>Kimi no Na wa
Obnoxious music insertion, amv tier storytelling, sensationalist garbage dependent on muh earthquake incident, 1-dimensional characters, nonsensical plot, mediocre character animation, half-baked thematic delivery, hackneyed dialogue. Overall it's pretty much the worst anime film of the decade
>Koe no Katachi
Great storytelling, very delicate direction, careful use of sound mixing, complex imagery, actually grounded and realistic except for that one moment, memorable characters, meaningful themes, meticulous character acting. 2016 AOTY.
I still haven't seen Your Name.
Katachi had a way more compelling plot for the first half and then almost fizzled with the melodrama bombs, but managed to pull through by ending better than the manga. Speaking of that, a lot of fat was trimmed from the manga for better or worse. The movie subplot was dropped at the expense of some development of side characters, but the movie was framed as Shouya's journey so it's not too big an issue.
Your Name was fantastic, but its just a remix of 5cm and Voices of a Distant Star with a happier ending for the sake of theater viewers. Unlike 5cm, theres no lasting impression or feeling after you've finished watching. It's undeniably a good movie, but nothing about it really sticks in my mind, and unlike other Shinkai works like Garden of Feet, theres less pretty scenery porn to look at.
>Premiere screening in AX garnered a standing ovation
>Kimi no Na wa becomes a blockbuster hit
>Actually a well paced movie
>Technically impressive in visuals and huge upgrade from his past films
>Satisfying end and memorable protaginists
>Gets screened in many theaters worldwide.
>Blockbuster hit in Hong Kong
>Blockbuster hit in Korea
>9/10 rating from audience
>Becomes the contender for Oscar Nomination
>Pre-screening event in Japan got vocal KyoAni twitter fanbase say good things
>Upon proper screening it was just so-so
>Koe no Katachi gets the scraps of Kimi no Na wa audience
>Gets few more screens but fails to get anything and falls off into obscurity
>8.3/10 rating from the audience
>Lost all the meaning because of unrealistic and unnecessary drama
>Lots of disatisfied manga readers
>Overdone faux-cinematography to make it seem "technical" when in fact it barely added anything to the movies narrative
>Said "cinematography" is actually nothing special and could be done easily in a properly budgeted TV anime
>Gets forgotten by people a few weeks after
>Director doesn't get any awards
Well it's not that it didn't say anything.
But there were so many emotional moments and they were all so similar.
I fucking love the beginning of the movie.
But a lot of what happened felt kinda pointless and messy despite it looking so beautiful.
I just don't like how it was all presented.
They were all crying about the same bullshit for an entire hour.
I realize that the characters are actually kind of nuanced but since the movies runtime didn't give them much time to explore everyone, so they all felt kind of flat to me.
Again, I liked the movie but it was certainly flawed.
It's hard to put into words, maybe it was the dialogues too.
they didn't even share a kiss in neither movie so they both suck
Kino no Na wa > Blur and Chromatic Aberration The Movie
She's like a recent film school grad who just discovered the latest effects and can't help stuffing them in everywhere.
Maybe someday she'll make a professional-looking movie, but not today.
Kimi no Na wawas more captivating experience but I'm already forgetting it just 2 hours after viewing, just like it's main characters were forgetting about their dreams.
Koe no Katachi wasn't that impressive but it's on my mind constantly for 5th day now and I'm now exhausted from reading every appearing thread about it.
It's a shame Koe no Katachi's BDs aren't selling all that much. Contrary to what some lickers and ultimatebetamax want to believe, they did not make much profit from the theater screenings, it was the BDs they had a hand on and also rights to some merch.
The screenings more than doubled the production costs. You have no idea what you're talking about. Kaguya Hime only cost 30 million dollars to make, for example, and that one was clearly a lot more expensive than the average Ghibli film (which in turn is more expensive than the average anime film.)
Being on top doesn't mean you have control over everything or spent the most of every detail of the film's production.
