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***Read this guide for the upcoming GranBlueF event: http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Previous Thread:
>>168838529
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Poll results: Which leader would be the most successful in seducing all of the other leaders in this poll?

151 votes

25% Vania
21% Isabelle
14% Eris
12% Luna
10% Arisa
10% Forte
9% Erika

New poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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What deck to make with these leggos
I dont wanna play sword anymore
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>>168872289
>erotic roleplay
Like cosplay sex or what?
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>>168872228
Reminder Arisa engages in sexual activity with beetles
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>>168872346
Dust both animateds, Pascales, eidolon, Pluto, and Saha and one other.

Thats 10k vials. go craft Daria.
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>>168872391
Like Erika making you dress up as a s princess.
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3 more days until the event. Are you guys ready yet?
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How did Blood go from the 2nd most played class to the least played? I thought you had the meta figured out a month ago.
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>>168872391
Basically anything that constitutes acting out a character other than your usual self. Didn't get too specific because I'm not going to make a poll for every possible roleplay idea.
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>>168872391
Like when you have dirty make pretend sexual conversations with strangers on the internet where the girl is usually a gay dude in disguise.

>tfw no sv gf
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>>168872289
kys dubcuck
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>>168872494
Can erika dress up like the princess while I dress as her?
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Play Runecraft
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>>168872346
If you want to make a mediocre deck you can do Guardian Sun with another Satan.
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>>168872617
turns out that stacking wards, heals, and board wipes to stop daria and roach also stops blood aggro too.
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Dirtfags on suicide watch
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>>168872617
>Royal ahead of Witch
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>>168872289
I want Vampy to tie me up and then grind her foot against my cock while I beg her to let me knock her up.
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I've been playing for 1 month now and even though I told myself I would only do 12k per season, I kept going because of the leader exp anyway. Is there any reason not to keep going until AA? I already get master players every other game in unranked anyway.
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We really need more storm card like Albert for next expansion. Fuck Dshift so much. 6pp 4/3 storm with neat enhance effect would be great.
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>>168872743
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>168873064
If you're already that far there's really nothing wrong with climbing. You'll just see better players in higher ranks.
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>vengeance cards keep their vengeance effect if you dip into it while they're in your hand even if you recover out of it
Did I fix blood?
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>>168873185
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM I made a MOM post again!
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>>168873212
I would keep cards like Righetous Devil the same but cards that reduce in cost like Revelation and Diabolic Drain keep their low cost like Piercing Rune does. It'd be interesting to see how it would turn out.
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>tfw you play azazel against haven fags and they start spilling their spaghetti
You've been in lethal range all this time hag
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If you really wanna build that SahaLuci deck, remember to dust all your animated bronze and silvers.
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>>168873448
>curate
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How many games has best boy won you today, Sword friends?
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>get tired of dariaverse
>played some Rance for a change
Really makes you question your life decisions.
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>>168873448
>control decks odin all my seraphs
>tfw i drop satan
>tfw they panic and drop their bahamuts or desperately flood the board
>tfw sacred plea pops this turn and i play the tribunals and decrees ive been saving
>tfw they concede
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>>168873681
Can't wait to get those GBF /sleeves/
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>>168873691
>dariaverse
Epic meme
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>>168873193
Forgot to mention but I'm already A3, that's why I was asking. How much harder is AA compared to this?
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>>168874034
It's not much different. The last half of the A3 grind is pretty much all against AA and masters players anyway
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>>168873691
>a game where you rape as many people as possible
>and then some rance
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He thinks he's safe..
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>>168874034
The beginning of AA was pretty much the same. I remembering being stuck in the middle of AA2 to the middle of AA3 the most though.
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>>168874126
>Rance will never be a swordcraft hero
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>>168874109
So it would be better? Since A3 matched to AA and above would get 150 score per win or doss it still get scaled depending on score difference?
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>>168874034
In A I could climb naturally using somewhat scavenged decks of each faction. In AA I had to stick with only my completed decks to climb and stopped doing missions in ranked.
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>>168873691
Which rance?
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>>168874223
Yeah just go ahead and hit AA, you have the added benefit of being on the floor so you don't have to feel anxious about losing points.
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What's the 20 dmg roach combo like?
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HELP
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>>168874372
A bit like a fine kebab
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>swordsman killing 5/6 ogler and 5/5 daria in one match

This cards is really underrated. I won several games because of him.
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I fucked up.
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>>168874487
gob
fairy
fairy
roach
guidance
roach
roach
roach

no idea how much dmg that is but its your only option
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>He plays sword
>B-but only aggro sword is bad, midrange or control is actually good!!
>Literally worse haven or dragon
>B-but I want to be unique and play cuckcraft


There are peope in this general who play a gimped class, while at the same time complaining that Roach and Daria are unfair

It makes no sense, absolutely no sense. Why wouldnt you play to win?
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>>168874625
last roach can't be played because the board is full
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>>168874625
require's 6 follower spots.
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So what's the minimum master score to hit the top 1000? I'm at 7K and I'm just curious how much I'll have to get to hit it.
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>>168874487
2 0cost -> roach(3d) -> guidance -> roach x3(5,6,7)
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>>168874748
10k at the end of the month is considered low masters
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>>168874487
fairy
gobo
roach (3)
guidance
roach (5)
roach (6)
roach (7)

21 damage. disgusting.
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>>168874568
did he drop a ward next turn or something
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>>168872617
See >>168839862
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>>168874748
Previois thread some anon show that currently it's around 13k
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>>168874793
Damn, I need to write these down.
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>currently 5k
>will need to streak 80 games to catch up but too honoraburu to play diarrhea and roach

Meh, back to homebrewing, I guess. 2378 Nep was fun, but I need something more spicy.
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>>168874907
what is tempo forest?
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I just got two Darias and two Bahamuts yesterday.

What cancer should I vial stuff for?
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>>168874929
Wow that much? Yeah screw that, I can't handle more of this meta to grind an extra 6K and possibly more in the next week.
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>>168874998
Literally just roach.
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Why can't I fucking give Storm to a follower with Rush?
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>>168874996
Im no roach expert myself but Im pretty sure more roaches played is always gonna equal more damage. Then just work backwards from there.
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>>168875061
It just going to get higher with new people hitting that range and people who are already in the top 1k don't want to get kicked out.
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>you will never have this emblem
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>>168875214
Hmm, I see. That makes sense, thanks.
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>>168874996
Just keep practicing and review games, sometimes you can spot lethal where you missed the first time because of a ward in play
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>>168874487
How are you people so retarded.
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>>168875262
i dont want this emblem
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>>168875137

>too honoraburu to play diarrhea and roach

No offense, but I don't like that deck and I'm not going to ladder with it.
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>>168875004
The one that plays Cynthia and Tia.
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>>168875454
What don't you like about it?
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>>168875508

Being the class that annoyed the fuck out of me in the previous expansion

>charon and her lich
>will of the fucker
>powered death's breath
>will of the fucker + may
>powered death's breath, again
>fairy circle + will of the fucker
>tia, roach, soccermom
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Feena X Gobbu doujins when?
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>>168875692
skill of the forest ;)
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>>168875692
I didn't play last expansion. Was Forest also t1? Anyway, I'm just playing what svg told me to stick to as a newbie and it's working fine.
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>>168875137
>>168875508
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>>168875732
NEVER
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>>168875909

In DE, no other class can deal with a turn 3 4/5 ward.

