JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL

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DON'T STO-

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Mitsuha is a SLUUUUUT

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that a girl that wants to be a tokyo boy!

>>155764682
And I thought my small town was lame, why is the Japanese countryside so boring?

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>>155764682
>tfw they took the midnight train going anywhere

Who is better, Mitsuha (girl) or Mitsuha (boy)?

>>155764759
Watch it, Taki.

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>>155764848

>tfw lived in a small town that made that one look massive

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>>155764935
Mitsuha (girl)>Taki (girl)>Mitsuha (boy)>Taki (boy)

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>>155764682
JUST A CITY BOY

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Tessie (Tessie) best boy.

>>155764804
I want her to drink my kuchikamizake

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>Get to watch the movie in theaters for a second time tomorrow

So how do I hypnotize my mind to forget everything about the movie?

>>155764682
>wanting to fuck a country hick girl

No thanks, I'll stick to the fashionable girls from the city

>>155765436
why would you want to do that, you can probably catch a lot of stuff the second time

>>155764986
LIVING IN SOUTH DETROIT (Japan)

>>155765436
I would say I enjoyed it even more the second time.

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>>155765545
>conforming to cosmopolitan values
disgusting

>>155764759
I have no problems with that ending

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What did Mitsuha (Taki) meant with this expression

>>155765643
>he wants to fuck a girl who has an accent from the countryside

enjoy being laughed at when you guys walk together down the streets

>>155765436
Pay more attention to the art this time.

>>155765674
masturbation

>>155765674
she (he) was tired from uh exercising a lot that day

>>155765545
>>155765643
>>155765705
how do you detect accents in moonspeak, it all sounds the same to me

>>155764682
wtf I hate your name now.

>>155765705
enjoy being imprisoned for life by your own self consciousness my man

>>155764804
you mean Mitsuha (male)

>>155765754
less an accent and more them using different words, like aho instead of baka or -han instead of -san

>>155764889
>>155764682
>>155764986
FUCK THIS MOVIE

>>155765217
I kind of wish Taki had told him the truth about what was going on when he explained that the comet was going to destroy the town. He'd probably believe it and it would be fun to see someone else reacting to their body switching.

>>155765866
no way would they have believed it until afterwards

Reminder that Taki(Mitsuha) never masturbated thank to his pure heart

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>>155765823
HANG ON TO THAT FEELING

>>155765968
he fucking touched her boobs every time even when he tried not to

>>155766013
I mean Mtsuha in Taki's body

>>155766001
why is Mitsuha so skinny

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>>155766152
active lifestyle yo
perk of living out in the sticks

>>155766152
that can be changed

>>155766152
no cafes

>>155766271
delet

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>>155766271

>>155765545
>he doesn't wanna seduce a naïve country girl with his cityboy ways
>he doesn't want a hardy girl to come home to

>>155766271
> she becomes an american.

>>155766271
My mind is fucked. You ruined my later viewing of the movie. DELET THIS ALREADY!

>>155766271
Man I think inflation is the only fetish I hate more than furry. It's just so creepy that they're not satisfied with just a fat girl. They need to see that downward spiral, the creeps.

>>155766271
i hope you drown motherfucker

>There were people bothered by no kissu at any point in the film

Did they really need that to vindicate their relationship?

They're going to associate with each other and start dating and Taki's going to put his penis in Mitsuha's vagina and she'll get pregnant and they'll have kids. Leave it at how it ended and leave the rest to your imagination.

>>155765866
I want to know what his reaction was in the aftermath when he actually had time to ask Mitsuha how the hell she knew the comet was going to blow up half the town, and how she explained herself.

>>155767269
will the kids body swap too

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>>155766271

>>155767339
they had amnesia

>>155766271
Even the first chub is too much chub.

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Can people just stop lewding the Mitsuha? She is the purest girl and she would appreciate you respect her as such.

>>155767927
seconding this

>>155767927
thirding this

>>155767927
A guy she didn't know fiddled her, so no

>>155767927
>pure

>>155768168
EIGHT YEARS

>>155767927

>Touched a man's dick
>Pure

>>155764848

>Real tradition and festivals that aren't about an excuse to drink
>Beautiful mountain vistas right outside your goddamn window
>Wilderness for miles around
>Tokyo close enough for a day trip by train

>Boring

I want to fight you. I would kill someone and assume their life in order to live there.

>>155768399
Most rural Japanese villages don't have traditions or festivals

>nothing to do
>nothing to see

I guess they'd be a great place for a hunting cabin or something like that, though.

Shika deer hunters are in great demand.

>>155765545
fucking urbanite

>>155767927
Fourthing this shit
Mitsuha is lovely, not for lewding

Sorry but Mitsuha (Taki) IS built for lewding

When will BDs come out?

why were there so little mitsuha (taki) scenes

>>155769037
I dunno. It's still in theaters in Japan and has a crazy long tail. Maybe late summer/early fall.

>>155769037
I heard October

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>>155767927
Mitsuha is pure, but I want to have sex with her. How do I resolve this dilemma?

>>155769076
wasn't enough taki (mitsuha) either

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>>155769909
First you empty your thoughts of impurity, then you watch the movie again with higher blessings for Taki.

Dubrip when?

>>155769909
Well if you have sex with her, she won't be pure any longer, so you won't have to worry about spoiling her purity.