I mean, you can tell who had control over the film's theater run when it was Shochiku that cut screenings almost in half by the third week, despite the movie picking up pace. Koe no Katachi would've definitely grossed over 3 billion if not for that mistake, and it was a mistake on their part since it was their highest grossing film that year.
Then you're only remembering it because of the threads. Kyoanifags spam their shit threads to make that garbage movie more relevant.
The topics are from the most asinine and emptiest things, mind you. Like this one for example >>157685741 "hurr i wanna be bullied DURR"
Even its first post pointed that out >>157685808
Artless craftsmanship. Your name has nothing on par with webm related.
KyoAni and Keit-Ai are established way-finders.
>Yes it does. And it was the best of the three.
I'm not a kyoani fan. I'm an animation fan. That scene has amazing character animation. I'm not going to pontificate about it to every random retard on /a/ who claims they're unimpressed (especially when there's a high chance they're just shitposting.)
I enjoyed Kimi no na wa more, but Koe no Katachi seemed like it would've been a lot better if I had read the manga.
Though I guess if it can't appeal to people who don't already have context, that makes it a less good movie in that respect.
It is similar in tone to Mai Mai Miracle, but with a more cohesive look (no awkward CGI for example). It is nothing like Kiki (which is directed by Miyazaki, not Katabuchi) or Arete.
>Koe no Katachi seemed like it would've been a lot better if I had read the manga.
I had the opposite impression. I'm glad I didn't read the manga which seems to suck the subtlety out of the narrative.
Do you really think it's less impressive than >>157693697
The Your Name scene is just a bunch of nothing with the purpose of showing off, it just looks fake and feels fake and is done like that without a reason.
I understand where you're coming from, but another problem as a manga adaptation was that it lacked the kind of finality that Kimi no na wa had. That said, it's definitely made me want to check out the manga and give it a rewatch after I'm done with that.
Which subs should I go with for each one of these?
>KnK replaced Steins;Gate as #4
>People in threads kept saying nii-sama was better
>Ended up watching it twice anyway because I enjoyed the film
>Multiple lines in Nii-sama version completely wrong
That said I think 35mm didn't translate on screen text for some parts which Nii-sama did.
>watching Kimi No Na Wa on theaters
>seats filled with guys
>can hear them talking about Shinkai
>also talks about Aoi Yuuki and Kana Hanazawa
Normies don't watch this shit in my country because the only animu movie normies would watch are Doraemon movies.
You're the one who seems to be shit posting. That Koe scene looks good but it's nowhere near as impressive as the Kimi scene, the fact that it was made using watercolor already puts it above most sakuga, you don't often see something like that but that Koe scene is very average as far as character acting goes.
>Bunch of nothing
Animating effects as detailed as those tends to be very difficult, more so on watercolor.
Kimi no Na Wa its a good flick, you will have a good time watching it, visuals are nice, the inserts songs are ok but nothing that will let you thinking.
Koe no Katachi is a film. It makes you think, its not made so the audience feels good but so it reflects about the themes presented on it.
Nigga even fucking Shinkai himself admitted that the movie was nothing special.
Shinkai was mostly just afraid that if Kimi no na wa was hailed as a record-setting masterpiece, his following career as a director could be compromised.
He doesn't want to handle the burden that he might have hit his peak.
And if we discard /a/:s opinion due to most of us being contrarians, Kimi no na wa has become exactly what Shinkai feared it would become.
>Watercolour is hard so it must be impressive
The methodology should not have any influence on the end result, that scene has no purpose at all. You can animate anything as complex as you want but if it isn't actually saying anything, isn't showing anything, doesn't even look real, then it's not good animation.
>That Koe scene looks good but it's nowhere near as impressive as the Kimi scene
Absolute pleb. The Kimi no na wa scene is mostly effects animation. Lots of lines jumping all over the place. It's not even the most impressive scene in Kimi no na wa (the sake ceremony by Okiura is miles beter). Goes to show how little you know about animation.
>the fact that it was made using watercolor already puts it above most sakuga
A bunch of inconsequential nonsense. Animation is animation, it's the movement that matters, not what you draw each frame with.
