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New episode in around 19 hours.

Mikumo will save the day with Messer.
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Preview
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>>141816530
SHINPI
H
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N
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Walkure vidya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAOa0j6Ak7Q
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>>141816530
I'll cum inside Mikumo
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>>141816637
You'll do nothing of the sort.
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>>141816629
Kaname's VA is so ugly.
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>>141816712
kaname is ugly too
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>>141816709
I can
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>>141816530
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http://girigiri.love/
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UTA WA
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>>141816823
But you will refrain from doing it.
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>>141816867

GENKI!
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>8 épisodes and no one died
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkkqAAyaeNw
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>>141817397
Messer killed the fun.
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>>141817397
Bellri died
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>search for new stuff on Twitter
>get this
We Hikari Tower now!
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>>141817440
Is there anymore video's from the live performance?
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>>141817517
Stahp! Ur Traumatizing meh!
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>>141817440
Something is lacking

A dancing Hayate
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Love
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>>141817517
>MakuLoss
>Lyrics of GiriGiri AI parodied
My sides
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>>141817517
disgusting.
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>>141817517
Which one is the tightest?
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>>141817517
ONAHO WA SHINPI
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>>141817804
Seems to be Mikumo
Freyja an experienced middle aged women confirmed
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>>141816557
>hitting a girl
since they are all going to die young anyway, they are trying to pile up as many death flags as they can on the way. clever
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>>141819022
That's a zentradi, not a girl.
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>>141816629
Who is the fatty wearing the yellow dress?
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>>141819091
>>141816712
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>>141816598
Why do people keep repeating this? Does it sound funny in English?
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>>141819022
Mirage doesn't count.
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>>141817517
> Hikari Tower
What about Reiko Yaminoma?
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>>141816557
Theo's got an abrasion on his face.
Looks like they're just butthurt because their superior Windemerian physiques couldn't save them from getting clocked in the face.
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>>141820556
That's not an abrasion, it's a tattoo (and both of them have one)
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>>141817517
Wait, so Mikumo has organic design and the Freija one is more, like, industrial-esque? Something to think about
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>>141821139

I think one is a vagigu and the other is an anusaru.
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Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR-jPbNCBPE
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>>141817397
what about the russian windemerean
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>>141821674
New hotness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nfweteZck
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>>141821845
>omitting Reirei
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>>141821845
Wow, this video highlights Freyja and Mikumo's harmonization. Their synchronization is crazy!
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What was everyones first impression of Mikumo's hair? And what theories did you guys have about it at first, without any prior knowledge of protoculture theories etc?
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>>141822777
Android has been the most popular theory. Which doesn't make any sense since machines shouldn't be able to generate biological fold waves.
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>>141822777
Generic anime hair.
Almost all anime girl's haircuts are either impossible or extremely hard to maintain and would never be used in daily life.
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>>141822777
That she is from Windermere.
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>>141822777
Freyja could be descirbed as being Jonathan Joestar, while Mikumo is moe Joseph Joestar.
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>>141821845
what are those eerie sounds in the background at around 2:10
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>>141822777
It's anime so it didn't surprise me.
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>>141822777
>What was everyones first impression of Mikumo's hair?
I still think it is the adult form of green's space octopus
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>>141822777
That I want to see her strap Frejya down with her tentacle hair and rape her with a giant futa cock made of hair...
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>>141816530
I can't believe that much smug fits into only 40KB.
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>>141822777
I remember people going crazy when they first saw Mikumo flying on the mech. Now people are like it only seems natural that she would.
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According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
Should I believe him?
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>>141824155
Well, she left before the war started, so maybe it's not that bad.
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>>141824034
100% my type. Also such majestic person is truly worthy of being called an idol.
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if i pre order the upcoming walkure album, will it be in cd form?

i can't remember the last cd I bought
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>>141817517
W-what is this?
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>>141817517
>イッちゃうかもね
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Maybe they'll release Bokura no Senjou, Cosmic Movement or Walküre Attack in digital form before the album goes on sale, r- right?
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>>141822777
When I saw it could turn into blades I just thought "SIVIL"
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So why aren't the BDs higher? Feels like Walkure is really a thing in nipland right now
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>>141825135
Because BD is coming in two months.
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Explain why you like Mikumo without resorting to using meme words.
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>>141825195
歌は神秘
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>>141825195
She's absolutely perfect
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>>141821845
10/10
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>>141825195
I don't like her as much as I'm curious about her
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>>141825195
I neither like nor dislike Mikumo.
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>>141825135
Still two months left. But Walkure having been so well-received is good. I didn't expect them to do this well.
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So perfect
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>>141825195
She is mysterious - I'm curious. She is Gen Fudo of Macross Delta.
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>>141825195
She's hot and mysterious. What's not to like?
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>>141816598
>SHINPI
>H
>I
>N
>P
>I

>If I repeat it often enough it'll turn into a meme!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKiLsbWiHY
Looking back at the old trailer it looks like the Aerial Knights will attack Ragna at some point.
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>>141825455
>Gen Fudo
A lying piece of shit and the true villain of the story?
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>>141825517
神秘
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>>141825538
The ones that talks scriptive.
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What is the difference between 神秘 and 謎
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>>141825195
I'm not that good with words, but I'll try. It's how much she puts into her singing. Even when giant robots fighting she's ready to sing. She's gonna be singing even when everything around her falls apart and dangers that oppose her she meets with "now you've done it". She's even ready to be mean to Freyja because she wants her to meet those standards. This unshakable spirit is what I truly admire and it's akin to a warrior's but is put into a very feminine thing. She's fighting a battle quite different from the soldiers. Actually that's quite simillar to Basara, who I also respect a lot (boy did I listen to his song).
But despite that, it's not like she wants people to listen to her songs, no, she LETS them to listen to it, because it's the song of a fucking goddess. Or maybe she's just a tsundere for her audience.
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>>141825538
Maybe!
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>>141825684
the latter's nazo

best translated as an enigma or something you don't understand. Muh shinpi is more elusive, secretive, mystery type of mystery
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>>141825195
The moment I saw her in the PV's I knew she would be my favorite character in Delta. The mystery, her aura and persona, how her personality is slowly being shelled out.

It's clear she loves Walkure, and is very dedicated towards it. She is also willing to risk her life for Walkure and it's members. She has a strong passion for singing and she doesn't let anything affect that passion.
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>>141825135
Sometimes I get the feeling that Walkure is more popular than the show itself.
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>>141825863
music fags are saying they're only popular among macross fags. Mecha fags are saying its only popular among idol fags.

yare yare
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>>141825728
>>141825814
>>141825195
As these guys put it. It is her unwavering strength and willingness to risk her life towards something she clearly loves. She understands where her battlefield, and does it to the best of her ability. Mikumo is always the first to jump into the dangerous field, which motivated the other girls to do their best to. She's a role model, an inspiration etc. While she may also do things on her own, she gets things done for the sake of the team. Whenever her team members do a good job she commends them, and shows them the respect they deserve. For example whenever Freyja shows fold waves she gives an approving smile along with the "W" sign. She also commends Makimaki etc. Perfect face for the group, both in looks and what she represents in Walkure
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>you will never sing a song to Sivil and then taste the fluids she secretes after hearing it
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>>141826118
>old receptor
HAGS, HAGS EVERYWHERE
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I'm starting episode 25 of M7 and the repetitive nature of the show is starting to grind on me. Is this going to get better anytime soon? I can't take much more "listen to my son~G... oh... you ran away AGAIN..".
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>>141825195
How has anyone else not said it yet?

She's supremely confident, has the skills to back it up, and she has big tits.
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>>141826298
Yeah, you're pretty much past the introductory part. Shit's gonna get real.
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>>141826298
I absolutely detested it the first time I saw it. I made myself watch it another time years later, and I'm only luke warm to it. its biggest flaw is that it drags on pointlessly for 20+ episodes, then gets decentish towards the end. There are some good episodes here and there, but overall I just don't really care for it.
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>>141826401

As a fan of Plus I must say I've also been enjoying the little musical easter eggs. It's nice to see one of the series actually acknowledge Plus in some way.
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>>141824155
Absolute treachery.
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>>141825443
I'd lick Mikumo's armpits
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>>141826452

Ya I've been noticing those 90s anime flaws. It has had a lot of pointless episodes so far (unless you want to consider "character development") and very little in the way of major plot movement. I'm trying to grasp why it's 49 eps long and not 23/24 eps.. So much filler rehash.
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>>141826467
it was more a case of "Oh, we need BGM's besides the fire bomber songs" Eh, lets reuse shit from that recent oav
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>>141826574
Not to mention they play almost only planet dance during those early episodes, which is like the one fire bomber song i really can't stand.

