Sakuga Thread / 作画を語るスレ

>>147278592
>Guide:
>backlink to last thread
No, stop that.
Generals are cancer.

>>147278592
Just keep your shit in IRC.

>mob psycho is the best animated show since space dandy
>flip flappers might top it
Nice.

www.dailymotion.com/video/x4tfcom

Mitsuru Chiba

www.youtu.be/R__JDGLqGfY

Tetsuya Takeuchi on this

anyone going to Scotland to see Koe no Katachi ?

>>147279089
I wish.

>>147278592
OP good job, I like how you included the guide for everyone.

>>147278912
nice fire sfx animation

>>147278927
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R__JDGLqGfY&feature=youtu.be
Might be interesting but not feeling the Shingo adachi like character designs.

http://yurionice.com/news/detail.php?id=1040391

Yuri!!! On Ice advanced screening, September 25th.

anyone here that actually draw animation ? what kind of equipment did you use ? I'm interested especially in digital animation.

Should I use advanced software like Flash / TV Paint or flipbook is enough for complete beginner with zero experience like me ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWloHuU9ajs

That one looks hella good.

we /skgg/ now lads

or should I learn to draw anatomy first just like what Richard Williams said in his book ?

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1548668

kek

>>147279620
Well, can't go wrong with the fundamentals.

>>147279492
Anime in 3d in Cinema 4D and then filter it to 2D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSNVUDA5v0

>>147279158
Probably will only look good in the first and last episodes.

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>>147279711
The cancer has metastasized.

>>147279492
I use Easytoon and Tvpaint.

http://www.flat2d.com/easytoon/Downloading.aspx

Small but simple and works well

>>147278912
The effects animation in the PV could be Chiba's own work. It looks a lot like his/her work in the Maken-ki 2 finale.

>>147279711
awww that's painful to read.

>>147279620
Do both, learn fundamentals when practicing your sketches and just draw stick figures or equivalent when practicing motion.

Why is sakuga community so shitty

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>>147282172
Because sakuga was a mistake.

>>147282219
ISO was a mistake

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anyone have useful chart from old archive like this ?

>more Berserk

ayy, kViN on suicide watch

>>147283306
What is it? The best animation of their era?

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>>147283606
Influence chart

>>147279492
Flash is shit (unusable brush tool)

TV Paint is okay (crack it)

>>147284048
what kind of pen tablet recommended ? are the cheap ones okay ?

>>147284099
I have a common Wacom Bamboo (~100$ or less), but there's a nice guide on /ic/ about that (never tried the cheap ones they recommend though, but it seems okay through their testimonies).

>>147283049
It's okay, he's irrelevant now.

>>147284164
okay, thanks for the advice.

>>147284872
Btw I read your post a bit fast but flipbook is okay to get a feel for it I guess, you can wait to buy the tablet

I thought you were talking about a real flipbook (which would be fine too but a bit limited)

>>147284978
Now I thought you were talking about flipnote so I still didn't got it.

Flipbook isn't quite practical, better crack TVpaint if you're gonna buy a tablet

If you have a 3DS try flipnote first, if you have a (not pen) tablet, like ipad, see if there's an animation app or something and try to make a diy stylus

https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/776512670446911489

We mainstream now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8S-Sx-mJXk

>>147285239
Disney's best 2D animators never fail to impress. Why don't Japanese animation studios use those slanted desks? Looks a lot more ergonomic than the normal ones that force animators to hunch over.

https://twitter.com/9iurouS1muM1FMn

why this guy mostly only worked on douga ? is it because people find him will be difficult if he's promoted to genga ? (because he seems to be huge Ohira fanboy?).

やはり時代はアイドルアニメーターか…

>>147284099
wacom are kind of standard though if you're on the cheap get Huion tablet.

I've got CTH-480 from wacom and the H610Pro from Huion both decent in my eyes and can do the job for digital animation else paper and pencils "2B".

>>147285436
He's probably just new, give him time. If fellow Ohira follower Toya Oshima can do regular KA, I don't see why this guy can't.

>>147285886
Wouldn't H, 2H, etc be better for the clean lines needed in animation?

Also a light table or something, at least, would be useful.

>>147285905
But I think he's been too long for doing that.
Even I can't feel a thing from his recent output on Mob. It feels like he wants to be Ohira MK.II but people restrain him because it could be difficult to handle (in many ways).

>>147285954
Not really H or 2H, from experience with a cheap china LED lightbox. You would like to have darker pencil shades so you can see the lineart from the previous layer with it maxing out around 3-4 layers.

One thing important for clean lineart is that your pencil is sharp and of a good quality.The rest is your own drawing prowess.

I recommend 2B Mitsubishi Uni/Hi-uni else get a 2B Staedtler Mars lumograph

>>147286159
I can't imagine a production like Mob restricting the creative output of its animators. Maybe he's not fast enough to animate in Ohira style on a TV schedule? Anyway, it's great to see another Ohira follower. It's a very interesting approach to animation.

>>147286315
Yeah you might be right.

Do you know if "pegs" to attach the sheets are necessary on a DIY situation or you can replace them with something else?

>>147285608
Ummm for me I just leave it as it is, though I guess you could staple it near the top to make it like a pseudo-peg/clamp.