Shinkai was just being humble. Meanwhile you even have Toshio Suzuki of Studio Ghibli praising it and Miyazaki being tsundere for it.
And as for people from KyoAni, Yamakan publicly admitted how butthurt and jelly he is of Shinkai's succcess.
Shinkai was just saying nice things about KnK so that Yamada and KyoAnus would save face since he knew that KnK was gonna be absolutely fucking destroyed by Kimi no Na wa in the box office and in overall accolades, which it was.
Nah, Shinkai has been a Yamada fan for a while. You can stop damage controlling.
>Mitsuha running to her father's office.
Also better than the effects scene above. And the rotoscoping in the sake scene is better than the one at the end of the scene we're talking about (the background animation part is clearly calque).
I haven't watched Your Name yet but I feel like KnK fixed a lot of problems that the manga had, so even if I end up agreeing that Your Name is better when I see it, I'm still gonna think that KnK is a pretty damn good movie since it did a lot of good things in my opinion.
>damage controlling by accusing other people of damage controlling
>backing into a corner after being called out hard
Here's one more for the road. Happy trails faggots.
Koe no Katachi: actually good released in my country
Kimi no na Wa: we only get the fucking manga
Koe no Katachi wins by default
you're gonna have to elaborate on that becasue despite the fact that it dropped some character interactions in favor of focusing on Shoko and Ishida it also got rid of the god awful movie sub-plot that literally did nothing more than to hurt the passing, not to mention that giving Broccoli less screentime might have actually benefited his character since honestly there were time in the manga where he felt too pushy and annoying.
>shaft fans so mad they are spamming threads with anti-kyoani posts
both are mediocre studios for pretentious horny teens and manchilds.
Well, I think Shinkai was the last person in the world to believe that Kimi No Na Wa would become globally the highest-grossing anime movie of all time. From being a relatively minor name in the business, suddenly he beat EVERYONE he has ever looked up to.
Shinkai's burden is now to either make something even better, or to fade away in the shadow of the behemoth. It doesn't matter if the movies you make later are "better", he will always be reminded for the rest of his career that he can't beat Kimi No Na Wa. And that's pretty bad for someone who can have more than 20 years of his career still ahead of him.
What would I be butthurt about? For one, I've actually seen all three movies and know what I'm talking about. You're just a sad guy fishing for (you)s. Notice how I am the only one replying to you, because I am the only one magnanimous enough to reply to such poor bait.
>Shinkai was the last person in the world to believe that Kimi No Na Wa would become globally the highest-grossing anime movie of all time
EXACTLY. He never expected Kimi no Na wa to be THAT huge, so he felt bad for Yamada.
Why would we be playing damage control for a movie and a director that was magnanimously more successful and acclaimed than the one you prefer?
>constantly flaunt whatever accolades and sales KyoAnushit receives
>get presented with works from other studios and directors that get far more critical and commercial acclaim
>gets defensive and says awards and sales don't matter
literally never heard of in the corner of the world
>the scene has no purpose at all
Why do you say this? Have you watched the movie?
>bunch of lines jumping all over the place
And you're telling me I don't know about animation?
>animation is animation,it's the movement that matters
By this logic a circle that is moving at 120fps is better than whatever anime scene you compare it to.
>And you're telling me I don't know about animation?
Yes, you don't. It's very typical of plebs to fawn over effects animation when it's actually a lot less difficult to do than character animation.
The only thing more cumbersome with it is the fact that you have to be careful not to smear the paint while it's still wet, and you can't erase it, unlike pencils. But this comes with knowing how to use a brush properly. Pencil or brush, charcoal or watercolor -- they're just different techniques. As for erasing, you usually do a rough draft in pencil and then paint on new paper after you're confident about which lines you want.
It's obvious you're clueless about this so just drop it already.
>Yes, you don't. It's very typical of plebs to fawn over effects animation when it's actually a lot less difficult to do than character animation.
I find it hilarious how some KyoAni fans can be very hipocritical. You reject every piece of abstract animation from other studios and animators, calling it unnecesary or unrealistic but fawn all over Hyouka's own abstract animation. You're not even aware of this double standard you have.
