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Bursted >>174400103
Play blood.
>>174428632
Stop being a fucking newfag retarded edition. Don't dare you make threads even again, bandwagonner.
>Weebcucks will defend this
http://usamin.love/sv.html#spiderweb_imp
>>174428803
>spiderweb_imp
Nice token
Whoa, so this is the power of tier 1...
Reminder to carress Luna.
Play Master of Canopies
Draw your last pathetic card so I can end this, /svg/
>>174419675
I still need source for this, please
>>174428787
This was the only thread I made in weeks. Don't worry, I'll start making every thread from now on and make sure "edition" is in the OP somewhere everytime just to piss you off.
When you think about it Eachtar is just an otohime and walfrid all for 7 cost.
>>174428803
AWFUL
>>174428990
>>174428803
But it's dubcucks that need to defend complete change of voice and character, as well as lines that are not present in original work. Juicy my ass.
reminder that Eris is Luna's real mother
>Ghosts following Luna are not her true parents
>They even had no magical power in them, thus Luna couldn't inherit her magic from them
>same hair
>same eye colorChapter 8 end Eris restores her memories and her eyes turn same green as Luna's
>>174429054
It's really hard to get to 12 shadows. :^)
>>174429140
Face it man, they are straight improvements. Every normal red blooded man prefers Orthrus' cute English barking to her godawful original engrish.
>>174428986
>Fafnir
At least try to be relevant
>>174428990
S E T O
K A I B A
>>174428632
post dick then you fuck
>>174429348
kys dubcuck
>the wheel battle begins
what did she mean by this?
>>174428803
http://usamin.love/sv.html#lou
How could anyone defend Lou's godawful japanese voice?
Weeb voices are usually better but this is one that is complete shit in jap.
Pika pika pi pika poku. Wtf does gobu say
>>174429348
They are not. English voice is straight awful and annoying, kinda like typical dub of western bitch trying to imitate "anime voice". Fun thing here it's not even necessary since original voice is low and calm so dub completely destroyed character in the process.
And why the fuck are you even bringing up Orthrus when post was about Spiderweb Imp? Though Orthrus english dub is just as awful with fucking barking instead of proper lines.
>>174429002
What piss people off is the Jeanne Storm Haven breakingkeknews. If you look up the archive you'll see it was tested on the first day of release, people just replaced something with her. But it didn't really paid off at all since it was basically the same Storm deck and kind of boring.
>>174429786
She's cuter and her summon line actually fits her lore, unlike the nonsensical and unfunny dub one.
>>174429767
>I will liberate you
HHHHHHHHHHHNG
>>174429786
wtf?
>>174429172
nice headcanon
>>174429786
Hold up faggot. How can you hate such a cute voice?
>>174429956
what the character does jp imp even have, that's the most generic thing I've ever heard
>>174430278
The same goes for the dub, it manages to be completely shit. That's the difference, one is fine and the other is utter Western shit.
>>174430194
>ywn be a cute shota and be liberated of your virginity by Eris
>>174429786
She's a goofy, incompetent magical apprentice. Memes and puns aren't the way to convey these traits, as much as dubcucks would like you to believe so. Her JP voice is exactly as one would expect from such a character.
>>174428632
Vote and tell us a bit about your choice!
http://www.strawpoll.me/12780368/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12780368/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12780368/
>>174430492
>Trying to insult the English spiderweb imp when it's one of the most well-done voices in the game
>>174429956
>English voice is straight awful and annoying, kinda like typical dub of western bitch trying to imitate "anime voice".
Here you basically betray how undersocialized you are and your presence on the autism spectrum
>damn western whores... STOP TRYING TO IMITATE MY CARTOONS. Everyone knows fake western bitches cannot possibly have natural high voices, unlike my japanese angels who obviously talk like 6 year olds in their daily life
>>174430248
It actually fits since Luna's parents are clearly red herring
>>174430531
translate weebs
ToG Ruined this game pretty hard.
tfw desperately trying to resist spending real money so that I can finally get a second deck
>>174430278
Yeah character of slut that some nigger thought up at dubcuck headquarters is much better. There is literally zero reason to think up random lines and change voice tone of cards yet dubshitters responsible for shadowverse try their hardest to fuck shit up as much as they can.
>>174430615
If you like to listen to your own 3dpd burger SJW sister, then it's okay.
How many Tsubakis in """""midrange""""" sword?
>>174430752
Why is Vampy such a fucking slut?
>>174430102
The dub one fits her lore too.
The joke is that she's a freshman introducing herself, but halfway through she remembers that she's named something as retarded as "Emmylou".
anyone has picture of weebs drinking Japanese water and praising it's taste? It would really fit right now
>>174430932
2 is standard.
3 if you hate dragon.
Vania could have been this cool but cygames turned her into a loli top kek
Nice reapers you have there, Luna...
>>174431203
I got you senpai
92018
Need a concede, thanks in advance.
>>174430615
>one of the most well done voices in the game
yes
>mmmm juicy~
>should I suffocate you? suck you dry~?
is one of the most well done voices in the game.
not the most generic shit ever
>>174431203
>japanese water
>good.
Have the true water quality master race.
>>174431578
>finngol piss
>good
>retarded americans wake up
>its another sub vs dub debate
Who could have seen this coming
>>174431098
You say that because you know absolutely 0 of japanese. Lou's undub/dub line are basically the same, but of course JP fits the character much more. Let's not even say the unfunny 'lou is short for lou' joke. That's such horrible humor.
>>174430757
>Yeah character of slut that some nigger thought up at dubcuck headquarters is much better.
You sound completely unhinged.
>>174431773
>...it actually fits her lore, unlike the unfunny dub one
You have autism.
>>174431773
>Lou's undub/dub line are basically the same
It isn't
>>174431314
How the fuck did you ramp 4 mana in 5 turns and still only take 5 damage
>>174431981
Balanced dragon going first, he probably healed with a Fervor and Sybil
>>174429172
But who's the father?
>>174431930
>lore
>implying I'd ever use that word
>>174431935
Only its summon line differs.
>>174429172
this is a twist I can get behind
>>174430531
>post comics
>doesn't understand what it says
So this is power of /svg/-poster
>frogtard summon pepe
>tribunal it
>concede
That deck is a fucking joke. Sword would have positive winrate if people stop playing that shitty deck.
>>174431314
>turn 5 satan
>this is balanced
Japanese dub
>VAMPY CHAN HAS AUTISM CHAN DESU NE CHAN :-D
>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
>TEEHEE SUGOI SUGOI : 3
>G-GAMBARIMASU >W<
English dub
>SKY KNIGHT PREPARE FOR BATTLE
>MY LOYALTY IS IRON CLAD
>BOW BEFORE THE DARK DRAGOON RULER OF THE SKY
>THIS GOLDEN WING WILL END YOU
>>174431981
9hp, +3 from sibyl, +3 from draconic. repeat for any other sibyls or draconics so he have been even lower without dragons stupid heal potential while ramping.
>>174432265
>deck faces its hard counter
>as expected, it gets wrecked by it
>therefore this deck is useless against everything else
Flawless logic you have there
>>174432231
I'll get behind Eris.
>>174432209
>lore
>implying I'd ever use that word
The post I was replying to DID fucking use it, window licker.
>She's cuter and her summon line actually fits her lore, unlike the nonsensical and unfunny dub one.
>>174432414
>Japanese cute duke
>dub I A M POWERLESSS FOR NOWW
Enjoy your Morgan Freeman
>>174432440
I could use Orthrus and Will of the Forest to kill that shitty frog too. You're seriously retarded if you think that deck has positive winrate against anything.
This pink haired faggot comes into the bar and slaps your skeletons on the ass. What do you do?
>>174432440
>>174432652
duel it out
>>174432140
We're not sure, but probably none of the characters we know
>>174432652
is that so~
>sibyl doesn't heal
>bahamut doesn't destroy amulets
>catacomb doesn't buff itself
>eachtar summons skellies instead of zombies
is the game fixed now?
>>174432848
>win 8 games with aggro shadow
>somehow win a game with pepe sword
>l-look I have a 9 winstreak with pepe!! y-you believe me r-right?
>>174428971
Eris_banishing_lunas_board.jpg
>>174432694
Sic the mexicans I packed up to deal with zombies on him.
>>174432848
What are you trying to prove with that screenshoot?
>>174432930
>bahamut doesn't destroy amulets
that way it's not cucked by tribunal
>>174433049
Well make tribunal an exception, because fuck Bahamut.
>>174432940
The joke is on you, I couldn't craft aggro shadow even if I wanted to, I have 0 vials.
>>174432930
>Lightning blast is removed from game
>Bahamut destroys amulets
fixed, t.Havenfag
>>174432694
nerf yurius cygames
>>174433113
>complaining about the most balanced card in the game
>>174431203
http://usamin.love/sv.html#alex
>>174432930
>>bahamut doesn't destroy amulets
It destroy your hand instead. Good.
>>174433146
>1k wins
>still not master
No wonder you think frogsword is good lmao
>>174433020
He said that you can't have a positive win rate with frog, I just proved him wrong by providing a frog win streak
>>174433146
oh you used dragon then
>>174433185
Much Yurious still POWERLESS
>>174433280
so you played with daria or shadow to get 500 wins masters?
>>174433280
1k is acceptable if you only meme
I literally never played meta or tier 1 or even tier 2 decks in ranked
>>174433334
Those 400 dragon wins are all from RoB
>Incorruptible
>Wears clothes that corrupt men
What did she mean by this?
>>174433419
>I literally never played meta or tier 1 or even tier 2 decks in ranked
sure bro, you're so honest you should become a politician
>>174433301
And how can you prove that this is a frog win streak? Do you have a screenshot for the other 6 games ending screen?
>>174433548
Please, as if I could have any high tier deck with these "legendaries".
Not shown:
2 Alexander
2 Rose Queen
1 Olivia
1 Eldwood
2 Imperial Dragoons
1 Zeus
Even my legendaries were given to me to meme by cygames. Memes are in my blood
10/10 pepe t5... B...bu..but my wallet dwagon
>>174433802
I didn't think people would be this autistic about it, if I had known I would have taken a screenshot of the replay screen instead.
>>174434073
>erikafag
of course the lyingfag would be one
>replace cerb with pic-related
>collecting free wins from aggro decks
>actually forced a swordfag to evo-kill it with albert
It's hilarious how effective it is eating up a few skeletons.
Aggro Shadow is the worst deck since Roach OTK/Banner.
Just straight up cancer.
>>174433849
why you need to prove something to shitters netdeckers crysbbs? just let them cry over the meta like retards
I heard this is original art?
>>174434165
but aggro shadow is almost exactly the same as it was in RoB?
>>174434073
I don't think you get it. The replays screen wouldn't have proved a thing either. You would need a screenshot at the end of every match to debunk suspicion.
Which class should I play to stall and rope the game until my opponent concedes
>>174434142
I'm not lying, I literally a folder with hundred pictures of various frog victories, or do you want me to post them to you one by one to you?
>>174434308
Dragon with gorillion heals.
>>174434237
Zombie Party too. Thane is somewhat original too.
>>174434237
Looks really cool. I guess they got the budget on the shit card. Meanwhile...
>>174434465
>Zombie Party
>>174434237
It is. Lots of spells and amulets are original art.
Death Ledger, Pact of Nethergod, Medusa's Gaze, Zombie Party and some others are original SV art.
