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Witchtits edition

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Mutagenic Bolted: >>174428632
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>>174461269
Thanks, qt.
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>ranked is shit
>take two is at a lowest point too

how do you fuck up this much
literally no point in playing anything that isn't shadow or dragon in the draft mode too, holy shit
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You are all insane. This general has the worst people I've ever seen.
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Replaying the game again.
What should I grind to masters with starting from beginner rank?
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>>174461421
Any time, anon
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12741916

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741901
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That was cute.
I guess this is what you get to see if you don't just kill them on turn 6.
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>>174461458
>how do you fuck up this much
By being "Magic pros" :^)
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>>174461510
Discard dragon
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Reminder that Eris is young and fertile.
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>>174461458
Sword and Haven are pretty good.
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>>174461458
T2 is balanced, fuck off.
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Post your latest games.
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>>174461647
Please no pure meme decks. Something at least somewhat viable.
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To the guy that was playing bladeshift against mid shadow in the other thread, don't get cocky. He most likely bricked. I know from experience.

I'm thinking of switching to Daria from Dshift because of the lopsided matchups I'm getting. This is the most recent list from GameAI that I might use, unless there's something better. Below are my matches in AA0 for an idea of how I'm doing and what I'm facing.

Roach 0-1
Aggro forest 0-1
Control forest 1-0

Gawain 1-1
Frog 0-1
Aggro sword 1-2
Mid sword 0-1
Ambush sword 1-0

Burn rune 1-0
Dshift 2-0

Aggro shadow 1-5
Mid shadow 1-4
Atomy 0-1

Ramp dragon 5-4
Ramp storm dragon 1-2
Ramp discard 0-1

Aggro blood 2-1
Vengeance 1-0

Aegis 3-0
Candle haven 3-0
Sun haven 1-0
Elana 1-0
Storm haven 1-0

27-25
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Do not disturb, mother and daughter are having a bath
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>>174461757
Dropped from AA1 back down to AA0 today
Feelsbad
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>>174461719
Balanced maybe, but it's still noticeably worse than before they decided to rotate standard and almost all of basic out like fuckin blizzcucks
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post armpits
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>>174461421
Do you even know its character name?

>>174461548
Do you even get tired of doing what redditors tells you to?
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>>174461458
>how do you fuck up this much
the devs don't give a fuck and neither should you
if you want to be a salty piece of shit reddit is just around the corner
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>>174461986
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>>174461986
GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIR
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>>174461986
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>i can't argument without the words hs or blizz
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>>174461986
Here's one, I'll post at least one more if I get a concede.

37072
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>>174462004
Do you even pay attention to your English classes in school?
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Forest craft noob from last thread here
Here's my Legos and golds
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>>174462234
Do you even?
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>>174461986
Here ya go, anon
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Luna a cute.
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>>174462273
lat just use the 3 rhino and 3 ancient elf you almost have everything.

liza and cynthia are good cards if you are new player.
in the pic the netdeck
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>>174461713
Sword and Haven are good but Dragon shits on both unless you draw enough luminous mages, draw banish for Ouroboros or don't get fucked before you can drop Aegis if you have it
otherwise Dragon loses to another Dragon that draws better, almost everyone of them shits removals like they are candies and still have massive presence and pressure especially if they drafted Ouroboros
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>>174462284
>cow
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>>174461460
despite the expansion doom and gloom, this general is still above average compared to others

if this is enough to give you an aneurysm you should be the one to take a step back
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>>174462273
Silver

Bronze isn't worth posting since I could just craft them
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>>174462517
>hating on cow

Shit taste
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>>174462227
>>174461986
Thanks for that.
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>>174461864
>Atomy 0-1
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>>174462631
gross
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>>174461460
This is honesty one of the better generals I've seen
MMO generals are way shittier than this
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>>174462448
Whoever combo Zell first wins.
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>>174462693
What do you expect, I'm going to be able to kill four 1 drops immediately as Dshift?
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>>174461460
Only problem in this general is the one idiot who keeps bringing up yurius and linking to his favorite ben10 game. The "reddit spacing" shit is bad but there's worse on /vg/
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>>174462667
Ding Dong's Discord's, fag
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>>174462887
but yurius need nerfs, blood is t0 and destroyed the game
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concede please!
13059
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>>174462946
I wanted to, but she really only has that one for armpits.
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>>174461869
That's Eris, though.
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>>174463086
arigatou eris-sama
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>>174462734
But that's wrong, anon
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Someone post a nep deck and I'll carry it to masters.
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How important is it to get stuff off of the reroll guide?
I pulled Odin, Alexander, Olivia and Bloodhungry monarch. All but one of them are animated. I got some of the golds that were mentioned. At what point is a roll good enough to stop?
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>play slow deck
>run into the only Dshit in existence

Why do people still insist on playing this fucking garbage T3 deck? Is the fucking game doing this on purpose?
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>>174463373
magisa should wear some panties
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>>174463429
re roll really helps new players since you can grind in 2 hours something from 3 three months.

you roll? re roll this shit, what you want to play btw?
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>>174463507
My Dshift still has a positive win-loss ratio, even though my rating fucking tanked because half the ladder is shadow players with way less points than me.
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>>174463429
None of those legos are really that great honestly, and only getting 4 in 40(?) packs is pretty underwhelming. Try to figure out what class/deck you want to play and then aim to get some of the key cards when you reroll. Stopping at a roll with lots of good cards also works
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>>174463507
this is to refresh your memory.
this is why the meta is not shit.
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>CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>174463547
But she does
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>>174463182
She's Luna's mother anon
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>>174463779
>20hp vs 20hp turn 18
nice custom game
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>>174463830
>Elf Queen
>Dragon bullshit healing
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>>174463429
There is 2 approaches you can take
You can re-roll until you get 2-3 legendaries of one of the cheaper decks and immediately craft that or reroll until you have a lot of good legendaries and then just play homebrew garbage for the first weeks

You wanna jump right in onto the ladder experience? The go with the first option, wanna just build collection and take it slow go with option 2
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>>174463830
He had me down to 3 actually and healed off literally all the chip damage I ever dealt to him with 2 israfils 3 sybils a lucifer and 2 draconic fervors. I probably played lily 5 or 6 times that game

God bless Elf queen
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>>174463985
>draw both bolts
>game never ends

Sounds about right to me
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>>174463701
>>174463639
>>174463974
Thanks. I don't really know what the average odds are vis a vis rerolls-expected legendaries. I'm probably going to go Dragons if I can, but blood seems interesting.
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How do I have fun with this game again?
>play Midrange Shadow
>20 match winstreak
>play Dragon
>fight nothing but Dragon
>get pulled into seemingly endless 20+ turn games due to neverending heals and board clears
>pick anything else
>get destroyed by Dragon and Shadow
This is just so fucking stupid and annoying. I want some variety in my life.
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>>174464151
RoB was 1 deck now is 2.

yay
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>>174464151
>playing tier 1 decks
>STILL whining
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>3 neps in a row
What made people start playing this again
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>>174464293
Yes, I clearly outlined my problem with that.
With Shadow I never lose, with Dragon my games never end. I have both of these decks and I'm calling them fucking cancer you twat.
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>>174464146
>go dragon
If you want to play dragon you need at the very least forte
Bahamuts help aswell if you wanna play some garbage ramp deck, since he's the big tempo swing card for that deck
If you wanna play the non garbage ramp decks you gotta grind arena for a long time

Face dragon is effective and cheap, since you only need forte as lego
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>>174464408
You are still a part of the cancer.
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>>174463714
Azazel in to snakes.
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What are some good alternatives for Tsubaki and Albert?

Their costs are fucking high but they are the last cards I need
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>>174464589
You can't replace them.
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>play "meta" deck
>nothing but dragon and shadow all day
>make deck to specifically bully dragon
>suddenly nothing but elves, swords, Dshift and even fucking Elana

It's like the game is doing this on fucking purpose.
I want to trigger, not get triggered myself.
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>>174464589
You can use DoD instead of Tsubaki but you need 3x Albert
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>play unranked
>run into the only 2 guys playing rune dtill with absurd perfect answers and draws >featuring turn 7 2x chimera and flame destroyer with not a single clarke or craig the entire game, with turn 8 daria into 2x ogler and blade mage
>other guy just got turn 8 double dshift off perfect curve and answers
this game makes me want to punch people some times
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>>174464875
>waaaah off-meta decks shouldn't be allowed to beat me
kys
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>>174464589
>albert
Gilgamesh, but I really do not recommend this one
>tsubaki
DoD
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>>174464867

I just got 2 so I am on the right path

Swordcraft and Erika is my girl so I am just sacrificing alot of cards I dont use
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>>174464292
Retard
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>>174464440
Thanks. I'll get back to rolling.
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>>174464589
I have no Tsubakis and only one Albert, so I run Monikas with more low-cost followers like Oathless Knight
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12784047

Important poll anons!
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*blocks your path*
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>>174464589
Giant slayer and Gilgamesh :^)
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Does anyone else just play one class?

Been playing for months but Swordcraft feels good to me so I just stick with with it
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>>174465223
I get to 200 ranked wins and then drop the craft for to grind out the next pack achievement
Thank god I got rune done with during RoB
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>>174465115
Nice Grimnir you got there.
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>>174465223

You be you dude its easier that way since you can focus on destroying cards you dont use
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http://usamin.love/card/dark_jeanne/j_summon.wav
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>>174465223
When I started my only deck was midsword so I played nothing but that. I would never say I mained it, it was just the only deck I had to play. Also makes me laugh when people bitch about players of a deck of any kind, as if they care what you think about them, or as if you should vial your viable deck to make a separate one just to appease them.
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>>174465223
I play whatever the dailies ask me to, but I put all my vials into rune and JO dragon only
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>>174464589
I ran giant slayer when I didn't have tsubaki. It was fine.

Albert can't really be replaced. You need at least one. Ideally two before you make a sword deck. I used Zeus as a substitute for my third and he worked fairly well but he's a legendary too. The only budget albert would be Gilgamesh. Which isn't great, but it's not unplayable..
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This game has even less decision making that hearthstone. You can tell who's gonna win the shadow mirror after the first 3 turns are played out, it's pathetic. And there is nothing worth playing except shadow, because it wins every matchup.

This game deserves to die, it's like playing the card game War, you just flip up your top card and hope it's better. There's no actual gameplay, it's just playing our the curve.
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>>174464846
I mean just look at all this.
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>>174461869
is there full picture for this somewhere?
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>facing shadow
>beast-spar-cata opening
>suddenly drops Elta and evolves
>drops lord Atomy
>Elta cancels his fanfare

You know what, I ain't even mad.
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>>174465620
O.O
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>>174465527
>Shadow losing to Dshift
Is there a new iteration of DShift I'm not aware of
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>>174465798
look at his previous post
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>>174465620
I am still waiting for the madman to drop 3 Atomy with Elta and a Mammoth on turn 5
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>mfw I memed myself into Master
Eat shit bandwagonners
>b-but m-muh 40% winrate deck
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>>174465567
No idea, you'll probably need to go deep into pixiv to find author. I would be glad if you could also find anyone who could translate this
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>>174465850
That would require the most perfect curve.