>This is an even bigger tell of just how clueless you are. I was talking about movement you twit, not "frames per second" not how smooth it is.
And does that webm in the OP not have movement?
>I find it hilarious how some KyoAni fans
Stopped reading here. I am not a KyoAni fan. I'm an animation fan. You're a clueless pleb, nothing else on the matter needs to be said.
It was supposed to be hard to watch and telegraphed a rape encounter, obviously.
Those who got hard watching it have particular tastes, and that's fine, but they got hard because what was meant to be telegraphed as a physical sexual confrontation did so successfully.
Fighting isn't puritanical in form. See: Any wrestling or MMA match. It's an uncomfortable segment to watch because they are actually fighting. It's possibly the most realistic fight between normal people in Anime.
>The movie subplot was dropped at the expense of some development of side characters, but the movie was framed as Shouya's journey so it's not too big an issue.
I disliked the move more because they left in all the characters who ultimately did nothing. Kawai and that faggot red headed dude could have been cut after Kawai gave Shouya that number
>tfw no deaf gf like shoko
Reread the oneshot again and if you still think this scence is great, you are an idiot
Yes the animation is great but there are no meaning behind it. It look like a moeblob doing cute thing and making cute sounds or like another anon said
It's not like Kyoani has full on sakuga scenes constantly, but they are the best when it comes to consistency. Other studios like to have mediocre character animation in non-important scenes because it gets the job done while blowing their load on important scenes. IG and A1 do this most, same as most other studios, Ghibli less so.
If I had to put numbers on it, IG and AI go from between 50% effort and 100% effort into character animation, Ghibli at 60% 90%, while Kyoani operates at a constant 80%
Which you prefer is entirely up to you but I like the consistency of Kyoani. Gives the world a much more solid and realistic feeling.
They have two or three great character animators, but since they make like a dozen shows per season they're spread thin.
>Another nationalist apologetic piece.
I have read the manga. It was explicitly harsh towards the Ultranationalist government. If anything, the title suggests that it tries to tell a story of another 'side' of WW II Japan. Japan that "could have been"; how the MC could have been a painter instead, and so forth. Also, Japan that can endure any hardships thrown at them, including from their own people. It might not seem convincingly done to a lot of foreigners, including me, but for the Japanese it does (which really should have been the other way around, considering the title).
Maybe I'm wrong, but whatever.
I kind of agree, they either removed or played down most gut-wrenching scenes from the manga. Even though the attempted suicide scene looked great, it was too artistic, didn't have that raw feel from the manga.
The movie is about a family who did not want war, how is that apologetic? Apologetic would be a movie about a militant xenophobic family wanting to kamikaze their way into the white house but getting nuked in the process, and telling us we're supposed to feel bad for them.
>Japan this Japan that Japan
Yeah, totally not a nationalist story.
>It might not seem convincingly done to a lot of foreigners, including me, but for the Japanese it does
Could it be because the Japanese are very nationalistic? Really gets my marbles rolling.
>how is that apologetic?
It's hypocritical. It's using some rare exceptions to show an inaccurate, romanticised view of the time. It's the same as say some western film trying to retcon the existence of women handing out cowardice feathers to men who refused to enrol in WW1.
Jingoism was the culture of the day in Japan at that time.
Because they are brainwshed since childs to behave like that, try to talk to a yank, they act like soulles golems, same with brazilians and North koreans.
sure thing paco smith
>hurr look at me i can google translate
Yeah, all the bullying got tone down way too much and that make Shouya redemtion path less impactful
One of the friends who watch with me even ask is Ishida like Shoko as a kid because it feel more like teasing than bullying which i can't blame her for thinking so
>Just because it waves dismayingly at the fascist government at the time doesn't mean the film is not just nationalist apologetics/waxing nostalgia.
Within the context of the time, yes it does. All you did is misusing political concepts you clearly have no understanding of, so that the film fits towards your preconceived ideological framework, and should be filtered from your PC thought. As a result, your argument is unconvincing, generalized, and as vague as any politically-correct, fake criticism.
