/a/ character chart

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Here's how it will look like with gimp

Move Eren Jaeger left to (70,50).

As much as an insufferable faggot he is, he didn't actively go out of his way to boost his ego or even purposefully hurt people, like Bert/Reiner. He just whines too much.

>>157309001
please fix yotsuba

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Where does he go?

I don't really see why people like Griffith and Homura are so far up the deserved side. Sure they did bad things, but mostly only after their suffering. Neither really deserved it when it happened.

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>>157309007

>>157309061
The position or the image? If it's the image I'll fix it later, that chart is just an example

>>157308954
You forgot to write "im a gigantic pleb who's only watched 50 anime" on the header.

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>>157308954
20,5

>>157309130
I meant 5, 20.
He deserved it a bit (5), and quite suffers (20).

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suffering: 80
deserved: 90

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>>157308954
>Touma that far into "deserved it"
For what purpose?

>>157308954
>Yui Hirasawa

Literally Tsukasa Hiiragi suffered more than her.

>>157308954
>Subaru pretty damn close to top right
y tho

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>>157309171
When you're betrothed to Misaka, your life is full on suffering.

>>157309100
the image, there's a lot of aliasing

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>>157309097
Makes sense. But wouldn't their bad actions, even after the suffering part, make them deserve "more"? In a way that what happened wasn't deserved but what happens in the future will?
You're probably right though, I'll change them after this one

>>157309130
>>157309168
added

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>>157308954
I didn't see Chirico on the list, but i wonder how suffering he is?

>Live only to fight
>Was on the run and everyone wants to kill him
>Has someone who genuinely love him. But she's ded
>Has friends who cared for him, but he don't want his friends get caught on his constant danger
>He just can't die. Yet he is not powerful.
>He's all alone. Wandering around while people are out there trying to kill him because muh space catholic taboo.

>>157309346
Dio should be lower. He didn't suffer that much other than a shitty childhood.

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>>157309346
I'd put it farther to the top left if i could but the closest open spot it 5, 80

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30 suffering

100 deserving

>>157309190
That's why she's on 0 suffer, boy

>>157309212
Even if you hate Re:zero you have to agree that he suffered a lot, especially with his mental breakdown after meeting Betelgeuse

>>157309292
uh.. thanks

>>157309346
>Tomoko that low
I'd say she's about D90 and S85 since her suffering is fair most of the time, only except those little occasional devilish moments.

>>157309190
>Tsukasa

30 x 20

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Last spot for 0 suffering goes to this

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Deserve 75
Got 0

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85 suffering
10 deserved

I think Akira's coordinates are backwards and he's supposed to be 100 suffering, 20 deserved it because he took an awful lot of shit to be way down there.

Sayaka from Madoka?

>>157309529
Some faggot posted Y X and ended up putting a lot of people in the wrong place.

>>157309511
she has some suffering ; she has to pay her debt to the lemon cafe or else

>>157309550
That's why you should just type it out, like >>157309168
>>157309475

>>157309475
Admittedly he spared some of the people who didn't resist.

Uzuki is way too high on the suffering scale, she should be about 40 points lower.

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30 suffer
10 deserve

>>157308954
Why does Subaru deserve 70 suffering? Everything in the anime was literally orchestrated by the clown.

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>>157309420
Isn't he the guy that lost his memories aswell?
I'd say he's 80-90 suffering but I have no idea if he deserved it or not

>>157309422
Alright, he went down 2 blocks.

>>157309449
Done

>>157309496
>S85
Really?

>>157309475
Done

Sorry guys I'm slow

>>157309617

Hey, someone had to make his food while he was researching.

>Emergence not at 100 suffering

YEA OK

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Where is Okabe Rintaro?
In S;G he should be suffering 80, deserving 60, but in S;G0 it turns out to suffering 100, deserving 0

>>157309674
He could've had his undead do that, they did everything else.

>>157308954
Is there a particular reason Misogi is 0/0?

>>157309694
@ s40d20

I agree that it should be higher though, at least on the s-scale. D-scale is okay where it is, he is kinda a fag sometimes.

>>157309673
Can you lower oberstein on the suffering scale?

He is 99% emotionless, that's the whole point of his character. Someone without emotions can't suffer.

He deserves to be at sub-15 suffering. (only above 0 because of his dog and him dying towards the end).

>>157309712

I'm not sure skellies are the best choice for chefs.