But jesus christ how terrifying.
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>>174465978
>play t1 decks for your entire ranking process
>sit in your trials for 2 weeks trying to get a bo3 win with frog so you can shitpost here
really showed us
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>>174465848
Oh nvm then
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>>174465460
>This game deserves to die
you could have deduced that the second you saw the word "Cygames"
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>>174466104
I posted in the previous thread that I literally don't have any legendaries for t1 decks, eat shit retarded bandwagonner.
FROG IS STRONG
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>>174465620
Stop making me want to craft 3x Atomemes REEEEe
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>>174466259
Matches?
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>>174465445

Sweet thank you I already have 2 Alberts but Gilgamesh seems meh ill just use to fill space

Giant slayer should work till I can get tsu
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>>174466467
1066 or so.
500 is average for t1 decks, so 1000 with memes is just fine
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>tfw midrange shadows kills unga bunga blood faster
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>>174466547
Class matches.
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>>174466761
292
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>>174461269
I don't even play Shadowverse but does Shadowverse have a lot of armpit fanservice?
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>Catacombs and Zell gets nerfed
>Sword becomes T0
are you ready for ungacraft being top dog again?
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Nep is back bois
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>>174466871
Sexual deviants are infesting these cancerous generals, especially pedophiles
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>>174466895
it's always like that
>>174466871
we kind have
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>>174466970
fuck off /hsg/
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>>174466835
Pic.
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At this point in the games life, which class ISN'T Unga?
Dragon is just Zell combos for unga
Shadow is all unga right now
Sword can only do unga at all without losing
The only rune decks that are viable rely on unga
Haven aegis unga bunga
Forest roach unga
Blood kys unga
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>>174466981
thanks for that really hot image
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>>174467090
>Haven aegis unga bunga
so you're complaining about the lack of alt wincons?
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>>174466967
Which version of nep are you playing? 2378?
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>>174467086
Here.
Also weren't we supposed to receive 1000 rupies once we achieve master? I didn't get shit, and I thought I would get paid for this.
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>>174467194
23478 with ledger, found the list on reddit
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>>174466967
>won vs havencraft
how
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>>174467290
Mordecai? You run 3 and it's a 3-4 turn clock on its own, faster if you supplement it with other copies and grimnirs. Haven only plays aegis as a wincon, and it's slower than yours and harder to draw and play.
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>>174467287
I'm playing something similar.
How do you deal with perfect curve midshadow?
I'm guessing you don't
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should I cut lurching corpses
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>>174467531
if you do it you can die
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>>174467531
Only if you don't run soul conversions.
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>>174467184
I'm complaining about everyone calling everyone else ungashitters or "unga bunga"

Its not an insult anymore, its just how the game works now.
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>>174467287
>>174467194
what do those numbers mean when talking about decks?
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>>174467090
So the only non-unga card is seraph?
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>>174467660
Read Nephthys. You build your decks curve in a specific way to make her effect consistent
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>>174467720
Concede Dirt as well
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Dont mind me, just helping Arisa smile...
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>>174467660
secret hacker russian-codes
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MORE FREE PACKS WHEN?
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>>174465850
the only problem i have with atomeme is that it's a garbage deck
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>>174467757
Oh so the mana cost of the minions?
I get it, thanks anon!
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>>174467863
prob when 10 mil downloads comes up
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>>174467090
You've abused this term to the point that it has no meaning. Dismissed.
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>>174467863
Never
Cygames is codeword for Kikegames
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>>174467513
haven't played with it enough to know specific matchups, but against any kind of aggro or mid shadow, I try to keep stuff like unica and angel of the word and removal to out curve them and fight for board control. Ledger on 4 is a beating, especially if you're going first. 2 4/4s and 3 shadows and deck thinning for 1 card is absurd. Card is severely underrated.
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98973

Have the need for concede, will do so for you too if needed
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>tfw miss lethal because playing forest is too high IQ for you when you don't have 0 cost followers or nature's guidance
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>>174468147
>miss lethal as unga blood
>doesn't matter because I deal lethal next turn anyway
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>>174468147
>not playing lionel to make your own 0 cost follower combos
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>>174468147
>i'm too dumb to do elementary arithmetic the post
American education system boys.
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Request for a concede 83212
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Are there statistics about take two winrates for each craft in TotG?
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>>174468717
Thanks utsu's gf
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>>174468125
Private match lobby died, still need though. 97895
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>>174468120
>tfw just beat a dragon player who played 3 Odins for some reason and literally healed from 1hp to full with double Sybils

I wonder how mad he was.
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>>174468957
Thank you Eris
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>>174469028
>3 Odins
How did you even beat him? Unless he was stupid and wasted his Odins on non-Mordecai targets
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>>174469282
don't think dragon can overvalue neph desu even with LB they can't deal with 3 morde and 3 kawhy
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>>174469354
Guess they will be asking for more lightning blast spells next expac too
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>What should we do about dragon?
>Lets give them the most PP.
>Alot of heals would be nice.
>An infinite amount of board clears.
>Storm is essential
Great fucking idea Cygames.
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Well?
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kek

look what I found on facebook bros

heh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szVpziKOD4c
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>>174469782
ay lmao
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>>174469715
Here.

(Someone pls reply this to him)
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I hurt myself today
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>>174470150
If you tell me how I'll post it to him
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>>174469282
He played the first one to not die.
Then he realized I've had Mordecais and kept the other two for them.
One Kamura stopped his first Sybil.
Then he dropped Bahamut and I pulled double lich and another mordecai with Nep.
He had to run his Bahamut into another Kamura

tl:dr Kamura.
I guess you can say I was lucky he didn't get blast. It was fun though. Wouldn't mind to have lost this either.
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>play against aggro shadow
>lose

Glad to know the greatest factor in the outcome of this match was skill. Also, was there ever a deck that more accurately fit this statement than aggro shadow right now?
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>tfw just when you think it's gonna be a bad pack, Cygames completely exceeds your expectations

(Yep, it's animated)
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>>174467287
>found the list
>Q into the same list in unranked
what the fuck is this shit
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>>174470542
animated cards have a gold name.
i haveo one too
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>>174470150
>>174470336
Do I just press reply or what?
I never used these shit before
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>>174470501
Midrange Shadow is much stronger than Aggro Shadow.
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>>174470336
erm, well I don't know how to use Twitter either...
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>>174470628
>animated cards have a gold name.
Oh shit mang, thanks for reminding me, forgot about that.
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>>174470640
I posted it
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>>174470774
That was mean. He's doing his best.
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>>174470490
>Kamura
who?
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>>174470629
>Do I just press reply or what?
Yes, probably? I mean, what's the worst that can happen?
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>>174470848
khawy
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Damn, this meta might be shit and all but the burn dirt deck is pretty entertaining to play.
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Who /vacine/craft here?
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>>174470842
The sooner we get the message across that the fucking meta is already trash, the sooner they might take the hint, take a look at things, and change them.

>>174470774
Thanks! Wish you had also typed the "Here." part though
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>>174470994
I just got wrecked by mutagenic bolt in unranked, I was playing elena flame and glass and just when I was about to meme, he turned my shit into rats and killed me.
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>>174467983
So never. I even stopped recommending people to try this game out after TotG hit because Shadow is just too much cancer.
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>>174470501
>Also, was there ever a deck that more accurately fit this statement than aggro shadow right now?
Yes, Midrange Shadow right now.
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>>174470998
unless you're playing NepNep, fuck off, otherwise, welcome to the club
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>>174470998
Kill yourself shadownigger
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Should I hold onto any of these or can I vial them all
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>>174470150
I feel bad for Intern-kun. He doesn't deserve that.
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>>174471627
dragonslayer,furiae,wyrm spire are 100% no meme potential
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>>174471627
Many of those are fun and memeworthy and perfect for unusual deck
At the very least don't vial Cerwy, Phantom Dragon, Holy Sentinel, Dragonewt Charlotte etc
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>>174471674
Yea, and the Jews didn't deserve the holocaust, riiiiight.
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>>174471627
don't vial animateds you c uck
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>>174471627
>can I vial them all
I wouldn't
just vial the ones from standard packs since you will probably get them again
stuff like ceridwen should be kept even if it won't be used right away
dragonslayer's price looks like shit but it's 1 step away from being broken along with the rest of disco dragon
what are you trying to build anyway?
you should only vial stuff if you know what you want and are going to build it right after vialing
>>
>It's another "Dragon wins because Dragon's bullshit overpowered and everyone spent all their vials to play it and nothing else" episode

What a wonderful game this turned into by giving Dragon more clear, ramp, heal, storm and draw!
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>>174471627
Ceridwen is used on Atomeme.
Conjuring Force, Rimewind are used on Snowmen memes
Shadowed Assassin is used in Cursed General memes.
Ogre is just a very good card in general, he just doesn't have a spot in any of the current meta decks.
Holy Sentinel is not a bad card. Dark Offering is an OK card.

>>174471720
>dragonslayer
That card is bad even in Disco Dragon.
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>>174471920
nerf yurius
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>>174471920
And don't forget dragon is """"balanced"""" according to /svg/
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Alright /svg/, this is my meme deck from RoB
How do I improve it with ToG cards, give me suggestions.
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>>174471920
B-But Shadow!
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To the mad dragoncuck who just disconnected after losing, just wanted to let you know that you could've won if you hadn't misplayed a few turns earlier.
If you're here
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>>174472108
Probably a Reddit-cuck
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>>174472023
you can't just remove seraph and add flam and glass in all decks
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>>174472213
Yes, I can
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>>174472034
B-But Dragon!
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>Opponent always has the exact answer to whatever you play throughout the game
>They always go second unless they are Aggro

Hmmm
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>>174472451
CAn't you see? the abusive WR of going first
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>>174467287
>turn 4 - do nothing
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>>174471920
"Good job, you healed to full to negate everything I did, cleared the board, and got to 7 mana in 4-5 turns! You're so good at this game!"