>>174433920
>muh retarded meme deck
>>174434309
I don't care about your win pics, I'd like to see the stats of your almighty 60% winrate pepe deck
>>174434609
Yes, zombie party. What about it?
WHOS THE MANA CHEAT NOW ROWAN-SAN
>>174434776
>MOOOOOOOOOMMMM
>>174434676
What stats do you want? I'm not some autist who bothers taking statistics of his matches
>>174434717
Me on the right.
>>174434145
you are retarded. cerb is what makes the deck. you get your 11 dmg turn 6 all from hand with her. soulhungry wraith is better than your shit replacement and is guaranteed to get its damage through with ambush.
>>174434145
>replaced one of the best cards in the game for mediocre crap
upvoted, made me laugh
>>174432140
>>174434237
>>174434629
Please, let's refer to "original art" as something that doesn't exists in ROB.
This for example is far away from the subject >>174434465
>>174435041
>>174435170
>going second against aggro decks
Tell me how are you going to use your 11 damage turn 6 when they do it first.
>implying eachtar alone doesn't deal a minimum of 12 damage with 4 1/1s
>storm haven 10 storm damage on turn 5 with a 5/6 on field
totally balanced
>>174428803
SUCC
>>174435243
Death Ledger, Pact of Nethergod, Medusa's Gaze, Zombie Party does not exist in RoB.
>>174435458
Look further. It isn't original just because of small variations.
Memes - Denied
>>174434852
>Making fun of an underpowered deck
?
>>174435623
>nips have confirmed they are original
>n-no, they are not
For what purpose?
>>174435246
>11 damage turn 6
kek I don't even run howl, this is why I hate shadow being tier 1, it brough all you retarded fucks in
>>174435725
>Daria
>Underpowered
Does anyone have that huge essay on why somebody shouldn't play GBF? My GBF shill friend keeps trying to convince me of playing it again.
>>174435682
Nice screenshot against the AI FAG
>>174435754
>trusting wikis
>>174435816
its 2017 grandpa
>>174435847
Just tell him you can't expend the time. GBF takes time, no way around it.
>>174435816
Hello time traveller
>>174435859
>ai
>surrendering
When will they finally make it so games aren't won and lost by whether you go first or second?
>>174436083
When you git gud
>>174435947
>>174435995
Daria only seems less bullshit seemly because Dragon and Shadow have better bullshit than her. Most decks still can't effectively deal with turn 5 Daria board flood.
>>174436159
hello c0.
>>174436083
When they nerf the Shadow Dragon
>>174434260
Calm your tits.
Replays + Visible rank is enough
>>174435847
It's a cashgrab gacha collector. That should be all the reason anyone needs.
>>174436083
>>174436215
when you git gud
>not knowing the feel of winning the aggro shadow mirror going second
>>174436170
>Daria only seems less bullshit seemly because Dragon and Shadow have better bullshit than her. Most decks still can't effectively deal with turn 5 Daria board flood.
Shitty decks maybe
>when you pressure an aggressive dragon into submission
>face shadow
>the opponent didn't redraw
should I just concede first turn
>>174435847
Imagine how disappointed your father would be if he found out you were wasting money on what is essentially literal videogame gambling for the benefit of Niponese kikes
>>174435803
>implying implying
Take a chill pill or something.
>>174435882
>citation needed
13 damage t6 from hand is fair but 2 cards and evo points is to do 11 t6 is not
>>174434676
>>174434142
>>174433802
Kukuku, you doubted me, you all doubted me, but the internet has proven me right. What has been uploaded to the internet, stays there forever. So all I had to do was go back into the past.
>>174436793
>my class bullshit is fine
>but others' aren't
mainers in a nutshell
Liza is so cute
http://usamin.love/sv.html#elf_girl
>>174437047
>no shadow
Literally a lucky streak.
>>174437360
dragon wards and aoe deal with pepe better than shadow unless the shadow draws a perfectly timed orthus
>>174437360
But that is what frog is dear, anon.
If you get lucky and all you face is dragon and other assorted shit such as rune, blood etc, then you will gifted with a massive win streak.
But if you get unlucky and face only against shadow and haven, you be cursed with a massive lose streak.
It really depends on the day.
Besides once the inevitable nerf hits Shadow, this deck will be only more viable
Right?
>>174437463
Shafow doesn't need to deal with Pepe. They just rush your ass down since you don't do anything for 3 turns.
Glory be
>>174437576
yes
>>174437576
Right. Aegis isn't worth the dead weight Eidolon is. Grail is also a win con and Jeanne is decent.
>>174436793
>6 card and an evo for t6 13 damage
>2 cards and an evo for t6 11 damage
Hmmm, I wonder which one is more cancerous.
why is everyone in this general always so mad compared to the others?
>turn 10
>dragon at 6hp I'm at 2hp with 1evo
>don't have lethal
>maid draw albert
>1 damage off of lethal no matter what I do
>play albert
>immediately concedes
Man, I love albert. People just expect the worst immediately.
>>174437676
>candelabra
>>174437771
because this game used to be fun and now it isn't
>>174437771
Shadowverse is declining. Really hard.
>>174437576
t2 is fucking retarded now. Nothing worst than facing Ouroboros and similar shit.
Do you guys feel like this list hates too much on dragon and doesn't do enough vs shadow? I feel like it's alright vs sword, blood and forest too
>>174437930
Yeah, because perfect curve Sword, basic evolve followers and crafts being unplayable because of how much shit they got in Standard was so much better.
T2 is much better than what it was pre-TotG.
TOO SLOW
>>174437463
Not at all.
The only Aoe they use is Salamnder's breath on turn 6, which a simple evolve or health buff (fencer) can save frog from. Of course they have aoe banish/grimnir at 10pp, but by then its usually too late, you are supposed to finish before that.
Granted, dragonewt fist would be really good at killing frog, but nobody runs that other than meme dragons.
As for wards, if the dragon player puts up a Rahab, then that is easily deal with, I can evolve a white general for 5 damage and kill it, forge weaponry my frog and evolve him then kill him, Albert it, Cyclone, Dance of Death it, charge a quickblader and an evolve commander into it, etc. Wards don't stop frog for shit.
>>174437639
Exactly, even if I manage to make my frog survive the Orthrus, which is perfectly doable, shadow has too much damage potential for it to matter. And a frog player cannot even wipe out the enemies with a cyclone because of the skeletons.
>>174437975
What does his jp evolve line translate into?
>>174438064
I can't be better when it allows broken bullshit into random shit.
>>174437771
7 different crafts so people whine when their main craft isnt at the top or on par. Next expac, people will whine about another class
>>174438216
ALBERT KAWAII SUGOI DESU
>>174438064
The balance might be better now but the gamemode as a whole is a clownfest due to the powerlevel of shit everyone has access to. Dealing with Aegis and Ouro and Grimnir is not something I ever had to do before this expac and it was much more fun when they didn't exist
need concede
15169
>>174438216
Ain't going to the idolshit site.
>>174437676
you know you have to post list if you're using candle semi successfully
>>174438441
here anon, the deck is pretty good agaisnt kys blood at least
Luminous Mage isn't even good in """midrange""" sword. She just fucks up your maid draw.
Sword got literally no usable cards in this expansion besides Grimnir.
>>174438281
Before this expac is was albertcraft all day err day.
>>174438029
pls help
>>174438029
>>174438705
lad no one will help you to build cancer.
3 squaser and 3 conversions is too much
>>174438590
at least luminous mage made sword quite decent in take two
otherwise it would literally be only dominated by dragon and shadow like ranked is
>>174438547
thanks.
Depending on whether my birds play out well or not, I might try this out.
Last time I tried out playing seraph, I found myself always losing since it was literally never safe to play it.
Too much burst from a board of 1/1s.
Thanks Eachtar.
>>174438668
>somehow multiple crafts having access to absolute unfun bullshit is better than it being contained in one craft
Yeah I love it when I'm up against bullshit 70% of the time instead of 30% of the time now.
How did cygayms fuck up the meta this bad that people aren't even bothering with dailies?
>>174438029
It's fine. Mirrors purely depends on whoever play Catacomb first anyway.
Please concede:
54772
>>174438964
Western gaijin piggu don't matter
Grorius Nippon sararymen are loving the shit out of this crapsack meta and that is all that matters.
>>174439126
>Nippon sararymen
The ones you please for money?
>>174439126
/svg/ has been complaining that their favorite nip streamer isn't having fun, so I don't think you're quite right there
>>174438964
Don't make your own case a generality.
>>174438964
To much powercreep.
no fun when you are never safe from not losing no matter what hp you got.
They should make some leggos as super rare and limit them to 1. Like bahamut.
>>174431419
This is where you have erroneously equated the quality of the writing with the quality of the voicework. You forget that different people are responsible for each of them.
This is why people such as you can never be good judges of quality.
>>174439189
Yes because the pool size of: 1 (one) is truly representative of the acceptance of an expansion across the whole Japanese audience.
>>174439126
And you pulling "facts" out of your ass is just as bad.
>>174439126
I don't even believe that.
There's no way that even absolutely tasteless subhuman imbeciles like the japs can enjoy this meta.
>>174439189
streamers are not salarymen
>>174439032
Thanks Arisa
>>174439189
That's just one shitposter, satan cat had a lot of fun with sneks today. It's true that Nips aren't too much fond of cards like Sibyl and Catacomb though but Elana and Daria were getting a lot more hate back in the days.
>>174439281
>and limit them to 1
HS please go, they should make more sticky minions with ward
Just Eachtar, bro
>>174439189
>thinks one nip streamer represents the whole playerbase when it's already been established that Cygames' main audience for Shadowverse is the casual crowd
>>174439429
What is said is just as important as how it's said.
OK guys, I thought of a way to fix Shadowverse and automatically make it more interactive for everyone.
What if....WHAT IF.....
All followers that exist and will be released in the future now had ward?
>>174439618
>been established that Cygames' main audience for Shadowverse is the casual crowd
Source on that? Other than "It's obvious", an actual statement by someone from the company.
So. We are getting neutral banish next expansion, right?
>plays eachtar at 5 shadows before using coco in his hand
>totally ignores my board after having just seen a fucking arriet
God, I didnt know necrofags were this retarded
>>174439857
Yeah neutral gold card
5pp 4/5 ward
enhance 8: banish all enemy followers
>turn 4 daria into ogler + emmylou with clarke and craig on board
a nut draw to be proud ofand I mashed that concede button
>>174439857
No. Stop asking for powercreep, retard. What we need is Shadow to be nerfed.
The game needs ridiculously overstated sticky ward followers with the downside of not being able to attack face. I'm talking 4 mana 5/6s ward with last word summon 0/6 ward type of shit. Obviously combo would have to be gutted to allow this to happen, but only the combo that bypasses wards (D.Shift, WolfBolt). Board clears don't cut it anymore if they plan to release garbage like Catacomb and Eachtar, at the very least board clears that are fairly costed, while the followers insanely undercosted. We literally need turn 4 Themis to keep up with the constantly escalting board vomit each expansion is introducing , and have been needing it since Daria.
>>174439786
I think you need to take a walk.
>>174439547
not all leggos.
Just a few of them that got way to high of a powerlevel to be spamable.
stuff like Bloody Mary, cerberus, Lucifer are fine because while they are strong they arent brutally strong by themselves.
But cards Like Bahamut, Eachtar, Israfil really shouldnt be spammable because how strong they are by themselves.
>>174439857
>lets invalidate Haven's existence even more by continuing to print one of its main mechanics for other crafts
ay whens ramp for swordcraft?