Let's not forget the 6/6 ward generator. Oh, you killed off all their fairies and roaches? Have a PTP up your ass.
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Is Daria the most disgusting, heinous and cancerous deck this game has ever seen or was it even worse pre RoB?
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65960

Concede anyone?
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>>168876135
Only if you service me afterwards.
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>>168875909
kill yourself forest faggot
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>>168876135
Thanks a lot
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>>168876204
I'm not a faggot.
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>>168876127
What does it even actually do to kill you? I'm too new to understand how any meta rune deck works.
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>>168875909
Yes, forest had 2 decks in T1 during DE. Top 3 crafts were haven, forest and sword with rune in the middle and shadow, blood and dragon at the bottom
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How is it to play in masters just to get ranked quests and monthly rewards done? I think I could reach it but I don't want to screw myself out of those.
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>>168876251
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>>168876251
It wins the game when it doesn't brick.
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>>168876251
It's affinity from MTG but you just play cards instead of needing to have the cards in play, and one card also refills your hand and then lowers the costs of all the affinity guys in your hand.
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>>168876451
>all 3 piercing runes were already boosted from the previous evolve
Disgusting.
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>>168876457
Not entirely true. If aggro goes first and have also good hand you're fucked.
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>>168876540
Aggro can't really kill you before t4 unless you literally don't summon any followers. Even then, there's glows, bolts, snipes and other shit to slow you down. While I agree it's possible, I don't think aggro bats or sword can consistently beat daria unless it bricks.
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>>168876451
>OUTSKILLED.webm
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>>168876748
Nobody plays bats now and sword just storm your face.
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>>168876748
It doesn't because it can clear the board with Levi, Clarke, Blade Mage, and Piercing Rune while still keeping board prescence or their hand refreshed with Dorothy. The aggro deck with the best winrate against it is Aggro Necro, probably because of Shadow Reaper and other stuff.
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>>168875909
>Was Forest also t1?
forest has always been t1
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STOP GLOWING MY FUCKING COUNTDOWN 1 PLEASE YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT GOD DAMN
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>>168877321
GET FUCKED HAG
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>check master players' stream that ladders in this month
>if it's not roach.dek, it's daria.dek

What went wrong, /svg/?
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WHERE ARE THE GODDAMN LEAKS?
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>>168877584

>not playing the best decks in ranked

Stop being a fucking hipster.
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>>168877651
My dick is leaking precum.
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>finally relent and make a Daria deck
I'm sorry mom and dad
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>>168877651
What leaks? Famitsu? New expansion reveal is still two, even three weeks away. We already know what the GBF collab is literally nothing except for emblems and sleeves.
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>>168877651
Goddess of the Sun, Amaterasu
7pp 3/5 Havencraft legendary
Rush, Everytime This card Attack enemy Followers, Banish them instead
Evolve: Summon Kusanagi (5pp amulet, everytime an enemy followers attack, banish them at the end of the enemy turn)
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Does SV patch as rarely as cuckstone?
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>>168877856
What patch?
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>>168877790
Ghosthound has Tons of Sex
2pp 2/2 Shadowcraft legendary
Fanfare: For the rest of the game, whenever your follower is banished, summon it back at the end of turn.
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Why do I randomly get 150 exp in ranked instead of 100? I thought streaks didn't exist after A.
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>>168877897
Balance patches.
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>>168877947
i think you get 150 if your opponent's rank is higher than yours
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>decide to play with my Seraph deck
>keep getting matched against DShift

jdimsa
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>>168877947
you gain and lose rating based on the opponents rank. if they're lower you get 100 from a win and lose 100 on a loss, if they're much higher you get 150 for a win and lose only 70.

you can get anywhere in between depending on how much higher they are.
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>>168877975
What patches?
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>>168877768
>Play Daria
>Realize just how inconsistent it is
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>>168877769
RoB was revealed on Dec 2nd, 26 days before the release. Next expansion will most likely be revealed next week.
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>>168878043
Don't ever quote me again.
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>>168877790
>7PP permanent board wipes

No
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>>168874632
Is this a meme or true? Do I get fucked if I reroll for sword?
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>>168878032
Ah, cool. Does that mean I gain less exp from lower ranks though?
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>>168878248
If you want to play control go Blood/Haven/Dragon in that order.
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>>168872346
Play BIG GUY golem dirt rune with pascale
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>>168872346
Sun satan
Count havencraft
Any budget deck and shove saha-odin-baha-satan in there and it'll still win
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>>168878479
it's based on their rank relative to yours. so if they have like 5000 points more you'll get 150 regardless of if you're in d or aa
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>>168874568
Why are roach shitters so disgusting? It's simple addition dude.
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>>168874996
From, >>168406832

1r - 2pp, 1 roach, 1 slot - 1 + n dam
2r - 4pp, 2 roaches, 2 slots - 3 + 2*n dam
3r - 6pp, 3 roaches, 3 slots - 6 + 3*n dam
r-ng-r - 5pp, 1 roach + 1 n. guidance, 1 slot - 4 + 2*n dam
r-ng-r-r - 7pp, 2 roaches + 1 n. guidance, 2 slots - 8 + 3*n dam
r-ng-r-ng-r - 8pp, 1 roach + 2 n. guidances, 1 slot - 9 + 3*n
r-ng-r-ng-r-r -10pp, 2 roaches + 2 n. guidances, 2 slots - 15 + 4*n

n it's how many cards you played before doing the combo
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>>168874568
>>168874487
>average roach player
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>>168878820
So if i'm a3 with 32999 score and get matched with rank aa0 with 33k score I would get 150 score if I win?
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And it's always the Masters Forest players that pull this shit on me, scumbag deck piloted by scumbag players.
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Does anything feel better than the perfect topdeck?
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God I can't wait for the event to come and go so I can delete all these shit decks for classes I hate.
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>>168879005
I still won 16 games in a row tho.
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>>168879120
>o I can delete all these shit decks for classes I hate.
?
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>>168879120
You still need dailies dude. You'll never be free
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>>168879124
A streak in the shitter rank, am I supposed to be surprised?
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>>168879098
you'd get 101 or something, you can get anywhere from 100 to 150 points. those are the minimum and maximum amounts.
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>>168879357
It's ok grandpa, I will be master before end of next month. You had a headstart but you'll be left to bite my dust.
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>>168879381
Ah, I thought once you get matched to one rank above you, you will get the full 150 score. Guess it only apply to master.
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>>168879384
At least he'll have his dignity and integrity
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>>168879495
What are those? Free vials?
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>>168879384
Yeah sure, come to Masters and beat me then you can talk.
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>>168879384

>piloting fotm gives you privilege to talk big

Damn son, you really got me there. Hope you learn to deal with reapers unlike the rest of the master shitters I came across.
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>>168879384
AA and low masters are literally ward city. Good luck with that chump.
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>>168879547
skill child may ;)
skill of the forest ;)
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>>168879547
What skillful deck do you play then?
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>>168879598
>roach
>will of the forest
nty
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>>168879547
What reapers? I don't see any :^)
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Is ramp dragon actually fun? Considering dropping 18k to fill out my baha/luci/saha playsets and make the upcoming GBF event easier, but if the deck plays like a pile of bricks I might as well save the dust and limp through the event with face dragon

On a related note, is the bahamut variant of control blood any fun? I never pulled bloody mary but I did pull all the standard golds so crafting into ramp dragon would enable cucktrol blood too
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So with less aggro blood on ladder do mid/control sword swap out aurelia for something else?
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>>168879710
>every time I face dragon they get saha - luci combo
>whenever I play dragon I get saha on its own
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>>168879710
>upcoming GBF event
?
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>>168879834
anyone who responds to this noob or bait is reddit
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>>168879710
It has its moments. You mulligan for emissary/oracle and you have cavalier's so you can usually play a 10pp card around t7-8 pretty reliably and much of aggro got ran out by anti-shitter tech
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>play followers vs dshift
>get nuked and he gets free spellboots off of infinite removal
>don't play followers
>masturbates and mills entire deck
Defend this shadowbabs.
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>>168879868
You just did, my redditbro :^)
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>>168879598
>>168879692

Next time bring 3 May with you.
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>>168879868
(you)
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>>168872346
aggro sword
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LADS
ON THIS DAY, I AM BLESSED
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>>168879945

Woops. That teaches me for fast posting.
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>>168880035
>6 ranked wins

More like cursed
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>>168880035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUIXq8oblY

Post pack results when it drops.
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concede to me!