This is your anime director for the night, say something nice to her!
I prefer KnK for the direction and character acting, but Kimi no Niwa wins in the animation (slightly) and plot. They are both fantastic for different reasons. It's a shame they will always be compared like this just because they came out around the same time.
Just retire already, your directing style resembles a graduate student who just pirated Magic Bullet Looks. Your cookie cutter framing and dutch angles are overused. Please, please Yamada-san, get pregnant, form a family, and stop infecting KyoAni with your amateur directing.
Kimi no Na wa may be a bit clichéd and simple in terms of plot, but it works as a movie. KnK is a fucking mess with that amount of retarded melodrama compressed into a movie. They literally couldn't have picked a worse medium.
Kimi no Na Wa > Koe no Katachi
Kono Seaki is the best movie for me but If I have to pick one from those two, it will be Kimi no Na Wa.
Koe no Katachi just mediocre and full of annoying characters. My Life as a Zucchini is better movie that deal with similar subject.
Characters = Kimi no Na wa, simply for the fact that they're not spread thing and only really focus on the two, Half of Koe's side characters are irrelevant to the movie adaptation.
Plot = Kimi no Na wa, more original, better structured and created from the ground up to be a movie, unlike Koe which is an adaptation and has quite a few pacing issues.
Animation = Kimi no Na wa, had more and more impressive sakuga, yes this is including character acting. Kinda annoyed by people thinking Koe was better here. Literal industry legends worked on Kimi no Na wa, you just can't compare KyoAni's inhouse animators to them.
Sound and Music = Koe no Katachi, Kimi's OST was catchy but generic pop trash. Koe's soundtrack really blends well with the theme of the movie.
>KyoAni haters when KyoAni sells more
>muh sales don't matter
>muh can't polish a turd
>KyoAni haters when KyoAni sells less
>HAHAHA flop flop flop flop
>the animation on this other movie makes it a masterpiece
I can do the same thing, look
>Kyoani drones when KyoAni sells more
>FINDS A WAY FINDS A WAY
>HOW CAN OTHER STUDIOS EVEN COMPETE
>KyoAni drones when KyoAni show does't sell
>MUH KYOANI STORE
>WHO CARES THEY STILL PROFIT MORE
>the animation on this other movie is bad because it's not Kyoani
To be honest sales don't matter in most other shows made by other studios. You have shit like Naruto that sells fuckall discs but it's more succesful and popular than every Kyoani anime combined. You don't even have to go that far with mainstream anime. Reddit Zero light novels and merch are killing it at the moment, the franchise is huge, bigger than any recent Kyoani series, including Free and Chuu2 S1, despite the BDs not selling as much as either of those.
Kyoani either adapts their own unknown LNs that no one buys, or buys the anime rights for someone else's novel. If a KyoAni show flops in disc sales that's pretty much it.
KyoAni shop merchandise is comprised of pins, keychains and posters, they may sell enough for 1 or 2 episodes worth of budget but I don't really see them making the big bucks like with a franchise like LoveLive or Macross for example.
Irrelevant with late night anime, Kyoani just as any other studio makes 0 profit from that. In the case of Kyoani whatever profit they make off of international and national broadcasting rights goes to ABC Asahi.
The two movies don't really have a similar vibe to them in any respect really.
KnK was a redemption story and Your Name was a star-crossed lovers story in a sense. Broad, but they both had a lot of elements to them.
Personally - and from what seems to be the aggregate opinion from many reviewers - KnK had an emotional backbone to it that was a lot stronger than Your name. The emotional themes in KnK were ones that a lot of the audience could really relate to; bullying, guilt, loneliness/isolation, self-loathing, desperation and fear, the longing to be accepted and loved. Those elements really were woven together into a story that had a unique spark to it with the characters and their situations and perspectives. The framework for all of this was solidly built with honesty as the main policy. The director wanted to drive home this story to the heart with these down-to-earth ideals and I think they pulled it off, I was impacted by the ending for sure.
