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ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships, fart guy and the guy who stuffs his pants
Fuck off
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>>18629315
It's me again, before I talk to her I just wanted to reassess and ask around one more time.
>I told her I wanted to meet her to not only talk about religion (we met through a Christian student group), but also to get to know her better.
>She quickly agreed to meet up at a cafe and it was a lot of fun, she showed a lot of interest and didn't let herself get distracted for 3 hours.
>At the end of the date she tells me she'd like to do this again and I felt like she understood that I'm romantically interested in her, and reciprocated.
>I was very confident she would like to confirm the next date, and that a walk followed by dinner would be a reasonable escalation
>After I send the invitation, she reads the message and doesn't reply (something she's never done before) and 5 hours later I write her again.
>She then tells me that she's confused as to how she's supposed to interpret this and wants to "inform"
The way I see it is she didn't once think of me as someone attempting courtship that she was completely taken aback by the possibility of me wanting to be more than friends, hence the lack of reply. If that's the case, she's waiting for a "oh, I didn't mean to make this invitation like a 'date'-date".
I'm not gonna cut off contact if she really has zero interest in me as a partner because I want to continue working with the student group, but I'd really like to not end this like this. I don't want to continue these dates under false pretenses, so I have to be honest with her, but I'm pretty sure if I told her "oh, I was hoping this would be a date" she'd awkwardly end it right there because that's what she doesn't want this to be.
How should I proceed?
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>There's a girl I work with, kinda cute and I like her
>She asks me if I can come over after work one day and help her move some furniture around
>Figure I can use this as a chance to get to know her better and agree
>Move her stuff around
>She says thanks and offers to make me dinner
>Sure
>After dinner we are sitting on her sofa drinking some wine
>While on the sofa her dog keeps sticking his nose in her crotch and mine too
>It tries to jump up on her too
>It's a black lab and it was very hard not to notice the red thing sticking out underneath
>After we finish our wine she thanked me again and I went home
>Since then she has been a lot more friendly and talkative with me at work
One question though, is she doing what I think she's doing with her dog? The way it kept sticking its nose into her crotch and jumping on her with an erection makes me quite sceptical. Is a girl like that even worth pursuing?
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Girls, what do you prefer:
Sucking dick or having dick rubbed in your face?
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>>18630510
Both suck. I guess having it rubbed in my face, since at least I don't have to taste it then.
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>>18630516
Does it have a particular taste? Doesn't it taste like skin?
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>>18630522
I just don't like it. I don't like the taste of pussy either (I"m bi) so I think I'm just hyper sensitive or something.
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>>18630510
Sucking dick. Having dick rubbed in my face seems pretty pointless.
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>>18630528
Yeah, but is it like skin or not? Like sucking my finger has the same taste as sucking my dick?
As for pussy, you don't like it even after a shower?
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>>18630538
It's got a kind of indescribably taste. It's certainly not like a finger, and no, I don't like the taste or sight of either genitalia, after showering or no.
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>>18630528
pussy doesnt have a good taste, especially at the beginning. dunno if after a while you simply lick away all the salt or lose sensitivity to it or something but then becomes good
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Girls: if a guy is better at making you cum with his hands more than with dick (like 1 dick orgasm against 5-6 hand ones) would you be fine with it? or you care about how you orgasm
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>>18630567
I mean, I don't really have sex for orgasms.
If he can make me come at all, he's already better than most guys.
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>>18630572
i only had one girl (even if for a few years) so i cant really say im experienced or anything, but she would cum easily many times
was she blessed or are we so bad at it? i felt guilty if she wouldnt orgasm
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>>18630579
I don't really struggle to come. When I masturbate, I can get myself off in like 3 minutes.
I have very little experience, but most of the guys I had sexual interactions with didn't care/didn't know what to do.
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>>18630589
pity, a girl cumming is the biggest turn on for me
what do they do so that i avoid doing it? just stick benis in bagina? no foreplay?
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>>18630594
Little foreplay, no sensuality, no seduction.
They also didn't pay any attention to the way they moved while they were fucking me. Just fucked me mindlessly.

Now my boyfriend is good in bed, and I really come every time I have sex with him. But he's really the only man who ever made me cum.
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>>18630597
>no seduction
could you explain more? i always been shy and never knew how to "set" the right mood
girl always had high sex drive so i never had to learn it, while i was good at foreplay and everything else, but wouldnt know what to do to initiate the lust in a girl that isnt already willing to fuck
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>>18630433
1. Girl who owns dog/cat is VERY lonely. Ask her on date and the marriage is almost quaranteed if you will behave better than the dog. ASK HER ON DATE.

2. Almost any male of any animal species is as horny as you. How often do you fap? Dogs cant fap, imagine not fapping for 5 years. Anything slightly resembling pussy would make you rage. That is the dogs situation.

3. Female (and even male) hormones exists even in us humans, but we cant smell them as easily as dogs. Dogs has so good smell they can smell drugs from 100m. Smell of your boner or her vaggo is guaranteed to attract any not castrated dog. Her dog is simply not trained to behave properly.

4. Even if she let her dog to eat her (or mount her which i highly doubt she did, yet the bestiality videos on internet shows how easy it ia with certain breeds), it only means she is kinky and wont be starfish in bed. Aka not exactly negative trait.

It is obvious you are also single loner. Plus she can cook. It wont get any better for you than this to evade fade known as
>dying alone
ASK HER ON DATE FAGGOT! I bet you can compete with her dog easily. Whatever you do, do NOT mention bestiality to her. Even if she is doing it, you dont want to make her embarrased.

>>18630567
If you care about your girl enough to make sure she cums and enjoy sex as much as you do, you are better than 50% of male population already.

>>18630602
Look up some lesbian porn. Copy techniques from that. Cuddle, cuddle, tease, cuddle, tease. Be creative.
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>>18630605
can cuddle but cant tease, and i dont have the "insight" on lesbian porn to discern when they are honest and when they are acting
just a couple hints pretty please
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>>18630602
I mean, I never rejected anyone I was in a relationship with.

My boyfriend does very simple things - cuddling me, feeling me up, holding me while I'm cooking, kissing my neck, undressing me, pushing his boner against me, biting me, telling me how hot I am and how much he wants me, grabbing my ass. He texts me while he's at work telling me how much he wants to come back home and fuck me, sometimes he texts me to wait for him at home in certain positions, or I tease him and he sends me pics of him being hard while at work.
I don't know, he makes me horny before even starting foreplay. I really crave him When we fuck, I'm already really turned on.
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>>18630611
You are like kid asking how to play with toys. Her whole body is one big toy. PLAY WITH IT. Talk to it. Bite it. Slap it. Choke it. Tell it it wont get any cock until it begs you. Tell it you will eat it. Pretend you will do A, but then you will do B. Make it obey you.

Or switch roles and make her pretend she is strong amazon who can easily overpower you and rape you.

It is a game. Bend her over and take her. Drop on your knees and burry your face in her crotch calling her princess. Carry her around like caveman. Pretend you are thief who likes to rape little girls.

Go play with your toys. And when the game gets stale, buy magic wand or let her tie you.
http://mojoupgrade.com/
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>>18630623
>Pretend you are thief who likes to rape little girls
sorry what
for everything else i did all of it so maybe i was doing ok
i just felt that i wasnt doing good in creating any sexual tension OUTSIDE of the moment of sex, but only at that moment
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>>18630632
Roleplaying. Find out what your and her fetishes / kinks are and trigger them in sex session for wild ride.

Some girls want their daddy. Some wants to be raped. Some wants to be raped by their dad. Some want to hear how you will make her pregnant. Some want to dress you as girl. Some want to invade your anal. Some likes to pretend they are animal. Or little baby. But she has to trust you first in order to tell you her secret fantasies. I bet you have kinks as well but you havent had enough courage to tell her.
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>>18630632
:-D
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>>18630637
oh we both did that, had a fetish for jap school uniform and she did it (first one coming to mind), she asked for me to piss on her and i did so and also wanted to piss while getting fucked
also used to finger her while at a table with other people or at the phone with her parents, was pretty fun
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>>18630650
I think you just feel like there wasn't anything going on outside actual sex because she had a high sex drive so there was less breaks in between sex. As long as she's happy, it's fine, and if you're with someone who's not like that you'll have a chance to learn about pacing and timing.
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>>18630510
Sucking. I like giving head and getting a dick rubbed in my face is not my thing. Not because it's unpleasant physically but it implies a sort of degradation thing that does nothing for me. Like a puppy being rubbed in its pee or something, nope.

>>18630522
If he's clean out of the shower it should taste like skin, except for precum which tastes slightly metallic (in quite a good way in my opinion) and semen which can range from flavorless or slightly sweet to full on bitter/rancid.
Having said that when the guy doesn't just come out of the shower it's not like licking your arm, more like licking a shaved armpit with some fresh sweat. Of course provided he didn't just shower but does have reasonable hygiene.
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>>18630567
Absolutely, it's about a full experience. Whether it is easy for her to come from penetration will have more to do with her bits and ability to relax and what not than with your technique, anyway. Though there are exceptions (eg if you barely ever last long enough to get her there, even though comes easy to her).
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>>18630679
i find it much easier to hit multiple sensitive spots with hands, fingers and mouth than with dick alone
can do internal stimulation on g spot while rubbing clit and licking asshole all at the same time, while with dick i cant be that precise
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>>18630683
Don't worry, honestly most any girl would be happy as fuck to have someone put in a lot of effort that way (even apart from what I mentioned about how easy vaginal orgasms are having to do more with the woman). The #1 complaint I hear from friends when it comes to sex is that after the first novelty wore off, the guy doesn't finger or lick them, just wants to put it in (after as little foreplay as possible). You're good.
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>Guys
Why are you so fixated on blowjobs?
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>>18630724
Feels good man.
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Guys:
Why do you think a lot of men aren't deerred by a girl saying she's a lesbian? Surely that's not an attack on your ego or anything?
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Girls:
My GF isn't very "vocal" when we have sex, I asked her about it and she told me that moaning during sex is a myth.
Is that true? or is she trying to protect my feelings because I'm so bad at sex?
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>>18630740
The thought of her lezzing out is hot probably.
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>>18630724
probably from porn, also feels like an upgraded pussy since tongue too
never got a really awesome one so the fetish pretty died out
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>>18630751
ex gf would literally scream while i barely made any moan, so i would say both kind of people exist
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>>18630751
It's a grey area. I like to compare moaning during sex with screaming when going down a rollercoaster. Is it natural and spontaneous? Yes. Does it enhance the experience? Yes. Is it physically impossible to not do? No. (Of course some women do actually fake moans but that's another point.)