73594
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>tfw took the $80 crystal deal because of Neps tights
>Get pic related in my 3rd pack

Thank you, Cygames. Nep next please.
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I'll be honest. Now that I got her, Feena makes for kind of a shitty sleeve.
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>>168880108
wtf
that's a fucking 4820 vials worth booster pack
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>>168880108
HOLY SHIT STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP.

THERE'S A 50 CRYSTAL FOR 1 PACK DAILY DEAL.

YOU'LL DOUBLE YOUR VALUE IF YOU JUST STOP REEEEEE
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>Think of Pompous Princess on a whim
>"Faster servant!"
>And then she summons a quickblader
>"Let's speed things up!"

...Took me this long to realize, that must have been intentional now is it?
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>>168880107
thank you, luna!
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>>168880198

>most sword followers die to a dead pup

Really makes you dhink.
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>>168880194
It would take me over 3 months to spend all my vials on packs if I took that shitty daily deal.
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>>168880340
By SV logic, a goblin can kill two knights

But a sufficiently motivated knight can kill a goblin by himself

Their standards on what is a knight sure is bad
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>>168880340
Spooked to death, perhaps?
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>>168880340
Is there a better feeling than banner+arthurian light

>>168880389
And you'd have twice the packs
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Why is floral considered bad? She brings 8 HP to the table for 4 PP.
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>>168880446
Saved, thanks.
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>>168880409
goblins are scary, man

they are nigh immortal creatures from the legends after all and knights are like ordinary humans
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>>168880446
>this post
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>>168879834
>>168879868
Not me but I have no idea what even you're on about as I started playing a few days ago.
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>>168880491
Direct counters from the expansions.
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>>168880559
Read the OP.
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>>168880491
Too slow and the followers brought out suck in comparison to what Dorothy decks can do.
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>>168880559
it has nothing to do with the game, reddit scum, and everything to do with this thread
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>>168880559
literally read the OP then you cunt
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How many of you bought 1 of all the prebuilts just for the emblems/sleeves, and how bad did you feel about it afterwards? Thinking of doing it myself.
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>>168880491
Amelia and Jeno are better in this meta full of shitters using Daria and Roach.
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pls concede but only if you want to be luna's friend
39631
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>>168880753
be your own friend luna
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>>168880737
I did and I was fine with it cause it was from some part-time temp work so whatever.
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>>168880737
Anyone doing this is probably a whale with no shame.
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>>168880753
thanks nep friend
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>>168880737
I did it for the sleeves and the alt-artwork. No regrets.
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>play Seraph turn 8
>enemy has 12 damage on the board that I can't deal with, still have 20 HP though
>I'll lose next turn if I don't win
>turn 9 starts
>I play Healing Prayer #1
>emote "I'm sorry"
>I play Healing Prayer #2
>emote "I'm sorry"
>he concedes
>I DIDN'T HAVE A THIRD COUNTDOWN REDUCTION CARD IN MY HAND
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I just stalled a game against Erika past 20 turns by spamming Fervors and Lucifers. That shit ain't right.
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>>168880737
I bought the one for Rune

Man, the alt art for Merlin sure looks a lot better than normal Merlin if anything
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>>168880491
The evolve point used to get full value out of them is wasted. Other cards can use it better in this meta like Monika.
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>>168880980
Just leonidas bro :^)
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>>168880968
it's because of people like you that I don't concede to seraph anymore
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>>168880980
It's why dshift exists
To make sure that any retards that make a deck that's sole purpose is to go and delay the game for as long as possible and make going up against them extremely boring and tedious go and fuck themselves.
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>>168880968
>>168881040
>Having emotes on at all
Concede fags deserve everything they get

>>168881080
And Satan
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I really want to play a dragon ramp deck and I think I should be able to put a decent one together soon. What legendaries should I craft? I tried to do my homework on what people usually play.

I reckon I NEED:
2-3 x Bahamut
2-3 x Luci
2-3 x Saha

And usual additions include:
1-3 x Odin
1-3 x Satan
1-3 x Forte
1 x Dark Angel Olivia
1 x Fafnir

I already have
2 x Bahamut
2 x Forte
1 x Fafnir

What to craft and use at first? 2x Saha and 3x Luci?

And on a related note I can dust a few animated legendaries like Lord of the Flies, and Skullflame to cough up a fair amount of dust for it. They are all shit except for Ancient Elf, right? I don't really care about Forest anyway.
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I have enough Vials left for 20 more packs. I got no Neps and no Mordecai.

Should I gamble and open packs or buy 3 of the Pre-Built?

If I buy the Pre-Build I get 3 Mordecai, aggro Shadow, and enough vials to craft 1 Nep. That doesn't sound bad at all.
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>>168881150
>And on a related note I can dust a few animated legendaries like Lord of the Flies, and Skullflame to cough up a fair amount of dust for it.
Was supposed to be "like Lord of the Flies, Ancient Elf, and Skullflame"
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I somehow manage to acquire 15k dust, is Ramp Dragon fun? How about Wolf+Silver Bolt Forest?

Speaking of, what makes Silver Bolt + Wolf Tier 4 now?
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>>168881160
prebuilt and vial fly bro if you want more neps
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>>168880737
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>>168880737
Why would you do it if you can't even use all the emblems at once
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>>168881150
You can budget ramp with what you have

>>168881231
Fun when you nut the 2 oracle, 1 emsisary, 1 cavalier. Brick city when you don't
Forest decks are cancer incarnate

>>168881160
You bought so many you'll be able to just craft them from extras. A shame because if you just did the daily you'd have gotten double the chances of getting her.
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>>168881239
Yeah I'm gonna do that. I need Foul Tempest, Deaths Breath, and Mordecai anyway. Getting that sweet alt-art Cerberus is cool too.

Not to mention that I could get absolutely fucked if I open packs.
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tfw V A L U E
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When Isabelle bounces your single bat and you have three Vampy Fortresses in your hand
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>>168881380
>tfw you V A L U E the same guy 2 turns later AGAIN
>he concedes
lmao
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>>168881380
Haven is just so disgusting to play against
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>>168881472
They don't exactly have a lot of draw. You basically emptied his hand.
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Is prebuilt sword any good?