>>174438964
>>174439281
this right here.
People were calling instawins like seraph cancer even though there was actual setup needed, as well as seraph not actually winning until T9, an entire turn to react.
Now we got shit like constant T6 coco+mimi+howl or T7 Zell Shenanigans. Don't forget the occasional game of albertcraft and "lel let me take 3 turns in a row"
I don't think they should limit legendary cards, but this "slow the meta down" thing only made it so fast "win in 1 big turn" combo decks win.
>>174439786
That would actually turn the game into Yugioh, not bad.
>>174439857
But... we already have it
>>174440086
>lets invalidate Haven's existence even more by continuing to print one of its main mechanics for other crafts
Dragon and Sibyl says hello.
>>174440183
suck my dick faggit
>>174440086
you mean neutral ramp, also neutral spellboost
This game seriously needs some sort of dispell/silence, or cards that can activate during the opponet's turn.
>>174440125
>Now we got shit like constant T6 coco+mimi+howl
>Now
>>174440125
>Now we got shit like constant T6 coco+mimi+howl
>now
>NOW
I don't even care about the rest of your post but can you retards stop talking about C/M+Howl like it's a new thing? They're fucking STANDARD cards. This combo was being used since the game fucking released. Shadow Aggro was the 2nd most popular Shadow deck in RoB after Neph and you saw the turn 6 11dmg constantly.
You can't even bullshit yourself out of this one with "b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Prince Catacomb gives you shadow generation..!!" because that never fucking mattered for Howl since having 5 Shadows by turn 6 is not f ucking rocket science, and even if you could even make do with just having 4 and then dropping Mimi before Howl to get your 5th shadow.
Why does unranked even exist if every single person there seems to play tryhard mid shadow?
>game looked so promising
>turns out Cygames is more retarded at balance than Blizzard
Never thought I'd see the day.
>>174439660
So, so wrong. The job of a voice actor is different from the job of a writer. What part of "quality of writing =/= quality of voicework" do you not understand? Just because the writer failed in his task does not mean the voice actor fails automatically as well.
With such a clearly flawed understanding, you started off on the wrong foot and now have no leg to stand on and resorted to a canned saying. I will say it again; you are a poor judge of things.
What should I play in place of cerb for aggro shadow?
>>174440778
Nothing
>>174440598
To do dailies without losing rank
It's faster than ranked because I just concede any game that seems like it's gonna take too long even if I have a chance of winning still
Like Dragon dropping Rahab on turn 3? Nah my dude I'm good, I have better things to do than try to claw my way through a 5 health ward with my 3pp. Enjoy your win I'll go requeue.
>>174440681
Ye.
Its funny how blizz actually tried to fix shit in ungoro and they somewhat did.
When cygames tried to fix some shit that rob did they instead made everything worse.
>Load up my dailies
>Get blood and reroll since aggro sucks and vengeance storm is a meme
>Get Haven
>Remember that every class has a +58% winrate against it and the deck it supposedly counters (shadow) still has a positive winrate
>Close game and play some Siege instead
I cant believe it, but we are in a meta that's even more oppressive than Daria. I'm only b1 and yet 80% of my games are against shadow with 19% against dragon.
>>174440598
You mad he creampied your boypussy?
>Get dragon to 3 hp
>lol let me just play my 3rd sybil in a row
>literally heals 12 hp all while ramping and stalling to 10
>lightning blasts my board
>sybil still down healing him
Dragon should not be allowed to play so greedy, wtf is this shit.
What is the point of soul dealer?
Enemy just used it, was way sub 10 hp almost instantly, I removed the soul dealer and killed him
What a retarded ass card
>>174440681
Neither company cares that much for balance
>>174440820
But then I would have a 37 card deck anon, and that's not valid.
>>174440778
Nothing, Cerberus is an absolute staple in aggro.
>>174440681
If you played GBF you should have already known Cygames can't balance for shit.
>MTG champions
Was just a PR meme.
>>174440860
Simply put, you can't make things unanswerable in a card game. You need to be able to play cards "out of turn" as it were. ie: Counters and shit. The game has 0 depth currently and rewards only retards who can slap down cards with a cost equal to their play points every turn, and nothing more.
>>174440778
Nothing. Phantom Howl+Evolve isn't as broken as PH+Evolve+koko+mimi. Cygames needs ti nerf this spell of shit.
>>174440860
Yeah I play both games and hearthstone right now feels the best it has in a long time. Aggro doesn't feel overbearing, all classes but warlock have high tier decklist and the quests are quite fun to play
Shadowverse seems to have devolved into dragon and Shadow taking turns beating up any other deck that tries to sneak in there. Some decks countering shadow but losing to dragon and the ones teched for dragon get run over instantly by the shadow train with big daddy Eachtar to anal you.
>>174440860
I have no problem with cards that unexpectedly are OP, like PtP used to be.
What I can't stand is when cards are revealed that are clearly, hilariously broken on paper, and everyone can see it. Then they get released, and there's some half assed nerf 2 months later.
Like Eachtar, Sybil, are clearly cards that should cost way more or lose some stats for their effects.
Duelyst had the exact same problem, they would print broken overstatted shit that goes in every deck because it's so far above the power curve, then nerf it next balance patch. When any monkey can see it was a mistake to print it in the first place.
>>174440681
This game is quite shitty this expansion, indeed.
Necro mirrors are tiresome. Every turn you have to deal with eachtar/death's breath/enhanced zombie party. That's like a battle of endurance.
>>174440952
>>174441021
I don't have any cerbs nor do I have the vials to make any.
>>174441021
>11 damage turn 6
It's brokeback druid but better
>>174441154
I want to wipe the bread crumbs off unica's cute face
>>174441170
Then try another deck like storm bishop.
>>174441170
Then you're not going to be playing aggro shadow.
>>174441170
Then you can't play shadow, she is that vital
>>174441165
Have you tried quitting and playing something fun instead? Seems to have worked for your opponent.
>>174441212
Good man.
>>174441229
What's storm bishop?
>>174441317
>pick bishop
>play storm cards
>win
>>174441317
Don't have a list on me, but there should be an old one on gameai. Not much changed except now you put in a couple of dark Jeanne.
>>174440681
Just fucking nerf Prince cuntcomb and that's it, Expansion is saved.
If I see any Dragon moaning you're obviously D Rank.
>>174441086
The problem with the game is that "you can hit face whenever you want" and several tech cards that helps it to happen.
>>174440681
>muh balance
I bet you think dragon is overpowered lmao
>>174441165
man I feel so bad for you, must be really tiring winning 60% of the timekys
>>174439807
Well, if you look at the introduction of cards like Bahamut and Aegis and the pp limit being 10, the designers have a clear desire to not want games to go past turn 10 as much as possible.
Also if you need an actual statement, look no further than the recent IGN interview:
Naoyuki Miyashita: The base game design of Shadowverse is that we don’t want too much time in one match. We want the matches to end in five to ten minutes. That’s something we had from the start – a design pillar. One of the reasons is because we wanted to make a game for smartphones, so extended matches is not something we want. Cards like Seraph Lapis, Prince of Darkness and Deepwood Anomaly, game design-wise, we feel those cards fit really well with Shadowverse.
They clearly state that it's a design pillar, a foundation of the game.
>>174441165
>shadow
kys
>>174439857
>Retard tries to be clever but forgets or doesn't know that Odin exists
LOL
>>174441139
Pretty much only well designed leggos this expansion are Belphegor and magical big guy.
Both are strong but both also got drawbacks.
>>174441502
>>174441513
I wonder who's behind those posts.
>>174440681
Le wind man of 4 damage to everything needs a nerf.
2/3 Ward for 3 is already a pushed stat line for a neutral follower. The added versatility of being an endgame onesided board wipe for every class is ridiculous.
>>174441538
Also of note, this doesn't mean that the game is casual, just that matches are fast.
>>174440687
100% THIS. KYS WEEBFAGGET >>174439660
Post yfw shadow has a powerful play every turn with perfect curve that makes HS look intelligent.
> turn 1 1pp skull fucker that gives two shadows
>turn 2 spartoi or 2 1 drops
>turn 3 prince
>turn 4 doggo of free tempo swing
>turn 5 doggo big sister of 5/5 statline and 4 damage
>turn 6 admittedly nothing
>turn 7 eachtor
>>174441678
people who hate Shadow cunts?
>>174441502
Hate to agree with Ledouche but he's right. Catacomb should be nerfed to the point of being unplayable.
>>174441803
How old are you?
I really dig Necroassassin english voice.
Most MEXICAN deck?
>>174441795
>games are meant to end in 5 to 10 minutes
>not casual
Come the fuck on man, don't delude yourself.
Stop playing Aegis.
>>174441795
But shadowverse IS in fact casual
>S-shadow is not cancer guys, dragon is the real problem
>>174441678
B-But Dragon is fine.
I-Ignore the fact that it's the other 50% of ladder, S-Shadow is the only problem.
>>174441885
Old enough to know shadow is shaman tier.
>tfw nearly just got Snowman OTK'd.
the fuck is this enchanted sword shit
>>174440868
>can't win
>at b1
end u'reself
>>174441975
>cancer calling cancer cancer
>tfw when hshitter only can compare SV to HS because is the only CG they played
the potery
>>174441975
The real problem are idiots like you who expect perfect balance when humans are designing and running the game.
>>174441998
Dragon is busted but Shadow is some next level shit.
>>174442114
stupid seamonkey
>>174442060
>Winning against mid shadow as haven
Lmao
>>174441927
Is poker casual?
>>174442063
>Dragon is cancer.
HELLO B2.
I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE.
SHADOW IS EASY TO TECH AGAINST BUT AS SOON AS I DO THAT FUCKING DRAGON COMES IN HERE AND HEALS EVERY FUCKING TURN.
AS SOON AS I TECH AGAINST DRAGON, FUCKING SHADOW COMES IN WITH THEIR FUCKING 1/1 THAT TURN INTO 3/1
>>174442170
They're both retarded, that was my point.
If you only nerf one the other will run even wilder.
>>174442120
T. Brode
>>174442192
are you honestly that bad that you can't win at b1? the meta doesn't even matter down there
>>174442197
>Poker takes 5 minutes to be played
?????
>>174442243
If you neft one you can start tech against the other one. Both of them deserves nerf but Shadow undoubtedly more.
Dragon player here.
We lose to;
Shadow shitter.
Frog.
Daria (If we don't get decent ramp for Salamander.)
Aegis.
>B-BUT DRAGON.
>>174441927
SFV tournament matches last about that long until semi/finals. So that point doesnt mean anything.
>>174442197
>Poker is Shadowverse
STOP. DELUDING. YOURSELF.
>>174442387
Now list all the things you win against.
Guys stop shitposting for a second and help me:
What counters shadow?
I tried ward haven with forbidden ritual teched in but I feel like I have to clear their board 5 times to win and its too easy for them to curve whereas I need much more consistency to stand up to the hordes of spooky skellies.
>>174442387
>WAAAH I DON'T BEAT EVERY DECK
ToG is actually pretty good, you're an actual shitter if you think DE or early RoB was better.
>>174440687
What you don't understand is the only thing that matters is the product as a WHOLE. The voicework cannot exist without the writing.
If there is a voicework that gets a 8, saying lines that get a 2, you get a 5. Not a 8 because one thing was done well, a 5 because the 2 drags the whole thing down when they become one.
>>174442513
AA0, but I've got a wonky taunt elf that's been doing the trick
>>174442513
Shadow
>>174442519
>loses against more current meta decks than most.
