DRAGON BALL SUPER

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Who would win in a 1v1?
Sailor Moon
>tanks galaxy busting attacks no problem
Goku
>3 punches and the universe is gone

>>154812813
he wasnt funny at all

>>154812858
The Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

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They have a CLOWN and the ""khai"" uses the pride troopers as bodyguard
u11 kai is more shifty than u9 kai
I think in the end it will be revealed that the pride troopers were unknowingly being used for other purposes

>>154812813
never

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>>154812876
>all clowns must be funny or evil

fucking racist shitlord

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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister

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>>154812758

The upcoming Jiren fight looks to be pretty promising. Jiren is humanoid enough and despite being pretty friggin built, doesn't look any worse than say... Freeza at 100% and isn't a horrendous mass of inflated muscles like USSJ was.

The best fights out of Dragon Ball have always been between characters who are mostly in shape and humanoid with mostly human behaviour, barring the whole Saiyan fight boner thing.

Toppo is a bit too bulky to be considered anything but a very powerful character that will be sidelined, same with Tumblr-chan. I know I may be fatshaming a little but it just feels more aesthetic that the fighters aren't some gimmicky skinny slightly mishapen individual or oversized or ridiculously round.

It's why I have my hopes up for Smugpup. As long as he doesn't have the silly backwards digitigrade feet tat the U9 trio have, or as long as it's well hidden in his boots, then we should expect a decent fight out of him... especially if he's wearing pants.

As for abilities? I'd like to see more silliness like many of Gotenks' attacks from the Buu saga, like the Galactic Donut, or the Kamikaze ghosts, or hell even Vegeta's Ki ring binds that he used against Goku. They should just throw a load of those at us instead of ki blast spamming and punchthrowing that we've been getting lately.

I also mentioned in an earlier thread that it'd be totally fucking awesome because if's a team battle royale, that we'd get combination attacks like what you get in Chrono Trigger that are used tactically. I mean 17 and 18 already have their Accel Dance / Sadistic Dance and I hope to see more.

The one thing I really really want is for the combatants from the other universes to be relatable and not chucklefuck kekfests like the U9 furry trio. As I've already mentioned in previous threads I don't really like the trio de dangers because of the fact they are written into coming off as conniving assholes. I want to like the upcoming cast that isn't just U7.

>>154812992
U11 is already likeable

>>154812922
Hey!!
he >>154812992 is fat shaming the big and beautiful toppo

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>>154813106
Couldn't hurt to have more likable Universes. Of course, having another asshole Universe is fine by me, but as long as most of them aren't written to be "the guys you root against" because that'd just be boring writing. And yes I also was rooting for Toppo to slap some humility into Goku so I was cheering when Toppo was beating the everliving fuck out of him, but facepalmed when Goku pulled his SSBullshit card out again.

Reposting actual names

Universe 1
Anat, Iwen and ???

Universe 2
???, Jerez and ???

Universe 3
Ea, Mosco and ???

Universe 4
Kuru, Quitela and ???

Universe 5
Ogma, Arak and ???

Universe 6
???, Champa and Vados

Universe 7
Shin, Beerus and Whis

Universe 8
Ill, Liquir and ???

Universe 9
Rō, Sidra and Mohi'ito

Universe 10
Gowas, Rumoosh and ???

Universe 11
Kai, Vermoud and Marcarita

Universe 12
Ugg, Geen and ???

>>154812858
Mahou shoujo has a God power, and can defeat every enemy. Magical girls is too powered.

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>>154813129
Forget that he's voyeurism shaming! We should all allowed to run around pantsless with our genitals on display if we truly want! Shame on him!

>>154813211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGs-uEkqHg
Can't argue with a girl who likes to use gasoline as perfume.

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>>154813238
>TFW precure has better fight choregraphy than both version of DBS

>>154813190
Reposting Funimation names

Universe 1
Anatoh, Ivan, ???

Universe 2
???, Xerex, ???

Universe 3
Eah, Moscoh, ???

Universe 4
Khuru, Kitela, ???

Universe 5
Ogumah, Araki, ???

Universe 6
???, Champa, Vados

Universe 7
Shin, Beerus, Whis

Universe 8
Irhu, Likir, ???

Universe 9
Roh, Sidora, Mohihihihitoh

Universe 10
Gowasu, Ramoshi, ???

Universe 11
Khai, Belmod, Marcarita

Universe 12
Ugu, Jeen, ???

>>154813267
To be fair that was GoPrincess, which I watched because the quality of the show was exceedingly high despite the fact I don't usually watch mahou shoujo shows, and it came on 30 minutes before Dragon Ball Super.

Shame it's over though. Scarlet had the most bitching intro theme though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7szkIsiNb4

>>154813521
Who the fuck was in charge of drawing Beerus in this episode?