It is possible for something to feel so good, be so unexpected etc that you literally cannot help but make a noise. But most of the noise women make is more from having learned to express their enjoyment audibly as well - which comes natural to an extent for almost everyone because it is a common response. Think of the "ohh" at pretty fireworks, the yum-noises some people make when they enjoy food, a reflexive "aww" at a kitten. They are in part instinct, in part having learned that this is a valid way to express enjoyment. Look at how most men don't make a peep during sex. This isn't because somehow for women it is a very strong urge and for men it isn't. It's because men are nudged into thinking that it's normal for them to make noise and men are nudged into thinking that it's normal to be silent as a stone.

Essentially, your girlfriend being silent doesn't mean she doesn't enjoy it. I have noticed that when I am by myself, it takes a conscious effort to make noise during masturbation (even though it enhances the experience), while with a partner it takes a conscious effort to not make noise. In both cases I enjoy it lots physically. It's like you wouldn't laugh out loud as easily with yourself as with someone else present, either. In a way it is still communication.
But she can learn to grow more comfortable with it. Starting easy - not with porn moans but with a sigh, a "this feels great". I think for many women (at least from my experience) yelps and muffled moans/grunts are also more common than the screaming you see in porn. The reason she doesn't moan is because it's her normal, not because you're bad.
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>>18630724
Virgin here, I'm not.
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>>18630301
Is it ever appropriate to ask a waitress out? And if yes, how should I do it without putting her in an awkward spot?

Went to a good place, and this cute waitress said she recognized me from somewhere (I never seen her before in my life) and chatted for a bit. I know she was just doing her job but she seemed more friendly than any waitress I ever had,so I thought of just saying "fuck it" and giving her my number. That way she can call me if she wants to, and I don't put her in an awkward position. Is that a good way to approach it?
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>>18630770
Obviously meant
>*women are nudged into thinking that it's normal for them to make noise

For the record though, it is true that the moaning you hear in porn is overwhelmingly fake, and it does happen that girls greatly exaggerate their noises because they feel it's part of the game (or because it turns not just their partner but also themselves on to act like they are in Heaven). Basically it's not a myth but what your girlfriend says does have some truth in it particularly looking at porn.
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to everyone: if a dear friend i didnt see for a while comes back to my country but can only save 1h to see me should i tell him to fuck off? i feel like a petulant bitch but damn really that's the best you can do?
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>>18630780
Yes, what you did is the best way to go about it. She cannot walk away from her workplace and it is part of her job to be friendly (or even flirty, plenty of bosses informally push you a bit there) so it's against etiquette to ask her a question that basically forces her to show her real feelings/opinion and potentially piss a customer off for something beyond her control.

By giving her your number you leave the ball in her court and she is not obliged to give any frank reaction to your face. Also want to stress that it is really nice of you to realize what the situation was like from her position and trying to find a way respectful of that. If she has a good head on her shoulders then that in itself will be a green flag to her.
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>>18630724
Do you have any source on such bold claim? I am fixated on your face, boobs and vagina. Also cuddling is god tier (wxcept when it is 30ºC+ summer, then i can cuddle only in swimming pool).

>>18630740
We dont see competition in other girls. They can make you pregnant. And when we imagine your two sexy bodies trying to harmlessly slide on each other, it moves all our blood to lower regions. Also the though of curing lesbos by concentrated dick doses sounds fun.

And almost all girls are a bit into other girls. We simply dont believe you. You are like an unicorn a challenge for us.

>>18630784
You sound like somebody i never want to be friends with in the first place.
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>>18630784
It depends on why they only have one hour, I guess. And how close you were/are as friends. Basically whether it shows that you are really low on the list of priorities, or that they have legitimate other things to attend to.

Either way though, the bare info and the way you word this does rub me the wrong way. If they are such a good friend shouldn't you be happy that you get to see them again and not focus so much on whether you get your rightful share of their time?
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>>18630794
i dont know, didnt even tell me what she has to do, nor actually confirmed any time or place yet (will go back tomorrow morning), it's 2pm here now
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>>18630740
View it as a challenge probably. "If I can turn her straight my sex appeal must be sky high!".

Lots of women do that shit too, at least if the queer in question is especially attractive.

>>18630784
Either more important shit is going on (trying to meet all of their extended family for instance), or you weren't as close as you thought. Pick your poison.
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>>18630804
How long has she been staying for? If she spent weeks relaxing here and only now just told you "btw I have an hour to see you" then yeah that's a bit douchey. At the other hand if she is here for a limited time then it is extremely plausible that she just has other plans/people to see and is in a hurry to tick off all the boxes of activities she wants to do while in your country.

How invested you are in whether she treats you right gives me the idea that either you have (had) feelings for her, or you carry resentment over something else having happened. If neither is the case I would re-evaluate your expectations of friendship in general and I'm not saying that to be a cunt but because they just aren't realistic.
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>>18630810
ex gf, stays here 2 days. if she told me a little in advance i wouldnt have really cared, but like this it feels like she can simply get me for granted by asking a minute before, while i deleted all my stuff in those 2 days to leave room for meeting
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>>18630816
Try to imagine how you would feel if it were another friend you had never had the same emotional intensity with. There's a lack of casualty here that is normal for a (failed) romance relationship but not for a typical friendship which is in the most positive sense more laid back and featuring less expectations, and in the most negative interpretation more indifferent. Your reaction stems from seeing her as your ex and not as a friend at heart.

Having said that you don't have to disregard your feelings if you don't want to see her. But what she is doing isn't in any objective way rude. You say that she "feels she can" take you for granted, but has she even implied any set expectation that she can get to see you? Or did she just tell you she had one potential window, seeing whether you were interested and could make it?

Either way, if you don't want to meet up, just tell her sorry but you can't make it at that time because you have other engagements. Do not actually tell her to fuck off because it's not enough. You will regret it in the future and it will sour any other interaction.
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>>18630786
Thanks! And yeah I just didn't want to be pushy.

What do you think is a good thing to say, I was thinking "I thought you were cute, so here's my number if you ever wanna have a coffee or something"?
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>>18630770
Thanks, though when I asked her how's the sex she said it was good.
Not great, but good.

Any tips to enhance my performance ?
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>>18630826
Nothing wrong with it but personally I'd stress more that you enjoyed talking to her. Assuming that you were relaxed and enjoying her company, smiling etc, she could no doubt tell that you thought she was cute (whether in the sense of pretty or in the sense of charming). It is something that women hear a lot (or pretty, sexy, whatever) when being asked out and that makes it more of a void statement than it really is. By stressing the interaction you aren't excluding her looks or way of carrying herself but looking at the bigger picture - what she said, how she made you feel and so on.

You can also go all out and say that you found her quite cute and really enjoyed talking to her, that just entirely depends on the girl whether having their appeal directly mentioned as well makes it better or is a bit uncomfortable for them. Either way it is not offensive or weird or anything like that so I'd go with personal preference on that and choose what you feel most comfortable saying. Ultimately being relaxed and confident about the delivery matters most (unless you really are saying something weird, of course). Best of luck!
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>>18630823
>Do not actually tell her to fuck off
of course i would simply make up some excuse
dunno, maybe it's because i would have no problem taking an extra day to calmly meet someone, instead of rushing it
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>>18630832
I understand but given how confident her statement was I strongly doubt that in her case the lack of moaning was due to it not being up to her standards. The two (her lack of moaning being normal for her, and the sex being able to improve in her eyes) are not mutually exclusive.

As for your perfomance, that one is tricky because ultimately everything about being a good lover boils down to attention. Picking up on what -your- partner responds to and remembering that. Learning to read (even for someone less or not vocal) when she relaxes or when she stiffens up. The basic skills like fluid thrusting, not hurting her with your nails, knowing what you're doing during oral etc all pale in comparison to this sensitivity towards your lover. When people say that someone is good at sex they mean something similar to when someone is a good dancer. Being a good dancer isn't about knowing a routine or "the routines" one should know. It's about being sensitive to rhythm, about fluid moving, and most importantly about intuitively responding to the individual vibe and nature of a given song and working with that, not enforcing static strategies.

As for cunnilingus, there's lots of great guides and videos online. Fingering really is nothing more than using the flat of one or two wet fingers and very subtly alternating pressure on the clitoris with that - working a trackpoint (on a laptop, a little button you use to move the cursor) comes most close to it I guess. Virtually all women love confident, grabby touching at least sometimes - pushing her down on the bed, grabbing her hips and the small of her back, playing around with using your weight on her to make her feel enveloped. The best shot at making a woman come from penetration is by making sure she is aching and begging for it beforehand. If you are fingering or licking a woman and she seems to be close, keep at exactly what you're doing and don't speed up or intensify it - it can throw her off.
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>>18630301

Hey ladies, could you be like, fucking honest and stop giving mixed signals?
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>match with girl on tinder in November
>talk a lot but don't go on a date until February
>she says it was nice meeting me and she's willing to be friends but that's all
>stop talking to her
>in May, I message her again because I miss her and I'm bored
>stay at her house one night but nothing happens
>we get along for a few weeks but I get frustrated with not being with her
>we have a huge argument and say horrible things to each other, agree to never talk to each other ever again
>...
>August
>notice she's unblocked me, so I message her to see what's up
>she says it was an accident and that there's no point in us talking because it just doesn't work
>still ask how she's been and stuff, conversation flows
>...
>now I'm seeing her twice next weekend, and there's other stuff next month we might go to together

What the fuck? She's been far too nice, it's unusual to me. I've only met her twice, she's under no obligation to be forgiving and let me back into her life but she is. I don't know what to do. I feel like this post doesn't do the situation justice but I don't know what else to write.
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>>18630833
That's awesome, thanks for the help!
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>>18630844
>during oral
We aren't doing it, she dislike giving me a blowjob, and refuse to kiss me after I go down on her and it seems a huge turn off for her.
>playing around with using your weight on her to make her feel enveloped
I'll need to work on that then.
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>>18630844
Most women like some version of having their neck kissed, licked and/or gently bitten, as goes for the spot behind the ears and the earlobe. Practice (like on her nipples) with making the most of little flicks of tongue, the pressure of your lips, your breath, saliva, so even within a relatively simple and stale action there is movement and change. Even the best sensation in the world grows stale when you keep at it. (Except, once again, if she is so close that you want to abandon all novelty and drive her home.) Just like you renew the sensation by pulling away then thrusting in again, you renew the sensation by switching to different physical tricks and you can do this in the most dramatic and the most subtle ways.

