Can this guy get any more fucked up than he already is?
Find out that everything with Hide was a lie.
Or that it wasn't a lie, but that Hide has also messed with him mentally in order to make him see the value in living.
I want to be killed and eaten by Centipede-kun
What if Kaneki's mother hit him because he kept asking for his father, but the man left the family and his mother became frustrated and had to hit him many times to discipline him?
I don't think she enjoyed hitting her son.
>being left alone by husband
>raising a child alone
>has to give her sister money constantly
Those things can turn into frustration and Kaneki's demands could stress her into hitting Kaneki. Like she died due to over-work and stress.
Right in the fucking kokoro.
I didn't ask for this.
> Superior taking his younger female co-worker on dates
Thats my fucking fetish. Fuck you Ishida.
Why would you hurt this smile?
Goddamn, Akira gave more of a shit about who was brutally murdering Haise than she did about the fact Haise was being brutally murdered.
I hope revived Kaneki can appreciate how blatantly his emotions were being manipulated. CCG is scum.
I still don't get what she means by that.
Perhaps she means her individuality will die, just like Noro? And then she will just be Eto's dog
Kanae's already her dog. I used to discuss with an anon aobut Eto's kagune being parasyte. If Kanae dies then it is very horrible at how toxic her kagune is.
The Rosewald family has to live on somehow.
>Wants to be love
>Considers getting abused a form of affection and love
>Wants to die cool
No you idiot if anything he'll be even worse about it.
He might even want daddy Arima to kill like he wanted before Hide gave him just enough will to live.
Tell me, you hear your friend being murdered over the radio, you think you recognize the voice of the person murdering him.
Do you care more about the fact your friend is being murdered? Or about the fact you kind of recognize the voice?
>shitposter starts posting this in every TG trhead
>next chapter reveals that kaneki's mother was abusive like Arima's
How long until Kaneki/Haise starts defending Yamori and painting them as a decent person in his mind?
Are we sure she's not referring to Haise?
Why would she intervene if she just wanted Kanae to die? Haise was about to knock in Kanae's shit anyway before Eto intervened.
I hope the clowns get some more spotlight soon. They're always present in the manga but never the main focus. That has its charm and that's one of the reasons why they're good but I want to know more about them.
Haise was screaming in agony as the person he's fighting is talking about how he's been filled with holes.
Haise almost died that fight, and would have if not for Hinami intervening -the moment she heard Haise screaming-. Akira couldn't have given two shits if Haise died, while a ghoul Kaneki arguably knew for a smaller period of time than Haise knew Akira threw her lige at Aogiri away to save an investigator.
How can you say Akira gives a shit about Haise, considering that?
She wants to see Haise "totter".
It's no good if he isn't pushed as far as he can be. And she's definitely talking to Kanae, considering how the translated dialogue line up with the page's speech bubbles.
Akirafags are so fucking delusional. Its not like any of us are going to think worse of her for this. Personally I find it admirable that she can play such a role for someone she despises. It shows what a great professional she is and how she doesn't let her emotions dominate her.
I'm really curious what Eto's goal with Kaneki is now. He seemed like an amusing side-gig to her up until now, but this chapter pretty much throws that right out the fucking window.
I'm half expecting Itori to be the real boss of the group if it's anyone out of the people we already know.
We know it's not Uta. If Furuta is Souta he said "damned boss doesn't understand anything" in that one scene where he was playing bait for the ghouls. Knowing Ishida it was probably meant to have a double meaning and Furuta was referring to his Pierrot boss making him act as a CCG investigator and not Kijima.
Roma doesn't seem like the type to be the boss.
That leaves either Nico, Itori or someone behind the scene. I doubt they'd refer to either Itori or Nico as "the boss" considering how familiar they all seem with each other, but if it's someone I'm betting it's Itori.
I'm guessing Kaneki has a background fairly similar to hers, there's a reason why she was Kaneki's favorite author: they have the same outlook on life.
The only difference is that Kaneki wants to save people, Eto likes to toy with them.