Is Beerus a puppy?

>>154813521
I honestly think Beerus was drawn like a dog for comedic purposes. The drawing itself doesn't seem poor.

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Lewds when?

Just went NEET status and caught up on DBS. So ep 82 is the latest? When's the next episode?

Also, why did they make Goku such an unlikeable cunt. Like hey Goku remember all those times you tried to save the lives of millions of people. Well, you're literally doing the opposite right now.

>>154813623
82 is the latest yeah

Heel Goku seems to be a central part of this arc

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>>154812936

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>>154813652

they sure as shit made it sound like those "mortal" levels were really POWER LEVELS all along last episode..

>>154813686
Is that why Beerus claimed that Goku brought the ningen level down while Goku retorted that Gohan brought it up? Gohan > Goku confirmed?

>>154812813
>Clowncuck

Even if the angels don't get erased won't they just cease functioning because the gods will be erased?

>>154813715
no, I think Beerus was trying to say that Goku's retardation is bringing down the level

>>154813752
Duh, they just wait for a new universe to be made and next new hakaishin to serve.

>>154813652
>"Red Ribon"
Oh that page looks accurate

>>154813763
that's my point
Goku is a savage animal idiot who brings the level down, Gohan is a civilised academicuck who brings the level up, therefore it's not power levels

>>154813267
because what other anime Toei puts more super effort to outside Pretty Cure since 2014?

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>>154813675
We get it you like selling toys

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>>154813652
>>154813675
*wrong

so goku is gonna go SSB 2 or something right

>>154813976
Chi chi when did you get it on this name dibacle?!

>>154813849
Why is Super Saiyan god so shit

>>154813976
>t. Chi-Chi
hi

>>154813990
Mathematically speaking, SSB+Kaio-KeK is already a SSB2

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>>154814000
Why do you think it's shit?

What the fuck -sa means

>>154813849
SSJ ROSE manga was much better.

Here, just the same vegeta from chapter 19.

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>>154813995
>>154814017
fine.

>>154813521
Scooby-doo, is that you?

>>154814030
Even AT admitted that Saiyan god was a mistake
that's why he added in SSB

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>>154814059

>>154814045
It's basically the hick way of saying "san"

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>>154813623
>Like hey Goku remember all those times you tried to save the lives of millions of people. Well, you're literally doing the opposite right now
Toei has flanderized Goku in the DBS anime.

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>>154814045
-san with a hick accent.

>>154814030
I don't mind the slinny part but the color is basically cheap kaioken.

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>>154814089

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SUUPA SAIYA-JIN GODDO SUUPA SAIYA-JIN TSU

>>154814110
>>154813623
Goku was never an HERO to being with.

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>>154813267
Tis a shame.

>>154814030
It looks skinny as fuck and doesn't look like what you would expect from a divine being
Also it's a shitty Kaioken recolor that got replaced with SSB as soon as they could

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>>154813623
He's in his mid life crisis.

>>154814090
AT made SSG a permanent base form for Goku and Vegeta in the movies

>>154814163
Majin Buu vs Lavender who wins?
How about Bergamo vs Buu?

>>154814163
you keep posting this webm as if it's bad but I don't see anything wrong there

did the Goku vs Toppo fight at least satisfy you?
if the answer is no, at this point you're just a nostalgia autist contrarian

>>154814189
>Movies
there's your problem
Movies will always be second rate compared to the TV series

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>>154814110
Nigga the only reason he did that was just sate his fighting boner, he wanted to face Majin Boo

>>154814201
Buu beats Lavender easily. Bergamo can be dealt with by turning him into candy, but I'm not sure if Buu can oneshot him before he absorbs any of his power.

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Why is the LSS the best transformation in the series?
all the other transformation are trash compared to it
>SS1, 2, and 3
just a discount version of LSS and they all get btfo by LSS
>SSB or Saiyan god
Literally just a recolor of SS and would get btfo by the LSS
LSS is the best transformation
just try to prove me wrong
You literally can't

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>>154814317
not canon

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>>154814317
His power is notcanon.

>>154814317
false ssj is the best

So who will fight Jiren? Will it be Goku, or Ultimate SSB Gohan who is also really serious because his cucked wife and tomboy daughter is at stake?

>>154814358
>>154814372
>they say this while girl Broly exists
Super is going to make Broly canon in all his incarnations and there's nothing you can do about this

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>>154814414

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>>154814317
Yeah well my power level is maximum >>>/wsg/1597782

>>154814317
>recolor of SS Grade 3 which isn't even SS3 tier

>>154814271
>Nigga
Stop speaking like a fucking nigger
Multiple things factor in when goku makes a choice. Might want to drop the tfs goku for a while "lol lol food all the time". Not everything is black and white dipshit.