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>>155770022
Do not listen to this!

>>155769909
cleanse your heart

Mitsuha is literally made for corruption

after a life in the boonies, a little exposure to Tokyo and she will be trying all kinds of vices, eventually escalating to going full slut

>>155770152
Stop posting, Oscar Wilde. Mitsuha is a literal Miko maiden.

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>>155770008
>higher blessings for Taki
You're right, the man deserves more respect. He brought a marker in his coat pocket just to pull off a gimmick confession. Can you be any more alpha?

Where's the porn?

>>155770613
on sadpanda

most of it its vanilla

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>>155770613
BAKA! HENTAI!

>>155770704
I want Mitsuha to pout at me!

>>155770613
https://exhentai.org/g/1027989/e136934c2c/

This one makes good use of the body swap.

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she is too cute!

>>155770645
As expected

>>155770704
I like to make pouting girls moan

>>155770613
>>155770645
The Karory ones are cute, although she doesn't quite look like herself. https://e-hentai.org/g/1019872/b2c8eddc76/

>>155770773
she isn't yours to make do anything

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Sports Mitsuha

>>155770542
I just realized his neck is fucking huge

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>>155764889
>midnight train
>sun is out

Mitsuha sucks and the only time people like her is when Taki is on her body!

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>>155770773
>I like to make pouting girls moan

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SOMEWHERE IN THE NIGHT

>>155770850
Yes, she is. I want to pump her hard and full of sticky stuff.
Have a problem with it, fag?

>>155764804
Why are pictures of girls spitting on themselves so common here?
Why do people think its funny when they have their spit all over their face?

>>155770872
its more like his face still looking like a cute boy while having a ripped neck

>>155770542

>that ending

The fact that they ALMOST walked by each other due to Japs being fucking awkward faggots infuriates me. Why didn't those two hug each other dammit?

>>155770949
I would knock you the fuck out if I caught you talking about my girl that way

>>155770998

they forgot

>>155770998
If you walked by a girl you think you might vaguely remember would you suddenly go up and hug her?

>>155771041
nope
id follow her and try to remember who she was...

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>>155770949
Oh anon-kun, we know you're a virgin. No need to remind us.

>>155771041

I would go up to her and notify her that she looks oddly familiar. I have no problem striking up a conversation with complete strangers.

>>155771024
It's my girl.
You don't roughly manhandle her like she wants.

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This girl starts calling your name out in the bus

what do?

What type of a god is the Musubi god?

>>155771094
I don't play about this shit

ntr doujins when

>>155771107
"Hey you! Watch "Your Name" in your local theater while it's still up!"

>>155771136
However she does play with my dick, with her mouth.

>>155771077
>
Stop projecting, anon

>>155771092
You must not live in clapistan because that's a huge no-no here.

>>155771107
"So uh... do you watch anime?"

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>>155770830
This is a sweet solution, but can it even work?

>>155771177

>Americans can't talk to their fellow citizens and have fun with each other

Why?

>>155771214
that's playing with forces way outside their control
risky business

>>155764682
>nobody has replied with "LIVING IN A LONELY WORLD" yet

>>155770902
hey its midnight somewhere in the world

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>>155771298
LIVING IN A LONELY WORLD

>>155764682
Waiting for the BDs is suffering.

>>155771528

go see it in theaters

>>155771528

Go see it in theaters or watch the 720p rip. Other than the first minute, it's perfectly fine.

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>>155770959
really gets that noggin joggin

>>155771547
>>155771571
>in theaters
I'm not a faggot who lives on the east/west coast, so no theater is showing it within ~400 miles. Believe me, I've looked.

>there's a 720 rip
is that the chink screener rip? I thought that was just dvd quality

>>155771237
People mind their own business round here is what I would have said if I didn't regularly visit one of the states where people are more open and realize how nice it is.

>>155771214
>drawing Mitsuha in this generic art style

that could literally be Megumi or Hanabi or some other short haired girl instead

>>155771694

No, there's a more proper rip than the screener.

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=895270

The first minute is a tad laggy and janky, but past that, it's perfectly watchable.

>>155771758
Thanks, I'll check out the first few minutes and see if it's still worth waiting on a real HD rip.

Journey fucking sucks

>>155771810
of all the opinions to pick you chose this one
how disappointing

>>155771809

its serviceable if you've never seen it before, but it needs to be seen on the big screen / HD

>>155771810
yeah well, that's just, like, your opinion man

>>155771810
It sure is hard to fuck a journey, you know.

>>155771694
You can blame funi for that - they were refusing to book the film in theaters that were asking for it left right and center.

>>155771547
>>155771571
I'm seeing it in theaters tomorrow. Should I see the subbed or dubbed?

>>155771952
Subbed for sure if it's your first time watching it. It ain't super-accurate, but it's good enough.

>>155771952

Subbed you heathen.

>>155771952
BOTH

>>155764682
>>155764889
>>155764986
>>155765612
>>155766001
>>155770936
>>155771481
did i get all of them?

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>>155767169
It's definitely the most sad. You don't desire unachievable or forbidden things, like 2D or loli.

You just settle for the most ugly, decadent, disgusting and useless thing on the planet. It's pitiable really.

