Monogatari

Would this show even be any good if it werent for shaft?

>>133860007

It really wouldn't be the bluray/boner factory that it is, but it'd probably still be pretty successful.

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>>133860007
Possibly.

SHAFT does good work, but other studios also do good work.

The visual style would be very different, of course, but the source material could be done well in some other visually different way.

Very difficult to picture, though.

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I really need to start watching the stuff after Monogatari S2 someday.

* [Aug 21, past midnight] Araragi and Shinobu enter time gate at the shrine.
* [Morning] Hanekawa encounters Hachikuji, then Kako.
* Araragi returns, meets Hachikuji.
* Hanekawa's house burns down.
* Darkness attacks. Araragi, Hachikuji, Ononoki escape to cram school.
* [Afternoon] Darkness severs Araragi and Shinobu's link as they escape to the mountains.
* [Night] Hanekawa sleeps in the cram school.

* [Aug 22, early morning] Araragi awakens after 12 hours unconscious.
* Senjougahara finds Hanekawa, drags her home.
* [Daytime] Heading down the mountain, Araragi sends the "Don't vorry" text.
* Hanekawa and Senjougahara shower, sleep until afternoon, eat, sleep.
* [Very late (next day?)] Senjougahara shakes hands with Black Hanekawa.

* [Aug 23, morning] Araragi meets Gaen. Hachikuji passes on.
* [Day] At school, Kanbaru talks with Hanekawa about Araragi's text.
* [Before six] The Fire Sisters come to Senjougahara's to get Hanekawa.
* [Nine] Araragi meets Kanbaru, armor attacks, Kako burns building.
* [Midnight] Araragi and Kanbaru get lost.

>>133860306
* [Aug 24, after midnight] Black Hanekawa brings Shinobu to cram school ruins.
* They encounter the Rainy Devil. Shinobu heads for the park.
* [3am] Araragi and Kanbaru make it to the park. They fight the oddity chimera.
* [Morning] The group meets Gaen at the shrine. Gaen leaves, Araragi goes shopping.
* Hanekawa encounters Gaen and Episode.
* [Day] Araragi encounters Oddity Slayer at the bookstore.
* Gaen and Episode save Araragi, then chase after Oddity Slayer.
* Back at the shrine, Araragi and Ononoki eavesdrop on Shinobu and Kanbaru fighting.
* [Later] Gaen and Episode come to shrine, set up the duel with Oddity Slayer.
* At the park, Hanekawa calls Senjougahara, figures out that Kako is burning places she slept.
* Araragi calls Senjougahara seeking encouragement.
* [Night] The party arrives at the school grounds to perform the duel.
* [7:30] Hanekawa writes her letter, and texts a picture to Araragi.
* Araragi defeats Oddity Slayer.
* Araragi goes to save Hanekawa from Kako.

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This shot was the most boner-inducing thing I've seen all year.

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>>133859905
Not even frame of the episode m8

>>133860007
It's extremely difficult to imagine it in the hands of another studio due to its rather distinctive visual style and I don't think that would have been done elsewhere.

I think it probably would have been somewhat successful, but not to the levels it currently enjoys, I doubt we'd have as much of it animated.

>>133860078
Thanks for posting that.

Xo

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>>133860359

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This was probably my favorite part of the episode because Kanbaru, also this >>133860926

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>>133860359
Is this the first time they've shown any of Yotsugi's skin, because that scene did seem unusually erotic.

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test

>>133860007
it would be better

>>133861224
Her arms and face are always visible. And if you're talking about lewd skin her lower back was shown in Tsuki

>>133861224
>that scene did seem unusually erotic
Can't imagine why. Shaft knows exactly what they are doing in Monogatari

>>133860007
That's actually a good question. So much of the creative direction behind it is very, very SHAFT and was basically improvised on their part for lack of descriptions from Nisio. Essentially the circumstances for how Monogatari came about looking/flowing like it does are pretty much thanks to SHAFT's situation at the time and probably would not have occurred if another studio did it.

When this series started in 2009 SHAFT was still essentially the obscure, funky little studio making everything on budgets of whatever crumbs of weed were left in Shinbo's tracksuit pockets and a couple McDonald's runs. Since the series was an instant hit it naturally made sense to try to fuck with its composition/design as little as possible hence it's somewhat of a time capsule, preserving the old quirky/hyper-budget SHAFT.

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>>133861462
>lower back was shown in Tsuki
Damn, guess I gotta rewatch tsuki for like the fifth time then.

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I've started marathoning this series last week and I must say, it's one of the best looking anime all time.

I don't even like harem and tsundere that much, but I'm loving the series and its atmosphere.
I mean, the animation itself is pretty average, but the art (especially the lighting) in the series is fantastic.

I think Monogatari is a perfect exemple that you don't need a high budge to make a good looking anime.

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>>133861789
Not even that, I mean the art is great and all, but it's the directing that really makes it stand out. /a/ likes to shit on it for being too eccentric (I'll admit they overdo it sometimes), but it's really fun to watch regardless. Also, somebody post that pasta about fondling in monogatari and other harems.

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>>133861968
I want to fuck her socks.

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I'm jealous of Araragi

>>133861224
Lads I need Doll's feet on my face

>>133860350
>* [Aug 24, after midnight] Black Hanekawa brings Shinobu to cram school ruins.
>* They encounter the Rainy Devil. Shinobu heads for the park

Make one wonder how Shinobu ends up with all those scratches, yet Hanekawa only wakes up to find her feet are dirty.

It would be great if Nisio had Hanekawa fight some more, maybe he is afraid of her being too awesome?

>>133861185
Kanbaru confirmed leglocker.