Your Name was a much more fantastical movie - still tried to remain grounded - that delved into what people want to believe in, rather than what they're faced with everyday. Shinkai really wanted to make a movie that made people laugh for amusement, chuckle out of embarrassment and maybe cry with joy at some parts. The different timelines and the star-crossed lovers theme was a little magical but I think Shinkai made it comfortable in that we we're hoping all along it would turn out alright in the end.
Technical aspects for both movies were great. Your Name knocked it out of the park with pure, fantastic visuals, polished characters and settings, and KnK had beautiful character animations with realistic and immersive settings for the story. The music in KnK was a tad better with timings and choice of musicality, the OST in the finale was gripping and super-impactful.
I personally like KnK more but Your Name was great in it's own right.
What the fuck? this scene has some serious sexual undertones added to it, the original had none of this shit, this fight was supposed to be hard to watch instead of making you hard watching it.
>Shinkai was mostly just afraid that if Kimi no na wa was hailed as a record-setting masterpiece, his following career as a director could be compromised.
That burden weighs heavily on him. He isn't used to this amount of praise.
The right because it has pretty much better everything overall. It's a movie telling a movie-length story. You can see it in the LN which is also pretty short. KnK movie feels like an adaptation of a manga so it feels dragged at places and with a payoff that is nowhere as powerful as Your Name.
I want shaftcucks to fuck off back to /b/.
Your Deen-tier meme studio is long past its prime and is only shilled by a handful of the type of hipster kiddies who think random splatters on a canvas are the artistic equivalent of Rembrandt or Da Vinci. Fortunately most anons (and audiences) are catching, and it won't be long before your massa Aniplex figures out A-1 is making them more money now and pulls your life support plug.
I saw knk and was really just underwhelmd, i don't buy 90% of these relationships, and so much of nothing happens in the movie, also it was pretty confusing.
kimi no na wa is just a better film, i actually gave a shit about what was going on.
Both in animation quality, actor's works, direction, soundtrack, and content, Koe no Katachi is a clearly better film than Kimi no Na Wa (and you'd have to watch a lot of films, not just animation, to understand the qualitative difference.
People don't understand what is going on with Koe no Katachi's soundtrack, if they haven't heard Johann Sebastian Bach's Invention, Steve Reich, or Dead or Alive, and are watching it online with bad audio. It's the same thing with its animation; if people aren't careful enough, they don't see the quality in people's movements (particularly walking or running) which is rather poor than average in Kimi no Na Wa (even ripples in the river with koi fishes and fruits falling after an emotional brawl scene was stunning in Koe no Katachi), as well as cinematographic techniques involving framing, lighting, focus and blurs (which is very sophisticated and interesting in Naoko Yamada's direction. Makoto Shikai is a good and respectable director who I admire, and he has great challenging spirit considering that he started making animated films on his own, but ...)
I would have liked Kimi no Na Wa more if it had better animation, better voice acting, better use of cinematography and soundtrack (although its signature song is very nice), and content (if only it had a sort of bitter-sweet growing up ending, with the main character choosing to date the senpai and the memory slowly fading, as the happy ending was a bit too forced to fully enjoy for me! And also, it poorly addressed one issue which is acute in Japan, which is how to deal with fading memories of the lost ones in a natural disaster; Shinkai fell short on properly facing the issue although touching on it).
lmao, people are finally starting to react to this film, and it just confirmed my suspsitions that the shit directing makes everything so much more confusing then it has to be.
I pin point exact scenes that where poorly done and wouldn't communicate well with people who haven't read the manga, and i'm right.
The look of confusing at all these poorly communicated, "artsy" directorial choices, it's just sad really.
viewers genuinely have no idea whats going on half the time, they don't understand character motivations or actions, it's just a mess.
Shits a bust, blame yamada.
>retards can't understand shit
No way. Teach me more.
Pic tangentially related.
Still gonna respond seriously: I'm a filthy secondary and had no problems following the story.
I had seen how new viewers where confused by the film when i showed it to some friends, I looked this up so i could actually show, how the horrible direction fucking ruined it.
