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tfw more of her when?
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I can't wait to hear Kaioken x20 again
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>>154796637
This ningen comin to take the godly pussy!!
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An message to the cancer of DBS's thread:

Both versions are good on their own.

People saying This is better than That are cancer, we have the chance to get two interpretation of the same story.

We don't need people doing a dick contest about it.

So objectively, no version is better than the other, they have their own pro and con, it's just a question of taste.

I prefer the Manga because I'm much less forgiving about inconsistencies but I respect those who love the Anime for his qualities.

Except the Animefags and Mangafags, no respect for them
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>Goku and Gohan are the main fighters with Vegeta being there for Vegito
Things are finally going right. Thank you Toriyama for stopping those Vegetafags at Toei from ruining Dragon Ball
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>>154796637
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>tfw Super will never be a series of well animated, well thought out movies instead of low quality shit
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>>154796684
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>The 10 strongest fighters of U7 are to compete in the Tournament of Might
>No Hercule
>No Jackie Chun
>No Broly (his power is maximum)
This arc is shit. SHIT.
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He should've just taken the pussy by force
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>>154796637
>>154796753
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Exclusive sneak peak at Toyo's version of Fusion Zamasu's ulgy from
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if Jiren the Gray is stronger than Toppo, would Jiren come close to any of the Gods of Destruction?
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>>154796753
>easily ass blasted if something doesn't go his way like a child
Mmm

https://u.nya.is/ehxitj.mp4
>y-y-you're just an appertizer

https://u.nya.is/kcmplb.mp4
>destroys random buildings in a fit of rage
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How long will Universe Survival arc be?

With a 48 minute battle royale tournament, the rules are bound to change.
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Hi, anon! Would you like to come train with me?
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>>154796637
>manga black is literally xicor
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>>154796678
DB characters have always been vulnerable to mundane shit.
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>>154796678
Leave Black and Zamasu to me!!!
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>>154796752
Who cares?? he's still the main character next to goku... Gohan it's only there to job
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>>154796752
Why is Goku suddenly a great dad again? What happened to the guy who slept while the rest of his family was watching Gohan's movie
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>>154796717
This, I prefer the Anime but I don't shit on the other version
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>>154796897
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8vtBAQq9w
AUTISMUS MAXIMUS
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>>154796929
Gohan stopped being a nerd
>>154796917
Vegeta is still the King of Jobbers
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>>154796972
Ain't as bad as Dicasty videos lmao
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>>154796825
That's a very weak response because getting slightly annoyed is much different than breaking down and screeching like an autist.
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>>154796897
Sorry, but Black and Zamasu getting caught off guard and thwarted by regular humans was stupid.
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>>154796929
Gohan is making daddy proud again
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>>154797010
Zamasu is an autist, Toyo doesn't forget that unlike Toei which treats Black like a completely different entity.
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>>154796971
Wasn't taken by surprise.

Was careful against trunks.
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>>154796678
It works on Kryptonians. Why wouldn't their lungs be susceptible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXnn5PZ7yg
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>>154796753
I'm must say i'm an anime-fag But this is getting ridiculous honestly, Both have flaws both are good on their own.That's it
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Is it time to perform the ritual for Gohan? Do we have any spoliers
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>>154797010
>destroys random buildings in a fit of rage
>slightly annoyed
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>>154796971
Trunks still managed to get away, what's your point?

The fact he even does something to remove the dust shows he is bothered by it to begin with.
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>>154796770

Oracle Fish
-Promises Beerus that he'll the challenges of dealing with a Super Saiyan God
-Has to constantly deal with Son Goku's antics instead
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>>154797051
Whatever you say bud.
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>>154797048
Which is why he's so much better in the Anime.
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>>154797060
>I'm must say i'm an anime-fag But this is getting ridiculous honestly, Both have flaws both are good on their own.That's it
>Mangacuck
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>>154796897
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>>154796753
>alpha
Top kek

Hides behind his clones like a bitch because he's scared of taking another beating from Vegeta
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>>154796753
>SmugOuchie
>"Alpha"
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>>154796754
Good for me I don't have the patience enough to wait 3 or 4 freaking years for every arc
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>>154797074
Indeed for a saiyajin, he's slightly annoyed.
Manga black scream like a bitch, cry about pain more and more and more often.
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Hey smugpupfag sweetie are you still lurking out there?
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>>154797108
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>>154797087
Same goes for you buddy.
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>>154797151
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>>154797160
>reaching this hard
wew lad
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>>154797017
Because they weren't careful.

Goku getting hit by a laser.

Remember?
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>>154797239
>Out of arguments
Kek!
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Reminder

Report this guy for contamining our threads
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>>154797048
Nice meme but Zamasu has no character in the manga to begin with, his character only gets exposure when its relevant to the plot and has no buildup for any of those scenes to have any deeper meaning.

Whereas in the anime we see him being fleshed out before he becomes the villian and all of his subsequent actions feel a lot more natural and authentic than they are in manga.
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>>154796826
A wrestling setting would have been much better than a boring arena
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>>154797281
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I wish they were allowed to kill
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>black missed gowasu vital points because his words actually hit him

Manga black > anime black
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>>154797386
>Zamasu
>fleshed out
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154797017
Ever since RoF they've somewhat changed what most people assumed were the rules about characters in Dragonball.

Powerful characters no longer have a blanket immunity to all damage that doesn't come from a powerful enough source. Rather it seems to have been made such that their defenses are more like a field of energy that they have to manually project around themselves like a force field.

This has led to the many moments in Super where powerful characters have been harmed by seemingly weak and mundane weapons like guns and that finger laser that almost killed Goku.

It's just how things are now.
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>>154797300
>Just a furry
>Not the Mangacucks and Animefags


Great sense of priority there.
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>Based Toyo forever triggering the animefags
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>>154797262
>>154797418
>Goku getting hit by a laser.
Wouldn't be surprised if that was more Toei shit.
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>>154797300
>Ban the furry who's been translating and helping people in these threads because people turn gay for him

Anon what is your problem?
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>>154797414
See how toyblecucks always avoid discussion?
This is when you know you have won the argument
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>Animefags would rather cry about the latest manga chapter than talk about their anime episode

>More proof that the anime is so shit even animefags are bored by it
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>>154797466
No, that was in the RoF movie.

This was before Super.
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>>154796637

Spooky looking picture... what's her name again?
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I just found funny that Yesterday i got banned just for calling a guy "faggot" in other thread , while here you see much worse things,and nobody does anything... I Don't even know why but mods are fucking useless in here.
>Autism off
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>>154797488
The only good factor that the anime has over the manga is the sole factor that he got triggered by Goku in their duel.
This came at the cost of plot consistency because it caused a Causal Loop Time Paradox.
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>Toppo gets Goku in a hold
>Goku not even in his strongest form
>Everyone aside from U7 thinks Goku was going to lose, despite seeing Goku go SSB in the previous match

Did they assume that transformation was a one-time thing? Or were they really that dumb?
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>>154797413
This, I like how it actually seemed like Black was listening to reason, but ultimately decides against it because he's too far gone.
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>>154797564
perhaps your IP got flagged from multiple other posts that also got reported.
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>>154797566
>he got triggered by Goku in their duel.
>good factor
?
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>>154796971
not even the same scene
2. also happened in the anime
https://youtu.be/gHnKNHc-ls0?t=3m13s

skip 3.12
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>>154797627
It was alright but it came at a big price which was bullshit.
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>>154797420
>>154797475
#protectourpuppy
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>>154797553
New best girl Helles
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>>154797196
I wonder what Frieza tastes like?
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>>154797566
manga never explained why zamaasu stole his body, why didn't he stole Hit body you know the guy who won
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>>154797609
Yeah that's an option..I guess I'll try to report posts in here to see if it works.
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>>154797566
Nice canned reply, but you're quite retarded if you think giving a character believable motivations and proper characterization is less important than making use of a shitty plot device in a way that doesn't break suspension of disbelief at all.
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>>154797566

Does anyone else think that the Zenosama other side "hand raise" thing is going to have some implications down the line?
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>>154797590
Yeah, honestly I felt that it would have been far more appropriate if Goku had only gone SSJ2 to finish of Bergamo.