>>133860007
Shinobu would still exist even without SHAFT, though she might be slightly less glorious.

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>>133862014
I want to cut a hole at the end of her floppy sock, stick my dick in it and fuck her toes.

>>133862324
Black Hanekawa wipes off her feet. Remember that Hanekawa noticed the tissue box moved 3 millimeters.

Shinobu however is extremely weak from being severed from Araragi.

>>133861968
>but it's the directing that really makes it stand out
The general direction is pretty good too.
I started watching Bakemonogatari knowing that wouldn't probably like it, but I have a policy of giving a chance to every kind of anime, so I gave it a try.
I don't even like anime with too much talk, but the dialogues in Monogatari are surprisingly entertaining.

>being too eccentric
The characters behavior and discussions are a little bit different from the usual, but that's the "charm" of the whole thing.

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>>133860561
This one is clearly superior.

>>133862523

I'm aware, but I was surprised she had no injuries at all from the fight.

>>133857641
Last episode of Otari, Ep 13 of second season
>>133861537
>preserving the old quirky/hyper-budget SHAFT.
But hopefully not Kizu.

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>>133862615
>those fucking hips and thighs

>>133862625
If the only lasting result from the fight is her feet being dirty, maybe that just means she ran away like the coward she is?

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>>133860561
I might try to animate that one too.

>>133862686

Doubt it, since Shinobu said all three fought it together, but nice try.

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>>133862707
There is this one
Maybe you can do one without subs

>>133861401
Did it work?

>>133862686
Accelerated healing.

>>133860007
I'm not sure who I would entrust it to as SHAFT fills out the many gaps in Nisio's writing.

We'd end up with a slightly prettier Ararararagi talking shit for a quarter of an hour as a static image.

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>>133861434

What the happened in tsubasa tiger already? Can I have a quick summary?
I clearly remember the other arcs of S2 but this flew right over my head.

>>133863090
Should could date Kaiki instead.
Rrrrrgi isn't dragged down by her horribly boring and annoying personality and she actualy get's interesing through the interactions with Kaiki.
Win/win.

>>133863137
>Can I have a quick summary?
Anon, you cheeky little cunt.

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>>133862823
Naw, I meant a smooth loop. The animation is too short to make it really smooth though. It kind of pulses as a result.

>>133861401
Nice job, but if you can, put the name of the episode in the metadata next time. I don't know what program you're using to make the webMs, but it's nice for when people ask source.

>>133863561
That's really good anon.
Thanks

>>133860007
>KyoAni monogatari
Cuuuuuuute girls doing strange things. Slower pacing. I really can't picture it.
>JCstaff monogatari
Boring and generic.
>Gainax/trigger? monogatari
...I don't even.

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Explain the plot of Monogatari to someone who's been fapping to the doujins for years but finds summaries of the actual story completely incomprehensible.

>>133864001
It's basically Boku no Pico as a harem comedy.

>>133864001
lots of interesting dialogue and cute girls

>>133864001
I'm glad to discover I'm not the only one that discovers all the anime I watch through porn.

>>133864001
Monsters are real because people believe in them. They manifest themselves out of real life mental hangups from people. A certain town in Japan is undergoing huge monster problems due to a certain uberpowerful vampiress having jumped there 400 years ago and obliterating the local object of worship.

>>133864001
Some guy stick his nose into everyone's business and then gets frisky with a menagerie.

>>133863970
>you are now imagining how modern KyoAni would approach Monogatari

>all K-on-like sameface
>violent events censored or nixed entirely, dialogue toned down
>settings look nice but generic for lack of description.. a school is a school. a playground is a playground, a bedroom is a bedroom etc.
>they'd perhaps try to cut off the connections between the arcs because they already knew they weren't going to commit to animating more than a 1-cour season or two, put in some anime-original villain / chars etc

It would suck.

>>133864001
Ghostbusters - The slideshow

>>133864327
>slideshow
I don't understand the slideshow/powerpoint thing. Is it because of the occasional scene breaks?

>>133864001
>guy meets supernatural creature
>becomes immortal
>meets girls afflicted by other supernatural creatures
>gets rekt by supernatural creatures
>finds out girls have to get their shit together
>helps said girls save themselves by talking it through
>guy acquires harem
>puns, folklore and sexual tension ensue

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>>133864001
Don't worry about it. Just keep masturbating to them.

>>133861088

>written by Dan 'get in the van' Schneider

What is Yotsugi's height?

>>133864421

But he becomes friends with one of the girls before he meets the supernatural creature. A panty flash literally started it all.

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My fetish

>tfw a little girl will never put her legs on my face

>>133864793
>friends

>>133864421
>puns
Too bad I don't get most the japanese word play in this show. All that bullshit between Hachikuji and Araragi always floats over my head.

>>133860926
I think I missed a chapter if one came out recently
What is this from?

>>133864857
How much of a fucking moron do you have to be to make a post like this

>>133860007
For a LN as dialog heavy as monogatari, Shaft's unusual style sure does come in handy.
For me personally, it would lose haf of the appeal.

>>133860007
it would be better if Kyoani were in charge

>>133864001
The series is seeding groud for fap material as you already know. But the dynamics are quite simple, we have this high school boy which happens to find girls with super natural problems and being a vampire, but that's another hstory, he helps them. And one is his girlfriend and the others desire him, even the loli. People talk a lot and he once or more, i'm not sure brushed his sister teeth, if you know what i mean.

>>133864988
It would be better if you shut your whore mouth up

>>133864001
The plot is that supernatural shit won't leave Araragi alone in his final year of high school, after an encounter with a vampire that left him quasi-immortal. He solves the supernatural problems of various cute girls in his life, some of them are themselves supernatural beings, others are just humans. Through a weird mixture of charisma and outright bizarre behavior he gains a harem of these various human and non-human girls.