>>157309673
>sakura is still that hight

she is maybe 30-40 more not

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>>157309501
>for 0 suffering
but...but... she did suffer

>>157309511
Done

>>157309520
Done

>>157309529
>>157309550
>>157309585
Fixed

>>157309759
Only one way to find out.

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35 suffering, 15 deserve

>>157309673
>diavolo
>literally and figuratively dying forever endlessly
>only 40 on the suffering scale
>deserved it more than dio

>>157309520
Deserving should be at least 20 or 30.
No god should reincarnate as a human, ever. Especially because she was just a little curious.

>>157309769
She was raped an abused from the age of 6. She suffered far more than most on that chart. She's in the right place, though she might need to be moved to besides Kitami, as she did kill all those people as the shadow.

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Why is nagato that high? We know she does suffer because of the haruhi movie but it's not THAT bad.

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Put daiz to the right of Umaru. It should make it more /a/.

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>>157309792

>literally no quality control for this shit at all
>nonsensical placements getting locked in left and right
Yeah I'm out.

>>157308954
Yui deserves nothing but cake and hugs.
Fuck you

>>157309803

Pretty sure the guy editing the pic at the time got the coordinates mixed up.

>>157309780
Fuck, I meant 0 deserve

>>157309805
She just wanted to repay the mankind for their kindness and help them tho.

>>157309780
He probably meant the last 0 deserved spot for Nina.

>>157309819
He's so much to the right side of the scale that he doesn't appear on the picture

(10-15, 20-25) square

wtf? that should be a wee bit higher

>>157309807
being abused doesn't make you 70 tier
illya got abused too fucking retard and sakura let herself got raped because "muh worms need mana" even that it got retconned in the VN fucking retard, other character got worse treatment with losing parents and sakura is also a shitty mass murder

>>157309780
Keep up the good work. Can't wait for finished product.

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>>157309536
But where

>>157309639
I'll lower her

>>157309653
Done

>>157309665
>Everything in the anime was literally orchestrated by the clown.
Uh really? I didn't see him planning anything in the anime (only subaru's death though)

>>157309689
She didn't suffer THAT much man

>>157309694
>>157309728
Where in the S scale would you guys put him?

>>157309715
We need someone special for 0/0, any suggestions?

>>157309780
>Done
remove this, >>157309520
not anime

>>157309922
see
>>157309748

>>157309848
He should also change Diavolo's pic. That's Buccellati's soul inside Diavolo's body the chart is using.

>>157309901
Ignoring the obvious sakura-hate, where should Illya go on this chart, and would we count Prisma Illya as the same or separate?

>>157308954
Fuck off cancer.

>>157309922
>I'll lower her
and I forgot ugh, I'll do it now.

Sorry guys I'm little bit slower than you

>>157309934
I was thinking about that, the art was too nice

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>>157309922
this nig for 0,0

>>157309817
>vol1
>stabbed by 8 metal rods
>vol4
>Kyon rejects her true wish to become human and to feel love because Kyon "miss Haruhi or something"
>vol5
>15 hundreds of summer
>not that high

>>157309934
Fate extra has an anime in the winter season, faggot.

>>157309171
I'm wondering the same thing. I guess the argument could be made that he gets involved with stuff knowing that it'll get him into trouble and so he reaps what he sows, but I still don't think that justifies him being that far to the right.

>>157309957
>>157309985
It is a thing.

>>157309922
>Uh really? I didn't see him planning anything in the anime (only subaru's death though)
Roswaal hired Elsa, hired the beast tamer to attack the village kids, knowingly disappeared when the witch cult attacked even though he could blow them all the fuck out, all because he was following his own gospel. But even disregarding that Subaru was just cleaning shit up the whole time so I don't understand why he would have a deserve more than 50.

>>157308954
can this thread die, /co/ raped the concept, we never finished our own chart because quantifying suffering was retarded

if you dont want to stick to the calculator and guidelines from last year its just a fucking joke

>>157309957
Dont forget
>>157309798

You could put Isaac/Miria somewhere along the 0 suffering but deserves some line.

0/0 seems somewhat pointless. Plenty of characters fit it but there's no reason to put them on this chart.

>>157309817
How is 600 years of repeating the same exact events not that bad? Most people watching Endless 8 couldn't even stand sitting through the entire thing, which only lasts 3 hours in total.

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>>157308954
Where does Pitou go?

>>157309922
>Where in the S scale would you guys put him?

At least 70, maybe even 80.