>>155772036
I think so
I was trying to post Taki working at the restaurant to "WORKIN HARD TO GET MY FILL" but didnt pull the trigger

>>155771952

Subs man, comeon,

I hear the dub is fine, but never been able to see it because my damn theater refuses to let you know what showing is what.

>>155771528
Trust me, I don't think it'll be as enjoyable unless you watch it in the theaters. The experience is too incredible.

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>>155772264
>looked it up 2 months ago, no showings planned within a few hundred miles
>looked it up again just now for shits and grins, there's a single theater 20 minutes away showing it this weekend

AW SHIT! I fucking love this thread for making me check again.

Just saw it for a second time. The theater was pretty full on a Tuesday, which was a nice surprise.

I was also the only non-Asian there.

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I have all of this week to go to my local theater and watch it for the second time in a Jap-filled area of NY. What day and time should I go?

How did they get around the "watashi" "watakushi" "boku" part in the dub?

>>155768326
she did more than touch it - she fucking held it while he peed

I can't even pay a girl to do that for me

>>155772466
i too was the token white person in my viewing on fri

>tomorrow is the last day that the movie is showing at my local theater
>nobody to go with
What do I do?

>>155772588
THIS, I MUST KNOW, or ill watch the dub too, music will feel weird tho

>>155772466

>watch Godzilla in theaters
>it's nothing but little Asian girls and some old people who probably saw the original Godzilla

>>155772598
Implying she didn't sit down like the demure girl she is.

>>155772588

girl gal guy i think someone said a few threads ago.

>>155772621
>he doesn't watch movies alone

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>>155772621
go, I'm seeing it a 3rd time alone tomorrow with no fuck given.

>>155772621
Go and sit in the designated singles zone, anon.

I watched this movie, but I didn't think it was as good as Shinkai's other movies.

>>155772621
Going alone tends to good for squeezing into good seats if the house is packs (I'm more of a middle-row person. My autism gets triggered if I am not sitting in at least the centre of the 3rd or 4th row). Just go alone and hope nobody is loud around you.

>>155767387

Based on hints that Mitsuha's lineage all had it (female side at least) it likely the kid should too.

>>155767927
Taki lewded her every morning

When will the BDs come out on the US? I don't want to pay to watch it a third time.

>>155772621
Are you there to watch a movie or make friends? If it's the former then why do you care who's going with you?

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Make a wish /a/

My theater is showing this until friday. Do i go see it again?

>>155772957

I want to be a cute country girl

>>155772651
Yep. She's stumbling to explain why she was late and finally gets out something like "sometimes a guy just wants to have fun" after saying "girl" and then "gal".

>>155773020
No, save your money for the BDs.

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>>155772957
Destroy America.

>>155772957
Fuck off comet

>>155773075
Stay mad, leaf.

>>155771237

So far as I have seen and heard, Americans actually have a reputation for the opposite, for being much more willing to strike up a conversation out of nowhere with strangers. Much more so than in quieter, more "polite" places where people mind their own business and stay in their lane.

>>155765436
Why would you even do this? You get nothing out of it?

>>155772957
I wish for my very own Mitsuha.

>>155772719
Just saw it today and really liked it. I thought it was the best thing he's made yet, and I think I've seen everything but The Children Who Chase Lost Voices.

>>155773273
it varies by region/person

your average white nyc or seattle dweller doesn't talk to anyone

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Why didn't they just check the dates?

>>155773398
You should rewatch 5cm/s.

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>>155773318
I want to enjoy the thrill and suspense again and hopefully cry this time. In truth, I just want to get rid of those doujins I read after my first viewing because they're going to distract my mind in the second viewing.

>>155773532
>>155773398
Also all of his other movies, since this is undoubtedly his worst.

>>155773531

you cant check dates in a dream dummy.

>>155765674
Really wish we got to see Taki's first day as Mitsuha

>>155772791
The kid would be Itsuha, right

>>155773645
This, especially because Taki was overall more important than Mitsuha.

>>155773551
If you didn't cry the first time you won't cry the 2nd time. You'll also have no suspense, since you know what's coming. I'm not really sure why you're gonna spend money to rewatch it. Just pirate it if anything.

>>155769909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

Just got back from rewatching it, dubbed this time. Anyone else who watched it, what did you think of Mitsuha's dub? Every other voice seemed pretty typical and expected, but her voice is pretty nasal or something?

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>>155773722

I dunno, I didn't cry the first time but after the 2nd time it hit me and cried.

sure some parts lose impact like the pen falling, but overall I enjoyed it more the second time.

>>155773532
I might have to do that tomorrow night. It was my favorite before I saw this. I really like parts 1 and 3, but I think part 2 brings it down a bit.

>>155773587
Garden of Words is definitely the worst.

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>>155773722
I didn't cry mostly because of my focus into mystery-solving how the plot will play out, as well as the remaining suspense from the truth behind the town. I've been hearing from anons here who watched it twice that they get to enjoy the emotional aspects of the film much better with the second viewing, so I'm inclined to test it out myself.

>>155770959
I thought's its because a bird pooped on her face.

>>155773901
>Garden of Words is definitely the worst.

That movie had the thickest atmosphere out of all his. Plot-wise it was pretty soap opera tier but still more mature and sensible than this shit.

>>155773532
What's 5cm/s like? I've never seen another Shinkai movie before this.