I'm leaning more towards Nico. I think that Ishida would have dedicated more time or at least foreshadowing to Itori if it were her. It is, however, somehow suspicious that she hasn't been around much, especially since Pierrot members have all been getting some attention.
Itori and Souta seem like the shadiest members of the clowns. Souta's clearly supposed to be different from the bunch, even the poker cards are pointing towards it. Itori's been completely in the background. Either Ishida just doesn't care about her or he has something planned for her.
English translation Ishida's
tumblrpost earlier. Seems relevant to this chapter.
“The Sky Falls”
I had a dream where the sky fell down.
The bloodstains won’t come out, no matter how many times I pour warm water on them, they won’t come out.
Only words begin to dissolve everything, and get stuck in the drain.
And you become unable to forgive yourself, unforgiving.
I had a dream.
A failure of a God
She laughed and squeezed my throat.
It’s always like this.
Only people dull to pain hurt me.
She truly loved me,
Only she didn’t know how to love.
What a stupid God.
My nerves grow strangely and pierce through my skin.
All at once they sing out.
Far away, someone laughs. Soon, it’s not even my voice any more.
My brain becomes transparent, and there’s nothing I can’t see.
On knowing the things you didn’t know, you die.
I had a dream where the sky fell.
A checkerboard sky.
Squashed by it, I died.
Yes, I wished for that.
I'm gonna go and do some wild speculation here. Prepare for bullshit.
If we're going by the poker card pattern Souta's supposed to be a rinkaku. He also has dark purple hair or whatever and when he dropped that shit on Rize she seemed familiar with him. Don't ask me why, but I have a strong feeling they're siblings or related in some way.
I'm completely reaching here but I'm going with my gut instinct.
Is Eto saying that Haise can't be anyone but himself? He has to fight his own way instead of suppressing himself so much- he can still do autism dodges and footwork but can't neglect his half ghoul speed and strength like he does.
Why is Shironeki so bipolar?
>I want you to make people love us then die heroically so we can end this suffering like a badass!
about 20 or more chapters ago:
>I-It's not like a want you to die so I can take over...b-baka!
beginning of :re:
>SAY NAME! I WANNA FUCK SHIT SO SAY MY NAME!
though I do admit that the last one was shown to be Kakuja Kaneki, not Shironeki and even in TG kakuja Kaneki was a large contrast from Kaneki
What is that junk emerging from Haise's shoulders
The God is supposed to represent his mother I believe. He's talking about how his mother loved him but in an abusive way "she truly loved me only she didn't know how to love".
>I want you to make people love us
I read that as
>I want to us to make love
Anyway, the "shironeki" in Haise's mind isn't a real person, but an extension of Haise/Kaneki's psyche.
His changes correspond with Haise's development and changes.
It's possible Rize was affiliated with the Clowns at one point, but she left because she preferred being solo. So the Clowns killed her.
A lot of the shit Rize did was for shits and giggles, just like the Clowns, so I can see it being true.
Does this look like the face of mercy to you?
Speaking of this.
All the clowns got 8 in tokyo ghoul trump. I know that's supposed to represent power and order. Souta on the other hand got five of hearts, iirc 5 is supposed to represent adventure, seeking pleasure, change and freedom right? That fits him.
He looks so happy now that he's awake. Our prince has returned from his eternal sleep.
kek, tumblr unironically defends child abuse.
Holy shit it's like you don't know how to read. That isn't saying child abuse ISN'T bad, it is say that just because she did bad things doesn't mean she as a whole was a bad person.
CCG lost quite a bit at the top:
Ass. Special Class Kijima
First Class Hairu
First Class Shimoguchi
2 fodder First Class that were with Hairu and Kijima
And who knows if Noro will grab a Quinx.
Anyone else getting a classical vibe from the way Ishida is drawing clothes/cloaks? They're really beautifully done.
Souta is way more committed though. You get wined, dined and fucked with the promise of marriage before you get eaten. He delivers the full experience, Rize just gives you the demo.
Here is his Kakuja, I don't care if you make it part phoenix or fungus, but it needs to keep this.
im redrawing eto and then coloring, but I have a question, should I draw the bandages or leave the tits out?