I would lack two Otohimes and Regalias. Can I substitute for them in any way?
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>>168881582
Otohime is currently unused, aurelia can be subbed with monika
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>>168881463
>using vamp fortess
>using fucking three vamp fortresses
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>>168881463
>running three vamp fortresses
the joke is on you
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>Drop Yurius and Blood Wof
>Run all three Gobus to tutor Vampy
>Add Uriel to tutor Vampy fortress
>Suddenly have positive winrate

Really makes you think
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>>168881150
>2 x Bahamut
>2 x Forte
Have you ever played ramp dragon of any stripe before? You have the cards for an "old-school" storm ramp using forte/bahamut/genesis as your top end, and if you have no ramp dragon experience yet I'd suggest doing that so you can get a personal perspective on what you want from a curve-topper package
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>>168881678
She seems to be on almost every midrange and control list though

Thats weird
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>>168881756
omg

add urd to revive imp lancer :^)
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>>168881582
Otomemes is mostly dead due to faggots like >>168881380 , >>168881472 and all the other AoE and people teching ward+heals for daria everywhere. It has its moments though.


Sub Monika and/or Albert for the aurelia's you don't have.

Within a week and a half, the prebuilt deck and the suggestion for how you improve it with draws wil lbe up at https://shadowverse.com/articles/ . He's halfway through so far

>>168881463
>tfw drop 2 forts and use precious bloodfangs
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>>168881679
>>168881709

See

>>168881756
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>>168881840
>hehe im so smart im so much better than those master players which never saw this strat coming :)
wheres ur twitter so i can follow ur master plays
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>>168881812
Happens a lot with low rank daria, royal, and roach. They're not the brightest bunch
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>>168881830

I dropped Imp Lancer and upped my burn spells to the max. It was so painful since she is top tier wife.

But my new philosophy is I'm willing to lose to anything BUT wards.

Fuck wards and everything they represent.
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>>168881823
I find her only useful against aggro decks, pretty meh against every other decks since most of the time evolved aurelia can only make 2 trades, 3 if you are lucky.
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>>168881756
>Tales from C rank
>>
forts were dropped by a few lists long ago

but they are dropped either for more burn/removal (demonic strikes, night hordes, dods, demonic storms) or for more 1pp followers
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>>168881756
>4pp 3/3 to give you a 2pp amulet that will deal a maximum of 4 damage to the face and requires setup
>in an aggro deck
I don't think you quite understand the point of aggro
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>>168881812
Wouldn't she have won if she had gone for the face and let Urd live?
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>>168881894

I'm in master but my rank is shit right now because I got depressed by all the Daria/Roach and started memeing with Tyrant.

But since I switched to this formula I've had several winstreaks today.
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>>168881929
i run 3x imp lancers, 3x claws, 2x storms, 3x strikes, 2x dods, 3x night horde (not a direct burn but a direct removal), dunno why would your drop your best storm finisher
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>>168882012

You don't understand how to use the amulets.

When you drop two Vampiric Fortresses and evolve vampy (and leave her on the board) it does 8 damage in a single turn.

The entire reason I run Uriel and tutor Vampy is because it allows that combo every game.
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>>168882121
You have to rmemeber the general is stuffed to the gills with braindead netdecking C-shitters so you can't imply stuff because they don't grasp it. You gotta jump straight to the how and why like you did finally.
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>>168881823
Where are you looking up these lists?
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>>168882121
every fucking decent aggro decks runs the vampy tutor 3x since gobu was released

your uriel stuff is a meme though
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>>168882087

I think it has to do with my playstyle. Clearly three Imp Lancers are the standard and I'm not saying my build is the best.

But it has worked better for me.
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>>168881823
Does the place with lists separate their lists by expansion? Otomemes was big in DE and died in RoB
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>>168881832

I really wish someone could figure out a precious bloodfangs deck that was actually awesome.
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>have Tribunal of Good and Evil on the board
>Lord of Cucks drops a Bahamut
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>>168882259
I expect a blood amulet similar to Titania's sanctuary but like 3pp and maybe 1 life per evolve or something.
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>>168882235
>your uriel stuff is a meme though
it's not hard for a meme to be better than aggro bats, which arguably even deader than dirt
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>>168882196

Yeah I've been at the depressing masters grind for so long that I forget other people might not know the little tricks.

There are a lot of tricks I still don't know but aggro bats is my wheelhouse.
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>>168882237
When they see Uriel come out they probably think you're a Mary deck and don't expect the burst to come before turn 8.
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>>168881326
How will it work without the main heal combo though?

>>168881809
I suppose I could just do that and dick around seeing as I have yet to play even one ranked match before. Better to just fiddle around with random shit in Rank F than to netdeck and get rekt at a rank I don't belong in.

I do have 2x Genesis too so that's certainly an option, but what kind of other cards do I put in? Apart from the typical ramp cards and some heals, do I use the other storm dragon cards and drive face? Or am I supposed to just stall and only use Genesis and Forte as storm followers?
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>>168882235

It's only a meme until the Nips start copying me.
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>Play and evo queen serpent with a shapeshifter
>He has to deal with it
>Drop a mususshu, neptune, and evolve it
>Drop simalacrums, shapeshifts, and leviathan

>>168882475
You ramp up and beat them retarded. Your value plays let you expand dong further with every turn until they give out.
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>>168882438

Oh wow, I never thought of using Uriel to pull Dire Bond for Mary. I guess it's still bad though?

I only say that because the Cblood winrate is so sad right now.
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Icon changer for the win tracker I'm making, how do I make it not look shit?

what background colour to use in the icon selector (actual icons will have no background), border or no border
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>youtube.com/watch?v=S6Hkrcl8lyE
Control Necro with Lord of the RNG
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>>168882509
>Durrgin was a meme until saha-luci neutralcraft was spoonfed to the masses
It hurts....
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>>168882258
Ah,that might be it

>>168882215
Somethingsomething .gg
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>>168882601

The meta was better before people caught onto Saharamp.

I regret sharing that deck with people.
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>>168882565
Seems more or less fine, probably gonna need a search function cause that looks liek a nightmare as it fills up.
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>>168882559
it still gets ran over roach and it makes your daria matchup worse so it's not worth it.

your matchup against other aggro decks stays about the same since you can run them out of steam and it makes your matchups against d shift and other control decks slightly better. maybe it'll work next expansion but for now it's a just meme.
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Noice
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>>168882721
Doesn't make a difference, that tournament really broadcast it.
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>>168882774
>465
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>>168882721
I haven't added any way to add new icons to it, you can just save your icons in a folder somewhere though and browse to them with custom icon if you want new ones

the grey background behind the icons looks pretty shit atm
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>>168882565
>how do I make it not look shit?
less vampys
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>>168882565
add eris please
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>>168882806
fug :-DDDDD
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38431 concede please
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How to fix shadowverse in 5 easy steps:

>Seraph first form is countdown 2
>Daria 11 PP base
>Roach no longer counts for combo purposes
>Levi to 4 mana
>Leaders to 25 HP base
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>>168883072
Thanks Vampy
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>>168883242
>Leaders to 25 HP base
Just when I thought Vengeance couldn't get any worse.
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>>168880968
I ran into a player doing this. He kept spamming emotes as he played countdowns and stopped for about 30 secs before the last one but I just patiently waited. Then he conceded. Dat shit ain't gonna fool me yo.
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>>168872228
>Go to new deck slot
>Smash dat mf auto
>Picked a leader at random
How's yours /svg/?
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>>168882586

>no nep
>no cerb

Not sure if this works, satancan.
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>>168883349

>Vengeance now activates at 15 HP
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>>168883242
So then we'll have a meta of sahaluci and aggro swordfags playing it to beat them?
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I need to win please.
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>>168883242
What's actually gonna happen is everyone gets more multi-purpose ward, weak ward that summons/last words a ward, heals, draws, and timeless witch/weak timeless witch+summons a weak timeless witch
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>>168883242
>you cant add more reduce countdown in amulets 2 or more per turn
>>168883427
Thx mate.
>>
>>168882586
>immediately queues into 2 fucking dirt

And they say the matchmaking isn't rigged.
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>>168882586

>deathbrand instead of pact

I just don't get it.
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>>168882475
throw in seabrand and either urd (preferable) or eyfa if you don't have urds
i mean ideally you wouldn't really "stall", it's called RAMP dragon for a reason, but yes you should use most of the same stall package as saharamp, fervor/goblinmount/BotS/imprisoned/blazing
>>
Ceridwen triggers fanfare effect on stuff she summons?
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>>168883383
Why you you need Nep in a deck like this?
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>unranked
>dragon daily
>oh fuck here we go again
>lose with face deck 3 times in a row because masters playing seraph and control sword
>netdeck a ramp deck and craft my last sahaluci for 3x set
>manage to wear a dariafag who vomited hand twice
>he still ragequits
I think I need a break from this game. It's starting to get to me even if I just log in for dailies.
>>
>>168883586
Alright, I'll do that and save the crafting for later. Thanks.