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>tfw you will never become mitsuha

>>155774029

>no-singles policy

What the fuck is that? Do they not let paying customers see the movie alone?

>>155774073
Its a meme

Just saw it earlier, I thought the movie was going to end in 4 different scenes. This is definitely my favorite Shinkai movie, absolutely beautiful in terms of visuals, storytelling and music

I hope my theater doesn't give a fuck about me being single and bringing a backpack. It's going to be early anyways.

Any vancouver bros watching this tomorrow?

>>155774084
>>155774073
I was memeing, but they haven't let me in in the past when I tried to go see animated movies alone.

>>155773968
I will admit, the atmosphere was nice, but I don't think it was good enough to make up for the plot. What do you think his best work is?

>>155774000
It's a lot more focused on romance than this one. Definitely worth a watch.

Wew lads. I had to pay an extra 4 dollars to get into the non-couples area. Did anyone else experience this?

Also fuck that employee who chuckled when I asked for a ticket in the non-couples area. Fucking normalfags.

>>155774260
>What do you think his best work is?

The short with the cat.

>>155774073

How are people still actually falling for this?

>>155770645
>most

>>155774000
>>155774260
Bear in mind that 5cm/s is much more introspective than Kimi no Na wa. I wouldn't quite say it's more romance-focused because it's largely from the guy's perspective (and largely about memories), but it's true that it doesn't have sci-fi elements or comets.

>>155774353

Not everyone goes to cancerous boards

>>155774000
Its really three short stories connected, and the perspective changes.

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>wake up
>look down
>see this
What do?

>>155774555
Masturbate

>>155774452

They're here now, aren't they?

>>155774555
Go for a super-training & diet, because you've grown manboobs.

>>155774351
It's a nice short, I have a hard time comparing shorts and movies though.

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>>155774555
These are truly the shapliest breasts I've seen in anime. Illustrators of a lesser caliber opt for the balloony, pillowy bullshit, but the slight tug of gravity on Mitsuha's tits makes their perkiness palpable.

Furthermore, there's just enough cleavage to suggest the overall curvature of each breast. The cloth somehow feels thinner when it caves to the contours of the body so easily.

I once dismissed Shinkai as a mere cloud fetishist, but I'm now confident he can draw porn like the best of them.

Anyway yeah I'd grab 'em.

>>155773901
Part 2 was my favorite part of 5cm actually. Part 1 was great too. 3 was just too short I think, though that could be the point.

>>155774000
5cm is very slow and melancholy which is where I feel Shinkai's strong suit is. It's just somber, much like his other movies. I respect him less after kimi because it seems like he gave in and just made a happy romance instead of sticking to his guns.

>>155771177
That's a no no in clapistan?

Should I watch his dubbed or subbed?

>This track
https://youtu.be/7xJgSHYpqds

is only second to the impact of when this track comes on
https://youtu.be/p7_uvOTNDG8

Holy shit was that a ride

>>155775087
>5cm is very slow

>>155775087
If he stuck with what he usually does, he'll never get that known. Look at him now. He made a good decision.

>>155775087
I feel like part 3 could have been a little longer, but it was long enough to get the point across.

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>>155772957
PLEASE MAKE ME A CUTE COUNTRY GIRL IN MY NEXT LIFE!!!

>>155775316
Mitsuha's VA really stole the spotlight in this movie. Her and Taki's VA manage to capture an extraordinary amount of country-gal cuteness that makes up Mitsuha's charm.

>>155771237
This is a complete lie, Americans are more amicable and outgoing than say any European country.

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>>155775478
Historically Germans are pretty outgoing.

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Guess who's not a slut?

So why is this movie such a hit. It's a great movie but it also isn't some 20/10 gift from God. So far I think the movie's main appeal is that the story can be enjoyed by everyone while also not being to childish but that still doesn't explain how it breaks records every other week.

I would like to drink the rice mush that Mitsuha spit out

>>155775842
why do you think its not good enough to be a hit?
id much rather watch this then some capeshit or whatever is usually at theaters

>>155775842
One of the initial hooks of the movie is the spectacular animated display of contrast between the rural lifestyle and the city lifestyle, which I felt was solid in the first half of the film. The plot is also massively attracting people because it makes everyone wonder about soulmates and if they exist, and focuses on simple conflicts rather than risking to show complex dramatic situations that tend to ruin most films than improve them.

>>155775842
Hits can appear from nowhere. You think kemono is a hit because they planned it? This movie is great because of a combination of things. Amazing OST, great voice acting, first real happy ending from shinkai, red string of fate, literally keit-ai.

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>>155775842
Simply put, it's like a well-written paper in that it's simple, easy to follow, and doesn't have much errors that would grind people's gears. In this time of age, that's considered quite the accomplishment.

>>155773901
What is with the "Garden of Words sucks" meme? The two MCs create a genuine relationship by the movie's end that isn't romantic in nature. It's about finding someone that you can truly connect to in a world where no one understands your interests.

Just got back from watching it. I feel like taking my parents to go see it, what a fucking movie

>>155775202
Soundtrack was amazing. Some songs reminded me of yusuga no sora

>>155776194
I'm glad it got a happy ending but my mind would have been absolutely blown if it ended right after the impact. Haven't seen or read a good tragedy in a long time

>>155772036
>>155765612
Born and raised in south detroit.

