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Little Witch Academia Moonrunes Thread

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Online Generator: https://ay.medyotan.ga/lunanova/index.htm

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>>152418074
is this the official cheatsheet used by Trigger?
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>>152418111
Nope producer says she won't be releasing until probably end of the TV airing
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>>152418111
it's a cheat sheet we've deciphered from one image.
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>>152418111
>implying we even need the cheatsheet anymore
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>>152418111
No. Just what a bunch of /a/utists can do with their free time.
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>>152418175
this was from a guy from 2ch trying to decipher it when they saw us doing it.

this excites the neurons
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>>152418074
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>>152418175
Two images, last 5 are logical conjecture based on reading pixels from their textbook.
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>>152418164
oh,

it would be interesting if actually we got the code all wrong somehow.

but then again, its problable we will know once the next appearance of those glyphs occurs.
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>don't want to learn japanese

>but decipher an entirely new language because of cute witches

goddammit /a/
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>>152418261
The textbook was merely used to confirm an anon's hypothesis of a looping sequence.
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Has anyone written something out by hand in moon runes?

>>152418183
What are the moons on the side? Parentheses?
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>>152418316
Fuck learning nip, just going to get good and shitpost with moonrunes.
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>>152418074
>hundreds of posts about a simple substitution cipher
>all of this self-congratulation over a background visual device Trigger cared so little about they copypasted Lorem Ipsem boilerplate

Anons, pls.
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>>152418074
So basically this alphabet is convoluted as fuck?
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>>152418074
FYI the online generator is still using the old version of the font with the missing letters.
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>>152418261
/a/ always shine when we work together
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>>152418377
They will update when?
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>>152418261
They are known, the looping sequence explanation means that the symbols for W-Z are defined in A and Z.
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>>152418364
remember when the madoka runes appeared? there's always an autist a foot
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>>152418344
Parenthesis yeah, but they're made up. Not taken from the anime.

From the anime all we have are A-Z and also the period is just a normal dot.

Notice there are 2 fonts in the OP. One is just the actual canon stuff, and the second font has some made up extra punctuation like parenthesis, commas, exclamation point, question mark, etc..
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>>152418364
It earned us a much coveted AMA, seems good to me.
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>>152418364
Maybe the attention it's getting will lead to Trigger putting in real secret messages.

This reminds me of those old alien language ciphers from Futurama.
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DID WE BEAT THE JPS TO IT
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>>152418423
Those were actually challenging, since they were corresponding to passages of Goethe in the original German
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>>152418452
I don't think they care that much
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>>152418452
Yes, /a/ did it first. 2ch was impressed.

>I'm impressed the westerners were able to decipher this so quickly. When they see something they don't know, they research it. That's why technology grew in the west.
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>>152418452
Seems like we did anon, pat yourself on the back, you've deserved it.
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>>152418364
Welcome to /a/.
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Can't wait for more runes to appear in the anime,
rune posting will become a thing in 2017
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>>152418175
So what does all that shit say?

Did Diana get all of it or what?
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>>152418364
Why'd they make a coherent alphabet and translate actual text if it wasn't important. They could get away with gibberish if they didn't care.
Tattun confirmed on twitter that there are a bunch of texts they had to translate using this code. Also Trigger is withholding the cheat sheet until the end of the show so it must be important enough.
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>>152418452
elevens don't give a shit about LWA. They're too busy fapping to Konosuba
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>>152418511
>I'm impressed the westerners were able to decipher this so quickly. When they see something they don't know, they research it. That's why technology grew in the west.

In what thread they said that?
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>>152418518
>tfw you actually did mildly contribute
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>>152418558
this thread

http://shiba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1484521671
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>>152418558
Idk, word from the mouth of a translator anon in one of the first translation threads. Like 2 days ago.
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>>152418592
Thanks.
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>>152418074
GUYS
What if the moon cycle corresponds to some actual moon phases.

I'm trying to look it up but it's hard to understand. I wonder if there's some actual year/month or whatever that has this particular moon cycle
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>>152418630
There's no waxing or waning tho
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>>152418452
As they pointed out, it was probably easier for us because the English speakers already easily think in A-Z and a Latin-similar consonant-vowel relationship, in addition to some people who had a basic knowledge of Latin itself which made guessing "NON" etc much simpler. If they corresponded to kana and wrote out a relatively familiar Japanese phrase the Japs may well have beaten us to it, although many on /a/ are of course also familiar with kana.
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>>152418558
>>152418592
>>152418603

I found the post using google translate because I still haven't learned jap
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>>152418452
Only because only baka gaijin care enough about LWA to do it.
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Now we have google to integrate to chrome
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>>152418668
>Anonymous of the Valley of the Wind
This sounds really cool.
Why don't we have cool names too?
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>>152418592
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>>152418667
This.

I told /a/ they wouldn't be able to do it because the moonrunes would correspond to Japanese.