His best friend got point-blank ranged shot in the head by the phone bitch, then crushed by a train several times repeatedly in front of him. His lover got stabbed twice. He is repeating time over and over to save his love ones and beat mega-corp of CERN and prevent WW3. And that's just S;G. Haven't even read/watched S;G0 yet.

>>157309673
He don't lost his memory. Though how he came to be is quite a mystery in itself.

As for deserving. Here's how it happened.

>In the beginning, He saw a girl on a capsule (Who later becomes his love interest).
>He then was interrogated by secret service because he saw their secrets
>He's on the run after being harshly interrogated.
>Along the way, he get himself mangled by some people who want to use him for thug things. But after some incident, they decide to help him, and later, become friends.
>He met with the girl again. Started as enemies, but after a few clashes and meeting in personal, they like each other.
>After many stories went by, He was revealed by the secret service that he's the son of god.
>He left his friends and girl, turned heel and starts working for the god he's destined to be replaced.
>But it was all a ruse so he can kill god. And be a free man instead of doing his bidding.
>He went cyrosleep in space together with his girl. So that nobody can use them for war.

That's good and all, then the sequel happens

>Some space catholics woke them up and separate them
>The girl can only live for a moment because lacking the material needed to stay alive (She's sorta modified human)
>He went out on a journey to at least bring her back to sleep again. Facing space catholics that want to kill him
>He was too late, his girl is ded
>He wanders around, being alone.
>He discovers his old friends. All married and has children.
>But when he's around them, the enemy still chasing him to kill him. So he has to leave them in fear that his upbringing will ruin his friends's happy life
>He just keep on wandering. Alone.

I don't think he deserved it, but what do you think?

>>157309922
Go to bed, Chris.

>>157308954
What the fuck did Touma do to deserve all that suffering? He's literally onlyt fighting to make sure everyone goes home smiling.

>>157310061
In the trash. Fuck off.

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>>157309922
>We need someone special for 0/0, any suggestions?

Chiyo

>>157308954
We did this before, we discussed it to death before, and we agreed that Kodaka Hasegawa was suppose to be right above Yamcha in this chart, of course by taking this chart standards on count, and the point is that this chart suck balls,very hairy balls.

>>157308954
But who is the 100/100?

>>157310061
The fuck is with all these eceleb shills lately? Mcfucking kill yourself.

Just put Saitama at 0/0.

>>157310035
Med suffering, low-med deserve, it was only doing what it was born to do.

>>157310098
Homura.

Then make Madoka 0/0

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This man needs to be somewhere at 100

>>157310111
Saitama had a decent amount of suffering to get to where he is though. And he still has some.

>>157310146
>workout routine
>suffering
Hit the gym some time fatty.

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>>157308954
>Sakura and Kayneth above Archer
Nothing forced by /co/cancer can ever be good.

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where does he go?

>>157310098
Diavolo fits 100/100 pretty well

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>>157309922
>>157310098
I'd put Kumagawa to 100/100, he is a cunt and probably killed himself at the end.

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>>157309748
Alright, I'll fix it.

>>157309769
>>157309807
How about Sakura going from 70 to 55?

>>157309817
Fixed

>>157309798
Done

>>157309803
Last thread a lot of requests did "Y,X" isntead of X,Y. He probably was one of them, fixed.

>>157309868
>>157309876
Alright

>>157309911
Thanks anon

>>157310137
But Homura has two stages of suffering/deserved which become inversed. At first she suffered a lot while not deserving it, and then in the end of Rebellion she didn't really suffer at all because she became pseudo-god but arguably deserved it because muh evil.

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>>157309922
suggesting Clannadgirl a couple spots above her dad, Clannadman

>>157310206
Sakura being on the same level as Kitami makes sens as both were raped and abused. The difference is Kitami fully embraced the evil while Sakura never did.

>>157310180
But /a/ started it first

Dont forget simon and kamina from ttgl

>>157310254
And finished it, last year. Then /co/ found out about it.

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I wish we could ctrl+f images. Sorry if this is posted already.

Avilio Bruno/Angelo Lagusa for (70, 70).

>>157310206
>those terrible artifacts and fucked aspect ratio

>>157310206
That girl with sufferring 100, deserving 10 is from H2O?

>>157310033
>How is 600 years of repeating the same exact events not that bad?

She doesn't care though.