That would have made the whole unexpected turn around thing in the Toppo fight make more sense. Plus I felt that going all the way to SSB with Kaioken was completely unnecessary and over the top for Goku to beat Bergamo, the guy just wasn't that impressive as a fighter.
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>>154797697
He was obsessed with the fact that a human was cloaked in God Ki and got a tsundere hate boner for him.
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>>154797697
Yeah why didn't Zamasu take Hit's body when Hit was stronger than Goku with his "improvement" shit?
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>>154797688

He tastes like failure.
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>>154797730
On the Manga, it's out of nowhere.

In the Anime, his fight make his choice more obvious because goku is the one who humiliated him as a ningen.
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>>154797742
Because Goku's body has zenkai and transformations.
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So if Toppo was the bodyguard of U11's Kaioshin, then did he die when Black came to kill the gods?
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>>154797819
>it's out of nowhere.
Only if you're retarded.
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>>154797488
>actually taking pride in winning "arguments" over anime

i thought there weren't people out there worse than those with diaper fetishes, but i was wrong
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>>154797843
THIS
Black was less powerful than him

Explain this
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>>154797721
The anime is shit, Goku and Vegeta trained endlessly and fought numerous people to become as strong as they are. Yet here are random people who are as strong as they are. The Manga is decent, though I do have gripes with it.
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>>154797846
Just a basic shit talking between Kaioshin and Godtube is enough for you?
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Zamasu watched Godtube and asked Zuno all there is about Goku, so why didn't he use Kaioken?
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>>154797843
>>154797869
Black fucked Khai chan in his sleep.
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>>154797892
Khais dont sleep
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>>154797666

DOWN WITH ANIME VS MANGA SHITPOSTERS
#PROTECTOURPUPPY
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>>154797869
>Black was less powerful than him
imblinyng
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>>154797874
Trunks is a talented warrior mixed saiyan/human so it's not like they give asspull to anyone '
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>>154797881
Whether you think it's enough or not, it didn't come out of nowhere.
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>>154797919
Super Saiyan Rose would have kicked the shit out of Toppo, but regular Black didn't get that until after he fought with Goku.
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>>154797763
Time travel is a plot device and you're quite the disingenous faggot if you think it's something that would affect the enjoyment of a series.


I could call out toyble for pulling bullshit out of his ass with the mechanics of timetravel in the manga in a terrible attempt to create tension for the final battle and that would have far more merit because despite his shitty excuses he couldn't manage to make it even slightly as engaging as the anime.
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>>154797919
He didnt had rose when he killed them
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>>154797987
>I could call out toyble for pulling bullshit out of his ass with the mechanics of timetravel in the manga
I'd like to see you fucking try newfag.
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>>154797590
Toei can't write for shit, remember when Kaioshin thought Buu was done for because he had a hole in his chest?
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>>154797987
>>154798024
Even Toriyama himself realized the Time Machine's charge time being 3 years is more convenient for the plot than the previous 8 months, which would make Trunks show up too early after giving the Heart Medicine.
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>>154798007
>>154797984
My memory is fuzzy, But didn't he achieved the ssr Off-screen??
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>>154796897
Nonsensical filler because Goku can blow up the whole lake by simply moving a finger
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>>154797420
>>154797666
>>154797912

You guys are too nice, thanks. It's people like you guys that's worth sticking around for. Also looking forwards to 17 showing up in 2 weeks time. Have been looking forwards to that for a while now.
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>>154798133
Yeah but he already killed all the kais before facing trunks
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>>154796929
At least Goku was there. That's miles ahead of DBZ Goku. Hell, Gohan wasn't even the MC, Barry was. Gohan was just the stunt double
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>>154798155
Well, those who shit on you are probably either animefags or mangacucks.
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>>154796972
I thought it was a girl. What's wrong with your country?
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Do you guys think that toyo is algo gonna pull the half informatl shit for zamasu?
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Do you guys honestly hate the manga or do you just love shitposting?
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>>154798275
Hope not that shit was dumb.
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>>154798288
I hate the anime.
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I can't help it but wish Vegeta was present on all of this warm-up event. He is our second hero, our second thank. He could have studied, and scare them all, like Goku did (two mortals with gods' ki).

At least he'll have his tme to surprise them soon
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>>154798340
So why bothering those who love it?

Mangafags/Animefags are truly retarded.
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>>154798288
I enjoy both, but this chapter wasn't very good. And Toyo literally copy and pasted shit from his unfinished AF comic
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>>154798428
Not seeing how this is bad. He's using his own ideas from his unfinished manga and making them official.
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>>154798024
Please notice how this drawback of time travel only came to exist in that panel and when it was time for the final battle.
This is very clearly an attempt from toyble to create tension for the final battle, adding mechanics that weren't ever hinted to exist in the past the way he decided to achieve this.
If you think this isn't too convenient for the narrative you're retarded.

And again, you are retarded if you think the usage of convenient plot devices are sufficent to detract from anyone's enjoyment of a series, specially when said series gives no fucks about being consistent with them.
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>>154798458
That's literally laziness.
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>>154798428
This meme again.
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>>154798487
No it isn't. It's him being able to make his ideas official.
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>>154798383

For some people, the hatred of the tastes of the "vapid" is the only thing keeping them going; it gives them a sense of self worth and self esteem that they "know" they're better than something else, because they put it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xu8f43QUk
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>>154798491
What does that picture have anything to do with what was posted?
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>>154798500
It's laziness, he don't have to think since he has done it since years.
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>>154798545
>/a/ is this stupid
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>>154798515
Well said sir!
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>>154798458
It's bad because it's contrived as hell and also required him to trample over what he established many chapters ago and give some hamfisted explanation to justify it.


Nevertheless SSJG is still slower than SSB, there is no way Vegeta should even be able to approach Black.

Even if we assume SSJG is strong enough to be equal to Black, why not use SSB from the start and finish him off as fast as possible?
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>>154797085
Monkey's paw, and all that.
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>>154798500
Thus confirming that the manga is not canon since he isn't taking Toriyama's ideas and is just rehashing his own deviant art level head canon shite into the manga.

Thanks for confirming.
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>>154798611
>Nevertheless SSJG is still slower than SSB, there is no way Vegeta should even be able to approach Black.
>
>Even if we assume SSJG is strong enough to be equal to Black, why not use SSB from the start and finish him off as fast as possible?

/a/ really is this stupid. It's not SSG's speed, it's SSB's. He's transforming every time he performs an action.
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>>154798647
>toeishill logic
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>>154798428
I don't agree with AF meme but i definitely don't like the role Trunks is playing and the ssg Reintroduction it feels unnecessary,pointless and makes things more complicated than it should be
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>>154798428
Still better than the anime version where Vegeta just somehow got stronger in 6 mouths, this was more creative.
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>>154798686
Both aren't canon, but whichever ends up with better writing will be more enjoyable.