Boy was I wrong. But we did luck out, seriously. Has nothing to do with intelligence.
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>>152418074
all this monerune shit corresponds to the entire theme of astrology going on in the show
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>>152418630
As somebody at the end of the last thread mentioned, there's no waxing half-moon. You'd have to either draw extremely arbitrary lines of where the "full" symbol starts and the "waxing crescent" symbol ends, which ought to give a noticeable effect on the frequency of those symbols in the pattern, or assume that the half-moon counts for both waxing and waning, which would probably fuck up the whole thing. Regardless of your resolution plan, wherever you draw the lines is going to determine how easy it is to find a match, coincidental or real.
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>>152418754
I'm glad he corrected the nip, that could have been dangerous if someone else had been there.
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>>152418798
Wow
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>>152418767
It wasn't that hard to figure out it would be latin, since all of the spells are as well.
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>>152418798
Don't set yourself up for disappointment like /vp/ with their alchemy theories for sun and moon
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>>152418754
What's the point of fake translations like this?
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>>152418767
I think the determining factor is that we're sitting here discussing Jap TV and a lot of people could easily go through all the hiragana/katakana symbols by rote, while the Japs are discussing Jap TV and may or may not know or care much about English/Latin.
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>>152418877
it is actually a thing though, the constellation here is the big dipper.

excluding the one star that flies out because that one is chariot
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>>152418880
That's just a screencap brah
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>>152418798
>Luna Academy
wow what a deep connection you just made, i never would have guessed that the moon was important
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>>152418921
Isn't that the little dipper?
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>>152418754
Which anime board on 2ch are these screenshots coming from anyway? Don't they have like 50 anime boards?
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>>152418798
>>152418877
>>152418921

then theres a shop literally called "ursa major" and the premium chariot card is being sold there.
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>>152418880
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>>152418976
>ursa major store
>right next to "awesome store" and presumably "restaurant"
Some imaginative names there.
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>>152418976
>>152418921
>>152418976

there's also the fact that the ursa major is one gigantic constellation that includes the big dipper inside it.
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>>152418976
What do they sell at Awesome Store???
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>>152419013
Tattun can only translate so much stuff to latin
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>>152418880
It isn't a translation, though.
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>>152418976
>>152419081

the shiny rod and the big dipper both share seven stars too which is pretty neat.
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>>152419139
ARM PIT WINDOWS
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>>152419139
whats more ursula's familar is named "alcor" which the name for another constellation
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>>152419139
Ursa's clearly named after the constellation; the staff is supposed to represent it as well.
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>>152419139
I want those cards so bad.
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>>152419013
>>152419105
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>>152419178
actually to be precise, alcor is one of the stars of the big dipper.

tl:dr theres a fuck ton of astrology themes

>>152419213
you know ursulas name could be derived from the ursa minor
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>>152419227
>Closed
I guess they're fresh out of awesome.
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>>152419218
I want them badly as well
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>>152419238
Why would she be? They've pretty obviously made Ursa Major her constellation.
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>>152419297
I said "could be" but you're right. her name is most likely derived from ursa major.
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>>152418074
Who the fuck would invent and actually use these moonrunes in writing?
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does the anon have the sheet where they figured out this? it's from episode 2
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>>152419466
witches, duh
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>>152419466
Witches, presumably they don't have to write them by hand.
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>>152419529
You can just read this one by squinting at it. It's more lorem ipsum in a funny font
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>>152418921
Mizar and Alcor are a double System (or quadruple but those two are the only ones visible). Alcor is kind of faint.
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>>152419466
punchcard overlords?
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>>152419466
a turbo autist
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>>152420133
The real autists are the poeple who saw a bunch of moons in the background and believed a readable secret message was there.
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>>152420264
>spaces to differentiate words
>periods
>the witches clearly read and write them
wow much autism
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>>152418452
Weaponized autism strikes again.
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>>152419529
I immediately recognized that it was Voynich script.
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>>152421141
>>152420174
>TURD
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>>152420174
>>152421141
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>>152419529
see >>152420174

It found a way.
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>>152420174
DELET
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>>152420174
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More Tattun!
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>>152422267
>Tattun commented on my font
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Seems like it's gonna be while before we get that ama, might as well keep shutposting in moonrunes.
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>>152422374
well it's time to increase the moonrune efficiency then
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>>152422374
We're not seriously going to get an AMA on /a/ from a Trigger Staffer.
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>>152422442
It has happened before with other writers/animators.
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>>152422442
Check it out anon
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>>152422442
Tattun is a trigger staffer isnt he?
he did one the other day!
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>>152422442
Are you stupid?
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>>152422481
Who?
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>>152422601
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>>152422601
Off the top of my head I believe log herizon when season 1 aired, and we tried to convince him his sister wanted to sleep with him.
But there have definitely been others.
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Ok. All this theory shit and moonrunes are cool.