He is not a conventional or intentional hero just a dude who cares for his big family when there is a bad guy standing in front of him.

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17 returns in episode 86

>>154814414
>Super Saiyan Green is canon
>so LSS AND Broly is as well

>>154814201
Majin Buu vs Lavender who wins?
Buu can propably resist the poison and even with the handicap gohan was pretty much in charge of the fight so he's propably not much more powerful than buu.
Buu wins either by outlasting him or through some of his hax ability.
Bergamo can fight on par with base goku who absorbed the god essence so one could argue he has SSG level of powers just on his own which would put him way above Buu in terms of raw power plus he'll continue to become stronger the longer the fight goes so unless Buu can win by some hax he doesn't stand a chance.
And even if he did manage to turn him into candy he might be able to resist it's effect just like Vegito did.
I'm pretty sure Bergamo would win this fight.

>>154814443
>Recolor of SS3
really anon shitposting is bad for your health
>Not even SS3 tier
His power is literally maximum!!

>>154814475
Yeah that's how it works
if Vegeta mentions Broly during the fight then he and all his incarnations are canon now same thing will happen if anybody mentions cooler

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>>154814494
>Brolyfag doesn't know how to read

GOHAN'S
MALE
PATTERN
BALDNESS

>>154814438
>ORE NO LEVEL WA MAXIMUM!

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>>154814588

>>154814459

You need to go back to /pol/

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>>154814535
>Cooler
Why didn't they bring back best frost demon?
he would have won unlike his retarded brother

>>154814535
>Yeah that's how it works... well that's not, only works like that if they actually mention Broly, so DBS making Broly canon is my delirious brolyfag wet dream so far
Thanks to prove you're an idiott.

>>154814614
You need to stop acting like you know what that dumpster is really like
norman trash say nigga this nigga that

>>154814669
>idiott.
>Can't even spell idiot right
Thanks for proving your retarded

>>154814635
>true form Freeza (at 50% of its max) easily tanks Goku's Kame Hame-Ha Kaio-Ken x20
>true form Coola is btfo'd by Goku using Kaio-Ken x2

Coola is a fucking joke.

>>154814747
>Implying
If they gave Cooler two months to train he would have btfo Beerus by now

>>154814740
"You're", ningen

>>154814740
>Shit he's right... what must I do!? Oh, he pressed "t" twice instead once, now I can pretend I'm not stupid!

Nice damage control, brolyfag.

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>>154814740
>your retarded

>>154814710
Lol that was another anon who cried pol not mel. Don't know why he did

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Reminder.

>>154814774
>"if.."

If ultimate Gohan unlocks SSG he would have btfo every GoD but that shit will NEVER happen.

>>154814862
Gohan was always meant to be a jobber so he would fuck up somehow

>>154814710
The fuck are you saying?

>>154814883
He's a good guy.

>>154814394
I have no clue anon maybe the guy who fights him in 50% of the OP

>>154814886
As Coola because he's just another shitty movie villain

>>154814910

That would make Helles the bad guy?

Her bio says she doesnt like anything ugly, no matter if its good or evil.

>>154814883
>intolerant clown
of course and look at those shoes it screams evil. Pride Troopers is a sham!

>>154814910
For you.

>>154813623
Seems like an attempt to make the new characters interesting at his expense.
To me his current behavior is the result of really bad writing.

>>154814883
When will Doink the Clown turn heel?

>>154814152
He was never an unlikeable cunt either.

>>154815215
Probably when Zeno is engrossed in the fights, most likely Goku vs Jirgen, thats when he'll make his move

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>>154815313
Don't bother, so many people are damage controlling this shitty characterization of Goku.

>>154814588
Same hairline he's had since he was 16, just without the bang.

>>154815369
>implying Heel Goku isn't intentional and part of the outline
>implying it isn't a good idea for his character

keep staying delusional

>>154815313
Its as if the writers removed any good qualities he had and only left him with his flaws. His behavior as of now just seems from out if nowhere

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>>154814152
No, but he didn't act like this guy either.

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>>154815413
except even the OP hints what they are planning to do with him for fuck's sake
and look at the lyrics, they are literally him saying how much he's bored and ''can't get no satisfaction''

>>154815422
And now he is, it's actually a good development for him and it fits him as he was never a good hero to begin with. I've been waiting for something like this ever since Super started truth to be told.
Name a single flaw with the Heel Goku idea that isn't muh nostalgia muh childhood hero

>>154815481

That the BGM and the half assed writing is still trying to make us root for Goku, when it'd be so much easier to make the other characters from the other Universe not some one dimensional gimmick (Sentai Justice squad or Saturday morning villain jewboss + furries) that we're clearly supposed to see flaws in and root against but it's not quite working because we can't quite root for Goku either.

