>sakuga retards will call this 'beautiful' Hilarious.

I like the soulless dead eyes

>>148203383
>but muh sakuga

Papika is cute! CUTE!

>>148203383
How gay is it?

I don't see anything wrong with that image, is it perhaps off-model?

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>>148203426
Nothing gay here.

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>>148203383
The animation was pretty great.

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>>148203440
There's nothing wrong with it. Papika just has this big dopey smile on her face 90% of the time.

>>148203426
Even more than Yuri

>>148203476
Too ugly to be yuri.

>>148203490
Nothing I haven't seen before.

FRIP FRAP FRIP FRAP

TOOI KOE WO

FRIP FRAP FRIP FRAP

TOJIKOMETA

>>148203490
your standards are low.

>>148203383
she looks like a doof but she's cute desu

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>>148203528
Please do not bully the Flip Flappers.

>>148203490
Post other sakuka, because im not convinced

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>>148203578
You think?

FLIP
FLAP
FLIP
FLAP

paprika it's too retarded

>>148203668
Yes.

>yuribait
Aaaaaand ｄｒｏｐｐｅｄ.

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>>148203722
Cool.

>>148203668
I really liked this cut. It's so cute and full of life.

>>148203383
I don't see anything wrong with this. It's just a different arty style, and it looks fine to me. Is this some exclusive meme that I don't have premium access to?

>>148203490
>No coreography
>Just the typical MOVES REALLY FAST AND THE GROUND BREAKS

Too bad the show is flopping. But it was expected. Director is a newbie and scriptwriter is garbage.

>>148203764
You won't really know if it's just yuribait until it ends.

>>148203668
reminds me of the Birdy Decode ED.

>>148203764
Thanks for the warning, im out

>>148203803
>coreography
That isn't a fight scene? She just moves fast to rescue the red head.

>>148203812
Is there anything that can kill Papika's smile?

>>148203816
Pal, I needed like 10 minutes of this garbage to know for sure it's a pile of crap, targeted at yurishitters.

The animation is nice, but the colour palette is dull and the faces look weird.. I don't think I'm going to last 3 eps.

>>148203764
There's loli/shota twincest.

>>148203866
Almost certainly, if the OP is anything to go by.

Papika

Were Dandy threads like this?
Dozens of webms with shitters trying to downplay the animation and art direction in each one of them

>>148203490
>animation
where? it's just flashy lines and circles.
do you know what animation actually means?

>>148203771
I'm not really into this type of animation with very little detail.

>>148203889
>colour palette is dull
Uh, are you colorblind or something? There's plenty of things you could criticize about this show but the color palette is pretty vibrant.

>>148203879
Since when did actual yuri in a show become yuribait?

>>148203907
Papika!

>>148203909
No, Dandy was actually good. This is just shit.

>implying artstyle = animation

Things can have awful artstyle and still be animated well.

>le quirky, energetic girl to save me from my mundane life anime

10/10 It's okay.

>>148203909
No, Dandy was great

>>148203917
>flashy lines and circles
kek

>>148203933
And just to clarify, I'm not suggesting that they're yuri, just that them actually being gay would make it not yuribait.

>>148203866
If Cocona rejects her. I can already smell the drama.

>>148203909
Thanks twitter

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>>148203935
P̴̡̜̭̍ͪ͊͡a̦̤̘̮̿̈ͩ̍̅ṕ͍̻̜̳̍ͮ̌̉̿̌͡͠ị̠̯̟͉͙̙̟͎͑̋̀͛́͟k̺̋͋̈ͣ̑̔͘̕a̖ͪ̉͋̈́ͧ͢!̢̿͡҉̮͕̘̲

>>148203719
>>148203771
>>148203668
Fantastic.

>>148204022
Coconut

>>148203383
I'm going to assume it's normal for /a/ to just shit on an anime the first episode.

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>>148203426
Fairly gay.

>>148204069
Especially this first episode since /a/ - Anime hates animation now.

Within three weeks it should die dowm

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I don't like "Sakuga" as a label.

I'm a fan of animation, but I never did see the need to use a Japanese umbrella term I don't even really know the meaning of over simply describing the facets of animation I like -- Such as weight, anticipation, timing, arcs of movement, and rhythm, and appreciating the work as a whole.

>>148203909
Dandy threads were full of people fighting about the dub, as far as I remember.
>missing out on viva namida

>>148204069
Only when the anime is actually shit like in this case.

>>148204117
Your vision of animation is pretty narrow, go back watch some Disney

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>>148203958
Having a disgusting artstyle equals not being beautiful, retard.
A combination of both great artstyle and good animation makes an actual beautiful anime.

>>148203383
Dude that's moe

It's sad to say but fags on ice looks way more impressive than this.

Is this a shit season or am I getting bored with anime?

>>148204179
Shit like that doesn't work on me. I'll respond to you this once because it seems like /a/ needs to learn a lesson.

Your post is devoid of content, and doesn't upset me in slightest. I will carry about my day and never think about you or what you (poorly) attempted to inject into the public knowledge of lurkers (You probably see yourself a big troll!).

>>148204179
Nothing of what he posted really tells me of how narrow his vision of animation is.

>>148204022
Why was she stalking Coconut?

>>148204221
I like both.

Flip Flappers has this whimsical magical girl adventure/coming of age story going for it.

>>148204263
Because she smells like a treasure.

>>148204263
She noticed Cocona could see her, since apparently she's some sort of extra-worldly existence. That makes her SUPER INTERESTING for a dummy like Papika.