I do more detail drafting/linework on paper but for most of animation practice, I try to use tablet since it's quicker for setting up everything and checking the motion of the cut after drawn. I'm still kind of new at it.

>>147285239
This is one legit situation where you can call out forced animation.

>>147287393
You're too used to limited animation.

The first two pokemon generation shorts are out but no staff credits yet.

>>147287673
It's beyond a question of full/limited, animation can be full without being that exaggerated and goofy. See Le Roi et l'Oiseau and early Toei douga).

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Friendly reminder that Kouno-chan is no longer pure and you're a cuck

>>147288050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHxZpk_hvJA

Episode 1 is well animated.

>>147283049
>>147284831
>the shit that killed him was the slide show known as dennou coil
If anything sakuga Iso wasn't the mistake, director Iso was.

Sakuga thread is behind the animators who are good at mechanical things.

>>147288323
Disney animation isn't often overly exaggerated though. Looney Tunes fits that category more.

>>147278592
On what basis are you hyping up flip floppers ? Is it a remake of Hakenden directed by Nakamura with Yuasa, Iso, Okiura, Ohira and Utsunomiya given each an episode ?

>>147288728
It's Kiyotaka Oshiyama's series director debut and Takashi Kojima is the main animator. There are rumours about Iso being involved with the project as well.

>>147288624
>slide show
>Dennou Coil
Surely you jest.

>>147282172
they only care about animation

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山田尚子 is cute! CUTE! (*^_^*)

>>147288845
That's not Yamada.

>>147288884
this is yamada ya dweeb.

>>147288845
BASED ADENOID

Is this the general circlejerk?

>>147289090
Yes, welcome. Feel free to namedrop your favorite animators.

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who /YamadaClub/ here?

>>147289530
Shinkai>Yamada

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>>147289530
omg i can fap to this adenoid bitch all day.

So anything that's not posted here https://sakuga.yshi.org/post
isn't well animated?

>>147289530
BASED YAMADA

>>147289578
Shinkai is OVERRATED as fuck.
his jap face makes me puke, creepier than the guy from "The 40 Year Old Virgin".
i wish he would retire right now.

新兄も絶賛
http://imgur.com/FAWd8BJ.jpg

東大卒も絶賛
大久保清朗 Kiyoaki Okubo ‏@kiyoakiokubo · 8月25日
山田尚子『聲の形』。素晴らしすぎて大今良時の原作を一気読みしてしまった。
距離の取り方が分からない幼年期の残酷さ、取り方を覚えようとする青春期の過酷さ。
それを繊細にすくい上げる。アニメファンを越えて多くの人に見てほしい映画。

ぱぴぱぴ体操
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsePmX6VIAAj-Ub.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsePnDPUIAAH7h-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsePnoQUEAIDcAe.jpg

みんなでパピコを応援しよう
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrwhhyJUsAAkthY.jpg
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsTValOUIAA0QxB.jpg

>>147290382
translate this into english. help me sakuga-anon.

>no webms
Nice "image board" you got here.

>>147290444
ignore it
this post is yamafags from 2ch's sakga thread

http://mint.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1474044611/
http://mint.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1474027649/

>>147278859
Probably not but it will look good nonetheless. When Mob is finished it will have like 120 entries on booru. Even if not all of them are that amazing its still a fucking impressive number. Would be cool if Flipfloppers can come close to it.

I am so fucking upset about dinsey stopping 2d animation, the best of disney or american animation as a whole from decades ago is still better than any stuff japanese people can put out. Just look at the fluidity of the Fleisher Superman adaptation.

>>147288776
That doesnt mean anything if all these animators named will only be doing a few cuts. They are probably running out of steam by episode 4 and then come back every now and then with nice sakuga.

>>147293035
well maybe this is the wrong thread and wrong board for (You).
>>>>/co/

>>147293735
Westerners dont do it how they used to, only japanese sakuga can satisfy my hunger for 2d animation. I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise.

What do you guys think about the French Tv series Wakfu. How did they acheive this high level of animation in a 50episode long series. Was it done with cgi or some tweening software. It even tops most anime in recent years. Sadly the direction, choreo and character designs suck, cant really feel the impact of the hits.

>>147294167
I saw like an episode, the tweening of it threw me off a bit. It's smooth yet static, feels like characters don't have any dimensionality/free degree of motion in their world.

Feels like watch a paper mario anime in my opinion.

>>147289530
fuck off to your kyoanus circlejerk thread

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>>147294038
>I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise.
The problem is even if America doesn't do traditional animation anymore the countries that still do have the same habits that drive me up a wall with anime. Tons of clearly cgi shit clashing with the hand drawn visuals.

The west used to be very careful and very deliberate to sneak cgi into traditionally animated features (and hollywood very very deliberate about cgi combined with traditional vfx). These days fuck it who cares if it clearly looks pooped out of a pc.

>>147296084
>that moses movie
Yea its a really sad state in the world of animation for 2d fans, i wonder what i would do if Japan stopped producing 2d anime and went completely CGI. A part of me would probably die with it.

>>147296084
>>>/co/

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>>147296864
Why? The point of the post was conflating the issues facing both Japanese and Western animation as largely the same (with the exception of America where it's actually just dead).