Why is Goku so relaxed. Not even he is so dense to not be nervous about losing his entire universe. He probably told Zeno and the Grand Priest to tell everyone the tournament is about life or death instead of just for fun. God, Goku and Zeno trolled everyone.

>hating on based hollywood goku
Fucks the matter with you all?

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>Goku's whole excuse to keep getting stronger was to take down bad guys
>bad guys are basically how he satisfies his Saiyan need to fight
>bad guys suddenly stop appearing
>Goku has no excuse to fight strong opponents anymore
>WOW WHY IS GOKU ACTING THIS WAY NOW

>>154815532
Except I'm pretty sure everyone was rooting for Toppo but whatever
>sentai squad
>one dimensional
k

>>154815581
it's the fucking marks, it's always them

>>154815481
>Name a single flaw with the Heel Goku idea that isn't muh nostalgia muh childhood hero
The narrative is trying to make us root for and against him at the same time, and the lack of concern he and Gohan show about the consequences beyond their own waku waku make them both come across as unlikable cunts.

>>154815586

I WAS rooting for Toppo but
>le bad music starts playing when Toppo is crushing Goku
Come on now the music should be heroic

>>154815600
They just keep working themselves into a shoot. Fucking jabronies.

>>154815586
>sentai squad
>NOT one dimensional
k

Toppo seems to be a retarded character but yeah as everybody said, the way it stands right now Goku brought about the destruction of several quintillion (probably more) lives, not counting the souls in the after life.

I mean we all know there will be an asspull and they'll be saved somehow, but the way it stands right now Goku is the bad guy. He's too mentally challenged to fully grasp the consequence of his actions though.

>>154815638
>TOPPO SENTAI
>TOPPO SENTAI
>TOPPO SENTAI

>>154815720
See, I thought Toppo was acting just fine in this episode, it's just that he seems dumb in the given context because Goku is some kind of retarded wall of obliviousness right now. Bergamo had the same problem.

>>154815586
that is precisely why the lyrics say stuff like

>I wanna laugh like a crazy
>I'm not used to being lazy
>I can't get no satisfaction
>boredom becomes like a stone until it drops me down

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Super Saiyan 3 was a mistake.

>>154815768
By the way can you remind me who exactly knows that the elimination of the weakest universes was planned regardless? I can't remember how that information was presented in the anime.

Depending on that Goku may actually be acting alright and everybody else is retarded.

>>154815720
>>154815768
Toppo and Bergamo are completely excused as seeing Goku as a bad guy
In their eyes, he's someone who just REALLY wants to destroy other universes and doesn't care about the consequences
>but Zeno was gonna do it anyway
We know he was gonna do it ''soon'', which in Zeno's time it could have been a million years for all we know. Goku made it happen right fucking now.
>Damn you, do you really want to crush other universes that much?
Literal line Bergamo says in the previous episode

>Toppo didn't put Goku in the Sharpshooter or the Walls of Jericho
Lame!

>>154815532
It's ok we're still waiting for /ourpup/

Could Heel Goku get a clean victory against Romain Reigns during the next Wrestlemania?

>>154815929
>implying Vince would allow Roman to job

>mexicans think toppo is much weaker than goku
>mexicans think goku was holding back and still kicking toppo's ass

>>154815859
>toppo locks in the sharpshooter
>grand priest ends the match in toppos favour

>>154815929

No way Vince is letting some 5'7 village idiot from gookland go over the mastadon that is Reigns.

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>>154815876
/ourpup/ indeed

batch where.

>>154816004
>This whole arc is just a long play to get Roman over again

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>>154816097

>>154816120
Aw son of a bitch.

>>154814975
Do you think a cock is ugly?

>>154816342
Fuck yous ayy cunt

>>154816373
So are this and 17's appearance the only things in V-jump this month?

>hurr Goku was never a hero meme

He was CLEARLY a fucking hero you damage controlling cunts

>>154816503
>

In the last episode , we learned that the angels are the sons of the great priest or wathever is his name

>>154816503
Yeah like even if he cared more about fighting some times he still was overall a hero and cared about protecting the earth

>>154816578
We've known that for months

>>154816553

>154816591
Cheers mate.

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So will Bra end up doing anything or will she just end up jobbing to Panlet?

>>154816629
shaved

How long until the NEPs just start with
>Ossu! Ora Waku Waku

>>154816629
Yes
Bra is the daughter of a jobber jobbing is literally in her genes

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Friendly reminder it's all a lie

>>154816629
She's going to enter into a relationship with Pan. Because it's 2017 and Dragon Ball needs to be progressive and inclusive in the modern age.

>>154814201
Buu easily wins against Lavender
To win against Bergamo Buu needs to absorb him

>>154816695
So does Pan, though.
>Jobhan's daughter vs Jobgeta's daughter

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>>154816728
Oh my GoDs

I hope that one of the participants is an old man hero who's way past his prime, not like Roshi, but someone you can tell was really powerful once upon a time.