>>148204286
Is that actually from the show? Very cute motive

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>>148204246

>>148204269
Everything in anime is a coming of age story

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>not watching anime for the entertainment
Sasagufags are irredeemable cancer.

>>148204312
It is. She was searching out a partner with her sense of smell and whimsy, and Cocona happened to have the right scent. The first thing she did when she god close enough is to sniff her just to be sure.

Papika sniffs a lot of things

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>>148204312
Well, she's looking for a treasure that smells like her.

>>148204374
Damn I can't wait to watch this it sounds very sweet

>>148204368
What's entertaining about this boring ass show with absolutely no BL potential?

>>148204422
Anon I think you're just gay.

>>148204368
You can do both you know. Appreciate anime that has been made well and enjoy anime that is just plain fun. Lots of sakugafags love thinks like Teekyuu and Tesabu and gdgd fairies even though those are awful in terms of animation.

I cant complain about animation, there are some great bits there in the episode.

However the director and whoever storyborded and cut it is unproffessional as hack. Transition between scenes is horrible, huge jumps in quality/style from one scene to another within seconds, good animated scenes not always used to best impact, since the show wastes seconds destroying the pace or interchanges good active scenes with static. All begining Cocona slow scenes are boring as fuck and without any purpose.

Who though its good idea to let animator without ANY directional experience whatsoever direct the show?

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>>148204419

>>148204468
>All begining Cocona slow scenes are boring as fuck and without any purpose.
What, that was pretty clearly deliberately done in order to setup how dull and depressing her life is before Papika shows up and then it suddenly becomes an adventure because of her. It is almost like you pay no attention at all to miss something that obvious.

Is this some young animators first animation project? Since it looks amateurish as fuck.

You do realize that everything happened in the 'parallel dimseion' is a result of inhaling huge amount of snow drugs?
It's a social drama about reabilitation

>>148204468
>Blue oni has slow scenes because her life is dull
>Red oni is pure energy and is super active
>anon says that director is bad because directing represent characters and their emotional state

>>148204503
Also the subtle things, such as the lonesome "itekimasu" after leaving the house. It's probably an orphanage.

>>148204503
You need talent to even be able to convey such thing as how dull and empty one life is. Here however, it was just tedious.

hey guys just thought I'd drop in to say this show fucking sucks and youre all idiots if you like it

>>148204448
The problem is that most of them (or at least the most vocal part of them) seems to completely despise anything that doesn't satisfy their ridiculously high standards. They literally can't enjoy anime that doesn't have better than movie tier budget.
I agree that good animation can make anything more enjoyable, but if that's all you watch anime for then you're doing it wrong.

>>148204251
He basically says that he's not open to any form of experimentation (that wouldn't respect his sense of weight and whatnot). There are plenty of fun animation that don't.

>>148204246
Don't worry idc

Finally enjoy an anime in what seems to be 2 years now. /a/ forcefully shits all over it. Well I'll be avoiding these threads.

>>148204567
Boring and badly done = Boring and badly done.

Compare the direction to say Kyousogiga similar scenes, and you realize it doesnt stand the ground at all.

>>148204532
The director is a new director, he worked as an episode director on space dandy but has previous stuck to animation. The animation staff themselves will be varied in experience some people credited on the episode like Toshiyuki Inoue have been in the industry for years working on films like Akira and Ghost in the Shell previously. Others are less experineced but well known younger animators like Shin Enokido who did this scene >>148203490 which was one of the most notable of the episode and has previously worked on well animated shows like Yozakura Quartet and Yatterman until it fell apart.

>>148204532
It looks satisfying enough, I feel. And many frames ooze with sensuality. That's why I'm on board. The exposed midriff here >>148203490, the peek at a supple, young butt-cheek here>>148203812

I give it an 8/10 so far.

So, its tekkon kinkurîto 2.0?

>>148204069
>I'm going to assume it's normal for /a/ to just shit on an anime the first episode.
I'm going to asume that this is your first day here and you are new as fuck.
Wait till ep 3 or ep 4 and most of the shitposters will fuck off.

>>148204368

tanu's art is amazing

Munto of our Generation

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>>148204602
Thanks anon!
>>148204640
See you next week!

>>148204006
She already said no at the end of the episode, and then Cocona was kidnapped. Her smile is gone for good.

>>148204589
I think it was conveyed pretty well, I wasn't bored one minute of the episode. Might just be you to be honest.

>>148204605
I don't think that is true to be honest. Unless your only interaction with people who care about animation is on /a/ and then they are probably just shitposting.

>>148203383
Anyone who claims to be a "sakuga fan" just watches things on sakugabooru and wanks off to some animator they know.
Most of them know nothing about actual animation techniques and what makes a good animation.

>>148204640
Here's hoping it dies down after the first few weeks. Most shitters don't stick around past episode three, even the ones who actually watch the show and dont like it will drop it

>>148204640
The first episode just came out, this was being hyped for a long time and it's still being lauded as a sakugafest, so it's a huge target for shitposters. Don't worry, they'll probably all leave in a few episodes.

>>148204642
Except Kyousogiga had different theming and never actually wanted to represent on screen what this one tried. Neither TV nor ONA.
I have no idea from where you got this comparison.

>>148204776
And still they shit on things like FSN UBW

>>148204622
I said weight and timing were descriptive terms to facets of animation. I never laid out a continuum for you to predict my taste, and your actual post betrays my love for surrealism -- which again, you couldn't have known because I never made it clear.

You contributed nothing, and you continue to contribute nothing.

