear to the BBprom.
It's like you WANT everyone to think you're poor and uncool.

>>2619359
>Dude just import a gun lmao
Even in burgertown its not that simple

>>2619826
I used a rifle mounted knockoff Chinese GoPro, works just as well the real thing, plus if you bust it or lose it, it doesn't break the bank.

Case in point, mine was seized by the police as evidence, but it was only about $50, so it's no biggy.

i have a drone and i've thought about using it at airsoft fields.
are people just going to shoot at it?

I know the UK has laws requiring anyone without a UKARA to use two tone, but do they allow black guns as long as you have an orange tip?

>>2620412
Tell the marshals to announce before the game that your drone will be flying about during

The rest is a matter of trust

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>>2620412
I know I would.
I always target the cameras too. That's why we make our guns accurate.

>>2620418

desu im wondering how much the wind created by the propellers would effect incoming BBs.

also the camera and the drone itself are really small, and i generally keep it at above 100 ft so it would be pretty fucking hard to shoot.

>>2620412
High level van, then now high level drone. wtf bro?

>>2620416
There's no legislation that states orange tips are a requirement in the UK. I think that's just in the US.

>>2620412
I once accidentally shot the site's drone.

It was taking some action shots, and I managed to down it.

The marshalls were pretty pissed (didn't know it was me who had done it though). But in my defence, I saw movement behind a bush, and that was the direction of enemy, so I laced it.

>>2620524

if they're flying drones that low, its on them.

>>2620418
At most places thats a ban without refund offense. It's similar to grabbing someones airsoft gun and throwing it.

>>2620620
>Ram a drone into some kid you don't like
>ban him because he destroyed it

>grab someone's KWA with a LiPo
>throw it
>it explodes
>you just saved a kid's life
>get banned
wtf is wrong with field marshalls

>>2620524
It's his fault for not mentioning a drone on site during games. Unless he is doing dirty deeds that he can't mention about.

>>2620700
>Unless he is doing dirty deeds

what like videotaping underage children shooting eachother with toy guns? the fiend.

>>2620711
what if they're just in speedos haha
that would be a funny scenario haha

>be me
>wanting to buy into the designated marksman meme
>have lots of spare dosh
>want to be a snowflake
>"haha yeah SVDs seem fun!"
>buy CYMA SVD, wolverine hydra PDR kit, special nozzle for SVD
>put it all together under the guidance of a few tech friends
>shit's DOA because it's not working
>well shit
>send it to wolverine, plan on just throwing money at the issue until it goes away
>send it off to wolverine
>refinish and restain the wood in the meantime
>it looks real pretty
>now i'm waiting for this fucking SVD
>be now, month and a half later
>call them last friday
>"yeah our tech isn't in right now, i'll give him your number and have him call you"
>week later
>no calls
>call them myself about 20 minutes ago
>get the tech on the line
>"yeah we get like two to three guns a day and since your gun is an SVD one of our senior techs or whatever wants to do it himself, he can do it as soon as he gets back"
>"okay when does he get back?"
>"today"

I have a feeling I'm not going to see this gun for another month.

>>2620977

im under the impression that sniping in airsoft is a giant meme

>>2620424
>desu im wondering how much the wind created by the propellers would effect incoming BBs.

it wouldn't.

>>2620987

if you were shooting up at a drone 100+ feet in the air i'd imagine the propeller turbulence would have some effect.

shit i could fly it at 200+ feet and still be able to clearly see people moving below.

>>2620983
Depends on the rules.
If your AR15 suddenly gets to have +100 FPS than the other AR15 just because you have a scope and use semi-auto, then DMRs are OP as fuck.

>>2620983
The only non meme AEG configurations are RPK/light SAWs for games with full auto restrictions and high torque motor carbines.
>>2621022
Games that have DMR rules usually have SAW rules. I've rarely seen DMRs make any difference in comparison to having a dedicated SAW in your squad.

Bought an HFC NBB M712 with a short mag from EBay. Got the mag in today, waiting on the gun now. Did I do bad or is it alright

>>2621026
Honestly DMRs and sniping really are memes, because while BBs are fast as shit you still get some time to step out of the way and in that time some dude could adjust slightly and throw your shit off. DMRs are a little better because some have full auto capabilities but still the problem persists

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>>2621082

maybe if they could make something like the tornado, but faster. this thing was spot on accurate at long range, though wind would fuck it up pretty bad.

>>2621106
Horizontal spin? You'd need a hop up unit connected to the motor to pull that off properly.

>>2620412
If you're using it for action shots then you're okay. Refs might not allow you to use it like a UAV in cawadooty though.

>>2620424
>desu im wondering how much the wind created by the propellers would effect incoming BBs.
Just use .35 bbs you spook.

>>2621026
>high torque motor carbines.
What advantage do you get from an high torque motor? More ROF?