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>>154816702
What did you expect? U11 strongest (no idea about Not Beerus) are basically this

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Leave the Goku menace to us

>>154816728
>so does Pan
I meant "so is Pan". Fuck.

>>154816728
Pan has Goku's genes too which puts her in a better position than Bra

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>>154816728
Imagine if they fused together...

>>154816823
>filename
Wrong anon, you just can't call a bunch a furries, a jew kai, a green gnome and a stoned angel like that

>>154816862
>Dragon Ball Fusions didn't name it Bran
dropped

>>154816823
Will we ever see Bergamo again?

>>154816503
>Goku
>hero

I want Zbabies to leave

>>154816889
>Goku was never a hero
I want the toeishills to leave

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Why do I feel this whole exhibition match was just filler?

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I had a dream last night that Baby Vegeta was the main villain of Xenoverse 3, and found away to fuck with the timelines. The final mission was that he went to one where they successfully sealed away Zamasu with the Mafuba and somehow convinced Black to fuse with him, creating Baby Vegetto Black. The final boss of the game was Golden-Rose Oozaru/Light of Justice Baby Vegetto Black.

Not gonna lie, I'm kind of bummed that this will never happen IRL

>>154816932
I'm expecting the manga to skip it completely.

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Leave Jiren to me

>>154816932
>Introducing all the gods
>Introducing U9 fighters
>Introducing Pride Troopers
>Showing all the rules of the ToP
>Gohan character development
>Filler
ok

>>154816889
Regarding the latest topics regarding "is Goku a hero despite all he did" it is easy to figure it out if we think in terms of Aristeia.

We shouldn't view it in terms of what a hero achieved thanks to his actions (like a boy scout doing selfless good deeds) but rather as an ancient Greek hero performing Aristeia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristeia

The reason Goku lets his enemies escape or heals them is because he seeks an achievement at its highest possible level at the time. He does not do it so much to help the innocent or avenge his comrades as much as he does it for the achievement itself.

Meaning, to him every battle is a test of skill, or if you prefer a fighting tournament where both participants should be allowed to fight at their finest status for the victory to be valid.

It's not a Christian or humanitarian type of heroism, it's an ancient Greek type of heroism (keep in mind how all ancient Greek heroes were very flawed and were still called heroes because of what they achieved at their finest hour).

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>>154816878
Brapan is such a lazy name as well. I mean, they could have called her Brap or Para.

>>154816981
You can do all of that in the real tournament

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>>154816932

>>154816932
Because it literally is
U9 only exists to job to U7 and nothing from the exhibition match actually affected anything
as U9 still has 7 other fighters they could retcon into being stronger than the furry group

>>154816996
But then it would feel rushed as fuck.

What happens if both Zenos use the Portara rings?

Is it like dividing through 0?

>>154816932
Cause the other half (manga) hasn't finished yet and we use the method "if it happens in both then only it is by toriyama" which some people consider to be more canon

>>154817013
They aren't Kaioshin and split immediately because the fusion is too powerful

>>154816938
I wish Oney didn't stop doing Dragonzball, would've been good if he at least stopped at Buu

>>154816373
Who even cares a bout Bojack? They could have given us much better characters.

Black also looks too buff. I wish they could base the game on the manga and do SSG Vegeta.

>>154817011
>More material for the real tournament
>Rushed

???

>>154817013
Wouldn't make any difference because infinity + infinity = infinity

>>154816938
That is a heck of a dream

>>154816938
Sounds more of a Heroes thing rather than Xenoverse

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Leave Toppo to me

>>154817053
I want Future Mai with shotgun action
>Charging ki is her reloading her gun
>One of her attacks smashes them with the gun
>Evasive skill is a tear gas canister

>>154817062
U9 is still going to fight in the main tournament,it's not like their universe is destroyed.
Also I meant rushed as in the tournament already has to introduce us to like 5 or 6 other universes, and if their wasn't an exhibition match it would have had to introduce us to the Pride Troopers, all the god,etc as well as all the other fighters from the other universes, and come on we all know the ToP isn't going to be 40 episode,so introducing some things earlier isn't bad.

>>154816932
This feels less like filler than Botamo.

The manga will probably handle it better, this match was important to introduce all the gods, introduce some fighters from other universes, show how low on the mortal scale U7 is, give Gohan a fight before putting him on a high level again, make the other universes see Goku as the villain, build up Jiren as the top fighter, etc.

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Leave Bergamo to me

>>154817118
Not flying is a deal breaker, Satan is an exception because of it being a DBZ game running gag.

U11 is being hyped as all hell. I think they'll be the only Universe we'll see more of after this.