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>>157310206
don't know how many here remember Akemi from Saikano
jilted lover killed in the war robot apocalypse
S95 D15, or wherever upper left

>>157310177
>fights to the death with crab man
>workout routine would actually be really bad for his body for a while
>fights a bunch of other monsters before he is invincible

present time
>enjoyed all the fights he had while training and wants a challenging opponent but it doesn't exist
>bald

>>157310302
Read the thread, faggot.

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>>157310089
I'd like to second Chiyo for the 0/0 spot

>>157310206
Move Touma to 45 deserving. He really didn't deserve that much.
Also, >>157310183 goes at (65,60), I believe.

>>157310321
Is that the girl with the machine gun hand?

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S: 50
D: 90

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Hidamari wideface for somewhere around (0,0)

Youtsuba would be better than Chiyo at 0/0 spot.

If Ed is on there Alphonse should also be. Higher suffering/less deserving.

>>157310331
On a scale of 0 to 100 with every other anime character in existence Saitama's suffering is relatively nothing. You can't even call it suffering when he completely willfully chooses to do all those things, and is rewarded by becoming an invincible god.

>>157310035
Fuck pitou, Pouf suffered alot more did he did and that nigga deserved it.

>>157308954
>/co/ made this

>>157310206
Nah dude, change Nagato back. She has to be at least an 80 on the suffering scale.

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>>157310371
No, the girl with machine gun hand is Chise (female MC).
Male MC jilts (but consoles) Akemi on her deathbed in favor of Chise. Brutal scene.

>>157310281
/a/ never finished it
They just abandoned it

>>157310438
/co/ made the template, retard.

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>>157310462
oh god
Chise for S100 D100

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Uncle Juice was a good man before he was forcibly warped into who he is now. Guy was still lamenting about that moment in some of his crazy quotes
Put him at 70 range and for how much 17-18 for how much he deserved it

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>>157309949
If you can give me a new pic I'll change it

>>157309980
But isn't >>157310089 better for 0/0?

>>157310008
Is that in the LN? Didn't know that. But Subaru was still kind of an asshole, I'll remove some deserved blocks though.

>>157310014
>can this thread die
yes

>>157310036
Alright

>>157310035
I agree with >>157310117
Putting her on S50 D35

>>157310041
Doesn't seems to me that he deserved it. He had bad luck, even when he abandoned his friends. How about S60 D10?

>>157310047
Ok mom

>>157310054
Should we lower his deserving? What deserving would be acceptable?

>>157310089
Anything is better than Misogi

Guys, there are 2 metamorphosis girl in the chart, which one should we remove?

>>157310407
Well yeah his suffering isn't high. I'm just saying it's definitely not 0.

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Suffering: 70
Deserved: 10

>>157310507
suffering*

>>157310254
>>157310499

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>>157310534

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>>157309780
30 suffering
10 or 20 deserved it.

>>157310517
>>157310380

>>157310520
You said a "decent" amount of suffering when on this chart it should be like a 10, 20 tops.

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Suffering 30
Deserved 10

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>>157310540
>>157310499
/co/ made the new template
/a/ made the original
/co/ just finished it first

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>>157310206
surprised not to see any Meducas or Yuyuyus yet

Still need Brook for >>157300914
I'd put him at 0,60

>>157310370
This. He's certainly no saint, but he was always well intentioned and had to be pushed into his biggest sin. It might even be worth bumping him up to 100 on the suffering side as well, since his trial was just a more difficult and hopeless version of Subaru's.

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>>157310517

>>157310517
>Is that in the LN? Didn't know that. But Subaru was still kind of an asshole, I'll remove some deserved blocks though
That still doesn't explain why he has 70 deserve when all he's doing is fixing problems caused by someone else.

>>157310667
Homura @ 65,65

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>>157310517
Kirino S10 D75
Kuroneko S30 D20

>>157309922
Sayaka should be either just above or just below Homura. Thoughts?

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>>157308954
>Diavolo
>40% suffering
>100% deserved it
What? This guy is dying infinitely and had one of the shittiest childhood. Dio deserved much more his fate than him and suffered way less.

>>157310795
>Kuroneko S30 D20

suffering is too high, 20 at most

>>157310821
It was fixed, people fucked up the coordinates.

>>157310517

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>>157310517
suffering 30
deserved it 50

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>>157310146
Uh somewhere around 100 is too vague, anon

>>157310197
I don't think he suffered 100, anon

>>157310224
Done

>>157310298
Done

>>157310310
Her name is Yuuko Amamiya

>>157310321
Done

>>157310370
Too many complains about Touma, changed him. and added the other one

We need some mild assholes for the lower part guys

>>157310632
Damm their version is so perfectly polished

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S60 D10

>>157310350
But Chiyo occasionally suffers. Obviously not Guts-level suffering, but still bullying by Tomo and Yukari.

