Extra deck scum in suicide watch edition
Have they crossed the line?
>Can't summon more than 1 Hero fusion, can't mask change it to something else either
>Can't special summon another tuner to synchro summon a tuner synchro to accel synchro into something bigger
>Can't just lose your pendulum cards to the extra deck and bring them all back later for a combo, lose 2 of your spell/trap zones as well.
Why is Yuma on the ground, he never uses more than 1 xyz monster at a time, everybody else,tho, they got fucked, hard
Will Konami ever make an LL Link monster?
Please make it a reality Konami.
so when does the new format start?
and what % of people do you expect will reject it and continue playing as is?
Today is an interesting day to be an anime only faggot.
Looks like they're dark blue.
You summon them to the new 'extra monster zone' or a link monster zone by sending a number of monsters equal to it's link number listed on the card to the grave.
You can only summon extra deck monsters to the extra monster zone or a zone indicated by an arrow on a link monster.
In all the excitement over the new rules, nobody noticed that for the first time ever, we are still getting cards of a previous series in a set of a new series. We're getting DDDs in COTD, the first VRAINS set. This means we might get more Arc-V cards in this set and others going forward.
Suck Yuto's dick.
Also, links seem splashable as fuck as of now. A deck that can summon 5 birds in one turn is a deck that can summon links for its plays
>alot of XYZ decks are practically untouched since they just XYZ once then drop a fuck ton of backrow.
>Synchro is kill
>certain fusion decks are kill
>pendulum is kill.
I never thought i'd ever say this but i might quit YGO now.
>We're getting DDDs in COTD, the first VRAINS set.
As interesting as that is. How will DDDs fair in the new Link era?
If anything they'll just have Reiji show in the new show and be totally raped by Link monsters to shill the new cards.
But who knows. Maybe they can make DDDs good again by printing DDD Link monsters. But I kind of doubt it.
>Most players don't realize they can get rid of their ED monsters on the field to summon a link and open space for more summons.
Seriously, guys? It isn't difficult to think. Like, I make Castel, shuffle something and use Castel and something else for a link and get to summon another ED thingy
Because you can only summon monsters from the extra deck to the single extra monster zone or to a zone that an arrow on a link monster points too. You can still xyz, synchro, fusion, but there's less space.
In DDD's case, if Links get ED space, they are mostly fine, though slowed a bit like all other decks.
ED monsters revived from the grave can be put in any zone and should they already have an ED monster on the field, they can use it to summon a link and get space for their plays
There's only 1 extra deck monster slot. Meaning you can only have 1 extra deck monster out at a time. This kills fusion. synchro and xyz heavy decks. Pendulum is kill in a different way, their pendulum zones are now spell/trap zones when not in use, but those zones cannot be used to play spells and traps, only pendulum and they count towards the max 5 backrow total meaning to pendulum decks, that means they only have 3 spell and trap zones to play spell and trap cards so no more bubble barrier, pengraph cards and echo whatever plays together or any DDD Contracts
The Newly Created Extra Monster Zone
>You can only use one of them!<
When the Duel begins, neither Extra Monster Zone is considered to belong to a specific player. When a player Special Summons a monster to one of them, that Zone then becomes treated as part of that player’s field, and the other then becomes treated as the other player’s field. The tactics of a Duel will change drastically depending on who can grab an Extra Monster Zone first! An Extra Deck Monster can only be Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone! But if you Summon a Link Monster to one of the Extra Monster Zone first, you can utilize it to its max potential!
*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!
– What has been the [Monster Zone] up till now is now the [Main Monster Zone]
– The [Pendulum Zone] is on the left and right of the [Spell & Trap Zone]. You can use it as a normal [Spell & Trap Zone], but when you place Pendulum cards there, it is treated as the [Pendulum Zone]
We dont know
Monster Zones are called Main Deck monster Zones. You also have 1 additional Extra Deck monster Zone. You can only Summon ED monsters to that 1 Zone. If you Summon a Link monster to that Zone, you can also use the Main Deck Zones the arrows point to as ED Zones.
Basically, play Link monsters, or you are limited to 1 ED monster only.
>Also, links seem splashable as fuck as of now. A deck that can summon 5 birds in one turn is a deck that can summon links for its plays
Yeah. I am really looking forward to playing LLs in the new era. I am pretty excited.