Literally what I say every time I play against autopilot dragonfags.
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>>174472923
They should just nerf all those retarded dragon specific neutral legendaries that would be shit in any other deck.
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>>174472108
i am actually 100% sure that i've played against that guy before
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You seem frustrated.
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Aggro Shadowcraft Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Play Grimnir Turn 3 Like Nigga Play Unica Haha
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>>174472923
>>174473069

ayyyyyy
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>>174465567
That's the full picture.
https://twitter.com/he_be_/status/802565172539768833/photo/1
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So how did your favourite class fair this meta?
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>>174472451
>WAHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHH
>RAMP IS SO BROKEN
/svg/ is retarded.
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>>174473330
kms
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>>174473330
Maybe too well.
It's full of bandwagoners and bullies now.
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>>174461869
please stop posting this, hag is not my mom
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>>174473330
>TotG Haven
But that's wrong
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>>174473259
>Finally good
>Overshadowed by a fucking loli
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>>174473419
Eris is canon momy
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>>174473419
She's the mother Luna needs.
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>>174473409
Bandwagonners are dragging the overall statistics down
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>>174473585
>>174473589
Cerberus is Luna's mom.
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>>174467287
no wonder you found it on reddit
neph is incredibly slow and with shitty ledger it's even worse
Garbage deck
>>
whats the best dragoncraft deck
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>>174473409
That's just shadowniggers falseflagging.
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>>174473618
>16 year old
>Mom
She'd be her older sister if anything you baka.
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>>174473659
Ramp Dragon.
Are you new?
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>>174473589
>Urias with girls
Urias needs only company of manly muscular men.
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>>174473813
Eris is pretty muscular.
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FEAR ME
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>>174473813
>>
>control shadow's board all game
>drops phantom howl/cerberus/eachtar

What skillful play here. Might as well just concede right away since apparently """""midrange""""" can outrace you with cheap followers AND win after you wipe everything.
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>>174473902
Forte is to be respected, not feared
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>>174473902
Go away, Shorte.
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>>174473330
I liked this image.
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>>174473938
Should have Themis'd a few more times bro
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>>174474056
>Themis shadow's board
>get phantom howl'd

Outskilled.
>>
Are all other decks that bad for ladder? I've been playing WolfBolt in C and have a good win rate with it, but I'm starting to find it rather annoying to play given how often my hand is full of cost 1 token shit that I can't get rid of.
I'm mostly interested in Vampy and Royal decks.
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>>174474180
>C
You can play anything you want until A rank.
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>>174474180
>C
git gud
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>>174473330
haven should be nigger-bird because aegis is garbage
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>>174474161
>I have to defeat my opponent instead of stalling forever? What???
hagfags everyone
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>>174474180
until AA you can paly with anything. but the really shit craft is rune and they deserve that
>>
This game is becoming as unenjoyable as Hearthstone, what the fuck happened?
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>>174474302
>Shadownigger trying to defend a 60% winrate deck again
Fuck this general.
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>>174474278
>>174474285
In Rob I was actually facing full blown Daria decks as early as B, so I was forced to make a legit deck.
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>>174474394
Fuck you too buddy, take your baby rage back to >>174464556
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stop playing vagabond frog
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>>174474395
Dorothy was rather cheap considering you only need 3 legend and 3 gold
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>>174474394
>hagshitters trying to defend their passive bitch ass no fun allowed deck
You can fuck right off
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>>174474395
>has been playing since RoB
>is still in C
>has actually been to B but is so bad that he fell back to C
maybe card games aren't for you anon
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>>174474395
I started playing in RoB and made it to A rank with a budget dirt rune deck

Sure, there are netdeckers in dumpster ranks, but its almost guaranteed they don't know how to play the game.
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>>174474285
I started playing again last week really.

>>174474278
>>174474346
That's nice to know. I kinda want to refine my plays with WolfBolt but I legitimately have no idea of what I should do with the thousands of fairies I get my hands filled with. I win often but I always feel like I just lucked out on the win condition.
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>>174474394
lmao happened with albert literally last month
once they nerf shadow and dragon midsword will go back to 60% and everyone here will say the game is finally balanced again
>>
So what's the exploit to doctor in perfect hands and draws throughout the game? Because these games are going the exact same way turn-for-turn and it's more than a little suspicious.
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>>174474501
Kill yourself, shadownigger
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>>174474535
>no fun allowed deck
>not shadow
lmao
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>>174474625
Midsword was at 54% winrate and had counters.
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>>174474546
Those are clearly two different anons.
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>>174474625
blood will be #1 if they nerf shadow and dragon
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>>174474627
is called apophenia
>>
>>174474546
I was speaking in past tense, ESL scum, obviously referring to the time when I was ranking up, since I obviously disagree with their statement that you can play anything up until AA.
Besides it is impossible to fall back into C from B, what are you even talking about?
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>>174474627
it's called not being an unluckshitter
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>>174474535
Yeah let me play my "auto win literally every single fucking match up" Shadow deck instead so both me and my opponent can have a fun time.
Kill yourself.
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>>174474625
Sword is the most balanced class right now desu.
>>
looking for a good old concede
47235
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>>174474756
Just had another perfect turn-for-turn opponent. It's not my perception, this is going on and I want to benefit from it too to even my odds.
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>>174474627
>Because these games are going the exact same way turn-for-turn
That's how the probabilities work in a game with this deck size and mull system
If you didn't find repetition of patterns like this comforting, maybe you shouldn't have signed up to play a Japanese game, baka
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>>174474627
It's called playing Shadow.
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>>174474759
calm down
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Guess what happens next.
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>>174474790
>right now
>when it isn't being used
yeah pretty much the only time it's been balanced :^)
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>>174474759
>it is impossible to fall back into C from B, what are you even talking about?
only a shitter would have ever been in a position to glean this information, my point stands
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>>174474859
thanks lad
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>>174474776
>>174474650
Yeah instead let's just play "I can never win but keep dragging the game on forever" Haven deck so both me and my opponent can suffer
>>
>>174474923
israfil's proc triggers giving reaper +3/3 and he concedes
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>>174474923
he got greedy and attack grim with isra and then lurching killed utsu and he disconnected
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>>174475034
assuming he doesnt lose the 50/50 on lurching corpse, in which case he concedes even fastger
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>>174474753
They only need to nerf shadow for blood to be #1. Suicide blood already beats dragon pretty easily.
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>>174475016
t. ungatumor
You deserve to suffer, shadownigger.
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>>174475016
>expecting a control deck not to stall
>expecting haven not to stall
dumb ungatard
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>>174474970
Anyone knows this who interacted with the community since day 1. People tend to ask questions when they start new games y'know.
>>
43778

Can someone please concede?
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>>174474030
Thanks. I feel like some sections could be better and I should've made them square but I think it turned out ok.
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Who /efficient/ here?
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>>174474870
stop being human and you will understand
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>>174475139
I'm not suffering as much as you are tho
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>>174475268

Thanks duckboy
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>>174475034
>>174475072
He attacks Grimnir with Sahaqiuel, tries to attack Reaper with Israfil, Israfil procs killing Lurching and Lurching kills Sahaquiel, Israfil attack goes trhough.
>>
>>174475087
Yeah, Rowen lost the instant he didn't have baha or lightning blast on hand in this scenario
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>>174475474
He already used a blast though. I knew he had Israfil in hand because of an earlier Sahaquiel
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>>174475215
every control deck stalls but only hagfags who are playing babby's first control deck whine so incessantly about not being able to stall successfully
you should be more like dirt mains, they're total bros and also inured to losing
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>>174475460
That's a massive Reaper
>>
>dragon mirror ramp
>I'd zellouro him with zell removing grimnir
>in his turn he drops rahab and dragon warrior
>evos rahab to hit zell

Why do they always hit Zell?
>>
>>174474870
There must be something in the drawing/shuffling algorithm to give you certain % of having x cost card at Y turn in order to get a fluid and entertaining match
>>
Has anybody else tried Krosmaga? It seems pretty fun so far
>>
>>174475582
>whine so incessantly about not being able to stall successfully
No, they don't. It's just you shadowniggers who can't get over the stupid banishcaust when you are fucking tier 0 right now and Haven is the second worst class in the game.
>>
>>174475247
why would I ever be concerned about falling ranks?
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>>174475654
>Entertaining

For the other guy
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>>174475460
Is that guy greedy or he dropped Olivia already?
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>War God
>has ward

You had one fucking job, Cygames, one fucking job!
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>>174475761
Olivia, the reason why I was at 10 because he Zell->Saha->Isra my face.
>>
>>174475691
If I were just an ungatard, I'd be complaining about dragon which is by far the more relevant control and healing class right now. I'm not an aggro main or a shadow main, I'm just desperately trying to get it through your thick skulls that everyone knows hag players are trash. By far the most rudest control players during RoB and the most prone to BM, and even now once all the tryhard bandwagoners have flocked to dragon, haven still puts up strong competition for that slot
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>>174473409
Shadowniggers are just diverting attention from their 56% wr class to the 'overpowered' 51% wr class by painting the turn 3 rahab into turn 5 10pp Bahamut as daily occurence.
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>>174475687
I wanted to try it, but those Steam reviews are pointing out the matchmaking is crap (puts newbies against their equivalent of masters players), the slow game, some Gods being hands down better than others, and pretty P2W with regards to card power levels, and the Uninstaller fucking up, forcing you to uninstall it manually (if you can manage to do that), have dissuaded me from trying it.
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>>174476048
>dragoncucks trying to avoid flak by pretending dragon isn't a t1 deck that it rightfully is
sad
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>>174475837
Remove this fucking card from the game already.
>Bahamut into Grimnir lol
>Aegis into Grimnir lol

EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKING.TIME.
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>>174475687
No, it's gameplay is just like monster monpiece. Cute monster girls are better.
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>>174476019
>muh feelings hurt by emotes!!!!

>By far the most rudest control players during RoB and the most prone to BM, and even now once all the tryhard bandwagoners have flocked to dragon, haven still puts up strong competition for that slot
>source: my ass

>Dragon is good against Aggro
I see, you are a D rank shitter. Opinion dismissed. I am not replying to you anymore.
>>
I may have lost all 7 previous matches but this moment made my day
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>>174474394
>forestnigger thinks 80% winwolf is balanced
See I can do it too fagget.
>>
>>174476225
There is no tier list when you have a tier 0 deck.
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>>174476434
Yeah, now try backing up that claim, retaded shadownigger.
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>>174476225
It's a tier 1 deck that still loses against Blood, Forest and Shadow. But people here are still yelling 'muh infinite heal muh turn 5 10pp', which gets annoying after some time.
Meanwhile midrange shadow worst matchup is mirror.
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>>174476335
>>source: my ass
source: playing ladder, you dipshit
post your MP this season
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>grimnir in dragon
>grimnir in shadow
>grimnir in rune
>grimnir in haven
>grimnir in sword
>grimnir in fucking elf

Just delete this fucking broken ass card already.
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Why is Mid Sword SO MUCH FUN
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>>174476995
I agree. Bahamut was already fucking my dirt wards in RoB and now grimmir just screwed everything up completely.
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>>174477051
because it's like playing aggro with a backup plan
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>>174476995
No, we need more grimnirs. A turn 9 one, a turn 8 one, MORE GRIMNIRS.
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>>174477051


Because pulling out a clutch Albert last minute and emote spamming will never get old
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I just noticed now that Longcat is in Melvie's art. lol

I wonder if they'll make a "Longcat" follower card...
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>>174477161
>clutch Albert
Albert is the most predictable card ever. You see it coming from a mile and there is nothing exciting about it.
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>>174477161

I am more about that early game Floral Fencer enhance rape
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>>174477108
>>174477261
epic mem
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>>174477314
>>174477161
go fucking back you retards
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wha'ts the best forest deck right now?
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>>174477434
Roach, like always.
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>>174474923
>had a game where he could have killed off the reaper if he evo-traded saha into it before israfil
>he traded with israfil first
Dragonfags are like dinosaurs with peanuts for brain or what?
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>more than 80 games and never used the evolve in lyrial
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Thane is stupid, they should change his fanfare into a necromancy or something. Otherwise the ward and bane on the 0 cost king is always guaranteed. It's too much value for a single card. I said this as someone that plays shadow the most.
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>>174476995
>grimnir in fucking elf
not anymore lol
maybe last week