>>157310804
Maybe, but Homura is way out of position right now. She should be up near the top left corner somewhere, she did literally nothing to deserve what she went through.

>>157310869

>>157309001
This isn't the finished version

>>157310035
70,25
she hardly suffered.

>>157310872
How the hell does she deserve even a little?

>>157310206
Touma
100 suffering, only because it stops at 100.
For deserving, since the other characters aren't cemented yet I'll just say he deserves it more than Okabe but less than Yamcha.

>>157310804
Homura's suffering is too low, unless it's an average of the TV+movie or something. She went through something like 20 years of failed time loops but apparently that's well below a guy who pissed on and got pissed on by a cute girl.

Really shouldn't let a /co/ faggot be in charge of this.

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Kyuubey clearly deserves 100, but how much suffering did he actually get post-Rebellion?

>>157308954
>Chris
>40
Have you actually read or watched the series you add to this or not?

>>157310930
The 0 column is full.
5 is fine I guess.

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>sacrificed his humanity to create the ideal society
>killed by what he's trying to protect
>mentally broke down and swimming sufferingly before dying
Can we at least agree he's 100,100?

>>157310632
Heh, Peter Griffin's right the fuck next to the Joker.

>>157310973
55 with that Rebellion ending

>>157311000
If getting shot then death noted is 100 suffering then the chart should be expanded to go up to 200. Retard.

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>>157310380
Done

>>157310384
How about this one near 0/0

>>157310387
We need to decide this

>>157310395
I agree, putting him.

>>157310425
>Pouf suffered alot more
Are you sure? Pitou did a lot to protect her king

>>157310449
Alright

We have too many characters suffering, it's crowded in the left

>>157311000
Nah. He didn't suffer that much.

>>157311000
No, he at least had good intentions at the start and really didn't suffer that much.

>>157310867
>Yuu and Yuuko with a combined total of 180 suffering and 15 deserving
Goddamn it, is there a single couple that went through more shit in anime? I just wanted them to be happy.

>>157310632
Why did they put Chris-Chan at the 100,100 mark?

>>157310054
>Idealistic retard who keeps jumping head first into shit and shoving his ideas on everyone
>Helped popularize short magic battle academy LNs
He deserves everything.

>>157311040
/a/ Doesn't have enough characters to complete the chart, give up.

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>>157310867
Put her maybe just below Guts.

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Miu from Ichigo Mashimaro
S0 D50

>>157311000
More like (85, 30)

>>157311071
>80 years of anime and manga
>30 years of VNs
>not enough
The problem is that people can't decide or disagree.

>>157311061
>ultimate suffering
>deserved every inch of it

JUST

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>>157311040
15 deserves it
30 suffering

>>157310632
>Batman deserving it more than Hulk and Wolverine; more than Terra

Whaaaa?

>>157311107
Why would he deserve suffering for drastically reducing the crime rate?

>>157311061
He suffers delusion and stupidity (remember that he cut his own taint) but he deserved every second of it
Also he portrays himself in Sonichu as all powerful tyrant who runs Cwcville but suffers of a virgin need that mirrors his real self

>>157311175
>Raito did nothing wrong meme

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How would you rank this character?

>>157311040
Pouf died from nuke aids and got mindbroken by the king's comments before his death. Pitou died happy for fulfilling her duty.

>>157308954
Why is Mark Zuckerberg there?

>>157311170
Thats correct.

>>157311221
>more crime is better because at least the criminals get to live
ok

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I'll just leave this here....

>>157311227
Deserving: 100
Suffering: 25

>>157311227
Deserved 100
Suffered around 25??

>>157311264
Does it count as suffering if you're in a coma and therefore can't feel suffering?

>>157311066
Saying he jumps into trouble is fine, but his speeches are just him making up shit on the spot and saying things that he thinks will move the villain the most so they stop starting shit and everyone can go home safe and sound. He's already admitted to not even believing some his speeches, it's more for the psychological effect than him forcing his ideals on anyone.
>Helped popularize short magic battle academy LNs
>Blaming Touma for things he has no say on and couldn't do anything about
No wonder he's always complaining about his luck.

