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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR
FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/
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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1
Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs
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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
Previous Thread:
>>168872228 →
pierce rune is fucking retarded
First for Levi needs a nerf
1st for alternate leader skins
Nice job adding the match tracker to the op
Actual last thread, OP dun goofed
>>168900668
REMOVE KHAWY
Convince me that going first isn't an inherent disadvantage for everyone but two aggro decks and some obscure shit in mirror matchups that no one plays.
GAME TRACKER
https://github.com/sleeplessghost/ShadowverseTracker
add to copypasta pls
>>168924623
I already did. What's stopping you?
>>168924603
Idol skins when?
>>168924696
It's also advantageous to ramp dragon.
Khway is a problematic card
>>168924696
I prefer going first as Nep
>Friend calling me bad because I cant climb
>Switch to Daria from Sword, immediately rise trough ranks, to B
>Realize that the class was holding me back
>Jelly friend calls me a shitter for playing Daria while himself cant climb for shit like the baddie he is
Damn, I wasnt expecting this, I the deck was really holding me back, Im surprised that people look down on a hard to pilot deck though
>>168924696
>and some obscure shit in mirror matchups that no one plays
any deck with a lategame wincon wants to go first against their mirrors, i.e any deck with satan, seraph and mordecai, which are all very popular
you'll want to go first AGAINST aggro decks to slow them down as well
I did it! I won!
Sleepless, if you're here, try this.
I use this to fetch specific tickets from my database in order to avoid doing pointless foreach loops that will slow everything down.
I can't compile your code right now, so I can't prove if it works, but this should work without issue.
>>168924938
nice bait kiddo
>>168925083
Threadly reminder that
dub>sub
>>168925083
Nice job!
>>168924696
Going second is only bad for decks that heavily take advantage of evolve effects i.e sword in general, OTK forest, Daria, etc.
>>168924469
DELETE THIS! YOU FUCKING NUMPTY!!
>>168924938
If you're gonna use cancer to climb, at least go all the way.
>>168925092
meant for >>168924762
I need sleep
>>168925145
Fucks old roaches for wins.
>>168925278
*going first
>>168925145
>Lesbian and Roachsexual
>Pure
>>168923621
>Dragon
>Meiling
How come 2hu has little girls for every single eastern mythological thing but has not a single dragon girl?
>>168925092
thx m80 will try
>>168925365
Roach is a thinking man's deck though. Brainlets play Daria.
>>168925495
dunno why I said meiling, as you said, there are no dragon girls, at least not that I know of
just the first thing that came to mind
>>168924779
/OURGUY/
>>168925776
I dont understand why you post this every thread
Is it supposed to be funny?
>>168925495
No idea, even a dog girl became a MAGA mascot but no dragons
Who the fuck thought Seraph was a good card design?
>>168925530
Roach and Daria require the same amount of skill. Once you play roach for an hour you should know how much damage you have simply by looking at the hand unless you failed 8th grade math.
Need a concede
81563
Play Havencraft.
Anything happened in the last 3 dayz?
>>168926036
If i'm 7th grade?
>>168926183
No.
>>168926225
Write down how much the bounce combos do on a post it note so you don't forget.
>>168926056
wtf I love Erika now
>>168925962
>people complain about the second worst craft wr in the Vanilla,DE and RoB
Seraph need buffs desu
>>168926056
Thanks vampy!
>>168925962
me last game when I btfo'd a dirtshitter
>>168926325
SV need to be a comedi show/echii just for the fanservice and memes.
>>168926183
But I already do.
who is the empress and what do her feet look like? asking for a friend
Name your favorite deck archtype
Mine is wildfabg OTK
>>168926580
Aggro blood
>>168926329
Why is Haven so low? You'd think they have everything they need to succeed.
>>168925092
>>168925367
from my tests it looks like foreach is faster, I'm guessing because it only loops to the first result but where checks entire list for matching results
goodnight senpai
>>168926523
Keep praying.
>>168925962
but it is
exodia when
Forest is the root of all cancer. Prove me wrong.
Just wanted share that midsword korean deck again. New players who want to play sword should try this varient or just sword players struggling.
>>168926665
They aren't allowed to play real cards for the first three turns of the game, and their late game tools are invalid when matched against a field of 15+ burst damage turns.
>>168926761
>haha it's just a "i win" button, so fun guyz right
>>168926781
well you are likely to find many roots there
>>168926665
Is easy to counter.
Really just aggro/pressure late game and odin
>brick by drawing 3 Darias
>Lose
You just gotta believe, senpai
https://my.mixtape.moe/pvbwwr.webm
>>168926916
>just aggro bro
>when they have the best wards and insane amounts of heals
>>168926579
http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Empress_of_the_Night
>>168926686
Where should stop after the first result.
Well whatever, it should only really matter when you're doing multiple ifs to check whether the result is correct instead of just fetching the id.
I'm still thinking if pic related is right, you'd also need to add a check if the return is a null which means that there weren't any matches.
Anyway, good night. Fix this fucking method jesus that many ifs are painful to look at.
>>168926665
>Why is Haven so low?
Daria's flood is too overwhelming while Roach is a combo deck that doesn't care about their removal too much. Saha Ramp runs Odins.
>>168926579
queen vampire, i guess
>>168925827
I really like Levi and he's an essential part of the most popular craft this meta
>>168927063
JUST THEMIS BRO
Is daria really better without fates hand and flame destroyers? It seemed like I won more often with them.
>>168927063
>Haven has trouble with Daria
Now that's bullshit
Am i playing this deck correctly?
>>168926665
Its not that Haven is lacking anything, the meta is just to fast for it.
>Dragon Ramps before seraph drops
>Sword is either even or you actually win, depends on who goes first.
>Forest kills you by 8, sun/satan is less reliable to wolf bolt
>Shadow aggro is prob even control is heavily dependent on luck but seraph most likely wins with seraph, satan/sun prob loses hard to to neph shadow.
>Rune Daria vomits followers to quickly that even if you clear them out your at lethal range anyway. D shift just shits on you
Mostly an uphill battle as a haven player.
Nephthys Reaper looks good
>1 PP deal 4 damage
> 3 PP 2/3 Reduce the cost your hand by 2
>2 PP 4/4 Deal 3 damage spellboost your hand
>0 PP 5/5 Draw 5 cards and spellboost them 5 times
>>168927143
>>168927209
Flame Destroyer is just a 2pp winmoar brick.
Fate's Hand is perfectly usable, not that a lot of people would admit it.
>>168927290
>Dshift player jerking off playing solitaire instead of just ending things
That's how everyone else plays the deck I guess.
>>168927047
obama's first program
>>168923621
ghost - rumia
forest - cirno
>>168927290
>playing all spells instead of killing them
ur doing great
>>168927290
>A neph on board with no morde
D0?
>>168925776
The fuck is he saying?
>Havenfags jerking off calling themselves the chemo for daria
>they get called out
>H-Haven has a hard time dealing w-with it too haha
Why are Havencucks so pathetic
>>168927739
ching chong ding dong
>>168927698
he had 2 minions from his death breath from last round to try survive, so he whiffed his morde. Not that it woulda mattered
>>168927739
Nipponese
>>168927432
Fate's hand can be a little bricky but I prefer it over going all in on daria. Flame destroyer can definitely end game though. I will give it a try.
>>168927778
Is there even a class /svg/can agree on being modest?
>playing Arisa's story
>final boss
>turn four 10/10
Why did I ever complain about the other story modes?
>>168927290
kys dubcuck
>>168927997
Blood
>>168927997
dragon of course
>>168927739
>in his dying words
>tell...is..a..belle.. shh..e..has...ni.cc.e....tittssss.....
>*dies*
>>168927997
blood? having a 30% winrate probably helps tho
>>168928090
?????????????
>>168928020
atomy is top memesjust DoD him
friendly reminder to kill yourself if you play daria
>>168927739
>At last I see..
>Endings like this o-...
>>168927793
>>168927906
fucking ignorant fucks
gain some culture swine
>>168928135
>everyone who tried to get close to those titties dies
>>168928226
fuck off gookcuck
>>168928146
you heard me
>>168928020
It's fair enough considering the deck is entirely 1/1 tokens that don't do anything otherwise.
>>168928304
i don't understand
>>168928020
blood's final boss is the hardest since the basic deck they give you focuses on vengeance a lot and erica just zergs you down
>>168928226
See "UNITED" states, we've already imported culture from all over the world.
>>168927047
.Where gets all matching elements and .First gets first element, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use .Where in getGameList
>tfw you turn 6 Bahamut
>>168928375
kys (kill yourself) dubcuck (you)
>>168928445
I had the hardest time with Dragon's although that's because I was actually trying to use overflow cards.
>>168928564
>tfw tribunal
>>168928552
You're right.
Guess they both have their own uses. You learn something everyday.
>>168928586
why me?
>>168928564
>tfw you have a Tribunal of Good and Evil on the field so lord of cucks cant drop a bahamut on you
What's a nep counter
>weeaboos
>>168928698
>What counters a deck that can't run Odin
I dunno dude, try discard dragon.
>>168928656
because you're a dubcuck
Haven't liquefied extras since I got my last lego. Extras alone must be like 20 packs, without mentioning that I have gotten cards that weren't extras and I needed.
Can I kill myself now?
>>168928824
fuck off >>>/pol/
>>168928903
fuck off >>>/dubcuckboard/
>>168928636
thanks for suggestions anyway, I had never heard of .Where before
>>168928696
>yfw he does anyway
>>168928698
>Deck expects to go to turn 8 minimum consistently
>but it can't run Odin for consistency's sake
Really makes you think
>>168929136
the absolute madman
>tfw you win because your nut draw was nuttier
This deck is fucking bullshit
>Throw out a few minions
>Throw out my first dshift
>He doesnt know if i got another Dshift for lethal
>Pretend i dont have it by emoting and baiting him into thinking im bluffing
>He gets cocky and emotes back
>Wait until timer is red
>Dshift
>He tries to do DC bug but fails
>mfw
>>168929278
>opponent has fate's hand
nice meme
>>168928824
i'm not even the guy you originally quoted
What if rune legit didn't fucking exist? Wouldn't the game be better? Dshift and Daria are the most cancerous decks in the game and easily make up 50% of my matches nowadays.