>>174477434
play silver bolt
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>>174477594
fag
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>>174477595
Thane, Eachtar and Prince are all retarded.
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>>174477639
Silver Bolt sucks compared to pure roach.
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>>174477594
>more than 80 games and never got healed by unica
What shitty cards right?
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>>174477583
Anon, how do you do that with that ward on the field?
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>>174477595
It's funny to me that Thane is almost completely overlooked thanks to the bullshit that is Catacomb and Eachtar despite being only marginally less bullshit.
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>>174477639
>not anymore lol

Don't fucking tell me last week. I just lost to two elves who played tarzan into grimnir.
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>>174477595
Now compare it to Undead King.
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>>174477314
I'm more fond of luminous mage. bait out their evolve with something like floral, they see a 3/4 with a potential to summon a 2/2 and 1/1 that they can completely cuck with a 4/4 evolve. so they do so.

and then you 4/5 luminous mage for free, and look there, a 2/1 that will almost always live because they spend all their pp killing the mage. I've had plenty of people just straight up concede when the mage comes out turn 5.
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>>174477314
>I am more about that early game Floral Fencer enhance rape
Hello time traveller from DE
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>>174477783
it's a 4 card package
are you seriously telling me that the 4 worst cards in your deck are better than having the option to break certain matchups in half with a 0 cost silver bolt?
if people play their bolt decks too all-in on the T9 and lose that's their problem, doesn't mean the deck is weak
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>Cygames gives me my 4th Zeus
>It's not animated

Come the fuck on, Cygames, throw me a fucking bone here!!! If you're gonna give me shitty legendaries at least make some of them nicer to look at!
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what counters wolfbolt roach anyway?
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Post Thicc vampires!
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>>174478080
Shadow.
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>>174478080
Csword with roland
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>>174478080
Shadow and Roland. You might as well surrender the moment Roland comes into play.
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>shadownigger misses 2drop
>luna no make da yo
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>>174461269
Magisa leader when? I'll start playing Rune even if it has 30% WR
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>>174477884
Not the exact scenario. Just a 7/7 reaper with a bunch of followers with skeletons inside.
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>>174478018
Drawing 2 Silverbolts in the early game against Shadow feels like absolute shit. And in late game never having the opportunity to drop Wolf without dying also feels like shit. Most of the time I have those cards in my hand I've wished they were something else so I went back to my variant that doesn't have them.

Please do show me a good decklist or something cause I'd rather my Wolves not be a waste of vials.
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I'm master rank. What's stopping me from inflating the value of score by running a bot that does nothing but concede matches?
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>>174478061
>2 packs later, Cygames gives me this

F-forgive me, Cygames-sama, I never sh-should have d-doubted your greatness m( - u-)m
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>>174478343
Nothing, Santa. Gimme dem free points.
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>>174478080
Shadow counters everything.
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>>174478343
pls do it anon
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>>174478343
There are tens of thousands of master players. You aren't going to make a difference.
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>>174478465
>tfw commandcraft is bad
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>>174478265
>Implying they won't cover up Magisa by dressing her up in a fucking Taliban-style burqa when they already had to cover up Isabelle's conservatively and reasonably-sized breasts
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>>174478665
>he doesn't play uncensored
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>>174478792
>cow
and why would anyone want to see that dumb whore's tits
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>>174478465
>Another 2 packs and Cygames gives me my 2nd Elf Queen
Cygames-sama must really like me today.

>>174478606
erm wat?
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>>174478865
>implying Magisa's lewdest assets aren't her armpits
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>>174478892
Why would you need a second Elf Queen though
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>tfw using luna to get masters
love this shit, playing with t2 is so hard
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>>174479024
Cygames-same doesn't give us what we want, he gives us what we need. It is not our place to question his mysterious wisdom.
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>>174478865
Anyone who isn't gay
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>>174479291
>used goods
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>>174479248
Please explain to me how in the name of fuck is MidRange Shadow, and Shadow in general for that matter, what we needed?
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How many EPM and Feena should you have in a wolfbolt deck? I have 3 of each and they are always everywhere
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>>174479435
you don't need feena
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26816

Please concede. Can play it out if you want.
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>>174479345
It's alright if it's /ss/
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>>174479469
I want to forcibly inseminate Feena!
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>>174479435
EPM isn't needed in WolfBolt. If you see someone running her, it's pure roach
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>>174479410
Sometimes he gives us challenges that we must overcome.
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>>174479473
ty vampy
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why do the concede anons always use vampy emblem?
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>>174479227
>misplay like an absolute fucking retard
>doesn't matter at all
I just hope I make it to masters before they nerf this
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>>174479410
Some people just want to play as necromancers with unkillable undead hordes
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>>174479516
I'd self insert as Magisa
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>>174479473
>>174479745
Thanks for the Elf Queen.
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>>174479410
>the ability to swarm with horde of undeads
>not what the craft needed

What does Shadowcraft need? More desert rider?
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>>174479410
the concecpt of shadow mid range is fine the only problem was cygames not giving tools to deal with the craft.
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>>174479823
discordfags, dont give them attention
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>>174479970
>More desert rider?

Yes. Who said anything about what Shadowniggers need? That question was about everyone else that now suffers because of your overpowered as fuck craft.
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I didn't think we could have a shittier meta than DE. Bravo cuckgames.
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how is dragon's winrate against non-shadow classes? that deck seems ridiculously powerful to me
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Catacomb can't cast on himself.

Make Orthrus a 4 mana 2/2 that either does the 2 damage to enemy minion or +2/+0. Not both. Maybe both if you evolve her.

Up the mana cost of Soul Squasher. The 4 necromancy is less a problem than how cheap it is to play. See Big Game Hunter nerf in HS.

Shadow is now reasonable and we can all go back to enjoying this fun game. I actually feel once shadow gets toned down we'll have a very diverse meta
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>>174480130
I'm not even a shadow/dragon player, but DE meta was still worse if not as bad.
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>Cygames gives me another motherfucking Vist, Elf Butler

I know your address you motherfuckers!!!!
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>>174479970
>More desert rider
what is this meme, I keep seeing it?
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>>174480251
>reddit syntax
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I need a private match win, if you stay I'll do another one and lose back. 66401, thx in advance!
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>>174480305
>reddit typing
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>>174480205
lad dragon only have 60% of WR against haven and Rune.
against shadow is 46% of WR and everything else is 50%
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>>174480229
Prince already comes with last words.
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>>174480081
>crybaby mad because his class didn't get buffed
Cry me a river till next patch
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>Open my third satan
>Still no ptp
>No dragoons, sibyl, lucifer, ouroboros, zeus, bahamut, or genesis dragon
>Only 2 angel crushers and only 1 dragonslayer's price, israfil, and rahab
>Need cards from DE, RoB, and TotG
Cock fuck shit motherfucker. Set my memes free you fucks

>>174480130
You're gonna see some real magic in June when they try to fix rune's 40% winrates


>>174480271
>tfw 12 Zell and 1 lightning blast
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>>174480305
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>>174480205
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>>174480280
Minthe
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>>174480348
>Reddit arrow text
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>>174480479
>reddit alphabet
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>>174480271
I've also pulled 20 copies of that shitter and I still haven't seen a single Blast or Zell, so I had to craft them for my Dragon deck.
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>balanced h
>honestcraft
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>>174480340
Thanks medusa flair! Traded, done.
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>>174480585
Based honestcraft. Get fucked shadownigger.
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>>174480549
>reddit thoughts
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>>174480585
OUTSKILLED
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>>174480205
Slightly above 50 against non-shitcrafts. 56+ against both Haven and Rune, the shitcrafts. Negative against Shadow.
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>>174480585
should have double converted into ward breath, A2 shitter
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>>174480650
>reddit spacing
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>>174480734
>reddit-chanpeak
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>>174480467
Isn't that goliath though?
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>>174480376
>>174480584
Wow, I just checked and I actually only have 1 Zell. What the fuck.
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>>174480585
hitting face with storm every turn is honest
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>>174480585
>WAH WAH WHY CAN'T I WIN LITERALLY EVERY MATCH WITH MY TIER 0 DECK
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>>174480770
>reddit
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>>174480687
>53% is "slightly above 50"
ok reddit
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>>174480832
here >>174480447
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>>174480804
Honestly fun desu. Don't you have a sword deck? You can come over to my house and play with mine if you want.
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>>174480832
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174480925
Thanks but I'm not a homo
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>>174481008
>not a homo
>posts Erika
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>>174480832
Daria were "slightly" above 50 too.
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>>174480952
The correct term is negromancer, thank you.
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>>174480814
>>174480804
>>174480695
>>174480686
>>174480646
>chemocraft
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>>174481037
It's not /u/ when one of them has a massive horse cock.
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>>174480952
>B-But Shadow
I want Shadow nerfed into the fucking ground so you dragoncucks have nothing to hide behind anymore.
>>
Why can I literally never have Saha, Zell, and Baha in the same hand?
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>>174481008
I'm not inviting you over to do gay things anon. I just said you could come on over to my place and we could play some Shadowverse and maybe a few drinks just to have fun in a cimpletely heterosexual way.
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>>174480952
desu this seems to be fake look at haven is almost impossible to shadow win against eris
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>>174479469
>>174479571
I keep finding lists that have both and can't fuckin understand what hybrid I'm supposed to play because my deck has roaches, wolves, bolts and a bunch of other shit that sometimes ends up as dead weight or hand filler
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>>174481037
The princess has a dick, m'kay?
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>>174481176
Neck yourself, necronigger
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>>174480585
>>174481193
>losing with a tier 1 deck
>AND losing to a haven deck that isn't storm haven
LOL
>>
>Whale for the 6 buck 600 crystals pack cause why not
>First 50 crystal daily is 7 bronze and the guaranteed silver
>Nothing is even animated
I think I might just buy forte for the art, liquefy one of my 3 regular forte's and make another dragon gold or something. This is depressing.
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>you will never be as autistic as that one anon who tells everyone who trigger him to kill themselves
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>>174481341
Alright, buddy. You get to choose how you want to be lethal'd this time.
>>
seer's globes when
>>
I just started
Should I use up all the free card packs?
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>>174480229
>adding more PP to squasher

How many?
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>wolf stayed for 3 turns doing 12 face damage
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>>174481569
Yes? Why wouldn't you?
Read up on rerolling.
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>>174481569
Yes. Post your golds and legos when you're done opening them. If they're shit, then you should reroll.
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>>174481569
Yes, look up a rerolling guide to get the most out of them
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>>174481395
>you will never speak proper english
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>>174481530
You know that for the most part, you'll only be able to get a useful amount of seer's globes via whaling or top 100 masters right? You might get enough from top 1000 to occasionally animate some golds or maybe 2 legos a year. But you can bet your ass they're just going to make globes spark ticket II: please don't fine us after the daria scandal mobile games commission boogaloo

>>174481569
Yes. They're not good for anything else. If you didn't get at least 6 legos just reroll.
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>>174481176
>negromancer
eheh
>>
>>174481569

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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Grimnir is a filthy slut who will be in everyone's deck.
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>>174481383
>Actually paid money for crystals
You're depressing
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>>174482027
He's male, anon.
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>>174482106
Yes, and?
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>>174481569
No, don't open all the packs. If you run out of packs to open, Cygames starts deleting a random card from your collection every 24 hours.
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>>174482087
It was a hamburger. I'll admit I was sorely tempted to have my memeing be enabled and then that shocked me right back out of it.
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>>174478237
>Roland counters anything
>lost the game to wolf bolt when i had 12 hp with ward
>dude just killed ward then 0 wolfbolt and 2 roach face me all for 4 damage
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>>174482417
But roland takes 2 hit to kill? Unless he already has a board or may in hand.
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>>174482613
yeah he had board and may
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How fucked would this deck be on ladder at AA1?