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I want to take a bath with Shinobu

Who has the webm? I have yet to make one of that scene

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Ragi lost points for not banging Monkey.

>>133866006
Honestly, he lost points for not banging all of them.

He should try and find a way to do it since I think it could be possible.

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>>133860359
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>>133864816

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>>133865751
For you dear anon

>>133866052
I'm pretty sure Senjougahara would be fine with a threesomes as long as they don't become commonplace.

>>133866060
>>133860359
>>133861088
>>133861224
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>>133864816
My brothers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Alrc98fQlc

>>133862977
What gaps are you talking about?

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>>133866120
thank you

>>133866174
>threesome
I can see Gahara being ok with Hanekawa now, she has no choice with Shinobu, Kanbaru will go for Gahara during sex too so shes allowed and then Karen and Tsukihi will join in since they were already jealous of Gahara getting a piece of their onii-chan. Then Yotsugi will just be used as a sex doll when Araragi is all alone.

>>133866364
Hanekawa is the biggest threat to her hold on Araragi, I dunno if she'd be cool with letting her fuck him. Shinobu is the only one with a stronger claim on him, but their relationship isn't really comparable to something that can exist between two humans, so there's no point in her being jealous even if she knew the full extent of it.

>>133866688
The solution, then, would be to hold a foursome with Cat paired with Crab and Monkey paired with Ragiko.

>>133866688
After getting her confession rejected Hanekawa knows her place plus her relationship with Gahara has improved extensively since then.

I can see one of their pajama parties getting wild with Araragi thrown in the mix.

>>133866777
I see her friendship with Senjougahara as something she came up with to maintain her friendship with Araragi. After all, now that Senjougahara knows she has feelings for him, she'd be super suspicious of any time they spent together. An easy way to lower her suspicions and to let her keep associating with Araragi is to become Senjougahara's close friend.

>>133866777
Hanekawa actually threatened Senjougahara saying she'd ask him out if she didn't let him go at the start of Nise. I think the only reason Araragi shut her down was because of the circumstances they were in at that time. If she put on a tight dress with her tits hanging out and started flirting with RRRGI it'd be over.

>>133864121
>read K-On doujins
>Watch K-On
>Can't read K-On doujins anymore

>>133866777
Senjougahara actually fears Hanekawa's sex appeal. She knows she can't match it, and knows Araragi is actually weak enough to be seduced if Hanekawa comes on strong enough. That combined with her longer association with Araragi is why she's the biggest threat to Senjougahara's relationship with Araragi. For now, Cat is playing nice and keeping her mitts off Crab's boyfriend, but the power is entirely in Cat's hands if she decides to steal him.

can someone please tell me how the monkey bitch went from wanting araragi to die and even beating the shit out of him to her wanting him to take her virginity? what made her start being a slut for him?

>>133867101
That's why I'll never go near the K-On anime.

>>133867101
Fuck, I've been through that cycle as well, anon.

>>133861224
thanks for the new phone wallpaper

>>133866777
>I can see one of their pajama parties getting wild with Araragi thrown in the mix.
Trips confirm, this is literally THE dream.

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>>133867101
Same thing happened to me with Nagato after the movie.

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>>133864001
The second girl wins and Araragi becomes best bros with every other girl.

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TIGHT BUTTHOLE

>>133867215
the same reason crab molests cat.
closer to the one you admire through the one they admire.

>>133867215
The Monkey's Paw manifested against her will. She did not actively hate him or want to kill him, but the fact remains she felt a kind of selfish, petty resentment that Araragi managed to save Senjougahara where she failed, and that he now had a relationship with her while she didn't. Had she not been cursed she could have just burried that resentment and pretended nothing was wrong, but because she had the monkey's paw it fed off that negative emotion and manifested as murderous intent.

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>>133867186
>Senjougahara actually fears Hanekawa's sex appeal.
This is true. But she also knows the only way to beat her fears are to face them head on.

>>133867101
So many anime this happened with for me.

>>133867574
>She did not actively hate him or want to kill him
No, she pretty much admitted she hated him.

>>133867574
She most definitely hated him. The paw just removed her ability to control and suppress that hate and gave her the power to do something about it.

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>>133866777
Yup, Cat knows she's nothing more than the occasional threesome buddy.

>>133867615
Not enough to kill him. She's not a psychotic murderer. It would be impossible not to resent him. The paw used that resentment to manifest murderous rage.

>>133867626
The paw grants desires by twisting them into malice. It made Kanbaru into a great athlete by crippling those better than her. Had nothing to do with "removing her inhibitions". It straight up twisted her desires into something malevolent. The same thing happened with Araragi. She resented him over the situation with Hitagi and wanted to be with her instead, the paw used that to try and kill Araragi. Araragi was both the object of her resentment and the obstacle to her relationship with Hitagi.

Outwardly she could easily pretend nothing was wrong and would never have to act on her inner feelings of resentment.

>>133867662
It removed her inhibitions yes. And some would argue that's who really are because you can't control what you feel but you can control your actions.

>>133867662
Wasn't is stated that she thought it for a split second or something?

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>>133867746
You're forgetting how the paw was used prior to this. Unless you're trying to say Kanbaru hated the other athletes and wanted to kill them secretly, the paw distorts her desires and makes them violent.

>>133867734
Anon you need to go watch it again. It didn't twist anything. The hate she had was always there, she just choose not to act on it. The paw removed that choice.

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Shh Vampire loli is sleeping.