I don't understand. Is this a brick or not?
>>168929536
>play hard counter
>get 50% winrate for free
>>168929708
That's not a bad idea. What counters both daria and dshift reliably? I have 800 vials but I could save up.
>>168929536
then people would complain about forest
then haven
>>168929682
>cant win in a single turn = brick
just use one of the roaches to chip u dumb fuk you dont need all 3 to win
http://imgur.com/a/9H2kJ
Can anyone tell me which are absolutely shit cards not used in any deck that I can safely liquify?
>>168929536
no but spellboost does need to be reevaluated. cost reduction is the most broken mechanic in card games.
33780
Please concede or let me win if you need private matches
>>168929682
why are all forestfags so fucking dumb?
>>168930057
Aren't there MtG veterans running this shit? How did they not see mana discounts and potentially 15 card milling in a single archetype as broken? Card draw is always a top tier mechanic.
>>168929801
>What deck can survive turn 4-6 boardfloods but win before turn 9
>>168930057
>made a cheap daria deck with only 2 darias and levi
>winrate skyrocket anyway
>usually shit out at least 3 0 cost followers
I dont want to know how many bad players this deck carried to ranks they dont belong to.including me if I continue to play it
>>168929682
It is if it doesn't draw into any bounce.
>>168930226
It bricked though. He seraphed next turn despite my efforts.
47408
need a concede
>5 games in a row my initial draw was so bad that it lost me the game
Just fucking stop there are like five t5 cards in my deck and 20 t1 and t2 cards.
>>168930373
It "bricked" because you're playing the slower version with Tia that's designed to be more anti aggro and have a better chance against control sword.
>>168929801aggro shadow
>>168930373
>he doesn't run odin on every deck
LMAO
>>168929801
roach
>>168930341
just farm them scores
>>168930957
>93 in a craft
>still not rank A
I really hope you do an obscene amount of ranked games on Runecraft and not that you winrate is actually that shit
>>168931029
I started 4 days ago, literally only played Daria.
>>168931029
obscene amount of unranked games*
>>168931071
>4 days ago
>lvl 93 in a craft
what.
are you playing 18 hours a day?
>Pulled a Daria from my rupee pack
>Already had a playset that I had to craft from vials
>Get a score reward ticket for a standard pack
>Pull a Saber that I also crafted a playset of in the past
I want out
>>168931242
wait for the imminent Daria nerf in a month with new expac and collect your free 3500 vials
>>168931179
I worked 2 days but apart from that yeah mostly I only played this.
are these prebuilt decks any good for beginners?
>>168931335
I already dusted her
I was showing my brother the game at the time so I had to include the crafting system :(
If the nerfs are bad enough I can always just dust the other 3 so its not a huge deal.Not that I play anything besides rune
>fighting daria
>finally land a ward+unica when he's out of piercing runes
>fucking bahamut
lolok that's enough sv for today.
>aggro blood in A0 trials
Thank you, Urias.
>>168931649
>introducing a kid to degenerate games
shit nigga what are you doing?
>>168930929
Daria has a positive winrate against Roach according to Shadowlog. In my experience that has been pretty much accurate.
>>168931759
>Kid
He's 28but he's spending all his money on MTGO so I'm trying to help him
>>168931482
What do you work as? I always find the thought hilarious (in a good way) to get in contact with someone who has a somewhat good job who autistically grinds in games in his freetime.
>>168931938
mtg is a better investment though because their cards have resell value and they actualy host tournaments with cash prizes if you git gud. Lots of locals even give store credit if you top.
>>168931881
roach can take games away from any deck, the same way daria can. whoever gets the better draw wins.
if roach gets a 4/5 ancient elf early they win. if daria draws into daria, they win.
>>168932151
but you have to go outside and talk to people
>people hate on a helpless innocent 1/1 insect
>when the real culprit is a midget goblin cunt
when will blood be t1 again?
>>168932249
>elf t1 since the game released
>must be this new cards fault
Further proof that only retards play elf.
>>168932249
but roach would literally be completely unchanged if goblin mage didnt exist
it would just be less consistent to draw
nothing about its potency changes
>>168932349
the first week of the next expansion
>>168932249
Gob isn't cancer in any deck but roach because, hint hint, roach is the OP one
Daria
>discard the cards in your hand
>draw the same number of cards you discarded and spellboost them 5 times
That's actually literally all you have to do to balance Daria.
>>168932151
He needs to take a break. He's not even playing constructed tournaments or anything. Just drafting all day every day.
>>168932249
Roach was responsible for a lot of the wins in DE as well. Half the time "ptp" elf won with roaches to the face and OP shit like Tia and AE. Now it's just faster and much more reliable because of the goblin cunt.
Just wait till shadow gets a "add card with shadow usage to your hand" card and you'll see Tyrant decks popping everywhere.
>>168932515
>Discard
NO
>>168932141
No him but, The job I have I can play all I want and get paid for it. And not even like a under the table thing, my boss has repeatedly seen me play or browse 4chan on the computer and said nothing about it, because what I'm supposed to do, I usually do it fast and early leaving a lot of time after.
HOW DOES IT FEEL UNGASHITTER?
This game is really boring these days. It's boring to play against forest, it's boring to play against rune, it's boring to play against the occasional haven. And I don't run into any other crafts.
Literally just logging in daily to dailies and dreading it every single time.
>>168932349
Whenever vengeance system stops sucking.
>>168932438
Don't forget that a 0 gobu mage is one more damage and a guaranteed roach which let's you play even more roaches which multiplies the overall damage. I guess you can blame Feena cunt for all of this.
>>168932826
>roachtard talking shit about the worst craft
>>168932826
Die forest shitter.
You deserve to live less than unga people.
>>168932948
>feena is only strong because of the goblin mage it gives you
further proof this card is to blame?
>>168933136
she could give you any fucking 0 point follower and itd be the same
Let's say I'm willing to buy one of the prebuilt decks three times in order to get the legendaries/rares. What should I be aiming for as far as rerolling is concerned to maximize my start?
>>168932141
Nothing special just a standard office job. Actually I haven't played any games in a few months, dedicated most of my time to literature and other related thins.
I expect I will spend far less time after the initial enthusiasm, right now I'm enjoying exploring and learning the cards.
>>168933251
yeah who needs a tutor that draws and boosts the core of your retarded combo right? just make her a worse EPM
>>168933136
Th biggest problems with all of this is that elf run 3 roach, 3 goblin and 3 Feena which is like running 9 roaches essentially, with 3 of them being a 2/1 roach. There is no fucking way you are NOT going to draw a roach in some way throughout the game.
It's just insane desu.
>>168933381
>yeah who needs a tutor that draws and boosts the core of your retarded combo right?
no one
as I said, roach already works just fine without goblin mage
goblin mage helps make it more consistent
>>168933260
Good cards.
REMINDER THAT VAMPY CHAN IS A LITERAL SLUT
the struggle
>>168933554
DELET THIS
>>168933502
yeah and the unmatched consitency is the reason the deck is retarded
>>168933251
>>168933502
>she could give you any fucking 0 point follower and itd be the same
No. If she gave you a 0pp Unica it would not be the fucking same as getting a 0pp Gobbu which gives you a 2/1 roach mid combo and if you bounce said Gobbu you can get another roach.
>>168933260
Neutral Legendaries such as
FROM MOST IMPORTANT TO SPECIFIC DECK COMBOS:
>Odin
>Bahamut
>Satan
>Lucifer
>Sahaquiel
Good golds
>Urd
>Uriel
The rest is class specific.
Has there ever been anything in Shadowverse or Hearthstone as miserable as trying to deal with Forest in this meta? There is truly zero interaction. There is nothing you can do to stop their gameplan. Unlike Dshift (for example), they will always have Roach because they run three of them plus six cards that are designed solely to pull them.
Wards don't do anything because they just immediately remove them with Dance of Death or Will of the Forest. Their evolve card always gets max value even if nothing is on the board. Around turn seven or so, they can do 14+ damage even if their board was empty.
Ancient Elf is still the single best follower in the entire game and many classes STILL have no real answer to it without evolving.
Im glad everyone agrees roach alone is fine, its the tutor that puts it over the top.
The absolute fucking madman
>>168932948
If they were forced to use Lionel to get a 0 cost card it'd be a huge tempo loss but Feena has such a great stat line for her effect that it's often a tempo gain for them to play her on curve.
Feena and Gobu are part of what makes the deck as strong as it is but without the ability to tutor roach they're fairly innocuous and would only really be strong in take two. Roach just needs to be moved to 3 mana, that's it. Neuter the combo, neuter the draw, leave it as an alternate win con for wolfbolt, ptp, tempo, and Rose Queen.
>>168933941
Secret Paladin
Patron Warrior
>>168933941
Just use death's breath bro :^)
>>168933578
Look what you did >>168933576
Dancing is forbidden.
Also fuck Angelic Snipe for giving me enough reach in a situation where I had no business winning.
>>168933941
Well they tried power creeping other classes with RoB to put everyone on par with the forest of fuckery, they achieved that, but the roach is always one step ahead...
>>168934193
s-sorry
>>168925962
It's fine. Compared to stuff like Roach, Bahamut, Genesis Dragon, Satan, etc.. it is actually good design for a late game card. No matter what, there is no way to win with Seraph the turn it is played. That alone makes it far more balanced and tolerable than the other combos in the game.
And I'd much rather take prepping into Seraph than going up against classes like Shadow, Dragon, and Sword that just send storm followers down your throat every turn until they win.
>>168934272
>Turn 9
Anyone deserves to win that late into the game.