Perhaps return to the source your misunderstanding rather than letting yourself drift away on what you "think you know"? I submitted the uselessness of the label sakuga. Now I will also purport the low intelligence and broken reasoning skills of those who use it.

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Exposed inner thigh, armpits and one toe. What is the purpose?

>>148204589
Thing is, you're calling the man a hack, he did a good job, he's not the best director around, sure, but you're an idiot.

>>148203812
This looks so bad. Fucking webgen

>>148204960
>webgen
Holy shit, can't this meme just die?

>>148203909
Dandy had a lot of shitposting, but it was fun show. This show so far only has bits of animation going for it - as a "show" its complete mess.

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Is Papika autistic?

>>148204850
But I'm not one of those sakugafags.

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>>148204919
>that buttfang

>>148205053
What did they mean by this?

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>Dandy showcases dozens of webgen animators
>"Dandy was great AOTY"
>FliFla showcases the same style of animation
>"fucking webgen, this is garbage, not realistic. kill yourselves sakugafags"

>muh traditional hand drawn animation drawn on paper folded over 1000 times

Sakugafags have worse autism than audiophilefags

>>148205053
>>148205087
Why does it look so bad?

>>148205139
Maybe because "webgen" wasn't as used back then, people apparently think they are smart for using it now and just force it whenever.

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The first 5 seconds of TO BE HERO still have the best animation so far. This season is really weak.

>>148205129
we furikuri now

>>148204951
Nothing in this episode "worked" or even "clicked together". Its a complete mess of different disjointed parts, not being to come together even in supposed action scenes.

I woudnt even call it a proper show - a showcase of some fancy animation, but even it is not put together well: the bits on themselves, look impressive, but put togethere are disjointed, different tempo, wildly differing in quality and not presenting a story well.

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>>148205148
Is there a meme I'm not getting or do people genuinely think this?

The things I'd do to papika.
This better be successful, I need good doujins.

>>148205139
>Dandy has talented director, good animation directors for episodes, and good episode directors and storyboarders that can use animation to deliver a point and able to utilize its strength
>FF looks like poor youtube MAD with jarring animation that jumps in quality and style within second

The art direction in the first episode is fucking stellar.
>that snow forrest

Also you know an anime is good when /a/ already starts hating it full force when the first episode has barely aired.

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>>148205145
Clearly you're too daft and uncultured to appreciate the artistic merits of the medium. Literally 2A[rtistic]4U.

>>148205240
They're going to call every aspect of it shit regardless

Please keep posting these

>>148205248
Do not sexual the mentally handicapped.

>>148205192
TO BE HERO is MOB 100% killer

>>148205216
Yeah, go and watch some 80s ova, otaking.

Grumpy old losers like you are what ruined every anime community.

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>>148205317
Oh I'll post them anyway. I was just wondering. I was looking forward to this show for months.

>just watched this
>it's looks great
How can anyone think this looks bad? Is it just >REEEE MOE IS RUINING ANIME shitters?

It's got great colors, great design, and a pretty fun, if seemingly aimless, story. A story doesn't have to follow a certain literary template to be good.

>>148205351
I don't think he's that kind of guy since 80's OVAs are the worst messes and the most guilty of being parts thrown together without joint

>>148205351
You should realize how sad the situation with this show is, when people who wanted to shitpost before it aired were comparing it to Rolling Girls, but now it turns out that would be too much praise for this show.

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>>148205192
Huh? That's just a company intro thing.

>it's Rolling Girls all over again
I wish shitposters would just leave AOTY alone.

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>>148205397
>REEEE
>>>/r9k/

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>>148203383
Can someone be honest with me and tell me if the show was any good? Because this is worst than pic related, and it kinda killing any intention I have to give it a try.

>>148204184
When Sakugafags talk about beautiful animation they talk about movement, though.

>>148204368
>implying you can't do both

this reminds me of jinrui and im hyped for the next ep

>already more shitposting than a code geass thread
That's how you know this anime is going to be fucking amazing.

>>148205216
It felt fresh and interesting.
>muh tired old cliches wheres muh cliches
get over it you autist.

>>148205467
ED had the same composer

>FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP

>>148205446
Yes, that is what I was implying. I was saying in a negative connotation, which should indicate I hate people who post like that hence the ">"

>>148205449
Honestly it looked pretty bad from the key visuals but the actual thing was much better.

>>148205449
>the show
The first episode just aired, and her face usually looks more 'normal'. Just watch it, it's fun.

sakuga was a mistake

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FLAP
FLIP
FLAP

>>148205510
What does it have to do with cliches? Its not like the episode wasnt stock full of them.

Its merely bad and unpreoffesional direction and animation supervision.

>>148205452
>implying you can't do both
That would be great, except it isn't happening. The sakuga autism is real.

>>148205240
Just look at it. It's all over the place, the art looks cheap and washed out, pathetic attempts at SYMBOLISM (only manages to look juvenile and pretentious), and a terrible choice of colors, which brings me back to the first point. Of course, the typical /a/utist cares only about the big-eyed ``cute'' girls and ignores everything else.

>>148205389
>I was looking forward to this show for months
How? I just learned of this today. Months ago I was following airing shows, like every season, which leaves no time for the future.

>>148205397
/a/ hates everything that excells and does a great job.
/a/ loves medicority, that's why the most popular shows here are bland isekai garbage.
Anything that stands out in a positive way makes those kind of /a/nons insecure about their own medicority, so they stick to bland, boring shit.
They are also the most vocal about people not being allowed to enjoy stuff they personally dont like for their own psychotic reasons.