>>157311227
I have no idea who she is but I'm going to say she deserves at least 25 just for that angry tsundere face

>>157311170
It says that he suffers more than Terra
/co/ really doesn't like Batfags but I can sort of see their point of view considering Bruce has demonstrated an overbearing personality mixed with a paranoia even toward his allies (Tower of Babel) only coupled with a "Muh ded parents" excuse.
He still means well in the end though
Either that or someone just really doesn't like his no kill rule

>>157311264
Deserving: 15-20
Suffering: 60

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This one seems hard to classify, some suffering didn't deserve any.

Also we need some older shit. Lum and Ataru definitely should be on there somewhere.

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Question:
Is the "How Much they deserved it" axis dependent on the Suffering axis? i.e: If a character has low suffering, but high "deserving", does that mean they deserve to suffer a lot, or not to suffer?

>>157308954
>Slaine at 50-50
That's not right

>>157308954
Mumen rider doesn't even suffer much and if he does it should be equal to his deserved it because he throws himself into those situations.

Dio, Touma, Evil Eye,Blackwargreymon & Mewtwo don't even suffer that much.

Kaneki, Gaara and Emergence girl Glasses, hell even Black'd mode are way too high on deserved it.

Shit chart.

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>>157311307
She's a shit disturber.

>>157311266
>>157311268
suffering-mind

>>157311343
Umaru is at suffering 0, deserving 100. Figure it out.

>>157311266
>>157311268
We have as close to a consensus as we're likely to get here.

>>157311066
I feel like telling people not to be retarded is less idealism and more of a social service. Also the harem battle LN's were the fault of the setting, not Touma himself.

Instead of someone posting a pic and coordinates, they should post a pic and let other anons decide it (like >>157311227)
That way it should be more consistent. (and retards won't meme the thread up.)

>>157311266
>>157311268
she doesn't suffer that much desu

maybe 10 at the very most

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>>157310505
I don't know, we need someone REALLY special for 100/100, did she really deserve that?

>>157310507
I assume that's in the LN because fuck Betelgeuse. 70 for suffering? are you sure? If you're I'll add him.

>>157310584
Added

>>157310629
Added on S30/D15

>>157310667
But Homura is in

>>157310669
0 deserving? Aw man but he was a pirate, I think he deserved at least a 5-10. What do you think?

>>157310722
Uh.. changed

>>157310742
Well in the middle of the anime a lot of the problems are caused by his own attitudes. But I understand what your point. How about 55 then?

>>157310795
Added but with Kuro S15

You guys are either too fast or I'm super slow (I guess it's the second option)

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>>157311386
That's actually exactly the reason I'm confused.

>>157311344
Yeah, I'd say 80/20.

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Do we have any of these fellas on there yet?

>>157311412
>Gets tied up and raped by a lesbian
>Gets shot
She is way higher than 10

Oh and I def agree with >>157311408
It helps the chart building a lot

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Like 75 suffering 15 deserve

>>157308954
Why is trunka only at 65? He literally had his entire timeline erased. His mom dead. Friends and family dead. Only to live in another universe which he already existed. So, now there's two of him. And only 65 for that?

>>157311443
>>Gets tied up and raped by a lesbian
>>Gets shot

it's all in their imagination, especially the shooting part since it's established they're using airsoft

she's not suffering

>>157311348
>Touma
>Didn't suffer that much
NT 9 mate.

>>157311477
The shooting usually was. She was definitely raped.

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Suffering 60
Deserve 100

>>157308954

>Okabe
>Not 90 Suffering, 5 Deserved

He is one of the most tragic characters, not even in anime, but in ALL of literature the world over. He experiences the same tragedies countless hundreds of times, has seen almost everyone he cares about die, often time in his own arms. And what did he do to deserve this unending nightmare? He dared to dream of a world of remotely cooked hot pockets.

>>157311495
her character doesn't seem to be affected by the rape though

I don't remember that part desu

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I feel like killing your own family in an attempt to live forever with them through vamparism is pretty damn high on the deserved suffering scale

80suffering, 75 deserved

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I'm not too great at the rankings so I'm just going to provide options

>>157311413
Why is the bottom axis "deserved it" instead of "deserved to suffer"

>>157308954
So why has no one done Usagi or any of the other Sailor Senshi yet? They're pretty iconic characters and should be in here.

>>157311532
>Why is the bottom axis "deserved it" instead of "deserved to suffer"

good point

>>157311300
You didn't deny that he does those things at all, you just tried rationalizing them.

>>157311407
It's not the setting, it's the shitty "average guy with a snowflake power, a totally not retarded belief system, and a harem" who stupid teens self insert as. That's what made this shit catch on.