>>168934281
it's all ceridwen's fault
>>168933941
Yes
The current meta is so bad it's literally driving people away.
>>168934463
The fact that Haven has to run sacred plea and tribunal keeps Seraph in line too. Both Seraph and D Shift have unreliable tutors which makes it easier to brick.
Damn....I should've drawn more wards and a themis
>>168932349
>mechanic placing yourself in lethal rage
>ever good
Make goblin mage draw either a 1 or 2 drop, there I fixed the game.
>>168934652
the fuck is this image
>>168934463
shadow has dumb 1/1 ghosts that don't stick for storm followers while mummy requires shadows
dunno how you can compare that to dragon and sword
soon
>>168934928
Arisa doing what she does best.
>Make Seraph deck
>Control blood, control blood, dshift, sahaluci dragon, control blood
Why.
>>168926665
Roach 18 damage from hand or 18 Bolt from hand.
>tfw japanese tryhards went to sleep
>>168934985
I should consider buying Selwyn.
I held off on it because I literally wasn't playing Forest at all, but with how things have been lately... wew lad I'm gonna get sick of Arisa.
>>168934985
>getting carried by cancer mage
gross
which girl is the most cute and pure
>>168927290
>Not Magic Missile at face, Magic Missile at face, Piercing Rune for lethal
Disappointed
>>168934928
>>168935007
Bounce, and Bounce.
>>168934970
Sword is really fucking good, people are just to worried about Daria/Roach to notice. I'm glad desu I hate mirrors.
>>168935290
If you do, play on jp sound because he sounds like a 12 year old in the english dub.
>>168935290
>getting sick of best elf
>>168934928
Arisa getting Roach'd.
whew!
>>168935239
It's 8:50 in the morning in there. They are at work/school and all the hikikomori are probably still sleeping.
>>168935343
So /svg/ how much money have you spent on this game?
>>168935389
How the fuck did you manage to find the one JO on the ladder?
>>168935393
I mean. I have an animated Ancient MILF that I pulled from the final 5 score reward packs last month. Arisa can hardly compete.
>>168935343
Vampy-chan
>>168935739
None
>>168935739
I bought the 1time crystal deal but that's all.
>>168935739166USDWhich I made from RMTing currency in another game I play.
>>168935786
>How the fuck did you manage to find the one JO on the ladder?
It's not common? It's the third one I've seen today.
>>168935786
Sure, soccer mom is a hottie, but she can't emote Whoa!
>>168935739
discounted single buy pack and 2 of 0.99
>>168935343
>dariafag doesn't do shit ts 1 and 2
>t3 superman
>t4 superman
>>168936249
Tech cryptonite in your deck you fucking retard
>>168936249
He had an empty board when the turn started.
>>168934614
I was excited for RoB early on, but I think it's the least fun Shadowverse has been so far. If Hearthstone wasn't so shit right now, I may have went back to it. I really enjoyed Shadowverse, but seeing cards like Albert, Bahamut, and the new RNG cards made me realize the game will only get worse with each expansion.
>>168935739
About 8$ which is 8$ more than I've ever spent on microtransactions.
>>168936495
Just ______, bro.
>>168936497
>Albert, Bahamut, and the new RNG cards
>complaining about this shit over Daria or Roach
Yeah, you should go back to /hsh/.
>>168924938
I climbed from B3 to AA0 with a shitty otomeme/sage midrange sword deck, I don't think sword is the problem anon
>>168936495
>turn 6
Must've been a great themis
>>168936716
Roach has been here since Standard, why would he complain about it now? Maybe he should complain about Goblin mage instead :^)
>>168936497
What RNG cards? The only ones I can think of are corpse, thighs and tribunal which can all be controlled more or less.
>>168936927
I think by RNG he means forcing deck RNG in shut like Daria.
As dominating as Daria can be she's also really inconsistent because the deck can easily brick.
>>168936705
Astaroth's Reckoning
Just finished my daily with my 1 roach LOL it was a shit deck put together cause I have fucking nothing for forest. Shit my characters at lvl 23 lmao....this made my day....
>>168936705
Will of the forest
Can I get a concede
65556
>>168932831
I just switch decks whenever I feel like this. Or you could just play arena.
>>168937354
>babbys first roach combo
I'm glad you're enjoying yourself but I really hope you'll get tired of this shit sooner than later.
>>168936497
Honestly, the way of "let's just powercreep shit instead of balancing it" is going to kill the game one day.
I kinda dread the thought of what kind of broken shit Cygames can print in the next expansion to overshadow the fucking bullshit that is Daria and how the game would look like after that.
>>168937416
Thanks!
>>168936927
Them being controllable isn't a good thing. It's just less stupid than a purely RNG card. It's a problem because it ends up being way too strong. Tribunal is basically a 3PP instant kill a follower, which is usually 4 - 5 pp in cost. It also kills another thing when it runs out too, potentially taking out two massive threats. It is way too good for its cost so they tack on RNG to its effect to justify it. That is awful card design. Corpse is the same thing as is cards like the dragonnewt fist.
>>168937508
It'll just continue down the path of Hearthstone. There was a time in HS where Face Hunter was actually considered at least viable, and its turn seven or eight finishers was considered fast. Now, that's slow and the modern aggro decks destroy people in a couple of turns.
It'll be like that here too. Sword finishing you off around turn seven or eight in DE was considered fast and difficult to deal with. Decks are just gonna get faster and faster. Control will never be a thing because Dragon will always be the only Control deck worth running. The rest are just combo decks, which prevent control from mattering anyway.
>>168937846
OOOOOBJECTION
>>168937503
It was unranked in AA1 vs a master D shift user I just got lucky, and was forced to play forest which I never play. Dailies can be a dick sometimes. It was enjoyable since it was the only roach in the deck and it actually won ! On top of it being a trash deck with 1 rose queen as the wincon...
>>168937613
Tribunal is 4PP, anon. Also, RNG cards aren't new.
>>168937159
Not only easily, but nerfed by cygames.
>>168937830
>Control will never be a thing
>Control is currently a thing
>Dragon will always be the only Control deck
>Ramp is Control
You are full of shit and you should stop posting.
>>168937830
Hopefully when SV inevitably introduces formats they don't make the same mistake T5 did and make the standard/basic cards evergreen.
>>168932349
>2 PP 2/2
>fanfare: reduce vengence by 1 for the rest of the game.
>>168937508
Daria is not the best deck right now. Saraluci is. You idiots are getting distracted from the real Neutral problem now.
>>168937613
Corpse can't suicide on anything other than wards and needs a trigger to do something which is a HUGE problem once you actually play it.
Tribunal is just another bullshit removal to add to an already large arsenal of bullshit removal Haven has. Don't forget stuff like Death sentence which was the original 6pp corpse+assassin combo when you couple it with some cd so tribunal isn't really anything new, it's just better in every way.
>>168938230
>Daria is not the best deck right now. Saraluci is. You idiots are getting distracted from the real Neutral problem now.
lol
need concede 80857
>>168938337
C0 so much, shitter?
>>168938230
kek
>>168938432
Have you looked at the actual winrate statistics you retard?
>>168938418
ty anon
>>168938532
>statistics
>shadowlog
What about actually playing the game, library rat?
>>168938684
>the game is unbalanced because I say so based on my biased perception, fuck the actual data
holy shit dude just kys
>>168937830
Honestly the current RoB meta has a lot of control decks being played, and the only thing stopping control decks from being a thing is Dshift still being a thing, and, well, Seraph to a lesser extent. >Dragon is control
Ok dude stop
>>168938230
Daria is absolutely disgusting to play against and is extremely popular, it killed the midrange, it killed the aggro, and it will keep killing the game until something happens, i don't fucking know what, more bullshit cards to power creep it, nerfs, standarts, whatever.
Sahaluci Dragon is, like, fine. I don't like playing against it, but it's not problematic like Roach or Daria are right now.
>>168938841
>turn 7 Saha+Lucifer
>turn 8 Saha+Lucifer / Lucifer
>turn 9 Lucifer
Literally bond to happen. Good luck until you hit AA or Master
Need a concede.
79010
>>168939087
>t7
>against Daria
Daria fucking you up by T6 is just as likely to happen as your retarded combo.
>>168939118
Thank you, Mario.
Roughly two more days. Are you ready?
>>168938982
>Sahaluci Dragon
Who the fuck is talking about Dragon, especially? Haven, Sword and Shadowbabies are running that too. It's a goddamn nightmare.
>>168939308
I want to breed Forte
>daria literally mills itself to death before you've even drawn half your deck
>>168939252
Eh, ramp can start saha>x from turn 4 so it's not that unlikely. But yeah, Dorothy is basically a slot machine in what happens in every given match with her.
>>168938982
Roach is a strong card and I can't see it being dropped from forest decks in the near future. Pure roachcraft though is a symptom of the current meta where Daria dominates. If Daria was gone and people were able to defend themselves with wards forest would have to run wolfcoming for the otk on turn 9 which is in line with other instant kill decks like dshift and seraph.
Some people are so mean.
A D-Shift got all their Flame Destroyers on the field, used up their 3 D-Shifts, and then continued to rope and finish me off afterwards.
Name a card more cancerous.You can't, but try anyway for my amusement.
>>168939252
Not anymore shithead. The odds don't allow it to happen as much often as before.
>trials begin
Until when do I have to finish them? End of month?
>>168939484
You just concede once you've confirmed they have lethal.
I've never seen a dshift just go for the kill.
>>168939484
It's common knowledge that the majority of Rune players are subhumans.
>>168939087
I went up against exactly this but then I sky KNIGHTS his health and it was GG. Dont fall for the heal meme /svg/ otherwise Blood would be tier 1.
>>168939572
Gobbu is fine
Feena into free gobbu is the real problem, and I'm even a roach player.
>>168939572
imagine if she couldn't pull roach
>>168939641
Trials are just a gate to ranking up, you can't lose points and are stuck there until you pass.