>>133867734
>It made Kanbaru into a great athlete by crippling those better than her. Had nothing to do with "removing her inhibitions".
She wanted revenge on the classmates who had teased her when she was still angry about losing her parents.

>>133867813
She's not a murderer nor does she have murderous intent. That was something the paw foisted on her.

>>133867829
>meme subs

>>133867734
why does she want the araragi dick? is she just playing around?

>>133867865
who are you quoting?

>>133867867
She got over her anger. That's what the monkey arc was for. Worked through it and decided to befriend Araragi since it would let her get close to Senjougahara.

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>>133867829
Aniki is awake though.

>>133867902
>who are you quoting?
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>>133867936

>>133867813
I think you're going to extreme. It's like a child wishing their parents would just die so they can do whatever they want. No one actually means it when confronted with the option to.

>>133867906
gay

>>133867837
So you're seriously saying you think Kanbaru is a bloodthirsty murderer held in check by a thin strip of reason? K then.

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>>133867829

>>133868090
There is a group of thought which believes that every human is a "bloodthirsty murderer held in check by a thin strip of reason."

>>133868090
I don't think anybody is saying that. Probably the majority of people in the world have felt angry enough that they wanted someone to die at some point in life, but of course nobody ever acts on that because the majority of people aren't insane.

>>133860007
>White fox.
Probably in-between the style of S;G and Katanagatari
>Ufotable.
With the ambiance similar to Kara no Kyoukai.
>KyoAni
Though it would be more focused on being cute and slower pacing.
>Sunrise.
More focused on gags and references (or something)

But SHAFT is still the best studio for Monogatari.

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>>133868180
>Probably the majority of people in the world have felt angry enough that they wanted someone to die at some point in life
If you think this you have serious rage issues. The majority of people say things they do not mean. People have trouble thinking clearly when angry, so they can't articulate themselves properly. They lash out verbally, and just like when you lash out physically there's no real rhyme or reason behind it except to express your rage. There's no murderous intent, no desire to kill, there's only directionless fury. The words said don't convey any meaning except the anger of the speaker.

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>>133866777
Study sessions are nice too.

>>133867783
Yes she did hate them They bullied her a lot.
She didn't want to kill them and didn't with the paw, just hurt them a lot.

>>133867846
>>133867985
She does have murderous intent. Everyone does.
You also have sympathy and kindness and logic.
and the paw removed those things because they were preventing Kanbaru from acting.

>>133868326
But people still think that when they get angry. Of course they're not thinking rationally, but that's not exactly the point here.

>>133868450
You're still insisting that Kanbaru has a malicious, cold blooded personality, even though it's not anywhere evident in her behavior. If the paw only "removed her inhibitions" as you claim, it means that she's constantly seething with murderous rage and has a strong desire to kill and maim others.

That's not her personality at all though. She does get angry yes, but being angry is a far cry from deliberately harming other people. When you're angry you lash out, but stalking people and hospitalizing them is cold blooded behavior.

>>133868090
The Rainy Devil doesn't granted wishes in a twisted way like the famous Monkey's Paw. It really does grant desires, it's just looks into the user and sees the negative unconscious desire and grants that, so if Kanbaru went and beat up her classmates it was because she had a desire to beat up her classmates. And she did want to kill Araragi.

>>133868090
Everyone is a bloodthirsty murderer held in check by empathy, laws, and social pressures.

>>133868559
See a psychiatrist please.

>>133867829
How would Shinobu react if you snuck up on her while she was sleeping like this and just punched her right in the stomach as hard as you could?

>>133868510
>>133868517
Being angry =/= trying to kill and cripple other people. Simple anger won't motivate you to do that. That has to be a facet of your personality to begin with, you have to be predisposed to violence.

>>133868567
What exactly is wrong with what I said?
If you can gain something by killing someone else it would only make sense to do it.
We just have layers of biological, sociological and cultural restrictions so we don't do whatever we want and try to not hurt the group and others in it.

>>133868664
>If you can gain something by killing someone else it would only make sense to do it.
You might be a psychopath.

>>133868681
No anon. Because I have empathy towards other people and would feel bad hurting them.

How are you not getting this?

>>133868538
Like all the others you make this immediate leap from anger to violence. Like that's a natural thing, to violently beat people until they are crippled or dead, just because you hate them. It's not. That's not a normal response to anger.

>>133868681
No, you're just an idiot. That sort of thing is animal instinct. People don't act on instinct and it of course is not acceptable to act on instinct because of all the things >>133868664 mentioned.

You're trying to make this way more simple than it really it is when we're talking about how basic human nature was formed.

>>133868743
I don't have murderous intent toward people around me. I don't think "gee it sure would be convenient if I didn't have empathy, then I could just murder and rape my way to happiness!" because I'm not fucking psychotic. I don't have a predisposition toward violence, I don't see violence as an acceptable solution to my problems, regardless of how I feel toward a person.

>>133868743
If you think whatever you can gain is worth more than someones life then you are a psychopath

>>133868756
Anon it is natural to go from anger to violence.
We don't do that because we have restrictions we place on ourselves because we don't like violence.

>>133868756
I'm just saying what was in the story.

>>133868797
Do you understand what empathy actually is? Because from your post, it doesn't really seem like you do.

>>133868792
Sorry, but violently attacking people is not normal behavior. It's not a question of being held in check by empathy, normal people do not even consider attacking people. It's not something they have to run through their empathy check first, it never enters their mind. They don't think "Huh I could pay for this, or I could smash this guy's face into the counter and run, but I better not" because that's how a psychopath thinks.

>>133868797
Where the hell did I say I don't like my empathy?
I like being able to feel close to people. I like that I don't want to hurt other people and a part of me is firmly set against doing that.