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>tfw gf to chew rice to make sake for you so you have to do it yourself

>>155775087
Manga did a great job at fleshing out part 3, wish we could have seen that in the movie.

>>155775842
I assume it just really rang true with Japanese society right now, probably both the younger and older generation.

>>155775842

Mileage may vary I guess

It was 10/10 for me, will see in theaters as many times as I can before it's gone.

>>155775316
I fucking love that hora hora she does

Why isnt there any doujins of Mitsuha with faceless ojiisans??

>>155776909
Taki and Tessie would be great bros

>>155776988
I'd love to see them remember what happened and then explain it to everyone to see their wtf reactions.

I hate that I dislike it for the fact that its become popular.

>>155777032
It'll be an interesting story to tell during their wedding

>>155777065
grow up

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>>155776939
Can you not?

I'm running out of Mitsuha reaction images.HELP!

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i love rape

Who fell in love first, Mitsuha or Taki?

>>155776988
If there is one thing to learn about finding the right partner in this film, it's that you have to respect their friends as your friends but closer.

>>155773869
I thought her voice was fine.

Enjoyed the dub, though definitely not as good as the sub.

>>155777165
Thats Mitsuha (Taki) though, so it doesnt matter

>>155770870
Was this more fleshed out in the novels?

>>155765754
Your eyes aren't small enough

>>155777241
I really think they need to flesh out on how exactly Taki made Mitsuha so much popular in school outside of the cues we got from the film. I say this because I was never under the impression he wanted to be popular in her body if he wasn't popular much in his city life.

>>155777065

Been on /a/ too long

>>155776243
I never said it sucked, but it's definitely my least favorite Shinkai movie. It's well made, but it just felt generic compared to everything else he's done.

>>155768165
This is important:
Would you fiddle Mitsuha:
Like a violin
Like a cello
Like a contrabass
Like a kokyū

http://www.strawpoll.me/12729111

>>155777316

She made her more popular just on the fact that he acted more extroverted

>>155774162
rip missed by a day

>>155772078
>fucking bastard, go fuck a whore
>i'm trying
gets me every time

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>>155774025
>tfw you will never become taki

>>155777365
Sorry, that was a general statement. Most people who have seen GoW say it sucks, mostly because of the ending.

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>>155774555
>>155774976
You're right, damn.

>>155770613
>>155770645
I would like some Tessie/Mitsuha(Taki) doujins.

It's an incredibly stupid and minor gripe, but I can't fucking believe Taki has the same haircut for 8 years.

>>155775842
>a vignette of teenage development, sexuality, and rebellion
>a critique of gender roles and gender identity
>a commemoration of the tohoku earthquake
>a telescopic look at shinto mythology
>a showcase of styles of different animators
>a subversion expectations and foreshadowings
>all of this woven together by the best art and animation the industry has seen yet, taking full advantage of improvements in digital animation

It's a masterpiece, the best animated film of the decade. Of course it's a hit.

>>155765705
The whole universe can laugh if I get to be with the girl I love. What kind of pathetic faggot are you?

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>>155777115
She looks mildly disappointed in this one, but we can do better. Gotta skim through the movie tomorrow.

>>155764759
I get this reference.

>>155778026
Just don't stop believing.

>>155777429
This was it, they each improved the other's situation not through some trickery or superhuman ability, but by approaching things with a different attitude.

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>>155778026
>mfw I've had the same haircut for over 8 years
Is that bad?

>>155778026
Do you change your hairstyle? There's not much variety in guy hair. Mine's been the same for 7 years.

>>155764759
Ha

>>155764759
I don't get it.

>>155764759
Hearty kek

>>155778193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnT7nYbCSvM

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>Anon, does my accent sound bad?

>>155778295
Sorry, who is this?

seeing it for a 2nd time tomorrow :-)

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>>155778295
Not at all, zura!

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MITSUHA IS PURE YOU FUCKING DEGENERATES

>>155778170
There are at least different lengths of the same hairstyle.

>>155778426
Yeah nah mate there's no such thing as a human that isn't for sexual. Anti-lewdfags can fuck right off.

>>155778476
Mitsuha can only do sexual things with Taki

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>>155778050
This is some really ambiguous bait but I guess I'll bite.

Why bother dropping in gender identity and Shintoism when they're surface/aesthetic elements at best?

The movie uses some culturally relevant motifs, but the reason it's so emotionally appealing is because of the core romance. And I believe the romance is stronger than in Shinkai's early movies because every plot device is designed to dramatize the relationship, either by forcing them apart or by fatefully bringing them back together. The sci-fi cliches are powerful because they underscore the feelings of distance and longing that Shinkai is always trying to express.

I feel the need to point this out because it's something that annoyed me about academia's approach to art. As if film profs are insecure about art for art's sake, so they have to validate their field by dragging in politics and sociology. This movie is a masterpiece because it's a good romance.

>>155773645
It's funny we actually see very little of Taki or Mitsuha in the other's body.

>>155778555
you don't think that it might be relevant that some people struggling with gender identity might feel that's reflected in how Mitsuha or Taki at first feel uncomfortable when they switch bodies?

politics is a part of life and therefore a part of art.