Xicor rehashing is about as enjoyable as GT aka fill my head with lead cause I'd rather be dead aka pedro pandering garbage.
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>>154798776
>mouths
months*
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>>154798794
>but whichever ends up with better writing will be more enjoyable.
The anime has terrible writing though. Anime is good for the flashy theatrics
The manga has better writing until you get to the SSG pandering. The manga would be far better if he didn't keep changing things around so he could keep making SSG relevant
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>>154798776
>SAIYAN CAN'T TRAIN
>SAIYAN CAN'T BE STRONGER BY ANGER
>REEEEE!!!!!
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>>154798590
>Vegeta trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>uses Super Saiyan God for the first time next chapter
>beats the shit out of Black by rapidly switching between SSG and SSB without Black noticing

>Vegeta trains in Dr. Briefs' time room
>uses Legendary Super Saiyan for the first time next chapter
>beats the shit out of Xicor by rapidly switching between SS3, SS4, and LSS without Xicor noticing
>draws Black in the same pose, and uses almost the same exact dialog as Xicor after getting his ass kicked by Vegeta

>b-b-but Toriyama did something similar with the Kaio-ken in the Namek Saga, so your argument in invalid. AF meme BTFO!
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>>154798650
He only turns into SSB when he needs to attack, that still doesn't make up for the overall distance he crosses as a SSJG to be within range.
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>>154798843
Better writing, I dunno.

I will say better respect to goku and better story telling with much less inconsistencies but Toyotaro's writing isn't that great.

Both have their pros and cons anyway
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>>154798843
The fact that toei fucked up so hard in writing they made Goku actually seem nonchalantly evil like a true saiyan is pretty entertaining.

I'd rather fuck ups than autism; at least the former is more akin to Toriyama, the latter just resembles that kid that draws 'Cold Steel the hedgeheg'.
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>>154798940
nice reference
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>>154796867
>Girlku will never ask you to train with her
Life sucks
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>>154799058
>they made Goku actually seem nonchalantly evil
Sure.
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tfw soon.
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>>154799149
>THAT'S MY BRAAAAAAA
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>>154799093
Of course he is asking when Grand Priest said U7 is the second lowest
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>>154799092
That it does, my friend.
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>>154799093
>"I'm evil, huh?"
>Doomed trillions of people to death because he wanted to beat the shit out of strong people
>When given a way out of his mistake he instead goes all out then brags to the other universes about their impeding doom

If you don't think that is an aloof evil then I don't know what to say to convince you.
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>>154796678

Ningen farts are a very powerful weapon.

>>154797885

Because Kaioken is GEC(Goku Exclusive Content)
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>>154799249
>>154799293
>being anime Goku levels of retarded
wew lad
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>>154799149
>Bra is a chestnut
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>>154799293
Zeno said don't hold back or he will nuke all the universes. Goku had no choice.
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>>154799092
>Girlku will never beat you up while making that face
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>>154797885
Toei can't write for shit.
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>>154799092
>>154799260
Goku has a shit personality. Even a female Vegeta would make a better girlfriend. She'd be a tsundere, but the understandable kind of tsundere who has reasons to act the way she does and eventually (begrudgingly) accomodates to life on earth.
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>>154796637
I read this as "tfw vore of her when?" and got a little scared
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>>154797885
something something 90% chance to kill yourself and it causing irrversible damage.

Even right now Goku is using the x2 version. and the only other time he used it was against Zamasu when all his bones were already broken.
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>>154799351
Goku gets damaged by bullets and lazers, c'mon now he could've easily threw the match by pretending to be cocky and getting his shit smashed. It was purely saiyan pride that stopped him from throwing the match.
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>>154799447
>vore
anon stop browsing deviant art it's not good for you.
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How would you feel if the manga did retcon the potara? Say if Goku or Vegeta says "Do you think we could defeat him in five minutes or less if we fused using the dance?" then the other would suggest the earrings only to have Gowasu explain that they would be on a time crunch either way do to the amount of power they could potentially put out.
Personally I'd be fine with it because at least they're explaining why there's a time limit instead of it being a surprise and taking an unnecessary hit so it would be explained later.
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>>154799391
That doesn't make Girlku any less hot.
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>>154799566
It's not if. The retcon WILL happen next month because it came from Toriyama
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>>154799566
I feel like they'd be better sticking with Goku's theory about Buu's digestion.
It's been over 2 decades. Anyone watching has accepted it.
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>>154799391
We never said girlfriend, we said training partner.
No shit Vagina would be a better girlfriend but that would make her soft in training, you need someone who would throw their feelings aside to get stronger with you.(Girlku)
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>>154799566
I hope Vegito uses SSG but switches to SSB like Vegeta did to conserve energy so that the fusion doesn't end early.
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>>154799474
Do you think he can trick the priest?
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>>154799566
It would also potentially make more sense if the difference lay in simply the universe of origin. U10's could have been intentionally temporary in nature, which doesn't necessarily retcon U7's potara I would think.
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>>154799683
Even SSG would put the potara on a mega time crunch
>>154799618
Always did love that jacket
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>>154799754
>Even SSG would put the potara on a mega time crunch
nah bud. the potaras don't time out. and ssjg has low energy consumption
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>>154799566
It has to be retconned because somewhere down the line people realized they could just fuse to overcome any threat.

I'm sure it wasn't toei's idea because they would have preferred him lasting for 10 episodes to milk him.
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>>154798857

-Goku, Vegeta and Trunks destroy the body of Zamas, even though he's immortal
-Zamas tried to merge of the universe, becoming the universes sense of "justice", gets obliterated by Zenosama
-Toppo and the rest of the gods keep chanting "Justice" while surrounded by a red/black aura

How ominous.
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>>154799809
Any form of SSJ reduces the overall time of the fusion

SSJ3 Gotenks could only last 5 minutes.
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>>154799869
the potara earrings don't time out, my friend
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This is Candlejack. Could Goku be
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>>154798483
(You)
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>>154799894
https://youtu.be/BLikP6BDH5w
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>>154799719
He could've just kept punching him instead of going from ssj to ssbkk kamehameha, maybe Bergamo would've grown strong enough to fight back, who knows.

At the very least Goku should feel bad for winning and dooming gorilions, he was more upset that the fight was lame.
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Are they just going to use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber 2.0?
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I can't be the only one seeing all the signs pointing towards Gohan being the hero of this arc

It's finally happening, my favorite anime character is going to shine again
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>>154799987
i'm not clicking your meme link but yes, i'm sure
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>>154799894
They do now, buddy.
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>>154800023
You're just setting yourself up for disappointment, anon. His Super Columbine 2 days are long in the past.
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>>154800035
only in the toeiverse, which is not canon
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>>154800023
You should watch more anime.
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>>154799149
Did that onion kai fucked bulma??
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>>154800023
me too anon. They keep dropping hints and Gohan continues to say he is excited and wants to get stronger and shit. Im fucking excited anon
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>>154800080
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>>154800023

Reminder that they, and one Zenosama, are the only ones who know the story behind the "Goku Black" saga.
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>>154800109
>2 similar panels in a manga spanning 18+ volumes? must be traced!
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>>154800080
No.
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>>154800108
Zenosama doesn't know anything, all he knows is that he got rid of some annoying faggot on the sky.
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>>154800135
>Similar

The fingers are literally traced

Nice try toyofag
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>>154799822
Fucking definitely. Vegito brings LOTS of hype. They could have quite easily dragged out Vegito v. Zamasu for at least 2-3 episodes if they really wanted to (And they should have, honestly.) The fight was supposed to be huge like Goku v. Beerus, but ended up being somewhat lackluster due to its length. Though Naotoshi's cuts for it were beautiful, albeit not his best.