And this game seems pretty fast-paced overall due to how evolve gives rush and whatnot, so anything that has to get to 10 PP to win kinda makes me feel like I'm already stalling.
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>>168883608
No, fanfares only work when cards are played from hand.
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>>168883634

If you are not going nep, then you can have the utility cerb can offer.
>>
>>168881756
I dropped yurius out for vamp forts but I didn't think of uriel.
>>
Is Lionel useful in any meme decks?
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>>168883571
>3rd decks is eidolon seraph memes
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>>168882475
You have seabrand, Eyfa, Giglamesh, shapeshift, urd too
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>>168883820
Some people used to use him in OTK decks when RoB first came out. He's been dropped since other stuff is way better and he isn't needed. You can use him in another deck maybe so you can have a 0 cost Elven Princess or something on turn 5 along with a 2/2. There's really not much use for him.
>>
Does Saha trigger fanfares?
>>
5 rankeds, 4 vs rune

fucking nerf that craft to the ground, it literally kills the game
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>>168884057

No
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>>168884057
She triggers my erection.
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>>168884227
fag
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>>168884227
pls do no sexualize the archangel
>>
if urd kills and revives an enhanced by overflow seabrand or eyfa, will they keep their storm and also eyfa's stat buff?
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>>168883895
Just shows how you're forced to ran fucking Odin in every single fucking deck or you literally can't do anything.
Havenshitters will defend this, naturally.
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>>168884432
Right
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>>168884404
Nope to all.
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>>168884404
No. It says fanfare: gain storm and Urd doesn't trigger fanfares.
If it said "gain storm whenever you have overflow active" then yes which is something they should've done with both Overflow and Vengeance a long fucking time ago.
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>>168884508
>Moriana
>Keep tap dancing over vengeance while using your overpowered damage self cards and limil's boosted followers
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>>168884591
Obviously they can make it so it only triggers once per summon but I probably wouldn't mind if they don't. Would add new interesting combos.
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>>168884508
It's fine for Overflow, but there are some cute plays you can't make if the Vengeance cards are dynamic.

If Righteous Devil lost Bane and Drain after striking, that'd be bad for example.
>>
>>168884838

Well maybe they can make it a trigger for activation and not a condition. Like whenever you reach vengeance you gain drain and bane but cannot lose it. Obviously fanfare will still apply.
>>
I'm playing seraph, and I'm getting queued by the 4th D-shift deck in a row.

I haven't seen that deck in weeks.
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>>168885025
Control's swung back and with it, the dshift vultures. The meta's fully aktiver'd now
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>>168884972
Yeah, something like Piercing Rune for Vengeance. Not exactly like Piercing Rune because it should lose Vengeance status if the card is in your hand when you heal up, but yeah something like that.

Seeing how Blood is consistently a bad class, I'm hopeful that they will print good cards for the craft. They managed to make Dragon and Shadow relevant, I'd like to think they can do it for Blood as well.
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>>168885345
They got diabolic drain

>Dragon
>Relevant
Yeah nah, neutralcraft is.
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>hey, dawg, we heard you like ducks...
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>>168885345
blood is more relevant than shadow though
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>>168885673
Not a mere duck.
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>>168885673
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>>168885673
Too bad you didn't get your ducks in a row though.
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>>168885837
that's all that feathered slut's fault!
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>>168885745
No. Control blood is a meme, and aggro blood is worse than shadow aggro (see shadowlogs). Why play control blood when you can play saha ramp dragon? It's literally the same thing without the ramp cards.

Nepnep is a good counter to saha ramp dragon and has decent match-ups with a lot of meta decks like Roach.

tl;dr: shadow can play nepnep and aggro, while blood can only play aggro, or lose master points with cblood.
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>>168885745
Nep is seeing more use because of Dragon now. Less people seem to play Dorothy in higher ranks now too so Control Blood has even less reason to exist.
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>>168885907

Honestly the difference between aggro shadow and aggro blood is negligible.

Just don't fall for the aggro sword meme.
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>>168885907
shadowlog is laughable
it has fucking trashy aggro sword as the best aggro, lol

blood has more less experienced players and is the only aggro deck which winrate increased for the latest period
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>>168886002
Yeah, I played both to climb and in both decks, you're always like pic related if you want to win.

>>168886048
Yeah I don't get the deal with aggro sword. It's probably the same thing with cblood really, people want to play an archetype in a craft that they like.
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>>168886002
aggro sword is legit
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>>168886272
L M A O
M
A
O
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btw, leaving aside these silly arguments, do you think sword has the best default deck?
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funfact, forte's protection isn't a fanfare....
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>>168886187

Blood is a bit more consistent.

With Shadow you are literally praying for Cerb and Phantom Howl.
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>>168886390
blood is a strong contendor
razory claw is busted

>>168886530
shadow reaper is more important than either
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>>168882565
Add a foil effect to the border to make it fanciness

:3
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>>168886391
funfact: you were an accident
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Just got T9 Insta-seraph'd for the first time. Hold me /svg/. I dunno what man can do against suck reckless follower destruction and board clear.
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>5 days at the same spot
Come on game. I need only 4 matches to hit a new rank.
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>want to rank up from C3
>THE TRIALS BEGIN

What did they mean by this, I only started 4days ago.
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Any last suggestions for wintracker? if not I'll finish off a couple of things and make it available later this week probably
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>>168887189
You gotta win 2/3 to move on or whatever.
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I """love""" seeing these ads
I """love""" seeing arisa's stupid smug face looming over everything, mocking everyone who isn't a roachfucker
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>>168887189
you need to win matches in a row else you reset back to C0
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>>168887189

You lose.
You die IN REAL LIFE
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>>168886994
There's only 3 ways to win against Seraph
a) Flat-out kill them before turn 9
b) Pray to god they still don't have a Seraph on turn 8 and fail to draw it in any of the turns afterwards
c) If a) and b) didn't happen, get them down to low enough HP before turn 8 so that they're forced to play other cards to stay alive over dropping their Seraph
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>>168886994
Put in odins then never draw them when you need them.
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>>168887207
Medusa Emblem?
How well/can it export its data for posting shit.
Are you able to add deck names for the record keeping?
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>>168887007
You'll get there. I'd been stuck for two weeks in AA0-1 before I managed to break free.
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>tfw styling Daria players left and right with CBlood.