I came back after a break and dont really have a good new deck yet.

Also, idk why the portal changed to korean after I logged in, but w/e
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>>174482264
>a hamburger is 6 bucks where he lives
You keep getting more and more depressing. Anyway good thing you came to your senses.
>>
>>174482834
Scroll to bottom, there's an option to change the language.
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>>174482834
Scroll right down to the bottom of the page and click on the English button to fix your language.
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>>174482417
Need mo' walfrid/lieutennant
Oh wait
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>>174482834
>>174482909
>>174482930
huh, never noticed that before.
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>>174480229
We sure will have a diverse game of zellcraft vs. neutral zellcraft
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>>174482985
I'm tempted to play wolf+homecoming to deal with death breath but then I have to take out elf queen.
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>tfw rites is late so I don't have a built hand to have enabled the kill from hand

>>174483040
Disco Zell is the true patrician. Pings and clears for days with a decent chance of an additional 10 cards to mill if one of your satans made it to the bottom somehow
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>>174483036
Open some Tempest packs senpai. You want some of them shiny new Blood cards.
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>>174483036
>>174482834
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390
Did you have a decent sized war chest for the TotG blood cards?
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I lost eight games in a row until this happened.
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>>174483480
2spicy
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tfw nothing to craft
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>>174483430
nah, I got sucked into for honor and back into das3 and just did the bare minimum with shadowverse. I got like 11 grand vials sitting around, but im still waiting to see what i pull for the next few days to commit.

I also have like 11 arena tickets and will probably dump them all when the reward goes to the new set packs.
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>>174483480
>not animated
meh
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>>174483036
>3x Righteous Devil
Put Blood moon and black mask in. They're pretty great for control blood and t3 blood moon > t4 devil is pretty humiliating for aggro, or even revelation if they don't get that t3 catacomb. I'd get rid of wraith, blood wolf, bloody mary, vampy, razory claw, night horde though. Replace veight with grimnir, and put spiderweb imp in.
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Not even 3 Death's Breath are going to stop me from bullying Luna

If anyone could link me to a guide on how to make nice webm's i would really appreciate it
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>>174483616
How?
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>>174483626
>for honor
what a fucking shit game
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I finally did it, thanks NepNep!
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>>174483651
Seems like whaled apparently, 80 packs can only get me up to 10k vials.
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>>174480952
Delet this! Dragon is the problem and the meta will be good after they nerfed it!
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>>174478237
>You might as well surrender the moment Roland comes into play.

Except Forest actually has healing, some card draw, and can outlast sword because every point of damage it deals actually sticks unlike when fighting dragon. If I can go for 20 turns and win against dragon, it's not so hard to do the same against a deck with almost zero healing. Durandal also does nothing against Tarzan and I run 2-3 of him now as well.

Commander based deck is actually harder to deal with. Forest is still pretty much fucked the second Otohime hits the board, especially if its on turn 5.
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So close to maximum memes levels
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>>174483795
>climbing with nep
the absolute madman
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>>174483616
>only two Tsubakis
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Need a concede. 45811
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>>174483779
I get to swag out characters and it makes me feel good about myself shitting on scrubs after my friend destroys me in guilty gear and blazblue friendlies.

Dont hate.
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>>174483912
>stalling for 20 turns against Alberto Barbossa
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>>174483626
They didn't do RoB packs for arena so it must have badly cut their whaling numbers. Just get your 4-1/5-0's and go to town.
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>>174484015
Thanks, freedom bro.
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>>174483648
>Opponent didn't topdeck Hector the turn he left you in 2 life
No heart of cards for him I guess
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>>174484117
well, that sucks. that was my main plan for getting packs.
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>>174483648
>no hector
Shadowbab bricked
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>>174484038
hate? I feel sorry for you
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>>174484038
game literally became uplayable only after 2 months since release.
All i get in duels are fucking chinese players with red pings and 80% of those games didn't even start
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>>174483795
POST DICK
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>>174484237
Eternal arena for vials to hard craft
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>>174484279
>he trusted ubisoft
hmm
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>>174484081
You realize Albert does less storm damage than the combos dragon puts out right?
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>>174484279
my duels have been going ok as of late, the damn chinese wardens are all in dominion for me.
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>>174484406
pls don't hate, i know i'm a retard for buying ubi title
>>174484443
Qs are also like 5-8 mins for duels and 2v2
i'm scared to go into 4v4 modes, considering how shitty and unstable they were before game died.
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>>174484412
>muh zell
You need 2 or 3 cards and an evo
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>>174483036
>>174483641
try this, can't imagine anything that could fuck aggro shadow harder.
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>>174484679
It's literally not hard to save an evo on turn 7, especially when your deck is filled with removal, heal, and wards. And the combo isn't just 2 cards, there's also the option for Saha combos or straight up being smacked by a genesis dragon or Forte. There's consistency in the fact that the good decks have multiple options to finish out the game.
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>>174484389
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.68_dc.68_dc.68_dc.6Ei7Q.6Ei7Q.6Ei7Q.68zBg.68zBg.6CsCi.6CsCi.6CsCi.6AtGA.6AtGA.6AtGA.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.673s2.5_TGy.5_TGy.6EmmI.6EmmI.6EmmI.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.6AviG.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg.63Jsg.63Jsg.6A-aI.6A-aI
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>>174484762
Will look into it, thanks for the list!
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Zell should have been a Neutral.
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Anons, how long after you started did it take you to reach masters? 6 weeks for me personally
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>Playing against a Lich spam deck
>Keep 2 trail of light and pyroxene
>He can't really do much cause he has removal he can't use on my empty board
>Vomit out a 16/16 angel crushel on curve
>Predictably, it's assblasted by a necroassassin
>Just kill him with Pukkun, lightning blast, and grimnir's
Dragon is aids.
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>>174485256
I have played since launch and I still haven't done it. Ladder always got my anxious so I just meme with stupid decks in casual.
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>>174485208
>lose game instantly against WolfAnomally
No thanks, forest already has enough OTK.
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>>174485208
>Wanting to destroy diversity

>>174485365
>Lasting to t9
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>>174485084
Cheers, friend. Any tips for mulligan and matchups? I tried all kind of Nep decks but I just can't seem to win with them.
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>>174485256
About 2 months for me, I fell for the sandbagging meme at the start but got bored of it after a week, so I decided to climb to Masters so I can meme in peace.
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>>174485453
ledger wins games, pretty much always keep it. Keep early stuff and try to prevent aggro/midrange from overwhelming you by curving out, and try to have turn 4 ledger. Keep Neps and Mordecai's vs Dragon and other control decks.
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57212

Help a guy out
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>>174485409
Crystalia Aerin is cancer, only hidden by the larger late stage cancer that is Dragon. She's Forest's version of Sybil.
Forest can ward as hard as C sword, while having better heals and decent board clear through Will of the Forest. Of course, having a board means jack shit if you're not shadow.
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>>174485853
Thanks friend
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Storm Haven mirrors are basically 100% luck.
>>
private mission desu.

80870
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>Run into a soul dominator tempo bats deck
Spicy
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>>174486064
Not completely. There is some planning. Mostly just playing around getting your board cleared though.
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>>174464589
You can sub out Tsubaki's for DoD's. As for Albert it's hard to cut him. If you aren't running any, luminous mages might be good. They get a free evolve for a trade or you can pump your current board. If you want to go SUPER budget, you could use that commander that gives your officers storm and go classic banner sword.
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post ToG leggo progress.
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>>174486591
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>>174486591
Barely got shit, capn

>>174486724
kek
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>>174486591
My luck is almost nonexistant.
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>>174473330
holy fuck, does someone have the pic of the quickblader by itself?
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>>174486724
Did you liquefy all your Anomalies?
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>>174486591
only ones I need desu
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>>174486884
i actually did.
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>>174486882
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Lol, even wardless daria beats aegis.
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>>174486910
I've also vialed at least 4 Zeus, an animated isafril, a Roland, and a minthe
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>>174486591
I have 2000 gold. Should I just use it all on ToG packs or do take two to get flair and more standard lego + gold? 30k vital in extra waiting for nerf.
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>>174486591
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>>174486863
>animated hector
I'm jelly.
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>>174486992
thanks senpai
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>Try to use Storm Haven
>Do well at first then just repeatedly get ass kicked
>Have to spend time getting back all the points I lost

I've lost so many points because I like to bring mediocre decks into ranked because they're fun and it always bites me in the ass.
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>>174486863
>animated eachtar
Motherfucker, I would exchange all my Dragon and Neutral legos just for his emblem.
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>place top 4
>during a month cygames stopped doing tournament prize support
damn it cygames i want muh 1000 vials
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>>174487014
Arena if you're able. You can craft what you want. The gacha is absolute shitler
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>>174486591
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got frustrated, bought three packs and got two aegis, is there some kind of budget aegis haven variant I can make with my cards?
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>dragon drops 2 grimnirs in a row at T7
absolutely not the best craft guys, trust me
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>>174487249

Aegis neutral craft

Make the standard neutral deck with carrot man, neutral strix, neutral minions, and close out the late game with aegis inevitability.
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>>174487249
I play elana aegis on my alt account with 2 aegis. Dunno if it will work in higher rank.

Code: 8m08

Take out the lucifer and tribunal with something else if you don't have it. Themis is a must though.
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>>174486591
>>174487146
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GUYS, /our tranny/ streaming!!!
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>>174487443
I mean, if you say so.
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>>174487530
>urd emblem
fuck you
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>People disconnecting right before a loss

Stay mad shitter, it won't make you win more :^)
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>>174487559
for what purpose?
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>>174487559
i bet he removed the cam because anon posted this pic
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Someone try this and tell me if it's any fun
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>>174487530
>urd
>ding dong
>eachtar
>minthe
All the good shit that I don't have. Fuck you m8, just fuck you.
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Need a concede 26286
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>>174487486
>>174487519

I'll give it a try, thanks.
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>>174487775
It's alright, you would still win most of the time just because of broken Shadow core cards.
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>>174487559
Thank you! I almost forgot about it!