For most women (and plenty of men) sex often starts before you start having it. Paying attention to the little details - initiating with deep kissing or wrapping your arms around her from behind and pulling her in, instead of asking her for sex or variations; looking her in the eyes while you unclasp her bra instead of letting her undress herself while you undress yourself; making a show out of going down on her instead of disappearing under the covers - can make the difference between something that feels routine and something that feels passionate.

These are some fairly universal tips but coming back to my very first point, you are learning how to please your specific girl. When she thinks of "better sex" she might be thinking of things like I mentioned, but she might also be thinking of kinky sex instead of vanilla, just to name something. While you are not left powerless if she does not want to discuss sex, frankly talking about what would be ideal for both of you and what turns you on the most is the most surefire and fastest way to molding yourself into a good lover for her. Hope this is helpful.
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Why do women protest against cat calling so much when they obviously enjoy it? Do they simply enjoy being hypocrites?
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How wide is the vaginal depth variance?
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>>18630871
as much as dick lenght
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>>18630859
No problem, it was just an example and it hardly depends what you are doing. Even if you are just kissing her thighs for example, it's a wholly different experience for her whether you are under the covers with her staring at that bulge or at the ceiling, or you slowly spreading her legs open and moving up before she's even felt anything, her seeing you down between her legs and admiring the shape and so on.

Also for the record, not trying to imply that your girlfriend sucks at it, but plenty of (especially young) women also suck at sex. If she thinks something like I mentioned above is awkward - perhaps she doesn't even like having the lights on or whatever - doesn't mean it objectively is and you should forget about it. You should just work around what she feels but her opinions aren't the opinions of women everywhere. That's the other side to it being an individual matter.
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>>18630870
Cat calling and cat calling is two. "Hey beautiful" on a sunny afternoon when you're feeling good and look up to find a guy smiling at you, is a different world from walking around at night and a guy muttering "nice blowjob lips" while his friends are dying of laughter and you feel like the punchline to a shitty joke.

A lot of cat calling isn't about paying a woman a compliment or even interacting with her. It's about entertaining other men or getting respect (especially for teenagers...) by showing how you are badass enough to yell crude or humiliating things at a random woman.

Having said that I do think the whole discussion on cat calling isn't nearly nuanced enough. Many women simply feel like saying they do enjoy it at time or under certain conditions takes away from their more important point about the negative cases, I guess.
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>>18630845
No.

>>18630848
Ask her on date or block her yourself.

>>18630870
If cat calling was done only by young (but mature) handsome men in a subtle or polite way (like when you say good day and good bay), nobody would complain.

But it is done mostly by ugly drunken brutes who makes you feel like the rape will happen any moment and you get scared of dressing sexy or walking alone in certain places.
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>>18630913
>and you get scared of dressing sexy
Stop dressing sexy and they won't catcall you. It's a free country.
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>>18630920
Not her, but this is not true at all. I don't dress provocative and live in a cold country where I am bundled up in layers, a coat, a scarf etc for a good part of the year. It doesn't matter. For many men, especially the kind who hang out on the streets drunk with no real purpose, the mere fact that you are a woman is provocative.
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>>18630913
Imagine if an employer took that attitude

>I'm crazy , and unless you want to be jobless then deal with it

It's manipultive, and just plain evil.
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>>18630929
It's still a first world problem.
>reeeeeeee they call me sexy reeeeeeee
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>>18630931
Jobs are a whole different thing. The picture is accurate for sex and relationships. Men are so desperate for sex that they have to adapt to whatever women do to get to have sex with them.
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>>18630938
No one ITT said that it's the worst thing ever, nor do most of the people talking about it. But it not being the biggest problem there is, is in itself not an argument.

Also see >>18630883. Most cat calling isn't calling a woman sexy. It's making fun of her. "Hey doll can you suck me off" has nothing to do with paying anyone any compliments. It's about laughing at their expense.
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>>18630920
I can fix my appearance however I want, but it wont change a fact that certain male population never left puberty in the first place.

>>18630931
>evil
Dont stick your dick into crazy sweety. You dont need sex to survive. And if you do, what are prostitutes?

Also this >>18630941 you are all so desparate you will do literally anything for that 2 minute act.
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What exactly is feminism? Meme aside.
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>>18630943
It's a political correctness issue. Women simply don't want to admit that they enjoy it.
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>>18630950
I don't imagine all women are like that?

Thank God I'm Bi
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>>18630952
This is not an easy to answer question because there are many different forms of feminism. The Jezebel-type "everything women do is great and everything men do sucks" is a far cry from the academic feminism that tries to answer for example why gendered expectations for women are the way they are, what history they have, what developments they went through and so on.

In theory, feminism is about the belief that the sexes are different but equal, and that women should have the same opportunities and rights that men do. In reality many many more people (men and women) agree with this than identify as feminists, though.
As a field of study I'd identify feminism as a mostly sociological field that looks at how men and women interact and seeks to strive towards more freedom for individuality at the expense of gender expectations. All this seen from the female angle. Many feminists claim to look at men as much as women - this is hardly ever true in practice. Having said that there's also feminist classic on men, like "The Men and the Boys" and "Masculinities" from Connell (a man). It is just not nearly as much represented, extremely so in mainstream (= popular feminism) but imo also in academic feminism.
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>>18630957
Many women enjoy actual positive, non-pushy acknowledgement from a (strange) man. They do not enjoy getting crude sexual come ons hurled at them. They are hesitant to come out and say that they do enjoy some forms of cat calling because people will jump at the chance to go "SEE, it's not a big issue" and disregard women feeling unsafe or harassed at other times. As I said, I enjoy a man actually telling me to have a good day or paying me a compliment. That does not mean that I "enjoy cat calling" because that covers a lot of interactions that are not limited to things like that.
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>>18630963
>bi
Call back when you decide it is time to start family.

>all women are like that?
Dont fall for stupid generalizations. They are much worse than that. I am just honest. And dont worry, if everything fails, you still have MGTOW movement as fallback option.
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>>18630988
>2017
>caring about starting a family
Many if not most people nowadays switch partners and have random children with each other.
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>>18630988
>MGTOW
I would rather die alone than be associated with those cringey fucks
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>>18630993
Imagine how your children will be raised up and how successful they will be when they will be raised up by various random fathers and moms. I would say it will be effective end of your blood line.

>>18631002
>die alone
That can happen very easily to man. Be careful anon.
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>>18631011
I couldn't care less about my blood line and I don't want to start a family. If I did though I would try to have a stable, traditional family. That doesn't change the fact that 1 out of 2 married couples divorce in the US, and that people these days have kids with different partners and that's the current idea of a "family". What you suggested was rare unless you live in some country not in the west where it's not.
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>>18631011
>implying I'm not going to die alone anyways
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>>18631023
Not trying to convince you to have a future you don't see working out, but the 1 in 2 stat is pretty misleading because it includes people getting married at nineteen and lower class marriages have a worse chance of succeeding than marriage between two college educated people.
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>>18630973
>Many feminists claim to look at men as much as women - this is hardly ever true in practice
What does this mean?
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>>18631023
>doesnt want children
You are part of the problem called degeneracy of the west. How do you think the next generation will behave if only real degenerates will have and raise children?

>>18631026
This is /adv, we seek solutions to problems here. How many different girls have you asked on dates in the past two years?
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>>18631033
None. I am simply not good enough I am short (~5'2) and have a small dick (4.5") I just don't measure up
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>>18631043
Move to asia. One eyed is a king among blind.

And get rid of the defeatist attitude. Your desperation is what girls hate the most. Or try single mothers or fat ones aka lower your standards.
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>>18631032
The claim is that feminism works towards equality and dismantling rigid expectations in general. In practice, they do not look at gendered male issues (like the prevalence and social acceptance of male circumcision, the huge overrepresentation of men when it comes to criminal activity, addiction, a bunch of psychiatric issues and suicide, female on male rape, false rape accusations etc) with the same focus as they research female only or primarily female issues.

If you ask me, in academic feminism (in which it is also slightly more equal) the main issue is that it is just predominantly woman interested in women's issues who feel drawn to feminism - even if they agree 100% in theory that male issues are just as important.
As for mainstream feminism, it is in part the same issue (and often without really believing that male issues are as important) but it is worsened by a type of back and forth resentment. For example, if someone writes on female genital mutilation it can get a reaction from an angry guy saying "why don't you write about male genital mutilation as well". This will likely piss said writer off and make her more likely to argue why the two are not on the same level in terms of damage or historical significance, instead of actually embracing the topic. This in turn convinces the guy that she doesn't really care about male topics to begin with.

You see this all the time, even in threads like this - that "men/women do this as well" or the variation "men/women actually have it worse" is used as an argument to shrug off issues of the opposite sex. It's like a toxic marriage in which both partners are too consumed by feeling overlooked and wronged to be receptive towards the other person's hurt.
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>>18631046
That photo never fails to make me laugh.
>"down to earth" but has children at 23 and is single, using tinder
>that "but im actually a good person" smile
>cusually dropping the "mother of two" part like it's not a big deal
>"Christian" using the literal meet 'n' fuck app
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>>18631048
Dude, you're too fucking intelligent for this place.
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>>18631046
My standards are rock bottom. I might pick a qt nip. Also I read an article that men with small penises tend to have a "Goddess complex". And that is a no go on the sigle mothers bit. I've seen where that goes. It mainly is about my attitude
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>>18631048
Two things to add. I guess the quickest way to get my point across is that it has come to a point where oftentimes both sides (men and women) feel like paying attention to a male/female issue invalidates issues that they themselves have.

Secondly I wanted to add that like I mentioned in the first post, some of the most profound thinking on male struggles and male identity has still taken place within the feminist discourse. It's just that when you look at the field as a whole, it isn't remotely 50/50 despite propagating that the movement is as much for men as it is for women.
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>>18631053
I know right, she is perfect partner for >>18631058 they are made for each other. All he needs is stable job and ability to be good dad.

>>18631057
You are confused anon, you are just too stupid to be here. >>>/b/ is that way.
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recently a girl I like hanged out with the psychopath (her words) she was always talking about. She was scared about him and shit. He insulted her as well. Now they fuck. What's the point for women to not commit a mass suicide if this is their self worth? Tell me.
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>>18631057
Haha thanks man, honestly I should be working on an assignment right now instead but procrastinating is hard to shake. And if I'm procrastinating anyway I might as well weigh in, I like people still asking for more information and not buying into the most rage inducing representations right away.
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>>18631068
Again I am not raising kids that are not mine. Because as soon as they leave the house; I am toast. Like I said, my father made the same mistake
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>>18631076
I will tell you a difference between you and him.