>>168939385
The other variant running Sahaluci performs average at best, since they have to play fair and cannot ramp them out by turn 5.
>>168939252
>breath of the salamander
>>168939572
the card it searches fori.e. Roach
>>168939671
>but then I sky KNIGHTS
Y-You C-Castle in the Sky?
>>168939572
Im sorry but I can't
>>168939572
Levi
Is there a better 3 drop than ancient elf in the game?
>>168939871
He's a dubcuck with Alberto
>>168940001
A Daria that has been spellboosted six times.
>>168939735
Anything that heals fucks Daria apart. The best move Daria players can make is move to Sun Satan deck.
>pass turn 1
>draw sacred plea on turn 2
>>168940110
>Anything that heals fucks Daria apart.
LMAO
M
A
O
>>168939484
Wasted time is also wasted time for the winner.
I never concede, if the other player win just finish the job. If he wants to look cool making needless evolves, moves and summons it's his own stupidity.
>>168940024
Reminds me of MtG before the legend rule change where the best counter to a Jace was your own Jace.
>Daria or Aggrobats winning turn 1 is the worst that can happen
Boy do I have some stories to tell you, my friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLv232_8sa4
>A3
>300 exp from AA trials
>eh I'll just chemo this shit
>down to 605 away after 8 games
Literally all my games were roach and daria, what the fuck? I didn't even struggle against Daria so bad until now. Should I keep going?
>>168940064
>A Daria that has been spellboosted six times
Hello /svg/, help a bro out with a concede quest please
90197
>>168940381
Thanks seiya bro!
>>168940347
Why are you playing a deck that does bad against Daria and Forest? Either play one of the two or play something that counters them. Christ dude, you're at the end of the ladder, people are trying to climb.
Is Selwyn's good or just a meme in roach?
I also need help with a private quest, 62121.
>>168940110
So if I am reading this right, you are just salty your diarrhea no longer carries you?
>>168940718
>Christ dude, you're at the end of the ladder, people are trying to climb.
All I have is aggro bats, seraph and a roach deck. I don't wanna play roach anymore.
>>168940719
It's pretty bad from my experience.
>>168939642
>>168939647
>>168940210
I don't usually concede because I've sometimes had players fuck up their BM-before-lethal royally. After he played 2 Flame Destroyers and 2 D-Shifts I thought they were done as he had to kill my Frontguard and its ward summon during it still and no more evolves.
At 18 health, I had an Odin and Fangblade in my hand and thought I could turn it around some how, but I didn't expect the third Flame Destroyer and D-Shift. I was gonna give them the finish for pulling it off, but they just went the whole mile.
just open lots of packs that have the legendary you want
good strat?
>>168940762
Done, thanks alot!
>>168940347
Play a good Chemocraft
How the fuck do I mulligan for Tempo Forest?
Just go for 1 drops? Kepp Feena or Elven Princess on starting to not get just one billion 1drops in a row?
Will TT ever not be a 'go first, lose' shitshow?
>>168941135
nice double themis BRAH
>>168939734
I know that I'm stuck there
Just wanted to know if I had to do it before month finishes
But doesn't matter now
>>168941253
keep ancient elf and one drops, sylvan depending on the mu
>>168940812
You either get lethal turn 7 and spam Bahamut, or lose to Sara combo.
>>168941290
You can win going first if you have Olivia/Satan/Baha and your opponent doesn't.
Hey fags, I'm feeling chivalrous. I've got two Alberts, but only 1 Aurelia and Tsubaki. What's a good Sword list to make?
>>168941290
Whenever they decide that first can have 3 evo points too. Until then, it's go 2nd and winI got a 5-0 once where I went first everytime, but it was a bunch of luck and not so much of skill or fairness
>>168926790
>floral fencer
Breh...
>>168941434
>bahamut or lose to saha
Speak coherent english for a change.
Need a concede please
19449
>>168941984
Banish yourself
>>168942028
thx m8
>>168941683
Stop this meme, floral fencer is still good. It is more useful than that faggot ass white general.
Please concede for me 63706
>>168942134
Floral is slow, general is 2 face damage NOW and a 3/3 body.
>takes 5 minutes to think up basic roach combo
>emotes
fuck you too
>>168942206
Thanks
>>168942346
Emotes off make for a better experience. But when they're taking forever to enact their lethal you just know they're emoting the fuck out of you.
>>168940969
I never concede to dshift either.
If he wants to play a slow a shit cheap deck he might as well watch the whole thing over and over again. Tab the game and browse something else. It's because people concede against dshift those assholes keep playing that shit in ladder. If everyone roped dshitters nobody would play that crap.
>>168942042
Watch out that damaged cells, anon.
Fuck it. I'll rope every single Nephthys player I find on ladder from now on. Khawy's "LMAO IT'S RANDOM BUT NOT REALLY" effect shit killing 9 attack Aurelias out of nowhere is way too retarded.
Rate my somewhat control sword?
(1/2)
>>168941625
What are the last two on the right? And how many of them?
>tfw you tear through three overstatted ramped up wards in a row with Aggro Bats
Midnight Vampire is the greatest waifu in this game.
This is some lazy animation, blinding ass light.
>>168942564
>1 ofs
Stop.
>>168942564
(2/2)
Somewhat special snowflake, lot of my own techs in it. I do somewhat okay vs Daria if they don't have an insane draw, but probably only sitting at 50%. Deck overly relies on Albert to finish games though.
>>168942280
I can see white knight being better in aggro but floral im mid will fuckover aggro varients and do decent vs control. Also pure aggro sword is the worst varient of sword.
>>168942538
git gud lmao
>>168942564
Heals are for shitters dont fall for the blood meme.
>>168942538
>Khawy's "LMAO IT'S RANDOM BUT NOT REALLY"
It's not random, it explicitly targets the highest attack minion.
It's only random if there are multiple minions with the same attack that is also the highest.
>>168942710
Cmon, most of my 1 ofs aren't really one ofs, just like using whatever shinies I have.
>losing trial matches because mirrors are a fucking coinflip
JUST
>>168942897
Well Unicorn has a pretty big taunt on it, which does take up a lot of removal most games, the heal doesn't come into effect 9/10 games.
>>168942564
>>168942728
Get Monikas and Jenos in there.
>>168942897
Unicas act like pseudo-wards.
Concede to me or I'll ding her dong
93415
>>168942538
>I can't read
Why are japs the saltiest?
Anybody got an earth rite deck list?
>play down frontguard general
>evolve it
>opponent concedes after evolving animation
>>168940125
>turn 1 pass
>draw 1 drop
Literally happened 5 games in a row for me
>>168943253
Everyone hates roach scum, not just the japs.
>>168943253
Exiting the game on their phone makes it quicker for them to get back to work/class. :^)
>>168943121
What should I drop for Jeno/Monika?
>>168943253
They were probably playing it on the phone and just immediately pressed the home button after they saw lethal.
>>168943160
Thanks coreabro
i was told nep was just a bad meme
F/GO collab incoming:
Royal = Artoria
Elf = Robin Hood
Dragon = Liz
Witch = Tamamo
Necromancer = Jeanne Alter
Vampire = Vlad III
Bishop = Martha
>the decks good against daria lose to otk roach
>the decks good against otk roach lose to daria
>>168943473
Unless you have really good reasons for Mentor's Teachings, Angel of the Word, and Mirage Defender - those. Maybe that lone Floral Fencer depending on how you feel about it taking an evolve point to have any value. It's just a Goliath at that point, and other cards use the evolve point better.
I've also found one Cyclone Blade to be enough.
I have to wonder what the FUCK is wrong with dragon players sometimes. I had to use 5 cards to answer a single Goblinmount, then they just decided to drop Satan and lose instead of deploying a single ward.
Stop throwing games! I wasn't meant to win this!
>>168942564
>>168942728
Too many 1-ofs. You are way too far from regular CSword, but you have almost everything you need for a standard build.
Drop Mentor's Teachings, Barrage, Angel of the Word, Mirage Defender, Avant, 1 Whole-Souled Swing (3 is too much).
Get 2-3 Maid Leaders.
For 3 drops, you want some combination of White Paladin, Novice Trooper, Blitz and Healing Angel, but not more than 8 total 3 drops (preferably 6-7) and not more than 3 different cards (preferably 2-3). Some builds play Shield Angel, so consider that as an option as well.
You want something like 4-5 4 drops. Amelia, Floral, Teena and Jeno are great options. Most builds play 2 Amelia and 2 Floral or 2 Jeno.
You want to have 3 Aurelias as CSword, but, if you don't have the vials to make them right now, Goblinmount is a decent substitute.
Most builds play 2 Tsubaki, but, since you have Odin as well, 1 should be fine.
Get a second Alwida's and a second Fangblade, they are important cards to get damage in while playing defensively/clearing threats. They are insanely useful at getting your opponent down to Albert's lethal range.
Monika is a great option as a 5 drop, but you don't want to play her alongside Florals or White Paldins, you'll end up starving too much in terms of evo points, even with Olivia.
>>168943632
>Dragon = Liz
Couldn't buy it fast enough
>>168943628
are those from famitsu cup?
link?onegai
>>168943628
Wait, so 8 players with 2 nep decks?
At least it's not a rune & forest wankfest.
>>168943628
Nep hard counters ramp and is decent against everything but haven
But none plays haven at tourney so it's a decent choice
>>168943803
https://shadowverse-famitsucup.com/result.html
>>168943763
They have only at most 6 wards, so not surprising if they didn't draw the others.
>>168942916
>>168943162
I know that Khawy always picks the highest attack follower. That's the problem I have with him. It doesn't target, it's "random" so it gets around Aurelia or any other hexproof shit.
>>168943628
What nep decks are they running? 2378?
>>168943918
>It doesn't target, it's "random" so it gets around Aurelia or any other hexproof shit.
What? The random part of his effect has nothing to do with Aurelia being untargetable.
>>168943973
Doesn't matter. They just need Mordecais and Khawy.