>lorax who skipped leg day can somehow match a fucking godlike super saiyan

>>154816917
I don't even like the old Toei animes, I'm saying Goku wasn't a hero because he's not a fucking hero, Toriyama even hate how Toei made Goku look heroic in their animes

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Leave Brolyna to me

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Leave Cabba to me

>>154817180
They could give her a jetpack or something, or just let her fly for gameplay's sake. Kid Goku and Roshi could fly in Tenkaichi 2. They'd just drop out of the air after a while.

>>154817053
Remember when you used to get full rosters of characters to being with?

Is Beers a dog ir a cat?

>>154817251
Cat.

>>154816981
>Introducing all the gods
See the trailer for this arc if you want to see how Toyotaro will introduce the gods and is better than that shit.

>Introducing U9 fighters
>Introducing Pride Troopers
You can do that in the tournament.

>Showing all the rules of the ToP
Do you mean the rules that Grand Priest will probably explain after show up in the Kaioshin planet in the manga?

>Gohan character development
Do you call "character development" when Gohan doesn't want to study in Z filler?

>>154817251
>Beers
That wall can't be built fast enough.

>>154817251
he's a shit

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>>154817251
Obviously a dog.

>>154817240
Xenoverse 2 doesn't work like that, Satan uses a jetpack because he's a joke character and has been in several games already. Mai has never been in a game, and she's pretty serious in the future, a jetpack wouldn't fit her.

Budokai Tenkaichi had many characters that couldn't fly, but the game was 1v1 and was balanced with that in mind. XV tries to be more realistic and competitive, that wouldn't fly. At best there could be a mod to add her.

>>154817243
>not pirating the game

>>154817251
He's a god, buddy.

>>154817251
Literally Toriyama's cat

>>154817186

>trained gohan to beat cell because he knew he couldn't beat him
>was willing to perma-fuse with vegeta to save the world
>"b-but goku only cared about fighting strong people and nothing else!'

>>154817186
Goku at the very least cared about his friends and didn't want innocent people to get hurt for no reason
now he literally is going to get entire universes killed just because of his fighting autism

>>154816889
>sacrificed his life to save the Earth from Cell
>refused to be wished back because he didn't want to put the earth in any more danger afterwards
>not a hero

Fuck off toeibot

>>154817352
>>trained gohan to beat cell because he knew he couldn't beat him
It's always bugged me that Goku was okay with that.

>>154816373
>his devastating attacks seen in Dragonball super
not in the manga tho :^)

>>154817301
>See the trailer for this arc if you want to see how Toyotaro will introduce the gods and is better than that shit.
That could be anything, even the beginning of the tournament or something, don't use speculation as an argument.

>You can do that in the tournament.
The tournament will be a battle royale, there's going to be a lot of characters to introduce, and it's better to build up the characters we are going to see before instead of just seeing them fighting at once. Otherwise there's going to be two episodes full of introductions to the relevant fighters.

Your denial is palpable, and you clearly know nothing about storytelling if you think this isn't canon.

>>154817372
That was just an excuse so they wouldn't revive him. His ultimate keikaku was to get to Otherworld and fight the strongest dead people.

>>154816917
toriyama stated in a interview that goku is not a hero

>>154817352
>>154817353
If do you think that care about your friends means you're a fucking hero you must be total dicks, guys.

>now he literally is going to get entire universes killed just because of his fighting autism
I'm not talking about how Toei handle Goku this arc at all, I'm just saying he's not a hero, how is this hard to understand?

>>154814485
>Bergamo can fight on par with base goku who absorbed the god essence so one could argue he has SSG level of powers just on his own which would put him way above Buu in terms of raw power


senpai goku was base form and ssj until he went ssjb and 1shotted a powered up bergamo...

>>154815586
itt: headcanon

>>154814091
Goku fucked someone other than chichi?

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>Goku possesses multiple heroic traits
>Goku isn't a hero

What am I reading here?

>>154817560
>multiple heroic traits
Such as?

>>154816932

Nah, was too good

>>154817575
Shut up Whiteboy

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>>154817583
Vegeta sure is intelligent.

>>154817409
>See the trailer for this arc if you want to see how Toyotaro will introduce the gods and is better than that shit.
>That could be anything
Your argument? You said the exhibition doesn't look like filler because Toei presented the gods there, but Toyotaro can introduce them by other way and we already saw an example of how he can do it.

>The tournament will be a battle royale
And still you only see 3 jobbers and one relevant character (Toppo) in the exhibition.

>Your denial is palpable, and you clearly know nothing about storytelling if you think this isn't canon.
I know you want to look cool and that shit but you are too young to post here, kid.

>>154817623
So you don't actually have an argument?