More than likely if Vegito does show up in the manga, it won't be for long; possibly due to the same new rules for Potara fusions.
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>>154800109

Might as well criticize anytime an anime draws a roundhouse kick, or a dramatic uppercut.
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>>154800169
>literally traced
>they aren't even remotely congruent
wew
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>>154799149
Rule 34 of super bra when??
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>>154800109
>Trunks fights like his master
What's the issue here?
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>>154800169
you don't even know what tracing is do you?
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>>154800016
I hope so, a ten man training operation over the course of give or take a month off of 2 years would be awesome. Even the regular time chamber would do.
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>>154800023
Hero of the arc you say??!
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>>154800016
I sure as hell fucking hope so, the difference in power of the team is way too drastic
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>>154800285
>>154800261
>>154800199
>>154800185

Toyofags in denial
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I hope that Frost unlocks Coolers form, not some shitty play off of gold.
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>>154800364
wow good point! never thought about it that way
>mfw this much damage control from some faggot who doesn't even know what tracing is
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>>154800065
I wish the manga came out first so the anime would at least use some of its art like Z uses its manga art
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>>154800312
>that coloring
Gross.
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>>154800016
Whis is going to do something to make Bra be born quicker, so some time manipulation thing like the RoSaT is likely being set up.
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>>154799093

Reminder that Vegeta had a partner named Raditz.....
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>>154800430
And be stuck in filler hell like Z? Fuck no.
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>>154799093

And another partner named Nappa.

*Stares at Vegeta*

I'm sure it's a completely innocent coincidence though.......
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>>154800453
Shueisha did it lol, you color your own way anon.
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>>154800532
*grabs your throat*
BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!??
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>>154800510
Filler gave us good stuff like base vegito vs buu and the added tension on gokus and friezas fight.
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>>154800488
yes that's the joke thank you for that
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WHY DONT THEY TRAIN IN THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER? SPECIFICALLY GOHAN
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does somebody has that Promotional image of the Survival arc where gohan is showed in ssj with his bang
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>>154800572
base vegetto vs boohan fucked up the scaling in the boo saga so bad though
>>154800594
maybe because gohan doesn't want to be away from his kid and wife for a whole year? imagine that
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>>154800594

Is there enough time for them to train?
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Super is so fucking shitty
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>>154800707
Vamos, Pedro
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>>154800681
Don't know gow many people can fit in the Room but sure 6 months per 2 persons is more than enough
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>>154800707
If you watched Dragon Ball or Z for the first time without any nostalgia goggles you'd hate them for the same reasons you hate Super.
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>>154800681
well they only need 24 hours to get a full year of prep training done
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>>154800754

Does her name just mean soda V? Like Vodka and Soda I'm guessing?
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>>154800594
First they need to get the 10 guys. Then plan shit out. Then train for a day. But hyperbolic chamber probably just the humans. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and peharps Piccolo will train in Whis special room.

>>154800625
>it is just 24 hours in real time
>implying Videl and the baby cant survive without Gohan for 24hours
>better let the universe be destroyed rather than training in a special room for a day

It makes sense
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>>154800800
Fuck off Superfag DB and DBZ are actually good
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>>154800841
Whis = Whiskey
Vados = Vodka
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>>154800403
Not that guy but this is irrelevant since I doubt Toriyama even knows who Xicor is and Toyo literally dedicated the last chapter to Xicor the Saiya-hedgeheg.
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>>154800844
>it is just 24 hours in real time
not to Gohan you dumb fuck. the whole point of it is time moves slower inside the chamber. besides if you were Gohan, would you really think you could catch up to Goku and Vegeta in a year with no angel or GoD to train with?
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>>154800625
This:>>154800844
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>>154797418
>This has led to the many moments in Super where powerful characters have been harmed by seemingly weak and mundane weapons like guns and that finger laser that almost killed Goku.
Not really a new thing is it?
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>>154800950
why did you "This" a post that was not only already a response to me, but one i had already responded to here >>154800921 ?
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>>154799149

Wait a minute! That hairstyle...
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>>154796770

Isn't broly died?
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>>154800858
>we wouldn't see 17 until episode 86
Being a 17 fag is suffering
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>>154800921
Who gives a fuck how Gohan feels about it? Its either utilize the time you have been given in the most effective way you can or be erased. An can Gohan catch up to Goku and Vegeta? Yes. No one else can. But as they say, Gohan can catch up because of his potential. And even if he doesn't catch up, he will be close. Which is better than no improvement
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>>154800880
Sucks how they dropped the alcohol pun when they started introducing the rest of the gods.
Zeno should have been Jack Daniels or something.
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>>154801028
>Who gives a fuck how Gohan feels about it?
gohan does, you moron. it's his choice so obviously his feelings would matter
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>>154800844
Because that would make his ass relevant and steal some more of the spotlight from Goku
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>>154801022
>>154800858
fuck meant to reply to OP
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>>154801052
>his feelings matter
>gohan can listen to his feelings
>or risk his wife, child and life being erased

you sure are a pussy.
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>>154801044
Zeno doesn't count
it's just GoDs and angels that have the alcohol names
U11s Angel is named Marcarita
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>>154796637

Reminder that anime is art, and that sometimes, just like in movies, the artists sneak in significant details very subtlety that are overlooked by a large portion of the audience.
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>>154797175
Make him blush in that pic.
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>>154801109
what the fuck are you even babbling about now? did you even read any of my posts? why would gohan assume he could catch up to goku and vegeta on his own in 1 year?
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>>154800963

Sub-titled; Goku and the butterfly effect.
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>>154798155
The only problem I have with you is that you act like an attention whore and you're no different than tripfags.
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>>154801156
That you autistically believe Gohan would not sacrifice one year to save his family because of "feelings". And why is your logic so fucking stupid. He can either A. just compete in 40 hours and get raped or B. go in the hyperbolic time chamber and train with Piccolo or whoever the fuck for a fucking year and at least get stronger and contribute more.

Are you seriously this fucking stupid?
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>>154797984
Is SS rose only for goku black? Or can any of them achieve it? I haven't watched in a while.
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>>154801150
What? Buu is unfazed by SSB Kaioken?
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>>154799093
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>>154801251
the amount of gains he'd get in a year with only his daily dose to train with wouldn't be significant in any way whatsoever
why would he bother?
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I hope Jiren and NotBeerus do silly poses like Toppo
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>>154800963
>>154801202

Really makes you wonder about 911 huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9avmokgzw8
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>>154801222
That I can understand, I slip out of anonymity quite often. Sorry about that.
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>>154801283
Have you seen in the series what the hyperbolic time chamber has done to every warrior? they come out substantially stronger. You cannot be this dumb
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>>154801334
>they come out substantially stronger
uh yeah back when SSJ1 was a big deal and before goku and vegeta started training with gods and angels
jesus you are stupid
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>>154801222
>>154801327

but if you didn't how would we get you to help us with random shit that you just seem to pop out of nowhere with and know it was you?
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>>154801269
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>>154800921

Whis and Beerus will be around because Beerus is concerned as fuck, which he should. Or you really think the other gods of the other universes will not do some training or planning with their teams?
Gohan is being hyped to be important in this arc, like FTorankusu was in the last one, so Gohan will be strong again next to Goku and Vegeta. Gohan's potential is full hax, so yes he can be very strong with less training than others(see how he got into the strongest SSJ in less than a year when training with his dad).
Gohan already understood he needs to train or his family, his friends and the fucking universe will disappear, so unless Gohan does his job of helping wininng the damn tournament there is no work, no studing, no money or family to go back for. And Videl is not stupid, she knows Gohan is strong and needs to help his retarded father once in a while
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>>154801408
>And Videl is not stupid, she knows Gohan is strong and needs to help his retarded father once in a while
stopped reading right there
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>>154801371
>vegeta gets raped
>trains in the hyperbolic time chamber
>rapes Black

Also
>training with Gods and Angels when you only have 24 hours
>train for a year with someone

kys
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>>154801398

He probably means when I start blabbing on about off topic stuff and avatarfagging, which I admit I do rather often, like right now.
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>>154801028
>Who gives a fuck how Gohan feels about it?