Luluco - S40 D10
Jesse from Team Rocket - D90 S75
James from TR - D65 S90

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S: 35
D: 75

>>157311471
Because when people think DBZ they don't think of suffering. Eventhough Trunks have gone through a lot more than half of these fags in this thread they still won't acknowledge him. Should have at least be at 85.

>>157311518
Very last scene of the anime after she fucks up the birthday plans.

>>157311413
Swap Mumen Rider and Chris, you motherfucker.

>>157311525
The priest would be a good fit for a low suffering/high deserved space.

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Are we not going to talk about this?

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>>157311499
Hold on lemme get a non fanart version

>>157311624
He's pretty low tier though.

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Suffering: 95
Deserves: 15

>>157311413
please add >>157311152 at D15, S25

>>157311532
If you read it right, it implies "how much did they deserve [suffering]".

But I agree on your point.

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How much did she suffer? She deserved nothing.

>>157311624
HA!

>>157311490
>Muh infinity gorrillian dying infinite pain to show how awesome and badass I am!
Instantly disqualified.

>>157311654
S: 25
D: 10

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>>157311408
>>157311446
Ok, let's start then.

Rate me

>>157311619
he's a good fit for pissing me the fuck off.

>>157311413
>Well in the middle of the anime a lot of the problems are caused by his own attitudes.
Like what? He got beat up in public for being a sperg but that's about it.

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S:20
D:60

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>>157311413
35 suffering
5 deserve it

>>157311654
How much did she stutter?

>>157311624
He needs to be in there, that's for sure. But where?

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>>157310854
Added on S35/D50

>>157310872
>>157310930
Added on S60 D5

>>157310888
>>157310804
>>157310956
Ok we had some problems with Homura before, let's finally decide: Where should she stay in the chart? Will her bad actions count to the deserving part or the deserve should be near zero, since she didn't deserve her suffering?

>>157310948
But Yamcha is pretty low in the S part, S35 now. Should he be higher?

>>157310973
>>157311022
Added on S55/D100

>>157311000
Ok we need to settle down this one too. Did Raito deserve it or not?

>>157311081
She was that sex slave right? Added

>>157311088
Added

I'm so behind you guys
sorry

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>>157311653
No- look:
Y axis: [the level of] Suffering
X axis: how much they deserved [the level of suffering]
'It' implies 'level of suffering' not 'suffering'

Mods do your job jesus fucking christ.

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Chuu-tan should show up somewhere.

Nya-tan is closer to
D: 35
S: 10

>>157311746
>or the deserve should be near zero, since she didn't deserve her suffering?
I meant: Would her bad actions even after the suffering make her deserve more?
Those cases where the character suffered before deserving it are complicated

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As of Super, I'd say S25 D70, what do other anons think?

>>157311746
Nigger
>>157311608

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This bitch deserves to be pretty high up on the deserves suffering area.

>>157311660
>awesome and badass
You didn't read it.

>>157311660
You not liking it doesn't make his suffering any smaller.
>>157311557
And that doesn't make it Touma's fault either.
Is he really telling people they shouldn't destroy all science because a faulty rollercoaster killed their brother what you call shoving his ideas on people?

>>157311819
If you think that served anything other than to bolster him up in the eyes of readers, then congratulations, you're one of the stupid kids the series is aimed at.

>>157311413
haruko haruhara suffered at least a little when naota ruined her plan and atomsk got away.

You should bring her up to 5.

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>>157311413
>Makoto Konno

Suffering: 15-20
Deserved: 80

>>157311746
>yuno takes up two spaces.
hehehehe

>>157311833
>Toumafags
Almost as bad as Fatefags.

>>157311660
I wouldn't call failing to kill yourself and then complaining about not being able to save 7 billion people in less than a second "awesome and badass".

>>157308954
Did Haruhara Haruko (80, 0) really deserve suffering that much? Even if you accept that she's being entirely selfish (definitely debatable) then all she did was bonk a couple people in the head and teach a kid a valuable life lesson.

>>157311753
You know damn well that's not what it's meant to be even if it looks like it from a way.

>>157311746
please add >>157311152 at D15 S25

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S:15
D:65

>>157311865
W　I　D　E

S0 D85 - Moguro

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somewhere in lower mid,
deserved 50
suffered 25

>>157311877
If the kid was a little bit more of a pussy, the whole town would be gone at best, the whole earth at worst.