They were already surprisingly good. And this should be a huge boost in their favour. But we'll see.
Monster summoned from the Extra Deck(aka Fusion, Synchro, Xyz and the new Link) must be placed on the Extra Monster Zone OR the Main Monster Zone indicated by the Link monsters.
In short, it you summoned a Fusion/Synchro/Xyz first, it will be placed in the Extra Monster Zone. However, since you can only have one EMZ, you can't spam out any more F/S/X unless you get a Link out first or displace the properly summoned F/S/X from the field.
The Zones Pointed at by Link Markers Can be Used to Bring Out Extra Deck Monsters
Although Extra Deck Monsters can only be Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone Normally, if you have a Link Monster in the Extra Monster Zone, the Zones pointed at by their Link Markers can be used to Summon Extra Deck Monsters! So if you get out a Link Summon quickly, you can bring out Fusion, Synchro, and Xyz Monsters in succession. Of course, you can Summon another Link Monster in one of these Zones, so if you play your cards right, you can fill your entire Main Monster Zone with Extra Deck Monsters! The new metagame will require careful consideration of where to place monsters!
Super Quick Q&A for the New Rules!
Q: If Special Summoned an Extra Deck Monster normally, and it goes to the Graveyard, and I want to Special Summon it with “Monster Reborn”, which Zone does it go to?
A: It goes into the Main Monster Zone, not the Extra Monster Zone.
Q: Can you use “Book of Moon” on Link Monsters?
A: Link Monsters cannot be face-down, so you cannot target them with “Book of Moon”.
Q: If your opponent’s only monster is in their Extra Monster Zone, can you attack them directly?
A: If there’s a monster in the Extra Monster Zone, unless some kind of effect is in play, you would have to attack that monster first.
Q: Can you destroy 2 Set Spell & Trap Cards in your Left Most and Right Most Spell & Trap Zones with “Wavering Eyes”?
A: The Left Most and Right Most Spell & Trap Zones are regular Spell & Trap Zones, and do not become Pendulum Zones unless you activate a Pendulum Card in them, or if a Pendulum Card is placed in them by a card effect. A Set Spell & Trap Card in either of those Zones cannot be destroyed by “Wavering Eyes”.
>Link Monsters are new ED monsters
>New Extra Monster Zone exclusive to ED Monsters
>Can only control 1 Extra Monster Zone
>Only 1 ED Monster can be summoned to that zone
>Link Monsters have Link Markers
>Depending on which Monster Zone Slot the Link Markers point to, you are allowed to summon more ED Monsters to that slot (XYZ, Fusion, and Synchro)
>Link Monsters don't have levels or DEF and can't be switched to Defense Position
>Pendulum Zones are now the 1st and 5 slot of the S/T zone
Change 1: The Pendulum zone and Magic/Trap Zone have been collapsed together so that you have 3 purely Magic/Trap zones and 2 other zones that act either as Magic/Trap or Pendulum zones depending on what you put in it. In other words, if you are using two Pendulum monsters as scales, you now only have 3 open spaces for other magic and trap cards. Likewise, if you are filling all 5 spaces with magic and trap cards, you have no space to place any Pendulum monsters as scales.
Change 2: Under normal conditions, extra deck can no longer be summon to the traditional monster field (Now called the "Main Monster Zone" from the Extra deck). They can normally only be summoned to the newly created "Extra Zone" that is located in the center of the field between the players. Each player can only use 1 Extra Zone. The only way to have more than 1 Extra Deck monster on your side of the field is to use one of the newly created Extra Deck Monsters called "Link Monsters".
Instead of this "extra deck zone", why not just cycle out certain mechanics in certain years?
Oh sweet mother of Jesus I can play Frog Monarchs again, I need nothing more than a Toadally Awesome up there in the Extra Zone
And I can play Gladiator Beasts again fucking up links with Gyzarus, the only Extra Deck monster you need
And maybe even old school Light Beat E-HEROes now that never variants can't be played
MY EXCITEMENT IS OVERFLOWING
Yeah, I think they could've handled this better, limiting extra deck cards 1 kills 90% of the decks in YGO
They wanted to get rid of those stupid turn 1 locks but why not just Change the cards that enabled those locks/stop printing them?
Pendulum monsters face up in the extra deck are treated as extra deck monsters so when you call a pendulum monster from the extra deck it goes in your extra deck monster slot.