Burn all you want faggot, I have enough healing and removal for your entire deck.
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>>168887279
And actually I forgot d) justodinlol
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>>168887207
Game tracker makes more sense over win tracker IMO.
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>>168887279
>Kept trying to but bald man/lion spirit would let me
Is there a hotline I can call?
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Does haven have any good outs to seraph?
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>>168887243
Rowen, Arisa and Rin Gon are the holy meme trinity Cygames just shoves into everything.
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>>168887320
I was almost there, needed one match but suddenly losing streak.
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>>168887360
Call this hotline >>168881380 >>168881472
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>>168887297
>medusa emblem
can't really be bothered making more emblems, you can make your own though and browse for it from the icon changer.

>export
haven't added any export, everything is saved in an XML file at the moment, what kind of export would you guys want?

>deck names
yeah you set your own deck names
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>working on turning my Csword deck into midranged

>looks at gamepress and half the list use Otohime

She's still played? These decks include Albert as well so I know they aren't out of date.
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>>168887218
yeah ok thanks

>>168887248
are you memeing me?
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>>168887434
Just like generic spreadsheet format that's easy copy/paste/edit to put into other shit and do shit with

I mean for like, the other shit. So if I get meme'd hard by seacraft I can have it listed as seacraft i nthe records
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>>168887501
Only if you're ahead. If you need to catchup she doesn't do jack for you.
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>>168887507
He's not. Best mulligan well.
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>>168887501
Tempo/Midrange decks are all about flooding the board and having board control. Otohime isn't a bad card for that kind of gameplan, it's just that this gameplan has a lot of counters now, and only Daria can pull it off in this meta.
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>>168887510
like this?

ill look into exporting to csv or something
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>>168887507
no
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>>168872228
Default decks for all your shitposting needs
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>>168887568
>>168887728

Fucking hell who designed this shit system?
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>>168881252
The Merlin one is really nice and I use it currently
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>>168887765
You lost?
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should we tell him?
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>>168887623
>>168887567
Looking at all these midrange decks and looking at the match ups i've been having it seems Csword would overall do better?
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>>168887665
No for opponent

So if I played as sword, banner memes for 10 games against 10 dragons I'd be able to have

Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - saha-luci ramp - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - Seacraft - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - saha-luci ramp - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - Seacraft - first lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - Storm dragon - second - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - saha-luci ramp - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - Fluted-spire - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - OTK Disco - second - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - saha-luci ramp - first - lost
Swordcraft - Banner memes - dragoncraft - OTK Disco - second - lost
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>>168887279

It's also theoretically possible to exhaust their cooldown options if they don't get any sacred pleas.
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>>168887765
Step up or step off son. If you can't nut you clearly need more time in shitter purgatory instead of riding on the raw power of a netdeck you can't pilot.
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>>168887882
What if you just get bricked and then you have to climb again the same ranks you already fucking beat.
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Hear the meme dragon roar. Rip sword.
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>>168887810
Well yea that's why midrange sort of died out.
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>>168887665
Oh I see it now, yeah, like that. I was looking at the latest 10 matching and didn't see the opponents deck listed.
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>>168887983
And aggro.

If it wasn't for the fact that Blood and Shadow literally only have aggro to play, you wouldn't see those decks period.
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>>168887960
You don't "just brick" Fix your fucking deck.
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>>168872428
DELETE THIS
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>>168887207
Add auto-scrolling hologram/foil effect to background and borders for fanciness

:3
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>>168887823
it does store all that data, I just didn't put it in the list of last 10 games to conserve space
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>>168888009
Once more dshifts start coming out, aggro will be back, don't worry.
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>>168888163
Neat, thanks.
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>Otohime is bad in C/MRSSword
>I have hard time finding a good list that doesnt use her

Could you guys post a deck without her?
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This win streak list makes me vomit. http://game-ai.jp/14534/
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Well, here we are now.
But somehow i cant feel good about this.
Well atleast i roached 2 darias to death in trials.
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>>168888351
Welcome to purgatory. You can now be matched up against masters
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https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-midrange-swordcraft-70-wins-out-100-matches-maru

Are Olivia's really that good to use in Sword? Evolving doesn't seem like a direct answer especially so late in the game.
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NEED PRIVET.
50763
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>>168888417
haven't tried it but it could be nice for any alberts you draw late game? free 10 damage
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>>168888390
I immideatly regret this decicion.
Forgot about winstreaks and got into trials so there were no turning back. Was not going to move up till after granblue event, but oh well.
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>>168888451
Thanks corn senpai.
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>>168888538
>9 mana
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>>168888561
saved it from here BRAH.
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>>168888417
It's alright until you have better. She reloads your albert/floral/avant blader//fangblades and helps you try to hang on and not die
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>>168888417
Evolving gives rush, so yes it's good.
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>>168888523
You'll be perfectly fine, you won't see Masters in A, I haven't yet.
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If I have 1 dead Bahamut and 1 dead Olivia, and use 'Rise of the dead', will it always pull Baha?
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>>168888561
Negative pp when?
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>>168888639
It's THE HIGHEST cost even if it says something ambiguous. It's only random if you have two dead 10 pp cost followers for example.

Unless I'm mistaken because I'm new but that's based on my Take Two experiences.
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Uriel in aggro bats is just a meme guys
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>>168888686
>Randomly add one of your highest-cost followers that has been destroyed during this match to your hand.
>one of your highest-cost

Who thought this was a good idea, terminology is fucking important in card games.
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>>168888697
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>>168888764
Not him but the jp text actually makes it clear cut. The english translations are all lazy.
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>altered fate ptp meme
nice try shit cuck
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>>168888638
4th game since got to A0.
Nothing but silly blood aggro.
What is this, did i timeleap to the start of the RoB?
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>>168888686
>>168888764

It seems slightly confusing because of the idiomatic use of "one of the" superlative statements in english.

But the meaning should be clear in the context of a card game.

And yes, it will always pull the highest cost follower. It would never, for example, pull an eight drop if you have a dead nine drop.
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>>168888916
You can only blame intern-kun for his poor translations.
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>>168888697
That's what, 9 dmg on end turn? I don't bat
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>>168888969
Yup, he's won
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>sword sucks without albert
fuck this shit class
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>>168888697
>turn 7
>enemy still at 8HP
>"aggro"
gratz on your newly made midrange aggro deck
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>>168888779

No other gif more accurately summarizes how it feels to meme on someone.
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>>168889001
Tfw got 2 animated albert and 1 normal from daily packs. Meh never gonna use them unless its for daily.
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>>168889005
The sword cuck probably had lots of wards and heals, they certainly do when I play against them. Blood aggro's winrate against sword must be the lowest of all classes desu.
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>>168889005

Ironic, considering he's playing against the archetypal Midrange Deck from DE.

Also, who the hell still plays midrange Otohime Sword?
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how did I do for a reroll? I'd like to get seven legendaries altogether with two ancient elves but then that's beginning to sound a bit greedy
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>>168889131
reroll golem is fucking useless and 5 isnt great and gabriel and eidolon are mostly memes
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Cat is live.
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>>168889061
>The sword cuck probably had lots of wards and heals, they certainly do when I play against them. Blood aggro's winrate against sword must be the lowest of all classes desu.

He did.

Those wardcraft fuckers are the main reason I just dropped Imp Lancer and Blood Wolf out of my deck.
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>5 daria games in a row

when will it end
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>>168888697
How does it fair if you take out blood wolves though? Won't your turn 2 be really weak? You would only have vampy and bloodkin and razor claw to play but if you play razor claw you won't have a board.
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>>168889239
You also have Yurius and often some spare 1 drops. I agree though, dropping Wolf is not a great idea, only sword has a turn 2 ward and that doesn't even matter if you go first or if they don't draw it.
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>>168889131
Golem's a bad bahamut. Eido's part of a meme deck that needs more new cards to be solid. Gabriel's okay until you get better as long as yo ucan keep something on the board. Tia/Cerb are meta.