>>2621270
>Not having a midcap full of metal bbs to fuck up drones with

>>2621309
Wouldn't those fuck up the hopup on top of having terrible ballistics? I suggest using heavy bbs because wind won't move them as much as plebshit .20s. Also you just gave me an idea, loading GL shells with ball bearings.

>>2621489
Subbed :^)

>>2621528
I guess it a blogpost on second thought.

When's the right time/season to buy used Airsoft gats?

>>2621280
Trigger response

>>2617042
I have a few of those from before I figured out that hi-caps aren't as desirable as mid-caps. You really have to get them in there, but they will work. I'm using a CM040B for reference.

That said, I have them sitting in a pile, forgotten on my desk, in favor of G&P mid-caps.

>>2617692
Because they're kids, they tend to be retarded like that

>>2617675
Did you happen to work at Cumbutt Shitty in Orlando?

>tfw thinking about getting into airsoft
>Youtube videos are 10% cool stuff, 30% ultra-tryhard kids ordering each other around, and 60% people complaining about others airsofters.
>People dropping insane amounts of money on actual military gear that they have no real use for.
>Airsoft guns more expensive than actual guns.

I just want a chill game where I can roleplay my SHTF innawoods fantasies without committing a load of felonies.
A gun review not narrated by a child or a store owner trying to sell me something would be nice too.

>>2621729
From what little experience I have it seems that people that take airsoft seriously and are part of clubs play during every season except summer, and most of the fags that play only occasionally play almost exclusively in spring/summer.

>>2621729
I'd have to say in late fall and early winter. Late winter is obviously Christmas and Hanukkah season so people will be buying and not selling, while spring and summer is the time when a lot of places in the Northern Hemisphere get their nice weather so people will be buying there too.

>>2622696
Those are exactly the worst possible moments to buy and the best possible moments to sell then.

>>2622706
And that's why I never got into stocks.

>>2622710
It's not really that hard - if demand is low and offer is high prices go down, if demand is high and offer is low, prices go up.
For example where I live it'd be a good idea to buy AEGs and other gear from clubfags in summer because few of them keep playing and the ones that aren't economically well off want to have money for summer things. On the contrary, you want to buy from those that are not part of clubs in winter, because they 1. tend to be soft faggots that are afraid of cold and rain and therefore won't need their guns and 2. they're usually underage fags that have no jobs and need money for their underage fag dumb shit. The problem is that you need to know them as they usually don't bother with forums but rather sell via word of mouth, and most of the stuff they use is stock chink shit, and sometimes even worse, chink shit with stupid upgrades (an example would be an M4 with a cheap ACOG meant for playing on woodlands that has a high speed motor).

>>2622637

you forgot to mention that half of all of those videos are either russian or portugeses or something.

>>2622637
Airsoft relies on the community a lot.
Asses that first, because on paper, you can play airsoft however the fuck you want and it'll work. It just draws a lot of retards, kind of like Minecraft.

>>2622637
>Caring about the youtube portion of the community

Even the 'celebrities' are fucking trash mate, don't bother with any of that. Any good review you'll find will be in text on a forum, where other people are also giving feedback. Watching a 12 year old stumble through a review(with his only point being "it's cool and shoots", despite it being a shitty WE or something) won't help you, so stop it with the youtube shit.

>People dropping insane amounts of money on actual military gear that they have no real use for.

You find shit like this in every hobby. People want pretty and are willing to pay out the ass for it.

>Airsoft guns more expensive than actual guns.

...yeah. I fucking hate this too. I'd like to have spent my money on real gunz but Canada has some really shitty gun bans sometimes based on how a gun looks. I will have to settle with toy gunz until someone gets their shit together up here.

>>2622637
>>People dropping insane amounts of money on actual military gear that they have no real use for.
That's unironically my hobby

>>2623058
You know, as long as you don't think buying expensive gear makes you some kind of hardcore operator, I don't see a problem with it.

>>2622637
Where the hell do you live where bbgats cost more than the real thing? ARs are like from $700 to over a grand, while an AEG AR is under $300.

>>2623661
Places like canada sell SKSs for $300. I'm sure you can find plenty of real guns in the states for that price or less

>>2623661
An airsoft Mosin costs much more than a real one. Systema's memetastic shit costs much more than the real counterpart. Even chinkshit can cost as much as the real deal if you do extensive modding.

>>2623661

ARs are in the 500s these days, about the same price as a high-end airsoft AR and lets not even talk about the price of GBB magazines

>>2623743
>>2623723
Economy of scale and all that.

As much as airsoft has grown over the last decade, it's still a niche hobby, and the manufacturers that make guns are still small.

>>2613916
WE G26 looks cute af.
Anyone got one?

>>2623743
Shitty ARs are in the 500s these days. If you're paying $500 for an airsoft AR, you're getting a top-end airsoft gun.