>>155776511
Which is actually Canada

>>155778555
In all honesty, I think that's something you have to be Japanese to appreciate. I suspect that stuff you're talking about is inherent to Japanese culture, and isn't political in the sense we Westerners see it.

Like we think of Shintoism as a religion, but the Japanese don't see it that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan

Like even though Mitsuha does Shinto stuff, and a good chunk of people show up to see the rituals, they wouldn't consider themselves as being Shinto. For them its just cultural; I'd liken it to how we celebrate Christmas, an inherently religious holiday, and yet nowadays its a secular and commercial thing for many people.

Also, Shinkai was inspired by a few Japanese works, including Ranma, Boku wa Mari, and this old Japanese book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torikaebaya_Monogatari

Anyway, by no means am I an expert in any of this, but I do think this movie was more than just a romance movie for the Japanese. Like we do know that it was inspired by the 2011 earthquake, and the whole Tokyo-Itomori divide is a thing apparently.

>>155778817
The Japanese do not give a fuck about Western political topics. The chances of Shinkai deliberately "critiquing" gender roles and gender identity in Kimi no Na wa is low.

>>155778295
Fuck no, it was cute

>>155778923
>Like we do know that it was inspired by the 2011 earthquake
Was this in an interview or something?

mitsuha too cute

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>>155778555
>Shintoism
>surface/aesthetic elements at best
Mitsuha's family literally runs a shrine to the god of love and she and Taki are tied by the red string of fate.

>>155778817
>you don't think that it might be relevant that some people struggling with gender identity might feel that's reflected in how Mitsuha or Taki at first feel uncomfortable when they switch bodies?
It's not relevant, because it's not written for them. Stop trying to hijack a good movie with your cancerous Tumblr activism.

>politics is a part of life and therefore a part of art.
Fuck no. The only inherent purpose of art is to entertain. Art CAN be about politics, but only if it's intended so by the artist.

People who exam non-political art through the lens of politics are a cancerous blight on society.

>>155778991
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-12-20/interview-makoto-shinkai/.110150

>Yes, there is some truth to your question. I sort of linked the comet to the 2011 earthquake that hit the eastern side of Japan in Fukushima. When I did research, that earthquake is said to come approximately once every 1000 years, and I thought that a regular natural phenomenon could be the narrative tool I needed to tell the story. So a natural disaster sort of uprooting people from where they live was the theme that I came up with. I likened this comet to the earthquake that happened, and it felt to me like the natural evolution of what I needed to tell as a story, given the disaster that happened in 2011. Linking the comet to the earthquake allowed me to discuss the theme of people who must move from what they once called home because of natural disasters that occur regularly, since comets do orbit around different stars and have a chance to regularly fall out of their normal orbit and cause disasters.

Pretty direct there. Also:

>Question: Has Hollywood approached you yet about adapting it for an American audience?

>Shinkai: From what I understand and what I've been hearing, there are a few offers to do a live-action adaptation. That being said, as far as the US audience is concerned, I personally feel the movie is what it is, and I don't intend to redo it in any medium as of right now.

How would you feel?

>>155778817
Neither Taki nor Mitsuha "struggle" with their gender, though. There's the initial shock of being inside another person, but both of them just instantly resign to being a male/female. They both just put on the proper clothes, start using "ore" and "watashi" and just go about the daily routines. They struggle more with being in the city/country than they do with having the wrong genitals or having to fit in with a different set of cultural expectations.

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>>155778941
>>155779031
>>155779143
>when motherfuckers haven't read their "La mort de l'auteur"

I just watched it for the third time at the cinema and I've decided I'm going to watch it again, come at me.

>>155779094
>How would you feel?
Based Shinkai, Hollywood can fuck right off.

>>155778923
That book seems like a really ancient Japanese LN, down to the title being the same kind of format.

>>155778817
Politics is part of art but oftentimes it's just projecting. There's so little discussion of gender identity in the film that I don't think that's what Shinkai was going for at all. They get comfy in each other's bodies pretty fast, and they end up preoccupied with trying to meet each other (hence the romance).

Now, I don't doubt that social context informs art on some level. Maybe Shinkai had the Tohoku earthquake in mind. But it's still just a means to an end in the movie (we don't even see Itomori rebuild).

Basically, people often conflate the importance/scope of a social issue with the importance of a work of art. You can definitely make a garbage movie about gender identity (and people will praise it, but they're idiots). And you can definitely make a good movie that's sincerely about a teen romance.

If you think about it, it actually devalues art to treat it like it has to tackle important social issues in order to be meaningful.

>>155778941
>>155779031
>>155779143
3 people putting their fingers in their ears. if you actually liked the movie, you wouldn't be pretending to ignore obvious themes within it just because there's some people you don't like on the internet they pertain to.

>>155779171
and you, you're actually entirely wrong on every point. it's weird to read.

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>>155779094
>there are a few offers to do a live-action adaptation.

>>155772957
Please don't level my town.

>>155779193
Anon, how could you not want a live-action, Americanized adaptation set in New York? Complete with updated soundtrack and pop-culture references to better fit Western taste.

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>>155779236
>if you don't interpret the movie according to my political confirmation bias, you're denying reality

>>155768636
He's saying IF a place like that existed, he'd kill to be there.