Fuck the ass, man.
Fuck the ass.
I would ravage these tits!
The only happy moments were with Hide, who gave him just enough will to live.
And Re shows how that turns out.
Can anyone post a list of the books referenced in TG, and if they're actually worth checking out?
Wanting to die in a way that feels cool after he's been loved by others instead of living with those who care about him is the thought of someone who is suicidal.
He wanted to die against Arima despite having failed to protect anyone at the end of TG because it would be "Cool", but Hide's appearance gave him just enough strength to not die like he wanted.
Kaneki is for the suicide by cop method of death instead of personally trying to kill himself.
I really have to admire him for that. How could he survive kissing and fucking such a fat bitch?
Such a devoted man.
He does care but I think he flips between his personality. One is the wimpy Furuta who really cares about Kijima and the other one is the cold-blood killer, and at latter mode - he doesn't give a shit about anyone.
But what about the Qs? Sure Shirazu made some new bros, Fura and Naoto, and Mutsuki's gotten close to Suzuya and his squad, but Saiko and Urie don't seem close to anyone outside of their own team.
But how is that different from someone wanting to die fighting in a war or something else considered "heroic"?
I'm starting to think this is all just a deconstruction of shonen.
Looks good but her tits look as if she's wearing a bra with them being kinda pressed against each other and the cleavage that is showing. I think it looks more natural having them sag
>you will never walk the streets and find a starving qt3.14 ghoul in a ally way
>you will never bring her home and and chain her in your basement
>you will never give her small chunks of dead people you work with at the morgue
>you will never eat her alive while talking about how ironic that is
>you will never slowly start to become a ghoul from RC cell intake
>you will never ram her tight ghoul pussy with your kakuja enhanced penis
>you will never pull her towards your body a little too much and get bitten
>you will never be pushed to the grown by her newfound power
>you will never stare in to each others eyes as she stands over you with broken shackles on her wrists, thinking about whether she wants to kill you quick or painfully
>you will never make an agreement with her saying that she can stay in your basement with free food if she agrees to be your sex slave
>you will never smirk as she angrily excepts, know that she will try to break out when she fully recovers
>you will never allow her to come up from the basement for one day
>you will never sit with her on the couch watching movies on the night of her one day allowance on the surface
>you will never watch her doze off at the movie where the villain is your son, you have to chose to kill him or nuke Boston
>you will never look at the clock, watching as her time on the surface goes down
>you will never allow her to stay a little longer due to no wanting to wake her
>you will never continue adding on to her time for little reasons
>you will never grow close to her but know she doesn't feel the same
>you will never wake up one morning and notice that she is getting ready to leave
>you will never beg her to stay
>you will never dodge her punches as she shouts at you while crying for ruining her life
>you will never catch one of her punches and pull her in for a kiss you will never look her in the eyes as tell her you want to start over
>you will never cry as she says no and leaves
Shonen heroes are pretty retarded.
Also usually when people go to war its to fight for something they believe in, not to die a heroic death. Those deaths are the byproduct of trying to do something they believe in or felt was right.
In the end Kaneki didn't have that when he faced off against Arima. He just wanted to die and felt it would be a cool death, but he failed to protect anything and he knew it.
She wants the real Kaneki to wake up, since he was their most successful test subject. It would do no good to have him stay as Haise since he won't develop in the way they want him to. That's why they sent Takizawa after him before, now Kanae, and then Eto herself showed up calling him Haise and Kaneki on the same page.
Just to add one more thing:
>My brain becomes transparent, and there’s nothing I can’t see.
Meaning: he's not repressing his memories anymore, he can "see" all of his mind.
>On knowing the things you didn’t know, you die.
That confirms Haise is "dead" or "asleep".
Have I made it simple enough for the kids now?
>hating on Sharkbro
Sharkbro is gonna go ham on Noro. Also Hinami a shit.
>Shonen heroes are pretty retarded.
That's my point, and why I think TG is a deconstruction.
>Also usually when people go to war its to fight for something they believe in
If you thing people fight in wars for their beliefs, you're naive as fuck. Most of the time it's to "fuck shit up" and be cool.