But what does it all mean?
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>>152422849
It's like when we all thought Mako was secretly fighting behind the scenes with brooms and shit in KlK.
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>>152422849
Anime is saved
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>>152422849
fun, nigga.
If you're going to be watching a show about magic, it might as well be as legit as humanly possible instead ofAkko trying to bea Magical Girl
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>>152422902
I remember how excited everyone was when we first saw that bottom image. I wish KLK was never released so I could go back to thinking it would be good.
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>>152424310
But it was good.
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>>152419139
So basically Shiny Chariot knows Hokuto Shinken?
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>>152424610
Deepest lore
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>>152418175
>>152418183
>>152418074
>Ayyliums come
>/a/ translates it in a day
>they make anime real
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>>152418511
USA USA USA
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>>152427742
I want to see Hannah and Barbara enjoy hambagah while Diana looks on in astonishment and Akko drools like a little puppy.
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>>152427775
I want to see Hannah and Barbara enjoy each other's womanhood while Diana looks on in astonishment and Akko drools like a little puppy.
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Has someone wrote this in moonrunes then?
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>>152419178
I think it may be actually Alcor itself in some way, it flew right out of the constellation.
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>>152418074
Time to shitpost in moonrunes
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>>152428315
exactly,

it was chariots hat so to speak. she rode on it twice
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>>152428284
This is a reference to the stone from Enchanted Parade most likely
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I haven't been following these threads except when a new episode is out so what information exactly does cracking this language reveal?
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>>152428430
Nothing so far, the moon runes on the board were just lorem ipsum.
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>>152428430
whenever a moonrune appears in future episode it'll be much easier to decode.

the producer of the show won't give out the cheat sheet until the end of the run so it must hold importance
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>/a/ decodes the moonrunes
>anime studios notice /a/
>start lurking here
>anime producers stop making anime because they're lurking /a/
>they become all NEETs
>/a/ killed anime
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>>152428491
Considering there is an actual cheat sheet for the runes, and there's an actual logic behind them, that's a pretty accurate statement. No one is gonna put that much effort just to lorem ipsum that shit.
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>>152428603
>/a/ decodes the moonrunes
>anime studios notice /a/
>they step up their game and try to outsmart /a/ resulting in more thought and effort going into Anime
>/a/ saves Anime
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>>152418074
Isnt this just braille?
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>>152428714
a cursory look at braille will make it clear it's not
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>>152427558
I wish I could have contributed to those threads, but no, of course not, I got stuck filling out paperwork instead.
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>>152428714
No, your idiot.
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>>152429304
>your idiot
No, YOU'RE an idiot
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all this shit happening within the span of a few days has actually shortened the wait of the new episode.

speaking of episodes, someone on 2.ch got the netflix titles for the next 3 episodes
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>>152429473
When I was thinking I had enough QUEEN with Jojo...
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>>152429420
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>>152428366
Nobody then? Well, I will have to act.

Watch me reach a new level of shitpos-, sorcery I mean.
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>>152429885
now this is high quality rune posting
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>>152429925
It may seems crude but... Do you want the .ass?
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>>152429885
It's like we witness the beginning of something wonderful.
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>>152429885
>[/a/non] Little Witch Academia - 02 [BFC20AB5].mkv
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>>152429885
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>>152430041
Asenshi in best font for info.
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>>152430083

holy shit
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>>152430037
Yeah, our very own secret club, impenetrable by normies!
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>>152430101
It just works.
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>>152429885
>>152430083
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>>152429885
thats really fucking impressive, anon. somebody show this to Tattun
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>>152429885
Amazing, I'm gonna rewatch the episodes with that font.
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>>152430083
>>152429885
>>152430128
>>152430004

FUCKING RUNEPOSTERS
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>>152430150
wait until the batch release from netflix anon
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>>152429885
This doesn't even compare to Asenshi's 200% typesetting
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>>152430265
that shit made me lose it
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>>152430265
It's their typeset, but they should write numbers in letters, just look at that.

Such "professionalism".
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>>152430368
How do i change the subtitle font? I am using MPV.
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>2011
>Madoka airs
>there are witches
>they have special decipherable runes

>2017
>LWA airs
>there are witches
>they have special decipherable runes
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>>152430435
>it's been 6 years since madoka aired
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>>152430411
It's .ass editing anon (subtitle files), you can get aegissub to make your own.

Italic moonrunes also.
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>>152430475
Crap.
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>>152430004
Yes please.
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>>152429885
I'm suprised that nobody did this with the Madoka runes.
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>>152430505
Correcting something I just saw then.
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>>152430475
... and how i find the .ass file?
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>>152430610
A mkv editing tool or open it in aegissub.
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>>152430610
If you ever happen to need the .ass file by itself for some reason, the releases on AnimeTosho have the .ass ripped and put into a zip file.