He is assertive.
He asked her on date.
He was bold enough to kiss and feel her up.
He was dominant enough to have his own oppinion and didnt agreed with everything she told and wanted.
He behaved like horny man.

You? You whine on 4chan.
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>>18631076
Just like you don't want to be judged for the actions of any given male retard, her actions concern herself.

Having said that negative stuff like this (be it negging or downright violence) tend to work on women who have low self esteem and women who come from very unstable homes. Those also typically go hand in hand.

Once someone is used to mistreatment (like from their parents or their first lover), that becomes what is familiar, what they know how to handle. People who grew up with abusive or absent parents can oftentimes be scared of proper affection because it gives them something to lose. With someone abusive, they "know what they get".

Another factor is that once you grow used to an explosive person who makes you feel a rollercoaster of emotion, you grow addicted to that intensity and a normal, healthy relationship feels dispassionate in comparison. It's not for nothing that people tend to date a string of "crazy" or abusive partners.

And a third factor is that insecure people tend to like someone who's firm and hyperconfident. She might be aroused by BDSM stuff and too inexperienced to see clearly that while some of the things he does might excite her, also give away his shitty personality for doing it in this manner and this early.
And women like a man who "is" someone. For most women it doesn't take dramatic forms like this, but it is one of the most morbid aspects of female sexuality that a man who is a raging asshole will likely not want for groupies. There's always some woman who will find it masculine and primal/passionate.
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>>18631092
Not that anon but not all of us are interested in fucking someone who has no sense of self worth. I think that might be the point. You make it sound like the only goal is to fuck girls.
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>>18631076
>one woman did a thing
>that means all women do the thing
Great cognitive abilities you've got there, champ.
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>>18631092

There's a big misunderstanding on my words, man. You lack premises.

I am assertive, I asked her on a date (she refused at first, then she agreed but I couldn't anymore and she hanged out with this guy then), I stand for my opinions, even if I show up as arrogant or too dissective on a purely logical point of view, it is everything to me.

Things I missed are: acting like a horny man, because I honestly learned the hard way that being too much thirsty is a turn off, and I did not treat her like the next step on my serial killing schedule.

I'm not whining, I'm just really confused, and I'm asking why a girl would hang out with someone who always call her "useless whore" and treat her like she is beating her with words. Literally. I read the conversations from her phone.
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>>18631113

Of course I was being ironic. But what if I tell you that this guy catch the interest of at least 8-10 women? They are not 4billion women, but they are quite a lot. And his looks are average.
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>>18631119
I dunno, man. I assume that they're low confidence girls. It's a sad fact that our society (at least where I live) glorifies lack of confidence in women, so it's probably not that weird. If you show that you value yourself, you're immediately branded as a stuck up bitch even if you're reasonable about it.
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>>18631115
Why would you want to date a girl who obviously has daddy issues or even worse mental problems? To me it seems you dodged a bullet. If she allow such abusion at the start of relationship, she will transform into "white trash". Keep in touch with her and slowly watch how she will turn into multiple single mother from various partners.

Have some self respect and date mentally stable girls. Looks arent everything.
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>>18631076
Sociopath are amazing at talking women into sucking their dick. They're charming, witty, usually very smart, they're great at talking you into fucking them.
You feel scared, but intrigued. You feel offended, but you want to gain their approval.
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>>18631107

Yes, this post make a lot of things more clear.

>>18631111

And this. I'm confused but also a little bit scared. I recently met some of these kind of girls. At first they seem smart, well educated. Then they drop me and I observe how they follow a shitty guy. I'm not intrinsecly better than those guys but, you know, I think that on a behavioural point of view I act a lot in the sense of being caring and respectful.

>>18631130

Didn't catch the last sentence. You mean that if a girl shows that she values herself, she is branded as a loser?

>>18631138

So, I'm dodging a lot of bullets recently, it seems to me. And according to your words she could probably be a white trash by now, and I even didn't suspect this.

>>18631140

This is another piece of information I needed and thing I don't understand is that if you know how a sociopath will act far into the relatioship, why would you go for him even if you know that he will probably destroy you? Hunger for emotions, like anon said before? This is above average fucked up shit.
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Are there qualities in a guy that makes him seem so non-threatening that he could go on a date with you and you wouldn't even consider it being a romantic advance?
I never really had any issues talking to girls and most people find me interesting to talk to because I know a lot about a variety of subjects (not imdb or tvtropes trivia, but science, politics, history etc) and I have comparatively unorthodox interests. But when it comes to approaching a girl to get to know her better, there isn't a hint of interest or awareness about my feelings, as if I was an elementary kid asking his teacher to marry him. I don't look like a twink, am not bending over backwards to please them or come off as a fag, but I feel like I meet some hidden combination of personality traits and interests that magically keep the nethers dry.
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So late in the last thread I posted about a girl I like that I haven't seen in two months that keeps flopping on my plans but still texts me. I was just about to ignore her for a bit but late last night she sent me a sorry with a picture of her boobs in a different app. What the hell do I do now?

Will answer what I can ITT now.
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>>18631163
>if you know how a sociopath will act far into the relatioship, why would you go for him even if you know that he will probably destroy you?
Because you think you can change them. You think that they'll grow to love you and respect you.
Also - mentally ill people are very intense to be around. Same reason why a lot of guys go for bipolar girls or shit like that.
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>>18631180
Text her back something tongue in cheek. "Really nice, but I'm afraid I'm going to need more compensation.. ;)" or a variation. Do not get emotionally invested in an actual relationship. Her response (rather than a drawn out apology+explanation what actually happened) makes it seem like she's fishing for some sexual attention, nothing serious.
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>>18631179
Yeah definitely, if a guy is really natural and relaxed about interacting with me I could see myself at least not being sure that it's a date.

I'd try to get around this by pointedly saying "I really enjoy talking to you, can I take you out for drinks sometime?" or outright spelling out if she wants to go on a date.

Also learn how to flirt! Flirting is vastly underrated and a great tool to implicitly put yourself on someone's sexual radar.
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>>18630301
>dating fwb for a few months
>we have a chat last week about where this is going: i feel she is too closed off, and she says i'm suffocating her
>agree to take it slow/chill out and work on our feelings/issues
>all week she's been touching me up
>"wanna go back to mine a fugg"
>"no"
I'm getting hustled aren't i? I really do not know how to deal with this and it's making me angry at her
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>>18631197
First of all FWBs is a very delicate predicament and you don't really get to have a ton of expectations. You decide whether you are happy with what she's offering (or happy enough to deal) or you break it off. Bringing up whether anal would ever be on the table is fine. Having a talk about how you feel that she is too closed off is honestly something for a relationship.

She's just being horny and completely disregarding your feelings that you clearly communicated to her.

I don't really think you can work this out. You are too emotionally invested and she is trying to make you her plaything regardless.
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>>18631185

I'm the anon of the question before, I can fairly empathize with the perception of a major sexual tension that you ride with a borderline girl, and maybe it's the same with a sociopath. But love is way more intense even if it comes from a much more quieter mental place. Maybe the problem is that nowadays relationships are built up from a sexual relationship with less expectatives. But there isn't much more on the other side.

I think I'll have to continue my quest for a functional girl.
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Guys:

How exactly would you define daddy issues?
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>>18630410
The advice you got is pretty common in the dating "game" where guys like us are supposed to purposely ignore so we don't come off as too obsessive and the girl "wants us more". With that said, maybe she genuinely didn't realize it was a date and needs to think it through? The only advice I can add is that girls don't magically fall in love after one date, especially if you don't know her well. You either keep it playful and fun or you inform her that you want it to be a date-date. Your post kind of comes off as white-knight though.
>>18630433
No fucking clue anon. I have never been in a situation like that. If you find her cute and like her why not pursue her? It seems the date went over well. You mentioning beastiality may risk ruining anything with her and it might just be your imagination because dogs love to sniff crotches. But if it is true, you also run the risk of finding out later when things are more serious with her which may become a deal breaker.
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>>18631213
I did go for a sociopath when I was in a very bad place mentally. It wasn't even sexual, we never went further than kissing - it was just a feeling of absolute, complete dependence and admiration. I worshipped the ground he walked on.
I grew out of it as I got better mentally, and am now dating someone who loves me very much and who I love back. But it is easy to fall for them.
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>>18631219
What makes a guy a sociopath? What traits should I look for and how can I realized that a guy is a sociopath?
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>>18631219

Thank you femanon, you gave me hope. I wish you the best. I love you!
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>>18631227
My ex was diagnosed by a psychiatrist.

He was very bold. He wasn't afraid of anything, he just went for whatever he wanted without thinking twice. He was extremely charming, the real alpha in any situation. He was very impulsive, absolutely unable to wait for anything. He had no self control. And he was absolutely cold-hearted - not so much with me, but really a lot with others. He was mean. Had no respect for authority, for rules, for society.
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>>18631243
Did typing that make your pussy wet?
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>>18630913
I feel like you didn't understand my post at all. Already tried going further with her but can't, asking her out on a date isn't going to work. But I am seeing her twice soon. I invited her out for drinks, and she's invited me to a concert.

Whatever, I doubt I can explain.
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>>18631259
Lol. No, not really.

He was really fun to be around and not really an awful person to me, but really not someone I'd want to be with in the long term. I realised pretty soon, and moved on.
I'm very happy where I am now.

>>18631234
<3 Thanks anon.
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>>18631205
Apprently she has feelings for me, but people not knowing what they want really frustrates me
I'm considering just blanking her from now on, but i cannot lie that i don't want to

I need some new tail to chase
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pretty much every girl I've been with has commented on the large volume of cum. is large volume of cum a good thing/neutral/turn off?
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>>18631287
Unless she is particularly grossed out by semen, it's positive. A more dramatic effect and highlights that you got off. Plus some women actively like to get it on them and then a big load does the job better than a bit of cum drizzling out.
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>>18631218
God damn I type a lot. Definitely a byproduct of my lib. arts degree...
For >>18630433 I was going to add this: Think about this, what are the actual odds she's doing something with her dog? Probably slim.
>>18630724
I'll give you an answer you haven't gotten past "it feels good". It's an act that only makes me feel good, so I see it as an affectionate act by a girl who does it just to make me feel good. It's special that way and it can be sort of submissive, like she's giving herself to service my cock.
>>18630848
I dunno anon this comes off really weird. It depends if you want to put up with a rocky friendship with some Tinder girl but if it were me, I'd just drop it unless you want some company. One of you must be unstable at least?
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>>18630784
too add, she answered and she was actually using her time here to work (the 2 days were supposed to be her break from work of this year)
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>>18631187
She said she'd "make it up to me" so I was going to respond playfully to that part but still add other things. She explained earlier why she was busy so she just gave me another quick playful sorry this time.