>>2620412
i hope it does. 811 does that at my local field. they say "it's just for taking footage." But when i go to my car to get some shit, there is the guy flying it right outside the entrance to the field calling out the positions of people and key targets. they also threaten to have people arrested if they shoot at it. fuck them man. bunch of cocksuckers.

>>2613916
I've resprayed my gun and now need to repaint the sights on. What's best to use?

>>2624261
>As much as airsoft has grown over the last decade
I feel like in recent years it has died down quite a bit. around 2013 it seems to have slowed down a good bit (i worked in a airsoft shop.) After Sandy hoax it just was never the same.

>>2624439
Black matte car paint

>>2624439
Get a white paint pen from a local craft store.

>>2624423
Is this the same team that pulled that "High Level Truck" bulshit?

Do you guys ever notice people you down just staring at you while calling medic? This guy today did it to me like 6 times, and sometimes he would lock eyes with his medic then turn and stare at where I was. I know he was signaling

>>2624301
M&P-15s aren't shitty, they're just average.

>>2625113
You know what to do.

>>2625257
I waited till his medic came and mag dumped them while they used him as a shield. I figured that made us even

>>2625268
I hope you shot every centimeter of skin they left exposed.

>>2620983
Kinda.
>>2620977
Kek
What a great feeling when you know personally a master who does airsoft works cheaper than large shops do and does everything right.
>>2621022
>If your AR15 suddenly gets to have +100 FPS than the other AR15 just because you have a scope and use semi-auto, then DMRs are OP as fuck.
Why would anyone make semi-autos weaker than BA rifles? I mean, IRL they don't differ that much, just SARs are less accurate. And they don't have much of advantages over MGs and well-modified ARs.
>>2621280
>More ROF
You get more ROF with more powerful battery

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>airsoft

>>2625843
You jest, but it doesn't make it any less true. We are heroes, ultimate heroes.

>>2625843
I've order 66'd some tryhards like that at a milsim op once. Just shot through the bushes into them. Oopsy friendly fire :^)

So, are there any WWII BASRs, which can shoot around 557,7 FPS and be reliable?

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>>2625843
Semper-fi

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I sold my core kit away two years ago, but now that my wallet is heavy again I started looking at the stuff shops have and I suddenly got a boner for the SRC M416 gen III.

Yay or nay?

>>2625843
God this image never gets old. The best part is it was made as a joke, but turbo autismos are using it un-ironically now.

>>2626476
Can you even get new SRC guns anymore?

>>2626718
I dunno, the shop I'm looking at got them in like 3 months ago according to their newsletter, and they have a good number in stock compared to the rest of their wares. I'm not very updated on airsoft since I stopped playing years ago, don't they make SRC anymore or something?

http://www.rodastjarnan.com/airsoft/airsoft/src-m416-d145f-gen-iii-18804

The company seem to like the brand a lot, writing down more detailed descriptions than the rest about how many pros it has. They are more trustworthy than any other company here, but I do want to hear some second opinions first. I'm willing to put down the cash on a more high end product, if that is what I get.

Hey /asp/ long time no see.

Two questions,

First, I bought a Specna Arms M4 and upgraded the hell out of it. I bought 10 Ares plastic midcaps that feed perfectly but I was eager to buy some metal ones. I bought about 3 G&P mags but they don't fit. Does any one know which ones do? I don't want to buy more to find out they don't fit either.

Second, does any one know a good smaller pistol that goes well with my P90? I own a TM 1911 pistol but it's rather large in size.

>>2627082
>Second, does any one know a good smaller pistol that goes well with my P90? I own a TM 1911 pistol but it's rather large in size.

Aesthetically?

Just get whatever European style based model. Glock 17 as an example, its from the same design category and age.

>>2627108

Alright that's all I needed to hear. Thanks.

>>2627166
Not an entirely stupid question mate.

M1911 is from the analog age, P90 and Glock 17 from the cyber age.

Big design differences. You cant run around with ill matching equipment and gear, there is style guidelines to observe while shooting 12 year olds.

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>>2626718
Their facefuck page seems pretty active.
I'd never heard much about them. I don't think I've ever knowingly come across one of their guns either, but they've been around for a while, and their still bringing out new stuff.

>>2626793
They look legit, but even if their guns suck, who leaves their AEG stock? As long as you like the look of the gun, go for it (provided it's not got proprietary anything).

>>2627278
I really liked the aesthetics of it (straight rail lines that cut off at half barrel, original AR-15 buttstock, mostly aluminum and steel parts). Think I'll go in tomorrow and feel it out.

By the way, if I run it stock for the time being, should I go with 7,4V LiPo or a 9,6V NiMh?

Or just replace the spring with the included M120 directly and go get a 11,4V LiPo since I'm going inna woods anyway?

are sidearms a meme?

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>>2627476
>long range trim on main weapon
>cqb legal trim on sidearm for clearing rooms

50% of the time your main weapon fails you will probably die before having time to switch, so not really good for back up intention.

If you get a total break down at a field, its good to have but it might be to underwhelming at certain fields as your main weapon.