/a/ has a terrible track record when it comes to taste

>>148204776
I studied classic animation, trying to get into 3D at the momement. I'm pretty bad and not familiar with lots of names, but I do enjoy sakuga discussions quite a lot. Sakugabooru is plenty of inspiration.

>>148204468
>animator without ANY directional experience
He's worked as an episode director before.

>>148205647
nice bait

>>148205651
>/a/ loves medicority, that's why the most popular shows here are bland isekai garbage
That isn't /a/, that's the crossposting cancer rooted deep within this board bandwagoning the newest seasonal show.

>>148205677
Didn't he basically do most of the work for a Space Dandy episode by himself?

>>148205657
There are a lot of better places to read, talk and think about animation. Sakugabooru is mostly a bunch of circlejerkers as for most of the sakuga community.

Okay so I just started this and it's absolutely fucking gorgeous.

Rumor has it that Mitsuo Iso is working on this under a penname. I would assume that's either very true, or the people doing this are absolutely brilliant.

Some of the action is breathtaking, and the girls are so incredibly sexy.

>>148205742
Yeah, wrote it, directed it, and did all the key animation. Really talented and dedicated guy.

>>148205651
I actually saw an anon say the other day "boring is better than annoying" which goes to show you that the average mentality of anons here is that something shouldn't stand out, because if it stands out it might not be perfect.

It's kind of ironic that a shitty japanese mentality would become prevalent on /a/.

>>148205791
Mind giving me links?

>>148205648
I don't know exactly when I saw the first thread about it, but it must have been at least half a year ago.

>>148205818
Yeah, it's like a breath of fresh air after last season.

Sadly, we won't be able to have good discussions about it for a couple weeks, because a bunch of faggots have to ruin everything for everyone.

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So was the slug monster part a Nausica tribute?

>>148205139
Dandy also aired simultaneously on Toonami (with a dub on top of that) and didn't have cute girls as the main character, so it attracted a gigantic number of normalfags. The same kind of person who's repulsed by a show focused on cute girls like this.

>>148204468
>Who though its good idea to let animator without ANY directional experience whatsoever direct the show?
Fresh blood.
That's also what this show feels like.
Something new and fresh without the smelly stench of tired old things we've seen a billion times.

>>148205900
The whole snow forest reminded me of Naussica.

>>148205883
Fuck that. This thread has great stuff, and it was started by a complete fag.

We'll do it right next time and it will be even better.

>>148204919
Papika lewds when?

>>148205651
Great opinion anon, now let's rewatch Re:Zero again

For the who still cant grasp the core of complaint about this, theres a simple example

Yatterman Night ep1 - good directed, good animated, good animation consistency

Kill la kill ep 1 - good direction, bad animation, good animation and artstyle consistency

Flip Floppers ep 1 - horribly directed, good animated, bad animation and artstyle consistency

How does snow taste?

>that shot of them walking in the forrest
pure kino

>>148205900
Almost certainly. Oshiyama really likes Miyazaki, if his Space Dandy episode is anything to go by.

>>148205991
Learn english first you monkey.

>>148206000
wet
>>148206006
>>>/tv/

>>148205847
catsuka anipages animation blogs

>>148203894
>shota
Now THIS is the reason to drop.
Thanks for warning. Dropped with the force of a thousand suns, and kicked my dog so hard her leg broke.

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>>148205304
>jarring animation that jumps in quality and style within second
So, it's just like Dandy?

>>148205909
see >>148204685

There are plenty of animators that became directors. Doesnt mean every animator is ready to become one. Most gain lots of experience - storyboarding, directing, assisting and superwising before they are even let near serious project themselves.

>>148206000
Is cold and refreshing, I recommend it but not when others are looking

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>>148206052
>and kicked my dog so hard her leg broke
Now that was just unnecessary.

>>148206094
Maybe the issue is you.
I found it to be very enjoyable.

If you need still images of dutch-angle windows with people talking over it and cicadas in the background you need to go back to the 90s for your masterwork direction.

>>148205139
FliFla has an emphasis on cute girls, of course more of /a/ is going to watch it (and therefore shit on it).

>>148206050
Oh, I knew about those. Sadly I'm here more often than any other site, that sometimes I forget

>>148206144
do a screencap of the reactionshot when they look at the pulsating brain

>>148206144
What can I do? Frustration manifests without thinking about it, and she was close to me.
Fuck you Flip Floppers.

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>>148206200

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>>148206200
Here you go, lazy bones.

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>>148206052
See you next week.

>>148206185
/a/ is sometimes good too

Sakugabooru and its guys is really too concerned about erm I don't know what but the best term to describe'em would be circlejerk, too much for my taste at least even if there're good discussions once in a while.

>>148205991
I don't really see any of those complaints in the show.

>>148205139
People don't care about that kind of shit back then. The mindset of the "hardcore" anime watcher was studio dicksucking. Knowing which was which was the thing that made them "better" than "entry level" watchers, spouting buzzwords and the like.

Now that everyone on /a/ and their mothers know which studio is which, what their quirks and habits are, the poser "hardcore" watchers are mouthing off about sakuga now. Notice how many buzzwords are used more when talking about sakuga recently compared to a few years back, when there discussion on it was seldom.

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>>148205991
>Yatterman Night ep1 - good directed, good animated, good animation consistency
>mfw remembered that show shits the bed on every aspect during final episode

The butthurt this show has caused is completely fucking alien to me

Why this show of all things? What about this has a big fat shitpost target painted on it? I don't understand.