Anyway, as much as a hater that I am, one of 7's oav episodes is probably one of the best episodes of anything ever.
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What's the verdict, patsu or no patsu?
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>>141826706

Mikumo is a slut. Definitely no pantsu.
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>>141825517
pls, it's not the first.
we already got hoina and gori gori and giri giri ai. dunno why this trigger you.
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So I've seen Macross DYRL, Plus and 2.
Can I watch Delta and understand what is going on?
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>>141826959
7 is required viewing
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Who still /wowowowow/ here?
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>>141826979
That's a cruel joke.
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>>141826959
yes

>>141826979
not really
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>>141826656

I actually don't mind Planet Dance, also the OP/ED are nice.

So far what I'm getting from M7 is more of a FFXIII vibe (which is fine, I like FFXIII). It feels like I'm having to put in a dozen or more hours to get to the actual good part but the trip there isn't THAT bad so far. Just tedious..

>>141826580

I don't care it's canon acknowledgement so it works for me since modern Macross ignores Plus for the most part.
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>>141826979
Also Dynamite 7 or just 7?
How are they, compared to what I have already seen?
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>>141826982
__me___
https://a.pomf.cat/ifitgj.webm
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>>141826959

Why did you waste your time on 2? I mean besides having a way to say "it can't get any worse than 2"?
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>>141827045

Watch all of them in release order. ALL OF THEM.
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>>141821845
so good.
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>>141826959
No. Just wait for spoilers for everything else to pop up while participating in these threads.
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>>141827009
No, it's not. 7 introduces many concepts that are used in Delta.
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>>141827029

>Lyn Minmai
>Fire Bomber
>Sheryl Nome
>Ranka Shit

And no Sharon Apple. The Evilest Idol in history that hijacked the Motherfucking Macross out of love.

And not a mention, not even a musical cue since then. Zero I can understand people decide to forget, but Plus? A travesty.
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>>141827206
>Tricking people into watch 7
the madman
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>>141826959
watch frontier too at least, there's fold quartz and if the the spin-off delta manga is anything to go by, there's vajra too.
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>>141827259
7 haters are so cute. Just because you hate it doesn't mean most people do. The show got several ovas, extra episodes, a movie and the Frontier crossover for a good reason. Also the new Fire Bomber album some years ago.
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>>141826959
You could have gone directly from sdf macross to delta, without too much trouble. You're recommended to try each entry you havent tried as well though
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>>141827226
I think Sharon's music was banned after that incident and that's why only very few people from specific places know her. That may be why Sheryl knows and references Sharon, because she was not banned in Galaxy.
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>>141826959
If you've see Macross DYRL I just recommend watching episode 36 of the original series. Specifically the last 5 minutes. Definetly the most touching ending to a love triangle in the franchise
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>>141827444
>Definetly the most touching ending to a love triangle in the franchise
Not really since Hikaru is a fickle son of a bitch.
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>>141827114
I was actually going for that
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>>141817517
M-Mirage is popular guys!
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>>141827437
>banned

Except Mylene listens to it in her car, it's played multiple times in M7. Which was only a few years after Plus sooooooo.

>banned

ya.. nah..
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Nothing is ever done without reason. What was the purpose of showing this? What does it symbolize? What do they want to get across?
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>>141827444
Is SDF really worth watching from start to finish when I've already seen the movie?
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>>141827355

I used to hate 7 until I actually started watching it and it's pretty decent so far. Most importantly the music is good which is the main thing with any Macross.

I feel bad for hating on it so long.
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>14 hours until the Freyja/Bogue shipping madness truly starts
Are you ready?
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>>141827437
Nigga they mention Sharon in the opening of Sheryl's bigass concert to the entire audience.

It's not some secret thing
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>>141827601

Is more...Let's pretend this ever existed and let people forget about it
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>>141827568
It's what I've been doing. I've already seen SDF/Plus/Frontier. I Just got through DYRL, Zero and I'm watching the main 7 series then I'll bounce through the rest of 7's stuff so I'll finally have watched everything.

Everything except 2. I'm never gonna fucking watch that shit.
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>>141827628

Herpes?? They both have herpes.. Feel the Bern!
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>>141826842
>hoina
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>>141827723

Let's just say they don't bother to insert the songs because the show runners don't feel like bothering with it. That way it doesn't detract from Plus and everyone is happy.
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>>141827807
what? you gonna say it's hai na?
she said both. read the manga.
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>>141827909
>read the manga
It's out?
Well shit.
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>>141825195
She's mysterious and it scares me and it's very erotic
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>>141827951
should still be in the archive, it's just a few threads ago.
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>>141827584
Mirage is pure, anon.
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>>141828018
Thanks.
I'll shut up about hoina/haina then.
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>>141827978
She keeps looking ar her nails, what is so interesting in her nails that she keeps on looking
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>>141828024
Not after I'm done with her
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>>141827660
The show is more canon when it comes to events, but doesnt look as nice (less interesting designs and cheaper animation). But DYRL is basicly a super slick looking bastardization of the real story
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Is this the first Macross a triangle heroine has been sidelined as much? Because Mikumo sure looks more popular than Mirage and more main character-like. I don't dislike her, but it does gives the impression to be a secondary character. Milia never outshone Misa or Klan outshone Ranka, beyond what your preferences, they got fair treatment.
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>>141828168
>show
>canon

Anon, what the fuck?
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>>141828168
Not that it's really relevant but I was already watching SDC Orguss which has similar animation, I guess? At least from the little bits I've seen of SDF Macross.
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>>141828216
>Klan outshone Ranka

Don't you mean Sheryl? Which she totally outshone Ranka.

Klan was the loli zentradi
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>>141828129

Probably wondering how many times she's had to slip them into the vagoos of potential Walkure recruits..
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>>141828252
what part makes you think a movie that has zentradi fighting themselves, split between genders, is the canon version
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>>141828168

SDF is the book
DYRL is the cliff notes

It works for any Macross really.

Series/OVA = book
Movie = cliff notes

so simple.. so pure.
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>>141828320
I put Ranka and Misa as example as the secondary heroines, the less glamorous and popular ones (vs Minmay and Sheryl). Klan was never advertised over Sheryl or Ranka, or got near their popularity in Japan.

Mirage is literally who tier in merch and shit. To add salt to the wound, there's that promo thing they slapped Mikumo's name instead of hers on her character intro. She's just weirdly sideline when she's a main triangle heroine.
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the original series is anger inducing

the episode where hikaru leaves misa alone all day after arranging to meet her is one of the most enraging chapters of any animated fiction
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>>141828391
What part of "Minmay sings DYRL to stop the war" which is the official version don't you get? That's why it's a legacy song and not, love flows away. That's literally the most important scene in the whole Macross that defined all the successors. TV series and movie are BOTH fictional take, not superior to the other, because they had obvious wrong facts in there. In the case of the movie, they need to cut down subplots, while tv series dragged and went off the non canon rails (that's why Kawamori ends officially the timeline up episode 27 and jumps to Flashback).
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/a/ is the only place I can be honest about my desires and fantasies

I want to become a submissive fuccboi for Messer.
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>>141828554
No one gives a shit about you old hag
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>>141828425
Except that Frontier changes a lot of the tv show plot. Same with DYRL and the SDF version. Protip: Kawamori was fully in control of Frontier movies and DYRL, not their tv show versions. That's why he usually sticks to that canon as reference.
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>>141828434
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>>141828490
And then Minmay stays the night with him and they kiss. Then the very next day he dumps Minmay and goes back to Misa. The dumbest love triangle ever.
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>>141828610
I'm not old
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>>141828641
I'm just wondering what the fuck they are doing, because her design is great. Seems kind of a waste to sacrifice her to Kawamori's idol boner.
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>>141828551
DYRL is only canon in superficial elements. What song was sung, what the pilot suits looked like, that the zentrans were green, that the zentrans had their own language.

My original statement still stands, eventwise, the show is more cannon overall
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>>141828664
>>141828490
Because they forced them to extend it. Kawamori officially ends this with Hikaru and Minmay partying their paths before she sings to stop the Zentraedi.