>>168889178
They only get 30 packs if they start now. 5's almost double the going rate.
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>>168889320
Pretty sure that guy took out all the 2 drops except for vampy and added in uriel and vamp forts to ensure gobu and uriel vamp fort pulls.
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>Play Saha ramp for 5 dragon daily.
>Dirt rune
Oh crap it felt so good to baha the silly wall of amulets and golems down and drop santa. Gotta give props that he didnt quit even after i healed from 7hp to max with Santa and Luci bullshit.
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>>168881150
LotF is good. Skull is probably safe to dust.
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>>168889349
goblin mage doesn't pull amulets
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>>168889389
>tfw you skullmeme a birb out and pop your tribunal to clear their ward
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So what the fuck will Cygames do to keep Shadowcraft's skellies intact when they eventually release the game in China?
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>>168889412
but uriel does
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>replace maid leader with dingdong
>winrate suddenly 3 times better

shadowbabs???
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>>168889412
Gobu to pull vampy and uriel to pull vamp forts dumbo.
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>>168889531
replace your life
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>>168889531
>replacing your all important commander tutor with a random card draw that doesn't do any damage
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>replace all 40 of your cards with 40 bahamuts
>winrate suddenly 88 times higher

shadowbabs???
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>>168889531
>>168889638

>replace all 40 cards with 40 Darias
>winrate suddenly 955 times higher

shadowbabs???
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>>168889638
>Replace deck with 40 quickbladers
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>>168889638
>anon's shit deck runs 40 bahamuts
>run a deck with 40 hamsas
>play a hamsa every turn until he inevitably bahamuts
>when he drops bahamut you can ram a 15/4 hamsa into it before losing
>in reality you just drop a hamsa every turn starting from turn two and the damage builds up in increments of 2 until anon dies on turn 6
anon??
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>>168889239

Yeah like this post said >>168889349

I took out all of my two drops for Vampy.

It's true that your only follower drop on turn 2 is summon bloodkin or Vampy herself and that is definitely the main weakness of this build.

But since you can rely on getting a good Vampy combo on turn 4 or later it's not so bad to play Vampy fortress on curve.

You also have razory claw which is the worst possible turn 2 play, but it's not nearly as bad as playing nothing.

On the flip side though, Blood has some great three drop followers. Having three Gobus, three Veights and two or three Killer Devils is awesome.

Honestly I think the extra three drops are better than Yurius and Blood Wolf in some ways.
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>>168889753
delet this
dont let the goyim know
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>>168889760
Post dicklist
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Hey everyone I'm too stupid to pilot Roach any advice please?

https://my.mixtape.moe/jkjezs.webm
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>>168889760

Oh and I also dropped all of my storm followers for more burn damage because fuck wards and everything they represent.

I don't want to jerk myself off too much but I think this could become a new archetype for aggro bats if Nips aren't already doing this.
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>>168889753
>replace shadowverse with hearthstone
>no longer a pedo

???
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>>168889852

Emote more, and don't save EPM fairies against aggro decks, just throw them out there so you can trade out threats unless they enable a much better play next turn.
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>>168889852
Titania's sanctuary, Petal fencer with some other shit to keep him up, then vomit elf of the gemstones and fairy-petal fencers until they die.
>>
owo??
>>
I have 2 saha 3 baha 1 forte 2 satans 0 luci
Is it worth it to meme with saha ramp? Does someone have a list?
I think it's a fun deck
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>>168889760
>>168889856
Will give this a try. I already dropped yurius for vamp forts since everyone is running wards now but I didn't think to put in uriels.
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>>168890036
>0 luci
this kills the saha ramp
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>>168890140
10/10 take it to worlds
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>>168890061

Yeah if the meta changes to be less ward heavy, and I hope it does, I might switch back to a more traditional build (or my Hana Kana deck).

But unless they nerf roach I think the ward meta is gonna be here for a long time.
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>>168889816
>>168890061

Sorry, about the above mistake HERE is my deck list.
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>>168890234
>Hana Kana deck

what's this, how many cards are voiced by her?
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>>168890317
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>>168890317
dark general, fairy princess and dark summoner.
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>>168890317

The only one that I know of which is voiced by her is Dark General and she gave Cygames their money's worth if you ask me:

http://usamin.love/card/dark_general/j_summon.wav
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>>168890409

Fairy Princess?

Is that a NEW card?
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>>168890103
well i can craft it since i'm planning to experiment with luci in other decks anyway. I also forgot to mention that i have 2 odins.
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DELETE KHAWY FROM THE GAME HOW IS THIS CARD IN ANY WAY BALANCED
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>>168890548
Just don't play followers
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>>168890548
THIS
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>>168890548
nice bahamut you got there would be a shame if anything happened to it also thanks for 13hp ;)
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>>168890364

Yeah this is basically my Hana Kana deck too except I run three of demon strike.

It bricks less than people think and the reach is incredible but it's just too easily screwed over by all the wards in this meta.
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>>168890409
>dark summoner
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>>168890548

Khawy can't stop the ethereal memes
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>>168890519
>fairy princess is so bad, there are people who think she's a new card
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>>168888764

there's nothing wrong or confusing with this text

can you tell us why "one of your highest-cost" is confusing to you?

>>168888916

No, it isn't even slightly confusing. It's clear to anyone that actually understands English
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>>168890817
It would be a lot clearer if they just left out the "one of" part, it only makes it ambiguous, is it my 10 or 9 cost card, they are both part of the highest cost cards group which is not defined especially since followers is used as in a plural form.

>Randomly add one of your highest-cost followers that has been destroyed during this match to your hand.

>Randomly add your highest-cost follower that has been destroyed during this match to your hand.

The difference is obvious.
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>>168890635
>odin
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>>168890684
>tfw the dark summoner/cursed executioner/serpent charmer hits just right
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>>168890958
To show you that you only get the one of your Bahamuts back that died, not all 3 of them.
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>>168890642
>>168890713
When you fuckers will learn to save screenshots as jpg, 4chan servers are slow af to load pngs.
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>Cat is actually playing with a female leader
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>>168891143

It's an OS X feature
>>
60223
need a win for free rupees
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>>168891205
stream link?
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>>168891205

Alright where can I watch this guy?

I know he doesn't stream on Twitch so I have never seen one of these streams you fuckers are always going on about.
>>
Someone fucking show me how to roach I'm so bad I got to hear the dragon's roar.
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>>168891226
Thanks rune friend
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>>168891143
Blame hiro. Loading pngs used to be fast before he fucked around with the image servers.
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>>168891016
>nep into khawy
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>>168891242
Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paiZO9YcNX8
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>>168891205
>not only that, he's actually playing shadow

The end is nigh.
>>
>forest teching in robin

For what purpose other to fuck himself up?
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>>168891437
Counter roach.
You know a deck is bullshit when it starts to tech against itself.
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>>168891437
Fuck off roachniggers
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>>168891297
hope this helps
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>>168891506
How do I win as non-roach, non-lego forest?
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>>168891327

Thanks!
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>>168891563
Pretend to be a Roach/PtP forest and make your opponent concede.
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>>168890958
>It would be a lot clearer if they just left out the "one of" part, it only makes it ambiguous, is it my 10 or 9

No, you're an idiot if you think that way. The reason "one of" is there is because if you have 2 different dead highest cost follower cards that have the same cost (ex. a Cursed Soldier and Lord of the Flies), it will randomly pull one of those back.