The anal devastation seems unimaginable but I can't figure out why.

So if this is Hansel and Gretel, who's the witch?

>>148206279
The problem with the sakugabooru guys is they are all way too concerned about fitting in and being cool by liking the show chosen by the most popular members as the best of the season that none of them are willing to voice another opinion for fear of being mocked or ousted. So yeah it just ends up a bunch of people all circlejerking over the same shit each season to try to impress upon each other how much they know about animation.

>>148206341
Back then? in 2014 you mean? anime community that sure has changed since!!!

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I really liked it
Am I the only one? Why so hate?

>>148206381
It's because this show was fun

>>148205139
The animation is comparable but that's where it ends. I struggled to get through the jumbled mess of an episode.

>>148206256
>shorts literally so short his testicles are on the erge of showing
No, this kind of shota fetishization is not right.
Shota shit fucked up another series, good for them. And they wonder why shit like this always flops.

>>148206381
>hey guys look at this sakuga
>THIS ANIMATION DOESN'T PLEASE ME
And then all sakugafags got angry.

>>148206381
It's because you disgusting subhumans belong to /u/. Fuck off with your garbage artsy fartsy faggot shows.

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Seems like getting getting sent to the Pure Illusion can be fatal if you're not properly attuned. Papika was also overjoyed that Cocona survived the trip.

>>148206341
>People don't care about that kind of shit back then.
What? People were talking about this shit on anipages and production ig forum ages ago. It is just that only recently people on /a/ have started talking about it as much. /a/ just didn't represent the "hardcore" community back then and for the most part it doesn't now, just knowing about and appreciating animators has become more mainstream.

Keijo is better animated

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>>148206423
Autists don't know what fun is.

>>148206414
Yeah that's the feeling. kVin himself isn't such a bad guy I guess but I don't know why he has so much influence, and his tweets come to be some kind of sakuga guide to people. I sure like when he posts nice smears though.

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>>148206341

>>148206239
>>148206252
thanks

>>148206423
No plenty of people loved it, check out
>>148192780
almost entirely positive comments when the show was released and airing. This is just a shitposting thread.

>>148205139
Dandy was a pile of shit garbage, geared towards the braindead layer of americans, that only casual faggots and kids like.
FliFla on the other hand was at least tolerable.

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>>148206423
Not at all anon
I absolutely loved it. The music, themes, art direction and animation and characters. I'm really looking forward to future episodes

I can only hope the hate dies down in a few weeks

>>148206499
>evil nazi organization opens a portal big enough to send the whole school through
>everyone dies
calling it now

>>148206381
Original shows that attract niche-but-vocal fanbases are easy targets for trolling. This one attracts both /u/ and sakugafags, so it's really asking for it.

>>148206381
Because its pretty and unique.
/a/ is like a fat nerd who only likes the same stale shit over and over.
Also lots of jelly from "animation experts"

>>148206568
now this is a unique shitpost
thank you

>>148206603
Who cares in the end, they put in shota fetishization, nip otaku will drop it so it will flop like how it deserves.
Good job faggots.

>>148206501
By people, I meant the mainstream of course.

Also, "hardcore" was in brackets. There has always been the legit people of course, but by that I meant the posers who talk shit here to big themselves up, now that appreciating animators are getting into the mainstream anime fandom, as you said. The kind of attitude you'd find on certain sites.

I want to ravage papika's pussy

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>this thread

>>148206482
>admitting your shit taste in regards to art
Go back to your Re:zero general and leave the worthwhile shows to us.

>>148206608
>shitpost
Is the truth.
Space Dandy sold like shit, /a/ aside from the reddit kind of normalfags didn't even bother watching it, but then there's the kids who crawled from where the fuck ever who praise it to no end.
They are easy to spot and very evident they're casual kids.

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Filp Floppers animation is so dull, flat and uninspired if I'm being honest.

>>148206566
I haven't read all of it but it seems somewhat mixed for valid concerns like an inexperienced director and uncoordinated first episode, although most are in agreement it looked nice which I still think is the consensus in this thread.

>>148206551
>KVin himself isn't such a bad guy
Oh boy

>>148206482
>/u/
Nothing to do with this.
Girls and general yuri in non-shoujo works are the clearest cut otaku catering.
Because hetero males like it. Obviously faggots like you will get assblasted about.

>>148206499
It's really hard to get a read on where this show is going. It feels like there could be some real storybook dark places, or it could just avoid that entirely.

>>148206715
People were only really talking about the director before it aired when nobody had even seen it. Not one mention after the stream of a director or subs were released. I bet a lot of people complaining now are the same.

>>148206681
>this
>better than Re:Zero
Thanks for confirming you are a fucking retard. Contrarian faggot-loving subhuman, that's what you are. Fuck off with your garbage show already.

>>148206741
>no self-insert
>virtually no males
>all the girls are strong-willed genki dipshits
Yea, nah, this is lesbian catering.

>>148206682

>They like something I dislike
>Must be reddit

You're a fag

I can't see why anyone would like Space Dandy unless

A) You don't like episodic shows

Or

B) You're programmed to hate anything that gets popular in the west

>>148206725
Not the guy you are talking to but from reading his tweets and his writing he doesn't seem bad, could be a complete cunt within the community though to other people where we don't see it on twitter or whatever.

>>148206796

Yeah I'm sure Japan's massive lesbian population--as shown in muh doujins--was the primary target audience for this work

Man, I'm a bit jealous looking at Yuri on Ice threads now. Guess I gotta stay out of the threads for a couple days.