They mentally said goodbye for each other. The network forced them to stretch that shit because Macross got popular, but in the published material and what Kawamori and Mikimoto consider for timeline, it ended in episode 27/DYRL.
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>>141828700
She could had been a member of Walkure instead of the flatchest hacker lesbo, And have all the Delta Squad pilots be guys. Relegate hacker lesbo to the bridge bunny squad and then all would be fine.
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>>141828633

Analogy still sticks since the movies are more or less abridged versions of the series.
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>>141828700
>6 episodes in
>what the fuck they are doing

Slow and steady wins the race
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>>141827628
Can't speak for the fire but their color coding does mean something though for Japan.

1) Kaname - Yellow often represents wisdom, clarity and warmth. Perfect for Kaname since she is the leader, and big sister figure of the group.

2) Makina - Pink often represents feminine and caring.

3) Reina - Calm and advance technology, which Reina stands for.

4) Freyja - I don't even have to say anything, but I will. Luck, prosperity, happiness and energy.

5) Mikumo - Royalitet, nobility, spirituality and very interestingly, mystery.
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>>141828758
>Macross
>canon
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>>141828758
No, it doesn't work that way. Minmay's personality, as we saw in Flashback (and the First), is indeed like DYRL. She looks like in DYRL because it was her who played her role. She officially spent time trapped with the Zentraedi according to chronicle, contradicting the tv series, because she became that ambassador of peace that Zents love to death and why so many spent decades chasing after her MIA status.

TV series gives more details, but gets things plainly wrong. DYRL was Kawamori's vision of Macross. And it's Kawamori who took over the franchise.
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>>141822904
>Generic anime hair
There's nothing generic about it as Mikumo can somewhat alter the shape of her hair. Name at least 3 other anime characters with the same hairstyle as hers.
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>>141828802
besides the character murder of the trio because of the extension, im actually glad they did. I just love the world building.
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>>141828802
I don't care. I still watched Hikaru be a moron for ten more episodes and I won't stand for it.
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>>141828886
Yellow is shit, fitting for a shit character
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>>141828878
>6 episodes
Seven.
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>>141816867
INOCHI
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>>141828916
yet, clearly, the zentradi were not fighting between their sexes, the provision army was a thing
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>>141828878
Mirgae will probably win the triangle if it goes romantic because she really doesn't have anything else going on.
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>>141828886
>4) Freyja - I don't even have to say anything, but I will. Luck, prosperity, happiness and energy.
Red is also romantic love, passion.
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>>141828964
who are you mad at
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>>141829023
>SDF again
don't do this to me kawamori
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>>141829015
And? That shit was irrelevant and a footnote, added to compress time. Where was Minmay trapped with the Zentraedi early on in tv series? Right. Nowhere.
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>>141828964
>cute and feminine
>kind
>helpful
>kind
>level-headed
>a good manager
>has an adorable voice

Kaname is literally a perfect female.
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>>141829023
I agree, and I'm a Freyjafag. Otherwise her character is pointless.
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>M7 episode 26..
fuck...
>flower girl
still makes no sense! but fuck!

It got good.. It got really fucking good..
>dat Macross Cannon
>dem sacrifice
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In Macross, Kawamori defined Misa as heroine while Minmay as star, but those expressions were misunderstood by the fandom. Misa isn't a heroine because she's 'heroic', he was talking about her status as love interest which in Japan is labelled as heroine. While Minmay is the protagonist and star of Macross.

Hikaru was a witness, a POV, of Minmay's story, while Misa was his love interest (after she was retconned there).
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>>141828641
OH NO
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>>141829023
Mirage will probably win.

Freyja follows Mikumo around the galaxy singing and devoting to idol activities. Leaving Hayate alone with a Mirage. And they have 7 kids of their own.
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>>141828964
Why do you dislike her so much. And please write more than a sentence. All Kaname haters, I demand a valid reason. Your reason will be graded also.
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>>141824870
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>>141829284
>all boys
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>>141829284
>And they have 7 kids of their own.
Let's hope at least 3-4 of them will be boys, not girls.
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>>141829023
I don't know if Freyja will actually fall for Hayate, right now she's more concerned for Mikumo-san than anything else.
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>>141829023
>because she really doesn't have anything else going on.
Bullshit. Mirage is bro with Hayate now and are developing quite a synergy with each other in combat.
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>>141828818
One Walkure member will die and Mirage will replace her quote me on this
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>>141829284
I don't care who wins, as long as Freyja's and Hayate's relationship stays awesome. They have a lot of chemistry together, but I don't necessarily think them lovers.

I didn't care for Hikaru/Minmay relationship or Alto/Ranka but Freyja's and Hayate are great friends.
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>>141829286

Which one is Kaname? I'm think that if I don't even remember who she is that she's probably a fairly pointless character in the long run. Perhaps we could consider her just a filler character who's there to hold a spot so as to not make the show feel as empty but in the long run holds no real purpose?

Shit character.
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>>141829338
You're not the first one with this prediction.
And no, Mirage won't sing.
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>>141829312
Not anymore than Hayate is concerned with Messer's opinion about him. Freyja, Hayate, and Mirage are clearly a trio.
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>>141829382
Freyja and Hayate are like kindred spirits while Hayate and Mirage are like reluctant lovers.
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>>141817517
You know, I would probably never waste my money on these things. But I AM intrigue and wonder what they would feel like.
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>>141829332
That's the point. She's nothing without her relationship with Hayate. While Freyja has a lot of shit coming on.

If Mirage loses, it'll be Zessica again.
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>>141829332
Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?

>>141829382
Freyja/Hayate have such a nice vibe together that would be almost sad to see it ruined by romance.
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>>141829415
>lovers
they're bros
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>>141829397
Freyja spends more time with Mikumo than Hayate spends with Messer.
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>>141822858
>Android has been the most popular theory. Which doesn't make any sense since machines shouldn't be able to generate biological fold waves.
Sounds like a challenge Sharon Apple would have loved to attempt.
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>>141829338

Quote you in the hall of stupid things people have said on 4chan? Sorry friend there's a 5yr waiting list for that.
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>>141829438
How would it be ruined by romance?
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>>141829438
>Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?

That would be Freyja and Hayate. It's like you miss the point that the real core of Max and Millia were two species at war become a bridge for understanding.
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>>141829457
Messer doesn't have a 10th of the time that Mikumo has
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>>141829446
>bros

You've clearly never been involved with something who started out as a "friend" but became a "lover" over time although reluctantly..

tsun tsun is true true in this case my friend.
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>>141829438
>Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?
No.
Keith and Messer are the best parallel for that. Ace of one side, Ace of the other side. Mirage drew a parallel between Freyja and Hayate and her grandparents though. Hayate told her off because it pressures Freyja to be a 'bridge' when she was still having doubts of what to do.
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>>141829489
They get all romantic with each other and that would take away their great dynamic.

>>141829503
I was thinking more about pilot rivalry and mutual acknowledgment of their skills and love.
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>>141829382
It's okay, Freyja and Hayate will stay awesome friends. Eventually down the road Mirage and Hayate's love will blossom.

Freyja won't be left in the dark though, her love for Mikumo is slowly growing. At first Freyja thought of her as a role model, now she is slightly obsessed with her. Mikumo makes Freyja's rune sparkles the most.

Soon Freyja's rune with sparkle purple for the person she loves the most. Mikumo (who is currently being cold/tsun).
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>>141829570
>tsun tsun is true true in this case my friend.
There's barely any tsun.
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>>141829613
Hayate and Freyja can have the same dynamic with romance, if anything it would make it better.
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>>141829613
>I was thinking more about pilot rivalry and mutual acknowledgment of their skills and love.

That was never the core of the relationship. Mirage isn't Hayate's rival at all either. She's his teacher and mentor, his senpai. I wouldn't try to find 'parallels' there. She's kind of a mediocre pilot too.
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>>141829634
Mikumo acts like that shoujo asshole who is the shoujo heroine's main love interest.
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>>141829647

No, there is much tsun you're just to young or dumb to be able to notice how subtle it is. It's like picking out the faint hint of cherry in a good pinot noir, you just don't have the acquired taste for it yet.
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>>141829419
>She's nothing without her relationship with Hayate
Oh course not. She has her own personal struggles she's trying to meet his her family's legacy and gaining the respect of her peers.