Our thing (whatever it is) isn't serious, we basically met through kink stuff and we fool around. But early on I remember she mentioned she wanted fooling around not to be separate and have a significant other, then we had the "what are we talk" and she leaned more to FWB. It's hard not to get emotionally invested because I like her, and I've been meaning to mention that I'm not sure I can keep doing this casual thing without being together, but I flop back and forth between that and just wanting it to be non-serious and playful.
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If a girl is pissed off, do you wait for her to come to you or do you go to her a few days later when she's chilled out.
What if you're both as pig headed as each other, but she's less mature?
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>>18631320
cant end well
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Long term gf (2 years) and I broke up. Things had been going south for a while and I had thought that we would be able to work out our issues, but she decided to call things off.

The night after, I get an email from her about how she misses me and regrets "taking me for granted" and that she still loves me. So, I contact her and we agree to meet up again in a few days. In the time between, she texts me stuff like "I miss you" and when I ask her what we are she says that we're "together" but need to work on being good to each other. I'm game with that.

But, when I finally see her it's like she has done a 180 and is no longer interested in seeing me. As soon as I greet her at her doorstep she is stone cold and won't even look at me. We didn't hang out long that day, couldn't bear the be around her like that. The two of us could not have a calm conversation either, so I never found out what was eating her.

My question is, what the fuck do you think happened?
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>>18631372
And all i want to do is talk with her why i didn't mean for her to get mad
But all the advice i'm getting from irl people is to just leave it

But I. Just. Can't.
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i am confused as hell. about the girl i have dated twice and soon third.

right now im still on vacation a couple of days. She says she went to get drinks with old study mates, most of them had to leave early so in the end she had a drink with 1 guy. Honestly because of a past failed relationship i have a bad feeling because of that and this the next date will be the last.

why would she tell me this and not hide it? This is my only justification to think it's nothing.
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>>18631179
You need to show them you are horny male beast. Compliments, flirting, "accidental" touches, asking for netflox and chill, smiling like retard, eye contact, handholding, kissing and using word date explicitly.

They have to feel like female next to horny male, not as teacher/mom looking after kid.

Tldr escalate it via any means you can. Be rather bold than sorry.

>>18631215
You want secretly to be abused by anybody who is similiar to your dad either via looks or behavior. And if we dont abuse you in the right way, you will drop us eventually and find new abuser/bf/daddy.

>>18631320
I leave her alone and check on her after some time to see if the period is over or not.

>>18631417
Crazy bitch. And remember, she broke up with you once, she will do it again. Have some self respect, block her and then move on.
>You will walk away from her when she has violated your integrity, and you will let her walk when her heart is closed to you. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.

>>18631484
Stop overthinking nonsence and date the bitch. Who cares why she told you that. It is too soon for you to be jealous or insecure about her.
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>>18631505
that's great advice actually. i'm just damaged by a former girl and insecure about that. But you are right. I did not act jealous luckily.
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Can jannies for the love of everything explain to me why they deleted my thread on false rape accusation? I'm genuinly upset right now.
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>>18631552
They do it for free. Sometimes when your thread gets somebody buthurt a lot, they simply report it and boom, deleted.

Tough luck bro, but nowhere if free speach. Even if you made your own website like 4chan, authorities would be in your ass the moment somebody would post "illegal content" which is becoming more and more broader term across the planet.

>and once gov learns they can create bots to crawl web and identify trolling and unsupported propaganda via deep learning neural networks, we wont be even able to shitpost in piece.

:-(
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So uh, fellow ladies, is there any treatment for yeast infection that does not require me to cram anything up my cooch?

Last time this happened I did a 3 day monastat where you have to shoot that creme up there with a plunger type thing, and it was the most fucking painful shit I have ever gone through. I cannot handle penetration of any kind, it's bite on a belt screaming in tears level pain. Like I snapped my arm clean in half before and that pain aint got shit on vaginal penetration pain, I'd rather snap my arm in half again than stick anything up my pussy. I feel like I've got another yeast infection coming on but I'm traumatized by the last time.
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>>18631594
>>>/gyno/
How are you planning having sex if you leave your vaginismus untreated? Get that cured too once you are there.
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>>18631046

>Or try single mothers or fat ones aka lower your standards.

I just got denied by a fat single mother of three kids nearing 30, so yea, that advice doesn't work.
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>>18631648
Nothing in dating has 100% success rate. If something has 10%, it is considered good enough. Try again?

Why did she reject you? What did she said? What did you do wrong?
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>>18631641
Dont really care to have sex anyway.

I dont really have the cash to go to a gyno over a yeast infection unless its resistant to the over the counter treatment. Thats all my gyno would tell me to do anyway, get some monistat.
I've just only seen the plunger type and I do not want to shoot cream up my snatch with a blunt edged applicator again.
Feel like theres gotta be another kind of treatment.
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Girls
My hand aren't that masculine and huge, is that a turn off. They look too soft and I'm self-conscious about them.
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>>18631663

>She's not ready to date yet but "let's see where it goes"

Don't know where I went wrong, but I'm sure I did something stupid.
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>>18631667
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>>18631664
>dont care to have sex anyway
>dont have the cash to go to gyno
The sad state of fat femanons in usa. The 1st world country my ass.

If you can insert 2~3 fingers without pain, you need to train and do other remedies
https://www.vaginismus.com/vaginismus-treatment/

>>18631669
How desparate / clingy / ugly / poor are you?
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>>18631680

Not poor. Loaned her several hundred dollars. Desperate? Very. Clingy? I can go weeks without talking to someone, so not a problem. Ugly? Well, I ain't pretty, but I'll just say that my looks improved since high school 10 years ago while hers, well, got worse. A lot worse. But I've always had a crush on her, always liked her, and I can look past that and still want her even though she's flawed to hell and isn't good for me.
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>>18631676
Really?
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>>18631680
Yeah that doesnt solve the yeast infection. Thanks anyway i guess.
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>>18630301
my gf dumped me 5 months ago, still gets super excited when I bump into her and her new boyfriend.

what does this mean?
does she want me back?
she ignores me when he is not around?
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>>18631688
Google Kira Yoshikage you damn normie
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I lost the weight, fixed my fashion and skin in a few months. Not too long after that I knew for sure one rather sexy classmate was into me. I'm not sure about the other male attention, but he was real. By all means I should say something like "cool, nothing to worry about. I'm ok. Not actively unpleasant." And I did, and it didn't matter. I don't see an abomination in the mirror. Yet I'm afraid I am one. Nothing that anyone says has changed my mind, either.

Other low self-esteem girls and guys: how do you do it? How do you step outside and not feel like everyone that sees you is genuinely bothered by you? And not in the whole "judgey asshole" way. I mean in the "normal person's natural and understandable reaction to seeing a gross insect or a mutant" way.
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>>18631505
>You want secretly to be abused by anybody who is similiar to your dad either via looks or behavior. And if we dont abuse you in the right way, you will drop us eventually and find new abuser/bf/daddy.
Huh. I do think I have some daddy issues since my relationship with my father has been pretty awful, but I deal with them by consciously avoiding men who are like him and dropping people like hot potatoes the second they disrespect me. I guess that's the healthier variant.
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>>18631710
I'm not even close to being a normie, but I will do.
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>>18631710
Hasn't Jojo become normie, though?
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>>18631191
I invited her to a cafe and I specifically said I wanted to get to know her better and she didn't think there was anything beyond platonic about it. Which ultimately didn't matter because she had a bf all along but it says something about how she sees me.

I kind of completely forgot flirting exist. I have zero experience in being flirtatious and have a hard time complimenting looks, any advice on that?
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>>18631721
Only parts 2 and 3, though 4 is getting there
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both:
what is a trait commonly considered undesirable that you want your partner to have?
state your gender, please
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>>18631773
>what is a trait commonly considered undesirable that you want your partner to have?
Physically, big/crooked nose and paleness.
Personality wise, a certain level of arrogance.
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>>18631777
>state your gender, please
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>>18631790
I am sorry. Female.
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Is it ever ok to physically retaliate if a woman hits you?
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>>18631773
Female here.

I like it when my partner is genuinely soft. Not the "appears to be in touch with his emotions but has his shit together," I mean really sensitive. A crybaby even. I like it when I can take care of my guy.
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>>18631773
Female. I like ears that stick out a little.
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>>18631839
I don't get it.
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>>18631907
What is so difficult to understand about it?
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What does it mean when a woman wants her partner to be "open-minded and tolerant"? Refugees welcome?
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so there is this girl I met over the internet. We never met.
I liked her once, now I consider her to be pretty meh, but I never told her to fuck off (probably because our contact is rare enough)

she behaves strangely:
[afternoon]
her: "hi, are you home?"
me:"yes"
her:"how are you?"
[before I say three sentences or so, she continues]:
her:"wait, I'll call you in the evening. Bye"
[evening comes, the same conversation ensues]
her:"wait, I'll call you tomorrow. Bye"
[repeat for up to a week]
at some point we actually talk, it takes an hour, maybe two. Then she fucks off for a couple of weeks and the process repeats

can anybody explain?
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>>18631927
*we never met IRL, I meant
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>>18631773
Male. I like girls who are just the tiniest bit trashy.
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So this girl keeps initiating conversations with me on fb and then just stops. Like i'll say what's up? And then she won't say shit and give 1 word answers. What the fuck is wrong with her?
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>>18631912
Why do you want a man who cries all the time? Who is manipulated by his emotions?
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>>18631773
>trait commonly considered undesirable that you want your partner to have?
Her being politically incorrect (not /pol/). But I think this is universal for men, it turns us all on when the chick is like that.
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>>18631952
Because I find it endearing. I'm cold and cynical myself and I can only ever express emotions with someone I perceive to be "weaker" than me, so to speak. I don't need strength and stability, I can supply that on my own. I want someone sweet who will make me feel things. I will provide emotional support in return.
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>>18631977
You sound really weak and insecure tbqh (I don't say this an insulting manner). Viewing your partner as weaker in the first place, idk.

Each their own.
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>>18631962
>implying that women feel the need to have opinions on political matters, let alone have one
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>>18631992
Think whatever you want, mate, I don't need to justify myself.
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>>18631900
Could be a number of things
She could be shy and uncertain of your interest level. Could be trying to "play it cool". Girls get autism too.

She could just have only the faintest amount of interest in you/have better options. If you make the effort, she's not gonna turn you away or anything, but she's holding out for a better suitor.