Man, why do shows with dudes gets little to no shitposters. It's not fair.

>>148206725
Not him, but what's wrong with him exactly? Other than maybe having more influence than he should and sounding a bit pretentious, he seems to be fine. From what little I know at least.

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>>148206796
you seem really upset about people with taste disliking your precious MAL """masterpiece"""
you should probably keep your terrible opinions confined to the designated Re:Zero containment threads, no one else will agree with you

>>148206793
I guess there's no objective way to tell. I suspect this will be one of the shows with some quality discussion in the post-airing threads and then shitposting the rest of the week. I'd like to have my initial impressions improved and I'm definitely not going to drop it yet but it could honestly go either way.

>>148206725
Am I wrong? I don't know him that well, I can't bear him but that's just because he and his surroundings are as described earlier.

>>148206659
I don't know, the problem is like in any arts that there are different levels of appreciation. The more knowledgeable people about cinema always act high and mighty and the pleb consider them as snob, as they don't really understand their point of view. The cinephiles, so to say, also consider the plebs to have shit taste (to say the truth, even if they don't tell it that way).

Same thing is emerging for animation I guess, it was always a kind of niche, professional understanding of things, but now with the sakuga highlights in the community people are starting to talk like they know their shit... when they have a one-sided views on things. The truth is, there's plenty of valid opinions but you shouldn't take yours for the superior one. I know it's hard though.

>>148203383
So this is going to be the nice show with the fucking horrible threads that I never visit this season, huh?

Wait, /a/ has ecelebs now?

Fucking make a conatinment board for that shit already before it spreads any farther and we get threads about Demolition D's health problems or something

>>148203909
The first few Dandy threads were pretty horrible but they got better over time.

>>148206682
Plenty of the people who praise Space Dandy are doing so because of the names involved in the project and the quality of work they produced, the complete opposite of being casual. Although plenty of casuals did like it too. People who know a lot more about anime than the majority of /a/ posters.

This was pretty boring, the EDOTY at least.

>>148206887
>Man, why do shows with dudes gets little to no shitposters. It's not fa
Not even shitposters are willing to watch gay shit despite the fact it'd be much easier to shitpost (though they might also get less attention unless they get creative).

>>148206957
Who is the e-celeb? kVin? No most people on /a/ won't even know what that is. He just came up because we were discussing sakugabooru.

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>>148206796
Re:Zero is objectively the worst show of the year. No redeemable aspects, just nothing. Only crossposting shitters like yourself hold it to any degree above pure and utter shit.

>>148203909

That was every thread for the first few weeks

That was the first time I ever saw the phrase "forced animation" used unironically, about the running scene in the first episode.

>>148206957
>Demolition D's health problems
What are his health problems?

>>148206887
>why do shows with dudes gets little to no shitposters
Instead they get tumblr shitnoses. Just look at what happened to threads like Free, Osomatsu or Mob100.

>>148206887
Because people who like gay shit are used to being constantly shit on so shitposting doesn't work as well and they don't have dedicated autists who spend all their time bitching about yurifags on /a/..

>>148207091
He's fucking dead

Hating on shows with young animators is popular on /a/, because now it's people in the same age group making anime, which is incredibly frustrating for procrastinating neets.

>>148207039

Dat hyperbole

If it wasn't popular you'd claim the worst show was Kanbari or whatever the fuck the next most popular thing is.

>>148207132
Explain further.

>>148206937
Well if you do a Ctrl+F for director you can see that the majority of mentions are right at the start when people were concerned about the director being relatively inexperienced, just like weeks before airing. I suspect at least some of the people hating on the direction now are just picking on those critcisms. In my opinion the direction wasn't stellar or inspirational or brilliant and some breakthrough new style but it was competent and served its purpose.

>>148206780
And either outcome is perfectly acceptable, it's great when a show sets itself up like that, you just don't know what to expect.

>>148205397
>seemingly aimless, story.
The story seemed pretty obvious.
>Multiple groups of people searching for ways to get into Pure Illusion for those gems
>If you're not attuned to go into Pure Illusion then you die
>papika & group were searching for quite a while
>papika's group decided to test cocona to she if she's attuned or whatever when the two encountered
>papika, aside from her general genkiness, was overjoyed when they actually got into Pure Illusion

The worst thing is that Cocona didn't question it enough, although she seemed like the exploring type from how she decided to go into the one storage area, so it could be rationalized.
The show is supposed to be silly, obviously so you can't expect the characters to act realistically, it'll be a good watch regardless.

>>148206948
>The truth is, there's plenty of valid opinions but you shouldn't take yours for the superior one. I know it's hard though

That's the thing right. This is /a/. My opinion is objectively right and yours is shit, fuck you.

>>148207105
It's just people gushing over dudes instead of girls. Not much different really.

>>148207128
Yurifags really need to learn to ignore shitposting the way fujos do. Seriously. Izetta threads were filled with people biting bait left and right.

>>148207175
His last upload was like months ago. Demo died, man.

>>148207091

I don't fucking know and I don't want to, that's the point. I don't want us to end up like /v/ with months of threads about that one guy's ass cancer or all those others about egoraptor's girlfriend.

/a/ never changes. Its not the shitposters that are problem every season, its the Zealots.

They will disappear eventually, but until some point will defend any hyped anime until retardation

>>148206341
I do agree, lately anime has been getting a lot more attention and getting analyzed a lot more, there's just a lot more information available about the whole thing works.