>B-BUT DRAGON IS CANCER SVG TOLD ME SO!
>>174442453
Yea, but SFV isn't Shadowverse nor vice versa, so your point doesn't mean anything either.
>>174442387
since the meta is either shadow or dragon then you got a 50/50 chance to win
>>174442326
Shitters in B pilot mid shadow the exact same as master players: it is that braindead.
That said you can get lucky since other cancer like wallet dragon dont exist in their full forms yet.
>>174442513
everything shadow is pretty weak the problem is 13 storm from bahamut
Can an anon help this shitter out with the 1x private match without quitting achievement.
37521
>>174441975
you could have cleared this board twice over by now
you could have cleared this board and dropped satan twice over by now
dragon was a mistake
also sword literally kills you faster
>>174442192
If anyone has a chance against Shadow, it's Haven.
>>174442513
It's an uphill battle no matter what you do. Wards out the ass, Zoe, and pray you have a ward up for their T6 mimi, coco, phantom combo.
Then pray extra hard they don't drop demon dickshits on T7 for the extra fuck you.
>>174442387
>aegis
>daria
>winning against dragon
Retard?
>>174442626
typical b player
if they piloted it the same as master players they wouldn't be in B. there are not that many sandbaggers
>>174442659
t. Luna
>>174442235
wow
so it's cool when midsword is unbeatable 60% win rate but when luna does it you can help but complain
funny how that works
>>174442387
>we lose to daria
yeah ok
Necro renders everything but haven and dragon and the mirrors are boring. Fuck this game
>>174442527
This, Elana, Otomeme, Roach and Daria were far more opressive, at least Shadow and Dragon can be tech'd against and it looks like Shadow and Dragon aren't going to need major nerfs.
please concede
29689
>>174442690
>t. C0
Just reached AA0.
What should I expect?
Meme decks in AA3?
More tryhards?
>>174442513
>Shadow going first
>Frog nutting the curve and drawing cyclone blade at the best moment
>Banishcaust haven, loses to all other decks
>Aggro blood nutting a triple yurius
>IMMORTAL forest
>Albertcraft nutting the curve and storming harder than Katrina
Basically: either play shadow or curve perfectly.
>>174442907
Shadowbabs everywhere
>>174442907
AA is the most tryhard bracket because people are trying really hard to get into masters.
>>174442603
Don't be purposely dense just to try to spin your argument in a positive light. The point the poster made was that games so fast had to be casual, so the parallel with a highly competitive game with quick matches is fitting even outside of it's genre.
>>174442907
Tryhards as far as the eye can see.
If you're lucky you'll run into low masters memers.
I just lost against daria because I had only 10 cost cards for 5 turns
https://twitter.com/en_roller120/status/853477775528779776/
Is this a complete meme or is it playable in AA/Masters without leading you to irl suicide?
>>174442907
it's all dragon and shadow from here on
>>174442682
Thank you, Catarino.
Is anyone having any sort of success running Gawain and/or Otohime?
>>174442787
Only if we tech against it.
Candle and ritual are dead cards against dragon or another haven.
>>174441165
Imagine what's it like for other classes with no board clears facing you kys shadownigger
>>174443071
If you have Prince and Hector you can use fucking anything.
>shadow players
honest and health t1 deck and is easy to tech
>dragonshitters
Retarded overstatted followerscraft they have 80% of WR against all aggro decks and is impossible to tech
>>174442803
>if they piloted it the same as master players they wouldn't be in B
Not really. Getting to masters just requires a lot of time grinding with any meta deck. Let's not pretend it needs brain power.
>>174442551
>If there is a voicework that gets a 8, saying lines that get a 2, you get a 5. Not a 8 because one thing was done well, a 5 because the 2 drags the whole thing down when they become one.
Wrong again. I am not judging the quality of the writing, just the quality of the voicework. You clearly do not get it. You replied to my post where I was clearly praising the voicework only and not the writing. You then wrongly equated both to be the same thing and now that I've established they are two different things, you're trying to weasel out of it by backpedalling and just saying one drags down the other. It doesnt matter, because In your own words, if the voicework is an 8, it's an 8. Just because you don't like the writing doesn't suddenly magically make it a 5, that's stupid and dishonest.
>>174443071
I played a few game of it and it worked out pretty well. I don't know if it's better than other midshadow builds but I did see some other guys running this exact deck in masters too.
>>174442907
Hope you don't like having fun, because it ends here. Even at the bottom of AA0 it's 45% shadow and 45% dragon.
>>174443368
Staying in B requires sandbagging or being garbage at the game
>>174443363
Give me ONE deck that can beat mid shadow.
Pro tip: You can't, shadow is T0
So how the fuck do I play Blood now? All I have is 1 Belphegor.
>>174443569
old aggro deck only need vampy
>playing against endless shadow users
>decide to play haven to fuck them over
>first game is against Dshift
YAMEROOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>174443569
just go full retard aggro and concede when they stabilise
>>174443569
play vania
win
>>174443505
>>174443569
Try this
-1 belphegor
-1 soul dominator
+2 dance of death
EVERY TIME
EVERY FUCKING TIME
WHEN I'M ABOUT TO WIN A MATCH
THESE THREE FUCKERS BLOCK MY WAY
I'M ANGRY
I'M ANGRY ABOUT ZOMBIES
Honestly I think partnote: PART, not SOLEof the reason why Shadow is so strong right now because it has no clear hard-counter on the ladder.
That used to be Haven, but you can't play Haven's best deck anymore (Seraph) because Dragon invalidates its existence with Dragon Blast. So by proxy Dragon is the reason why Shadow gets to run rampant like this, because they have no fear of queueing into an auto-lose matchup like Haven vs Shadow used to be.
Obviously Shadow would still be broken against other crafts even with Haven being viable, and would still need nerfs on Catacomb to be brought in line with other crafts, but I imagine it'd be played a lot less if Seraph actually stood a chance and wasn't bullied off the ladder by Dragon Blast. Aegis is absolute garbage compared to Seraph, but you're basically forced to play Aegis over Seraph now as queueing against Dragon (that isn't Storm or Discard) with Seraph is basically an insta-loss.
>>174443778
>wah wah you can't win agaisnt everyone
>>174443023
>Comparing a reflex based and mechanical skill based game such as street fighter to a fucking turn based card game
You are stupid.
>>174441257
>Have you tried quitting and playing something fun instead? Seems to have worked for your opponent.
Yeah, i am only doing dailies at this point. Shadow was fun in rob but playing against 2 crafts is no fun, even if you're shadow or dragon.
>>174441514
>>174441635
>man I feel so bad for you, must be really tiring winning 60% of the time
Actually yes, i have more fun with midrange sword, even if i lost. Just don't want to spend a lot of time to clear dailies.
>>174443239
>no board clear classes
Only sword and forest comes to mind, i have decent winrate against shadow as sword, even without cyclone blade board clears. Can't say about forest tho, people were using it a lot in tournaments so i guess forest is decent too.
Yet another shadow mirror.
I hate this game.
>>174443728
Fuck off, shadow destroys this deck
>>174443954
works for me bro
>>174443894
>shadow was fun in rob
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys really have abad memory
>>174440868
stay terribad noob
>>174442803
A lot of people are using shadow to grind right now. I got from a1 to aa1 just this past week.
>>174443742
Heh, I've literally justnetdeckedthe same deck except 2 Dominators instead DoDs.
>>174443954
>14 wards
>destroy
lmao
>>174443861
>oy vey stop crying about our balanced wards or c-cygames will nerf it!
>ginger last week
>now this shit
>>174443728
>forest deck with no roaches
Have fun losing to the other 75% of ladder I guess
>>174444060
Eachtar will trade 5-for-1 with your taunts and rape your mother.
>>174444051
It's really good against Dragon, and I'm positive with it against Shadow.
>>174444006
Neph was basically the best T2 deck after the nerfs, only a sliver away from being T1.
>>174443778
tech in hungering horde
>>174443363
this 100%
it's like dshift became an autowin against aggro and could pull 13 storm damage out of their ass
dshift has been here for 3 expansion and managed to be a huge thorn in controls side, but never outright killed it from the meta altogether
dragon is straight up retarded
>better board clears and healing than haven
>stronger against aggro than control
>more storm than fucking swordcraft
>runecraft tier card draw
and capable of threatening lethal with fuck huge minions that WANT to be killed every turn
dragon is the be all end all deck that every deck wants to be
remember how nobody wanted sword to get good healing/card draw because then they would literally have it all?
that's what dragon has right now
>>174443023
No one's being dense. You're equating a highly competitive REAL-TIME FIGHTING GAME WITH HUNDRED OF ACTIONS BEING PERFORMED IN THE SPAN OF SECONDS/MINUTES and arguing that just because a game like that is competitive in that timeframe it suddenly applies to a card game where your actions, on average, are playing 1-2 cards per turn and attacking with your followers? Don't be a fucking idiot.
>>174444060
>>174443986
>Just ward and remove bro
Someone post that haven vs mid shadow webm please
>>174443363
>honest
>60% winrate against every other deck BUT haven, which has traditionally been a hard counter although its still 54% in shadow favour
No.
>>174444129
It's not quite that bad, but yeah, it's main purpose is beating up shadow when they're swarming
>>174443831
You can all blame Cygames for giving Shadow amazing midrange tools and giving Dragon the easiest time of their life ramping and completely disgusting late game cards while Haven got jackshit.
>inb4 some retard comes crying about aegis
>>174444190
Aggro Shadow was better than Neph by far, with easier matchups all around. Neph is a garbage unfun deck and I'm glad it's dead.
>>174444265
I'm just telling you man, I put this together as anti-shadow tech and it works
>>174441502
>>174441513
>nerf shadow but keep dragon untocuhed
I don't think your opinion even matters, dragon shitposter.
>>174444224
aggro shadow is just the seasonal cancer
dragon is the powerhouse of this expansion and will only get stronger regardless of what the meta changes too
>>174443457
AA0 here, can confim it's 90% shadow and dragon.
The only rune I see anymore is the occasional dshift. There's an occasional roachnigger or haven player, but they're pretty rare. Haven't seen blood in forever.
>>174441965
Nah, it's fun to see people rage at it.
Weird, I played against a shadow who did nothing for 8 turn.
All she do is wait 1min in the beginning, and skip turn every 30s.
>>174443363
>people falling for this obvious failed attempt at sarcasm by ESL shitposter
>>174444359
This. Imagine ifwhendragon gets even MORE ramp.
>>174443941
>dragon
sorry for your loss, but
>>174444395
What about Sword? Before reaching AA0, I had a pretty good time against Shadow and Dragon back in A3
>>174444117
This is what you get by abusing the forbidden pack opening method.
>>174444732
I haven't seen sword in so long I forgot about them.
>>174444753
>tfw I got this
>>174443941
how much did you spend on that deck
>it's another dragoncuck has 2 Salamander Breath's on turn 4-5 episode
How the fuck do they always fucking have it. Why don't they ever fucking brick?
>take a break for a week
>come back to /svg/
>thread is full of salty hearthniggers again
steam was a mistake
>>174443438
I'm not trying to weasel out of anything, I'm stating that the voice cannot exist without the words. Just as humans can't exist without air. For a voice to be heard a word has to be spoken. How many more times do I have to word it? If you speak without saying anything, all you are doing is making senseless noises.
The average between a 8 and a 2 is a 5. There is nothing magical or arbitrary about that.