But yeah, this >>152430636
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I came here in 2010 is this what early 4chan days were like? In terms of actually doing some things.
Or does everyone keep saying that just to feel better about themselves.
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>>152430773
>I came here in 2010 is this what early 4chan days were like? In terms of actually doing some things

What do you think we would do?
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>>152429885
That's amazing.
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>>152430773
if you count fun posting then yes.

once in awhile you get absolutely golden threads
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>>152430773
Early 4chan was an OC machine but most of it focused around shoops. That culture decayed over time but you still see sparks of it crop up when the right topic comes around.
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>>152430773
You missed it when Madoka was airing?
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>>152418880
>fake translation
It's literally right there in the thread on 2ch no translation.
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someone needs to release moonrune versions of episodes 1 and 2 on nyaa
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>>152430878
I was there but it seems like there are fewer quintessential moments over the years. Well, it feels like that to me anyway.
I don't count times like the shitstorm that happened when the guy got cucked in erased or other inconsequential meltdowns.
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>>152430905
>Episode 3
>Asenshi subs hit nyaa
>Downloads:1
>minutes later
>[/a/non] Little Witch Academia - 03 [C2F4478D].mkv
>10000+ downloads
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>>152431039
I guess you could say that they'll get eclipsed
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There we go, had to correct cards descriptions.
https://my.mixtape.moe/bvppfp.ass
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Akko kakkoi!!!!
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>>152431212
doki doki waka waka yay hehe domo yatta

Akko is straight up retarded
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>>152431239
Rude
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>>152431255
But its true anon
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>>152431239
Retardedly cute, just makes me wanna hug her
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>>152431329
>ywn fondle hug akko and fondle her ponytail
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>>152430905
Don't push me or the movies gets it too.
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>>152431212
>>152431239
>>152431255
>>152431315
>>152431329
>>152431365

keep your cancer to a different thread
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>>152431159
Cheers
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>>152431365
>fondle her ponytail

LEWD
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Go shitpost in the general niggers.

This is a moonrune thread.
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>>152431365
>>152431442

decipher this anons
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>>152431400
Fuck off faggot
You don't get to tell me where to post and this seems like the perfect autism thread anyway.
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>>152431483
it's perfect from your waifu faggotry

>>152426302
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>>152431483
He's right though, there are two other LWA threads where you can safely akkopost
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>>152431524
>Akkopost
>because I said she's a retard

Seriously, fuck off you stuck up faggots. There's not even a reason why this moon rune garbage should be a seperate thread anyway.
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>>152431481
>>152431516
>complaining about waifufags on 4chan of all places

Tattun's not gonna do an AMA on plebbit
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>>152431589
because thsi thread encourges discussions of the actual show while you can safely akko post in different thread.
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>>152431630
>>>/b/
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>>152431768

got anything to add anon? we recently got the new episode titles >>152429473
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And 1st episode where Harry Potter Helped apparently (still asenshi).
https://my.mixtape.moe/gluwff.ass
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So can anyone actually interpret the runes at a glance? How long would it take to become intuitive?
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Next question you autists:
What is the meaning behind the moon sequence?
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>>152431919
Aeons of practice.
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>>152431919
When I wanted to learn nordic runes or azbuka, I just transcribed a newspaper page, but these moonrunes are shit to write by hand so dunno.
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>>152431919
once more episodes of LWA show them, anons will probably be alot more fluent.

>>152431936
which one anon?
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>>152431952
I will sacrifice my left testicle in order to be fluent in the witch language
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>>152431955
>but these moonrunes are shit to write by hand so dunno.

Yeah I've been trying to figure out how the fuck to make this script fluid. Sorry for phoneposting
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>>152432318
Try joining certain moon phases with a line, the rest of the rune with a dot/cross/side line. I haven't tried it out but I think that could make it faster
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>>152431959
The one that is shifted around and taken six adjacent symbols from
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>>152432373
Oh nvm
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>>152432318
This is a type of runes that isn't really made for for handwriting. It is more for stone carving and shit
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>>152432415
do you think a caveman would be discovered in luna nova?
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>>152432415
exactly, they use voynich language to do normal writing
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>>152432449
I don't mean cavemans. I mean pre-paper (and variants) civilisations.
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>>152432415
>This is a type of runes that isn't really made for for handwriting

True. The more stylized the handwriting gets the harder it is to interpret the moons anyway.
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>>152427558

helps when it's just a sppoky version of a language you know to cross reference with when a pattern arises. too expensive to make up a new language.
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>>152420174
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>>152422442

AMA's are not for 4chan, it will only invite more problems, the platform isn't designed for it. Turns threads into utter shitfests of spam. You really want to start going down the rabbit hole of inviting PR departments and changing the core idea of anonymous posting? Threads with moot were bad enough.
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>>152420174
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Goddamn I can't believe some of you guys spend your time doing shit like this
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>>152433430
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>>152420174
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>>152433246
>platform isn't designed for it

years ago we had the author of log horizon do a Q and A and it was heavily moderated.