You should focus on your main weapon and your gear before a sidearm, I think.

>>2627476
Sidearms are holster queens mostly unless you do lots of CQB, but having a gun ready to go in case mine has an issue on the field is an asset I've used before.
>>2627538
>50% of the time your main weapon fails you will probably die before having time to switch, so not really good for back up intention.
Never had this issue myself. Most of the time I have plenty of time to take the 4-5 seconds it takes to put my main down and draw.

>>2627476
I love using my pistol to clear tight areas, and I hardly notice wearing it. I only removed it this weekend because the place was a swamp and I didn't want it to be covered in mud

is AOE a meme?

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>>2627476
Its really a personal affair that people have.
Some people carry them, some don't.
Personally i always carry mine cause it just "feels" right. My field has a Min. Engagement of 15 feet with rifles, but only 5 ft with pistol, and a pistol is significantly easier to bend a corner with than a rifle. In this case its also great for being able to ambush opponents coming around a corner, since you can shoot within those 15 feet, and they will not.(assuming they follow the rules.)
The upside to a pistol is that you have one hand free, so you can have a primed grenade, or have the ability to climb an object while still having a way to deal with an attacker without having to grab your gun from another side of the wall or need to bring it forward from your back.
As far as a back up in case of primary failure, I've had a gun jam on me, run out out of battery, fuze come loose, run out of bbs in my mags and I've resorted to using a pistol to finish a game. Kinda fun to do too when you've spent 1000 bbs in a game, and then your down to your pistol trying capture that flag, take down that last opponent, push that last building before time runs out.

>>2627414
I wouldn't bother with NimHs at all.

Whether you replace the spring is entirely down to you, but if you do, and end up running an 11.4, then you ought to get a Mosfet.

>>2627082
File the mags to fit your receiver.

What would I need to upgrade in order to have very fast trigger response? Torque motor, low ratio gears, 11.4 LiPo battery and what else, also what kind of mosfet should I install in order not to burn out contact? Also what is the best way to get a hair trigger, as in, least effort intensive?

>>2628651
High TPA motor, 10 - 14 :1 gears, DSG, high voltage, high amperage, precocking.
BTC Spectre, Chimera, Gate Titan and Jefftron FCU have microswitches for hair triggers. All of them can precock your piston too. If you'd rather not spend an arm and a leg for slightly shorter trigger pull, you can buy whichever 3034 based mosfet.

>>2628219
No. Couple years ago, a friend of mine broke 3 15T pistons in one summer because his gun didn't have the correct AoE. He's still running the same piston that was installed when I corrected it.

>>2617001
How do you like the ak cm040 ? Is it easy to upgrade ?

>>2628702
>DSG
What is that?

Also, thanks. What stuff would I have to get in order to achieve the same on a shitty AEP?

>>2628811
Cymas 04X and up are great. Very easy to find upgrade parts but if you're going to gut one I'd recommend just saving up for an E&L or LCT

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>>2628819
Double sector gear. Doubles your RPS and makes semi incredibly snappy. I did some comparisons a while ago. For 12:1 + 28/32TPA Frankentorque it took 0,04s to complete a cycle. For 16:1 DSG + 28TPA Frankentorque, it took on average 0,025s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGM-4miwAEQ

>>2628811
They're okay, but nowhere near perfect. They wobble a lot and their bearings are too fat to shim them well. They do have non-linear spring and sometimes you might get a very high torque neomotor. If you can extend your budget a little bit, I'd suggest Force Core / Spartan Delta AKs. They are miles ahead of Cyma.

>>2628811
mine is stock atm and treats me well. I haven't had it long enough to really gauge its long-term value though

>>2627082
Glock 26

>>2627476
Side arms are the only reason I joined the Airsoft community. I'm a Britcuck so a full metal gas blow back is the closest I can get to a real steal of my favourite pistols

>>2627082
A Five-seveN just to match

>>2627476
Depends on your field and rules.
If it's open ground everywhere, chances are you'll never use your sidearm unless you are desperate to do so.
Mixed terrain with high outdoors limits and 350FPS limits indoors? I'd say a sidearm is mandatory unless you don't want to enter buildings because whatever.
CQB with lots of hallways and rewarding high mag capacity? It's good to have, but you can probably just carry a couple mags more for your main gun.
Tight CQB? Primary and sidearm switch places, unless you run some pistol AR15 tbqh.

Any recommended chink sight or budget red dot sight at >70€?

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>>2628434
Alright then, I think I got a decent plan for purchase now.

I'll go with a 7,4V LiPo to run it in first, and then do a big upgrade later on.

Thanks mate!