They didn't kill it, they just made it so that if you want your spam, you gotta use a link monster, it's basically black mailing people with older extra deck heavy decks to buy their new shit or else they can't play.
Oh, god, hopefully soon, same with DDD getting a link monster
Fuck Konami. They killed my favorite fun-archetype.
They better make a RR Link monster as well.
Link Monsters have no level nor rank. Furthermore, where their defense stat would normally be is instead the text LINK-X, where X is a number that varies depending on the monster. This is the Link Monster's link number. Link Monsters to not have a defense stat. They can NEVER be in defense position under any circumstances.
Step 1: To summon a Link Monster, first, look at it's link number.
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3
Step 2: Send from your side of the field a number of monsters equal to the Link Number of the Link Monster you want to summon (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3, so you must send 3 monsters to the graveyard. Specifically in Decode Talker's case, these all must be effect monsters.
IMPORTANT STEP 2 NOTE: If one of the monsters you send to the graveryard for a Link Summon is a Link Monster, you can treat that monster as X number of monsters for the summon, where X is it's Link Number. (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. You send two monsters to the graveyard and summon a Link-2 monster. Now, instead of sending 3 monsters to the graveyard to summon a Link-3 monster, you can instead just send the Link-2 monster + one other monster. Specifically in the case of Decode Talker, these all must be effect monsters, and you must use at least two monsters, so you can't just use 1 other Link-3 monster.
Step 3: Once the Link Monster is summoned, look at the card picture frame. You will see 8 arrows, some number of which are lit up red (the number lit up red is equal to the monster's Link number). Field zones that are in contact with the red link marker arrows are said to be "linked" with that Link Monster. Monster Zones that are linked with a Link Monster become additional Zones that you are allowed to Extra Deck summon in.
>Synchro decks are kill
>D/D/D is kill
>Fluffals is kill
>Zoodiacs are kill but every other XYZ deck is unphased since 90% of XYZ decks only XYZ once or twice.
>Stunshit is 100% uneffected.
Guess it's time to play that 60 card Skull king turbo.
You do if you want to have more than 1 on the field at a time, so Yuya, Yusei and Judai's decks all need link monsters in them now, Yuma is completely unaffected by this. Yugi only stands to benefit from it as does Yusaku
D/D/D Gust Emperor Executive Alexander
Level 10 WIND FIend-Type Synchro Effect Monster
Synchro Materials: 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters
You can only use this card name’s (2) effect once per turn.
(1) If there are 3 or more “D/D/D” monsters on the field, this card gains 3000 ATK.
(2) If a “D/D” monster other than this card is Normal or Special Summoned while this card is face-up: You can target 1 “D/D” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
Honestly its better to focus on getting out one powerful Extra Deck monster than trying to set up the Link to summon a lot of Extra Deck monsters.You have to invest in protecting the Link monster in order to summon a bunch of other stuff and if the Link monster goes your back to one Extra Deck monster anyways.
Which is better having one ED monster your opponent will have to dedicate resources to destroy or having a Link Monster which can be easily destroyed to summon a bunch of other ED monsters?
Oh boy, here we go:
Summon some synchro tuner monster that summons things from the deck, like Doppel Warrior and synchro with it.
Doppel summons two tokens.
Use the synchro and a token to summon a Link.
Use said link to summon a lvl1 normal monster from the deck.
Synchro Formula synchron.
Use formula and Link to summon Decode Talker.
Now I have 2 zones free.
>The show's theme is "Take a step forward, and try!", on the premise that kids should start to try things out instead of just giving up at the first try due to being overwhelmed by information
Yes, unless you have a link monster out, Decode Talker gives you 3 extra deck slots out of the 4 you have left after summoning decode talker. Basically, Decode Talker is now a staple for every extra deck heavy deck just like Utopia is and what Stardust Dragon used to be.
Sure. But you can use Link Monsters to summon other Link Monsters at the very least. So you can still summon a whole bunch of them even if you might not end with all that many of them.
But we're almost guaranteed to get Link Monsters and monsters who special summon monsters. Enabling you to actually summon a ton of them in succession.
DDD uses Swirli and Necro to summon Darc.
Normal Night Howl and Revive Swirli
Darc and Swirli Link.
Use Link and Night Howl to summon Decode Talker.