>>154817393
He wanted Gohan to be the real "hero", Goku likes to fight strong people but I think he was tired of the "Goku save us!" thing

>>154817481
Goku literally put his friends in danger to satisfy his fighting autism
the only thing that came close in the original series was him letting Gohan fight cell and even then he realized that this was a bad idea

>>154817631
You are just nitpicking about his arguments, nothing you said in this post (and half your last onet) proves that this tournament is filler.

Not even a mangafag but that "non god forms with god power" thing is fucking stupid. You will never know how strong Goku and Vegeta are anymore, it was fine in RoF because their base was SSG tier and their SS(B) just a bit stronger but is confusing as fuck now

>>154815548
That's the only reason I can think of why Goku is so calm abound everything

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>>154817628
He sure is.

>>154817689
>nothing you said in this post proves that this tournament is filler
>proves
If we go with prove or not, no one can prove it's filler or not you dipshit

>>154817628
>>154817770
>tfw too intelligent to defeat Kakarotto

>>154817575
>Leadership
>Courage
>Selflessness
>Strong
>Prideful
>Confident

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>>154817684
You forgot when Trunks appeared, explained he comes from an apocalyptic world, Bulma realized how save the planet from this future and Goku said "lol no I want to fight"

>>154815720
I wonder what and when it'll take for Goku to finally realize how dire this arc is

>>154817623
Don't make me come over there Toyocuck.

>>154817827
>Leadership
>Courage
>Strong
>Prideful
>Confident
>Heroic traits
m8
>Selflessness
>Still hasn't revived King Kai
>Let Frieza power up to 100% and gave him energy
>Gave Cell a Senzu
>Fought Majin Vegeta for fun, not using SS3 when it meant a literal universe buster was going to be revived
>Didn't kill Fat Buu when he could have because muh new generation
Yeah ok

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>>154817243
Remember when people didn't give a shit about relevancy and we wanted more left-fielders? Remember when we got the main characters, AND the movie/anime-only characters?

>>154817943
Stupid m8 meme. kill yourself, i proved you wrong you fucking nigger.

>>154814317
Improportionate retard wrestler muscle transformation looks stupid

One and one punch only equals implosion

Replaces brain with more biceps

If SSB didn't exist it would be worst transformation

>>154817854
Goku's right, though, why should Gero be persecuted for something he hasn't done yet.

>>154818006
You can't really compare both games. BT3 is an unbalanced fuckfest.

I miss DB characters though, and I prefered character variations back then. The focus on original content is awful too.

>>154818015
>Leadership
>Courage
>Strong
>Prideful
>Confident
So Frieza is also a hero right? He displays all those traits.
And I gave you a whole list as to why Goku isn't selfless, and forgot some, and you still haven't given an argument.

>>154817854
Sure but they were gonna stop them before they killed a lot of innocent people
they weren't going to let them rampage across cities before stopping them

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Leave Black and Zamasu to me!!!

>>154818053
You're completely wrong. Go fuck yourself you fucking queer faced, rat toothed, neck bearded pile of shit

>>154817827
>Leadership
>Strong
>Prideful
>Confident
Ginyu best hero

also
>Goku
>Selflessness
Yeah Cell is grateful for that bean

>>154818070
Your argumant is proven wrong. i dismantled it you fucking faggot. Suck my dick you faggot, i want you too, you fucking queer

>>154818015
>>154818070
Why the fuck are you falseflagging autist?

>>154818053
>BT3 is an unbalanced fuckfest.
Not really. If you used the proper potara and skills, you could fuck up Gogeta and Omega Shenron easily.

>People are still arguing with those that continue to damage control Toei Goku
Why?

>>154818132
>Your argumant is proven wrong
Where? You still haven't addressed any of my point
>i want you too
Maybe you're the homosexual

>>>/v/

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>>154814494
His maximum power is less than 2 SSJ2s

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After hearing some of the other Gods of Destruction speak, I'm not convinced any of them are stronger than /ourguy/

I'm sure even Goku could stomp that clown faggot with ease.

>>154818142
I have been telling for the past week there has been an anti-gokufag false flagging

only a underage newfig would genuinely speak like this

>>154817943
>>154818070
>>154818123

>pop up when you look up heroic traits
>not heroic traits

Yeah he's selfless, I mean he only got himself killed to protect his loved ones twice

Those are not traits of him being selfish either, just careless

Also you fuckers know damn well context is everything, Cell, Frieza, and Ginyu aren't portrayed in a heroic light like Goku is, so of course they aren't heroes

>>154818053
git gud

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Post people stronger than Broly

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>Toeidrones LITERALLY ignoring context and falseflagging

>>154818171
I did prove you wrong. YOu said to name HEROIC traits, and I DID. So fuck you you fucking bellend. I'll beat your ass

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>>154818306
>those two kamikaze ghosts that slap hands before the assault
Gets me every time. Gotenks was great.