>t-they don't get my sony vegas effects splattered all over the screen for no reason!! They are just dumb
Nah dude, these are just regular people, the goal of the film is to hit said people but 9 times out of 10 these regular people don't even understand what's happening.
Maybe this movie was unironically too intelligent for the average person.
I don't get it, didn't feel that way to me and I'm no genius.
Still, an average youtuber is below average intelligence so that may be skewing it a bit.
THERE IS NOTHING INTELLEGENT ABOUT THIS FILM.
It is very simple, straight forward and emotional, at least it would be had the direction not been shit, so many unnecessary cuts, and poor story telling, show scenes out of place on context, poor stitching, it's just a mess.
I have seen both in theatres (britbong here) and they are both amazing. I gave Kimi an 8 and KnK a 9 since I slightly preferred it. It more or less comes down to what you want out of a movie.
Regardless of what you say, I know for a fact that anyone who claiming having not read the manga before it is partially lying. "Spoilers" were everywhere here, moreso when the thing was being serialized, people posting manga pages and quoting events from the series. I didn't read the manga either but I had a pretty clear idea of the plot of this movie, the twists and ending.
I honestly can't tell if this movie is too smart or just too unclear, but if people who actually went in fresh to see the movie are complaining, I guess we should at least consider the posibility of the movie not being well executed.
It's not lying, it's not adding additional info.
If you want to know this additional info: I only knew the girl is mute, gets bullied and her confession doesn't come through (from PV though, not /a/. you have to be retarded/like spoilers to visit threads of things you haven't watched yet).
Still not sure how it helps, every single one thing I knew got spelled out so clearly in the movie I doubt anybody could misunderstand them.
Nothing about the 2nd half of Kimi no Na wa made any sense and relied on the sentimental soundtrack and superficial emotional scenes to carry it through. I think if anyone claims they understood what was going on and have a logical explanation for all of the plot they are lying to themselves.
>I think if anyone claims they understood what was going on and have a logical explanation for all of the plot they are lying to themselves.
That could be because you are retarded.
>you have to be retarded/like spoilers to visit threads of things you haven't watched yet).
I didn't. But the manga was popular here and you couln't help but catch a glipse of a page or spoiler when scrolling through
KnK could unironically be one of the worst anime movies ever made.
Usually even bad movies have a somewhat functional script, and are trying to tell a story appropriate for a movie length.
KnK tries to rush through 7 volumes worth of content in 2 hours, and thinks that cutting some fluff while leaving intact every major plot point and the entire huge cast of characters is enough to turn a serialized narrative into an effective film.
If this where true there wouldn't be some many reviewers and nomries complaining about the lack of clarity and confusion as to why characters do what they do, or what's even happening.
You can't just call everyone stupid and pretend their reactions aren't valid.
Seems like the biggest complain for KnK is it doesnt follow the manga close enough. It followed it very closely, like 88% of the manga was in it. I dunno why people really care about the movie making McGuffin part to trash the movie to that extent.
Your Name was a mini epic or exaggerating of grass is greener on the other with world class animation and and great sound track while Silent Voice is a story of extreme potential suicidal bullying with top grade animation and good sound track.
Guess I'm a genius then. Gonna put in on my CV.
>Seems like the biggest complain for KnK is it doesnt follow the manga close enough
Apparently you can't read.
>It followed it very closely, like 88% of the manga was in it
And that's exactly the problem.
> KnK has too much content of the source material and because the source material was bad the movie is bad
>KnK has not enough content of the source material and because the source material was good the movie is bad
Gordon Ramsay: HEY! KYOANI! C'MERE YOU!
KyoAni: Y-yes chef?
GR: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!
KA: I-it's our adaptation of Koe no Katachi chef...
GR: Koe no Katachi... A seven volume manga. Did you remember to cook it to 2 cours?
KA: W-we thought it'd be better if we shortened it down to a movie chef.
GR: A movie?! A FUCKING 2 HOUR MOVIE FOR A 7 VOLUME MANGA?!
KA: W-we thought it'd be better to trim the fat off the story chef.