>>174444006
It was fun cause of challenge aspect and i am not talking about neptits. Anyway shadow needed more cards but some of them are too good and i still don't understand why they make both eachtar and thane on 7pp slot in addition to khawy. Cygames just need to nerf some followers and spread them more across different pp slots.
>>174444892
>3 baha, 2 Israfil, 3 Lucifers, 3 Lightning Blasts, at least 1 Oroborus,
>They never manage to brick despite making the greediest decks possible
>>174443868
>>174444242
And you two keep missing the point. The poster never compared the games to draw a parallel about anything inside then, it was purely a: "Can a game be competitive and have short matches" the answer is Yes, doesn't mean the games have anything to do with the other.
>Dragonbros losing to shadowbabs
They didn't humpty their dumpties LOL
>>174444325
>Garbage unfun deck
Only if you are on the recieving end fuccboi.
>B-but lighting blast!
You mean that card nobody runs in more than 2 copies, sometimes not even 1? The 10pp look big for a moment while I refill my board and proceed to push your shit in?
>>174444117
I wish I got some Memeomalies.
I did get 3 Sneks and that's a lot of memes, but the Memeomaly is on a whole different tier of memery.
>>174444885
HIP
>>174445141
Why not wraith drake? I think he's more suited.
>>174445296
I have him too but i didn't mulligan him
>>174445241
I want Gingers instead, but I just found the fabled Magical Big Guy. I might go on a Big Dirty Adventure.
>over 25% of the deck costs 2 or less
>can't fucking draw any by turn 2
I'm literally just conceding those draws from here on out, that's fucking bullshit
>>174445104
We are talking about card games, it's pretty obvious it was talking about card games and the fact a card game designed to end even earlier than turn 10 can't be that deep and not casual.
>You are backpedaling!
No you are just as dense as oil.
>>174445150
>Only if you are on the recieving end fuccboi.
I've played every Shadow deck since DE. Neph is garbage.
>LB
I didn't even mention that. The deck is dead and you rarely see it on ladder and that's a fact.
Fun game
>>174439935
It's almost like band-wagoners don't know how to play "their" deck or craft and only know how to go face
I remember when albertfags would outright ignore my entire board when I only had to deal ~4 damage out of hand constantly during RoB
>>174443196
I tried many versions of Gawain, and Otohime. Sword can't win against Shadow and Dragon, period. Shadow runs you over and Wards don't do shit, Dragon will crush you but is winnable if he's REALLY retarded. If you aren't hyper aggressive against Haven you lose, Gawain leads to a defensive/slow playstyle. You can't stop KYS Blood if they curve decently enough. Forest and Sword are very rare, Rune is freewin if you draw well enough.
Gawain is trash, don't bother with it, even for meme purpose. You can't have fun with it since the meta is too competitive for this deck, unless you enjoy winning 1/10 of your games or are in A rank or below. It might change after the nerfs though, but right now, playing Gawain almost made me stop SV. I crafted 2 Gawains and don't regret it at all, the deck isn't as braindead as your average Sword deck, but it just doesn't work.
how the fuck you guys enjoyed neph? even if the deck was good against dragonX200
>in DE they laughed at us
>when nep was announced they laughed at us
>when lightning blast was announced they laughed at us
who's laughing now?
this whole board is full of salty cucks who can't stand not getting another free win bullying this cutie
get the fuck out ARDA
>>174445691
>who's laughing now?
Me.
>>174445506
Who cares about popularity, I'm climbing with it and I'm happy that nobody can't recognize that nep is good.
>Nep is the worst shadow deck
You probably are one of those retards that run 2378 nep without carrots or something. I guess that you can keep a braindead deck like aggro, it suits you well.
>>174445832
post your list then nigger
>>174445691
cringe
>>174445832
I love how you're so defensive about that deck that you make up shit I never said to make yourself feel better.
You do you my dude, play whatever you want.
Cards i wish i had 3 of:
>moonbunny
>dork jeanne
>ledger
>neptits
>aerin
>>174443728
>t6 Death's Breath
>t7 Thane/ZombieParty
>t7 Hector
>t8 Hector
>t9 Hector
How do you answer?
>>174446149
I dunno, how do you answer magical christmas land scenarios?
Which follower is the strongest canonically?
>>174446142
Nice blogpost, kill yourself reddit
>>174446219
bahamut
>>174446219
Bahamut
>>174443742
Can you climb AA3 with this?
>>174446219
ding dong
>>174445015
>How many more times do I have to word it?
The only reason you need to keep rewording it over and over is because it's still the same wrong argument you've said at the start but think you if you wrap it up using different words, it'll suddenly become correct.
>If you speak without saying anything, all you are doing is making senseless noises.
Wrong again. If the most beautiful voice in the world said it, it would be the most beautiful-sounding senseless noises anyone would ever hear. Again, the quality of what is said does not impact the quality of the voice.
>The average between a 8 and a 2 is a 5.
>The scores of 2 completely different works can suddenly be averaged as if they were the same thing
Wew. Here, let me make it simple for you that even a child could understand it; If I'm eating an 8/10 burger, just because the packaging was shitty doesn't suddenly make it taste like a 5/10 burger, nor will a 2/10 burger make the 10/10 packaging a 6/10. If you still don't understand it after this, you're hopeless and there's no point talking with you further. It needs to be said, you started out wrong and now you'd rather look like a stubborn idiot than admit it.
>>174445631
have you tried this?
>>174446415
>avant
>turn 6 do nothing combo
>can't even trade with a 8/8
I pity my foolish brethren, truly
>>174446219
Bahamut
Took the combined power of Satan and Zeus to try and just SEAL Bahamut TEMPORARILY, and even then the seal started becoming undone 2000 years later.
>>174445691
>>174446324
no
if win streak bonuses still existed in AA you might be able to get away with a long grind, but there's too much non-shadow.
>>174446262
>>174446283
>>174446507
Can Bahamut beat Aegis?
>>174444890
post deck, having some difficulty making a revision that feels right
>>174446496
are you just gonna make these MOOOOOOOOOOOOM posts all day or what
>>174446476
it give you card draw and improves topdecking as the match goes on
same with pompous princess
>>174446587
No since apparently the Abrahamic God is still stronger.
Also why does Aegis have a defeat voice line if it can't die?
>>174446623
Are you?
>>174445104
>"Can a game be competitive and have short matches"
LOL that was never the point you dumbfuck who butted into the middle of a conversation and now rightfully gets called out for it
>>174446496
He could if he did draw his Drain.
>>174446654
Safety.
Maybe in the future they'll print Omegamut that ignores all text and deletes everything.
>>174446654
why does eidolon have an attack voice line if it can't attack?
>>174446654
Future proofing.
They might make a card in another expansion that is "change an enemy followers health to 0".
>>174446612
I just netdecked from gameai
>>174446745
You joke, but in RoB we got like 5 Bahamuts over the course of the game, each more OP than the last
>>174446623
I must spread the glory of Mastema and hope more people pick her up
>>174446507
where can I find this lore? I'm curious
I just want RoB meta back.
I want to be able to play any class and go on long winning streaks.
>>174446745
>Maybe in the future they'll print Omegamut that ignores all text and deletes everything.
If you make it cost more than 10pp then sure.
>>174446964
https://myanimelist.net/anime/21843/Shingeki_no_Bahamut__Genesis
>>174446845
That's not even the final version. Final version dropped Thane and Orthrus completely.
>>174446937
What's your longest streak with mastema?
>>174446965
you are saying the same shit in RoB.
>>174446965
B-but RoB was only Daria, Roach, and Albert! You couldn't play anything else on ladder! Dragon is fine!
>>174447023
Just make it conditional and uncollectable.
Like give an amulet that puts him in your hand after conditions are met, like for example after an allied [Bahamut] has been destroyed.
>>174447045
Can this really work without howls?
>>174447089
literally no one wished for elana to be back
>>174447169
you tell me
>>174447123
So rip off HS?
>>174447156
Most of the time howl is a dead card since you just have so much board.
>>174447169
plenty of people wanted to play midsword and tempo forest again, thoughdon't reply to esl shitposters
>>174446415
Why Fervid Soldiers, Fencers, Pompous Princess' and Avant Bladers rather than stuff like Unica, Jeno, Luminous Mage or even Aurelia?
This looks like an aggro sword with Otohime and Sage thrown in at the end of the curve. Just going all in with the aggro theme would probably just end up performing better.
>>174447026
is there any more content? I saw there's virgin soul too which seems to be season 2
>>174447076
I think this was a 13 win streak, but I couldn't fit all into the picture
43737
concede please
thanks in advanced
>>174447232
What makes you think that?
>wake up in the morning midrange shadow still 60% winrate
I guess cygames gives 0 fucks about their game dying.
>>174447374
Virgin Soul just started airing 2 weeks ago, it's got another 20+ episodes coming.
There's also the Rage of Bahamut mobile game.
>>174447529
Forest was the same way for a very long time.
>>174447620
It's been 3 expacs, they should've learned how to balance their own game.
But I guess they really don't give a fuck.
>>174447620
That doesn't exactly make this situation any more bearable
Any decent Nep/ledger lists around? I want to trigger greedy BahaZell Dragoncucks again.
>>174447734
you will win against dragon the problem of neph is aggro shadow
>>174447698
A small group of developers and playtesters are never going to be able to spot everything. Perfect balance is an illusion.
>there's still one more month until cygames nerf shadow cards
Call me back when that happens.
>>174447916
And then you'll leave again because if they only nerf shadow Dragon will be obnoxious.
They'll probably nerf Catacomb to the point where he becomes unplayble and kick shadow back to T2.
>inb4 hurrrr I've won many times without catacomb
Mid shadow will be suicide blood tier without him, sure you can win but it's nowhere near as consistent.
>>174446403
>If the most beautiful voice in the world said it, it would be the most beautiful-sounding senseless noises anyone would ever hear.
What you fail to understand is just because it sounds good doesn't mean it is good. Words have meanings, meanings make the words good.
If someone points at something and makes a aaaaa sound, you can vaguely understand that they are interested in it, depending on what it is they may want it. It could be the most majestic aaaa you've ever heard but it is just meaningless noise. There is nothing good about it.
It would not be the burger and the packaging, rather it would be the bread and the meat. They are both important to what is known as a sandwich. Without them combined they are just bread and meat.
It is indeed hopeless to argue with you when you started off believing you are always right about everything and respond to everything with a simple
>no you're wrong
>>174447880
>Small
>>174447497
thanks macau
>>174447880
it's impossible anon. crybbs will cry no matter what
>>174448210
I think the reach Phantom Howl gives you is the bigger offender for consistency. Without catacomb you definitely can still beat any class, but you need PH for the control matchups
Wew guys
Game forced me into Ranked today for missions and I actually met a swordbab
Can you imagine that lmao
>>174428971
need a source on this. Is there more?
>>174448541
no it's not, it was never a problem before
>>174448652
Shadow got a number of new tools that make their early game more efficient, but I don't think any are quite enough on their own to point to as a main offender
>>174448541
No you don't. None of the top tier midrange decks even run phantom anymore because it's just a dead card in you hand 90% from all the skeletons on your board.
Even when playing again other shadows myself I can deal with them pretty well until they drop catacomb. Then it just feels like you're grinding water.
>>174448572
lmao I met swordbab today, he played maid leader on turn 5 and does nothing, meanwhile I just ouro zell on his face
>>174448572
he alberted your face?
>>174448376
Yes, small.