Kaneki said he wanted to die in a cool way so when tg:re was announced it said something along the lines of the birth of a legend could this mean he dies and becomes a legend would be a fitting way to end the tragedy.
So will Kaneki actually die at the end but more in a way of a hero.
Ever heard of sruvivors guilt? After everything he went through to get strong, it all went to naught because it didn't make a difference in the end at v14
And he felt despair, you can't say you wouldn't want to just give up and die after that can you?
>you will never go on the walk that started it all
>you will never foolishly go in to that same ally hoping you would find her
>you will never wake up one day and hear noise
>you will never run to the door hoping it is her
>you will never look down and find a baby
>you will never raise that child
>you will never wait for the day that the whole family can be reunited
Why must we suffer, /a/?
Kaneki always wanted to die. That's mental Kaneki's point. He wants to be loved and then die a cool death.
Having the people he tried to protect die in the end wouldn't change that because he can still have his glorious death.
I hope Noro gets finished off soon. He's lost all his mystery appeal and we've watched him get killed 5 times over if it wasn't for his retarded regeneration.
Hopefully Ui picks up the T-Human on the floor and blast his ass till nothing remains.
>Kaneki doesn't give a shit, he just wants to die gloriously whether it's doing something good or bad.
So then why did he spare a ton of ghoul investigators.
Kaneki has never been amoral.
okay so this is just your headcannon
But so what? Why does that make him suicidal? He's not the type of person to have delusions about living forever. Between a bitch-ass death and a glorious viking death, I know which I would want.
How many of you guys are underaged reddit/tumblerites, by chance?
>Goes back to Kaneki
>Acts as if nothing ever happened so he can get CCG intel
I need some of this.
It's that kind of selfishness that hurts the people around him. Especially he wants to be loved. Those who live have to accept the pain that comes with his death and it comes across as him not giving a shit about their feelings as longs as it makes him happy.
Every one, actually. He hasn't actually killed a single human. And he only killed ghouls he deemed "evil", like the ones at the Ghoul Restaurant, and the mindless zombie experiments at Kanou's lab.
Kaneki literally dindu nuffin.
Being amoral and doing the right thing aren't somehow mutually exclusive.
Kaneki is going through the motions of morality without ever feeling strongly either way about it. Maybe he did, once, but that was before being mindbroken by Yamori.
Now he only cares about people who love him. Good or bad.
>It's that kind of selfishness that hurts the people around him. Especially he wants to be loved. Those who live have to accept the pain that comes with his death and it comes across as him not giving a shit about their feelings as longs as it makes him happy.
With the exception of Hide and Hinami, everyone around him was a murderer, its not like dealing with that was helping with his depression.
Its not good for you when your support is wondering if it is ok for themselves to live.
You mean like what Yoshimura, blackdog, and devil ape and all hundreds of their friends did? They wanted to die a heroic death and got pissed at Kaneki for saving them...well, they died later anyway so good for them.
In context of his position? None, explicitly, the closest he got was when he'd lose self control.
Tsukiyama, the guy would butcher humans so he could enjoy their eyes and the like. He captured and tricked humans to be led to the auction house like chattle.
I'm mentioning this because in Haise's hallucination Kaneki explicitly says he doesn't give a shit whether it's good or bad what he does, just so long as his death is awesome.
He doesn't care about either. He's told Tsukiyama he is ready to kill him at a moments notice, and he's just interested in Rize because he's emulated what he thought her ideals were, it was a big thing for him.
>I'm mentioning this because in Haise's hallucination Kaneki explicitly says he doesn't give a shit whether it's good or bad what he does, just so long as his death is awesome.
He is thinking that now, but he has always acted differently.
Even as late as Kanou's lab he was saddened by the house's story.
He had stopped hating Tsukiyama by the end of Tokyo Ghoul.
>mfw people are still trying to deny Tsukiyama's character development
With Kaneki's mom being revealed as abusive, for all we know Tsukiyama was a better friend to Kaneki than Hide was.