Could be she has no other options but still isn't sure what exactly her feelings are and is trying to ease into it. Letting you take the lead eases the pressure on her uncertainty and allows her to reflect on what she's feeling but also gives her an out. Like if she actively pursues you to test the water, but then changes her mind you might think she was being misleading, but if she just goes with whatever you do she can take comfort in she never really gave you any cues one way or another.
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>>18631773
Female

Uh, I guess average sized to slightly below dick. I hate the big ones, they're just uncomfortable.
That's the only thing I can really think of. I generally just want the average normal dude.
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>>18631907
Means women say one thing but go for the opposite irl.
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how to establish a friends with benefits vibe?
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Girls, do you usually talk all bubbly and excited when talking to people you don't like via text or messenger? Or are you terse and curt with them?

I met this cool chick on Tinder earlier this week and we (seemingly) hit it off. Turns out we had a ton in common. Conversation flowed smooth and she was constantly using lots of exclamation marks and smiley faces and talking in all caps when she got excited because it turned out we had a shared interest.

We talked back and forth for 2 days and at the end of the second day I gave her my number by saying something along the lines of "hey I know not everyone has wi-fi all the time so here's my number if texting is easier for you." she replied with "Okie day!"

So today I checked my phone around 3 and she was gone from my matches and our conversation history was gone and she has yet to send a text or anything.

Am I crazy or is that just fucking weird? Why would you act all bubbly, reply frequently and even double message and give that kinda response to a number, then just fucking delete them?

I fucking don't understand women man.
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>>18632016
>Could be she has no other options but still isn't sure what exactly her feelings are and is trying to ease into it. Letting you take the lead eases the pressure on her uncertainty and allows her to reflect on what she's feeling but also gives her an out.
This is exactly how I feel about her.
Honestly speaking I get the picture that we are not each others "type", yet we get along in conversations very well. This is pretty much the reason I became interested in fucking her, I usually prefer girls who look differently. She mentioned she likes older men, bigger man which I am not.
So what, pursue romance or leave it at good friendship level? She has taken her passive position, so it is up to me now.
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>>18632079
>I fucking don't understand women man.
Good, because there is nothing to understand.
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>>18632079
She just used you for attention, once you started going for real, text number, date, she backed off.
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>>18632078
You just have to confirm your intentions verbally.
If you want to avoid being a dick, you tell them before clothes come off "btw, I'm not looking for anything serious, you still cool with this?"
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How common is it for women to be dominant in bed? What happens when both are dominant by nature?
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>>18632081
Hah, yeah I speak from personal experience in this regard as well. I'm currently seeing a guy I have mixed feelings on. His personality is bomb, we click extremely well. However, he's just not that physically attractive to me. Idk how to proceed with that roadblock, he's not ugly, he's just not what I usually go for in a sexual/romantic partner. Because I cannot confirm with myself if I have any strong feelings for him, I take his lead. If he tells me tomorrow he wants to gf me, I'd say yes. If he just continues to fool around casually with me, I'm chill with that too.

Not sure what you do if you're both like that though. My guess would be just continue as you are until one of you gets more concrete. I will admit, the guy I'm having wishy washy feelings for is slowly growing on me. Before I was more in the camp of "I can't date this guy seriously", now I'm fully ready to play that role if he asks me. Who knows, maybe in a few months I'll be begging him to be my bf.

I'd keep it casual for now, without strong feelings from at least one party I don't see much benefit to getting into a relationship.
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Girls, or maybe guys if you have experience with this, what does it mean when someone says they "just can't be in a relationship right now?" I've heard this many times as to why a girl won't date me.

My GF just left me and said that was why. Told me she was unhappy and it's 100% not me just herself having issues but I strongly doubt that.
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>>18632116
I wish I was memeing.
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>>18632121
I don't understand. Are you saying she's fucking chad?
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>>18632134
Not necessarily fucking, but he is around.
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>>18632116
I don't think we can really say, there are millions of reasons.

She could be trying to let you down easy, she just fell out of the relationship and didn't have the feelings for you anymore.
She could just find she has much more pressing issues and she doesn't have the time or energy to put into a relationship anymore.
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Women, can you explain to me what's so attractive about Bateman's face?
>>18632121
>>18632151
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>>18632160
it's all about his name being so similar to Batman.
I assume you don't need to be told why is Batman so attractive, right?
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>>18631927
bump
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>>18631807
Yes. It's also okay to slap a woman that's getting too uppity, legally, unless you live somewhere like Seattle.
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>>18631807
Depends, it's ok to defend yourself no matter who is assaulting you, if it is necessary to retaliate back in order to secure your own safety. You shouldn't use excessive force though, if all that is needed is a shove to get her off you, decking her in the face 30 times likely is going to be seen as excessive force.

Legally, you'll be safe if you can prove all that. She was assaulting you and the use of force was necessary to protect yourself.
If she slaps you and starts to walk away and you respond by grabbing her arm and beating her face in just purely because you're angry and not because you're fearing for your life/safety, police ain't gonna side with you.
If you are assaulted but otherwise out of harms way, best move to do is to press charges if you can prove it in court. If you cannot, it's best to just remove yourself from the situation, move on with your life, and never associate with her again.

(And again, this applies to all situations of assault. If a guy hits you and walks away, I'd say the same thing. Physical retaliation in general is usually only acceptable if you are fearing for your safety. Otherwise, fuck them in the court room instead.)
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>>18631807
heh, I remember that one time my ex almost bitten open my forearm.
We fought in complete darkness, pretty fiercely.
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>>18632233
What happens if there is a witness, but he or she refuses to tell the cops what happened? I'm thinking in general.
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>>18632290
Well generally nobody's obligated to testify. It sucks but that's life.
As said, if you cannot prove what happened in court, it's better to just remove yourself and move on. If you're safe, you're safe. If you no longer fear for your safety you're just wanting revenge. Which is valid, it sucks when bad people get away with shit. But you'll waste more of your time and effort trying to get that revenge and let me tell you, it's just not that satisfying.

If the beating you received was enough to inquire damages (such as a hospital bill), then chances are if you are swift enough in calling the police the attacker will have physical evidence on them, your witness won't really be necessary. Forensics has gone a long way, it's hard to commit a super violent crime and dispose of all the evidence.
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>>18631807

Yes, more or less. Personally, I'm 6'5" 260 pounds so I wouldn't hit her. I'd probably restrain her or shove her away. Assault and battery are charged on a sliding scale based on the severity of the injuries inflicted so if you completely destroy a woman in one punch and break her nose or jaw and you come out of it with a little scratch you're going to get charged, for sure. You are legally allowed to meet force with an equal amount of force to stop it i.e, you can't pull a gun because someone verbally threatened you because that is considered an escalation of force. If a small little woman hits you on the arm or chest but doesn't leave a mark and you punch her so hard you fracture her eye socket you're going to be the one in cuffs. Its the same as if you hit a child; just because a child hits you doesn't mean you're legally allowed to hit back five times as hard and snap the kid's spine. Keep that in mind. The same goes, legally, for men fighting each other as well. You're going to have a hard time explaining that you were fighting back in self defense if you don't have a scratch and your opponent is in the hospital.
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I don't know where else to ask this

I don't have money to buy a new pair of glasses from a retail store but my current pair are quickly becoming scratched beyond use
is there a place that lets me use my own frames, then I purchase the lenses and get them fitted or something like that?
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>>18632314
>nobody's obligated to testify
It's the opposite. If you're not willing to testify in court...hehehe.
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>>18632339
I should add that lying is just as bad.

Bottom line is that you have to tell the truth or else you can face fees and charges.
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>>18631686
>crush on single mother of three
I dont know about your life, but i would say it is high time for you to do something with it.

>>18631705
Stop seeing her dumbass. And get new gf.

>>18631714
Fake it until you make it. And never rate your own body. Find somebody to do the rating for you and learn to trust them.

>>18631716
Can you tell me what you consider as disrespect worthy of break up and what is still tolerable? I want to know what to avoid.

>>18631807
From time to time i read news about wife murdering / stabbing her husband, mostly in a fierce battle in kitchen with a knife. Another reason to always respect your wife. Imho when you make your wife rage so much she equips knife for battle, you have failed as husband very badly.

>>18631921
It means literally nothing. Provide more info or
>bee yourself

>>18631927
>LDR
>never met
Find real girl from your location so the cuddling can happen.

>>18631950
Ask her on date noob.

>>18632108
Dominant girls in sex are as rare as unicorns. Dont confuse thembwith professional doms who do it for money and social gains.

Angry sex.

>>18632116
She doesnt want you. Small dick, no money, ugly, boring, short, whatever the reason is, you arent enough for her.

>>18632327
https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/careers.html
Usually you buy glass and frames separatelly, so yes, you can give them frames and tell them to just get new glass, but it will depend on how big jew the shop owner is.
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>>18632345
>wife murdering / stabbing her husband, mostly in a fierce battle in kitchen with a knife. Another reason to always respect your wife. Imho when you make your wife rage so much she equips knife for battle, you have failed as husband very badly.
(You)
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>>18632345
why do you never cease to be so fucking retarded?
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>>18632345

You give very bad advice.
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>>18632356
Do you have any idea how hard it is to stop being retarded? Education takes years and the effect isnt guaranteed.
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>>18632410
just don't provide anymore 'advice', that's all
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>>18631773

Male: girls that smoke weed
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>>18632100
you tell them after you fuck them
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>>18632433
where on earth is that considered undesireable?
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>>18632438
apparently some people hate girls who smoke. I love it. It means they don't care what people think.
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To women:

There's a girl on campus (has a boyfriend) who I met over Twitter. We don't have any classes in common, but after brief chatting online we have very similar interests and are like-minded (politically and philosophically). This is a chance to have a meaningful friendship. My question is, how can I invite her to do something while being very clear that I just want to be friends? First of all, I don't know her very well at all; only talked a couple of times. Secondly she has a boyfriend, so I don't want to look like I'm trying to score.

TLDR: How can a man invite you out and be friends without being creepy, especially if you don't know him well?
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>>18631773
Male, and her not wanting to work and be a housewife instead? I guess that's kind of looked down on these days. Physically I'm pretty open save for a few things like nose or eyebrows that ruin it for me real quick, but I can't really think of a feature I like but is regarded as unappealing. I consider Audrey Hepburn the most beautiful person in recorded history, so if there's something about her most people don't like that would be it.
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>>18631773
Man here
I'm very attracted to proud, individualistic women. If a woman can say, "I'm with you for my own sake; to be happy. I expect you to be with me for your sake; to be happy" then I'll be in love.
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So I had arranged a date with a girl on tinder. We really got along. She cancelled, but seemed really sorry. When I tried to arrange a new date, she didn't respond. She has a mental illness so that might be a reason she didn't feel like responding. Are things over or should I try to reinitiate contact? And if so, how do I do it?
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>>18632482
>she has a mental illness, so that may be the reason
Do not pursue.
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>>18632438
I consider that undesireable.
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To girl:

I have some hair on my chest, especially around my nipples. What are your thoughts on that?