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>>2624448
>around 2013 it seems to have slowed down a good bit
Huh, around 2013-14 is when I stopped playing. Local field was getting shitty and AS is a money pit in general. I get the urge to get back into it but I need a better field.
Have gas guns gotten any better or cheaper? I sold my AEG G&P M4, kept my Cyma AK but dealing with batteries and other assorted problems was such a drag. The stick lipo's that fit in AK's didn't last long for me.
Before I stopped playing I was seriously considering a WE XM177 or M16A1 GBBR. I feel like the added fun of gas would outweigh the magazine/ROF drawbacks compared to AEG's but it was pretty pricey.

>>2629788
As a battery fan you could get a gun like the magpul moe where you can fit a lipo nunchuck battery in the handguard and play for days.

>>2629193
This

>>2629788
GHK AKs are nice as long as their stock internals don't start breaking because that's what happened to mine - right now it's on a failure spree and every single small bit breaks one after another. I also have a WE M16A3 GBBR but since it's a piece of shit with green gas I just HPA tapped the fucker. When it works as in something doesn't break inside it's a cool gun. Not very effective because I haven't dumped any dosh into efficiency upgrades but durability upgrades only so far. Recoil more than makes up for it's drawbacks and it scares 14 year old faggots shitless. Only real gripe I have with it it has to have a hicap because of how HPA tapping a GBBR works unless you want to fuck around with a French I think workaround for GBBRs. Still it's good for a high speed low drag get up for summer so you don't sweat to death.

Just got an AGM M4 RIS GBB from an Evike box deal, good well/screwed am I?

>>2628630

The G&P mags are the worst. After filing the plastic top cover the metal started bending. I threw them away.

>>2629117
>>2629193

I both had a glock 26 and a Five Seven in my hand, and the FN is even bigger than my 1911. I like the Glock 26, but the only thing I'm worried about is gas efficiency. They only sell WE's glock 26. It has the ugliest lower frame i've ever seen because of the stamped WE trademark.

>>2631577
Very screwed

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are these worth it for airsoft? anyone in here who has them?

>>2632591
I've been thinking about getting them for shooting and airsoft. Common to modify them for use with ARC rails on helmets

>>2632591
im buying them mostly for the sound amplification feature (and also because im a sad larper and they look cool i guess)

>>2632591
I use them. They're pretty great, though they might IMPACT your cheekweld.
They amplify the sound pretty well, so you sometimes expect someone sneaking up on you, when in truth he's much further away.
I don't trust people with pirotechnics, so I have gotten them because tinnitus ain't all that cool. Also for real shooting, though I'm too poor to afford that.

>>2632658
are they comfortable or are they going to cook your ears after an hour?

>>2632301
Never had a problem with my G&P mags aside from having to hammer down the back spine on a couple I got. They feed flawlessly.

>>2632929

Are you using a specna arms m4?

What is the cheapest bolt action that won't fall apart? I probably won't put a scope on it, and I want to run it with my machine pistol just because I like the feeling of working a bolt

>>2632944
Nope, but I've never experienced the metal bending wildly

>>2632977
Cyma vsr, Army l96

Is the Specna Arms 416 any good?

>>2632928
Reasonably comfortable, though of course it's better to have nothing at all or those new Peltors, I also want to get ESS suppressors for them.

>>2632977
Unless you're willing to upgrade, BASRs are a waste of money.

Could be a laugh though.

>>2633436
I mean I wouldn't mind cheap/easy upgrades but I mostly want to use it for laughs. I want that iron sight bolt action feel, but I don't want to drop the dosh on a WW2 replica

>>2633878
Yeah okay that's neat, but Daytonagun when?

>>2633922
>2017
>Daytonaguns
anon, you should sit down for this...

hey /asp/, just inherited a bunch of airsoft gun. some gaz.
testing and storing the stuff right now.
For cqb gun that may be "too powerfull", should I use heavier projectiles to hurt less, or lighter ?

>>2634176
Downgrade the spring.

You could use a heavier bb to slow its speed down, which might get it past cqb check in if they are dumb enough to not check bb weight, but the energy is still the same and will hurt so its a bad idea.

I've been peeking at airsoft for a few years now, I'd really like to participate in a bigger operation.
How do I start?

>>2634380
Find a local field. Get a friend to go with you on the correct day, and rent guns the field has. Play a few games. If you like it, start researching what brands are good and get what you want.

>>2633927
Why are daytonaguns dead again?

>>2634690
Because fuck nice things and fuck you for wanting to have fun

>>2634380
Find a club and ask them if you can play a couple of matches with them.

Does anyone here own any other the following guns
TM MAC-10/MP7 AEP
JG MAC-10 AEP
Echo1 gat
CA/VFC (preferably CA) MP5

Looking to get my mini aeg game up

>>2637200
I have the JG scorpion which I hear is similar to their MAC-10.

I have used it 1 weekend so far and it was a lot of fun. I haven't done the lipo upgrade yet and I could feel that the gun was a bit sluggish, but it had a decent ROF. Don't expect a lot of range on it either. That said it feels great to hold, looks great, and came pretty cheap. The mags were a bit weird but if you crank the piss out of them they work great

>>2637297
How's the hop up?