#OurGirl #Withher #4chanforMolly
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>tfw finally crawled back up to 2000 master points

Tempo Forest was a bust. Long live Roach Forest.
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>>174487910
Thank you fellow smug emblem.
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>>174487775
I can already tell you no and that's what you get for grabbing a reddit list. Those tempo losses kill you.
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>>174487757
if he did, then that confirms he lurks these threads, like a monster, looking for prey
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>>174487723
ask him, not me
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>>174488138
>>174487968
christ what's with the attitude, did envybaer ever do anything other than exist
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>>174488258
The fact that you are shilling that little shit.
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>>174488001
What's the point of grinding for master points when only the top 1000 players receive anything?
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>>174461269
I have 16.1k vials and I want to make Storm Ramp Dragoncraft, these are my current legos.

Which ones do I absolutely need for the deck and which ones can I just upgrade into? I have pretty much the rest of the deck except for the legos.
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>>174486591
Missing
>0 bronze
>13 silver
>58 gold
>45 legos
Kill me.
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>>174488358
i'm not that anon i just don't see what makes them a bad person
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i dunno what to do
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>>174488386
It's not about grinding it's about proving to yourself that you and your deck are decent, as long as your number is going up then you're good as far as I see it

Tempo Forest was a grind, Roach Forest turned it into a breeze
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>>174488473
shush go away tranny fucker
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>>174488358
>shilling
>when he clearly doesn't post a link or anything
>even posts a comic edit exposing his transsexual deception
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>>174488685
it's a simple question i don't see why you have to bring tranny fucking into it
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>>174488713
>Its not shilling because he didn't post a link
Are you retarded?
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>>174486591
I should go back to spending rupies on arena, but I still don't have ouro/sybil emblems.
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>>174488438
>3 Darias
>3 Alberts
>Now he wants some Storm Ramp
A bandwagoner of I'd ever seen one
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>>174488809
It really seems more like anon posted envy for the express purpose of inviting scorn, for some reason.

Like whatever they're a tranny, why is that our business?
>>
>>174488845
I played D-shift in RoB, it's more of a hold over than anything since I play it just for quests.

And ya, I finished my swordcraft deck recently and ladder with it, typically go 8 or 9 wins before even hitting a loss.
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>>174488914
Why are you trying to defend him? It doesn't need to be our business to make fun of it, newfag.
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>>174488624
>tfw if they had satan they could just punch your board in the mouth or pass until you deck out
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>>174488996
>Why are you trying to defend him?
Why are you bringing them up just to shit on them? This is /svg/ not /roundupthetrannies/.
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25969
Need a concede
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>>174489119
Thanks Sibyl!
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idk why u guys bitch so much, just play pepo and win 70% of your games at any rank ez pz.
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>>174489113
>>174488914
nice redditspacing envybaer
now get the fuck out
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>>174489417
pepecraft more like peepeecraft
>tfw its winrate is actually garbage
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>>174486064
So is everything else in this game.
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>>174489431
could you possibly come up with a more autistic non-response
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>>174489417
>Neutral frog
>instead of superior hybrid aggro frog
>no goblins in neutral
Enjoy your turn 2 do nothing conscription and massive tempo loss
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>>174489581
peepee poopoo
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>>174489417
>>174489643
Also
>Gabriel
>Instead of Frog core Arriet
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>>174487559
I haven't laughed this hard in a while
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>>174489581
could you be less of a faggot?
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>>174489417
>turn 2 and 3 do nothing
>only 2 alberts
>THREE gabriels
this deck sucks outside memeing for a huge pepe
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Pukkun is so much fun.

>>174489417
I'm not seeing why you'd use a worse arriet
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>>174489797
all i asked is if they ever did anything bad to warrant getting shit on and you basically did everything yo could to avoid giving me an answer
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>>174488473
Trannies are mentally ill.
>>
>>174489886
you have to ask your reddit friends about it, nobody going to spoon feed you here
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>>174489896
so what you spam about a tranny to push your political beliefs, is that really it, they're not a diaperfur or ran anyone over with a car or anything like that

this is a card game thread faggot nobody cares about how much you hate trannies
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>>174490013
spotted the tranny
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>>174489950
okay /pol/ or stormfront or whatever strawman website represents your political beliefs, whatever you say
>>
Can I have a concede?
12974
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>>174490013
I didn't spam, that was my first post in the subject. kys
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>>174490110
you forgot to put three pairs of brackets around every noun while slapping on a pepe meme
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>>174486591
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>>174489771
Thanks!

>>174489886
>>174488473
If you don't understand why it's bad to pretend that you're a female streamer on fucking Twitch through lying by omission, you need to kys.
>>
>>174490227
>everyone who calls attention to my social retardation is an alt-right /pol/tard!
grow some thicker skin and maybe people will respect you more
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>>174488438
Anyone have any tips?
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>>174490013
>>174490118
>>174490227
>tranny internet defense force
How do you even get to this point?
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>>174490314
And if you don't understand how its not relevant to this general, then you need to kys
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>>174488386
Is there anything this month for the top 1000?
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>>174490358
You need more energy pylons

At most you could craft 3 Saha, 1 Baha and squeeze more phials for an Ouro
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>>174490013
>spamming
>one fucking post about a tranny is now spamming
LOL
>making fun of a tranny that plays the game our thread is for is now automatically a political topic
You need to go back, tranny-lover.
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Shadow is the death knell of every deck I play this expansion.
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>>174490358
It's probably cheaper if you run a sahaless version. The only things you really need are x3 bahas/sibyls and the rest is really flexible. You stick in 2-3 ouros, 1-3 fortes, maybe some genesis dragons.
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>>174490512
Is Saha really that important? I've seen lists top without ever even using him.
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>>174490438
>tranny streams this game
>not relevant
Truly retardation to the highest levels
>>
>>174490358
Sybils for sure. Then probably more Fortes.
>>
>Login to do dailies as sword

>Shadow
>Shadow
>Shadow
>Forest
>Dragon
>Shadow
>Dragon
>Blood
>Shadow
>Shadow

Is there any reason to play this game until the next balance patch?
>>
>>174474297
People remember and get salty about the big "feel helpless losses" the most regardless of actual win rates so they'll still complain about Aegis more, just like DShift. It's the same with how people are convinced Dragon healing has destroyed aggro (at least non-Shadow) because they remember the times when it healed out of their reach and left them feeling cucked, when in reality Dragon's still at a negative win rate to all aggro decks even with all the healing and barely has above 50% overall win rate. When the aggro player gets a good curve and kill the dragon player in 5 turns leaving them feel helpless instead, they'll barely remember it since that's just routine.
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>>174490601
>him
lol i fucking wish
only swordcraft gets cute boys
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>>174490601
Saha is EP-less rush and is basically removal/burn that leaves a 4/4 body behind
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>>174490636
>e-celebs
>relevant
Fucking kill yourself, twitchwhore
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>>174490709
Nope. I don't even feel like logging in to do dailies anymore.
>>
ToG is the worst think to ever came from a japanese asshole
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>>174490128
Thanks :D
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>>174490723
well, i wouldn't mind Dshift if we had ANY counter cards apart from hitting face.
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>>174490723
>Aggro
>Doing anything against a turn 3 rahab
Good joke.
>>
>>174490760
>>174490601
There's a reason people run it but the answer to his question is no: no saha versions are perfectly fine and better in some ways.
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>>174490880
Try playing less shitty aggro decks, my man.
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>>174490791
>"e-celeb"
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>>174490969
What aggro deck can stand up to a rahab/sibyl/saha curve?
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Whoever posted that Blood list earlier with Mastema in the list, I truly love you. Been crushing these SCUM dragon players all day.
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>>174491021
Shadow and kys blood. Coincidentally those are the only good aggro decks.
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>>174491021
>control deck that curves out beats aggro
wow
incredible
what an unprecedented event
surely this heralds the coming of a tier 0 deck
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>>174490885
>>174490760
>>174490729
Thanks, so if I go no Saha, what should I make? I see them only running 2 bahamut as ooposed to 3 with no saha, but 2 ouro and 3 forte, does that sound like a good ratio?
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>>174491089
>T1 craft can beat other T1 craft
Oh my god stop the presses!

>kys blood
It's much more even than you think, especially if they don't curve like shit. For example 2 rahab drops and you auto-lose.
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>>174491167
t. rowen
I can't wait to see all the assblast when dragon gets cucked harder than daria.
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"Midrange" Sword is still pretty good.
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The second I see
>dragon oracle
>skull beast
>prince catacomb
I just start roping
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I wonder who can be behind this post>>174491167
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>>174491085
I just crushed 38k master score dragontard with it, felt good
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>>174491312
>Happens in unranked while you want to JO
You blue ball me man, if you have this firepower go to ranked for your daillies
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>Play aggro blood
>Dragon ramps on turn 2
>Drops Rahab on turn 3
>Drops Sibyl on turn 4
>Drops ANOTHER Sibyl on turn 5
>Drops the Saha+Luci meme combo next turn

I conceded when I realized he still had 17+ HP by turn 6.
Is Hearthstone looking any better their expansion? I think I'm a little burned out from SV right now.
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>>174491174
I have never seen someone not run 3 bahas. He's too good. 2 ouros and 3 fortes is fine. I personally would go the other way around but ramp is super flexible and it's probably just preference. Like I said genesis dragons are good and they're only gold. Then you just fill the rest of your deck with removal/ramp. If you want you can throw in some combo enablers like wyvern cavalier to let you give storm to a freshly dropped baha.
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>>174491441
>he doesn't enjoy edging
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>>174461269
>http://usamin.love/card/dark_dragoon_forte/e_attack.wav
OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU BANDWAGON-SAN

http://svdb.ze.am/v/card/en/vo_104421030_3.wav
http://usamin.love/card/angel_crusher/e_attack.wav
You're a solid fighter
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>>174491537
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/nge-na-open-week-three-1st-place-lest-storm-ramp-dragoncraft

This list is kind of what I'm gearing towards right now
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>>174491468
Aggro blood is pretty good against dragon actually as long as they don't get a godlike curve, and you have very good chances going first.
But if you want something superior to dragons, then try Mastema blood.
You'll thank me later.
(Also switch out the razory claws for hungering horde if you want to beat midshadow)
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>>174491675
>Tech this against dragon
>Auto-lose against shadow which is the other half of my games

No thanks.
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>>174491303
It really is still good. I have been doing well with it as well. Its just gotten way more important to get those early Maid Leaders.
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>>174491637


>>174491468
No and unless they do a 180 it'll never get unfucked. Whatever you do, keep doing your dailies. You'll never reclaim lost ground unless you're sacrificing crafts, you've mastered arena, or you're a wagecuck whale with no sense or right or wrong.
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>>174491468

If you're at the point where you're willing to spend money, just get a good game that's lengthy
and/or replayable
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What is Erika saying
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>>174491468
>Is Hearthstone looking any better their expansion?
definitely, it's a huge change from the RoB era where SV (despite the centralization of daria/roach) probably had ~6 viable crafts and HS (despite ostensible variation) basically had 2 (reno/patches)
now HS has ~6 viable classes (RIP in peace gul'dan) and SV has... well, you know.
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>>174491721
Mastema blood wins solid against both actually, especially if you put in hungering horde
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>>174491648
wow this deck is pretty cheap
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>>174491675
>>174491721
I've completely stopped caring about the shadow matchup, I've given up. It's working well as seen in >>174490581 but my winrate is completely dependent on how many shadow I run into on a given day.
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>>174491837
Pretty much, since I have a good chunk of the legos already, and it's apparently first place worthy, so there's that.
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>>174491648
I guess that deck is super focused on going face instead of controlling so that's why it only runs 2 bahas. I still doubt that's a good idea but I see why they did it.