Gohanfags, everyone
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>>154801334
but anon this is Gohan we're talking about he barely knows how to train,he has no motivation he's weak,he will get scared and problably he will ended up killing himself inside.
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>>154801283
>365 daily doses
>Insignificant gains

He'll single handedly win the tourney.
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>>154801469
kys

>>154801459
>Gohanfags, everyone

Yeah let him not train because he feels he cannot be away from Pan for a year so he cannot contribute to the fight and risk his universe being erased.
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>>154801269

Is Goku a sheep or a goat with a head injury?
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>>154801532
what are you on about
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>>154801311
>Krillen gets Ginyu flashbacks
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>>154801269
I would!
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>>154801283

To get back in shape at the very least. To get back his Ultimate/mystic power whatever its called instead of a normal super saiyan 1

>>154801371
Vegeta couldn't be back into the hyperbolic chamber because of time limitations.
That was changed in Super and Vegeta already got there when those rules were changed
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What's with the retarded speculations?

If Toriyama wants Gohan to be the strongest he'll pull some bullshit straight from his asshole and make it so, if he doesn't he'll pull some bullshit straight from his asshole and make roshi win it.

This isn't science, just (laughs).
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>>154801028
>Who gives a fuck how Gohan feels about it?

Shut up Goku
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>>154801607
Gohan never lost his potential unlock. You can't lose a potential unlock. He stacks SSJ on top of it like in GT.
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>>154801532
>When you are killed by wolves in a forest
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>>154801628
Goku does not care dipshit
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Gonna get the daily dose
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>>154801532

He's ahead, with a goat jury in sheep.
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>>154801532
>>154801322


Multiverse theory and collective consciousness forms some very weird theories when mixed together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Xg7lYuYus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSAIJIiS9mU
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>>154797418
I prefer it like this. Just because someone's ki is literally a quadrillion times more potent than mine doesn't mean they're automatically exempt from all forms of unconventional harm. If Freeza completely let his guard down and his skin wasn't naturally bulletproof, he should totally be fallible with a single shot to the head.
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>>154801649
Makes no sense honestly. Mystic just means Gohan can fully and freely utilize his ki without restraint. SSJ is literally useless and would just be undue stress and energy drain in his case. Someone beat this into the writer's heads.
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>>154801649
But that is the wrong way to use his power after unlocking that shit with Elder Kai. Elder Kai even warned him, or the saiyans, about how using SSJ isn't good for them and how ki is wasted with no need, same shit Whis told Goku and Vegeta when training them awhile ago.
That's why the Ultimate/Mystic form seemed so based, due to seem like a perfect base form
>>
DB Super drinking game: Take a drink every time you hear WAKU WAKU
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>>154801649
The whole point of the potential unlock was that Gohan was as strong as he could be. Going Super Saiyan wouldn't do anything.
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>>154801978
It worked better everytime anyone said NINGEN back then.
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>>154802056

There's no reason that Gohan can't be at least as strong as Trunks was in DBS.
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NNNNNNNNNNNYAAAA

I WILL NOTLETYOUDESTROYMYWHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRLLLLLL
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>>154802207
This makes me crack up every time man
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>>154802110
Except for the following reasons:
-Trunks actually trains
-Trunks fighting style avoids doing nonsense and goes for the kill, instead of fucking around with the enemy when you have the advantage like Gohan did with Cell and Buu
-Trunks has more willpower than Gohan and is serious about protecting the people he love, meanwhile Gohan easily gave up training when given the chance

Having more "potential" means jackshit because it is wasted on Gohan.
If anything he should use the Dragon Balls to exchange bodies with someone who would actually put it to good use like Piccolo or Tenshinhan.
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>>154801150

Is Gohan "our guy"?

The first to use the expression "original man," or "heavenly man," was Philo, in whose view the γενικός, or οὐράνιος ἄνθρωπος, "as being born in the image of God, has no participation in any corruptible essence
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>>154802110
>>154802272
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Are these real? and if not do real ones exist. This is the first time I've seen them and barely bought them yesterday so I don't know
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>>154802391
That's from the old DBZ TCG that went out of production years ago. There's a new edition out.
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>>154802391
Yes. Damn, that's a blast from the past. I remember playing that game in elementary school. I think I still have a whole binder full of those cards somewhere.
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>>154802207
This isn't an actual screencap, r-right?
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>>154802472
>not playing Magic The Gathering instead

Your elementary school must have been in some Mexican neighborhood
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>>154802354

That's what the symbolism was originally implied to be anyway. "Cell" is code for Sel/Satan in the darkest definition of the word. Goku and Vegeta were just more popular. :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G-ssRmWPvE
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>>154802549
Nah, middle of bumfuck nowhere. Magic the Gathering was middle school. Elementary was Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh, DBZ, in that order.
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>>154802391
I use to collect those and Yu-Gi-Oh cards back in the day, but lost most of them due to moving alot.
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>>154802687
>be me
>4th grade: Pokemon
>5th grade: Crazy Bones
>6th grade: Magic the Gathering
>7th grade onward: Nothing
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>>154802687
It's always been Yugioh for me and my friends. we just can't enjoy other formats of card games, unless it's hold 'em.
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Well this thread got quiet.

Just proves DBS threads don't have enough traffic without the incessant manga v anime shitposting, Pedros and proxies.
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>>154802964
Well that and it's the middle of the night for a lot of places. I don't want to attention whore either because apparently that's been annoying people as of late (although I shamefully admit I enjoy it a littlA LOT).
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>>154802964
Don't get short with me Juan
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>>154798428
Just gonna say
Trunks does this in dbm.
And does repeat ssb transformation not have the drawbacks in the manga it did in the anime, or is it okay since he's still in ssg mode.
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>>154803155
Vegeta trained in the Room of Plot & Convenience to be able to sustain it in quick bursts
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>>154797688
Eating his race's tail will give you a ginormous power up according to DBO
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>>154803002
Why the fuck do you care about what other people think anyway?
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The manga is such an enigma compared to the anime it's so laughable. No one reviews it, rarely anyone gives it praise, and it's made by some shit fan fiction-tier artist/author.
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What did Toei mean by this?
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>>154803957
Dabbo
Jobbo
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>>154803957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hhoUe8kZWU

He means that anyone can put on a uniform, take orders from the corrupt and powerful, and claim to be fighting for "Law", "love of nation", and "Justice".
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>>154802479
It probably is, but that part goes by so quickly it's really doesn't matter
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>>154797548
Leave them to me.
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>>154797712
hmmm
you could actually be on to something
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>>154800880
Vados=Calvados, I believe.
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>>154796713
Man I forgot how fucking weird Blue Dragon era Toriyama is. None of the shit he drew for the kanzenban covers look right.
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My only issue with the manga so far is how toyo handled black anything else is miles bettet than the anime.
>Black never fighting goku was wasted.
>no smug black/zamasu combos
> most of black's fight where he dominates vegeta is rushed
Really frustrating because the trunks arc started really promising in the manga and I hoped we could get an even better black then the one in the anime.
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>>154802391
i have no idea how the DBZ TCG works. i've had this one broly card for ages
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>>154799922
what year is thi
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>>154797742
Hit has limits. Goku does not.