>>2637399
ok, but keep in mind that I have limited experience with it.

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Anyone ever try calorie bars like pic related before? Considering it as a compact, immediate and no fuss alternative to MRE's.

>>2637410
What kind of range and fps you get?

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>>2637431
Dont.

Its better to stack up on snickers and wet food portions like pic related. You can heat it up in 10 minutes with a heater bag and start eating it immediately (quite warm though), or if you absolutely don't have the time, eat it cold. If you cant afford a 20 min lunch break then you use the snickers bars.

Even freeze dried food is better than emergency bars, and they truly fuck up your digestion system.

Not worth it for non emergency situations and short time periods.

I ate freeze dried food for 8 days once, AMA if you want.

>>2637480
>Snacking on pure sugar during an extended airsoft game
I just need a non-sugar based food item which can be eaten immediately without utensils as I have no idea when my squad will have down time depending on the demands of the faction leaders. I was going to bring Jerky as well but I want more substantial calories preferably with nutrients like that one brand to go with it.

>>2637464
mid 200s for FPS, and the range was maybe 100ft

http://www.booliganairsoft.com/2013/09/jg-vz61-skorpion-aep-submachine-gun.html

>>2637494
>I just need a non-sugar based food item which can be eaten immediately without utensils as I have no idea when my squad will have down time depending on the demands of the faction leaders. I was going to bring Jerky as well but I want more substantial calories preferably with nutrients like that one brand to go with it.

block of decent dark chocolate.

>>2637494
Bring a bag of peanuts instead then to even out the sugar balance.

I don't know the specifics of that brand of emergency bars, but the one we got to chew on in the merchant navy was designed to digest slowly and just give you enough energy to stay moderately warm and energized until rescue arrives.

Wet food portions can be eaten cold, and they are prepared to be eaten either with a single spoon or by opening a small corner up and eating it like a candy nut cream bag. Not the most ideal way to consume it, but it works and its thousands times better than resorting to emergency bars.

>>2637535
>Bring a bag of peanuts
You gave me some good inspiration: Ritz and peanut butter in one of those portable squeeze tube.

>>2637480
>I ate freeze dried food for 8 days once, AMA if you want.
Did it clog your intestines?

>>2637557
Oh yeah, peanut butter and crackers isn't bad, isn't too sugary either, the fat gives you some energy.

So would you bring milk in a thermos with that or what?

>>2637586
I passed out on the toilet at day 8 after two rows of constipation that lasted two days each.

But the first one may have been a result of the starvation test at day 4 and 5 since I didn't actually eat anything then. All in all, lost 4,5kg in 8 days.

Can any slavsofters chime in on the Toy Soldier Defender 2? I'm too povo for a real Defender (Dudes are I never find real ones for sale that don't have plates with them for $400-$600, and I know the IRT one is way off in terms of color; so the TS one seems like a good bet. Are there other D2 reps out there?

I'd ask in RRGi, but the last thing I want is getting my ass blasted by dudes who want to be COM.

Fuuuck I want a famas so bad, but they only sell the proprietary mag version

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There is nothing more satisfying than an enemy coming blindly into your kill zone as a SAW gunner. Prove me wrong.

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>>2637431
>>2637494
You sound like a mega tryhard...

>>2638035
>toygunfag
>calling someone else a tryhard
topkek

>>2638040
I'm gunna assume you're either a fake fight watching closet homo, or a tryhard that thinks he deserves a medal of honor for his service on the airsoft field.

Playing toy guns is one thing, but taking it that far is just cancer. You wouldn't happen to be on 811, would you?

>>2638058
>toygunfag thinks he can dictate what's "too far"
>as he runs around in the mud with 12 year olds with his glorified bbguns
Where's your smug anime girl picture faggot?

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>>2638068
>Thinking i play with little fucks and not my friends and they're friends on private property.

lol look at the autist that wants to "simulate" the military with his toy gun.

>Where's your smug anime girl picture faggot?
i should ask you the same question.

>>2638035
>looking for decent food on the go makes me a tryhard
>Smug anime face
Nigger this is the same thing that hunters, hiker, climbers etc think about. Hell any normie who's active think about what are the best foods to have while doing exercise or strenuous activity.
>>2638058
>>2638077
Autism, pure autism

>>2638077
>he's a toygun fag
>he tries to feel superior to other toygun fags in his toygun fag thread
>he thinks running around with his manchild friends shooting each other with bbs is somehow better than some other toygunfagging
>his best reply to being a degenerate pedophile who posts pictures of anime little girls is "n-no you"
>he thinks i'm a toygun autist and not just a shitposter with an autist on the hook like it's nothing
Sad!

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>>2638093
>Nigger this is the same thing that hunters, hiker, climbers etc think about. Hell any normie who's active think about what are the best foods to have while doing exercise or strenuous activity.