Use Gate to search Ragnarok and use Swirli in grave to summon it and revive Darc wherever I want, since revived ED monsters can be anywhere I want.
Still have two free spaces by Decode Talker, Necro slime and Lamia in grave while having Darc and Ragnarok in field.
DDDs are dead, they said
I know that the new rules are changing just about everything.
That said. This DDD is amazing.
I can only imagine what DDDs would have been able to achieve with these new cards yet with the old rules.
PART 3 (Random notes/comments):
・A Extra deck Monster that is properly summoned and then goes to the graveyard CAN BE REVIVED INTO ANY MAIN MONSTER ZONE EVEN IF NOT LINKED.
・If you have a Link Monster in the Extra Zone, and thus now have a Main Monster Zone linked to it where you can now Extra Deck summon, you could summon another Link Monster to the Main Monster Zone to extend the number of monster zones that are linked (i.e. if I summon a Link Monster to my Main Monster Zone that has left or right pointing red link markers, those adjecent zones become linked to that Link Monster and thus I can summon a extra deck monster there, even though the it isn't linked to the Link Monster in the Extra Zone). That is how you could still possibly will the field with Extra Deck monsters even though a Link Monster could have at most 3 bottom links (which would make you think you can only have 3 Main Monster Zone Extra Deck monsters since the Link Monster in the Extra Zone could at most connect to 3 of your Main Monster Zones).
Then you're a fool. If you were here since Arc-Otome you'd despise this show for what it's become
Lamia sends Gate to grave to revive and tune with Darc for Siegfried. Then banish Necro with Darc to summon High Ghenghis.
As bonus, can use High Ghenghis and Ragnarok for rank 8 like Titanic Galaxy
They went as far as to give my favourite character another duel against all logic and odds, so I'm standing by Arc-V's side until the bitter end.
you don't have to place the kaiju on the same zone as the tributed monster
your ED monster in the ED monster zone will be safe from kaijus though, if every monster zone is occupied
I never said that they were dead. Only that the new rules changes everything.
I won't trust any assessments of their ability at their time. Though I do believe they still have promise.
Especially with their strong recursion abilities.
But my point is basically that you can't really judge them on the old/current standards any more. The game will be different, with or without DDDs.
No they stay there until they die in which case those zones can't be used anymore for new extra deck monsters. BUT if you revive those destroyed monsters you can place them in the normal zone.
>GX was worse than DM
>5D's was worse than GX
>Zexal was worse than 5D's
>ARC-V is worse than Zexal
Just admit the series is completely fucking garbage now and needs to go back to its roots.
>Field zones that are in contact with the red link marker arrows are said to be "linked" with that Link Monster
So you can summon a Extra Deck monster in your enemy's field too?
That's what VRAINS is.
The new Link mechanic makes it incredibly harder to use any of the older summoning methods, Yugi and Kaiba's new decks are incredibly viable now.
VR coming right after DSoD should also make it obvious. There's the fact we're getting a 16 year old protagonist again.
Then there's the monsters themselves, we have a new Gaia and Decode Talker looks like a DM/Neos-esque ace monster.
You know, these new rules means that either Yusaku is going to be facing other duelists who use the other summoning methods or Vrains is going to be like Zexal and be very Link heavy with maybe a reference to other methods. I don't expect to see a synchronist or a pendulum ist in the show compared to a funionist or xyzist
5DS was better than GX
Zexal will probably be better than Arc V once everything is done. I never liked Zexal but the series improved as it progressed and the writers knew what they were doing in the last arc.
I'm not even sure what the writers for Arc V are aiming for anymore.
No. The thing I am not clear on though is if THE ENEMY can now summon an Extra Deck monster in that zone of his that your Link Monster is linked to.
What I do know is that if he has a monster in a zone that your Link Monster is connected to, your Link Monster can derive benefits from that. Decode Talker for example, having a top-facing link marker, would gain 500 more ATK from it's effect if there is an opponent's monster right in front of it.
No, obviously not. What it means is you're giving them the ability to summon an ED monster for free. But, that monster is now linked to yours. No monster that lets you take advantage of being linked to your opponents' monster exists currently, unfortunately. One day though, I'm sure we will. Imagine linking something to the Quasar someone just put all their effort and taking control of it or negating its effects or something like that.