Maybe he did. For Kaneki to like him though, Tsukiyama must have stopped killing. For all we know, he's an alright guy now. Sure his servants murdered and brought him meat, but that eventually made him go kakuja and attack them. We know he pretty much didn't leave the house at all after Kaneki "died".
I took that warning to Tsukiyama as a "you can hang around if you don't murder people"
>complainers in every TG thread about tumblr
>Ishida ends up being tumblr
Tumblr complainers BTFO
Kuzen definitely didn't dislike it. Re-read it.
Also, his nickname is "gourmet" i think that explains his motivations, it's about the food. He's very narcissistic yes (his fucking mannerisms, way of dressing, etc) but not sadistic.
All of Kaneki's old friends have done horrible things.
>Maybe he did. For Kaneki to like him though, Tsukiyama must have stopped killing. For all we know, he's an alright guy now. Sure his servants murdered and brought him meat, but that eventually made him go kakuja and attack them. We know he pretty much didn't leave the house at all after Kaneki "died".
Touka and Yomo still killed people for food.
Only the first time we see Tsukiyama he leaves his victim alive. He took her eyes and then got his booty out of there. IIRC there was talk about how Tsukiyama would take the parts he liked and then leave the person to go do what ever. Ghoul restaurant being a different story.
Are people seriously doing mental gymnastics in order to say that one ghoul is better than the other ghoul when both of those ghouls have at some point murdered people?
Because the only ghoul that never killed anyone, that we know of, is that one guy from the bonus novels.
CCG should make a ghoul orphanage where they can take the innocent child ghouls and raise them like Haise. It'll be just like domesticating wolves into dogs!
>tfw even Tsukiyama used to be just like Hinami
I don't care if ghouls kill people if the people they killed were assholes anyway. If a ghoul bit off Tokage's head I'd be happy.
And people who kill out of necessity are less evil than those who seek to inflict pain and suffering on others for their own amusement. There is a drastic difference between ghouls like Touka and Yamori.
She hadn't unless you count her helping Kaneki hunt.
Hinami's mother. Hinami maybe, but she has assisted Aogiri, so she is just as bad.
Yomo said that he and Touka killed people still when Kaneki was helping get the body of the person who committed suicide.
Yeah, there's a shower scene in the drafts where he can't ged rid of the smell of blood on him. Hinami also notices the smell.
If we're talking about the anime itself then there's a scene where he spares one man's life so he most likely did kill people on a regular basis. Well, at the very least he did assist in killing them, root A's theme doesn’t really work without this.
Well, Takeo got off with only his arm/hand getting damaged, Urie got hit from the back, and Mutsuki was impaled. Makes sense that only the uninjured members remaining would be able to run.
man....for some reason I get the feeling that Tatara is more of the actual leader of Aogiri....Eto gets too invovled in shit like this while Tatara is completely calculating, generally speaking.
I don't think its specified they probably didn't like to talk about it.
Only thing relevant is Touka saying she didn't like old man meat when she killed the man who saw Kaneki's eye.
He does that as a favor for the manager, in the same scene he told Kaneki he and Touka killed people.
Do you guys think Shirazu released all his farms when he head on attacked Noro? I mean the way he said I.... Sassan seemed suspicious. Like he's unlocked something.
Either Shirazu is dead or he released all his frames.
shit, yeah i keep blocking that from my memory.
i'm a faggot who can't get over the fact that even moral ghouls still go out kill people. i wish ishida would show them going out hunting...he does it with the other ghouls.
Arata the best.
>Like the kind that bothers niggastream enough, so they will finally do their job.
>do their job.
Who old are you? IS only said that they are down for it, also this chapter is really hard to clean so fuck off.
In the beginning of the manga, the Quinx were all only at F2. Urie underwent an operation to get to F3, and forcefully broke through to F4. It's been months since then and, since no mention has been made of it, it could be that the doctors judged it was safe and opened up all the Qs to F4. If that's true, compared to the fight against Nishiki, Shirazu's kagune is sure to be stronger now. Plus, he even asked for some personal training from Haise on how to use his kagune.
So, uh, hope for the best?