As Goku reveals, once Hit runs out of gimmicks he's just a really strong fighter that will likely lose to perfected kaioken blue.
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Holy fuck why does inking and linearting take so fucking long? I have to be doing something wrong here.
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>>154797936
They give asspulls to retards like bergamo , made Goku transform IN SSJB KK , i mean wtf , unless Goku has a new transformatioj , showing yourself like that .. Beerus should kick his ass to put him in place
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>>154805511
I watched a couple guys play and never understood what was going on.
It looked like the objective was to mill your opponent.
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>>154805714
There's a reason the person who draws is not the person who inks
It takes a long time.
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>>154803773
>Toeishills are now outright lying.
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>>154798428
But didn't the manga's U6 tourney arc state that Blue isn't a transformation that you can just flip on and off due to the immense amount of ki it takes just to get into it?
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>>154806610
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>>154806566
It's because of the amount of ki/energy it uses
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>>154806610
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So Whis is going to fuck up time again and make Bra a bit old in an hour so she is older than Pan and make it easier for Bulma to take care of and then Vegeta can go to the tournament right?
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>>154806566
The same thing with super saiyan in Cell Saga before they went into the Time Room.

Vegeta spent a day in the Time Room before the rematch, might as well train in order to get accostumed to SSB as they did with normal SS.
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>>154807375
Bulma will simply tell Vegeta to go fight.
I mean, if he doesn't fight Bulma and Bra will die.
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>>154798121
>>154798024
geekdoom proved you toyofags already wrong

1. He was born in Age 766.
2. He told Goku he was 17 when he visited the first time.
3. When he saw Cell's time machine, he observed that Cell had come from Age 788.
4. He said that was 3 years later than the time he departed.
5. All this fits with him waiting just long enough to recharge the time machine (8 months). It can't have been 3 years." Now pretty please, accept that this is a plot hole and let it go. Thanks.
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>>154807375

We already know she's born next episode, the only thing the remains to be seen is what else that's interesting/entertaining happens as well.
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Isn't Vegeta kind of stronger than Goku now in the manga?
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>>154807498
What kind of father would he be if he didn't protect his only daughter?
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>>154807375
Why would they even need to go through all that trouble? Bulma didn't have Vegeta around when she had Trunks and she managed. It was never stated that Bra was older than Pan so there's no need to come up with a convoluted plot to make her older.
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>>154807921
>no panty shot
I thought this was Japan, what the hell?
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>>154796684
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>>154808039
Yeah this basically confirms what I thought, SSJG looks better on Goku, SSJB looks better on Vegeta
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>>154808039
Why does he have SSJ hair?
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>>154808126
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When will Piccolo get this form?
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>>154808258
That doesn't answer anything
Goku has his base form hair in SSG. Why does Vegeta have SSJ hair?
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>>154808281
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>>154808281
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>>154808295
So you have no answer. Stop wasting my time then
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>>154808320
You're already wasting time by being on /a/, anon.
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>>154808320
Are you baiting, retarded or super drunk/high?
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He has SSJ hair because Toyo is a fucking hack.
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>>154808383
Still no answer.
This is his base form hair. In SSG he has his SSJ hair. He's supposed to have his base form hair in SSG.
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Recessive allele for the SSG Hairline gives it a different phenotypical expression in the ones carrying the gene.
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>>154808370
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>>154808438
Retarded it is then
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>>154808438
Whining like a cunt will only get you so far.

Look it up yourself if you're so determined.
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>>154808526
>>154808535
>I have no answer, I'd better insult him then!

Wut? Who's whining? I asked a question and you can't answer and reacted with dumb gifs, wasting everyone's time.
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Can anyone beat this team!?

HUH!?
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>>154808554
His hair always looks like that you fucking autist, it's just a stylistic choice that some manga artists do where they won't draw individual locks for characters with dark hair and just color the whole space black, since his hair is brighter while transformed, then he does show his individual locks of hair, there you happy now retard?
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>>154808666
>His hair always looks like that you fucking autist
No it doesn't.
It's also amazing at you chimping out over a simple question, does your life suck that much?
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>>154800105
that's palm-tree kai, anon
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>>154808699
no it's kiwi ice cream kai
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>>154808745

In all fairness Kiwi ice cream does sound quite delicious.
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>>154798152
Yes he could have but a lot of people forget that just because a fictional character could have done something doesn't necessarily make it realistic for them to have actually done it. Think about it. How many times have you or people you known done something stupid because you or they didn't think things through? People don't always make logical decisions. The same could be said for fictional characters in fictional environments.

I honestly think it's realistic to have situations where characters make mistakes or simply make dumb decisions.
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>>154808880

Keep in mind, that just because something dosen't make sense to you dosen't mean that it dosen't make sense to them..... or at least they think it dosen't make sense to them... or it does rather?
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>>154807528
Wrong Geekdumb used retconned daizenshuu dates that have no real baring on the manga.
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>>154809289

Will that effect the plot?
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>>154809303
No but after 10 years of people thinking Daizenshuu is canon, they rage when Toyo tweaks the history to preserve the consistency of the manga.
3 years of waiting works because when he identifies Cell's time machine is the only time a date is ever mentioned.
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What happened to that Anon that was supposed to suck all of our dicks if Gohan wasn't the hero of the Future Trunks arc?
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>>154796684
>red eyes and red hair
>japanese animation
>drawing an alien monkey God from an alternate universe
Why don't japanese people draw their own people just sayin
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>>154805511
>>154805810
Yep. It wasn't that complicated. Energy damage did direct milling and physical dmg was based on power level differences. Was a pretty cool game.
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>>154802549
Elementary school kids let alone middle school kids would probably fuck up most of the mechanics of magic.
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>>154799293
Pretty sure Goku just like being the bad guy, since that means that a lot of really powerful people will come fight him. Just like it was for Cell.
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>>154809660
They do, all the time, literally every SoL anime is in Japan with Japanese characters
Also basically every mecha anime
And Digimon
etc
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>Goku didn't deny that he was evil
Do you guys think Goku can still ride the flying nimbus?
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>>154802362
I could be gay for Gohan
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>>154797712
he's clearly starting to diverge
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>>154809814
Yes.

Whatever Goku's heart is, it is ALWAYS pure.
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>vegeta doesn't want to help save the universe because his wife is pregnant

Did I miss something? Wouldn't having family to protect be a motivator to help save the universe?
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>>154809814
Yes, Goku holds no malice or hatred in his heart, not usually anyway
That's why his fight with Freeza was so great
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Is Demon God the new Super Saiyan?
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>the art is getting better guys
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>>154809814
He rode it only a few episodes ago.

Goku isn't evil, he's a dumbass.
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This is now a PRIDE TROOPER THREAD
Post Toppo!
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>>154810559
>Whining against for QUALITY

And I like the Manga, you should either embrace QUALITY or just completely quit DBS.
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>>154809744
Yes the blonde haired and blue eyed kid is totally a Japanese student.