>No monster that lets you take advantage of being linked to your opponents' monster exists currently, unfortunately.
Decode Talker gains 500 more ATK if it is linked to an monster in front of it, even if it is the enemy's.
>No monster that lets you take advantage of being linked to your opponents' monster exists currently, unfortunately.
Anon, Decode Talker?
>(1) This card gains 500 ATK for each monster Linked to it.
Does it matter? Just get out a strong Xyz out turn 1 and make it so that you destroy every Link monster they summon, then just Rank it up.
Once it's destroyed, you can bring it back from the grave and play it in the Main Monster Zone now, so you can summon a completely different monster in the Extra Monster Zone, whether it's a Link or another Xyz.
Utopia was a starter deck card at first remember? Revise Dragon was the cover. If anything the cover card is going to be the rival's card, not exactly their ace since Shark lost that dragon after it's first use and it never appeared again.
No, you dumbass, it was always for children. They just realized children couldn't give a shit about older protagonists anymore.
Back in the day, Dragon Ball was an anime for children. Now? Yokai Watch is. They're just following trends.
It's made for teenage chuuni boys, not really little kids. Shit for little kids is stuff like Yokai Watch.
A little maturity is not impossible at all given the tone of most of DM, Season 4 GX and Signers 5D's.
And what if I told you that the whole world in the setting, since its inception, revolved around games, one way or another, and that the whole world in the setting, was in fact created by a card?
It's like saying you can't take crime in Pokemon seriously because Officer Jenny uses Pokemon, in a Pokemon world and setting. Your way of thinking is retarded.
>implying they haven't done this before
His true ace is going to be the COTD cover card
>Decode Talker is a secondary ace while the actual ace is a dragon
Why didn't I foresee this?!
>Retailers dropping a dynamic that is pretty much fixing everything that is wrong with the current game, also giving the chance for new players to get into the game.
Here is a (you) m8
So if you have a Link Monster in the Main Monster Zone, it can also be linked to your S/T Zones, right? That could allow for some interesting effects. Might also be part of the reason why they're moving the Pendulum Zones, because they wouldn't be linkable otherwise.
I know all summoning methods and this Links thing has got me really excited, because the game has completeñy changed. It's barely still Yugioh anymore and i love it. I would even start buying the cards but that would be stupid for someone who it's 22 years old and doesn't have friends who like the game. I'll stick to the Anime and Vidya
So with all these new rules won't the game become hard to translate to Vidya? The field is bigger and theres too much shit. Anyway i can't wait for Duel Links 2 on Mobile
2 or more Effect Monsters
This card gains 500 ATK for each monster in its Linked Zone. During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a card or effect that targets a card(s) you control: You can Tribute 1 of your monsters in this card's Linked Zone; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card.
Please guys tell me my Masked Hero/Elemental Hero/Vision Hero combination deck is still fine. I just got back into the game a few months ago
Goddammit, anon. You just need to summon three monsters to use Decode Talker then do whatever you want. Everything got delayed but even D/D/Dfags found a way to survive already
You can only have one fusion out on the field unless you have Link monsters but some of the combos are still viable. Absolute Zero into Acid still works because you have to send Absolute Zero to the graveyard.
Here's the questions I have:
1) Can you tune a synchro for a synchro?
2) Do pendulum monsters pendulum summmoned from the extra deck go into the extra deck zone?
3) Can I soul charge 2 Monsters that were summoned from the extra deck and sent to the grave?
>1) Can you tune a synchro for a synchro?
>2) Do pendulum monsters pendulum summmoned from the extra deck go into the extra deck zone?
Still waiting the rules to clarify
>3) Can I soul charge 2 Monsters that were summoned from the extra deck and sent to the grave?
Yes. Revived monsters can be placed in any monster zone
Over here: >>153573421
But if they're actually dropping it because they don't like the new rules released only hours ago, I have some serious questions about the way the nips run their businesses. More likely that there's some change from Konami's side that they need to adapt to. And at least one of those tweets seems to be implying that it's only temporary as well.
I think you can tune a synchro for a synchro. The synchro monster you use for tuning gets sent from the extra monster zone to the graveyard which leaves the EMZ open for whatever you are summoning,
>So if you have a Link Monster in the Main Monster Zone, it can also be linked to your S/T Zones, right?