I ain't buying it
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>>152422442
>>152433246

fucking newfags, this is the thread where the log horizon author was in.

https://foolz.fireden.net/a/thread/95479152/
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>>152428603
>Implying they didn't already know about us calling Japanese moonrunes and creating actual moonrunes for this reason alone
Anon, please.
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>>152433246
>changing the core idea of anonymous posting?
I don't really understand what you mean by this but Q&A threads with famous people, while rare, are not a new thing. Fucking /mu/ had Deadmau5 turn up once, I think that was organised by moot.
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>there are faggots in this thread who thought that Q/A's never existed.

I guess "lurk more" is no longer a meme
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>>152433246
I was live translating Mamare's answers from JP to EN and it was hell.
It was also hell for him because he couldn't keep up with the posting rate.
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>>152433955
It never was a fucking meme.
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>>152433972
I fucking agree now after this revelation
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>>152433828
There were at least two more, one in December and another in something like March of the following year.
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>>152433828
>>152433771

So you want to turn /a/ or 4chan into a forum platform? Heavily moderated sessions 'for a select few' interviewees? I just don't want it to become such a common thing, as it could have other implications of how japmoot runs things (changes to policy). The sites already filled with PR, shillings and market research, I just don't want things to change any more than they have over the years to accommodate external pressures. The general sycophantic behaviour when we have those interviews can also be really abhorrent.

tl;dr I hate change and ass kissing 'important' people.
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>>152434112
>tl;dr I hate change
then stop complaining about q&as fucking idiot. we have them every so often.
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>>152434112
This desu
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>>152434112
you are so fucking new it hurts. I bet if I didn't mention those you'll still be out of the loop.
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>>152434156

Thrilling conjecture of how long I've browsed friend.
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>>152434191
answer me truthfully, did you even know that "important" people did Q and A's on this board before I mentioned it.

I want you to be honest.
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>>152434112
This isn't a "change", nor would it lead to a "heavily moderated platform". These things really aren't new and how the hell would they become a common thing?
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>>152418441
Are we actually getting an AMA with the director?
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>>152434367
the LWA producer apparently
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>>152434112
Why the fuck would it become a common thing? Both mamare and tattun literally appeared out of nowhere.
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>>152434268

Yes. For only LH author only, beyond that it's merely moot/japmoot/mod sucking up. I cannot remember or know of every single time it's happen or on every board. I knew of the deadmou5 of /mu/ but never browsed the board when it happened, same can be said of any others on other boards. What I'm getting at is setting a precedent. Yes they are rare and they need to be that way. But inviting the guy back, encouraging the use of a trip and then setting up the possibility of another trigger employee, just starts the run of other entities further down the line all starting to do AMA's. If this is what you want then so be it, but it's just not how I'd like to see PR/interview interactions on 4chan. I just don't think the way we tend to communicate fits with a proper interview scenario. Take the various times moot would post in a thread, it would divulge into a complete shitshow, with him attempting to answer some cherry picked questions among the sheer spam of a thread. If you start to heavily moderate AMA threads, that can extend further. Do you want more dick pic tweets and the like? Do you want vigorously controlled behaviors in AMAs? Or just want the moot level wash of spam and insults to be the mainstay content of the thread?
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>>152434579
anon kamiya visted too /v/ you know but I bet you didn't know that either

stop being such a worrywart. notice the trip.

have a greatday and relax for abit. now get back to moonrune posting
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>>152434579
Relax, anon. The only reason he got invited back is because he got banned halfway through, and I'm pretty sure setting up a Q&A with the producer was his idea. I understand your concerns, but I think you're overlooking the myriad amount of times this has already happened.
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>>152434579
>>152434638
here's the thread if you're also wondering, what Im trying to get at is that you worry far too much about things that are a rare occurrence under certain circumstances.

I understand your worries but no need to think about all the negatives.

https://foolz.fireden.net/v/thread/226724984/

Since we're getting a little off topic, Did you enjoy the little witch academia anime?
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>>152434579
>Do you want vigorously controlled behaviors in AMAs? Or just want the moot level wash of spam and insults to be the mainstay content of the thread?
Why does it has to be one or the other? Neither extreme was a thing when Tattun came.
Though, I had to decide, I would prefer the later. Letting people run rampant is just the usual for this place.
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>>152434638
I love that my photo is in there
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For those who cannot be bothered to learn the alphabet (python27):

import sys

print("1 = crescent facing left\n4 = crescent facing right\n2 = half moon\n3 = full moon\n")
runeStrip = raw_input("Runes from top to bottom, left to right: ")
print "\nYou entered:", runeStrip

runeSequence = "1421123243424134421223133414211"
alphabet = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"

runeText = "Translated from runes: "

while runeStrip!='':

rune1 = runeStrip[0]
rune2 = runeStrip[1]
rune3 = runeStrip[2]
rune4 = runeStrip[3]
rune5 = runeStrip[4]
rune6 = runeStrip[5]
runeStrip = runeStrip[6:]

index = runeSequence.find(rune1+rune4+rune5+rune2+rune3+rune6)
runeText = runeText + alphabet[index]

print runeText
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>>152435680
your a fucking madman anon
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>>152418074