Also I have a few random black hair on my back, they are really hard to catch from a first person view. How repelling do you find them.
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>>18632447
Be honest. If she was single, you would want "more". Ask her on date, but call it "hang out". Then talk about whatever. Who knows, maybe she will ditch her bf in favor of you in time. And if not, you will be exactly where you want to be: in friend zone.

>>18632482
Girls who like you wont gancel dates nor ghost you. And as far as mental illness goes, look here >>18632386 for inspiration, it will be your future if you will date crazy girls.
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>>18632079
Bubbly and excited with everyone, it's just my way of being friendly. Doesn't mean I'm interested.
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Is it normal to ask a friend if he knows any girls that might be interested in me? I don't leave the house much and my contact with girls is sparse to say the least. My Uni friend is pretty social so he might know someone, but I've never had a lot of friends and was a late bloomer when it comes to girls so I don't know what's okay and what isn't.
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>girl adds me on FB
>haven't talked to her in years
>but we were always good friends and I always wanted to date her
>we schedule a time to hang out
>on the way she asks if she can borrow $400
>I do it because I'm stupid
>good meet, hang out for over an hour, fun, etc
>we start talking and texting daily
>next week she asks me for $200
>agree but we get in a mini argument and I ask her if she's using me but also admit that I've liked her and would like to work towards a relationship
>says she isn't ready for a relationship, then when we started arguing about the money, says: "you don't have to give me the money, I'll just struggle for the next month" so she guilts me into giving her another $200
>we meet for lunch, make up, I buy her and her daughter's lunch, give her $200, AND fill up her car with gas because her gas light was on (an extra $30 IIRC).
>she's sent me just a couple of texts since and hasn't talked to me on the phone any
>promises she'll pay me back at tax time
>see her Facebook shit going out to eat with friends and shit even though "she has no money"

I just got fucked over hard, didn't I /adv/?
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Is she into me?
>We SC often, her response time range from 30 seconds to 10 minutes
>I'm usually the one to start the conversation
>She constant sends pics of her smiling while looking at/away from the camera
>She sent me pics of her in the shower (No nudes, neck level) and she was making goofy faces with her tounge sticking out.
>When I told her she was pretty, she replied with "Thanks :):):)"
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Guys, what do you think about girls who are self-proclaimed 'nerds' or 'geeks'?
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>>18632746
Their brother or ex-boyfriend is probably more interesting to talk to than them.
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>>18632746
DEFINITELY attention whores, once a girl says that shit it makes me no longer interested in them
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>>18632746
Looking for attention. If they say "I like video games" without giving themself a label, then you can proceed.
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>>18632744
pls halp
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>>18632753

>DEFINITELY attention whores, once a girl says that shit it makes me no longer interested in them

You sound like a bit of a twat.
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>>18632751
>>18632753
>>18632770
Does how attractive she is make a difference? What if she was cute? What if she was plain and frumpy?
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>>18632781
Attractive girls have legions of beta orbiters that can make wooing her either extreme hell or easy as fuck, depending on which female dysfunctional disorder she suffers from. Plain and frumpy girls are just that: plain and frumpy.
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Girls,
Opinion on platonic friendships?
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>>18632781
does it matter? they are still shallow as a person
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>>18632785
I meant would it make a difference if she were cute and a 'nerd' or plain and a 'nerd'?

>>18632796
I'm just wondering, that's what this thread is for. Maybe a guy would think that a less attractive girl is trying to increase her appeal to guys or something, for example, I don't know. That's why I'm asking.
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>>18632792
I assume you mean platonic male-female friendships?

I've never had a platonic male friend while in a relationship. I'd think it was platonic, then the friend would get either crazy jealous or flirtacious out of nowhere once I started dating, so it was clearly not platonic. Other false-platonics would just drift off and stop talking to me.

It's not that I don't believe it can happen, because I have had male friends I don't have feelings for. I think it's hard to find something truly mutual, I bet some people have had that, I never have.

The only platonic male friendships I have right now, are from my boyfriend's male friends. But that's a different ball park, as I am sure I would just stop talking to them if bf and I broke up.
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>>18632798
people usually see right through a attempt to get attention and dismiss them
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>>18632744
>"Thanks :):):)"

Nope.
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>>18632798
Even if she's into games and anime and other lame shit, if she calls herself a "geek" and "nerd" without any irony or shame she'd probably be into stuff I don't want anything to do with like Game of Thrones or Yaoi fanfic.
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What is short-term dating?

If I'm looking for something to last at least a year but am not dead-set on finding the partner I'll grow old with, and won't have sex until a few months after first meeting the person, should I put long-term only on my online profiles? Or should I include short term with a "warning"?
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>>18632744
Sounds like she is to me
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>girlfriend used to live with me back in January
>broke up but got back together shortly after
>i live with my parents and she lives with hers but things are going decent
>like five days ago says shes looking at apartments with one of her girlfriends to rent
>things are a little shaky for a few days
>get into a small argument thismorning
>wants a night alone, insists she isnt mad and she loves me
>first night in nearly 6 months where one of us isnt spending the night

Im not needy but when something like this happens it just makes me worry. Should i be?
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>>18631950
I hate when people say "what's up?" to me. It's making me do all the work in the conversation.
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>>18631076
dodged a bullet. That girl is dumb
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>ex breaks up with me
>didn't agree to be friends
>maybe it's fine to have her as friend
>weeks later I find out I was cucked

HOLD ME ANONS
FUCKING HOLD ME
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Guy here

How the fuck do I talk to women? For some reason I can talk to guys and spark a conversation ezpz, especially if they're another veteran or the Frat Boy type but with women I just freeze up and I don't know what to say or I spill my spaghetti all over the place even approaching them.

What the fuck is wrong with me? I've always chalked it up to being an uggo
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>>18633053
Seems like you might be dependent on the outcome. Pulling out few cheesy lines, expecting some kind of result.
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>>18633058
What do you mean?
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If I know this girl likes me and I only like her as a friend, and she comes onto me when she's depressed, how do I turn her down without hurting her more.
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Just curious, what is the girl side of a brother/sister relationship like?
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Guys would you rather have...

A girl who is insatiable and gets upset if you don't have sex with her almost every day or suck your dick when she's on her period. But she also gets sad whenever you leave the house.

Or one of those girls who you have to ask for sex, and she's only in the mood if you have done something nice for her lately like take her out, woo her etc. The kind of girl where you have a lot less sex but when you do you feel like you "earned" it?


Please really think about your answer.
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What makes someone "weird"?
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I need some opinions. I used to be a loser who had oneitis really bad and got strung along. I took your advice and moved on from her and got in better shape and have been putting myself out there more.
Currently, I'm going back to college and I'm in the process of moving so everything has been limited to meeting people online and scheduling meet ups when we all get in town.

I met a girl online and have been going back and forth with her for a couple weeks now. We've been trying to schedule a meet up but our schedules won't work out until a week from now. We've been talking every day about all sorts of stuff and insofar as I can tell she's 10/10 GF material. She reciprocates the feelings and I'm convinced this will go somewhere. We're already making plans for the second date.

The thing is, before I started talking to her more I scheduled a couple other dates and I feel sort of guilty going on them. For one, I already feel like I'm twotiming girl A mentioned above if I go out on dates before we meet up. I feel like I'm unnecessarily leading girls B and C on.

I just don't know what to do. I'm not mentally equipped to be a chad and I don't want to turn into the thing that hurt me in the past. Do I try to delay girls B and C until after I actually meet girl A in the flesh or do I just say fuck it and play the field even though girl A and I are catching feelings for each other over the internet?
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QUESTION FOR WOMEN:

Is it humiliating, in a bad way, to give oral sex to a man? Is it gross, I mean, beyond mildly gross?

Please answer in detail. Thank you.
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>>18633109
>having to "earn" sex

jesus fucking christ see a therapist
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>>18633122
don't ask such a vague question
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>>18633134
It depends on the man and how the woman feels about it. I will try to give you my story as an example.

My ex was abusive and would physically and verbally humiliate me, often during oral. He would forcibly push me onto him and it made me feel used. Then laugh at me and brag to his friends. I broke up with him and didn't give head for over 3 full years because I was terrified of it.

Now I am with someone who I trust and I know he respects me. I actually enjoy giving head now. He strokes my hair, says thank you and kisses me even after I've taken his load into my mouth. I feel intimate and appreciated and its almost like a privilege to suck on him.

Sex is really a mental thing and its all about trust.
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>>18633140
I am just wondering because thats how a lot of women talk about sex... they tell me I'm supposed to let the man come to me, and that my sexuality is a powerful asset...and honestly it seems like the way men act that they subconsciously agree.

But thats not who I am inside... and I sometimes get worried that since I always want my man that I seem less interesting compared to women who treat their selves like prizes. My girl friends have made comments about how I give him all the power because I am always the one asking for sex and society makes it seem like its a psychological game that I don't know how to play.

Some of these ideas I also got from reading this book that is very popular among women and its called "why men love bitches" and its literally the opposite of me. But I don't want to change so I just want to know if a man really feels this way or if its just bullshit I shouldn't worry about?
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F here. My boyfriend and I aren't having sex recently. At the beginning of our relationship we were having sex everyday. Now we're been together for a year and its every couple of weeks, if that.
He says he prefers to initiate, because when I initiate he doesn't respond very well because, if he hasn't already initiated, he's not very horny.
I feel like I'm just waiting for him to initiate a lot of the time, which rarely happens. It could be that we're both tired now that we're working more hours than we were at the beginning of our relationship.
But I also worry that our spark has gone or he doesn't find me attractive, which he assures me he does.
I wonder if there's anything he's not telling me that would be affecting his sex drive. I try not to worry about it because worrying would just make us more tense and less likely to have sex but maybe it is something I should be worried about.
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>>18631807
I would say in the situation of the gif you posted, the man can't really hit her back.
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>>18633146
That's a good point.

How do you feel about the act in itself, though? If you were just horny and didn't feel particularly good or bad about the relationship, what do you think the experience would be like?

I consider oral kind of gross to give, but also fun, because my partner enjoys it.
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>>18633187
I don't feel gross about it at all, except the cum itself. I feel disgusted or even ashamed if I have take a stranger's cum into my mouth. But since I love my partner I'm practically addicted to his taste and can't get enough. There are some days, however, when his load tastes bad I assume because of something he ate. In which case like you say, I still swallow because he enjoys it and I like seeing him happy.