Those people don't get dressed up and pretend to be something they're not, and make it "part of the experience" to eat the food(s) those people i actual war zones do either.

>>2638103
>he's a toygun fag
Says the guy that cosplays it too.
>he tries to feel superior to other toygun fags in his toygun fag thread
thinking I'm trying and not is.
>he thinks running around with his manchild friends shooting each other with bbs is somehow better than some other toygunfagging
a fuckton better than playing dressup, then shelling out hundreds to go play it after traveling dozens, if not hundreds of miles.for 2 days of pretending to be a soldier / some slav special forces member.
>his best reply to being a degenerate pedophile who posts pictures of anime little girls is "n-no you"
says the guy on a website dedicated to anime
>he thinks i'm a toygun autist and not just a shitposter with an autist on the hook like it's nothing
huehuehuehue it's just b8 m8!111!!!111. KEK you're just like every other tryhard. Semper-fi, Anon. Carry on.

>>2638129
Yeah, you're mad.
:^)

>>2638129
Dressup aside I'm still doing exercise for an extended period of time and I don't have a Subway or something to hit up when I'm on the field. The food that people eat in "war zones" is similar to food you'd find in the civilian world. If you want to be a disgusting fatfuck who brings McDonalds to the field then be my guest. I just want to be able to enjoy the event I'm paying money for to the full extent I can.

>>2638143
Because making something at home and bringing it with you is impossible.

>b-b-but carrying extra weight on me would be useless and take up more space!
So do the fake plates in your "plate carrier" that you wear to stop bb impacts and shrapnel, right? As well as the other shit on you kit for "atheistic" reasons.

>>2637431
i've been considering those gatorade protein bars because they're pretty fucking good when i used to eat them all the time at work

>>2638143
let it be known too, those MRE things are pretty unhealthy, since you're trying to be a health nut. All that salt they have in them is going to fuck with your digestive system, and give you some pretty gnarly shits when the time comes around.

If you want some exercise, whats stopping you from going for a run / jog / walk a few miles every other day? Crank out a few burpies and pushups when you wake up and before you go to bed. Replace all soda and fruit drinks with water (once in a while is ok), and watch what you eat. You'll feel like a new man in week. Keep it up for a few months and you won't recognize yourself. (assuming you took your mirrors down, which a recommend)

>>2638163
I don't use platecarriers and I was looking for an easy meal that doesn't require a cooler. I even decided if you read my posts that peanut butter and Ritz was probably the best option which fits your "making something at home" recommendation. What is your argument at this point?
>>2638193
I was actively trying to find an alternative to MREs and I'm by no means a health nut. That being said I realize the benefits of good nutrition during activity being beneficial alongside preparation through exercise.

>>2638206
>I was actively trying to find an alternative to MREs
i used MREs as a blanket statement for all that garbage people put into themselves. Avoid those bars and shit like the plague.

>I'm by no means a health nut.
neither am i, but it's easier than you think to get / stay in shape.

>What is your argument at this point
that was good. use honey too if you want. It's very good for you. As long as you dont kill the whole bottle in one go. (make sure it's organic with no preservatives / added sugar)

I love these threads because it goes forever without anyone talking, then suddenly someone asks a question and it becomes an autism magnet for all the lurking spergs.

>>2638258
The trick is to not insult them but carry on in a conversation normally.

>>2638462
shut up

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*blocks your path*

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>>2638608

>>2638025
I do not own a SAW, so I can't prove you wrong, but I'm just going to assume that it's probably just as nice as with an MG42, so yeah, you're right

>>2638608
Would you just look at those MANLY THIGHS holy fuck put pants on you monster

>>2638025
>talking about SAW's and machine guns
Stop... you'll attract him....

>>2638608
I still don't think she actually likes Airsoft and does it for money/attention and because Jet does it.

>>2638893
>does it for money/attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=417&v=JiIzBJZXmIk
desu

>>2638901
i never understood smoke grenades.... why don't people just start shooting into the smoke? obviously there is people trying to move behind it....

also,
>airsoft
>immersion
>airsoft
>anything close to actual combat

>>2638922
>what is suspension of disbelief

>>2638925
>suspension of disbelief
exactly. what is it. tell me. because none of the "immersion" makes any sense to me.

>wants it to be like real combat
>bang bang rule
kek
>muh safety
if you're too stupid to cover your eyes and teeth, or too much of a bitch to get shot with high fps in a game like that, you shouldn't be playing.

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>>2638930
>heh you're a bitch nothin personnel kid
It's a courtesy rule, autismo

>>2638935
>It's a courtesy rule, autismo
so you're tying to simulate combat by saying "bang bang" and then bitch when you get shot? "milsim" is the most cringe thing in this

>>2638948
in this hobby*

>>2638948
>>courtesy rule
>simulate combat
you're not completely simulating combat, which is why there are
>courtesy
rules still in the game. if we're trying to simulate combat, we should instead just use MILES and drop BBs because they shoot plastic and don't make any report like an actual blank firing gun or normal gun
>cringe
upvoted bro

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Was it a work or a shoot?