>While Freyja has a lot of shit coming on
That's because she one of the idols and a Windemerean.

>>141829438
>Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?
Its pretty much developing into that as paired pilots.
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>>141828329
She should cut them short then.
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>>141829613
Hayate's only rival is the mercat. Not Mirage. You don't really get their relationship or Milia's/Max's.
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>>141829419
>it'll be Zessica again.
everyone liked Zessica the most though
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>>141829438
They are Gamlin and Basara dipshit
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Reminder that Macross will never fall as low as this.
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>>141829900
Because Mikono was shit. In this case, the main heroine is lovable. Zessica only shone as contrast of how shitty Mikono was, but Mikono had all: fate, plot weight, the attention of all the key players, a backstory, etc.

Zessica had....... her pinning for Amata and she was afraid of ghosts???
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>>141829934
That thing looks like shit. The other mercats are cute but the ugliest one had to be the 'official' pet.
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>>141829934
The manga for that was pretty good actually
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>>141829934

Thanks now Youtube thinks I'm interested in Gundam Shit.
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>>141829934
Gundam has had goofy SD specials for awhile.
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>>141830022
At least the other pets were characters, this piece of shit was barely on screen.
The brown Mercat should just kill it and take it's place
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>>141829934
terrible adaption
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is it ever explained what the supervision army is
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>>141830082
It's a conspiracy to even shit on Mirage. They couldn't give her a decent pet and they had the audacity to pair her with that abomination in the opening.

I hope based mercat-sensei eats it.
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>>141830136
Brainwashed zentradi and protoculture soldiers used by the Protodevlin.
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>>141830082
>there's a keychain of that literal piece of shit
>not of the scarface mercat

I'm mad.
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>>141830022
And of course its fucking Mirages
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>>141829934
what did she mean by this?
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>>141830298
She's a nice girl but her taste is shit for picking that up as pet.
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>>141830298
It's the dorm room's pet
which is why it's Freyja's job to feed it
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So the two characters that receive the most hate are Mirage and Kaname. It's time for them to finally end things: http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111
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>>141830443
I hope this post is bait but i honestly can't even tell anymore
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>>141829634
They miscolored that rune.
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>>141830463
>Kaname
>cute and feminine
>kind
>helpful
>kind
>level-headed
>a good manager
>has an adorable voice

Kaname is literally a perfect female.
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>>141830694
I hope this post is bait but i honestly can't even tell anymore
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>>141830727

Than it's official, Rick & Morty is part of the Macross canon.
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>>141830801
>>>/v/
>>>/co/
>>>/tv/
>>>/reddit/
Fuck off.
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>>141829634
>Soon Freyja's rune with sparkle purple for the person she loves the most.
Isn't purple for sad or something like that? at least in anime.
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>>141830834

Now before you go all shitpost (which you already did) let me explain in a way that sort of slips into Macross canon.

>The Megaroad-01 set out towards the center of the galaxy in 2012. However in July 2016, barely four years into its voyage toward the center of the Milky Way, all contact with the fleet abruptly ceased

Sounds to ME like someone got abducted by the giant heads for their galactic version of American Idol.

Lynn Mynmay died trying to SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT.

With some tinkering R&M canon can fit in with Macross official canon.

You may continue with your shitposting now.
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>>141829800
Not him, but you sound like a delusional shipperfag.
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Is anybody here good with photoshop? How would Mikumo and Freyja look if the hair color-scheme was reversed?
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What did she see?
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>>141831221

Thanks, I know I'll be right in the end though.
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>>141832234
Decultre
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>>141831731
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>>141824155
>According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
>Should I believe him?

If she were a USA citizen, she would be guilty of treason under the canon definition of treason in the USA Constitution. So, if you accept the USA constitution's definition of treason, the Bogue is quite correct. Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.
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>>141832733
She also fled her country before open hostilities were declared, so it's kinda complex.
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>>141828129
>She keeps looking ar her nails, what is so interesting in her nails that she keeps on looking

You weren't looking closely at the first episode. Mikumo has a communicator tool hidden in a nail. She is able to engage it by stroking across that specific nail's leading edge.
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>>141832295
You don't even know what a tsundere is.
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>>141832733
>but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.

They didn't forgive Ranka.
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>>141832964
But Ranka wasn't cute.
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>>141832733
>Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.
But no one is sympathizing with Space North Korea.
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>>141832903

Says the guy who's acting awfully tsun with me right now. :3

Seriously stop or I'll get a retraining order against your creepy ass.
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>>141832964
Ranka betrayed humanity in its time of need for some bugs that killed tons of people. In contrast, who the fuck cares about betraying Windermere for Delta. At least they're both human and somewhat sympathetic.
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>>141832786
There's nothing complex. If so, then your use of "it's complex" as an excuse for Freyja not being guilty of treason is wishful thinking forcing your cherry picking of facts. But anime fandom is full of that. For example, Sword Art Online had a lot of fans who insisted that Kirito and Asuna were not a mary sue type characters. It's complex, so that is why bin laden is innocent. It's complex, so Freyja is not guilty of treason.
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>>141832733
So wait... if USA declares war to a country and you, a civilian, happen to be in that country when it does, you will be considered a traitor if you work for them as a singer?
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>>141832733
>Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.
There's nothing to forgive. Windemere are the bad guys.
Anyone with a brain should defect from Wind Korea given the opportunity.
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>>141833109
"I want to fuck Heinz" = sympathetic? Vajra had their youth killed by humans.
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>>141833220
It's only complex because it's 'Citizen of nation working against her nation', but she was never a combatant for that nation and emigrated before hostilities were declared.

She's the equivalent of an expat that is serving in an army that was later attacked by her home country. That's a complex situation no matter how you look at it.
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>>141833024
Your liking of a certain side has nothing to do with whether or not she has committed treason against her nation. You are using emotion to cherry pick facts. It's the same style of emotion that lets people commit crimes, steal, or vandalize. Oh that person is a know it all, so let's key his car. Voila it's done since those people were not sympathizing that some people do know it all on certain topics. But some people hate being proven wrong, so they key a car as proper compensation for their emotion and feel justified in doing so.
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>>141833452
You're really taking this seriously.
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>>141833393
Ans she isn't even fighting. She's more akin to a medic, restoring to health enemy's soldiers and civilians.

Isn't that considered legit due to the Hippocratic oath?
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>>141832733
>>According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
>>Should I believe him?

Easy to believe. Peeps post here justifying how they could be usa traitors cuz they feel that way so it is not traitor but complicated. Fbi still proscute them tho.
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>>141833340
Nobody cares about monstrous space bugs. They killed actual characters the audience cared for, and unlike the Zentradi or Protodeviln before them, there was nothing to even slightly see as sympathetic. The movies kinda managed it, but we're talking about the shitty TV series.
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>>141833637
fuck you, ai kun was the cutest macross pet to date.
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>>141832733
Why does the future give 2 shits about the US Constitution
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>>141833637
I feel the tv show was kind of a trainwreck in general. The vajra are great in the movies, though. It's hard to humanize space bugs but they did it. Vajra Queen was best girl after Sheryl.
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>>141833683
And then he promptly betrayed Ranka when he mind melded like the monster he was. In the movies, he literally saved Sheryl and Ozma's lives.
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>>141832733
>If she were a USA citizen, she would be guilty of treason under the canon definition of treason

Well, to the FBI. But some of the anime fans in here don't use USA Constitution definition of right and wrong. These fans have their own justifications and beliefs and obsessions.
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>>141833452
Wind Korea are the bad guys.
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>>141833788
He still kept himself. Remember he even picked Alto's plane when he had a meltdown when he saw him.

But I know their portrayal was better in the movies. Ai-Kun was really based. Unlike this shitty pet we got now. What a fucking downgrade.
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>>141833788
He also saved all Macross Quarter because he apparently was the one who persuaded the Vajra to shield the stage when they were singing in the movies.

A true unsung hero.
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>>141834014
To be honest, I actually don't even remember that. I understand that he somewhat kept himself, but the decision to have him betray her in the first place was the last straw for the Vajra in the TV series because he was their only ray of light. The handling of the Vajra was just exceedingly shitty in general.
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>>141833024
Found the humanshit.
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>>141834294
How did you get past your country's internet block winderefag?
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>>141832889
So she is constantly sexting
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>>141834286
I don't disagree. He was mindcontrolled actually, it was in the ending, he snapped himself out and helped Ranka and Alto.