Yes, but so far, I think all Link Monsters have effects specifically dependent on having monsters in the linked zones. And I assume having a Pendulum acting as a scale would not count for those.
YES BLUE CARDS
AND THEY HAVE MADE RITUALS GRWAT AGAIN BY FUCKING OVER EXTRA DECK SCUM!!!
BOY, WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE LADS!!! THIS TIMELINE IS BEST TIMELINE!!!
>go to Yugioh general on /vg/
>everyone is saying Link will ruin the game
Nips are autistic as fuck, they are most likely mad because their usual customer's decks will become useless with the new game mechanic. But to be honest this is the best fix in the game we have had in a really long time.
So gave it a bit more thought and if your link summon gets negated you lose access to the extradeck and the resources used for the link summon so you have to use more resources to just get access tot he extradeck this is very interesting.
>You can now only use 1 Extra Deck Monster at a time unless your opponent uses up the New Monster Zone.
>Ritual Monsters aren't from Extra Deck so they can now swarm the field while Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, even Pendulum are extremely fucked
>Pendulum can now best support Rituals to swarm the field
Are you ready to bow down to your Ritual overlords yet, /a/?
no it's not because Link monsters take too much resources. A ton of Xyz, Synchro, Pendulum and Fusion archetypes are now completly useless because of that. Even funny petdecks died.
Honestly its better to get out a powerful Synchro,Fusion or XYZ monster,upgrade it and defend it to waste than to waste resources on Link Summon.If the Link summon gets countered you have to set up everything again and while you set it back up your opponent is doing whatever they want.
Well from the what i can see from the first batch of cards you can summon a good amount of monsters from the deck pretty fast so that should give you a clue on future card design.
>(1) This card gains 500 ATK for each monster Linked to it.
Literally Junk Warrior.
Can't fucking wait.
Everyone might as well go on and choose their Deck Masters now because that's what the game is going to turn into, especially since they can now sit on a 6th exclusivemonster slot
Fuck,fuck,fuck,fuck,fuck, FUCK. six monsters with one being exclusively towards the extra deck? That's so goddamn dumb! Not only that, It's killed my dream of having all six attribute heroes out at once because of that retarded ass restriction
Eh, I dunno, nips seems to be genuinely pissed.
These changes, unlike Pendulums, actually rendered unusable a lot of decks.
>Use 2 of them for Missus Radiant, unlocking 2 EM Zones
>Use 2 Tokens to Summon 2 Link Spiders on those Zones
>Use 2 Link Spiders to Summon Honeybot
>You now have 2 Link monsters and 3 EM Zones
Why is this allowed?
Unless the clarification that normal monsters now have [Normal] on them means that tokens are now "non-effect monsters" then they are normal monsters.
A step backwards or a link to the past?
Nah. You still have to fulfill the material requirement. Decode Talker needs 2 or more effect monsters. So 1 Link 3 effect monster wouldn't work. That's why 1 Link 2 effect monster and 1 effect monster works.
I'm an Elemental Hero user who only has fusions in my extra, how is this a good thing? I'm having my extra deck held hostage unless I buy a blue card. This isn't like Xyz where I wasn't forced to use them.
There's no clarification if its summoning from the extra deck that has to be in the extra deck zone or if its the specific type of summon.
As in, we don't know if summoning a Synchro from the extra by ignoring its summoning conditions would need it to be in the EMZ, since its not a synchro summon. Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link monsters summoned from the grave don't need to be put in the EMZ but didn't say whether that was because they weren't summoned from extra deck or because they weren't Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link summoned.
Until that's cleared up Pendulum stays a mystery.
If your opponent uses Link monsters, they can potentially unlock the Zones for you, because Decode Talker links to an opponent's Zone, and there will be more like him.
Also, I am willing to bet Mask Change will be excluded from these limitations, since it's not a proper Fusion Summon.
He's not that bad. Zarc's reasoning makes a lot of sense when you consider that it's also meta commentary. He was basically conditioned by the public to be destructive and evil, like how protags turning evil is one of the most popular things about Yugioh.
That, and Duel Spirits wanting revenge and him gaining ultimate power and blah blah blah.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A DOWNLOAD LINK FOR THE FULL VERSION DASHING PENDULUM
Guys, quick question.
Will there still be action cards?
What really sucks is that you know that something like this was the only way they could counter the "If you're not winning the duel in the first time, you're out" and 5 minute max duels thing.