LWA runes only exist in one scene, dont are the name of some witch or character
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>>152435775
the producer got a cheatsheet but won't share them until the end of the run, so it's gotta be a big deal but we made our own cheatsheet
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>>152435903
I wonder how she'll feel when she sees the OP chart
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>>152433479
>(VOS)
What did he mean by this?
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>>152436547
They might tell us it's wrong even if it's right just to fuck with us. Then we spend all the time between then and the next usage of moon ripping the moonspeak apart to figure out what may or may not actually be wrong.
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>>152436809
I hope that version with our placeholder runes doesn't get spread around too much
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>>152436809
>what did he mean by this?
kek
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>>152434638
he's a huge fucking dick though
>>
EPISODE 3 IS IN 3 DAYS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO KILL TIME

hard mode: show it in moonrunes
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>>152435680
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>>152437142
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>>152437841
>get tomorrows date
always gets me
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>>152437855
"Work on the backlog most likely"
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>>152437841
>>152435680
It's not that bad, it's just that the user input process is way too cumbersome. You could probably do it quicker just by looking at the cheat sheet.

I don't think there really is any elegant way for a user to input the runes on a computer.
Probably the best bet for a decoding program would be one which you can feed an image and it reads the symbols off the image, which would be way more complex.
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>>152438721
It's called OCR.
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>>152438798
I know that, what's your point? That using OCR is easy? Fine, but I never said it was hard, just that the program would be more complex, and OCR programs/libraries are way more complex than a 20 line python script.
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>>152418074
And here I thought my own secret runes were too cumbersome to use since they can't be jotted down without looking.
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Dudes, if this is just a cypher, there shouldn't be much to worry about.

Can someone give me a transcription of the blackboard text in roman characters? Even if it's gibberish.
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>>152440080
you are four days late my dude
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>>152440186
Then where is the transcription? It should be in the OP, for fuck's sake.
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>>152440291
it's a jumbled lorem ipsum
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>>152440291
The whole thing is already decoded. Days ago. It isn't the most recent or significant thing to happen anymore.
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>>152440291
Just lurk in the threads.
The cipher matrix gets posted every other time.
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>>152440372
>>152440459
Nah, you guys can keep your shitty 1:1 alphabet replacement to yourselves, I just thought you were still trying to figure messages out since the OP doesn't say much about it.

Took two words from the anime and it says Lectus and Vestibulum, so yeah, just Lorem Ipsum.

Peace out.
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>>152440666
Actually, are you still trying to figure the other one out?
There's a simple computational method for that even if you don't know which letters are which, but we gotta assign a letter (from A to Z) to each symbol.
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>>152440698
Other what?
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>>152441202
The stuff written on the fairy book, for instance.
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>>152438721
I wrote a program that can translate properly (most of the time?) clear runes like in >>152437855 or >>152436966

I tried it with a screenshot of the anime and it failed miserably though, so its pretty much useless in practice
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>>152440666
actually tattun hinted that the moonrunes decode to the alphabet.
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>>152441456
Wasn't that also lorem ipsum made in a voynich font that can be found in google?
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>>152441456
It's all been uncovered, comrade.
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>>152440698
What is this computational method you mentioned?
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>>152441471
>>152441535
Ah, then make a FAQ or something, you've wasted my precious shitposting time on something that looks like a puzzle-solving thread, but isn't.
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>>152441461
woah that might be useful in the long run, mind sharing it?
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>>152441577
You only have yourself to blame for not constantly being in these threads for the past week.
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>>152441577
oh anon we're preparing for solving puzzles, the producer has a cheat sheet actually so more runes must appear as more episodes comeout
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>>152441577
These were the puzzle solving threads, you're just late. This is most likely the last iteration until the next episode gets subs.
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>>152441577
The FAQ is kind of the OP man, it's listing the decode.
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The autism is dead?
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>>152441719
theres only 2 episodes out of 25.

you do the math
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>>152441733
But if the others 23 episodes don't use the moonrunes?
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>>152441719
>Autism ends when the current problem is solved
Oh anon
if only it were that simple
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>>152441750
Then we'll all be very surprised?
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>>152430845
>fun posting
He's talking about the early days. Early (and by early I mean '06 and before) 4chan didn't have that sort of spam. Big difference is that modern 4chan most people treat as a chat room, not a forum. It's a race to get your own inane comments in because everything moves so fast.

That's not to say there weren't bad posts or whatever back then but it was definitely different.

>>152430874
Yeah. Photoshop tennis was the shit.
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which is better
>Madoka Witch Runes
>Little Witch Runes
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>>152441587
Sure, I'll upload it once i get home
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>>152441577
Woah, thanks for all the (You)s, guys.

>>152441587
Let's suppose we didn't know what each letter meant. We just assign them a latter from A to Z and write the whole text in cyphered form. Pic related.