The movie does make a smoother job. I think it's because we know already the vajra aren't so bad, so we get them portrayed in a better light because there's no 'mystery'. I feel Ai-kun movie wise is less of a pet and more like a character on his own right. A green tag along kid? Vajra ARE sentient but express themselves differently.
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>>141834365
Superior Windermere intellect.
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Fuck Mikumo.
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>>141825195

Because she invokes Sheryl without explicitly copying her.
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>>141826706

Pantsu: String Type
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>>141835995
She's not real, mate.
>inb4 because she's a robot
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Mikumo is great because she is Sheryl without the baggage of being in the triangle.

Sheryl remains the best triangle participant in Macross history.

That woman had some serious fucking guts.
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>>141835995
Yes, thats exactly what FreFre will do
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Honestly, why did they even make Mirage a main character. If Kawamori really wanted the triangle to be faint he should have just scratched Mirage and replace her with Mikumo.

Have the plot be the exact same thing it is now, but just without Mirage being part of the main three. Then the triangle would have Mikumo, Freyja and Hayate. Everyone thinking Mikumo will eventually steal Hayate, but she won't she'll just be mysterious her. And then Hayate and Freyja can be either friends or hook up.
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>>141836476
Because nobody wants Mikumo to actually be in the triangle.

Also Mirage will probably develop a lot as we progress here
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Meido Keith.
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>>141836476
Even if it didn't turn out like Frontier, it'd probably mirror it too much with Mikumo as another lead.
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>>141836447
I wouldn't say she is Sheryl, but I would say she has a passion for singing like Sheryl did, along with being very strong minded. Mikumo is her own unique character though, she doesn't fit any anime character stereotype at all.

Mikumo simply cannot be characterized, she is simple just Mikumo.
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>>141836585
You're giving her character too much credit.
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>>141836476
Understandable, however the results are in guys. 4chan agrees that Mirage is officially the least favorite character of Macross Delta

http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111
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>>141836585
>she doesn't fit any anime character stereotype
She's in the shinpi category.
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>>141836621
The text of the picture is unrelated. My point was just that Mikumo so far fits no stereotype of anime characters
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I kind of prefer the triangle having one idol and one military girl rather than two idols. Two idols in a triangle is just going to get ugly and might affect cd sales.
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>>141836818
Macross Frontier had two idols in the triangle.
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>>141836869
And it got ugly and Sheryl constantly overshadowed Ranka.
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>>141825525
Legacy of the Protoculture
Next scene is Kumokumo
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>>141836585

Mysterious, confident kuuderes aren't that uncommon, Shizuku from Kampfer or Utaha from Saekano.
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>>141836929
It doesn't affect CD sales though, because songs are released together. The problem was they didn't do a good job with Ranka.

If the triangle was Sheryl and Freyja, it would be a pretty even match based on how well received Freyja is.

Imagine if the triangle was even Mikumo and Ranka
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>>141837200
Or worse if the triangle was Mikumo and Sheryl
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>>141837097
Yet Mikumo isn't like any of them. At all
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>>141822777
Anyone with some Zentradi lineage can have hair tentacles.
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>>141837263
I'd cum inside both of them
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I love Kaname, motherly figure and a gentle voice.
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>>141837037
Holy moly! You're right, that was definitely done intentionally. How does it involve Mikumo? Is she the last of a species? Is there more of her?
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>>141837752
Yes we know Kaname
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Why is Mirage so useless?
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>>141837936
>Call your character Mirage
>She is practically non-existent
it's like a poetry
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>>141838052
Maybe her uselessness is just a mirage
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>>141825525
Does anyone know the song in the trailer?
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>>141836585
true, I love Sheryl but her passion for singing was almost the same as Basara and they are two totally different characters
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>>141837936
>No one declaring she's best girl anymore
What happened?
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>>141838650
Got her ass handed by what is essentially an almost dead grandpa and a rookie pilot
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>>141838702
>>141838702
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>>141836585
She's Basara.
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>>141838745
Almost-dead grandpas are the most dangerous characters in anime, though.
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>>141838650
I'm trying not to enable this forced ship war. Mirage and Freyja are both best girls as far as I'm concerned.
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>>141829934
Ok, I really don't like Gundam-San, but damn, that ending is catchy.
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>>141821845
oh fuck, he actually finished it
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Can i enjoy this without watching the older ones?
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>>141839889
Yes
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>>141839889
no
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>>141839889
Watch Aquarion first though
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>>141837752
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>>141839889
You must watch Robotech before you can enjoy any Macross.
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Full version of Bokura no senjou when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwAGms0eMuw
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Has there been a single romantic blush in this show yet? Not including that brown waitress chick who wants Messer's dick because that's a fucking dead end if there ever was one.
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>>141840835
Honestly no. There's no real love triangle yet. Freya does have some feelings for Hayate but they're not that obvious.
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>>141840835
Keith whenever he meets Messer
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>>141838745
Said rookie pilot was paired with the Knight's most veteran pilot. Mirage would've easily taken him down on her own if Herman wasn't in the picture.
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>>141835995
With pleasure
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>>141838745
Old people are always the strongest next to MC and final boss
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>>141828216
Go check 2ch and see which character is most popular there.
Mikumo only popular in overseas and overseas doesn't matter for Japan thanks to Harmony Gold.
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>>141840835
debately
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>>141841259
Mirage isn't popular there either.
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>>141841259
Pixiv is full of Mikumo art.
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I still cant get over the fact people are bothered with singing during hacking. Literally no fun allowed
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>>141841327
I WANT FREYJA TO LAUGH CREEPILY AT ME
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>>141836685
>>141830463
I just wonder why this anon keep shitposting to Mirage and Kaname, easy target?
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>>141841421
Not bothered by it. The y/u/ri in it made me giddy. But their songs are the weakest of all, specially the second
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>>141837680
This fucking scene, he reject Ranka's feeling and then he confess to another girl next to her. What a cold heart MC.
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>>141841421
Some faggots just hate that it didn't look technical or feel "realistic". They want muh GitS style hacking.
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>>141841551
He is the most hot headed MC in the series i mean he lost like what 3 VFs?
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>>141841421

I just figured it was fold hacking or something. If you're going to choose something to be pissed about the computer having "Hacking" in big letters would be a better choice.
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>>141841357
She's most popular character in 2ch, sure 2ch isn't everything but it still count as one of reference.
And before you said "her thread is full of shitposting", no it isn't, trying to shitpost in 2ch will just make them put that shitposter's ID in ignore list, unlike 4chan anons keep getting baited.
>>141841394
Go check the artist info and you will find many of them are chinese.
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Delta could be the darkest, grittiest most politically intruging Macross but the moment an episode decides to be more light hearted adding cutesy hacking or cat girls the oldfags will be all over it saying that the episode is representative of the entire show. That is exactly what happened in ep7
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>>141841462
>tfw Freyja will never laugh creepily at you.
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>>141841580
Gits is still hollywood hacking
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>>141841599
He also does that hot blooded pilot yelling that I don't remember any other MC doing.
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>>141841619
You can have yuri hacking and catgirls along with political intrigue and espionage as the episode showed.
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Can somebody explain why there are people want Mikumo as main character?

All i see what she done is keep saying something no one understand, in fact, she doesn't even fit for Macross Delta, more like a character from 2000s Gonzo show.
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Bogue and Freyjas runes will touch before they get seperated. Bogue gets some newtype feelings that will make him question everything and needs to see Freyja again to confirm everything. Freya in turn will beore concerned with the plight of her people
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EPISODE WHEN
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>>141841510
The "second" song was actually played in first episode. Episode 6 had the extended version.

>>141841654
Yeah. I'm just saying those retards expect it to be the gritty technical style hacking and cringe on how playful Reina's hacking was.
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>>141841770
8 hours left
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>>141841727
>runes will touch
NOT GAY IF RUNES DON'T TOUCH
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>>141841619
yup, and ep 7 has it serious moment too. like that conversation between roid and the voldorian elder, and when that voldorian little girl is trying to cure his dad by singing.
but no, let say that ep 7 is comedic just because we got singing hacker. dumb macros purist.
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>>141841619
I have a friend that is a huge Macross fan. Since the first broadcast of Robotech. He collects everything Macross related and has been making Macross sites since Geocities was a thing.