GR: Oh bloody fucking hell! It needed less fat trimmed off than Lindsay fucking Lohan! WHAT ABOUT SHOYA AND SHOKO'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROPERLY ADAPT THAT IN A FUCKING MOVIE?!
KA: W-we decided to show more scenes of the other secondary characters to make fans happy chef.
GR: OH MY GOD! 86 THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT! GET OUT!
The Koe no Katachi anime and manga are completely different experiences. The plot points are the same but the craft in the film makes a completely different story to the point that you can't even consider the film an adaptation beyond the conceptual level or even a "film" itself, it's an abstract audiovisual representation of the five senses.
yuzuru is made to be protected not lewded
Neither. Kimi got dethroned by a Special Destroyer.
**1位/**1位 (***,**0 pt) [*,**0予約] 17/08/30 【Amazon.co.jp限定】「劇場版 艦これ」Blu-ray限定仕様 (購入特典:「アニメ描き下ろしイラスト使用金剛4姉妹高画質バスタオル(130cm×70cm)」&早期予約購入特典「『劇場版 艦これ』 携行式小型補給缶」付)
**2位/**2位 (*37,424 pt) [*,*25予約] 17/07/26 「君の名は。」Blu-rayスタンダード・エディション(早期購入特典:特製フィルムしおり付き)
>Subtle use of filmic techniques like sweepaway shots and depth of field
>visual composition heavily structural with 2x2 and 3x3 filmic grid in mind
>HERE'S MOTION BLUR, BLOOM, REFRACTION AND CHROMATIC ABERRATION, DOESN'T THIS LOOK PRETTY
I actually can't believe how many retards there are that don't understand basic concepts of filmmaking spouting off this much nonsense.
Now that the japs decided to edit the image to compare the same western model used in the original image with an equal japanese model instead of an ugly girl you move the goalpost.
I wanted to like KnK, I really did, but as soon as I saw the MC I immediately thought of that cunt ass bitch shit from Reddit:Zero and the film was instantly ruined for me, I mean fucking seriously? 0/10 it wasnt even good, KyoAnusniggershitters BTFO once again as usual, if you liked this movie your an idiot.
Just watched KnK and it was disappointing. Sure it's pretty and important scenes were well produced, but only if you ignore the way they are poorly stitched together with nowhere near enough character development to justify the characters' reactions to many of the events. It's like a bad recap movie.
I understand why it could feel like that, the buildup to
Xs falling was more intense because the manga spent forever in ishida's head, but the anime doesn't have time to be inside his head all that much. And i don't think ishida cried in the manga during that scene, so it's a little more jarring to see him cry in the film when there weren't any peaks into his mind.
Kiki no na wa requires you to suspend your disbelief way too much while also trying to be completely straight. I just could not get into it. I also felt the whole everyone works together to save the day ending was really out of place and I am starting to hate that shit.
Koe no katachi does have some convenient coincidences but the overall story had much more of an impact on me.
I enjoyed Your Name more.
That said Yuzuru is best girl
I have NEVER in my whole life of watching anime, korean drama and generally tv series/shows etc. Hated a character as much as I hate Ueno Naoka.
This bitch deserves N-O-T-H-I-N-G
She is a selfish, egocentric piece of shit that destroyed both shokos and shouyas life. If it wasn’t for her it wouldn’t be this bad! I really don’t know why people like her… She’s the worst.
>I never heard of her until this movie.
She was responsible for K-On, love it or hate it, it is one of the most influential modern anime of the last decade, since every other studio started cramming out moeshit for years to try replicate its success.
Koe no Katachi is easily the best one desu
Koe no Katachi, Tamako Love Story, The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, The Wind Rises
Anthem of the Heart, K-On! Movie, Wolf Children
Disappearance, Garden of Words, Hana to Alice, Miss Hokusai
A Letter to Momo, Boy and the Beast, From Up on Poppy Hill, Garakowa, High Speed
Arrietty, Berserk trilogy, Evangelion 3.0, Kizumonogatari I, Rebellion, Your Name