You also have to look at the skill of the players doing the testing and development. Sure they have ideas and probably know the game very well, but there are far better players in the wild. Not to mention closed testing groups often develop very inbred metas.
Even a hundred closed testers spending three months on an expansion are nothing compared to the thousands and thousands of games that happen on the first day alone.
>>174448376
compared to the player base? it's like russia to the vatican city, so yeah.
I like how shadow is nowi don't play itthe deck seems fun, but cygames forget to add counters against it.
>>174447620
I've been playing since open beta and I can assure you this is not true in any sense of the word. Forest may have been dominant longer than Shadow, but it has never been as oppressive as Shadow. Even at its worst (miracle roach) Forest only breached 60%+ winrates for a short period of time and its counters still pulled favourable percentages on it (sun haven).
Shadow is currently stomping every single deck on ladder left and right with +60% winrates. The only exceptions are dragon (another cancer deck) and haven. Keep in mind that Haven is shadow's inherent counter and even then it has a 46% winrate currently against it. Think about that for a second.
Basically there are no counters against shadow right now. It is literally shaman, only more cancerous.
>>174448885
Should they start doing open/closed betas before each expansion then or is it a bad business plan?
>>174448885
Is this /svg/'s version of the Riot meme?
>>174449040
explain why cygames nerfed two of forests cards including a gold by 2pp if forest wasn't nearly as oppressive, because not even daria got that harsh of a nerf
elf genocide aside, catacomb deserves an equal nerf to homecoming if not worse
Got to love it when frogfags win because of a clutch cyclone blade they pull from their ass
Why is this the only AOE board clear for 5pp?
>>174448953
That's what I think too. Like I'm fine with the power level shadow brings even if it does smell of powercreep. I just wished they at least attempted to bring other crafts that weren't dragon up. Blood would count, if it wasn't so prone to burst. Mask is a great anti-burst card, but it doesn't fit on curve. I would've released 1pp card that's iffy off vengeance and a step below Dia Drain on vengeance so they can be flexible about how they curve.
>>174449247
>explain why cygames nerfed
Because being OP is enough cause for nerfs? You seem to have trouble grasping degrees of balance.
Keep in mind that DShift farmed PtP for free back in the day. There's no class currently that can farm shadow, much less put up a respectable fight that isn't Dragon.
>>174449040
ptp was annoying as fuck.
>>174449268
Because it's conditional, unreliable, requires set up, and hits their own board too? What a fucking dumb question.
>>174449268
Because it's fucking shit 99% of the time.
>>174449282
yeah i feel like that, the powercreep cards doesn't seem to be good atmlike aegis and shitdragon only problem was the useless ramp and now they have good cards to do something in late game.
one of the biggest problems is lightining blast the card alone killed haven and they created Aegis to survive.
>>174449268
Because it requires a condition, a follower on the board, therefore inferior to every other board clear and literally only useful in late game csword and ambush sword
>>174449107
The problem there is anyone in a beta wouldn't be able to participate in tournaments as they'd have an unfair advantage by way of superior game knowledge.
Then again I don't know if all the tournaments are sanctioned by Cygames or not.
>>174449148
Riot meme?
>>174449040
Forest was arguably more oppressive in the sense it just rolled over other decks, even if you had a superior board state and more HP. Being able to OTK people starting at T7, even if they had wards up, was not fun to play against.
Granted shadow can be just as irritating, but at least you know when it's coming and it's more difficult for Shadow to ignore ward.
>>174449381
good job ignoring the rest of my sentence
and of course not, cygames gave shit to other crafts, specially haven and rune
>>174449517
I'm not digging cygame's design philosophy desu. Instead of printing conditional cards to fill out the curves with clear weaknesses they just decide to throw a bunch of shit together. It started with dragon fervor which was heal/draw/ramp and culminated with sibyl which is big body/heal/ramp.
It's pretty fucking retarded and combined with braindead designs like Anomaly I can only see SV getting worse and worse. Either these 'mtg professionals' get their shit together or start introducing formats, because I'm not impressed.
>>174449664
fuck rune
>>174449542
What does fastwheels have to do with your post?
guys am i cancer enough? is my infinite board minions okay? i feel like im not contrubiting enough to ruin ranked for everybody
>>174449459
So does Themis and mutagenic bolt you fucking retard
>try death ledger shadow
>lose 4 times in a row
Great fucking deck guys.
>>174449658
>Forest was arguably more oppressive in the sense it just rolled over other decks,
Well now you're appealing to emotion instead of numbers and tournament results. I have a friend who thinks Dragon is fine to play against because you can 'burst it down' whereas Shadow is just wave after wave of bullshit. I wouldn't say his assessment is anything more than opinion in the face of statistics.
>>174449795
>Themis
>Conditional
>Unreliable
>Requiring setup
(you)
>>174449772
I was lecturing him, and Kayneth is a lecturer, so it was appropriate
>>174449664
>good job ignoring the rest of my sentence
The rest of your sentence is irrelevant and refuted anyways. If a deck is OP, it deserves to get nerfed. Or are you now saying every OP deck is equally unbalanced? What a laughable assertion.
>>174449795
Anon, Themis is the de facto standard for board wipes.
>>174449792
>midshadow players are literally former runeshitters
Can't make this shit up
>>174450105
>>174449894
>hur dur killing the own board requires no setup
>>174450152
>people like to win
woah
>>174450195
Tell me one requirement to play Themis that isn't having 6pp
If you can't think of anything then Themis doesn't require setup.
>>174450195
Setup means you have to do something extra in order to kill the other player's shit.
>>174449792
>1 Urd
>no lolisquishers
>no Cerbs
Fuck off my craft bandwagoner.
>>174450005
what's with people in this thread and their shitty reading skills and inability to make an argument that's not a fucking strawman? I wasn't asking you why it got nerfed, but why it got such a harsh nerf relatively speaking.
point being, it was actually pretty fucking oppressive, just like shadow right now.
>>174450326
Themis doesn't even work anymore due to Shadow flooding the board every turn.
>>174450262
Kill yourself, you worthless cancer
Your kind is not welcome here
someone post a nep deck. i'm going to take it to masters.
>>174450451
Stop dodging the question.
Themis requires no setup, full stop.
>>174450262
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PEOPLE SHOULD PLAY UNDERPOWERED DECKS AND LOSE AGAINST MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>174450484
>here in /svg/ we only like people who choose to play bad decks so that our shitty memes can get a win sometimes
lol
Rune faggots even in this state they still bm spamming emotes and delaying lethal, in free mode even we are playing meme deck. Fuck Rune they deserve to be bottom tier. I am going to rope and dc these faggots everytime.
>>174450372
The fuck are you talking about your kin, netdecker?
>>174450401
>point being, it was actually pretty fucking oppressive,
A deck with a clear counter and that didn't even break 60% overall winrate is somehow more oppressive than a deck with 60%+ winrates against every ladder deck and 54% against it's "counter"?
Please.
>>174450559
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174450624
Nah, I'll just keep playing good decks, thanks
>>174449268
/svg/ players complain about every weak shit in the game
>>174450540
Stop being such a cheater, shitter.
>>174450567
BMing just encourages more BMing.
>Barely breaking 2 threads a day now
Did Luna kill /svg/?
>>174450638
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174450581
Are you the same guy with the "homebrew" Dorothy?
>>174450567
Go ahead fag! I'll just BM even harder when I have lethal.
>>174450693
Nah man. I'll keep playing Themis and Mutabolt on turn 6 and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>174450725
She purged all the heretic shadow haters.
Will they nerf this spell? this thing is obvious retard and unfun
>>174450843
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174450567
Rune autists are special they bm no matter what
>>174450843
>implying you will be able to play normally
>>174450904
It's balance you shadownigger.
>>174450854
What
>>174450152
Not our fault that every rune deck is damn near unplayable in this meta
By the time you get Clarke on the board you've already lost 6 defense and Levi can only do so much
>have perfect opening hand for ramp
>playing against forest
>this should be easy
>forest has even better opening hand
>lose
>>174450904
shadownigger spotted
>>174450372
I preffer more board control instad of damage for my cancer legendary thanks
>>174450908
>That split second where the opponent genuinely believes you were bluffing and didn't have another Dshift
>But you weren't bluffing
>And you play it at the last possible second
There is NO better feeling in this world
>>174451027
welcome to curvestone
i mean curveverse
>>174451083
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174451023
How are they going to do six damage to you on turn 3?
/svg/ needs a new hero to cure ladder of dragon cancer.
>>174451164
1+2+3
>>174451182
pic unrelated
>>174451193
Do tell how shadow is doing 1 damage to you on turn 1 and 2 on turn 2.
>>174451063
I know but playing 3 corpses, 3 attendants, 3 Gobbu princes and 3 carrots and NOT playing Urds to match is stupid.
Turn 3 attendant into Urd is extremely strong. Take out one carrot and maybe a single 1pp goblin and put in 2 more urds. Trust me.
>>174451164
Are you retarded or...?
Since almost all of us seem to agree that the game is in a terrible shape and that it's probably going to get even worse, what game are we moving on to?
>>174451274
1 damage on turn 2 and 3 damage on turn 3. Then you drop clarke. I'm not even the guy who you're fighting with, you're just retarded
>>174451309
Hearthstone, it's pretty good now
>>174451309
Plants vs Zombies Heroes
>>174450904
>t. shadowshitter
dead card 75% of the time vs dragon.
>>174451272
Pic related.
>>174451342
And that's four damage, not six.
Are you people unable to add or what?
>>174451309
I'm moving to the next expansion.
>>174451309
I'm just waiting for a job to roll in so I can buy games. I'll probably go with rpg stuff like SMT so I can just scratch that strategy and build itch SV is supposed to be taking care of.
>>174451098
I was more surprised that I had the perfect opening hand for ramp. I rarely ever see such a great hand. The forest player was running some weird deck that I haven't seen before. I was actually impressed, but had I drawn Salamander's Breath one turn earlier I probably would've won.
Guys, I'm very concerned that this game has made me gay.
I want to dress Gawain and Albert in sexy bellydancer outfits and make them my slave boys.
>>174450484
>>174450624
>>174450734
>>174450908
>>174451136
You sound totally unhinged. Maybe you should stop playing for a while and go outside for a change of pace. Sunbathe for the first time in months. Try to find a gf like normal, well-adjusted human being.
>>174451309
You guys should move onto reddit, they seem to love the expansion.
>>174451309
moved to singleplayer games for now, there's a lot of shit I haven't gotten around to yet
noodling around in skyrim RN, a close friend keeps blathering about shovel knight so I might give that a shot
>>174451553
I'd say your craving to misbehaving is more of 4chan's fault. It starts with lewding veight, but then it becomes a slippery slope.
>>174451592
>GF
Why would you want one of those? Masturbation is better and my friends, who all like the same shit I do, are far more fun to be with.
>>174451592
>try to find a gf like normal, well-adjusted human being
>>174451592
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174451309
Trails in the Sky 3rd comes out in like two weeks.
>>174451647
Shovel Knight does seem pretty good. Order of no Quarter is an awesome name to give your order and it will be my main reason to buy it.
>>174451592
>telling someone to find a gf
>on 4chan
I was agreeing with you until that part.
Why are you even here?
i really hope that at least the crybbs move to a new game.
good game 4kids:
http://www.nickjr.co.uk/peppa-pig/
http://www.mariogames.be/ben10-games.html
https://www.comdotgame.com/play/my-little-pony-sex-game
Good shiet to people who only cry all day.