>claim to be sakuga fag
>shit on Yuri on Ice
does not compute

>>148207260

The shitposters could just hide the thread and let them jerk themselves into a coma, but no

Also can someone link me to the Prod I.G. forum? Can't seem to find it on the .com website.

>>148206707
>add speedlines everywhere
>get praised for good animation
Every time.

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>>148207132
Damn.
>he'll be next

>>148207299
Who is doing that? Only see one mention of it in the thread and it just said they are jealous it isn't getting shitposted like this.

>>148207215
It doesn't even matter if yurifags reply because the anti-/u/ posters will just keep shitting up threads on their own. I have no idea what got this autism started in the first place.

>>148207284
Yeah but those people don't care. They care but don't care.

Some people are getting fascinated by animation with sakuga, and that's good, but some people just like to watch.

Those watchers care less than the wannabe makers (born from the hype, or before).

The makers are making a big deal out of it, when the watchers appreciate it on a more superficial level I guess, there's less nuance to their appreciation.

>>148207260
No, the real problem is the yurishitters.

>>148207333
It doesn't exist anymore.

>>148207484
People are saying Keijo is shit too. rightly so

>>148207484
Best 1st episode of the season was this show in my opinion. Entertaining, fun, colourful, fun characters, some great animation, nice art style and backgrounds.

>>148207484
By this point you should just stop visiting threads for anything that isn't obscure. The only threads that aren't shit are the ones where barely anyone visits.

Non-shitposting thread when?

>>148207551
It wasn't as good as Yuri, but it was probably better than the other 4/5 of the other shows I've watched.

So lets just summ it up:
Its a show with great potential.
It has parts with great animation (also truly great bits are rare, and big part of them in episode were from PV already)
It has parts with poor animation.
It is not well directed.
The music is ok.
The story is intriguing, but so far presentation is a mess, though that ups the intrigue a bit.
The characters are nice.
The artstyle of backgrounds is great.
The ED is best of the season.
The show is not really original nor "refreshing", its secondary to similar works (which isnt a bad thing) and yet to present its own originality
The pace is mess (both too slow and too fast)
The show is enjoyable to different degre depending on expectations and personal preferences
Critizism of the show does not mean the show is shit

>>148207484
When the Keijo episode came out people were saying it was awful.
And people shitposting here will usually avoid obviously "bad" shows (I haven't watched Keijo but it actually looks fun so I won't judge people for it, still won't watch though), they for those with some potential and/or popularity and just nitpick.

>>148207214
>The story seemed pretty obvious.
Yeah I know, but /a/ is full of autists who think something is "pretentious garbage" if it doesn't give them 5 minutes of exposition.

>>148207604
Never. Come back mid-season and hope they've all gotten bored. This is one of those shows where they decided they'd shitpost about it before they even saw it.

>>148207645
>The music is ok.
The first track was top tier.

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>>148207338
>Make low quality web gen animation
>Get shit on for low quality web gen animation

Every time

>>148207645
>The ED is best of the season.
This is the only thing I'd disagree with simply because it's too soon to say otherwise spot on.

>>148207611

Not that guy, but the only reason I'm putting this over Yuri is since I could never get the hype of figure skating. Personal top 5 right now would be Flip/Yuri/BBK/To be Hero/Tiger Mask.

>>148207645
>It has parts with poor animation.
Didn't notice any outright bad animation in the context of anime generally, there was animation you would expect from any normal show though in the less important parts.
>It is not well directed.
I think the direction was perfectly competent although far from outstanding.
>so far presentation is a mess
Disagree. I think the way the story was presented was simple and straightforward.
>The pace is mes
The pacing was deliberately varied to good effect.

That's all I have got to disagree with there. I don't think I can argue it was particularly original.

That was a pleasant experience. Seems like one of those shows were shit will go down pretty hard around ep 6-8 though.

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>>148207645

>The ED is the best of the season

Second best

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No fun allowed.

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>>148207604
It's too good for that

FLIP
FLAP
FLIP
FLAP

Are you a bad enough dude to post in Flip Flappers threads?

>>148207772

That's not even that bad, you could have cherrypicked a much worse inbetween.

You just gotta push through the shitposters. Can't let them win. It's not fun but you have to do it.

>>148207709
This is so vain excuse, used every single time.

/a/ doesnt "hate" cool stuff or hyped show. Popular shows get a lot of shitposting, but despite that /a/ usually is pretty solid about enjoying them despite it: be it Madoka, KlK, Hibike, Yuri on Ice, ReZero, whatever works that actually gain traction despite the shitposting (and this goes as far as Index, with people claiming their "insert name" generic shows arent popular and /a/ hates on popular stuff when /a/ was all over generic stuff like Index or IS)

So, no, the show is by no means in category "so good /a/ shits on it" - that would be Yuri on Ice this season. The show is in category "hyped but meh so far with zealout fanbase" - like Kabaneri, Rolling Girls, Mekakushi etc.

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Argue all you want, this show is a lot of fun to watch. The colorfulness and music help drive home the fantasy aspect of the show and I'm looking forward to the next episode.

>>148207886
Man, the first episode of Tiger Mask W was great. Toei better not fuck this up.

>>148203771
Nah, it just looks like shit. It tries to be Space Dandy but the animator just can't do it.

Sakugafags need to fuck off back to sucking yuyucow's dick.

>>148207604
Like so many shows that have gone before it, being a great show attracts more shitposters than anything else. Garbage shows get no shitposts, good shows get some shitposts, but an excellent show will get a landslide of shitposts. It's almost a compliment when this many people on /a/ shitpost about a series.