>Eto: Muhaha, that headpoke just now Arima Kishou would have evaded it, Haise Sasaki kun
Eto and Arima definitely had a past, where they knew each-other as friends.
>i'm a faggot who can't get over the fact that even moral ghouls still go out kill people.
It makes them easier to sympathize with. There is a difference between knowing something and having it shoved in your face.
Its like Hinami joining Aogiri. We have seen her a bit but never seen her do anything that affected an innocent person.
>Child Kaneki was the lead in a play
>I don't want to die
>I want to die after all
>not wanting an entire classroom full of loyal ghouls that metaphorically wag their tails every time they see you
It would work too. Ghoul moms like Ryuko would end up giving their children a life with guaranteed safety, unhunted by Doves or other ghouls. Their children would live a just and more moral life having never killed a human. They would only hurt the bad ghouls targeted by the CCG. I bet even grown ghouls would be tempted to join up. So many of them feel guilty after all! Even Touka wishes she were a human and not a monster.
Don't you think it would be great?
Does anyone know if Kaneki can use his partial kakuja in dire situations or he cant at all cause of the RC suppressants?
Also the chapter after the next:
Kaneki agrees to join Aogiri Tree in exchange for Eto helping save Tsukiyama.
>Eto helping save Tsukiyama.
I don't want Eto to be near anyone after what she did to Kanae. God knows how many people she's turned into kagune puppets. Shit, I don't even like Tsukiyama all that much and I still wouldn't wish that on him.
I think that's the only thing that would legit piss me off at this point.
Want to know how I know you are shallow minded?
You don't think Kaneki is complex faggot?
>B-but muh complex character
A tumblr fanfic level at most.
I've seen better.
>muh marie antoinette syndrome
>muh stockholm syndrom
How about down syndrome and autism? That's Kaneki and YOU
I think the best way to tell the difference is that
>Kaneki wants to be the tragic hero's
>he wants to save everyone and die in the process
>Eto wants to be the author
>she wants to keep making tragic hero's
Oh, we're shitposting now? Cool!
>Kaneki will never be overwhelmed with a sudden instinct driven need to find a strong male ghoul and procreate.
>Kaneki will never be absolutely terrified by the changes brewing within his body.
>Nor will he begin to experiment with his new pussy and budding breasts. His eyes will not clench shut during his first vaginal orgasm as he desperately screams into a pillow. You will never watch as he sobs after the post orgasm bliss fades away.
>Will not rip himself apart in a fit of insanity and only cause himself to become a female even faster.
The ones who get the last laugh are us, the clowns!
/a/ will get pissed off if you use "..." here
The ones who get the last laugh...
is it possible for a real life Kaneki to exist?
Like having a tulpa in your mind that torments you but then you somehow gained the strength to overcome this though and become a new/different permanent persona (black ->white hair kaneki) ?
We had it so lucky with IS and you autists kept complaining. Just think about it. The only way they'd be able to get a chapter out so fast is to all be online at the same time when it's released when all the RAWs are out which is not even possible if you live in a weird timezone and a super co-ordinated response (ie translators translate and then the cleaners typeset but it has to occur in some kind of order - if either your translators or cleaners are busy it could take days for them to respond). MS probably has scanlators all over the fucking place - up down and everywhere and even if they release a chapter it's not going to be their priority - they've fucktons of other high profile mangas. IS was really only known for TG so it was very high on their priority list.
Anon, you're a retard. There's a lot of reasons why, but the one at the top of the list is that you're unhealthily loyal to a group who let their political ideologies get in the way of providing access to entertainment and, by translating TG, are actively discouraging anyone else from doing the same. I still remember how pissed some of them were to find that TH was translating Re; it was disgusting. And toadies like you are worse because of how unapologetically crass you all are at defending everything IS does and how you expect everyone else to roll over and take your shit.
No. I would kiss his forehead after tucking him into bed and making sure there are no monsters in the closet. I would buy him books. I would care for him and make his favorite meal for dinner. I would help him with his homework.
I would be a good mother and not hurt my adorable son.
>IS provider facing jail time for providing us westerners free manga cartoonz
Ahahaha my sides!