>>174451931
good game 4u:
http://www.eslgamesplus.com/
I fucking hate dragoncraft it killed every other control deck with his inifinite healing I think it heals even more than elana with this expansion
there is no point in playing other control now just full agro or dragon no other shyt
>>174451309
Granblue is kinda like Shadowverse except instead of cards it's grids and instead of opponents it's your own self-imposed hell.
>>174452056
Remember how this was supposed to be a cancer control meta dominated by Forest?
>>174451309
I use to have a blast playing this shit on the bus on my way to work but now this game has me coming to work every morning salty as fuck
>>174452056
(you) control against seraph or d-shift is worse
>>174451808
Shovel Knight is /jp/ property, get out.
>>174449894
>conditional
Requires your opponent to play enemies
>unreliable
If they don't play enemies it's a 6 mana do nothing
>requiring setup
It has to be in your hand to use it
Retard blown the fuck out
>>174451309
playingdisgaea 2and watchingbahamut S1as well ashouse of cards
I'm fine over here
Not bad for the daily log-in bonus.
used to play months ago, the only real deck i had was purgatory forescraft, is it still good? if not what can i do with the cards from it?
>>174452482
I got an animated Tsubaki. I immediately dusted her
>>174452369
>Requires your opponent to play enemies
But it doesn't
>>174452525
forest deck that wins by walling until you otk with rach
>Wake up
>Game still shit
>Look at dailies
>1 rune, forest and private
>Cry tears of joy, my suffering won't last long
>>174452525
ask again in June
shadow and dragon are the only decks right now
>>174452529
>2017
>Khawy
>>174452652
>private
It will last for the rest of your life.
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!
>>174434658
>muh retarded self reported statistics
>>174452834
>2017
>rune
>>174452525
Just netdeck it. Forest still play the same retarded shit since vanilla such as Roach and AE so you probably have most of the needed cards already.
>>174452529
but why
>>174452652
At the same point. Best case scenario is win 1 with fast aggro class, 3 evos, 1 private.
>>174453014
Cause sword is the worst class, and I'll never build a deck for it. I dust all the sword cards I get
>>174452834
It's still broken, as you can see. Shadow is fucking the babies craft.
>>174452967
Daria is still Daria. You're delusional if you believe that she is bad in this meta.
>>174452880
Already done, i used my alt account that got a Eachtar while may main account got more bronze and silvers.
>>174452880
>2017
>still doing private match quests with actual people instead of an emulator
i shiggy diggy
>>174453105
She actually is though.
>>174452435
The things men create when they have no gf.
>>174453105
Call me delusional, Daria is a worthless shit in this meta
>>174452967
Anon, aren't you going to post the uncropped gif of your image?
>wasted my leg luck in a fourth Tsubaka instead of a ToG leg
FUCK
>>174452652
>1 rune
>won't last long
That's the equivalent of a 4 of any other craft
>>174453105
How could Daria be good in a meta where the two big dogs both beat her
>>174453162
>>174453193
t. delusional B3s
need a concede please
26714
>>174453217
Earth rite burn is pretty fast to finish, took me one round today even, generally 2 or three.
>>174453260
I'm AA3 100 point away from masters actually, you beginner shitter
>>174453105
But she is bad in this meta. Shadow and Dragon shit all over it
>>174453065
lel.
i'm A3 atm and winning with sword
>>174453209
>One standard ticket, 100g for ToG packs
>sweating_man.jpg
>open ToG, shit
>open ticket, otomeme
Fuck.
New leaders when, and no the street fighter ones (are they even coming out any more?) don't count
>>174453375
Sword was the worst class even when it had the highest win rate. Just an awful class.
>>174453234
She can beat both with good draw. You guys obviously didn't play against this deck for quite some time. I can't blame you for forgetting how retarded she can be.
>>174453375
>i'm A3
>and winning with sword
That doesn't really disprove his point
>>174453417
When they add new precons and fix the broken cards. So another 2.5 months.
>>174453376
>otomeme from standard ticket
>>174453346
>STILL a AA trench nigger
>had no masters-level experience with RoB pre-nerf or post-nerf meta
yeah, no, you're a scrub
>>174453417
Whenever they get around to fixing liam`s jaw
>>174453320
thanks vampy
>>174453498
AA3* lad
Dshift with enchanted swords and blade mages is much more consistent than running flame destroyers.
I even won a game by buffing a Levi to 8/8 since my blade mages were bottom of the deck.
>tfw pepe/albert buff deck is just as strong if not stronger than old albertcraft
>tfw retarded faggots think they can '''''''''''''''control'''''''''''''' sword instead if playing its strongest deck(face) and driving down the winrates
Is sword in a rut or are controlcucks too retarded to understand that playing control doesnt make you good, winning does... ? Hmmmmmmm
If I make an alternate steam account can I make a new shadowverse file without losing my old one?
I'm already in masters but I want to try it all again with loli bats or midsword.
>>174453574
Dumb RoB newfag.
>>174453903
Why the fuck would you want to grind to masters again?
>tfw not a single soccer mom or meme roach in all of the standard packs I've opened.
>got staple cards for literally every other class
Game pls. The girly cards in Blood are counteracted by how metal everything is. I NEED this emasculation in my life.
>Cerberus' puppets don't have a voice of their own, she's voicing them
I think I'm actually really stupid
>>174453776
>>tfw pepe/albert buff deck is just as strong if not stronger than old albertcraft
nigga you dont even have 50% winrate
albert had like 53%
>s-s-s-s-self reported winrates!
shut up retard, the official numbers for rune that cygames showed us after the PR nerf showed that the aigames stats were and are accurates
>>174454148
>wanting to hear fairies over and over
>wanting a roach to impregnate you
>>174454148
>soccer mom
What?
>>174454182
Her puppet gimmick is dumb as hell.
>>174454141
It's the trill of the duel.
>>174453903
Also, what would make for a really badass grind to masters? Otohime? c blood?
>>174454182
They have their own voice.
They have a consciousness and do things independently from Cerb in the anime.
>>174454216
What the fuck? No it doesnt you retard.
>>174451803
>Trails in the Sky 3rd
is it good? I wanted to pick the first one up, can you give me a quick rundown?
>>174453618
>Trying this hard to pull rank in a children's card game
If Daria is so good then why is she sitting in tier 3?
>>174454312
Soccer mom is what people call Ancient Elf around here, newfriend.
>>174454216
>the official numbers for rune that cygames showed us after the PR nerf showed that the aigames stats were and are accurates
one data point showing that a deck for the craft whose archetypes are most dramatically differentiated is proof that the current stats for sword are accurate, yeah ok retard
>>174453776
Dumb frogposter.
Enjoy you shit deck, normalfag.
>>174454373
The first one isn't playable unless you use cheat engine to speed up the painfully slow battles.
I know #3 is playing mostly shadow, but what decks are the other two dudes playing? I see them in shadow but they have like 400-500 less wins than the guy at number 3.
Is the Jap just an autist who grinds out wins instead of getting good?
>>174454493
So if everyone started to play with discard this mean tha dragon is bad?
>>174454493
Every time cygames has shown us their numbers it's been something we've known from shadowlog already. It's never been wrong.
>>174454469
not saying daria is good, you dunce, just telling you not to get too full of yourself
>>174454518
I mean, it's on steam so it should be much of a issue to do that. Anyway, care to tell me a bit about the games?
>>174454550
>roach emblem
>>174454493
why exactly would one thing (3 things, as they showed each separate playrates for all 3 rune decks which were all accurate) be accurate but another one randomly not be?
you retarded or something?
do you understand how averages and statistics work, brainlet?
>>174454373
They are not for everyone desu. The start is very slow but I personally really liked it.
>>174451716
>>174451717
>>174451849good goyim
>>174454602
What, really? I thought the forest numbers from way back when were a few percentage points off what we had from the data sites. Am I confusing SV history and hearthstone history?
>>174454624
Basically they are generally well written and by written I mean there is A LOT of text. Battles are fun but nothing too special. You basically play them for the story that is somewhat slow at first.
Just watch some videos.
>>174454514
Sure goy. You know what so easy about playing a deck with a t6 wincon? because Cygames told you niggers the meta is slowing down and you believed it and now everyone is playing INCREDIBLY RETARD SLOW DECKS and giving my froggro deck free wins.
>>174454226
>wanting a roach to impregnate you
Orcs too.
>emotes me as hard as he can
>>174454890
Say that to my Tribunal, toad.
Any advice? I'm still losing in beginner when I play beginner in unranked
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.5zvAY.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.69LcA.69LcA.69LcA.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvB0.5zvB0.5zxcy.5zxcy.61jJs.61jJs.61jK0.61jKU.61jKU.61jKo.61lly.61lly.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.6DCAy.6DCAy.61k2a.61qeS.61qeS.6D9l0.6D9l0.fof0I
>>174453776
i'm pretty sure most people gave up control after gawain couldn't turn the tide
also frog was always meme tier, too easy to brick or get tech'd
maid is still the top for draw consistency, now you can draw a shitty lumin and hope you don't get punished too hard for it
>>174454837
So is it well written or just overwritten
>>174454613
Anons were saying she's shit and you replied saying she's still Daria which implies that she's still good which she isn't so you are indeed saying she's good
>>174454890
>It's a "frogtard thinks his deck is fast" episode
You are liek little baby.
>>174455072
What is lecia
>>174455028
>momposting while losing
>>174455169
>you replied saying she's still Daria
there's more than three people in these threads, brainlet
>>174455028
>Still suck daria's cock
13721
concede plz thank u very much
>>174455278
>Not wanting Daria's big throbbing cock to unload hot magical girl spunk all over your face and in your ass
>>174454748
They were right about rune rates, they were right when Cygames showed us the winrates for going first at the end of DE, and they were right with the numbers they shared after the harvest festival nerf. All of the Cygames numbers were extremely close to what we had available on shadowlog.
>>174455028
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174455116
Strange, I dont really brick my deck, maybe because I built it as an aggro deck and not a pepe deck with 3 dead cards called conscription and no officers.
>>174455180
>memedealer
Well, that's one way to speed up a game I suppose.
Don't forget bloodfed flower garden or whatever it's called.
>>174455143
Define overwritten. It's just takes a lot of time for character interactions that's all.
>>174454481
Kill yourself. Only retarded underage from /a/ does it.
>>174455709
a) I have no idea how calling AE "soccer mom" is related to /a/ in any way.
b) Take some English classes before you even think about replying to me ever again.
Reminder Purgatory Elf was weaker than Shadow is right now before homecoming was nerfed
>>174455279
I've got you
Any advice on this?
>>174455108
>>174455215
>>174455278
>losing
>>174455447
>>174455447
>tier3 deck
>cancer
Hagfag or just retarded?
*triggered*
Admittedly it's much more work than just playing regular midrange but It's worth it to make dragoncucks suffer.
>>174455846
>a)
>b)
Christ. Salama reddit shitter, you can stop now.
>>174455925
>angel of the word
is lyrial really good? i don't even remember the last time that used this shit evo effect
>>174456080
First /a/, now reddit. Make up your mind ESLshitter.
>>174456205
Yes, it's to specifically fuck up your stupid Rahab on turn 4.
>>174456232
No.
>>174454602
>>174455446
There's no reason shadowlog would have been misleading about aggregate first vs. second winrates. There's no reason shadowlog would have been misleading about HF-era forest winrates. There is a reason shadowlog might be misleading about the relative merits of face and control sword, because as many people (including shadowlog themselves) have consistently said, shadowlog has problems differentiating archetypes. The only time Cygames showed data was when they were discussing crafts with extremely strong archetype differentiation.