>>157311893
Panty is already on there at S:30 D:50

>>157311746
For Homura it depends on whether or not you think she did anything wrong. I don't think she did anything wrong so her deserving should be low.

>>157311893
already inside the graph faggot

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S: 80
D: 95

>>157311918
>>157311935
Yep, that's my bad
I apparently don't have eyes.

>>157311746
Put Homura about two spaces up and three to the left.

Put Sayaka two spaces above where Homu is now.

And I still say put Tsukasa Hiiragi between Osomatsu and Kuroneko for the deer scene and getting lost at Comiket (and how she generally seems confused and scared of much of the world).

S20 D65 - Akko from LWA

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>>157311746
suggesting dufort from Gash bell be added diagonally down from guts.

His mother sold him to an evil mad scientist for 10,000$ as a young kid to be experimented on for his abilities to make weapons of war, was emotionally tortured, and then they tried to murder him once they were done with him

Also Diavolo from Jojo needs to be way more towards the right for how much he deserves it, he was a mob boss and ordered who knows how many people to be murdered and got thousands of people hooked on hard drugs

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>ctrl+f
>Ichise
>Texhnolyze
>no results
I'd put him at or near 100 suffering and right after Guts in deserved.

>>157308954
Guts is a child murderer and a very bad friend. He deserved it.

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hitori bocchi deserved 5 suffered 40

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>>157311938
And of course her reason for deserving it

What do we do with Fate? Deserve is really small, maybe 5. She suffered >80 in the first series, but got whitewashed in the movies and was mostly fine in the later series.

>>157311845
See >>157311819

>>157311913
Oh shoot, I totally forgot about the satellite. That was all her, wasn't it. Fair enough. Ok, ok, but does she deserve to be so close to Umaru and Griffith?

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S:35
D:80

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S 10
D 40

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>>157311746
S: 20-30
D: 20-30

She had a fair morality rate.

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>>157311152
Added on D15/S25

>>157311266
>>157311268
I'll follow you guys on this one

>>157311264
>>157311331
Added on S55/D35 because that area is crowded

>>157311408
I love you and your ideas

>>157311441
Don't think so

>>157311447
Don't you think 75S is a little bit too much?

>>157311471
>>157311596
Alright, Trunks is higher now

>>157311499
Added on S65

>>157311514
We had a talk for Okarin before and decided between 70-80. I'll make him go up 1 block, but I don't think his story was THAT tragic on S;G. Well, fixed.

>>157311525
Added

>>157311527
Thanks anon, we really need some opinions right now

>>157308954
How to calculate for deserving it?

>>157312021
>Y-You just don't get it!
What's it like being 14? It's been a while so I forget.

>>157312053
>calculate

>>157312002
Child was probably a murderer too?

>>157311703
Emotionally suffered for 5 months only to be rejected upon meeting again. Finally comfortably together after 8 months, "lets end this."
Man deserves a break from all this suffering.

>>157312053
Did they do it to themselves or was it out of their control? Was the character a good person or have they built enough bad karma they deserve all the shit they get?

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filler for in the middle somewhere

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Deserves much suffering

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What's her placing?

>>157312104
Seems like about 65, 15

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S 30
D 50

>>157311557
You yourself referred to them as...
>magic battle academy LNs
...in regards to the thing they have in common. You've already played yourself on that front.
As for the rest of it.
>average guy
This is a meme even in universe
>snowflake power
True, but Unique ≠ Powerful, especially in the case of Touma.
>totally not retarded belief system
He doesn't have one.
>Harem
I'll give you this one. Though it's more of a joke than a legit thing.
>who stupid teens self insert as
Touma's life is shit. No one wants to self-insert as him.

Orochimaru

>>157312104
>>157312126
Agreed, deserves 60 to 65, at least.

She doesn't really suffer at all though. I'd say 5 or 10 at best.

>>157312104
Even if she wasn't the way she is, the fact that she created the world as it is now is deserving enough of suffering

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I don't know if he can even be on here

>>157312033
Chris watched her parents get killed, got sold into sex slavery, got recaptured and tortured, and then had her good nature taken advantage of so someone could use her to kill people. Please, please explain to me how Joseph, Chopper and Megumeme are higher than that.

>>157312088
How to explain 0 suffering and 80-100 deserve it?

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>>157312033
70,65?
Tell me if you disagree

>>157312156
He does suffer some, but not much. He'd be close to the bottom left corner.

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deserved 5 suffered 30