If someone would come up to me and offer to take it away I would decline it without question.

I don't think violence is a solution to anything.
Neither does monkey.
But the paw changed that. It's that simple.

>>133868868
Empathy is what lets you understand other people. It does not in anyway excuse your apparently psychotic bloodlust.

>>133868871
You fundamentally misunderstand empathy anon.

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What sort of interaction would Kanbaru and Yotsugi have?

>Yotsugi
>Loves muscles, Kanbaru has plenty
>Kanbaru
>Loves cute girls, Yotsugi is plenty

>>133868885
>But the paw changed that.
Excatly, it created within her murderous feelings. This is what I've been saying the whole time. You people were saying it only removed inhibitions, but that implies she was already a murderous person. She's not. The paw made her one.

>>133868871

Not even that guy but you dont have to actively think about something to have thought about it at a subconscious level.

>>133868900
What the hell are you even saying now?
I can't even begin to unravel your rambling.

>>133868914
As do you, if you think it's a magical counterweight to your violent impulses. It's not. It's just your ability to connect with people. If the only thing holding your violence in check is the fact you connect with people, you're still a fucked up person for having those impulses in the first place.

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Anyone have the webm of this scene?

I wouldn't mind making one, but if someone already has it then it would be easier

>>133868929
It did not create the feelings. It just tried to grant them.

>>133868929
Okay well you're wrong.
Go watch the arc again.

>>133868970
I think he just fundamentally misunderstands the argument, thinks that we're accusing him of being a blood-thirsty murderer, and thus started taking it really personally.

>>133868977
Anon how do you know what impulses you have subconsciously? What are you claiming to be?

>>133868756
If you have 99.9% normal desires and a .1% desire to hurt the people who were bullying you, Rainy Devil ignores the 99% and makes you enact the .1%

>>133868938
If you get to the point where you are considering murder you have gone beyond the point of unconscious, you are consciously considering violence. In this case if you have to come up with excuses not to kill somebody you're definitely not a normal person.

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>>133869010
I think he thinks we're accusing monkey of being a bloodthirsty murderer when we're not.
She's just a girl with conflicting ambivalent feelings.
And a lot of self hate.

>>133869058
Who said we are consciously contemplating murder?

>>133869034
Impulses are easy to recognize, because you suddenly get an urge to do something. An urge to masturbate, to eat something, sometimes you get an urge to slap somebody if you're angry with them. These are all pretty normal urges.

The urge to beat somebody to a bloody pulp isn't. The urge to murder somebody isn't. In the first place, actually carrying these out requires you to go a step beyond impulse and into calculated violence. Anyone who seriously carries these things out has a cold blooded and psychotic personality.

>>133869058
Nobody is talking about actively planning out or envisioning murder, you enormous retard. We're talking about subconscious instinct.

>>133869102
We're not talking about crimes of passion here, we're talking about the desire to hunt down and kill somebody. Premeditated murder, cold blooded killing. That's what Kanbaru did to Araragi after her "inhibitions were removed". She didn't just lash out in anger, she methodically hunted and tried to kill him. If that was all 100% her own feelings, you're saying she's a bloodthirsty killer at heart.

>>133869146
The paw took her moment of passion and made her act it out. She never planned out a murder herself. This is not that hard to get.

>>133869187
Now you're just tacitly agreeing with me. Kanbaru had no real desire to kill or even attack Araragi. Because she's not a psychopath. The paw seized on her negative feelings and twisted them into a murderous intent that made her carry out an act of cold blooded aggression which was entirely alien to her personality.

>>133869058

Your not good at reading comprehension are you? If your thinking of something subconsciously your not actively thinking of it. The brain in its ordinary routines goes I THINK I SHOULD ROB THIS PLACE NO FUCK BAD IDEA DONT SEND TO THOUGHT PROCESSING. Then the whole idea is trashed before it actually gets thought about. Shit like empathy and fight or flight is handled in situations like that.

>>133869107
You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

If you have empathy you can't be a psychopath.
Please go back to your Psych 101

>>133869317
>The brain in its ordinary routines goes I THINK I SHOULD ROB THIS PLACE NO FUCK BAD IDEA DONT SEND TO THOUGHT PROCESSING.
Sorry but no. Ordinary people don't have the impulse to rob stores, only violent thugs do. My impulses are more along the lines of
>I'm hunger, get something to eat
>no not that, something tastier
>eat the sweets, do it
>gotta shit
>go to the bathroom
>gotta fap
>take your dick out
>save that pic even though you'll never look at it again
Etc.

I don't have impulses for violent, criminal behavior. If you think all people do, that says more about you and your issues.

>>133869368
You are talking out of your ass.
You have no idea what people's minds are like.

Please stop this armchair psychology.

>>133869364
Your sidetrack has nothing to do with this discussion. If you keep insisting that the urge to assault and murder people is normal then I reiterate my suggestion to see a therapist.

>>133869406
I have an urge to kill you now.

Does that count?

>>133869404
>calls me an armchair psychologist
>while insisting like an edgy teenager that everybody wants to secretly commit crimes
Sorry kiddo, you're just fucked up. Normal people don't have impulses to harm others on a daily basis. There are three types of people in this world: those who would be good people even if there were no laws, and those who are only good because of the laws, and those who are bad regardless of the laws.

I'm of the first category. You're clearly the second.

>>133869454
I'm confused where laws come into this.
I'm pretty sure we didn't mention them at all.