>>155779143
>>155778817
They quickly adapt to each other's life because they're soulmates - half of one whole

>>155779265
Make it grimdark, but then change it to comedy when the marketing team sees a lighthearted movie make more money come out

>>155779171
The purpose of New Criticism is to REMOVE political context from literary analysis, not to insert more. The idea is that you're supposed to examine a work of fiction by what's on the page, rather than what era and issues the author had dealt with.

If your English teacher taught you to analyze The Great Gatsby from the perspective of LBGTQREE issues, then your education was set by considerably, anon.

>>155779265
And it will get nominated for Best Picture and win, and some fuccboi will come on stage and thank the Academy, and if he even mentions Shinkai at the very end of his aggrandizing, he'll mangle the pronunciation as everyone laughs.

>>155772957
I want to be a robot and run a cute little cafe in the country after the world ends.

>>155779094
>How would you feel?
That if they wanted to make money, they'd just buy the rights and push it harder than Funimation failed to do.

Nobody wants to see Hollywood's bullshit script about New York and Kansas.

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>>155778817
>some people struggling with gender identity might feel that's reflected in how Mitsuha or Taki at first feel
>>>/tumblr/

>>155779014
I mean that the point of the movie isn't Shintoism. Nearly every dramatic moment hinges on the main relationship, including the ending.

If the romance were a means to explore the Shinto concept of the red string of fate, it did a really bad job of that. More like it was the other way around.

Ya'll, nobody is saying you *have* to interpret it this way or that, there's no such thing as "The one true analysis" of a work.

>>155779229
nobody said anything about anyone "having to do" this or that to be important. Ya'll gettin real defensive about people making a casual connection between gender identity themes and a story where people are waking up in different bodies and engage in scenes that are explicitly about performing gender

>>155779329
and you don't think that maybe people will interpret what's on that page through the lens of their own experiences?

Are there webm's of the beautiful explosions?

>>155779368
The movie did pretty well in the US, despite having no marketing, a limited run, and being anime.

What I found hilarious is that the previews that ran before the movie were all for kids cartoons. Seriously, whoever paid for those ads must be really dumb to think this and Captain Underpants have the same demographic. Can't think of anything more emblematic of how animation is treated here. There wasn't a single kid any of the four times I went, and still they market to them.

>>155779236
How about this: you don't lump "my side" together, and I won't lump "your side" together. I don't deny that Kimi no Na wa has more going on than just romance. My points are that

1. Gender identity issues, particularly relating to transgenderism, is not one of those themes.
2. Politics and morals are not an inherent part of art, and it's never valid to critique a work of fiction by that standard, unless that work of fiction is intentionally entering that realm. Art exists to entertain. Anything else is extra.

Imagine if you were a college professor, and your student turned in an essay talking about the complex gender identity issues he interpreted from a hentai manga he read, where the protagonist gets transformed into a girl and fucked by a dozen fat, faceless men. Would you be inclined to give that an A?

>>155779471

Good question, it would be nice having one of the comet bombardment to troll people with.

>>155779426
>Question: Traditional braiding is a symbol that shows up a lot in the film. At times, the shooting stars kind of resemble strings and there's a lot of talk about the strings of fate, along with a vision where they even form an umbilical cord. What attracted you to that as a symbol for the story's themes?

>Shinkai: First, because this is a story centered around the romance of Taki and Mitsuha, I wanted a symbol that connected the two of them. In Japan, there is always this talk about the red thread of fate that links two people, and that's where the idea of the thread came from.

Red string of fate is just a general Japanese motif, not a particularly religious one, like the Holy Trinity would be.

>>155779236
If anything someone who's struggling with their identity probably wouldn't find much to latch on to here precisely because of how neither character attached any part of their personal identity to their body. Like, trans people look in the mirror and see someone who they don't think should be them and it causes them distress. Taki inside Mitsuha's body looked at himself in the mirror and went "Oh! Well there's a girl's uniform hanging on the wall over there. Guess I'll go to school." If there was meant to be a moment where he was stressing out about seeing the wrong person in the mirror then it didn't make it into the movie.

You could read a gender-fluidity theme into it if you really wanted to I guess, since, again, neither character seems to really give a shit about their flesh in terms of their self identity.

>>155774976

Thank you, local sexpert.

>>155779493

Your cinema chain has a very different promo reel than mine did. The only kiddy trailer we had was for some low-budget 3D space monkey think.

>>155779521
do you not think that someone's politics or morals can inform what they find entertaining, is that an invalid part of the human experience?

https://exhentai.org/g/1034565/1b02761c0c/
https://exhentai.org/g/1022968/62382f021b/
https://exhentai.org/g/1020274/f8aef1a4c3/
https://exhentai.org/g/1019872/b2c8eddc76/
https://exhentai.org/g/998611/22c141d686/
https://exhentai.org/g/1022895/4bce0eb67d/
https://exhentai.org/g/1003796/00bcff8abf/
https://exhentai.org/g/1031023/a1b43428a9/

>>155779493
I dunno how previews are selected, but you might have the issue backwards. Individual movie theaters decide which trailers to run for which films I believe and they do it based on an assumption on who the audience for a given screening may be.

Since there isn't a lot of anime that goes to theater in the west, they probably run whatever adverts can closest capture the demographic, or else anything else plausible. Film goers for an animation may be into other animations? It's a stretch, but it's plausible.