>>168943973
Follow the link and find out.
>>168943857
>>168943628
>>168943973
2378. Odd is that they don't have dingdong or widow for card drawing though.
>>168944057
>implying
Try to survive with 2478 in this meta, bub.
>>168943857
I expected fat hikikomori, but they all look like decent guys with jobs aside from one or two of them.
>>168941339
grats!
>>168944052
Yeah, I guess that's true. I was way too pissed when I made that initial post.
Fuck Khawy though.I am still going to rope Nep players
>>168939308
How are these going to be earned?
>>168937508
This a hundred times. You don't fight overpowered shit with overpowered shit, that's YGO levels of retarded.
>>168944265
Read the pastebin in the OP.
>>168944153
Neph 5/5 body will heal you up and drop another 5/5 immortal body, don't worry about face points.
>>168944153
>tfw I thought feathered patroller and healing angel was a meme but it was actually good
I guess i'm a huge scrub
>>168944418
Sometimes
you die before turn 8. crazy, i know
>>168943718
The game is balanced.
>>168944265
First pastebin of the OP.
>>168943973
See pic-related. It does look like a solid list except for the lack of card-drawing. Maybe I am overestimating the need for that.
>>168944418
Surviving up to turn 8? Good luck
>>168943857
Why is everyone wearing a trenchcoat?
>>168944206
I needed 425 wins total though
Making a dragon deck was a mistake
>control blood
im so glad this class is garbage because the amount of heals is fucking disgusting
>LMAO just clear the board and heal
Roach is such a disgusting fucking card, if this little shit doesn't get nerfed next expac I'm actually gonna quit this game.
>>168943857
Holy shit the samefagging in that top 8 is immense.
>>168944495
>>168944550
Necroassassin buddies?
>>168944683
It fits the theme though
>>168944683
Its winrate is so bad it's going to get overbuffed next expansion, all aggro will be killed off like how midrange is now.
>>168944773
Goblin Mage is the problem.
>winstreak myself to b3
>now I can't fucking win any trial games
kill me pls
FUCK KHAWY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>168944184
Being fat requires food, which requires going out, which reduces the time you can play gayms.
>>168944780
>Daria + Roach
>Daria + Roach
Those are really subhumans.
>>168944835
Here's a tip. They are not going to let that Lurching Corpse stay for a turn.
>muh attendant
Then you magically never draw into any of your activators.
>>168944865
aka Neutral
>>1689448262slow
>>168944835
I dunno what to tell you man, play the deck a bit. Again, this sounds absolutely insane, but sometimes you don't have a follower on the board on turn 4.
>>168944865
Bullshit, Roach has always been the most OP forest card since vanilla day 1.
>>168944898
>Drop Khawy on their Bahamut
>Thinking...
Kek i'm glad Nep is starting to pickup steam
Why do they not just increase Roach's cost to 3?
How big of a hack do you have to be to think that this card is alright? It's only one more mana than Quickblader and it ends games immediately
>>168943857
I thought there was something in Japan about not allowing money as prizes in tournaments?
>>168944898http://usamin.love/card/underworld_watchman_khawy/e_summon.wav
>>168944898
Just odin bro
>>168945173
kys dubcuck
>>168944865
no it's always the card that actually kills you that's the problem, not the shell around it. much like how dshift was the broken card and not merlln and firechain.
pls ignore
>>168945083
>odins at the bottom of the deck again
>not only does it kill baha it also heals her for 13 neglecting all the damage from my fortes
>>168944780
West top 4 are all Daria + Elf while East top 4 are more spread between 4 classes
>>168944973
t. someone who's never played forest
>>168943813
Anon, I've gotta tell you something.
リノエルフ = Rhino elf
ドロシーウィッチ = Dorothy witch
>opponent thinks about his plays and plays all his cards even though he obviously can't remove my lethal
>passes the turn
what's wrong with these idiots?
>>168945252
kys weebcuck
>>168945252
>>168945410
now you both kiss
Shit like this and to some degree Albert makes me hate this game at times. Its shit gamedesign if a single card can come out anytime and win the game. I came to Shadowverse from Yugioh because Yugioh went absolutely fullretard with that blatant powercreep every season, but Shadowverse isnt too far away from the same shit if the devs dont act faster. But seeing how ridiculous the winrates of roach decks are I guess a nerf will happen sooner or later.
>>168944892
Now one of my opponents just dc'd at mulligan, justice is served.
>>168945274
Merlin is a garbage tutor and that's why the deck sees almost no play nowdays. Thanks for proving my point.
rowan you crazy motherfucker
>>168945409
Maybe he hopes you're retarded or playing on phone and miss lethal?
Hopes for a dc?
Gotta leverage that winrate
>>168944898
Just themis my dude.
>>168939308
i want that smug vampy emblem, even smuggier than that one that i use
and vampy sleeves too, to show off the tail while playing aggro bats
>>168945563
Now that's the spiciest meme i've seen today
>>168945409
Man, I miss running Musususushu so much. That shit almost never worked out, but when it did it was glorious.
>>168945563
What's up with Rowenfags and their lust for memes?
>>168945556
anon... there was a point where merlin was pretty much the single best card in the game. nobody complained about her and everyone directed their rage at dimension shift instead. no shit that the entire dshift deck is garbage at this point.
>>168945358
t. roach sympathizer
63941
concede pls
>>168945814
run face dragon, turn 4 lyriel + mushu + evolve lyriel to feel like you are playing aggro shadow:3
>>168943632
>Royal = Artoria
>Elf = Artoria (Lancer)
>Dragon = Jeanne Alter
>Witch = MHX Alter
>Necromancer = Artoria Alter
>Vampire = atari dumbledore
>Bishop = Jeanne
FTFY
can I get a concede? 49519
You guys will NEVER believe what happens next!
>>168946250
More like
>Royal = Artoria
>Elf = Artoria
>Dragon = Artoria
>Witch = Artoria
>Necromancer = Artoria
>Vampire = Artoria
>Bishop = Artoria
>>168946397
thanks bloody mary
>>168946401
Not sure if he's gonna whoop your ass or gloriously fail in doing so. I'm intrigued
>>168946092
bumping this
>>168946602
He literally cleared the entire board I spent 3 turns making with four mana and two cards out of hand
I eventually got triple flame destroyer into dshift
Really gets my noggin joggin
>>168946614
says invalid room number
>>168945965
Synchronizing and sympathizing are not the same thing, anon.
I hate what forest has become too, but it is absolutely not because of Roach. It's 100% on Gobu for making an otherwise unwieldy card deadly consistent, and the fact that Gobu herself can become a 0 cost card just adds to the bullshit.
Feena is over the line stat-wise too, but that's less of an issue.
>>168946703
Shit it's 63948 fuck me
>removalverse Daria variant
I fucking hate chinks so much. Who the fuck came up with this abomination, and why is every yellow rat netdecking it?
>>168945883
>things that never happened
>>168946795
>Chinks
>Knowing CCGs
This is to be expected
>>168946718
>I hate what forest has become too
If you hate what forest has become and don't mind what forest previously was, you're a stupid cunt with no place commenting on game design
>>168945380
My point is that there are those that actually try to evade from the same shitty pair. I think I will be cheering for them.
>>168946718
Forest has always a broken deck filled with bullshit cards ever since beta.
>>168946872
Is it though? I thought amerifats dominated MtG which is literally the only non meme TCG ever given Pokemon was never balanced and it's a kid's game plus YGO deranging into t1 solitaire wins.
>>168946695
Just Guardian Sun it bro
>>168946897
He probably never played pre-RoB and didn't have a Urd sleeves himself. What a shitter.
>>168946897
Forest has absolutely always been a problem. It's only now that it has become 100% solitaire with extremely limited, fringe, and unreliable counter play.
If you think Tempo Forest in DE was even remotely on the same plane, you may need to reevaluate your standards.
>>168947084
MtG is about as broken as YGO. Don't kid yourself.
>>168947123
Not that guy but I started in DE and I don't have urd sleeves. Feels bad man.
>play haven
>aggro sword, roach and bats
>switch to roach
>control sword, control blood and control shadow
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
>>168947261
How the link system work. Will it save YGO?
>>168947403
>control blood
roach absolutely demolishes control blood
>>168947468
I managed to brick somehow. All I need is 2 wins for AA trials too.
>>168947403
>play daria
>don't care what I match into because I'm so powerful
:thinking:
>>168947613
I am on the verge of making this deck. I have 3 darias but under 20 rune games in ranked solely because I despise it.
>>168945854
sugita is a meme
>>168947723
Don't play something you don't like. You are going to hurt yourself.
>Roach players not playing around Aurelia in AA2
>>168947723
Play DShift then, it's more fun and equally viable
>>168947723
vial them before it corrupts you
>>168947851
>will of the forest
>played take 2 after weeks again
>took swordcraft
>went out with 4 wins, the only loss was because of a fucking Bahamut
So I guess sword is one of the better crafts for take 2? Because I didnt play take 2 for so long because I kept getting my ass kicked with haven and blood, which just felt like a huge waste of time.
>>168947851
How exactly do you play around Aurelia? You need to play your cards, and naturally you will get a bunch of tokens and squishies on the board
>>168947851
>Will of the Forest
>>168947723
>Daria
Are you fuckers fucking retarded? Theres no Daria anymore.
>>168947923
He didn't have it. He took 14 damage from that Aurelia alone. He lost to best boi on turn 9.
>>168947851
>cost 0 homecoming
>It's a "The self damage spell you need to win also kills you for exact lethal" episode
>>168948007
I'm loving playing as Haven. Watching Dariafags burn out is so satisfying.
>>168947723
stop being a bitch, you're just gonna end up drawing all darias early and constantly losing mirrors (which now are your most seen matchup) to the coinflip that's completely out of your control and then be like DUH GUISE DARIAS GOT IT REAL HARD
>>168947982
A nice way to start is by not dropping 3 Fairies on board against Sword on turn 5 if you don't have WotF in hand.