It sounds like, once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>133859905
>start downloading episode while cooking dinner
>downloads in under a minute
I barely even got a chance to start cooking

>>133869513
I guess I'll refrain from using metaphors since it confuses you. Basically you are amoral and assume all people are like you. You chalk it up to "natural instincts" or whatever else to excuse yourself so you don't have to own your violent personality. Which is why you can say things like "all people secretly want to murder each other" with a straight face.

>>133869368
READING COMPREHENSION

My entire point is that the brain will generally filter out stupid ideas and not send them off to get thought about. There is no urge to do something if before its thought about the whole notion is scrapped.

The whole i feel an impulse happens when this filter is broken which is where mentally unstable people come from. Their I SHOULDNT KILL THIS GUY filter is broken. The initial spark of thought still happens in everyone but most people have the proper subconscious filter to delete the whole thing before it goes anywhere.

READING COMPREHENSION

>>133869619
How can anyone be this retarded? None of said we want to murder anyone. We're saying that all humans have that subconscious instinct. Everyone balks at it and doesn't do that BECAUSE we have morals.

>>133869630
If your brain is continuously creating violent solutions to problems you are just a violent person.

>>133869657
It apparently doesn't count unless we never have that thought even enter our amygdala when we go though the initial friend/foe/mate response.

That anon >>133869619 sounds like he knows what he's talking about so I think we should listen to him.

>>133869657
See, there you go again, projecting your psychosis on everybody else so you don't have to be the only one. Well you're not the only one, but your kind are a minority.

If you have an instinct to murder somebody you're a naturally murderous person and that's all there is to it.

>>133863970
The studio that animated Katanagatari might pull it off.

I have a feeling that in the last 8 posts in this thread 6 have been from the same asshole "pretending" to be retarded.

>>133869769
Murderous intent of the variety that makes you pursue somebody and try to kill them, i.e. coldblooded murder, is not something that can exist in a person unless they are already a murderous person.

>>133869710
Pretty cool nonsequitur you got there, anon. That post makes no assertions as to the frequency of such urges.

>>133869866
>Murderous intent of the variety that makes you pursue somebody and try to kill them
Nobody is talking about that. Why can't you read?

>>133869899
That's what this whole discussion is about. Kanbaru didn't just suddenly attack, she stalked her victims and brutally beat them. That's coldblooded murder. You're suggesting that kind of desire exists in her, then extrapolated that "it's normal," implicitly stating all people harbor a desire to stalk and kill others like a psychopath.

>>133869879
If your brain doesn't generate violent solutions to problems on an instinctual level then it's not normal and they are aberrations. So which is it? Are people naturally violent or is violent behavior an aberration?

>>133869933
Holy shit. Nobody is saying that Kanbaru would do any of that if left to her own devices. If anything, Kanbaru is kind of a moralfag.

She was angry and felt like she wanted Araragi to "disappear." The paw manifested that with all the stalking and murder.

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The more screen time Doll gets, the more I like her.

That phenomenon usually ends after the 3rd appearance, but in this case it's not stopping. She's jumped all the way from bottom tier in Nise to top 3 now.

>>133869975
That's what I've been saying the whole time, yet you and everybody else kept insisting she was already a murderer in her mind and the paw just took away her inhibitions and let her actually do it.

>>133870011
Everyone is saying that she wished for Araragi to die. Which you can't argue with, as that's what is literally said in the story. But she would not have acted on that without the paw.

>>133870011

> the paw just took away her inhibitions and let her actually do it.

Because thats what it did. It cut out the moral filters and caused her to act on the subconscious urges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thought
>Rachman's survey of healthy college students found that virtually all of them had intrusive thoughts from time to time, including impulses to violently attack, hit, harm or kill a person, small child, or animal

Now shut the fuck up and lets get back to posting cute vampires.

i thought oogi boogi would be more interesting but so far she's been pretty bland

at least cat's improved significantly since the series started

Kanbaru stalking Araragi wasn't part of planning to murder him, but in order to check up on him because of her wishing on the paw and fearing the result. Rainy Devil didn't need to stalk him.

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>>133870190
You're bland.

And so ends another round of "Impulsivity and You"

I'm sure we'll be back next week for the next round.

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>>133870218
They'd be the worst girl if they didn't have "I taught you math once and had parental issues like half of the other characters".

>>133870318
also since someone's probably going to complain
>streaming
my university has some new dumb firewall thing that kills the internet if you try to torrent

I should fix that image though I don't remember it looking that shit.

>>133870167
That "wish" was a base emotional feeling, not a true contemplation of murder. She did not harbor true murderous intent sufficient to motivate her to kill a person.

>>133870176
>Because thats what it did.
It clearly did more than that, or you are calling Kanbaru a murderous person. To attack Araragi the way she did requires premeditation, in other words she had to mentally kill Araragi before actually doing it. To make it even more clear it would not be possible to attack him in that fashion without possessing a murderous intent sufficient to motivate her to the act of killing.

In scenario A, Kanbaru is not a murderous person and did not have a preexisting intent strong enough to motivate her to kill somebody, and the paw instilled this into her, which explains her actions.

In scenario B ( your scenario) Kanbaru already intended to kill Araragi and the paw merely pushed her into going through with it.

>>133870372

>Now shut the fuck up and lets get back to posting cute vampires.

READING COMPREHENSION

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>>133870318
What?

Are you somehow confusing Spooky and Math?

>>133870441
I'm not the one who started this argument.

Owari is the worst in the series so far
(besides Hana probably). It's got some good moments but it's just not engaging me that much. Still comfy, but I'm kind of disappointed in it.

>>133870448
No I'm saying spooky is saved from being dead last only because math exists.

Nice art though.

>>133870357
Don't worry, I'm just gonna assume you're not technologically proficient enough to XDCC the episodes like a non-retard.