Its kind of like spit. You have no problem swapping spit with someone you like, correct? But if a stranger spit on you, that would be humiliating AND disgusting.
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>>18633203
Alright, thanks. It doesn't sound much different to give head to a man as opposed to a woman. Sometimes "eating a girl out" involves swallowing too, and it's a bit gross. I thought it might be some kind of traumatizing experience to eat a dick, but vaginas are pretty nasty too.

If any woman feels different about it, feel free to chime in. Thanks for your help.
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>>18633216
Sure, I mean it can be traumatizing if its part of a bad experience. But its more of the shame that society or the perpetrator puts on you, because giving head should not objectively be a bad thing.
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>>18633155
Just find someone who is a sexual match for you. That includes libido. Not every guy can or wants to fuck 24/7 and if you do then you need to find someone else who does.

Don't ever let your friends talk you into using sex as a power tool because it's a shitty position to put yourself in. On the one hand, you give your sexuality out when you want something, and on the other, guys will only give you attention when they want your sexuality.
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>Girls
How would you feel about dating a guy that at some point of his life has made out with his sister?
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>>18633155
You shouldn't really worry about your friends' opinions on your sex life unless you're fucking kids and they're begging you to stop. A woman can control a guy with sex but it's not a requirement for a healthy relationship. I might also be wrong, but when guys feel like a girl is putting out to easily, it usually refers to the time needed from meeting to fucking. Ultimately a girlfriend wanting more sex is just as much of a challenge to work on for the sake of the relationship as a girlfriend who wants less - although if you want to be an attentive girlfriend, it should be the same with the genders reversed.
And I don't want to drag your friends through the mud or accuse them of something they wouldn't do, but it could also be that they try to correct your behavior because they want everyone in their circle to be as stingy about sex as they are so no union scab can undercut their sex salaries and steal all the customers. It'd be like the circle of friends who orders a high-fat latte behind a woman's back because she started to get in shape.
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>>18632744
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>>18633109
neither.
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>>18633047
this is not what that word means. she cheated on you.
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Where the hell do you meet girls who don't like to go outside?
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>>18633487
>Where the hell do you meet girls who don't like to go outside?
Online.
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>>18633487
You don't. You make them.
You have a basement, yes?
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>>18632624
people who don't know you can't be interested in you.
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>>18633163
Does your partner have a chance to stay active? A sedative lifestyle decreases hormonal production which makes men less eager for sex. Also, ask him if he's masturbating, and if he does, ask him to stop.
Aside from his libido, even if you can't initiate a session there's plenty of things you can do to entice him to act - after all, it's how women have been initiating contact without making the first move for ages. Dress provocative, draw attention to your tits and ass, give him a massage, be coy in your conversations,... There's an infinite number of ways you can make your desire known, ranging anywhere from "I like you" to "Fuck me".
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>>18633495
this
you can ask if he has single friends, nothing more
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>>18633495
It's pretty obvious he means people that the friend thinks he might click with. I feel like people are intentionally dense on this board at times.

>>18633047
Take some time off, find a way to decompress and expel some of that rage. I like to go off the grid for a bit personally.
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>>18633163
welcome to the average male sexual life, deeply enjoy it
post pics, maybe you got fat or ugly
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>>18633468
Wow, well thanks. Good advice.
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to girls: does it matter that a guy shares some of your interests to get into the fuckable zone? or it's exactly the opposite? or doesnt really matter
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>>18633549
If we're solely asking "would I fuck him?" which is what I presume 'fuckable' means, his interests don't matter one iota. What matters is how he looks.
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>>18633552
>What matters is how he looks
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>>18633554
What the fuck were you expecting? If you want to hear that it's what's on the insider that counts, go and cry to mommy.
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>>18633557
i didnt mean ONLY fuck, but what conditions needs to be met not to be unfuckable, like "yeah i could go out with this guy if he asked"
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>>18633559
If that's what you wanted to know, then why didn't you ask that? And to answer your (new) question, the answer is that he's attractive, he has a good personality and I get along with him
>inb4 what does that mean
If you had it, you wouldn't be asking here right now.
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>>18633569
that's fine
so shared interests are outside of the map? doesnt really matter?
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>>18633574
It's not going to guarantee you anything, not even an advantage, if that's what you're hoping. It can be a plus, but it's not important.
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>>18633579
nah im not hoping its a plus, just hoping it's not a disadvantage not to share interests
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>>18632624
Yes. This option is called friends friends. Other are online dating and social events you hate. Go ahead.

>>18632703
It is amazing what some losers will do for promise of pussy in future. Real whore would be cheaper and suck your D dry. You will never see your money or her again.

>>18632744
Ask her on date noob.

>>18632953
That is as long term as it gets. And stop overthinking problems dummy.

>>18632988
You will be okay.

>>18633047
Girls break up long before they tell you and do pic related all the time.

>>18633053
Like to boys. Only at the end you ask for number/date.
http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation

>>18633100
Block her number, social media. Ignore in person. Or force yourself from friendzone by kissing her.

>>18633129
Go on date with her you dum dum.
>shedules dont match
Sure, read romeo and julie, their clans didnt matched. Go see her already dummy!

>>18633155
They are right. Some girls are so awful, so bland, so uninteresting, so cold that their only asset in relationship is sex. Too bad the man sooner or later realize this and simply stop sleeping with his gf/wife and then she is totally lost on what to do when all her problem solving strategies was
>deny him sex

You dont need to turn bitch to secure husband and keep him. You just need to find qtie bf who will like you for more than your vagina. Then even if you turn into succubuss each night, he will still listen to you and obey even without denying sex. Dont fall for generalizations much.

>>18633163
Your love phase ended. Tell him to not masturbate and use your body instead?
>>18632383
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>>18633554
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Women; are there careers that are more attractive than others? I am aware this is highly subjective
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>>18633621
>Women; are there careers that are more attractive than others?
Yes, definitely.
I like people who work in academia a lot. My ex was a mathematician and I thought it was really hot.
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>>18633621
I find bankers and business men the least attractive, because I think that they're money focused (which I don't like). I'd personally find a career where you're either doing something I'm interested in (Archaeology, for example), doing something creative or helping people more attractive than anytthing else.
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>>18633621
Academia, preferably humanities for me. Definitely not lawyers, businessmen or tradies.
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>>18633637
it's a fact that money works for most women tho?
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>>18633621
I can't think of anything that's more attractive, but less attractive are blue collar jobs and stuff in the STEM field.
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>>18633641
>it's a fact that money works for most women tho?
Most women maybe, but not me.
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>>18633654
never said so
would be fair to mention other possibilities, not everyone thinks the same way
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>>18633621
Yes.
High paying jobs, something that doesn't take too much of his time and doesn't give opportunities to cheat.

Sadly I'm currently with a garbageman.
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>>18633647
>study one of the hardest courses there are
>actually have skills which will land you a job even at times of economic crisis
You are less attractive thanks for your superior brain.

Can i ask you what have you studied in?
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>>18633670
Butthurt STEM major confirmed.
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>>18633670
did you have a damage control course in your studies?
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>>18633674
>>18633692
I know, rub salt in more.

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/careers.html
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>>18633621
I find STEM, business and tradies pretty UNattractive. I don't think there's anything that's specifically attractive though.
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>>18633709
you are just giving her a new place to find her a bf.
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>bitches don't find science attractive
That's it. I'm gay from now on.
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>>18633714
You cant win all battles. Sometimes you have to admit you lost and cut losses short. The butthurt got better from me.

Besides some femanons want abusers, drug junkies, neets and "artists" and it is their choice to be single mothers.
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>>18633621
I don't have a specific career I find attractive, however I do find certain mindsets more attractive than others. If a man has chosen a career for purely monetary gains, I would view him as less attractive than a guy who was following his passions but had less cash. Similarly, I would find a man only going into a career out of arrogance (and who treated his career as the only good one) like
>>18633716
>>18633670
To also be unattractive. I appreciate a more mature perspective than "my job is better than yours nah nah nah".
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>>18633716
It's more that STEM majors tend to be autistic or expect 10/10 girls when having next to nothing to offer. The majority of this board are STEM majors and look at what guys here are like. Nothing wrong with science, science is interesting. It's the people that study it that are the problem.
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>>18633716
I don't hate science, I'm doing computer engineering and robotics. I do however think that my classmates (overwhelmingly male) would be god awful to date.
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>>18633742
>>18633749
Fair enough, looks like i still have some growing up to do. Later!
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>>18633756
As evidenced by the reaction in this thread, you and all the other STEM majors need to grow up, learn to think a little more critically and stop taking anonymous responses so personally.
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>>18633767
Sorry. Thanks for a piece of wisdom and self reflection, that is why i am here after all.
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>>18633742
I'm studying STEM so I can have a stable and high-paying job to make sure my family never has to worry about financial issues. Where does that put me?
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>>18633809
>I'm studying STEM so I can have a stable and high-paying job to make sure my family never has to worry about financial issues. Where does that put me?
Somewhere in the "eh" category. I work as well, so I don't particularly need a "provider", but it's a more honourable goal than simple avarice.
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>>18633621
I don't mind too much what he does. I/they can take pride in what they do if it's something work hard at. Ambition and personal growth/progression is attractive, in any field.
I would say something profit driven or in sales is a turn off.

My last two bfs I met during uni and then went on to work in call centres, which I wasn't something I could really take pride in, but it didn't bother me too much as we were already going out when they got the job.
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>>18633503
>>18633614
Femanon with low sex drive bf here. Thanks for replies and link to the other thread, very helpful.
>>18633508
Mm I suspected it might just be normal. I don't think I've really changed. I'm more depressed because of work stress, but he's actually gained weight since we started going out.
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>>18633860
Even though i know generalization is fallacy, it never stops me from being amazed when i read about cases where she wants sex more than him. I guess the social conditioning about horny males and females abusing that fact is strong all around me.

Good luck femanon and whip him into action if you must!
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>Apologise to girl because i was defo out of place in an argument
>She still mad as fuck
The only move i can do is either wait or her to come to me or get another girl right?
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>>18633749
PRECISELY this.
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>>18634085
Ask her on romantic date and pretend the buthurt situation hasnt happened.

If she brings it up, either ignore it (if possible), or say that you are sorry and keep the date. Use cuddling as apologize.
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>>18633716
>all women are the same
Wrong, chem major here.
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>>18634468
>I'm not like the other girls
t. every girl ever
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