>>168947982
>You need to play your cards
Says who?
>>168947723
Dshift is better now. Masters is full of control.
Why the hell am I all of a sudden queuing into control bloods who place 2 dire bonds on board in AA rank? Not that I'm complaining about free roach wins.
>>168948125
>play haven
>lose to DShift
>play aggro shadow
>kick both DShift and Daria in
It's funny how I beat a haven in a game with 3 reapers, though.
>>168947926
Haven is good but don't ever touch Blood.
Need a concede or I can kill you if you need private match coins!
79263
>>168948154
>mirrors
This is what I dont understand, I tried out Daria because I had most cards anyway, had 3 mirrors in a row and got bored already because mirror matches are pretty much the most boring ones you can have. Fuck mirror matches. Why do people do this to themselfes.
>>168948325
Aggro blood is a bit broken. Haven doesn't stand a chance but the other crafts just need to trade with their shit.
>>168948364
Or it could crash.
32900
What percentage of /svg/ plays Daria? I'm thinking 76.8%
>>168948309
>play aggro shadow
>get raped by forest
You are entirely at the mercy of your opponent and luck in this matchup.
>>168948587
>play aggro anything
>against anything
You are entirely at the mercy of your opponent and luck in this matchup.
>>168947862
d shift gets ran over by daria and roach more often than not.
>>168948572
just strawpoll
http://www.strawpoll.me/12384525
So how does DShift work? Spam spells, do a bit damage out of hand all the time until your flame destroyer and DShift are at low cost, summon flame, extra turn and go face to finish opponent off?
>>168948552
Thanks Mary!
>>168948572
I don't even see that much Daria anymore. I'm at AA0 and it's all fairies and bats over here.
>>168948587
>lyrial killing may and her soccermom
Ultimately boils down to whether if they can throw multiple JUST at you.
>>168948587
aggro shadow vs forest is a much more even match up than you think
>>168948552
wow i actually remember your name from dueling network
>>168948721
Pretty much, you do have to plan out your turns decently well though. It's a satisfying deck to play, as much as I hate to be on the other side of it.
>>168948572
Exclusively? I'd say 30% Daria, 20% Haven, 10% Roach, 40% assorted meme decks.
>>168948503
Good luck drafting your aggro, most of the time the game just offers high cost bricks that depend on vengeance.
>>168948786
I figured there would be some /dng/ stragglers about. I'm even worse at this game.
>>168948630
I guess it's must be luck that I beat Daria and DShift consistently.
>>168948754
>>168948767
A single WotF and it's gg, not to mention sometimes they even play that faggot ass fairy kitty.
>>168948721
you don't strictly need chip damage although it's nice if you can afford it, and you definitely don't need flame destroyer. Very possible to win by dshifting with levi/golems
>>168949082
>will of the fuckers
>the dead came back as ghosts next turn to rape that elf's face
Next game?
>>168948786
>>168948975
>I made top 100 during ruler-only format using fire fist+rulers meme deck
>changed my online name since then so no one will recognize me
>mfw
I didn't think to grab a screenshot as proof, because iirc the page wouldn't highlight your name or anything like that.
Are there any Youtubers that put out daily (or nearly daily) content likeKripp? Semi-educational, deck features, that sort of thing.
I have achieved the rank of C2. Congratulate me.
So ramp dragon counters daria?if you go second.
>>168949180
You forgot the part where the opponent is still almost at full health because of JUST and soccermom.
Bad people are evil!
>>168949270
あぽろ (Satan Cat) does, but I don't think there are any decent English speaking ones.
Is there any reason not to buy 3x Hour of the Banquet decks if I want to go Swordcraft and have the money to blow?
>>168949309
Depends on her draws. No deck beats a god draw Daria.
>>168949270
Cat's really into Control Decks, if you can into Jap that is
>>168949363
And as I stated here >>168948754
Forest is still beatable without a single Just coming your way. They cannot make a bit fat soccermom if you have been keeping his board clean. And Reaper is more than enough to punch them to lethal range.
>>168949309
>counters
There is no counter to a board filled with ooglers and darias turn 4 but
I think ramp is favoured in that match up yeah
>>168949302
How I wish I was actually C2 rank again. Breeze through dailies in like less than an hour.
>>168949183
That format broke me. Was so tired of Prophecy or Rulers every game single game, good on ya for making it that far. I would've killed myself 3 times over.
To this day I don't really know what the fuck to do against Dshift. Spell counters when?
>>168949302
Congratulations, anon!
>>168949801
Rush them down.
>>168949309
the thing to note about ramp dragon is that it goes mostly even with daria even when it goes first
if you get to go second it's about as good against daria as the daria mirror would be, but when you're forced to go first it suffers less from that than any non-aggro deck.
>>168949801
You counter d-shift by being really aggressive and having a lot of health on the board.
>>168949367
BAD, BAD!
>>168949801
Aggro them out or lose. There isn't really anything else you can do.
Guys should I rank up to B? I heard somewhere that you can't drop once you get there, and this might be bad for completing quests and shit
>>168949801
you either rush them down or refuse to play cards and make them mill combo pieces.
>>168949716
This wasn't the format with baby rulers or spellbooks. I bailed out of that one.
I'm talking about the one after that, where people were inventing all these techs and friggin buster blader was this insane powerhouse on his own without nonsensical archetype cramming like you see now. I was playing this FF deck where I cut the water elemental dragon and used the FF card that milled 5 from deck as my one thing that set me apart from what other dragon decks could do, it usually got big eye'd but in that format whoever big eyes first, screws themselves over.
>>168949612
>be masters
>do dailies in less than an hour
>still have no idea why people complain so much
In my head this is only a problem if somehow you managed to not have usable shit for most of your stuff despite Cygames throwing free shit at everyone's face.
>>168949612
In my 4 dailies I got Aggro Blood, Daria, Seraph(I assume), Saha Ramp and Mid Sword(I assume) at C3. Is higher rank that much worse?
>>168950036
If you don't have a deck that is strong and reliable enough for you to rank up effectively yet, don't even bother playing Ranked if not for dailies.
>>168949367
I'm pretty sure she says "Fat people are evil!", actually.
>>168949801
Kill them before they get their solitare game going
The real problem is that you don't know they are d shift when it's already too late
>>168924469
need sauce F A M
>>168949801
You aggro them to death because they can't prevent stormshit outside of Ice Golem. You have 7~8 turns to kill them, make them count.
>>168950212
>no Roach
Yeah, it is.
concede please
36857
>>168946401
he drops crimson sorcery on the temple defender?
>>168949367
Stupid onahole. I hope the forest burns.
What's the most consistent swordcraft decks at low ranks?
>>168950426
Why are people always posting this?
>>168950426
thanks, korean wizard
I don't understand.
>>168950272
does a full roach netdeck count?
>inb4 roach cancer
Seriously though, other than the roach deck that i shamelessly crafted, I only have 2 other haven netdecks. I'm scared about what will happen when cygames nerfs roach
>>168950551
Easy way to get to the shadow realm.
>when a forest asshole rammed his 2/1 roach at your temple defender
Someone teaches these uncultured treehuggers to read.
>>168950491
Joke's on you, the forestcraft deck was a PtP variant.
This is what i rolled. It seems all over the place but i feel like 5 legendary is pretty good dustwise
>>168950551
Sometimes, you get a quest to win a private match for 30 gold so people get on here to ask kind anons to concede for them and get free 30 gold.
>>168950594
Roach beating an favorable matchup? Seraph has no way of killing a roach deck.
>>168950551
There is a daily that requires you to win a private match. For some reason, concedes count for that, even though they don't for the 20 private match missions.
>>168950551
>Why are people always posting this?
There is a daily mission that requires you to win a private match, so they post their room ID here and ask for people to concede to them.
>>168950768
tales from b0
>>168950797
0/10 vial everything and make saha ramp
>>168950931
It's actually masterunranked
>>168950720
>nerf roach
Lol nah, if anything, they would probably release more cards that somehow buff it even more.
>beat the fuck out of Haven early with Roach, they're at 5 HP by turn 6
>but cannot draw a single Roach or Gobu that would immediately end the game
>have to sit there in tears for 5 turns watching him heal and ward up and there wasn't agoddamn thing I could do about it
>>168950843
Why drop the Seraph and deliberately lose turn 8 rather than scoop the second a Gobu is played?
>>168946695
>He literally cleared the entire board
you have 4 creatures on board
>>168950797
>>168950973
whoops forgot image
silver and bronze is forest heavy
>>168950720
>does the best deck in the game count?
Yeah.
>I'm scared about what will happen when cygames nerfs roach
Nothing will happen. Forest has been Tier 1 since the beta, even though the only cards that Cygames ever nerfed were Forest cards. Don't expect that cancer craft to ever leave Tier 1.
>>168951045
Always assume the opponent may be an idiot and misplay.
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074
Game update. Nerfs and stuff.
>>168950843
Temple Defender.
>>168951186
HOLY FUCKING SHITThanks god I saved up my piercing runes
>>168951186
>chapter 9 to 11
HYPE
>>168951186
RIP ROACH I HARDLY KNEW YE
I'm still new to the game and these gold and legendaries are all over the place. Should I keep this and play the solo missions until I have a better understanding of the classes?
CUMMING
>>168951186
>Chapters 9 to 11 added to the main story for Arisa, Erika, and Luna
It's happening!!
>>168951062
It's decent, but you can get way better.
Unless all you care about is Forest, I recommend rerolling. In fact, even if that is the case, you can get a better roll for Forest if you try a bit more.
>>168951186
ITS REAL
>>168951186
>piercing to 2
>goblin mage now no longer fetches roach 100%
Haha. Roach and Diarrhea BTFO
>>168951186
Oh wow
>>168951186
>2 play points or less
>Or less
I understand why but damn, I really liked that tutor.
>>168951062
3 useable, 2 subpar but not complete shit. Not bad.