Just like no woman in Japan will ever marry a foreigner, but Japanese men are such massive playboys around the world with half Japanese kids constantly.
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I wanna pet Beerus
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Why do people believe she's part of the Pride Troopers again?
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>>154810634
>You haven't figured it out yet?
>I am the God who came all the way from universe 7 for the sole purpose of eliminating mortals. I am the villain you've heard of in legends, pure evil and awakened by battle. That's what I am. I am the Monkey God, Son Goku!
>Leave the Pride Troopers to me!
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>>154810559
>spends 530,000 millennia in MS paint to shitpost about the show being MS paint quality
hmm
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>>154810789
Super Saiyan Requiem, the most powerful SSJ form yet! This enemy powerlevel is OVER 90,000,000,000,000,000,000!
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>>154810816
Would you believe that you're the first to notice it's an edit since I started posting it on saturday evening?
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>>154810780
She's not, just a fighter from U6 fighting for U11.

Vados hinted at it remember, there is no rule that the fighters have to come from your Universe solely. Just that you have to have 10 fighters.
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>>154810874
I'm not surprised honestly
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>>154810729
>against for
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>ningen zero keikaku
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>>154810874
What did you change?
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>>154811175
I made his mouth even bigger.
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>>154796637
>tfw more of her when?
>that feel when more of her when?
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>>154796753
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>>154809511
prolly died sucking dick
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Is there a way to read the z manga without shitty fan translations or censorship?
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Goddamn this was such a good fight
I hope they can keep this up, my worry is that a battle royale means that all these characters with cool gimmicks (grappling, in Toppo's case) will job out in favor of generic beam spamming
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>>154810914

It's hinting at something for sure. I imagine it might be bringing someone in from other universes, maybe even reviving freeza again
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>>154808039
I love that Toyotaro has enough attention to detail to remember that SSJ God makes you slimmer, thus Vegeta's boots and gloves are suddenly too big for him.
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Whis' way of taking this whole situation still immensely bothers me
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>>154808039
>SPARKLING!
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>>154811731
SSG was supposed to be the ultimate most powerful transformation that can only be obtained once with SSB being what happens when a Saiyan who has achieved god ki tries to turn SSJ (meaning yellow hair is gone forever)
Both Toei and Toyotaro fucked this up, especially Toyotaro with having Goku and Vegeta randomly using the transformation like it was nothing
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Toyotaro also ruined SSB by basically making it SSJ3 2.0

aka transformation that uses a fuckton of stamina so it can't be used for too much, which goes completely against the concept of a form based on calmness like Toriyama envisioned

but hey, /ourguy/ amirite?
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>>154811806
>SSB
>transformation that uses a fuckton of stamina so it can't be used for too much
Sorry,am I missing something here? I thought that was just Kaio-SSB's problem,not regular SSB?
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>>154811939
in the anime yes
but in the manga, SSB is basically that which is why in the latest chapter Vegeta used the trick which contradicts chapter 13 where it was stated that you are not supposed to turn SSB that many times in a row
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>>154811512
>>154811927
>>154811939
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>>154811939
SSB drains energy, SSBKKx10 has an outright chance of killing you if you're not careful.
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I think universe 11 is a bit of a bait and switch

they spend dozens of episodes setting up the 6v7 rivalry, created Hit and gave him a full arc, gave 6+7 the best angels, and momentarily hinted that 6 was going to use an unconventional strategy

11 will lose fast, all of the stuff in the OP is just a trick, 6 is going to go full hot blooded rival
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>>154811980
My biggest fear is that the Pride Troopers and Vermoud get Frost'd

>WE WERE ONLY PRETENDING TO BE GOOD WE'RE ACTUALLY EVIL
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>>154796753
But which one is canon?
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>>154805714
digital inking takes way longer than technical in my experience
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>>154812041
They have their own canon.

Bardock in anime and in the manga aren't the same for example.

Toriyama just give some main outline, him having a preference to an another doesn't change the fact that he doesn't write entirely both version.

So, two canon.
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>>154801431
>what is training with gods and angels in the hyperbolic time chamber
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>>154811773
interesting. is this your own speculation, or is this in any way official?
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>>154812140
it's my own speculation and how I think these forms should have been handeled
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>Zen-oh = The new audience of the show/manga aka 7 yo kids
>Grand Priest = Toriyama self-insert
>Beerus = Old-fag audience
>Whis = Toyotaro self-insert
>Other universes = The other concorrrent anime/manga

You know this is true
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>>154805980
>>154812043

Ah thanks for letting me know

>>154812041

The only true canon is are the story notes and outline that Toriyama wrote on a napkin somewhere.

It goes something like this:

U6 Arc:
U7 wins , here are the U6 fighters. Goku goes first but comes back for the last fight against Hit.

Black arc:
Zamasu goes to Trunks' future timeline to kill all ningen because he am hate ningen.
Zamasu also take Goku's body and uses it to kill ningen, and there are two of them, one is Zamasu, one is EVIL GOKU.
Mai and Trunks am love story.
Goku learn mafuba but seal is left in present.
Zeno button is used and Goku causes 2 Zenos to exist at the same time which leads to the Universal survival arc.

That is the canon. That is all it is, anything else is official fanfiction by Toei and or Toyotaro.

As I said before, the only official canon, is a scribble made by Toriyama on a napkin somewhere.
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>>154812196
>You = cockgobbler

(You) know this is true
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>>154812101
>>154812213

So two canon? Okay, like with DB manga and DBZ.
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>>154812213

We shall call it the god given blessed napkin of canon. It is probably in the sewer system or at a landfill somewhere. But it is canon.
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>>154812213
that's not how general plot outlines work you fucking retard
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>>154812236
Yeah pretty much, Toriyama no longer really cares about consistency or power scaling. He gives Toyo and Toei an outline, probably lends his "gag power" to Toyotaro at times because {laughs) whilst Toei goes full steam ahead and do whatever they want.

It's literally a list of bullet points of "This needs to happen to lead onto the next part the story, make something up, go for it". Which is why both the anime and manga have inconsistencies or just power upgrades almost out of nowhere.
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>>154812213
what about tournament singer joke? The little things that toriyama made sure is both in the anime and manga
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>>154812310
it's almost like the anon has no idea what he's talking about
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>>154812310
Yeah if it's both in the manga and the anime, especially if it's a gag or a joke, you can probably make a safe bet Toriyama specifically wrote that out.
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>154812213
>>154812306
>>154812339
We don't know anything about this creative process, all we know is that there is a general plot outline written by Toriyama that then gets broken down in weekly episodes and monthly chapters.
That's it, anything else you've been babbling about is your own retarded speculation.
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>>154812382
Are you questioning the napkin of truth you foul heathen? Anon has shown us the light, we are now worshippers of the great napkin of truth.
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>>154812372
You don't remind very well. I am considering your termination
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>>154812213
>Toriyama is taking a very expensive shit
>his editors come in and beg him to continue Dragon Ball
>he opens the door and tells them to grab a pen
>he throws them a shit stained toilet paper with some bullet point notes
>editors give him 45 million USD cash
>Dragon Ball Super is born
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>>154812416
*flushing noises*

Did you rike it?

(laughs)
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>>154796678
You still have faith in their writing?
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>>154812416
>>154812432
>>154812512
can you fuck off already?
>>
We should all tell mangafags and animefags when they start arguing about canon or consistency that they're wrong by presenting them the "Napkin of truth" or the "Shitstained Asswipe of Canon".