>>2638959
>we should instead just use MILES and drop BBs because they shoot plastic and don't make any report like an actual blank firing gun or normal gun.
I agree with this. the only problem with this claim would be "aktually!11!!1! sum m1lsim geams hav a fue peeple wif blank gunz!11!!"

>>2638959
>you're not completely simulating combat, which is why there are
what part of combat is it simulating? the only thing that comes slightly close is the handling of the replica gun. and thats only because it has similar weigh and feel to a real one. outside of that, very little translates over.

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>>2638972
>pic related
with added realism rules
you can keep beating around the bush about how "it's not actually simulating combat" or any variation of all you want
(you)

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>>2638974
oh here we go with this bullshit.
>using nerf guns can simulate combat
>a kid pissing out a match is simulating fire fighting
>WWE is simulating fighting
>playing guitar hero is simulating playing a real guitar
>playing need for speed is simulating driving a car
>fixing an airsoft gun means you know about real guns

@2638995
there it is

>>2638974
Are you seriously tying to compare airsoft to shit like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV_J4xbj2s8

i'm not giving you any (You)s, go back to your dramas

>>2638948
>"milsim" is the most cringe thing about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpH3w9Aano

>>2639023
Is it time to post quality airsoft videos from our local communities?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1xnD-XmR2c

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>>2637841
Cybergun are bringing out some new version of the FAMAS, all tactical and shit.

That one might accept M4 mags, but it looks like arse compared to the F1 (wee carry handle, wonky bipod etc.).

>>2639535
>slowpoke.jpg

>>2639025
I always laugh when I see some dumb 19 year old buying an airsoft gun. It's like why, you dumb fuck? Why waste your time and money? You don't know airsoft is deader than horse shit? What the fuck do you think's going to happen? Why do you think everybody in their late 20s and early 30s stops playing airsoft? Go to a milsim or pickup game these days. What's the average age of most of those airsofters? Why do you think that is? I'll tell you why: because being poor as shit is only fun when you're a stupid ass kid. Just as soon as your peer group moves on to adult pursuits you look fucking retarded playing the "cool kid who plays airsoft". Trust me, when all your family and friends have stable jobs, kids, and nice houses your playing airshit out of an old dilapidated rust covered CQB field won't measure up anymore. It's like.. think about what your doing, you dumb little shit. What are you trying to achieve? Do you really think you'll be one of the lucky few who'll wins the lottery and has a successful career in airsoft? I mean, really? Do you really think you're talented and smart enough to succeed in the airsoft industry? Are you fucking stupid?

And don't give me all that "I do it for myself" bullshit either. lol, no fuck you don't. You're doing it in the hopes that one day it'll garner you some peer recognition, you're hoping it'll help you climb up socially one day. You do it because you're a fucking loser who wants to desperately escape the societal pecking order you feel has marginalized you. Name a famous airsofter who started off wealthy. Oh, you can't? That's who you think you are, loser. You want that same success and you know it. Only problem with your plan is noone cares because airsoft doesn't matter anymore

Go to school, get a real job, and stop wasting your time trying to score "cool points" with other impressionable moron kids like you. You ain't gonna make it, you fucking idiot

Get a fucking clue

>>2638922
>why don't people just start shooting into the smoke? obviously there is people trying to move behind it
People do and its bad if the guy using the smoke does it so obviously. In real life however they are effective if done right because its a screen and unless you just want to blow your load through the smoke and hope you hit someone with a mag dump you have no idea what's beyond the smoke. Best uses are popping it right in their face and going around it or if they have your mindset throw it in a direction that they're not going to take so the enemy fires into it.

>>2619390
Will they ever have a metal charging handle ?

Does anyone know what paint WE use to paint metal pistols? Every paint I've used either is too thick, never matches or never holds up.

>>2638025
Telling enemy to come over to you and knifing him because he was too stupid to realize you were an enemy.

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>>2639572
What if my intention is to just shoot those guys who think airsoft is cool while wearing fudd camo pants and mostly civilian stuff and then laugh about it when I get home?

>>2640049
That's okay, i guess.
But the moment you forget to laugh on your way home you become one of us

>>2639572
Where did this pasta come from

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>>2640227
newfag

>>2640498
How does the high level drone thing go?

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>>2640523
The same as the high level truck.

>>2639535
When is that supposed to come out?

>>2629128
Where you at Britbro?

>>2640568
>>2640523

Whats the high level truck, and drone?

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>>2640848
>>2640848
New thread.
>>2640848
>>2640848

>>2640852
Too soon. We're only on page 3.

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Hup

>>2641206

>>2641206

>>2641206

Actual new thread.

>>2641108
who is this semen demon?

>>2641402
It's (you)

>>2633662
Swiss arms make a co2 vsr clone that comes with iron sights as stock, that might be you best bet