Ultimately x2 vs x3 of a card probably isn't the difference between a deck being good or not. I'd still craft 3 bahas before 3 of other ramp legos because you're almost always going to want them but do what you want.
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>>174491835
>Mastema blood wins solid against both actually,
Pretty sure Shadow is like 60%+ winrate against blood right now.

But do go on, give me more anecdotal evidence.
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>>174491915
Mastema blood isn't even meta enough to be listed on your shitty sites, it is a rogue deck, you retarded statwhore.
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>>174491721
The problem is that SV's current meta is essentially dragon and shadow taking turns beating up literally every other deck on ladder. Decks made to 'counter' shadow (there is no counter since the strongest 'counter' - control haven - still has negative win rates) tend to get btfo by Dragon and vice versa.

Basically if you don't play either shadow or dragon, prepare to get double-teamed by them.
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>>174491892
Sure, but I want a ladderable deck I could play now and if I like it I'll upgrade into it more.

I know it's an expensive deck but I already have a very playable bloodcraft, shadowcraft, Runecraft, swordcraft, and now I want a playable dragoncraft.
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>>174491765
yea, honestly if you look at the crystal prices, 100 packs is $80, which, if you think about it, doesn't even guarantee you'll get anything you need or want and could have been spent buying a full-length game or two depending if you buy a new or old game

It's impossible to rationalize buying crystals if you compare it to anything tangible you can buy with the same amount of money
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What are some unrefined deck types or those with reported negative rates, but your build has been performing well or at least far above the average reported statistics?

I remember pure Snek Vengence having a 44% rate reported early on or something and people stopped trying, and now I can't find a statistic for it outside of general Vengeance Bloodcraft. But I find that it's actually quite viable and climbing in Masters just as well as my dragon Decks
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>>174491997
It's almost like this wasn't the exact same case as in Rise of Bahamut, except with Roach and Daria instead
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>>174491468
Hearthstone is definitely in a healthier state than SV right now. It's actually more balanced than it's been in years with nearly every hero having a competitive t1 deck. That might change as people figure out the expansion, but it's honestly really good right now.

But if you haven't been playing HS for awhile it'll probably be difficult to catch up with the relevant cards.
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>>174491794
she's telling the elf to go fuck itself
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>>174491991
>My super secret special deck beats the two T1 meta cancers. No one else has figured it out yet but you gotta believe me!!!1
Okay.
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>you'll never get tag teamed by Luna and Forte
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>>174491991
>making the deck slower with worse survivability adds 20% winrate to shadow matchup
Come again. Did you play more than 10 games with this deck before judging a matchup?
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>Tfw you verse dragon players who hold onto their evolves when versing an aggro deck
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>>174492101
Neither roach or daria were as stupid as shadow is now and dragon does as good a job of bullying away complete archetypes as daria did.
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>>174492182
You say that like saha-luci didn't fly under the radar for a long time.
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>>174492101
Because it wasn't.
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>>174492101
To be fair the end of RoB was good after Roach and Daria got nerfed. Before then everyone was complaining about them, although it's arguably worse now since Shadow is actually more oppressive than Daria and Roach.

Daria's winrates were good, but tempered by not highrolling. Roach I think broke 60% average wins at one point, but still had clear counters (Sun Haven). Shadow just has way too many fucking tools right now and its naturally low curve means it doesn't depend nearly as much on highrolling as Daria and is able to outpace control decks with tons of board refill.

It's really telling that Shadow's only 'bad' matchup right now is Dragon, the other T1 deck.
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>>174492192
Can you post that Forte mama comic?
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>>174492234
>Trying to hold onto my evo because haven will be able to crush my board constantly then win
>Lose by 1
It hurts to live
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>>174492247
It's not like the winrate data was lost in the ether, I'm confused why people don't acknowledge how crazy Shadow is looking right now. If people want a real shock they should go back and look at what forest's winrates were when Cygames decided to nerf homecoming. Purgatory looks fucking mild compared to shadow right now.
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>>174492270
Saha-Luci was a tournament killer deck. It preyed on the meta at the time. As soon as Daria got nerfed and other faster classes were brought back, Ramp Dragon's winrates plummeted.

Call me in a few weeks if your mastema meme catches on and becomes the accepted T1 counter.
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I fucking love and hate grimnir
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>>174492182
You are exactly the kind of retarded subhuman that can only look at numbers and think he knows everything about the game.
You are the kind of worthless garbage that is too scared to try out new things just because the numbers don't support it, your shitty numbers and retarded statistics are literally deciding your actions for you, talk about pathetic.
If you are in so much doubt, why not try it out yourself and see the results?
After all it is a dirt cheap deck, or are you scared to play a non meta deck, you filthy statwhore? Otherwise kill yourself rather than trash talk here.
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>>174492101
Even pre-nerf RoB wasn't this bad. Roach took a long time to refine and meta shifted a lot over the first month. TotG meta was solved in like 5 days, midshadow winrate immediately settled at 60%.
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>>174492378
Pretty sure one of our polls in January showed that 99% of this general is full of shadow players so it makes sense why everyone keeps claiming it's balanced.

>Just tech ward haven or midrange blood against it bro xDD

Also out of curiosity what was PtP's winrates? I remember it feeling pretty oppressive, but then again DShift also farmed it for free so it couldn't have been nearly as bad as shadow, which has no known counters.
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anyone got a good froge list?
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>>174492270
Sahaluci was shit. It existed because of its good Daria matchup like CBlood. I think it had a 45% win rate in Masters.
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>>174492218
I have about 100 games with this deck already and I'm beating high score master ranked players with it. I do have the experience to say what it can do and what it can't do, it is a very solid deck, especially if you go first.
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>>174492417
Not him, but I run literally the same deck except without Mastema and I have about a 43% winrate against mid-shadow and that's on a good day.

Mastema probably helps with the dragon match-up, but I'm not convinced enough to bother playing anymore than I have to these days for dailies.
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Daily concede please
69334
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>>174492417
Post your MP for this season senpai :^)
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>>174492101
Luckily we'll know if shadow will get nerf next month as top master rewards come out. If its as cancerous as daria, i would expect shadow occupying a third of ladder and the RAGE qualifiers to be like famitsu
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>>174492347
at least you tried anon
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>>174492462
>5 days
Try two days. It was figured out fucking instantly.

I know we all give the cuck Ben Brode shit for forcing deck archetypes, but Cygames have proven to be much more obnoxious in this regard.
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>>174492612
>except without Mastema
There is your problem
A turn 5 mastema can ravage the ass of even shadowniggers
Also you need to tech in hungering horde for those skeletons and zombie walls
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>>174492653
Thank you little vampire
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>>174492270
You say that like Saha-Luci didn't exist solely to prey on Daria and the control archetypes it forced and that once Daria was removed from the picture ramp dragon fell down to 45% winrate.

>>174492672
The thought of having to wait until the end of the animated neutral season for nerfs makes me vomit.
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what would you do?
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>>174492612
>Don't run the lynchpin
>Deck under-performs
Dunno how we're gonna solve this mystery
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>>174492670
I just entered master with this deck nigger, doesn't deflect my point that I can easily beat 30k and above scored masters with it, despite my 3 digit score.
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>>174492720
If you guys really think /HS/ is in a better state, then just go the fuck over there. I'll stay here where I'm actually having fun.
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>>174492750
>A turn 5 mastema can ravage the ass of even shadowniggers
A turn 5 that kills nothing when shadow is winning games by turn 6?

lmao what is this c0?
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>>174492417
That's it, that's the last fucking drop, I'm out of here for good. This worthless shit dank hole that is /svg/ isn't worth my fucking time anyway. I did not come here with the intention to shitpost or complain about the meta or whatsoever, but it seems people can't fucking deal with an opinion. But who the fuck am I kidding I have not ever seen someone on here who doesn't go full retard or spend all their time shitposting. Every fucking day in the half year that I have been here have has every fucking day been repost day, with the occasional memes and trends that effortlessly overthrow the god damn faggotry that has infested that cursed fucking place. You are no better than /dng/, you are no better than /hsg/ and I bet even /gwt/ laughs at you pieces of shit. Everyone is fucking denying that they're a bunch of circlejerkers, but I am seeing the same fucking pattern, uninterrupted, seamlessly every fucking week without the slightest bit of change. And if there is a god damned baitpost, how about you don't fucking feed the god damn troll, don't play their stupid fucking games. Holy fuck, I am so fucking sick of this fucking thread, all of you, kill your fucking selves. You are intellectually, emotionally and socially incapable to argue over anything, you are a fucking waste of time and space and if I could I would gas you all fucking Hitler style. FUCK YOU AND THIS RETARDED ABYSMAL HELLHOLE.
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>>174492720
Not really, Dragon dominated the ladder for the first week. Midshadow only gained steam after the second week, just like Roach. Also IIRC, lists for Roach OTK had been posted since the second day or so.
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>>174492514
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/38/4/11 Shadowlog was only just starting to kick off so this is the only report before the nerf with any reasonable amount of players. The overall matches are low so matchups are going to be wrong. We do however know what forest's aggregate wins were thanks to Cygames sharing that info in a blog post and it was very close to what was reported.
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>>174492101
RoB had roach (combo) tier 1, daria (aggro) tier 1.5, and anti daria decks (control) tier 2
ToG has shadow (aggro) tier 1, dragon (control) tier 1.5, and anti dragon decks (combo) tier 2
This is an inherently unstable paradigm. Historically shadowverse has prospered and hearthstone has suffered for the same reason, in a game like this you need a healthy niche for combo. Otherwise the meta collapses. Tempest meta is the farthest shadowverse has been from that, suicide blood is degenerated aggro and forest is degenerated control even if their matchup spread maps onto combo, so naturally it's a bad meta to be in
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>>174492881
Who said HS is better? I'm just saying Cygames is doing the exact same dumb shit Blizzard does on a regular basis. I'm starting to think the "MTG Pros" thing was a meme.

Stay triggered, fag.
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>>174492881
t. Shadownigger
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>>174492910
Nice blogpost
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>>174492910
saved, thanks
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>>174492417
>>174492910
Jesus Christ
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I was having a nice day until this dshift nigger had to come a ruin it. We need to get rid of these fuckers once and for all.
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>>174492967
Definitely not. I don't know what hell hole rank you're at, but by day 4 half of my games were against aggro and then later mid-shadow. You are correct that Dragon's playrates have somewhat dropped out.