He is 40 or so and he absolutely refuses to watch or even acknowledge Delta. The reason is Walkure and their mahou shoujo type transformation when they sing. That is the only reason.

Zealots can be so close minded. I am joyfully enjoying the idols, the cat girls, the fish girls, the invisible girl.

>>141841820
Really? Oh, is it the one that plays when Hayate is dancing with the cargo mecha?
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>>141841770
In 5 minutes.
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SUBS WHEN
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>>141841868
Yup. That was it.
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Best girl.
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>>141841925
That is a Variable Fighter, not your waifu.
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>>141841925
Yeah no
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>>141841327

Good find, I'll give that one a 60% possibility of being romantic. Could have also been due to Hayate saying embarrassing things, which he does a lot.
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>>141841467
Because some of them still buttmad about Mirage is one of main character and Kaname is the leader(and getting her own triangle), they basically think it should belongs to Mikumo.

Otherwise there is no fucking point to hate them, and i say that as Freyjafag, and i'm pretty sure Freyjafags or even just come here watch the show for music/battle/etc won't hate them.
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>>141842176
A man of fine tastes
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>>141836929
And it was the most popular Macross. Two Minmay are better than one. Kawamori was a genius.
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>>141842314
Was Frontier more popular than SDF? How do we even go about analyzing the relative popularity of things made in very different times?
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>>141836476
>If Kawamori really wanted the triangle to be faint he should have just scratched Mirage and replace her with Mikumo.

Because Mikumo is actually important plot wise? Think about it, in the past, when an idol was against someone who wasn't an idol (7 counts), it was usually the idol 'losing' not because MC loved the second choice better, but because "plots said so" or "idol is too important to settle". Ranka and Sheryl shared their this, but Ranka always got a more heavy plot inclination, so freed Sheryl for emotional growth.

This time, Freyja doesn't have the weight of being a plot McGuffin who should be stay single for sake of everyone, but there's another idol, Mikumo, filling that role. So she's in a Sheryl circumstance, of being an idol, with plot connection but whose struggle is mostly emotional rather than plot device.
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>>141837200
>If the triangle was Sheryl and Freyja, it would be a pretty even match based on how well received Freyja is.

Unless it's written by Delta's writer, otherwise Freyja will just become Ranka 2.0 because everyone knows Macross F writer is Sherylfag.
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>>141842007
It's both.
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>>141841868
>He is 40 or so and he absolutely refuses to watch or even acknowledge Delta
I'm 40 as well but I'm enjoying Delta a lot. Macross 7 was far crazier and at times defied whatever logic the original series held it together. I consider people like your friend as hypocrites if they can like 7 and Frontier but completely hate Delta because of a few minor details that peeves them. Their "transformation" as we already know is due to their holographic technology and doesn't even last more than 5 seconds unlike actual mahou shoujo anime.
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>>141837328

Oh no of course not, because the hyper-specific category you created to house Mikumo. Yup, Mikumo is a special snowflake who couldn't possibly share any characteristics with any popular archetype.
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>>141842408
You have a point but sadly you didn't downplay Mirage, so he will probably still count you as his enemy or even Miragefag.
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>>141842381
It sold like hotcakes. Mostly because Ranka and Sheryl. Minmay is still the iconic character, but those two are not far behind her.
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>>141837263

Fuck a triangle I'd rather just watch those two duel it out as idols. It'd be Rocky vs Drago.
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>>141841259
>2ch posts are a measure of popularity

So explain me why Mikumo has more merch, official and unofficial (like that onahole), twitter results, fanart, overall enthusiasm in the event than Mirawho?

2ch posts are literally a dozen of fags circlejerking because nobody else gives a shit about Mirage.
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>>141842539
I wouldn't say sales and popularity are the same thing. Is Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon as nearly popular as Frontier? Fuck no, it just has incredibly dedicated fans.

An anime doesn't have to sell BDs at all to be widely known by the general population. That's what ratings are for.
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>>141841726
She's already a main character with Freyja and Hayate.
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>>141842674
Sheryl and Minmay are topping the Macross Magazine best female characters and Alto won the best male character. It WAS very popular, unlike Zero or 7 which had underwhelming reception.
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>>141842750
>Minmay
But shes hands down the shittiest charcater
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>>141842750
7 was very popular at the time
it was obviously overshadowed because a certain anime you might have heard about aired right after it
this little thing called fucking NEON GENESIS EVANGELION
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>>141842200
No, it was just interesting that Kaname and Mirage always received the most hate out of the cast. So the poll was created to see who the most hated was. Unfortunately it seems to be Mirage.
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>>141842656
Because she's one of walkure and sing by a new idol that they need to push so official need to keep promo her? is that really hard to understand?
Also i already said 2ch isn't everything in later comment, but still one of reference.

And see >>141842200
You buttmad shitposters is the one circlejerking.
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>>141842750
Doesn't Fire Bomber have the most albums of any macross performer?
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>>141842750
I don't know what you're arguing, but I'm not arguing that Frontier wasn't hugely popular. I'm just wondering what your reasoning behind thinking Frontier is more popular than SDF is, because BDs aren't a very good one.
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>>141842790
But they never ever are "most hate out of the cast".
Anyway you should check the poll again.
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>>141842790
>>141836685
>>141830463
Here, it's more interesting that we should check out which group are the worst in Macross Delta thread.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10277873
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Pick one
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>>141842472

I just don't get him.The things that Walkure use had been used since Plus. Frejya's debut concert had the same hologram types as Sharon's concerts.

Idols singing to calm a bunch of aggressive zentradi? Minmay did it.

But plainly disregarding Delta because the idols are too much idolesque for his tastes is just retarded.
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>>141842963
Green to see what would happen when I pull the alien off her head.
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You know the saddest and most fucked up part of the Mirage hate is the fact that she is apart of the triangle. Not just any triangle, but a love triangle. If Mirage was a secondary character or if Macross wasn't also a love story, Mirage would not receive as many hate as she does. That's the sad part about shipping, its a fun bonus but sometimes fans take it too care, and a scenario like Mirage occurs.

As for the Kaname hate, that's one thing I don't understand. It couldn't be the fact that she is leader over Mikumo, because that doesn't make any sense. It also couldn't be her age, because that's also ridiculous. Kaname hate genuinely boggles my mind.
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>>141843004
>he fell for the memes

AND WE AT WINDEMEREX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING
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>>141842963
All 3, But Green first
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>>141843004
stop taking memes so seriously
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>>141843004
Delta isn't supposed to focus on romance like Frontier. It's closer to Seven where the triangle was kind of irrelevant, anon. The real focus is put on the secrets of the Protoculture.
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>>141843112
>It's closer to Seven where the triangle was kind of irrelevant
soon you'll see
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>>141842777
Are you a Robotechfag or a newfag? Minmay was voted third best female character of the 80 decade in Japan.

She is by this day the icon of the entire Macross franchise. She's also Kawamori's favorite character, but he thinks of her as a goddess and the sun, so pitiful mortals like Hikaru can't ever reach for her.
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>>141843004
Nah i can tell you Freyjafags don't hate Mirage, it just some people being buttmad.
And no nope of them getting many hates, it just few shitposters keep spamming.
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>>141843165
Soon I'll see what? Kawamori already stated there's little romance in Delta.
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>>141843183
a shit
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>>141843183
>japs
>taste
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>>141843222
it just won't be at the forefront
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>>141842701

>She's already a main character

Look at where she's placed in the promotional poster. If this were a Star Wars poster she'd be a droid
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>>141843284
Mikumo is a plot switch, basically staff create her for solve issue that if they can't find any other way to solve it, like maybe upcoming episode.
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>>141843284
There are 3 promotional posters, idiot. That one and these two.