In order to change the meta, they had to destroy it
>Just like 5D's people will abandon VRAINS for the new cards and format.
I seriously just got back into it, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>Pendulum Zones are now part of the S+T Zones
This is good. Means Pendulum Decks won't be able to run full backrow and will actually have to think about shit. It would really only hurt specific decks like Normal Pendulum or Zefras, or if, say, the En cards were printed, because then they couldn't be played in a Pendulum deck.
>Can only summon 1 ED monster at a time without using Links.
Get fucked, ED Masturbation decks. Finally I can tell the shitty Quasar Masturbatory players to fuck off and get a real strategy that doesn't fall apart easily because "muh 4 attacks". It'll also curb the R4NK toolbox a bit, since you can only have one tool out at a time unless you Link or your opponent is nice enough to give you an EM Zone.
So far, this seems like it'll be turbulent as shit in the beginning, but ultimately it'll improve the health of the game. Anybody saying they're gonna "jump ship" over this without thinking it through are people I don't want playing YGO anyway.
The field is actually smaller that it was during Arc-V since the Pendulum Zones are removed.
Only difference is that the 2 player's halves will be further apart with 2 new zones between them.
Yeah this is really my only concern. I have a feeling that unless KoJ MAKES them work on ED/Link decks, KoA will just make more Main-Deck stuff like Kozmemes and use that as their "in" to the meta.
>Hey look guys, you can just play us and ignore all of those silly Japanese mechanics!
Too bad it was lame, badly executed, and didn't work. Especially the "it's everyone's fault" when he had a choice in the matter. Judai was mindbroken, Yusei never did it they had a cosplayer, and Dark Zexal was Yuma's bad choices causing Astral to lose his cool during the fusion.
Zarc had a choice in the matter to become Satan, which is why the meta commentary is bullshit.
The four Dragons were also Zarc's enablers.
The problem with Zarc is we only really laerned about his history second hand through Leo. We never got him to to explain his motives and such like previous villains.
Another reason why Yuya vs Zarc not happening is bad.
Fuck, didn't see that connection
Potential Junk Warrior upgrade
It was so terribly explained that whatever backstory they gave him felt like filler. If Yuya lived his memories for at least 1 episode every arc it would have been passable. From Leo I never got the feeling that Zarc had a reason to do anything he did. Even if they did say that the dragons influenced him, you don't see that at all and really know to remember unless you memorize Leo's exposition.
Then they're retarded. You have to do that anyway. Virtually all Konami-official mats have the zones on them, and legally you're only allowed to use Konami-official sleeves and mats in sanctioned play. The only reason to drop it over THAT of all things is because you were too stupid to actually read your rules or you willfully ignored them.
I personally am glad that I can finally tell my opponent they HAVE to follow the Konami Official mat format, because I'm fucking sick of stupid tourneyfags having their decks sideways and the zones in weird places.
link was a mistake...
adios infinity + utopia lightning
Or he could have done like Jack and just duel the way he wants no matter how the crowd acts. When you're king the plebs can misunderstand you all they want.
Just means they're shit!
>Virtually all Konami-official mats have the zones on them
Look at any YCS mat and point out the zones.
Look at literally any mat given out at official big events, both TCG and OCG, and show me the zones.
I've been wanting Yugioh to become much slower since I converted to Hearthstoneology. I enjoy making a few small decisions every turn over needing to make 15 card combos everty turn.
1st move: infinity and/or utopia
1st move: link
2nd move: infinity and/or utopia
They went full retard with that design.
and just like Junk Warrior, Yusaku will drop it in favor of a better Ace. Just you watch, I can see it now, he finds one out of 5 virtual dragons and its name is
What about Accel Link-ro, where you Link Summon with linked Link Monsters to get a Link 16 monster that links two zones in the direction of each arrow?
Then you go even further beyond and start linking with cards in the hand.
>We find out that VRAINS takes place in the a 5Ds timeline
>Link monsters were created to slow down the summoning of Synchro and other Extra Deck methods in order to prevent the disaster that would eventual befall Ylister's timeline.
>This is Konami stealthily saying "STOP BRINGING LEWD WAIFU MATS TO OUR CHILDREN'S GAME TOURNAMENTS"
It's almost like Link Summoning was created out of every single gripe Konami's had with the playerbase and the game in general.