Though just a metaphor for Toriyama sitting down in several board meetings and giving the plot outline - it's far more accurate then either side's arguments and conclusions.
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>>154812564
No, we've all reached an agreement here, can YOU fuck off already?
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>>154812512
Happily we can assume that his energy isn't canonically dark because meme magic since in the original manga there's not thousands colors for every aura and attack. His energy is probably yellow (like default ki in the manga) or bluish ala Zamasu if Kaioshins have a different color of energy.
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>>154812564

The asswipe of canon compels you, the asswipe of canon compels you, leave this place and never return you cancerous fuck.
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>>154812564
>>154812588
>>154812617
all three of you don't care what side
fall on a knife and die
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>>154812588
I would like to discuss Super, especially because the last episode was pretty fucking good
Can I do it on this board or do I have to go somewhere else?
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>Swole grey alien named Jiren the Grey
Bravo.
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>>154812662
You can discuss that here, in fact that kindof discussion is very VERY welcome. A lot of us here are fed up of the anime / manga loyalists flinging shit at each other over what is canon, what isn't, and which medium is worse / better.
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>>154812696
hey fuck you retard
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>>154812662
Please do, it'd be a nice change from the shitposting that perpetuates these threads,
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>>154812696
>>154812733
Alright so, can we talk about how enjoyable the fights have been in this arc so far?
I like how they are reintroducing gimmicks, I wonder what Jiren or Smugpup can do with their powers
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>>154811649
The Pride Troopers are being hyped up as a team, so I imagine they have some good team tactics. We already know Captain Ayy Lmao is the strongest, so I imagine their strategy would be something like this:

>Captain Ayy Lmao picks off the strongest one or two enemies of the team and keeps them occupied (if he can wreck their shit, that's just an added bonus) (so he's the striker of the team)
>The Beerus like guy (who is probably the weakest) might have some AoE spamming attacks he uses to keep multiple weak enemies occupied (so he's the beamspammer of the team)
>Toppo (already confirmed to be a grappler) then probably picks off targets one by one to grapple them into submission

That would be a cool tactic for 3-vs-many fights, but I don't think Toriyama will put this much thought into them. They'll most likely just job.
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>>154812766
You have to consider that U11 is also gonna have contestants that are not Pride Troopers
Unless it turns out there's ten of them
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>contestant who has the power to completely nullify any ki technique
>Saiyans can't even transform anymore
>Hit can't use the timeskip
>it's Roshi's time to shine
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>>154812813
>>154812813
>>154812813
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>>154812810
>Roshi's time to shine because people who can kill him with a dickslap can't shot blast or stop the time
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>>154812662
Why is Bismarck in DBS?
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>>154812758
>Alright so, can we talk about how enjoyable the fights have been in this arc so far?
I agree, they were fucking great and actually got me excited for Super again.

>Buu vs Basil
Probably the most 'basic' of the fights, but that's good to start things off with. Seeing Buu in action again was nice, though admittedly the fight was very one sided. Perhaps to show that Buu is still a high tier fighter that we shouldn't underestimate just because he hasn't had a lot of screen time maybe?

>Gohan vs Lavender
Great fight. We actually see Gohan not job for a change! He technically won despite a very crippling handicap, but I think this fight got the point across: Gohan has gotten stronger again, he's not the jobber he used to be but he still has a long way to go to reach his old level/peak skill. I hope the episodes between the preliminary matches and the actual tournament include some more training so we can see Gohan wreck shit in the tournament.

>Goku vs Bergamot
Probably the most underwhelming fight of this arc, but that's because the gap in power was so big. Bergamot does have a very interesting gimmick though and he'd probably have destroyed anyone from U7 who isn't Goku or Vegeta. That said, it does show how huge the gap between Goku and U9 is.

>Goku vs Toppo
Great fight, though I was actually rooting for Toppo in this one (and I doubt I was the only one). I was kind of hoping Toppo would wreck his shit and slap some humility into Goku, but it was nice to see them go toe-to-toe. Again, the fight got the point across: Toppo and Goku are roughly evenly matched (even Toppo himself stated he doesn't know who'd win if the fight continued) but Jiren is way stronger than he is. This is good, but it's also bad in a way: it makes me fear that Jiren and maybe Hit are the only ones who can even hope to challenge Goku and Vegeta.
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>>154812842
I think the moustache makes him look more like Clemenceau than Bismark.
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>>154812881
Goku vs Bergamo was a squash match to put Goku over as a heel
The real main event was Goku vs Toppo
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>>154812758

The upcoming Jiren fight looks to be pretty promising. Jiren is humanoid enough and despite being pretty friggin built, doesn't look any worse than say... Freeza at 100% and isn't a horrendous mass of inflated muscles like USSJ was.

The best fights out of Dragon Ball have always been between characters who are mostly in shape and humanoid with mostly human behaviour, barring the whole Saiyan fight boner thing.

Toppo is a bit too bulky to be considered anything but a very powerful character that will be sidelined, same with Tumblr-chan. I know I may be fatshaming a little but it just feels more aesthetic that the fighters aren't some gimmicky skinny slightly mishapen individual or oversized or ridiculously round.

It's why I have my hopes up for Smugpup. As long as he doesn't have the silly backwards digitigrade feet tat the U9 trio have, or as long as it's well hidden in his boots, then we should expect a decent fight out of him... especially if he's wearing pants.

As for abilities? I'd like to see more silliness like many of Gotenks' attacks from the Buu saga, like the Galactic Donut, or the Kamikaze ghosts, or hell even Vegeta's Ki ring binds that he used against Goku. They should just throw a load of those at us instead of ki blast spamming and punchthrowing that we've been getting lately.

I also mentioned in an earlier thread that it'd be totally fucking awesome because if's a team battle royale, that we'd get combination attacks like what you get in Chrono Trigger that are used tactically. I mean 17 and 18 already have their Accel Dance / Sadistic Dance and I hope to see more.

The one thing I really really want is for the combatants from the other universes to be relatable and not chucklefuck kekfests like the U9 furry trio. I want to like the upcoming cast that isn't just U7, I really do.
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>>154811955
>where it was stated that you are not supposed to turn SSB that many times in a row

It's probably not like dipping in and out so much as switching from one to the other. It's not like he's going SSB, reverting to base and then powering back up again.

They're both using god ki so it shouldn't make a difference right? Lets be real here. DB stopped making sense a long long time ago.
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17 confirmed to return on episode 86, at this rage the tournament wont start until around May desu.
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Okay guys so we could all agree that LSS is the best transformation in all of DB
>inb4 SS1,2, or 3
SS is just a discount version of LSS
>Inb4 SSB or Super Saiyan god
just a recolor of SS
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Move here when this thread dies >>154812813
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>>154808686

Super Saiyan God makes their hair stand up, just very slightly. When goku transforms his hair straightens out and he even loses his split ends. Since Vegeta's hair is already spiky it gets even sharper when he transforms to SSG.
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>>154809511
Got raped by everyone and became a lurker. He still shows up sometimes though.
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>>154808686
>No it doesn't.
Literally no one on Earth is as retarded as (You), how it feels?
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>>154812810
>>Saiyans can't even transform anymore
>>Hit can't use the timeskip
sauce
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What happens if both Zenos use the Portara rings?

Is it like dividing through 0?
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Shin is for taking it up the ass
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>>154811806
>aka transformation that uses a fuckton of stamina so it can't be used for too much
It uses stamina in the anime too, Goku says it to Hit.
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>>154810094
He's tired of jobbing. SSBKK made him give up
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>>154818240
Agreed
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>a newer thread hit the bump limit first

high jej
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kill this thread
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>>154823570
>shounenshit eaters in charge of not being retarded cancer posters
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You are a worthless thread
DIE DIE DIE
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>>154823695
That's a pretty cool pic anon.
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You have my permission to die
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>>154796803
we really need to purge the manga fags and give them their own padded cell containment board where they can stay deluded and leave us alone.
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