Guess what Mirage is important for only? Oh yeah, the triangle.
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>>141843284
Macross Delta has three promotional posters/key visuals: one with Walkure, the Knights, and that one, anon. Mikumo is prominent on one.
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The biggest problem of Macross thread(or any other 2 cour shows thread) is many people already used to 1 cour/split cour show, so when a 2 cour show airing, they still treat it like former and asking any main/important characters should done something big as quick as they can, like the show will end in episode 12.
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>>141816637
get in line, mac
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>>141843001
that's a bodysnatcher!
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>>141843086
The real love triangle. Who will win the octopusbowl?
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>>141844571
Reina who then eats it
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>>141843284

A better analogy would be Mikumo=Yoda, which would mean

Freyja=Luke, Mirage=Han, and Hayate=Leia and it's blatantly obvious after watching them reenact the trash compactor scene in the last episode
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Which all's your favourite bridge bunny group
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>>141844652
I always like the one in 7

Though first had Shammy in it and Delta has green squeed girl. I guess Frontiers group stand out the least
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>>141842985
Perhaps he hates the current J-Pop culture which is saturated with female idol groups and/or Mahou Shoujo in general.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiDv0pFi4eA
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>>141838702
https://twitter.com/macross_matome/status/734242273148342272
I see you, Japan.
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>>141845411
>マクロスΔ(デルタ) 海外勢制作の美雲さん・鳥の人・ウィンダミアを結びつける考察

The construction of that sentence makes me rather uncomfortable. But basiclly it seems to say that there's considerations of tying mikumo, birdman and windermere together for macross delta which has traction overseas.
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>>141828933

Ranka moved her hair too, for comedic effect.
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>>141845411
Holy.
I never thought a picture I composed with PowePoint would get such attention.
Guess that is Internet for you.
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>>141845651
I thought that the pic was originally from here?
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>>141845947
It is
>>141845909
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>>141845947
and I guess it is then >>141845909
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>>141842963
delicious brown megane
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>>>141844994
>Frontiers group stand out the least
>not wanting manly and womanly Bobby
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>>141845947
Yeah, I post it several days ago.
It was kinda just for fun.
And someone told me the number of wings of Birdman wasn't correct, so I stoped thinking about that theory.
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>>141845839
Ranka couldn't alter the shape of her hair like Mikumo. She could move her hair due to her Zentradi heritage. Saying that Mikumo's hair is generic because its extremely hard to maintain in real life is a non-argument as it doesn't apply to anime.
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>>141846000
He'll never be a bunny. He was bridge bear
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>>141844652
I like them all except for Frontier's. Delta's bridge bunnies surprised me with how likeable they are.
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>>141846119
>he'll never be a bunny
he was Frontier's beast of Caerbannog
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>>141846112
I wonder what the mystery behind Mikumo's here is. Kawamori is something else. Not only did he create a girl who is mysterious, but she's so fucking mysterious, that we are all having a discussion on the mysteriousness of her fucking hair
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>>141822777
My personal pet theory is that she's descended from that protodevilin Basara rescued back in seven.

No, I don't have any basis for it, but the timeline and her appearance fits.
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>>141842963
I like the orange one when she was wearing the disguise
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>>141846212
I think characterization wise Delta stepped up and outdid frontier. It's only been 7 episodes, yet you can feel how warm and comfortable everyone is with each-other. Right down to Chuck's siblings, to the bridge bunnies, even the mechanics are likable.
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>>141844632
So what you really wanted to say that Freyja and Hayate are siblings.
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>>141846212
Actually have a hard time remembering what Frontiers bunnies were like, with bobby being the one exception. He's easy to remember. I think there was this one bunny who had crush on the captain.

Delta's bunnies are admittedly the smallest group yet (SDF1 had a trio+misa and claudia), so there's fewer to remember, but even so you have good grasp of each one, despite them having pretty few scenes.
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>>141846278
7 was the only macross I never watched. Which protodevilin and why the timeline?

Also a lot of people on 2chan are talking about how images of Mikumo can be seen in DYRL, M7, and Frontier. They are also saying that Kawamori has been working on Mikumo since DYRL.
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>>141846327
that are gonna fuck
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>>141846310
I've noticed this too with Delta, I've yet to find a character I dislike or think is dumb or has nothing going for him or her. I guess among the recurring characters the mechanics would have to be the most anonymous (dont even have a grasp of just how many they are), but that's obvious given how extremely limited time they've gotten.
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>>141846305
I like orange bunny's cocksucking lips.
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>>141846375
Any links to these images?
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>>141846375
>images of Mikumo can be seen in DYRL, M7, and Frontier
Like, in hieroglyphics found in ruins or in the background?
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>>141846268
Asspull machine, for something staff running out of idea then she show up can clear everything.
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>>141846403
Frontier focused too much for better and for worse on the main triangle. When I watched SDFM and 7 later I noticed those two shows balanced their casts better than F, and Delta so far seems to be doing a better job too.
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>>141846375
>7 was the only macross I never watched. Which protodevilin and why the timeline?
Macross seven took place in 2045 and Delta takes place in 2067. Assuming standard human growth rates, it's perfectly plausible for Mikumo to be descended from that protodevilin without time shenanigans.

Like I said, it's not an ironclad theory. It's just something I thought it'd be cool if it were true.
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>>141846992

Michel/Klan got enough development as supplementary characters. Luca/Nanase was really pointless though.
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>>141846375
Maybe Mikumo is Minmay's daughter. She has her hair. Hers with some new alien species she met in the travel.
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>>141847657
Mikumo is Sara, or her daughter. I told you already.
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>>141847648
Luca actually was kind of important with his research. Nanase was pointless, so she was ignored in the movie.
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>>141848008
She has Minmay's trademark spiral hair, anon. Maybe she's the daughter of Sara's and Minmay's children. Both of them kinda of show up as Newtype Huge Ghosts in Sheryl's manga.
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Macross Chronicle Technology 13A: Dimension Weapons (Translation by Sketchley)

The Operation And Restrictions Of Dimension Weapons
“Its thought that the first combat that used an especially large quantity of MDE Dimension Weapons was the large-scale battle of 2059 between the Macross Frontier Fleet and the Vajra (the Macross Galaxy Fleet). In this battle, the tremendous pressure of Dimension Weapons was displayed, as the VF squadrons of the New Unified Forces, who escorted the fleet, and the civilian military provider S.M.S. were equipped with MDE – in order to oppose the Vajra, who had acquired a resistance to reaction weapons -, and used them to crush the Vajra.
Due to their power, usage restrictions similar to those for reaction weapons were established for Dimension Weapons – especially DE and MDE -, by the New Unified Government. Also, severe restrictions were imposed on the harvesting, distribution, and possession of fold quartz, which was indispensable for the production of Dimension Weapons.”

Here is what I think happened. With the advent of Fold Quartz based technology Windermere was probably thinking like Leon Mishima those who have monopoly on Fold Quartz would become an economic and military super power. Meanwhile at the core region Grace blew up Gaul 4 and Frontier started to make their own MDE. When the NUNG finally got details and survived a Vajra invasion they put a restrictions on distribution and sale of Fold Quartz.

Windermere sees it as an Unequal Treaty as restrictions on Fold Quartz puts a kibosh on their ambitions. Their only other export is well apples.

So they had a temper tantrum with a revolution and just to prove their point as they are horrendously outgunned used a Mini-Dimension Eater on Carlisle.

Now their planet is dying. They are looking at an extinction event. All the good planets in the cluster is already occupied so they come up with a mind control scheme using Protoculture ruins.
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>>141848176
this timeline thing from newtype states it pretty much as "matter of fact" that NUG forced unequal treaties onto windermere when they discovered them in 2027.
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>>141848176
>So they had a temper tantrum with a revolution and just to prove their point as they are horrendously outgunned used a Mini-Dimension Eater on Carlisle.
Cool theory anon. I seriously doubt Windemere would used an MDE onto themselves on the basis of a "tantrum" if they knew that would be the outcome of their world. Both sides blame each other of the incedent so its still unclear who caused it. That's just too convenient to believe and it doesn't add up.
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>>141848330
Can you translate what it says?
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>>141848330
So a planet full of children was discovered, and they were treated like children. Then they sperged out and proved everyone right.
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>>141848913
The sentence of interest is
>のちに統合政府はウィンダミア王国に対して不平等予約を押しつける
>subsequently, the United goverment pushes unequal treaties onto the kingdom of windermere
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>>141848176
>Windermere sees it as an Unequal Treaty as restrictions on Fold Quartz puts a kibosh on their ambitions. Their only other export is well apples.
you make it sounds like the windermerean has some sort of mean to mine it or something.
isn't it like super rare and can only be mined from vajra?
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>>141848330
33 years passed until Windermere's independence war. That's one whole generation of Windermereans.
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>>141849060
Having shorter lifespans doesn't make them children. They just don't get much technological advances since they die much earlier than we do.
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>>141849173
The windermerians did nothing wrong.
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>>141849281
They turn into fold quartz when they get old.
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>>141849281
He's just speculating. Indeed fold quartz is very rare as they can be harvested from Vajra and Protoculture ruins that Windemere has.
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>>141849320
They don't seem to develop faster. They age 30 or so normal years and then they die.
Even the Aerial Knights are largely teenagers acting like teenagers. They're great pilots because of their physiology, but look at Theo, Xao and Bogue for example. They act like kids.
With technological and medical advancements, humans probably live to 100 or so, Zentradi even longer still.
A 60 year old human diplomat is not going to treat an 18 year old like an equal, because to him, that 18 year old is just a child.
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>>141848330
>Newtype
It's not official.
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EPISODE WHEN
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>>141849473
>They don't seem to develop faster.
They don't because they haven't much time to do so. Once they hit puberty they're expected to find a mate, get married, and start a family.