>>168951016
Get fucked, elftumor
>>168951330
Literally all garbage. Reroll until you have 10+ legendaries from your initial packs, preferably at least 6 of those usable in current meta. At least two animated for the juice.I'm kidding, but those aren't very good. Probably best to reroll. The story mode won't give you the best idea of what makes the classes fun.
>>168951186
ROACH FUCKERS BTFO
>>168951330
>>168951329
ALSO RIP A BUNCH OF OTHER DECKS THAT USED GOBU
Roachshitters BTFO
>>168951526
Such as?
>>168951447
Enjoy your Water Fairy, loser.Dirt Rune can still get Levi and DwarfNo more reaper fishing for Aggro Shadow, though
>>168950551
daily mission where you have to win a private match. I wonder what the people who dont post online or have any friends do for those missions.
>>168948845
Everybody has Daria built, but nobody wants to admit it.
>>168951186
>Chapters 9 to 11 added to the main story for Arisa, Erika, and Luna
Cygames has great taste, Hagfags, cucks, and barafags need not apply
>>168951186
HUGE SHIT INCOMING HUGE SHIT INCOMING HUGE SHIT INCOMING
Why is D-Shift always in the bottom half of my deck? How do I stop this from happening?
>>168951062
How many of each pack are you getting when starting right now? If it's 10 for each set, this isn't that bad.
>>168951517
>>168951512
>Reroll until you have 10+ legendaries from your initial packs
>he actually has 10+ legendaries from the initial packs
wow
>>168951549
aggro blood
LOL
>>168951186
>>168951280
>it's real
what the fuck
this feels way too kneejerk and obvious. At least Hearthstone waits for the next expansion release to nerf cards.
>>168951356
>>168951186
>Only Erika, Luna and Arisa get additional chapters
>They are currently having collab with Granblue
So they will be spending 3 chapters in another dimension then?
Whatever, I love some Luna stuff.
>>168951549
Aggro shadow
>>168951549
discard dragon :^)
>>168951186
ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
>The cost of Piercing Rune will be changed to 2 if an allied follower evolves.
>Goblin Mage will put a random follower that costs 2 play points or less from your deck into your hand.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Time to reinstall the game.
>>168951647
17 ROB
10 standard
10 DE
LAMP DRAGON TIER ONE
>>168951689
>this feels way too kneejerk and obvious.
Did you mean to type "sensible" and "common sense"? Are you actually defending Piercing Rune?
>>168951638
Literally all three copies, every single game today. How the fuck does this happen? How are you supposed to win?
>>168951186
Okay this is actually not a good thing. Because they didn't nerf Levi or Daria, the ladder will turn from Roach/Daria into just Daria.
>>168951817
I'll enjoy being able to play mid range again and shit all over d shift thanks bru
W-With a bang and... a boom...
>>168951817
Get your ass kicked in, you roachfag/diarrheafag.
ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT AGGRO SWORD NEXT
>>168951817
ITS TIME FOR MIDSWORD TO SHINE MUTHERFUCKERS
TIME FOR FLORAL IS BAD MEME TO DIE
Rune barely got slapped on the wrist.
>>168951817
>Implying only Roach and Daria beats D-shift
GO BLOODKIN
>>168951186
Piercing Rune nerf is pretty obvious. Making it 1 cost was too much. The Goblin Mage nerf is actually pretty nice. It nerfs roach decks without actually nerfing roach directly, but it still makes Mini Goblin good for other aggro decks.
>>168951923
no cuz im a sword main haHA
>>168951740
Already made the changes.
No Ivory Dragon, 3rd Efya and 2 Trinities instead.
Same deck as before.
>>168951517
This is pretty good anon. 10 legendaries is not bad at all.
>>168951884
I don't see this killing Forest either, it just makes the roach combo more inconsistent. Exactly as inconsistent as it used to be when Tempo was one of the best decks in the game. Which is a good thing, if they manage to weaken the deck without killing it, because that should be the goal.
>>168951968
>barely got slapped
I bet you never play Warrior in Hurtstone and how Execute nerf impacted them.
>levi untouched
>daria untoched
Better than nothing
And thank god roach is getting rekt
>>168951884
Levi won't feel so bad when he's dropped at turn 4 but he can only piercing rune OR crimson sorcery a minion.
They don't want to delete these decks from the game, remember, and that's the correct philosophy.
>>168951945
post deck please
I've been considering buying three of the sword prebuilts and I feel like this nerf will put me over the edge.
>>168951280
Time to switch out my Gobu for Attendant. Thanks god I already reached Masters so I don't really care anymore. But still, RIP baby girl, you did good fetching my Reapers.
>>168951186
>Minor nerf to piercing rune, still a very strong option
>Kill Gobu
>No changes to Daria or Levi
Epic.
>Elite 2 difficulty setting added to Practice mode for all leaders as well as a new achievement for completion
Can't wait tbqh fampais
>tfw going first as rune is going to be even worse
>>168952119
Sorry but these cancer decks dying won't bring bring otohime back
>1PP more Piercing
It's fucking nothing. Still won't save you if Daria opens well.
>that indirect feena nerf
Good thing I'm born a hoarder.I still have 15 arias stashed
>>168952196
easiest 1k gold of my life
>>168952171
>attendant in fucking aggro shadow
AotW will be worth much more, dude.
im just glad roach got nerfed tbqh
fuck elfniggers
>>168952241
But there are other good cards in the prebuilt, right?
>>168952119
More of a control hybrid at this point
>>168952241
Otohime is still dead, salamander breath and lion spirit too strong.
>>168951884
>the ladder will turn from Roach/Daria into just Daria.
roach has 2 bad matchups
daria has, like, 4
if roach topples from its position as the best deck that's perfectly fine
>>168952247
>doubling the mana cost
>fucking nothing
Piercing rune got significantly worse
>>168952279
Nah, Attendant just requires you to run triple soul conversion.
>>168952247
At least they cannot evolve Levi and Pierce you 3 times on turn 5. It has happened to me before, mind you.
>>168952196
Will they give 200 more coins each?
– Chapters 9 to 11 added to the main story for Arisa, Erika, and Luna
- Piercing rune and roachniggers nerfed
It's not the best, but it's something i'm happy with
So, I already started on my new wolfbolt decklist.
I got Liza x2 in to help with the Dshift matchup.
Should I have Odin in as well, or just let the wolf otk control decks?
>>168952406
I've done it before and it let me get turn 7 DS off too. 1 cost Rune is fucking broken.
>>168951834
You don't balance a card game at the level of individual cards. If they wanted to weaken Daria they should have nerfed a Daria-specific card, like Clarke or Ogler. Nerfing Piercing Rune just looks like they polled internet forums for the most popular suggested change, then made it before even giving the new expansion a chance to mix things up. Extremely kneejerk. Reminds me of Overwatch balancing more than anything.
>– Elite 2 difficulty setting added to Practice mode for all leaders as well as a new achievement for completion
EVEN MORE FREE GOLD
REV UP THOSE D-SHIFT BOYS
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT RUNE
>>168952523
Come at me, bro.
>>168952305
Isn't Aurelia the other legendary? She's not exactly amazing these days imo either. And the gold cards in that deck are bad except white paladin and frontguard. Oh and alwidas. Idk your choice
What's all this talk of nerfs and changes?
Is a new version coming out soon?
>tfw mary will be usable again
blood is back boys
>>168952510
Piercing Rune was a broken card in any deck it was played don't try to be too clever.
>>168952523
>win or lose entirely based on whether my opponent is playing aggro or control
nah
>>168952464
I'm tossing my last Gobu but I'm keeping Feena. Might run a Maahes.
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073
Developer commentary
>>168952630
Update on this Sunday.
>>168952616
>Isn't Aurelia the other legendary? She's not exactly amazing these days imo either.
> Aurelia
> Not the second best ward in the entire game
Anon, please
How many piercing runes have you saved up /svg/?
>>168952510
Yeah but I don't think it was only Daria they wanted to nerf. Every rune deck ran this card and I think they intended it only for fast lists.
is it her time to shine boys?
>>168950272
>>168950272
>>168950994
>>168951152
Lol literally right after I posted the thread. Still gonna rank up tho
>tfw when Forest will still be Tier 1 regardless of the Gobu nerf because the craft is that much cancer
>>168952464
How do you beat seraph without odin?
>>168952743
Have they mentioned specific nerfs or changes or are people just speculating.
>>168952636
What? None of this stops Cblood from being shit.
>>168952730
>Rune actually was almost 1/3 of the ladder
I mean it felt like that for sure, but I feel a bit more sane to see official confirmation.
>>168952730
Hey, at least they acknowledged that overwhelming Rune meta instead of telling us every decks/classes are used at the same rate.
>>168952523
>tfw been winning all fucking day with daria dshift
>>168952857
The shadowlog stats tell the same story. It shouldn't really be too surprising
ROACH AUTIST
B T F O
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>>168952830
Same as DShift.
>>168952835
Click the link and see for yourself.
>>168952835
Why don't you just scroll up, dude?
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074
>>168952957
Last time they threw the equal played class at us. Good thing they acknowledged it this time round.
>>168952630
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074
Get informed, baka
>>168952791
I have five Levi's too. Really was hoping to cash in.
Welp, it was fun while it lasted. Hail our new Seraph overlords!
>>168952669
That's not how it works. Cards are allowed to be individually stronger than other cards.
>>168952794
Did they want to nerf Dirt Rune? Because they did! Maybe it'll finally fall below 40% win rate in Masters.
>>168952992
WELCOME BACK PTP/TEMPO FOREST.
DONT THEY REALIZE NERFING GOBU LIKE THIS FUCKS OVER ALL THE NON-ROACH DECKS THAT USE HER?