The short explanation though is the advertisements we're appended to the movie by the people paying, they were best stapled on by the movie administration or staff.

>>155779493
>The movie did pretty well in the US, despite having no marketing, a limited run, and being anime.
People think anime is some taboo in this country - it isn't. The reason people don't go see them is the same reason nobody sees foreign films in general: because big Hollywood studios constantly underestimate their audience, pass on projects, and the ones that do import it don't have the budget to run the marketing blitz the bigs do.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was a surprise hit because it was critically acclaimed. If Funimation wasn't fucking retarded, they would've made that the focal point of their advertisements instead of say, nothing.

>>155779434
>and you don't think that maybe people will interpret what's on that page through the lens of their own experiences?
It all comes down to "is it there on screen?" If you're making the assertion that a movie, book, comic, etc is about whatever issue you think it's about, then you better be able to prove it. Just because you felt a connection to it, doesn't make that connection valid.

To me, arguing that Kimi no Na wa touches on gender identity issues is as absurd as saying that Milton Berle in a dress touches on gender identity issues.

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>>155779646

>>155778923
That's a good point, and certainly the whole 黄昏 etymology flew over my head.

My main argument is that each plot element either builds character or drives toward the main romance. So it's unfair (in an odd way) to praise the movie for touching on cultural issues, when the story really just shines as a romance. Anyone could have namedropped Shinto concepts; that's not what makes the movie special.

>>155779598
It was Captain Underpants, Despicable Me, some French animation called Leap, and that same monkey movie.

This was in the middle of downtown LA at like the main theater there. Its just funny how out of touch the reel was. I didn't go see Sword Art Online, but I wonder what they'd have shown there. Or if they ever released a Berserk movie or something.

>>155779646
This feels wrong somehow.

I just want comfy pictures of them cuddling.

>>155779653
Certainly, the theater was packed when I went. I just think its funny how cagey Hollywood is about it.

>>155779658
>is it there on screen
the plot literally revolves around a man being in a woman's body and vice versa. Dude, I personally am not saying that this movie about trans identity politics or whatever, merely that this movie in some capacity has dynamics built around gender. That doesn't mean its trying to say something about North Carolina's bathroom bill or whatever, merely that some people might feel some scenes resonate with them based on their experiences.

Why is that some kind of controversial statement?

>>155779734
I agree; usually I'm willing to permit the sickest of all kinds of filth, but I just want to see them holding hands and walking home gently

>>155779545
Right, that's what I'm getting at. It's a symbol of romance. It's a means to an end, which is telling a better love story. All the stuff about Mitsuha's shrine is cool but it's not an end in itself.

>>155779719
I just get sort of salty when I see people dismiss the movie as a shallow romance movie; one because a lot of great work could be dismissed the same way, and two because there is more to this movie than just that. I do suspect that if the Shinto aspects and background cultural aspects weren't there reinforcing the romance, the movie would not have been such a huge hit in Japan. Not that I can say that with certainty of course.

>>155779632
To a certain limit. Everyone is affected by their politics and morals, but everyone should be able to compartmentalize that. Or do you only watch anime that line up with your politics?

The problem with this generation is that they've blurred the line between politics and entertainment to the extent that their activism is entertainment. They have fun forcing their stupid causes into every piece of fiction they find.

>>155779785
Because neither character has any struggle whatsoever with their identity based on gender. They both immediately start using ore or watashi, put on their uniforms, go to school, and never have a single moment of doubt. They're shown to struggle with learning the names of new people, learning how to get to work, and learning how to braid knots but never with their gender identity. There's some wish fulfillment there since you see a male magically get to walk around inside a natural female body and vice versa, but there aren't any scenes that deal with identity struggles or gender politics.

>>155779725

Besides the monkey thing we had Spider-man, Transformers 5 and... I can't remember. Nothing else in common with you though. I was watching it in Bellevue.

Interesting that's what you got in LA though. It's funny you brought up the movie's lack of/poor marketing. I was saying in a thread yesterday that if they had really "tried" to push it, they probably would have sold it as Freaky Friday with anime tiddies, because they wouldn't have known what else to do with it.

>>155779794
go back to /d/ you sick fuck

>>155779785
Saying that it may resonate with some people is not controversial. Saying that it's relevant that it may resonate with some people is controversial.

If you're transgender and you got something out of the film particular to your life, good for you. But that's not what the movie is about, and no one is interested in reading your essay or movie review talking about it.

>>155779785
I think what the other guy is saying is that the capacity for these dynamics is not the same as the presence of them. I got very little "gender issue" vibes out of the film, to the point I feel they'd have to be mostly imagined or read into the plot to have any significance. Other than scenarios that come about by Taki and Mizuha's differing personalities, not much of it relates to the inversion occurring with their switch.

It's like if someone started talking about Eva being a strong critique of Christianity, they'd have their work cut out for them from the start because the significance is of limited perceptible scope and questionable significance. Also, a lot of people dislike when people 're-purpose' film and media, call it an 'adoption' where the meaning of something is reinterpreted or adjusted to suit a movement, argument or ideology. The premises of the argument "Gender identity is a significant factor into the story, themes and plot" have been thus far hard to support and controversial, making the conclusion a difficult sell.