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It's a promising start. The art is very consistent and the designs are sexy, especially Papika's outfit.

The story felt pretty aimless for a first episode though, maybe it's not a great choice to have Cocona the only one that's not an air head.

I've seen a shitton of people complaining about sakugafags in this thread, but almost no actual sakugafags.

Unless you count people who don't think the show is shit as zealot sakugafags or some shit.

>>148208052
>It tries to be Space Dandy
You mean that this is the work of a webgen animator? That isn't something exclusive to Space Dandy you know. You can find the same style of animation in plenty of other shows. Birdy Decode, Yozakura Quartet, Yoru no Yatterman for example. There is probably a good chance that animator worked on Space Dandy even.

>>148208076
This is the true reason. A beautiful show with an inspiring message will always attract ire from (((people))) who wish to destroy beauty and ruin the experience for others.

Evidence of this is right here >>148207965
>"so good /a/ shits on it" - that would be Yuri on Ice this season.
He wants to subvert beauty by encouraging you to watch literal gayshit.

This will be the tactic all season long, I imagine.

>>148207909
Does the net go in front of Cocona?

>>148208037

Oh, they'll fuck it up, no question.

I just hope it takes them a while to do it

>>148208151
I think some people are confused as well because this guy >>148207909 seems to be implying it is sakugafags who are hating it? I don't know.

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I missed a stitch earlier.

>>148208205
They had no reserve with shoddily animating Super from the start. I want to believe the quality of the first episode is going to be indicative of, or close to, the quality for the rest of Tiger Mask.

Appli Monsters didn't look too shabby in the first episode either. Toei, please.

>>148208309
chimney?

>>148208224
>>148208151
You're both off the mark.

"Sakuga" is merely a label that helps you search for shit. When you use it as a term on /a/ (even to say "sakugafag"), you are participating in the culture born from it, which is being thoroughly rejected as pointless drivel.

Want to talk about animation? Describe it with real language. Want to look up cuts from Japanese animators? Search "Sakuga" in appropriate engines.

>>148208309
The twins are plain copys from the multiple manga. I bet they are easily lost, both are autist with male being more retard but both thinking themselves incredibly smart and constantly hurt by animals.

>>148207886

OP's better. Thought that's probably since I've got a huge hard on for remade original songs.

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Which one is the main character?

>>148208366
I'm not entirely sure what your point is supposed to be. Sakugafags as used on /a/ is for the most part, when people use it, describing the western sakuga community formed around sakugabooru I believe and the kinds of attitudes those people tend to have.

>>148208224
The point is that all the faggots arguing about animation and in-betweens which kills the thread.

>>148203889
>the
>colour
>palette
>is
>dull

what DID he m ean b y this?

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I can't believe veteran animators are working in this show. All of the webms I've seen so far lack weight and timing.

It really makes you think how KyoAni in-house animators can go toe to toe against the entire industry.

>>148208469
Oh right. People are bound to argue when people are calling something they think is good bad regardless of who they are and the subject. If people weren't arguing about animation they would be arguing about the story or the direction. The only reason it is centred around animation is because people had expectations for the animation. It isn't just sakugafags who care about animation and you can tell that by how ignorant some of the comments are in this thread.

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>>148208445
The point is clearly stated

>Want to talk about animation? Describe it with real language. Want to look up cuts from Japanese animators? Search "Sakuga" in appropriate engines.

As far as your point: Why would you want to describe the western sakuga community around sakugabooru? You think you can get away with that? Do you honestly think it's acceptable to post drama from MAL/ANN/Reddit here?

Serious question. I don't want to know how you developed into such an enormous faggot. What I would like to know is why you're still here? I can't be the first to have told you to fuck off.

So I guess everyone here is watching this for the animation, because I'm half-way through the episode and already bored out of my fucking mind. This is Glasslip-tier of boring.

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>>148208517

>>148208566
>It really makes you think how KyoAni in-house animators can go toe to toe against the entire industry.
It's because they actually have stable positions and get paid a wage. Every other studio basically hires people per frame/page and have mostly freelancers per project instead of regular reoccurring staff who work on multiple projects.

>>148208607
That and the hope there's something interesting going on here that's just going to take a few extra episodes to work out.

>>148208592
Probably been here since before you knew 4chan existed to be honest. I am just telling you what people mean when they say that because you are either actually oblivious or pretending to be. They are referring to a group of people in the western anime community who place a higher value on animation in shows, production and knowing animators names and styles. People use it as a term like "yurifags" or "fujoshits".

It is pretty common thing to do as a way to characterise a group of people with particular interests. Is your problem that the term sakuga has been appropriated into a shorthand descriptor for a certain type of anime fan?

>>148208748
Fuck off, retard.

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Why does Cocona where a fucking watch?

She has a fucking phone you retard.

>>148208911
You can't pull out your phone in class.

>>148208969
>you can't use a phone in class

I don't know what podunk assbackwards country you're from, but in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd world countrys classrooms have clocks in them.

>>148208876
>make sensible post discussing the point
>fuck off, retard

You know people have used the term sakugafag on /a/ for many years right? I can remember seeing it back at least as early as 2010 when busterbeam was posting perhaps even before. You might just see it more commonly now with the interest in sakuga rising.

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>>148203383
Check the catalog for this season's real animation masterpiece.

https://my.mixtape.moe/sepvnv.webm

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>>148209003
Their classroom has this dumb timer instead of a real clock.

wtf did i just watch?

is this yuri or an acid trip?

>>148209116
?Porque no los dos?