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>>154818306

Wired: There’s actually “poison” inside?

Toriyama: Right. There’s how, basically, Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys. So once Dragon Ball got animated, at any rate, I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him. I guess I couldn’t quite get them to grasp the elements of “poison” that slip in and out of sight among the shadows.

Wired: Perhaps that’s because it’s animation aimed at children, after all?

Toriyama: Well, that might be some of it, too.

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>>154818399
>There’s how, basically, Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others,

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>>154818306
only fair for non-canon to trigger non-canon

>>154815456
If you want to take hints from lyrics look at the ending

>>154818435
Goku mainly fights to challenge himself. Everything else is secondary.

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>>154818306

>>154813849

HOW DID HE ACHIEVE THIS FORM?!?!

>>154818283
>pop up when you look up heroic traits
>not heroic traits
You implied Goku's a hero because muh heroic trait which several villains have as well.

>he's selfless because he thinks his loved ones' lifes are more valuable than his own
So almost every person on Earth is selfless according to you. Who the fuck wouldn't die if the other option is let die everyone who love (and the whole planet)?

>Goku is portrayed in a heroic light
Kys and let Toriyama shit on your grave.

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>>154818399
>I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him

>>154818513
Lava Goku is cheating

>>154818565
when is it not cheating

>>154818527
>because other people have these traits that means Goku isn't a hero

0.12¢ has been deposited into your account

>>154818399
>>154818435
>>154818563
I think Toriyama is just a major hack, which is why the Buu saga was so shit. His editors were Dragon Ball's real MVPs.

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>>154818634
>I think Toriyama is just a major hack
>I think

>>154818621
No, because VILLAINS have these supposed "Heroic" traits that are vague as fuck, then it means they're not a valid way to judge if someone is heroic or not.
>Le shill meme XD Ahah
End your life, /v/.

>>154818634
>Toriyama is just a major hack
Ffs Toriyama is not a fucking hack

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>>154818306

>>154814774
Cooler unlocked his 5th form by training already. He isn't a prodigy like Freeza.

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Post people who've had it worse than Shin

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>>154818525
He's just that damn good.

>>154814710
Dont diss the superior board nigger

>>154818435
>Goku is angry because Nappa killed his friends, that makes him a hero!

>>154818711
Future Shin.

>>154818711
I was going to say Future Trunks, but nuFuture Trunks is just a massive failure who let down his universe and didn't even try to use the Dragon Balls or anything like that to fix it, he's also okay with Goku getting Future Gohan's soul wiped from existence by Zeno.

>>154818668
t. Akira Toriyama

>>154818621
>Goku good traits are just everyone's traits, he's a hero!
Keep trying

>>154818677
>literally a whole 3 porn pictures
What the fuck is wrong with people?

>>154818758
>didn't even try to use the Dragon Balls
There are no dragon balls in his timeline, genius
>he's also okay with Goku getting Future Gohan's soul wiped from existence
What should he have done? Try and fight Goku and get his ass kicked in front of everyone? It wasn't Goku's fault Zeno destroyed his timeline, he had no idea what Zeno would do.

>>154813849
That makes no fucking sense, Toyotaro is a hack.

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>Toriyama
>not master hack

>>154818803
Shit taste.

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>>154818758
>received several asspulls
>still failed
Top kek

>>154818737
don't act like you have any authority faggot

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I want to throat-fuck Whis!

>>154818836
>SSGSS
>not SSG
That makes no sense

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>>154818758
Future Trunks doesn't have access to any Dragon Balls whatsoever.

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>>154818306
To be fair, not that many can beat her anyways.

>>154818824
>Try and fight Goku and get his ass kicked in front of everyone?
He could have atleast been mad, Goku forgetting the seal / grabbing the wrong seal really fucked him over. There are Dragon Balls in the timeline when he goes back in time, and Super Dragon Balls now :^)

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>>154818842
>(You)
>Not asshurt

>>154818758
>didn't even try to use the Dragon Balls or anything like that to fix it
What Dragon Balls? Earth's are gone, nobody knows where Namek is and he has no idea the Super DBs exist. Plus they're all destroyed by Black and Zamasu.

>>154818758

>he's also okay with Goku getting Future Gohan's soul wiped from existence by Zeno.
Fused Zamasu become one with the entire universe, which includes the afterlife. Those souls were all gone before Zeno ever showed up.

>>154818897
He has a time machine, mongo.

>>154818856
They better lift their games soon or I'm going to be mad at them.

>>154818525
Shut up

>>154818920
We have no idea if taking Dende to the future with the Dragon Balls would work. The Super Dragon Balls were destroyed by Zamasu, I think.

>>154819016
Is that a secret "hi" anon?

>>154818863
>>>/lgbt/

>>154813539
kitano,the ebisawa/uchiyama of dbs