Then you apply a dictionary from the suspected language and voilà:
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/cryptogram-solver.php

I used this recently to solve some graffiti in some anon's university, I'll post a picture next.
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>>152441837
Here's the deciphered text, it's in monkeyspeak but you can kinda guess the method from looking at the symbols and cluster of letters.
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>>152441877
Eu falei que o 4chan tinha desvendado o código
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>>152441837
Interesting and possibly quite handy. Thanks, anon.
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>>152441800
Madoka runes. More visually pleasing, and translate into a better language.
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>>152441800
both
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Languages and alphabets succesfully translated by /a/ :
Madoka Runes
LWA Moonrunes
Enta Isla
Suisei no Gargantia's written alphabets

Am I missing something?
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>>152441800
all this post can make me think about is LWA, but animated by Inuit Curry
everyone's a super abstract monster, but nothing else changes
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>>152442020
Japanese
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>>152442094
>implying that will ever be translated
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>>152442020
Aquarion EVOL's.
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Good job.
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>>152439178
I'll see what I can do with the Tesseract library then.
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>>152434112
How new are you? Mods have worked with people for Q&As in the past. Hell, deadmau5 was given his own capcode for one several years back.
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>>152434112
>being this nofunallowed
>>>/lit/
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>>152442020
Honestly, were any of these actually a unique language, or just a substitution cipher on all accounts?

That said, I also did the majority of the runes in Gate, but I didn't finish watching the second season to get any remaining letters. (B, F, L, P, Q, V, X, Y, and Z)
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>>152443177
i believe they are all ciphers
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>>152428603
>/a/ decodes the moonrunes
>anime studios notice /a/
>start lurking here
>see continuous keit-ai posting
>decides to make it into an anime
>/a/ saves anime
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>>152443222
People make constructed languages all the time; some even make them and open them up to be used by anyone. I feel it would be neat if an anime actually made use of a conlang, and actually make you faggots have to work to decipher shit.
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>>152443177
I can't imagine a studio putting in the effort to make a true conlang. They're hard work if you don't half ass it. It's pretty much reserved for linguistic geeks.
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>>152443313
Man, that would be neat as all hell.
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>>152443313
The only weeb media conlang I can think of is Hymnos. And they had a lot more time to make that, since that's from a video game.

Are there any others in weeb media?
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>>152443329
The Language Creation Society has a site where you can hire an interested conlanger.

http://jobs.conlang.org/submit-a-job-listing
A full language (orthography included) would be at least $600, which I don't think is much more than any other professional artist. So the studio can work on most of the show while the conlang is being made.
(Note, this is also the site GoT used to commission Dothraki.)
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>>152443660
Yeah they could. Or they can just do a substitution with some symbol set, which has about the same effect from a viewer perspective (arguably a better one if you consider accessibility) and costs about an hour's worth of time from some autist they already have on staff.

Even if someone did go through the effort, I think the audience would be more likely to suspect gibberish than conlang.
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https://mega.nz/#!hFEHQKpA!kKQBOomKka3ABcukb6hHv7D06L4Xs9AJTgSwq-Izy38

Ok here is the runes reader I mentioned earlier in the thread. Basically select an image with (clear) runes, and it will spit out the translation

I doubt I'll keep working on this, since getting it to work with screenshots is proving kinda hard
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>>152443779
I think the effort they put into the moon pattern kinda shows some work were put into it, so maybe they just suck at conlanging and did a half-assed job.
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>>152444589
It's cool but it's nowhere near the work involved in creating a grammar and a vocab that sounds reasonable when spoken.
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>>152444784
they're not speaking it though
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>>152442020
Danmachi (2 rune sets) and Konosuba (at least 3 sets), but there were also parallel decyphering in Japan etc.

Some of the first /wsr/ threads were KonoSuba rune threads, for example.
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>>152444452
Can I please have the source code to this thing? I'm trying to code a language for Tesseract.
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>>152444817
That's true. But Latin is also their spell casting language; presumably they'd use the same for both. Besides, replace spoken with read and you get the same result.

Also I don't think you're going to fit enough of a language in a show to get a real translation going unless you're talking about 50+ episodes.
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>>152444876
I ain't too keen on OCR, but wouldn't it be sufficient to "simply remap" the glyph for the letters from the latin glyphs to the moonrunes?
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>>152444928
I'll use the Latin package as a baseline, but training Tesseract is a major ordeal, both manually and computationally. Any pre-existing work would be helpful.
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>>152443779
I mean, for some shows, the writing system being just a cipher makes sense. Take the literal moon runes in LWA; the story says they're meant to be a code to share between witches. Not necessarily another language.
The same could be argued for some other shows, but then it doesn't make sense for others, where their made up alphabet is meant for the residents of some other world, and explicitly speak not-Japanese.
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>>152445029
Sure looks like so.
Can't we just automatically generate training data (text and the associated screencaps) with —gasp— e.g. MS Word VBA?
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>>152445042
I think a good analogy would be old alchemical manuscripts. They were usually written in the local language or Latin, and the symbols were just used to cloak important information.
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>>152444784
I wasn't implying it's good, in fact I was agreeing it sucks and is only a cypher, just pointing out they actually put some effort into it because the script rotation thing is quite intersting.
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>>152445237
The Tesseract training scripts for 4.0 only work on Linux. I would use Python or Perl for scripting. But generating the corpus isn't really the hard part.
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>>152445318
I don't think it sucks (unless you're using a full conlang as a basis for comparison, in which case I'd say your standards are too high). I'm just saying that while they put in effort, the level of effort required for this is a lot closer to "shifted every letter over one" than "made a legit conlang"
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>>152445441
So you're using a conlang as a basis for comparison at the same time you're saying my standards are too high for doing it?