You can't just look at precedent and draw a sweeping conclusion of "trust the data" when those precedents have been consistently skewed
>>174455901
>>174455108
you have WAY too many low cost cards
If you fail at getting the Roach kill you will brick hard
>>174455925
Yeah bullying dragon is pretty fun, I mean it used to be fun and its still fun even though they got a '''''''''''t0'''''''''''' deck
>>174456232
She's a 2pp 2/2 like most other 2/2, BUT she gets 1 free damage on evolve.
How's that not good?
>>174456240
Both are the same thing in this context, stupid cancer. Soccer mom my ass
>>174455893
No it wasn't. Current Shadow is very dependent on drawing Catacomb while PtP never wasn't effortlessly dominating/clearing the board.
>>174455920
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
p.s.: Daria will always be cancer
>>174455143
it's good for a jrpg, lot of detail and world building, not too cheesy or overbearing
if story/characters don't interest you though then the combat isn't going to carry it
cold steel is probably easier to get into, coming to pc a bit later
it's hard to recommend unconditionally but i enjoyed as much as the old classic snes/ps1 rpgs, and it only gets better the deeper you get into the series
>>174456558
>Current Shadow is very dependent on drawing Catacomb
>>174456232
ONE FREE DAMAGE
FREE
>>174456232
How is she not? If she lives to evo turns you get 3 extra damage instead of 2.
>>174456558
what a fucking reetard lol shadow has plenty of board filling cards
More than 2 weeks since last legendary.
Since I stop spending real money, my legendary droprate dropped hard.
>>174456751
I almost never lose against catacombless Shadow decks. Get good.
>>174456751
It is. Midrange shadow bricks even more often than Daria.
>>174456951
Such as... Bone Chimera? The card that only Atomeme decks were playing until now?
>>174456558
>Current Shadow is very dependent on drawing Catacomb
lol
If Shadow was DEPENDENT on drawing 1 of the 3 out of 40 cards it has in its deck to win, it wouldn't have a 60% winrate.
>>174456492
>>174456815
>>174456839
ok you waste 1 evo poin in 2pp to destroy 1 skelly.
so how this help against dragon?
>>174455108
You have way too many low cost cards. Your deck is just going to run out of steam and then you lose because all you top decks are 1-3 drops.
You've got the skeleton for the roach deck, you could try getting rid of a lot of those 2-drops and 1-drops and try adding things like goblin mage, goblinhunter feena, and fairy princess mage to help draw roaches and power them up. If you want to maintain the tempo playstyle you can add cards like cybele, wind god, or Elf knight Cynthia to buff your cheap followers and fairies, and then try to finish off your opponent with roaches. Liza is also a really good 2-drop for tempo style forest if you can get her as well.
Cards circled in red are ones I'd try to replace with others. Green is for cards I'd max out with 3. Felpurr is in yellow because it's your choice, I'd honestly just use goblin instead because he's a strong card to drop on turn 1. Either way I'd drop the felpurr or goblin down to x2 so yo don't have too many 1-drops. You could also run x2 glimmering wings for card draw so you don't run out of steam so much.
>>174456985
Just because you didn't win doesn't mean you bricked, shadow shitter.
>>174456232
I'm not really sold on Lyrial. she can trade with things like rahab which is great but 1evo for 1 ping is expensive.
I'm heavily considering swapping her with elta.
>>174457152
>destroy 1 skelly.
no, retard, it goes face
it helps against dragon by going face until they run out of heals
>>174457163
>>174456436
Thanks, I really appreciate it
>Rune drops Goblin T1, Dwarf Alchemist T2
What am I in for?
>>174457152
What is your point, retard?
Ok you evolve ANY OTHER 2PP FOLLOWER AND IT DOES NOTHING. Lyrial does something. It's 1 damage that (most) other 2pp followers don't have.
>>174457136
>If Daria was DEPENDENT on drawing 1 of the 3 out of 40 cards it has in its deck to win, it wouldn't have a 53% winrate.
Shadow is at 56% btw.
>>174457325
aggro dirt
>>174457293
it's preference, interchangeable with a lot of low cost, i don't like devoting an evo point to it with all these dangerous clears and value shit flying around
a great card in a vacuum
>>174457393
That deck was never dependent on drawing Daria.
Clarke into double/triple Ogler t3 won games by itself.
>>174446937
Post dat dick, I have a playset of her.
>>174457393
Did it have a 53% WR post-nerf?
>>174457293
1 evo for +2/+2 ping 1
vs
1 evo for +2/+2
>>174456646
>t. d0
>>174456558
Urr durr I can't go face uur can't finish it durr muh board was wiped durr my opponent keep trading I drew like shit lol
No, you got outskilled, bb.
>can't stop feeling ashamed of my animated Cerberus even though I bought it months ago
>>174457521
Yes. And Albertcraft was at 55.
>>174457683
>"ashamed" for supporting the developers of the game that he's playing
How much of a cuck do you even have to be?
>>174457856
At least he feels ashamed for being a scrub, unlike you.
>>174457629
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
64589
need a concede
>>174457136
this, /svg/shitters don't understand shadow at all.
catacomb is a great card, but it's basically just the straw that broke the camels back.
aggro had a functional and strong deck even before catacomb.
>>174457640
The thing is that PtP didn't care about sacrificing all of its followers because it was only drawing them closer to their wincon. It's like unga aggro but enemy followers instead of face.
I couldn't win with the old Dshift lists but the ones with Blade mages and enchanted swords is working wonders. Beat a ''midrange" shadow by turn 8.
You chain so many 0 costs spells together your Dshifts suddenly become very cheap.
A single blade mage evolved with two enchanted buffs is already more effective than two flame destroyers. You're free use any other blade mages as cheap removal if needed.
I said this in RoB but Rune did not need a storm follower. It was crazy in Daria and now has support in ToG
>>174457559
1 evo for +2/+2 and stopping most effects you mean. which can stop things like sibyl and eachtar, forcing them to play off curve.
Just crafted 3 cerberus.
Sorry /svg/ but 7 lose streak is too much
>>174458089
thank you vampy-chan
>>174458361
elta gets +1/+1 you dolt
>>174458073
>t. d0
>>174458503
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174458172
It wasn't even close to be as strong though. It always was simple to get rid of Aggro Shadow boards because they rarely had more than one follower per turn but things are different now and that's only thanks to Catacomb.
>>174458538
t. faggot
>>174458538
>t. d0
>>174458448
>>174457559
>1 evo for +2/+2 ping 1
>vs
>1 evo for +2/+2
he seemed confident it was +2+2 and I have a bad memory.
>>174458652
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>play dragon
>don't have bahamut but figure that whatever, I can just roll without him
>meet the only dude playing Elana on ranked
shiiiiiiieeeetttt
>>174458703
>t. d0
>>174458703
>>174458652
Get a room you two ;)
>>174458825
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174458903
>t. d0
>>174444224
Looks to me like dragon winrates aren't out of line considering it's preying on retards with netdecks teched to have a chance against broken shadow.
Doesn't even have positive winrates against blood or forest despite shadow dictating deckbuilding.
I get that you like to bitch and understanding anything is too much work for you but a nerf to shadow will push dragon out of tier1 all on it's own.
>>174458903
/worthless cancer/i;boards:vg
cya
>>174458392
it's my first time being the cancer.
holy fuck daria was like that too?
>>174459004
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174456531
This general has been calling AE "soccer mom" since at least November of last year. You're just a retarded newfag.
>>174458392
Good job not being able to climb with a non tier 1 deck, dumb bandwagonner.
>>174459186
I stopped replying to him after that post for a reason, don't give the ESLtard the (You)s he so badly craves.
>>174459304
Report and filter is the only way at this point.
>>174459148
>midrange
>cancer
>>174459181
>t. d0
If you have both in hand do you play Belph or Dealer T4 ideally?
>>174459357
>tier 1 deck
>not cancer
>>174459357
>higher winrate than aggro
>somehow not more cancer
?
>>174459421
dealer does damage to you no matter what, belph doesn't
>>174459369
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174459437
>>174459462
>winrate = cancer
d-shift and mindless aggro are cancer, midrange shadow is overpowered, learn the difference
>>174459498
>t. d0
>>174459421
Dealer if you go first, since anything evolved will die to dealer
Second I value the card draw, and you're going to evolved Belph anyways so it's already a 6/6
>>174459421
depends on your hand, you want to play airjammer right after belph/dealer. dealer is good for blocking that t4 evo. i'd use belph against aggro though
>>174458174
It's no surprise that PtP only ever worked effectively in Forest. When you have a bunch of tokens to burn out and a spell to destroy your hand, it barely make any difference to what happens with your bonus resources.
>>174459576
Explain how midrange shadow is somehow less cancerous than aggro shadow while being more oppressive and allowed for less counter-play
>>174459737
Get smoked
>>174459649
Midrange shadow's harder to pilot, require lots of brain cells, like forest.
>>174459186
That's why I mentioned that "only /a/ fucktards does it". What's next, Discord circlejerk, are you gonna tell me that we also call Vampy Tramp, and that it isn't just one retard from /gbfg/?
Do I need a third floral?
>>174459895
That's not true in any way.
t. midrange Shadow player
>>174459806
>t. d0
>>174459353
Nice damage control kid
>>174459952
5 lumious is too much 2 floral is perfect.
the deck is good
>>174459895
>>174459895
>pushing le thinking man's deck meme
Here's the closest I was able to get with what I had. I'll report back with the results
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.5zWm2.5zWm2.5zWm2.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.61lly.61lly.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.65cLM.6DCAy.6DCAy.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.68zBM.68zBM.68zBM.6D9ks.6D9l0.6D9l0.61jZA.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.69Lbs.61l_Q.61l_Q.68_dS.68_dS.61jKe.65XTK.65XTK.65cL2.65ZvG.61NLc
>>174460065
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174460272
>t. d0
>>174460180
>>>>>>>>>Gilgamesh
>>174460323
Kill yourself, worthless cancer
>>174460323Post more witchtits
>>174460325
I'm guessing he's bad?
>>174460454
Fuck no
>>174460325
GIRUGAMESH
>>174460454
Is not that good forest have better cards. show what you have anon so we can help you
>>174460454
yeah, you don't really need him, play 3x sylvan justice
>>174460407
>>174460445
Oh you.That's all i have
I just got bodied by a Support cannon deck playing Lathams and Monikas.
If Support Cannon was 4 pp I feel like it would an amazing card, but alas turn 5 do nothing sounds like ass in most matchups
>>174460716
Support Cannon would be insane at 4PP yeah.
>>174460445
Magisa was made for the sole purpose of breeding!!
>>174460616
Aw, guess I'll have to keep it going then
>>174460716
Turn 5 do nothing sounds like a concede button. ffty
New bread with magisa, boys.
>>174460716
A lot of amulets would be really strong with -1pp cost in this expansion
Support Cannon, Candelabra, Fairy Cage
>>174461187
Fairy Cage would still be terrible at 3
>>174461076
Make one thread where I can slay Discord cucks out of this earth.
>>174461187
Candelabra is fine at 3. It doesn't curve well with Ritual, but it's an okay card.
>>174461076
Ask and you shall receive, anon
New
>>174461269
>>174461269
>>174461269
>>174461318
but these things need to curve well.
at least we could have something to beat shadow
>>174461318
Yeah, that's true, the problem with Candelabra is that you can't consistently draw it
But it would still be insane at 2