>>133870554
I mean I could try but it's very picky as to what it thinks is torrenting. Half the time I try to play tf2 it shuts down the internet.

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>>133870318
Your taste is honestly terrible, but then since you also posted a bait pic that makes you need to preemptively explain your whole life situation instead of just not posting it you might be retarded as well.

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I had completely forgotten that Kanbaru was so crazy about Shinobu.

>>133870465

Shinobu mail has already saved owari for me. All the ougi fuckers were a bit annoying, it was one of the driest seasons thusfar if it were just that.

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>>133870465
That would be because you have shit taste.

Both Hana and Owari are great.

>>133867215
She's not serious. Also she's guilty as fuck for trying to kill Araragi and that's her way of trying to make things right for him.

>>133870465
it's been easily the best one cour in the series.

>>133872013
What is this gif? Why would someone make this?

>>133872013
>gave up 15 seconds in

Why would someone make this?

>>133863970
>Slower pacing
is that even possible

>>133867215
This is like the lesbian virgin of gay jokes between straight friends or something. She's just fucking around and at this point, she and Ragi have discovered how bro-tier the other is and are basically best buds now that the whole Rainy Devil thing is through with.

>>133872179
Monogatari has some pretty fast paced directing.
KyoAni always has a more gentle slower pace so the slow story would be even slower.

Like Mushi but not episodic and more puns.

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>>133872013

>>133872320
will never not like this reaction face.

>>133871638
Please keep these top tier Monkey screenshots coming.

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>>133872520
I don't have many from last episode, mostly just stuff other people posted.

>>133871073
Kanbaru wants to slam clams with all the cute girls she sees.

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>>133872581
That's so crude anon. She doesn't want to do something so vulgar.

>>133872686
Embracing leads to lewd.

>>133864852
this is where it pays off to use commie

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>>133872780
>mfw she'll be straddling shinobu before the arc is done

Kanbaru is the hero anime deserves

Remember that not just Ougi lost to the tits of Cat but we too!

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53581979

What could have been!

>>133872686
Anon, that's a euphemism. It means she wants to get fucked by her.

>http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E6%8A%B1%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8C%E3%82%8B
>女性が男性と肉体関係を持つことを指す場合も多い。
Sure, the 男性と part doesn't apply, but it's what she meant.

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>>133873276
That image implies that Ougi would try to convince Sodachi to dress up like Cat did. And then make her go with her threats.

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>>133873312
I can't into nip so I'll just take your word for it.

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>>133872138
>gave up 15 seconds in
Here's a webM of the same thing but it's 8x speed.

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>>133872587
STOP
POSTING
.GIFS

>>133873443
Okay but my question still stands.

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>>133866351
i never thought i would see someone do kumins dance better than kumin, i was wrong

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I've been masturbating to Kanbaru nonstop since last week's episode. Especially that one where she rapes Crab. Fuck this should be illegal.

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>>133873922
She rapes crab?

>>133873922
Valhallagatari 1 and 2 are the best Doujins to come out of the series.

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>>133874082
I agree.

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I was worried about the quality of this arc after last week's episode, but this episode was great.

>>133874177
What was wrong with last weeks episode?

>>133861185
That remember me a leg lock....and I cry

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>>133872520

>>133862977
>We'd end up with a slightly prettier Ararararagi talking shit for a quarter of an hour as a static image.
So SHAFT Monogatari?

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>your waifu will never get a self sung OP
Damn you music contracts.

>>133875506
nigger are you for real? Say whatever else you want about the monogatari series, but it's clear to anyone with a brain that shaft's visual direction is a key part of the show's unique feel and what makes it interesting to watch despite its dialogue-heavy nature

This arc seems like shit after the godly Ougi shenanigans.

This arc is so good after the shitty Ougi shenanigans.

This arc is kind of okay after the relatively uninteresting sodachi shenanigans.

I don't know how to feel about this arc.

>>133860561
>hmm I wonder how we could animate this passage where she says "eat me up"
>we could cover her in food to illustrate her line
>or we could make it into a blatant fanservice scene
What the fuck goes on at Shaft?

>>133860561
>>133862707
>Kanbaru getting sexualized to hell, again, for the 10005th time
>still lolis can't be shown proper fanservice because muh morals
Anime has become shit.

>>133876273
Money making.

>>133876273
>shaft makes the visuals that accompany a blatantly sexual line blatantly sexual
>autists are somehow surprised and angry

>>133876499
If you thought that line was sexual, you're fucked in the head.

>>133876644
Tell me then, what do you think "eat up" meant?

>>133876739
I think she meant it as in "ask as many as you want".

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>>133876644
>>133876644
>>133876644
>>133876644

How the fuck is it even possible to be this autistic

>>133876644
Are you the guy who said araragi walked crab home gently?

What was Shinobu talking about with Kanbaru? I need to rewatch everything, it's been too long for me.

>>133876803
For reference: what do you think Senjougahara meant by "please be gentle with me" at the end of Karen Bee?

>>133876843
I don't remember the exchange but that was sexual, yes.

>>133866688
The only solution is to have a threesome with Crab, Cat and monkey while RRRGi gets left out.

>>133876843
Or when Hitagi told him to wait until tomorrow to leave in Tsuki.

>>133876901
So why does "eat (me) up" translate into "ask as many requests as you like" but couldn't possibly translate to "go ahead and fuck me because I know that's what you would ask for" even after Kanbaru directly offered to have sex with Araragi multiple times last episode?

>>133876843
>>133877011
These were blatant, but "eat me up" was not.

>>133877060
It's too late to get an ebin reaction chain going on. You can stop pretending now.