>Also IIRC, lists for Roach OTK had been posted since the second day or so.
I don't remember this, but it certainly didn't become popular until about a month in. Everyone was riding the Daria gravy train for a long time.
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>>174492910
i'm a newfag are all ccg players like this
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>>174492910
Good pasta
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>>174492881
Most people here either play both or can't afford to keep up with HS.

The comparisons keep coming because prior to JTU HS was in a VERY similar state to SV where any deck that wasn't Pirates/Jade was fodder for the rest of the ladder.
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>>174493118

Yes, ccg is inherently flawed because the devs are fucking idiots no matter where you go. So frustration builds up and manifests itself in the ccg player's actions.
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>>174492907
Shadow cannot kill midrange mastema by turn 6, because you play control early game to prepare for Mastema.
And once Mastema comes out on turn 5, it is an immediate threat that they have to deal with, if they ignore it, you can just curve into an imp lancer and hit face for massive damage and they die.
I would say that as long as the Mastema player goes first, he has a very high chance of winning against Shadow.
>lmao what is this c0?
I been playing this deck since AA3 and I'm Master now at the moment, so no.
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>>174492881
If you look past the RNG, HS really is in a better state. If you don't play HS then a comparison is that it's currently in its DE phase right now - tons of decks are viable with a diverse a meta.
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The only worthless garbages in here are the spoonfeed avatarfags which nobody seems to complain about anymore because you're all a bunch of Discord ass licker shitters.
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>>174493236
>says the guy who still plays it anyway
If you don't enjoy card games go find another hobby.
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>>174492910
baka desu senpai
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>>174493271
>Playing control early game in a non-control deck
Good one.

>And once Mastema comes out on turn 5,
And does nothing, they just keep going face and you die because you're going to be forced to trade with a do-nothing turn 5.

But hey, you just made into the gutter ranks of master. Come back once you stop playing against bandwagoners and memers and let me know your winrate (10k~ points)
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>>174493271
>Shadow cannot kill midrange mastema by turn 6
What is the shadow playing on turn 4/5 for them to not be able to kill a turn 5 do nothing?
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>>174493281
>meta where two classes dominated tier 1
>better state
Brode please go shill somewhere else. Stop giving me shitty quests that takes thrice the effort to pull off.
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>>174493347

I've put up with YGO. This meta is doesn't hit my limit in regard to how much bullshit I can take before I quit. RoB was pretty bad for me.
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>>174492967
>IIRC, lists for Roach OTK had been posted since the second day or so.
SahaLucifer also had lists on day 2, individual lists don't mean much compared to whether or not people adopt the deck
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>Playing disco against a hag
>Pukkun doesn't die immediately
>Keeps eating muh zell's so I don't have any to gank the hag later after the t6 themis
>t6 themis
>Need to hail mary for my last forte
>Third zell topdek while I still have 2 angel crushers
>Go in for the satan since I can hit with most stuff if needed
>Hag multi-wards, kills satan, and heals out of gank range
>Silent rider, oracle another silent rider and they olivia
>Topdeck silent rider and kill their last ward for all fucking nothing it's useful for
>They death sentence and heal while popping it. Now out of storm servant range
>Topdeck servant but they got to 16 health
>They odin evo my zell and servant then drop a heavenly hound to cuck me
>Topdeck dis's damnation for lethal
Ffffuuuck.
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>>174493512
DE had five T1 decks.

Is your Alzheimer's setting in already?
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>>174493281
Nice try but pirate warrior was even worse than shadow, hitting up to 66% winrate.
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>>174493512
>>meta where two classes dominated tier 1
The only reason that isn't true in SV is that shadow is tier 0.
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>>174493451
>a turn 5 do nothing
It's funny because she's actually a turn 5 do nothing, she can't even trade unless it's a ward.
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>>174493589
>DE had five T1 decks.
That literally shouldn't be possible with a sane definition of T1
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>>174471059
>>174470774
en management in these types of games is just trying to do their pr job

they most likely have fuck all say in balance and update schedule, and are mostly just relaying what is given to them from jp

don't be a dick
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>>174493118
By its very nature, ccg deck balance is fucking bullshit in order to create headroom for card design which creates a terrible experience for the player that is self-aware enough to know how faggoty his deck is and for those victimized by it. Only autists are stupid enough to stick around leaving you dipping your toes in a cesspool of autists
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>>174493589
What were they again? I only recall
Sprint Haven
Tempo Forest
DShift
Mid Sword

>>174493623
He's talking about current HS expansion.
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>>174493589
>Five T1 decks
Why don't you list them out?

>>174493630
Tier 0 implies it's a literally unwinnable. That's a false claim.
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>>174493271
Honest question, do you ever ever mastema on her drop to protect her at the risk of a DoD?
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>>174493331
Literally whom?
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>>174493512
>Stop giving me shitty quests that takes thrice the effort to pull off.
This stops me from getting back into HS more than anything else.
>Play 20 taunt minions
>Play 50 rogue cards
>Play 20 minions that cost 5 or more
You either have to build retarded meme decks and just not play the game while you grind these out or you need to set aside several hours to finish dailies. I could very easily get back into HS and still have plenty of dust left over but that's a big impediment.
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>>174493720
Said the autistic faggot who's still playing
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>>174493751
Tier 0 should be "positive against all other meta decks". That's midshadow right now.
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>>174493442
>Playing control early game in a non-control deck
Mastema deck is midrange, so it can perform both aggro and control functions as the situation arises.
It has plenty of cards to deal with early aggression in the form of Hungering Horde, Wardrobre Raider and Night Horde.
>And does nothing, they just keep going face
It never works out for them because I have been crippling their board since the beginning and Mastema and Imp followup quickly eclipses their damage potential and they will be forced to trade.
> because you're going to be forced to trade with a do-nothing turn 5.
You can't trade with Mastema, it can only attack face and ward.

>Come back once you stop playing against bandwagoners and memers
Bandwagonners use tier 1 decks, so what is your complaint. These decks literally autopilot themselves, so its not like it would matter if they are bandwagonners or not. And literally nobody memes here, unfortunately.
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>>174493589
And three of them were Storm Haven, Seraph Haven, and Elana Seraph Haven. Shadow was literally unplayable thanks to that.
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>>174471627
Vialing leads to chasing your tail. Just arena for vials
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>>174493751
Forest before harvest festival nerf was widely considered Tier 0. It had similar (if possibly lower) win rates than mid shadow does right now.
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pepesword without tutor is pretty good for dailies. just concede if you dont draw pepe for fast dailies
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>>174493747
You're actually forgetting about Elana Haven? That deck caused so much butthurt here.

Also midsword only came into the meta towards the end of DE, so it might be more accurate to say it was 4 T1 decks.
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>>174493917
Are you seriously implying that dumpster masters is the same? I can maintain score here with a frog deck and neutralcraft for dailies.
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>>174493814
I don't understand the question?
Please rephrase it.
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I'm sorry Luna
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>>174493918
>OY VEY REMEMBA DA BANISHCAUST
kys shadownigger
>>
>wake up in the morning
>1 or 2 shitposts in thread
>euros say it's my fault the threads are bad
>wake up in the middle of the night during euro hours
>thread completely in flames
really makes you think
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>>174493917
At the end of the day, you're in AAA/meme masters.

Actually see how far you can get with that deck because only the best decks can consistently grind past 10k points.

I would pity you, but you're an asshole so have fun with all the shadows you'll be seeing.
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>>174493942
What if you're not a neet and don't have time to grind T2 6 hours a day?
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>>174494056
I seriously do not get what would be any different.
These games do not have a high skillcap at all.
Once you seen a shadow deck, you have seen all of them. All of them are run the same, until the meta changes or some high ranked player drops a better variation anyway.
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>>174471951
Regular ambush royal is also close to being a real deck. It just needs a little more to nudge it forward and the meta
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>>174494116
>>174493918
Reminder that blood in standard was even worse than DE Shadow and is still yet to receive a tier 1 deck or a deck that can play the game beyond turn 7.
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>>174493820
Can't you see by scrolling up a bit? 3 well known cancers went through making it easier to identify themselves for free shitposting personal army replies. **Talk about** ironic posters.
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>>174494213
>I seriously do not get what would be any different.
That's why you never made it out of meme masters. Talk is worthless. Get 10k points and come back and post your winrates with that deck. We'll be waiting. Until then, you're convincing no one.
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>>174471920
Wallet dragon can't stop the spocker, the rocker, the showstopper
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>>174494176
>euro hours
It's like 7:30 in germany, what kind of 4chan posters are active at 7AM
This shitfest is entirely the fault of west coast USians and maybe some breadbasket night owls
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>>174494097
turn 4 atomy in rob:
>gets cut down by dragon slayer
turn 4 atomy in tempest:
>literally bahamuted to death
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>>174494097
>10PP while the opponent has 5PP
>even had time to drop 5PP do nothing at some point
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>>174494189
Gonna have to wait for May then.
I'm not going to play enough to grind 10k under the 10 days left in this month.
>>174494345
>That's why you never made it out of meme masters.
Never made it out. Nigger I literally just got in here today, cut me some slack.
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>>174494334
Seek help.
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>>174494097
>forte squirting all over luna
hot
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>>174494486
Nah, I can see you Discord. Parrot and casuals are little to describe you shitters.
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>>174493751
>Why don't you list them out?
Bird Haven
Heal Haven
DCuck
Cancer Forest
Cancer Sword

That was easy~
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>>174494570
Why are they even here if they are on discord?
I don't see the point
>>
did I miss the new thread
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>>174492910
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>>174494579
>Dshift being t1
>2 hagcraft
>ungacraft
>forestfucker

Very diverse. Totally remembered the unstoppable soccermom curve and PTP out of their asses.
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>>174494579
Now we have Ramp Dragon, Aggro Shadow, Midrange Shadow. If the dev didn't fuck up with buffing Blood, we would have 4.
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>>174494390
I curved perfectly with Oracle, Aiela and Fervor while she dropped deadmoons and catacombs on an empty board
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>>174494693
That's evil, Discord. I shall liberate you baka
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>>174494693
Don't talk to autistic people, anon.
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>>174494804
Literal cancer curve and it happens way too often
>>174494778
I don't think Aggro Shadow is tier 1 category, only Mid is strong
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>>174492910
well meme'd sir
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>>174494871
>>174494871
>>174494871
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>>174474509
No. Pukkun must be stopped at all costs

>>174473560
>Try to play a battle nun-craft feat. laelia
>It's hard obsoleted
Misery

>>174474627
Build your deck well, mulligan well, honor RNGesus in your heart
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>>174494874
>anon
Good joke. Go suck some Mod's dick if there is even any at this point.
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>>174494883
Aggro Shadow still has a 55% WR, it's actually more T1 than Dragon.
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Any tips for this tempo forest deck?
Any bronze or silvers that would help?
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>>174483480
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>174486591
3 Oroboros
2 Sybil
1 Israfil
2 Zeus
1 Ginger
1 Minthe
3 Echtar
2 Roland
1 Gawain
2 Dark Jeanne
1 Maelstrom
2 Belphegor
2 Elf Queen
1 Anomaly
Only missing Hulking Giant and Aegis. Gotta catch them all.
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>>174491085
got a link to the dick?
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