WHAT THE FUCK
JUST NERF ROACH YOU PIECES OF SHIT
>>168952730
Man this is so much better to read than Brode's shitty "It's the worst best deck we've ever had, just play Control Warrior like this one guy whose entire life revolves around playing Control Warrior" only to nerf the fucking cards everyone knew was a problem a few weeks later anyway
>>168952854
Roach nerf means one less terrible match up for CBlood.
>>168952796
I will definitely need another 100 round after the nerf for my Boning Angel deck. DShift and Seraph will still be painful, but at least Diarrhea and Roach won't be as insufferable.
>>168953071
>That's not how it works.
Yes it is. Piercing Rune was unbalanced garbage.
Fuck. Better go do rune and elf for the event first.
>>168953106
What other decks use gobu?
>>168953098
>pee tee pee
>when every single control decks run odin and bahamut
>>168953098
ptp is too slow + bahamut fucks it up big time
>>168952992
You know Tempo and the wolf variants are alive and well right? You're just not going to see the turn 7 15 damage from hand bullshit as often any more.
>>168953071
Dirt rune is an unfortunate casualty of this but I don't think their long term plan was for it to be strong on the back of t4 Levi piercing . I understand it sucks a deck you like got nerfed without being OP. I might have handled it differently myself
>>168953217
My combo Vampy deck that I just got 3k points with yesterday
WHY FUCKING NERF BLOOD AGAIN?
But where's the Saha Ramp nerf?
>>168953106
I run goblin mage in my Dirt deck, I don't mind the change since I don't run any 1 drops in it, my aggro blood might suffer a little bit tho.
>>168953098
>autolose to Dragon
Thanks for the free wins, sucker.
>>168952730
Nice to see the metadata they have just about lines up with the one on shadowlog. Next month will probably be pretty interesting with everyone trying to figure out another Elf deck, and we'll see if Piercing Rune still stays as a 3x staple in Tempo.
>>168953173
Apparently it's not, or we would have seen nerfs to cards like Ancient Elf a long time ago.
>>168953106
I can still use Gobu in Dirt without problem. Gobu is too strong of a tutor anyways and would eventually enable another strong 2 drop in a future expansion.
>>168953319
Your 3k was the last straw. It raised all the red flags in their command center.
>>168953217
I like Gobu in aggro shadow, kinda miffed about it but it might be for the greater good so eh.
>>168953338
>playing dragon
Thanks for giving me free wins in general. I hear you roar.
>>168953319
Fucker I just vialed some shit to craft Uriel because of you
>>168953410
Ancient Elf is strong. Piercing Rune was broken. Downplaying the brokeness of Piercing Rune is an incorrect choice you're making.
>>168952854
roach pushed decks out of the meta that control blood does good against and also destroys control blood.
if roach remove their 1 drops then they just die to aggro and all the bad players carried by it will stop playing it, if they don't cut those cards then they ruin their consistency and this gives control decks more time to stabilize or kill them. if they go tempo then they just get blown out by board clears. if they go wolfbolt you can banish wolf or heal out of range. if they go ptp you just bahamut that shit off the board or kill them before they can drop it.
>>168951186
>Piercing rune nerf
good
>Gobbo nerf
whoah thats a big one, and not only to roach.
Crap missing like 9 golds from purgatory deck.
>>168953413
I'm sitting here all "ayy lmao" because the only thing this does to me as a dirt main is... well, it cements my loss to aggro because Levirune no longer answers that bullshit.
But deck composition doesn't change at all so there's that.
>>168953221
>>168953226
How does a 10PP card counter PtP elf?
>>168953457
But it shouldn't matter what 2 drop Gobbu pulled, right? I mean I know you want Reapers but I can't imagine you only run one two-drop in aggro Shadow. Meanwhile back in DE everyone ran Fairy Whisperers and Liza, but took them out because it was way better to get roaches 100% of the time.
>>168953319
Just don't run any 1 pp follower bro
>>168953592
It comes out on Turn 7 :^)
>>168953457
Gobu as is would have limited their ability to make good 2-drops forever. Gobu was a problematic card, though I still think Roach needed a nerf for the good of overall Forest balance.
Gobu nerf not as bad it is looks. What's going to be happen is that Goblin is going to be cut, maybe only running 2 Water Fairies so at worst there's a 3/8 chance to get a Roach from your fist Gobu. Tempo is going to get a lot more popular.
Pic related is now gobu's best friend.
>>168953526
Ancient Elf is obviously much stronger and more critical to the success of top tier decks than Piercing Rune, as is Daria herself. It's like you've never even played against the card.
>>168953131
>Le Jew Man pizza delivery boy game designer shilling a Wallet deck to beat the most broken deck in the game
And you're surprised about this kikery?
What other 2pp or less follower does Forest have that's used in GobuRoach?
Does that mean the deck will only have Roach as its 2pp follower from now on?
>>168953601
She can fish out Lyrial, Conjurer, Mummy or Reaper. The first 3 are decent with Reaper being the best draw. Now that we have chances to draw into Goblin or Skull Beast, it won't be as good.
>>168953601
The other 2 drops in aggro shadow are still pretty useful while 1 drops are just useless after turn 3, and it also lessen the chance of you drawing Reaper.
>>168953891
>this fucking retard
Rerolled again.
whats this saha ramp deck im hearing about?
>>168953592
You can ramp and throw out Bahamut early. One or two PtP won't kill Bahamut either. Ramp has always had a decent matchup against PtP anyway because of Storm followers along with Genesis Dragon and Fafnir just being big guys that don't die easily to one PtP.
>>168953891
Elf child may, water fairy, goblin
Basically they're trying to kill off roache's insanely good early curve that curves perfectly into ancient elf
>>168953801
I think the problem is that going 2nd and clearing 3 followers was stronger than Cygames thinks is reasonable. Imagine if Humpty didn't blow himself up; that would be incredibly stupid to play against.
>>168953891
>water fairy
>goblin
it already has only roach as it's 2
>>168953801
You know what, I think you're that one guy who is always whining about Ancient Elf.
Nerfing Piercing Rune allows the opponent to more easily keep a board they've built up to contest anything a Daria pulls on the same turn she's played.
>>168953739
The bad thing is now forest needs a new win condition. Without means to grab roaches it just gets fucked most of the time. Atleast till the expansion forest will definately be lower bracket.
RIP forest, atleast i can now add Fortes to my Saha ramp
>>168953947
Those legos are pretty good, I'd probably keep
>>168953947
useless golds but nice legendaries
>>168953947
>animated seraph
jelly desu
>>168953740
Cutting out those 1 drops means a weaker Ancient Elf along with just less combo fodder in later turns. It'd be pretty big if you did that. No doubt Tempo will be more popular now though.
>>168953740
I can confirm. Put in other 2-drops to dilute the roach pulls, and in the situation where I used gobu I would've been fine with May.
The deck hasn't lost any of it's strong tools, just its consistency to roach like a god. You can still roach people into a dire situation anyways.
>>168953947
You're about 50k vials short for saha ramp just yet.
That's still a great roll for legends though.
>>168953969
Elf child may what? :^)
>>168953914
>>168953921
True, but you could just swap out the 1 drop skeleton for the Goblin. Weaker on turn 1 but if you get him with Gobbu he's about as good as any 2/2. I see it's not as good and I don't play aggro but I feel like the simple fact that a 3 drop is going to put another card in your hand is still all that matters to aggro.
>>168953947
>whats this saha ramp deck im hearing about?
Insanely expensive Ramp Dragon build that got popular relatively recently and a lot of people consider Tier 1. Don't think about it as a starting player.
>>168954052
Rise of wolfbolt
>>168953947
All of your legendaries are good fampaisan
>>168953801
>Ancient Elf is obviously much stronger and more critical to the success of top tier decks than Piercing Rune
bitch half the time I save ancient elves for the bounce effect on roach turns
she might be hard to deal with but most classes do end up being able to deal with her, even on curve
>>168954151
>>168954132
ahh i see so fuck that then
>cygames only buckled up and nerfed when the season is ending
Welp, there is another round, I suppose.
>>168954142
You're not entirely wrong, in fact that's what I'm planning on doing/testing out. It's just pulling the reaper was something that mattered a lot. Anything that smudges the chances of a reaper turn hurts.
>>168953508
I'M MORE PISSED ABOUT THIS THAN ANYONE.
I'm fucking so angry that I actually posted on Reddit. This is pure horse shit.
The ONLY silver lining is that this MIGHT make my Tyrant deck viable now (which you can use Uriel for) but it's really just a fucking disaster.
Fuck you Cygames.
This nerf is clearly designed to ensure that Forest is still the top dog. Fucking bullshit pet class.
>>168953947
>3 sahas
You need 3 Lucifer, 3 bahamut, 2 odin, 2-3 fortes, 3 breath of the salamander, 2 genesis dragon
:^)
>>168954225
>even on curve
Not if they go first
>tfw you just crafted a roach deck
why cygames
at least I crafted ancient elf which is broken in its own right
>>168953631
No one drops in aggro blood.
>>168954142
Any aggro shadow deck runs all of the 3 1 drops available.
>>168954052
>silver bolt
>rose queen:^)
>tempo
>ptp
They can honestly put together a good control deck using guidance on cards like Sahaquiel and Olivia too, you actually have a choice of what forest deck to play now.
>>168954151
>and a lot of people consider Tier 1
>tfw we meme'd the entire general to waste tons of liquids to craft a a deck claiming it's tier 1
>>168954310
Make that +1 Olivia and -1 Baha and also +1 Santa.
Help with the daily please.
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>>168954295
It was better to wait until after the Famitsu Cup qualifiers anyway. It'll be interesting to see how this will affect the finals though, especially since they'll have less than a month to adjust to the new changes.
>>168953319
C-can I come back, onii-chan?
>>168954430
It was GameAI that started that shit though, not us.
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need some wins i have no resources emote if you want me to lose to you as well
>>168954530
Even the tourny players fell for it
>>168954491
Thanks!
>>168924469
Just to ask, since I missed the rewards for January, but what were the emblems and sleeves for last month?
>>168954517
My daughter is very cute