>>133876843
"Walk me home gently."

>>133877052
How would that work though?

>in regard to the favours you ask
>I only have one thing to say
>eat me up
How does this turn into eat my ass up?
She's talking about Araragi asking her favours, how do those two link together?
And no, it's not by Araragi asking her the favour of eating her up because he wouldn't do that.

>>133877136
Don't get witty now.

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>>133876843
Something like this.

>>133877212
Eat me up literally means oral sex.

>>133877212
>And no, it's not by Araragi asking her the favour of eating her up because he wouldn't do that.
Sometimes, when you're teasing someone, you exaggerate someone's characteristics and pretend as though those exaggerated characteristics are true. Here Kanbaru is exaggerating Araragi's horndog nature with the pretense that all he thinks of while near her is having sex with her. That's the joke. That's why she said the line.

>>133877297
So you're saying :

>in regard to the favours you ask me
>oral

Don't you think it's a bit far fetched?

>>133877377
>>133877386

>>133877386
She's been doing things like that forever. That's just her personality.

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>>133877386
>mfw Kanbaru is literally 2deep and complex of a character for anons to understand.

>>133877386
How is that far-fetched when she has been jokingly asking Araragi to fuck her since Bake?

>>133877448
That's true, but even then, it would've been funnier and subtler if she was coveted in food.

>>133869075
>ambivalent feelings
>picture
I see what you did there.

>>133877510
Because the lines don't go together well if that's what she means.

>>133877528
You would be right about that. It would make add a pun to the mix making it kind of witty.

>>133877582
>>133877510
I wonder if it's more blatant in Japanese or what.

>>133877582
But "eat me" has been used in a sexual sense for ages in Japanese media.

>>133877597
It's not even a pun anymore. It's just slang at this point. No need to try to pretend it's some sort of witty joke.

>>133877669
It would still be funnier if they forced the pun, cause just as you said, overused raw slang isn't entertaining.

>>133877669
If she was covered in food you would get a sense that you're supposed to take the word literally even though it doesn't make sense that way. That is what makes it funny.

>>133876289
And Kanbaru sexualizing is a bad thing how?

>>133877775
It isn't. The bad thing is that they always go the extra mile for her, but never do the same for lolis.
Not that it's surprising in today's anime industry, but still a bad thing.

>>133867523
tony?

>>133876273
I don't understand. Why can't you just cover her in food and make it into a fanservice shot? She could basically be doing a Nyotaimori in this instead of the boring ribbons shot we actually got.

>>133877923
Lewd food Kanbaru when?

>>133877746
>>133877763
It's overused to the point of no longer being a joke. Acting like it is a joke would just look pathetic to their intended audience. Just let the fanservice be fanservice.

>>133877923
Is the only decent complaint about those shots in the thread.

>>133877923
Apply for a job at Shaft and stop complaining.

>>133877962
You're exaggerating, it's not overdone.

I want to bully Shinobu

>>133859905
Anyone know when the first OP is coming out?

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>>133878084
Be careful about how you do it. You don't want to get punked on the counterattack.

>>133878141
decent black and Atogatari comes out on 12/23.
http://vgmdb.net/product/1757

>>133878349
Ah I see why it's coming out a bit later. Releasing with the Vol 1. BD's.

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>>133878205
Don't worry. Bullying Shinobu is my specialty.

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Hammer's Ougi so touchable and great.

Also I translated a thing.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2176294

Read it if you want, or don't. Don't get the wrong the idea, it's not like I translated it for you or anything, /a/.

Dummy.

>>133878546
>he doesn't recognize that style
>>>/out/

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>>133878546
>Not recognizing artstyle.

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>>133878546
Raita+Bakemonogatari

>>133879923
>>133879982
>>133880087
Raita's style is gross and shit. Does anyone actually like his work?

>>133880293
big tits with ribs showing is my fetish. Not obscenely huge tits, but nicely sized.

>>133880293
Guess I know who's not going to like new Selvaria clone for new VC game.

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With all the in-series JJBA references recently I'm not sure how I forgot about this image until now.

>>133876289
>>133877813
Its just the law.

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>>133862472
same

>>133859905
XO

>>133864001
A boy falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

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>>133882698

>>133874082
>not Suruga Drive
Dear diary, today anon was a ginormous faggot.

>>133882698
God damn /a/ writes anime again

>>133868756
Rainy devil gets as deep as you can get. She wished to have Hitagi, but deep down what she really desired was araragi out of the picture. The Rainy Devil made that happen.

>>133882855
>implying Suruga Drive or Test have shit on Valhallagatari.

I would tell you to go kill yourself but I just know you'd come back as an oddity powered by the collective shit taste of people who believe Suruga Drive is better than Valhallagatari.

>>133883068
Valhallagatari's for degenerates, and I say this as someone who enjoys parts of Netoraregatari.

>>133883033
>She wished to have Hitagi

You give Kanbaru too much credit. She didn't even wish for that. She just wanted to be back in the situation she was in during Middle School with Senjougahara.

She should have wished to be with Senjougahara. It would have been much less roundabout to what she wanted in the end.

>>133883088
>and I say this as someone who enjoys parts of Netoraregatari

Opinion discarded. True shit taste confirmed.

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>>133869979

>>133883068
>I would tell you to go kill yourself
And I would tell you lead by example.

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>>133883275
What the hell are you looking at

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I have no clue what this anime is about, but I am intrigued by the cat that apparently is from that anime (pic related)

Is this cat in this series?

>>133883441
Yes and she is the fourth best girl.

>>133883441
It has about a total 30 minutes of screen time in an 80 episodes long series.

Why did Cat wash her hair?