The argument anon said was "It's easier to put some autist to scramble fonts and do it in 1 hour than pay 600 dollars".
I was just saying they must have spent a decent amount of time doing the script, so the argument of cutting corners isn't actually that valid.
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>>152444876
https://mega.nz/#!sVNzSIII!GY2ym0r8J9GTixWHIa59N321RTYxRWJtY8euwS01tHw

The code is extremely disgusting though. I honestly doubt it will be helpful. The way I check for runes is very basic and depends on a lot of shit as well
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>>152418074
Why're the Asians so good at coming up with really shitty writing systems?
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>>152445692
>extremely disgusting
I'll say, who uses RAR archives anymore?
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>>152445570
I think you're overestimating the amount of effort required for this. It's clever, certainly, but most of the concepts flow pretty naturally. You start with the luna theme and the use of Latin, so you decide to make a moon based substitution cypher. The most obvious visual element associated with that is phases. Phases are cyclical, so you decide to base your alphabet on a cyclical rotation of phases. You need 24 characters, which means the rotation needs to be 24 characters long (and then loop). You create an arbitrary sequence of phases. You decide how to many to show at a time - anything less than 6 means you can only use a circular rotation, which is a little too obvious, and odd numbers are harder to block off in a visual appealing way. So 6 is a pretty natural number of phases per character. A 2x3 rectangle is about letter sized. Etc, etc.

I've done stuff like that as /tg/ nerd, and I don't think it'd take even $300 worth of time. Especially considering how little people in the animu industry tend to make.
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What's the best way to learn moonrunes? The looping way or just try to memorize every letter
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>>152446475
Looking at the concept done it's easy to say it's obvious, but can we say the concept in itself is something you can just come up with randomly?

Unless they copied this scheme from somewhere else, case in which I drop my case.

Also, I'm starting a logographic language identical to Japanese in phonotatics but different in grammar, vocabulary and logograms, so yeah, I know this shit is not viable on a TV-schedule basis.
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The one who made it and the
one who read it are fuckin' crazy
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>>152446659
>Looking at the concept done it's easy to say it's obvious, but can we say the concept in itself is something you can just come up with randomly?
I've done similar things before for hobby stuff, as I said. Sure, I don't think i'd arrive at the exact same conclusion given the premise of "moon themed language" (I'd probably have ended up doing something more binary like because I'm that sort of autist), but I think I'd end up in the same ballpark. Or maybe not, creativity is funny like that.

>Unless they copied this scheme from somewhere else, case in which I drop my case.
Not that I know of, but I will say the association between moons and cycles is pretty well established, archetypal even. I don't think they copied anything, I just think many of the elements lead into other elements pretty directly.

None of this is to shit on their efforts, I'm just trying to point how huge the gap is between this and a conlang. I could make a reasonable effort at a moon alphabet substitution, but if you told me to come up with a moon themed language I'd scarcely know where to start. Maybe some sort of association between tense and phase? Shit is too hard for me.

>Also, I'm starting a logographic language identical to Japanese in phonotatics but different in grammar, vocabulary and logograms, so yeah, I know this shit is not viable on a TV-schedule basis.
Cool. What for?
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>>152444452
Thanks for stop the fun.
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>>152447133
The fun isn't nearly over yet. Getting Tesseract to read moonish is shaping up to be a weekend-long project, or worse.
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>>152447133
Clearly you just need to captcha up your runes.
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>>152446998
A fictional universe that's been gaining some momentum. I doubt people will actually try to learn it, but I'm doing it just for the linguistic boner.
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Regarding the q&a, who is tattun referring to when he says "her"?
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>>152447498
The producer, also the one responsible for the moonrunes and the owner of its decoding cheatsheet.
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>>152447498
The only person that can do "that".
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>>152445237
Ok, I have at least the initial training data. It's not yet enough to transcribe a document, but it's a start:

https://files.catbox.moe/kivmsq.traineddata
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>>152437095
So are we you daft cunt.
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Nice autism.
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Thanks! :3
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>>152430456
>tfw you were here during /a/'s efforts to decipher the Madoka runes, and the whole Faust happening
>tfw you are here right now

Stop, my penis can only get so erect
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>>152442020
We need a wiki.
Something like, AnimeRunes or something, to catalog the various writing systems and encoded information in animu.
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>>152452628
> :3
Fuck off
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>getting baited
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