>Even the Aerial Knights are largely teenagers acting like teenagers
That's because most of them are with the exception of Keith, Cassim, and Herman.

>With technological and medical advancements, humans probably live to 100 or so, Zentradi even longer still.
It doesn't matter with the Windemereans as it doesn't seem to affect their lifespan.

>A 60 year old human diplomat is not going to treat an 18 year old like an equal, because to him, that 18 year old is just a child.
Of course not. A diplomat who's aware of the physiology of another race should properly treat him equally regardless. Roid is only 20 years old yet the Voldoran Elder still treated him well.
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>>141849855
My point is that they don't have the wisdom that comes with age, and never had the chance to develop it. They're dying just as they're getting their heads screwed on straight.
Children give birth to children. Children run many things. A 25 year old is considered an elder, when for humans it's still young.

No one is going to treat them like equals, because quite frankly, they're not. As a result, they ended up with terms they felt were unfair; tough shit kids, you're not getting happy meals because the adults said so.
They had 3 choices at that point. Accept the hand they were dealt, prove to the rest of the galaxy that they could sit at the big kids table, or lash out. They chose option 3.
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http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/85063
>macross will never beat this
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>>141850071
I can't blame them for thinking that with their short lifespan they are better off isolating themselves.
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>>141843365
By that logic so's Hayate, not saying that's not true mind.
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>>141850153
>ラブライブ
>not dead meat
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>>141850153
Macross Frontier movie sold more. You mean Delta?
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>>141850186
I can't either.
I don't think they're evil. They're just stuck with a culture and a mindset that's so different from the rest of the galaxy. Their lives end before the lives of some other races even truly begin. It creates an insurmountable gulf between Windemere and the rest of the galaxy.
I just think they're going about dealing with it the wrong way. Their actions are proving to the galaxy that, while formidable opponents, they are not mature enough to be fully fledged members of galactic society.

This series will probably end with Windemerians having some kind of culture shift.
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>>141850153
So what was this about?
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>>141850474
it seems like an event, they got 51149 people, 10 000 more than last year.
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>>141816712
She looked better in the niconamas for Saekano though. Something something makeup.
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>>141850592
Who had an event? If its Love Live I'm not really surprised with the amount rabid fans it has.
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>>141850736
it's love live yeah.
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>>141850347
Invading other planets isn't really isolationism
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2 more hours to go til episode 8. I'm looking forward on how Hayate and company will escape.
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>>141841599
he's not a bad pilot per se, just reckless
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>>141850978
>I'm looking forward on how Hayate and company will escape.
I bet Mikumo will save the day yet again
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>>141851043
>yfw it's actually chuck
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>>141851043
it will be a mikumo messer combo. Mikumo will cause something to happen randomly with the ruins, allowing for the three to get away, then messer will show up and pick them up in his valkyrie
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>>141850347
That's pretty much Japan before they opened up to the west. Will the samurai lynch Kawamori for this?
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>>141851080
But Chuck is too busy with bridge bunnies
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>>141851080
>he get's killed in the escape
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so the windermereans have some grievances with the NUG

how does that excuse attacking pop concerts
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>>141851160
on ep 4? that's just a distraction, the main army was busy taking over voldor or something.
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>>141851187
Said idols are the biggest obstacle to their plans as they can unbrainwash their slave soldiers.

Windermere does not have the military forces to take on a serious NUNS. So they turn to either MDE or brainwashing.
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Anyone else feel that the Walkure are more Spec ops turned idol than the other way around?
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>>141851273
>So they turn to either MDE or brainwashing.
There's no definite proof yet that Windemere is behind the use of MDE on their homeworld as both sides blame each other.
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>>141851338
Other than Freyja, yeah.
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>>141851160
It doesn't excuse them of anything. They used experimental biological warfare to cause indiscriminate civilian casualties for years. They directly attacked and destroyed defense forces and possibly causing more civilian casualties on at least one occasion before they actually came out and made declarations of war. They're waging a belligerent war against a number of planets. They're even suspected (but we can't know for certain yet) of having used dimensional weapons on their civilians and the blame it on the other side to rally its population.

While we can't know for certain yet about the final one, the Windermerean nobility still are pretty much class A war criminals at this point.
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>>141851338
no fucking shit
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>>141851340
it could be that Char dude from Macross E
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>>141851340
Keith called the hole at Scarfell their brand of shame. Roid doesn't contradict what the Voldor leader said. >>141848176 The NUN already restricted Dimesion Weapons from being used.

Windermere only won because it got a ceasefire after the MDE happened. Before that they were losing.
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>>141851338
Walkure are tactical sound unit brought about for the express purpose of surpressing Var syndrome. We have in universe prescedents of similiar units with Macross 7's Sound force and even the jamming birds, though they were a bit different.

Also, mankind (and in a way its allies, at least as far as zentradi goes) owes their very existance and current way of life to pop idols, music and culture. We have several cases of music also producing very tangible effects. It's not so weird from an in universe perspective
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>>141851370
hey, freyja also got espionage training in-between her dance classes.
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>>141851433
That's still not definite proof that Windemere were behind it. Keith probably called it that because their world became a casualty of their war for independence and not that they actually used an MDE. Roid not contradicting doesn't direct implicate them either and he's acknowledging what the Voldor leader said.
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>>141851392
Didn't he have runes
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>>141851338
Kaname was a retired idol aiming to be a manager of Walkure till she got recruited to be one. Makina comes from a long line of mechanics, she loves mecha but she also loves idol. Reina got caught hacking into Chaos and got recruited. All got recruited as Walkure because they have Fold Receptor Factor. The same power Basara, Mylene, Emilia, The Nomes Sara, Mao, and Sheryl, and Ranka all have.

Mikumo is their center and ace who is mysterious.
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>>141846305
the guy who pretended to have the var is from hayate' mechanic Team, right?
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>>141851710
Yep
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>>141851626
too hard to tell, it could be his mask's accessory/attachment.
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I think we better start a new thread.
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>>141851801
Unless the art is shittier than it was, it looked like slaps of his helmet.
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new

>>141851904
>>141851904
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New
>>141851917
>>141851917
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>>141851433
And it could be brand of shame because of their impotence to stop the Nuns. The king is convinced that was the Nuns, by the way. Roid might just choose to not argue the point. He was very elusive including on his beliefs. Bogue, an Aerial Knight, seems to believe is the NUNs' fault. That's likely the source of his hatred.
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>>141821845
10/10
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Wow, seconds of difference. Funny.
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>>141851915
>>141851923

Which one
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>>141851915
>>141851923
wew lad
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>>141851273
>Said idols are the biggest obstacle to their plans as they can unbrainwash their slave soldiers.

If Roid wanted them dead, he wouldn't have stopped the attack. It was obvious that they could have easily nuked them in episode 4 and in episode 1, but Roid stopped them and forced them to withdraw which annoyed the rest.

You should pay attention. He's the one getting data of them.
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>>141851974
The Freyja thread, lads.
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>>141851942
It sounds like a bomb was dropped on Windermere, none of the sides did it but they keep blaming each other because they were at war. Roid might be using the bomb as a threat to control other planets with more ease. I really doubt they would reveal who is behind the incident this soon.
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>>141851915
>>141851923
Were they separated at birth?
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>>141842963
>Pick one

The one with a Kirara
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>>141852021
Roid doesn't seem to give a shit about the war in general. See here >>141851987 He dislikes violence but he's using this to get info of the protoculture. If wasn't for Roid, Delta and the Walkure would have died in episode 1.
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>>141842963
Nina - the one with a mercat
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>>141852054
Who?
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>>141851642
神秘
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>>141851915
>>141851923
>page 8
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