>hey guys we heard you liked Zexal 1.0 and Zexal 2.0 so here's Zexal 3.0
>not liking the sexy as fuck tight suit
>hair is a messy clump of clashing shapes
>red, pink and yellow hair with an even more ridiculous pink vein
>suit has some cool ideas but the overall design is clunky and feels too simple
>crazy bright hair completely clashes with the dark green suit
Just no. Whoever designed that thing was definitely colour blind.
>they thought ygo6 would be better than arc-v
Tournament on the blacktop after class tonigh. Real nigga rules only, no link shitters allowed. High DEF monsters encouraged.
On the brightside, this new Links thing basically confirms the show will have the other summoning methods like in ARC-V. Konami needs to teach the kids how to use them is in this new system after all
So, I keep seeing in a lot of places people saying stuff along the lines
>Oh, heres the usual people saying "Time to quit because new mechanic" that always pops up. No big deal.
No. Trust me, this is not the same. I've seen each time this happens, and this time feels different. I'm seeing more signs that says this might be serious.
We'll have to wait to see how sales go, but this really might have been a giant blunder on Konami's part.
They put a 15-card limit on the "Fusion" Deck, but nobody gave a shit at that time, since Fusions were a joke.
They also put a max card limit after 2 shitters ruined a tournament, again, nobody gave a shit.
Those count as changes/nerfs
No, I'm aware of that.
I mean that, I keep seeing people who aren't taking these people seriously because "this always happens" and I'm saying that this not the same type of complaints, and not taking this seriously is foolish right now.
Will this year's Maylu be thirsty as fug?
It feels different because this is an unprecedent situation. There has never been a rule change with this much impact, so obviously people have much more reason to be apprehensive.
But it's silly to make any predictions about how this will really affect the game when we still only know so little about how all of this works exactly. Just keep calm and wait for details.
This is the first time the operation of old card types got affected. When Pendulum got released, Synchro and Xyz worked just the same as always, and the new special rules (like not going to the graveyard) only applied within Pendulum, not affecting other cards (again, Fusion/Synchro/Xyz cards and summoning operated exactly the same as always). This time, you literally cannot play the cards the same as you used to. I now have to use a Link monster to summon multiple of older ED monster types.
>Both players can have fields now
>First turn player doesn't get a draw
It was a minor change last time, but this time it's major.
I'm of the opinion that this will, in the long run, help the health of the game and make it last longer. I just hope that we don't bleed half of our playerbase because of some misguided butthurt over not being able to spam out ED monsters anymore.
I've already done theorycrafting for the Link monsters in all of my ED-centric decks and adapted to the new rules. (except Pendulum-centric decks since we don't know how Links interact with ED Revival yet). Most of them have minimal impact, and I run shit like Chaos Resonator Photon Synchrons, Eatos.dek, DDDs, and Charmers. Some decks might hurt a bit if they decide to not raise the ED count (Synchro decks in particular, sorry whitecardbros), but all this mechanic does is force players to slow their shit down and actually focus on what's important in their deck.
This doesn't hurt anybody that isn't willing to actually think about it.
taking this seriously when 1) we dont have all rulings and 2) we have only seen 4 link monsters is retarded
yes, game is getting a pretty huge change. Its worth being aware of. Anything beyond that is just guessing
Well, truth to be told those changes did slow the game a bit and also got rid of first turn unbreakable boards.
Then again, it's japan we are talking about. They love simple stuff
I don't have much hope given Konami's history with alternative formats, but it would be a good move to keep pre-link Yugioh "official" alongside its current incarnation for some time. That way, the people who don't want the change can keep playing and won't have much reason to be mad while others can try out the new rules in peace. They can always start merging them once the initial confusion dies down and the new meta is established, which would still result in butthurt, but probably a whole lot less of it.
You smug weebs actually watch this besides the abridged series?
I'd be willing to bet that KoA does exactly that, but something tells me that "old" YGO will be the only format that gets played, unless Konami treats it like Traditional (read: acknowledges that it exists but gives it no support).
They didn't slow the game down. They hit ED reliant decks in the kneecaps, but decks that don't or barely go into the ED will still be as fast as they were before.
Hell, I guaratee you, in about a year, we'll be back to ED swarm, just with those monsters being Link Monsters.