Your argument and example is wrong because you understood it wrong from the start. Think more next time before complaining about something.

This guy >>168891070 lacks comprehension as well

I'm actually pretty suspicious how much the lopsided winrates are affected by stupid players seeing complaints like yours here
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>>168891506
SHIT THANKS
WHY HAVRNT I SEEN THIS BDFORE

AHHH
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>>168891563
You put in roach and other legos.

or go neutral
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>>168891676
RNGesus has denied me fate/ptp entirely
>>
25410

Can I get someone to lose but not surrender?
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>>168873681
Best boy is a saint and the last defense against stupid meme decks.
>>
>that bming Hag on stream

And you guys asked why nobodies like them
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>>168891696

>Calls people stupid
>Thinks lopsided Forest and Rune winrates are caused by anything other than the extremely broken class mechanics and cards
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>Haven shitters taunting against a deck that they know cannot win against them
>Haven shitters forcing Odin into shadow decks

Fucking heresy.
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>>168891676
Keep your handsize big, keep clearing their wards and watch them concede after turn 8.
>>
So do I just reroll until I get two legendaries I'll use in the same deck? How often do they balance the game? I don't want to go for Daria if they're going to nerf the deck.
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>>168891805

Thanks Urias
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I kind of feel like I bad person when I q into someone doing master trials as Dshift and I'm playing aggro blood.
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>>168891934
Just give em the win then.
If I see someone at a flat score number I just meme around a little then concede to them.
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UNICA CYCLONE!
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>>168891934
Fuck them. You're doing it right.
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>>168891907
Yeah. It saves you a lot of momentum.

They've done it 2 times in nearly a year. They increased harvest festival's pp cost to 2 and increased homecoming's cost to 7. You're safe.
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>>168892009

I'm on a winstreak and I've had a bad season so I needed the points if I want any chance of catching up to the top 1000.
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>People talk here like Roach and Daria are killing the game

What are some other good and cheapish decks for a newcomer?
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>>168892060

I like to let Dshifters win because I want them to think Dshift is good in masters. But in this case I just needed the points too bad.

If he was playing Daria I wouldn't feel bad at all beating him.
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>>168892180
>muh catering to casuals

Earn your fucking cards by playing, don't expect to get one of the best decks in the game as soon as you start playing.
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>>168892291
Not him but did you even read what he wrote? Go back to school and learn some reading comprehension you retard.
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>>168892180

Well to be fair, Roach is not the easiest deck to pilot well. A bad player won't be able to maximize the incredible consistency.

Daria is pure roulette. Your hand is either shit or unbeatable.
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>>168891839

Suspicious =/= Thinks in finality

You belong in the stupid group as well

Don't be offended just because you're one of the people I rightly called stupid in my previous posts. You can't help being stupid.
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>>168892180
aggro blood - 3-5 gold
aggro sword - 3 leggo 3 gold
aggro shadow - 3 leggo 3 gold
daria rune - 3 leggo 3 gold
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>>168892378
I miss DE meta where you could build some of the good decks with only golds
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>>168892528
Aggro blood is cheap as fuck and super easy to win with
I went on an 8 win streak this morning while following class. Granted I'm only in A1 but he asked as a newcomer.
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>>168892528
You can still do it and they'll probably work up til A or so. Albert is not 100% needed at first, same for cerberus, they're just really good cards to have and do the last push
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>Give otohimes guards ward
>sword is now as cancerous as rune
And thats how i fixed the game.
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>>168892528
You still can build Bat and Storm Haven.
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Concede to me again :3
62501
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>>168892528
You still can for now. 2 xpaks and it's lego+gold bricks though
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>>168892910
Also you can replace the alwida's with warbound cavalier's which are cheaper for a grand total of 1 gold for t7 lethal
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>>168892868
thank you :3
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>>168892728
See before, you could finish a deck 100% with only golds

Now, sure, Albert or other leges aren't needed, but the deck isn't complete.

>>168892746

They're not the best decks though unlike back in DE meta where some of the best decks were 100% complete with only golds
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What's with the 90 second "Checking match result" wait at the end of games?
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>>168893175
Ragequit
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>>168893121
Yeah, stuff like fangblade fill in for albert until you get him
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>>168893175
Usually the opponent is on a slower connection like a phone or tablet, it's not the player throwing their iPhone against a wall like /svg/ likes to imagine.
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>>168893197
>>168893242
Hah, alright.
I'm new, just climbing through D with a shitty aggro sword deck and waiting 90 seconds after every second match is somewhat annoying.
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Just starting out, in the middle of reroll hell right now. I've read that the prebuilt decks are worth it since they actually provide worthwhile cards. I'm looking to buy one alongside a good reroll to get a good start. What's the current low rank cancer? I don't want to spend money on a deck that's going to do fine in the upper level meta but get stomped by whatever every other new schmuck is running. I had the same experience in Hearthstone with face hunter back in the day and don't want to go through that again.
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>>168893121
>They're not the best decks though unlike back in DE meta where some of the best decks were 100% complete with only golds
Bats wasn't one of the best decks in the DE. Not more than now at least. Also, which kind of DE meta did you played for not seeing legos in Storm/PtP Elf/Elana/D-Shift?
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>playing against daria
>insane early game
>playing minions for nothing
>daria turn 6
>ends up with 17 cards remaining to my 30
How am I supposed to compete? What's the point?
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>>168893438
>Bats wasn't one of the best decks in the DE

I didn't say it was.
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>Play aggro bats versus dshift

>They have ALL their magic missiles, 1 pp 1 hit spells, and piercing runes

>They get their dshift off by turn 6

sigh
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>>168893359
Aggro Blood is great for low ranks. T2 and most agressive deck in the game so you'll climb fast.
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82482
Need a concede for the daily please.
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>>168892378
Aggro Shadow needs 6 golds actually.
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>>168893532
>minions
You go back to hsg.
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>>168893359
Lower ranks (AA and below) are filled with daria and aggro decks that want fast games to climb.

Upper ranks are filled with control decks, daria, and forest OTK, aggro is less popular/effective.

Like >>168893567 said, building Aggro blood is cheap and effective. When you're at A rank, you can start thinking about building a slower deck if you encounter less aggro.
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>>168893585
Thanks Isabellu
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What will the next expansion do to counter the daria menace?
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>>168893532
>Wards
>Healing
>Board clear
>Draw to recharge
Once you bleed them they're done.
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>>168893563
I once played against a D-Shift player who passed his first 4 turns and still managed to get his OTK bullshit at turn 8. Fuck this deck and everyone playing it.
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>>168893695
Multi-effect ward, weaker ward that summon/last word more wards, heals, draw, timeless mages, weaker timeless mages that shit out other timeless mages
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>>168893716
And now I just played a game where I started second against Roach.

There is no worse feeling.
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Who the hell thought giving forest a reliable way to draw roach was anything but game breaking?
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Play your last PP, isaboob.
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>>168893789
BROTHERS!!

IN!!

BATTLE!!
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>Sandbagging in B2 with Havencraft Adept flair
Just incase you forgot who the worst players are.
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33037 pls concede
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>>168893695
Rework to class mechanic so cards can't have 0 cost anymore from spellboosting
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>>168893863
>tfw the double fontguard roachshitter concedes

>>168893875
>Want to play meme decks
>Have to sandbag while listening for podcasts for hours at a time
It hurts to live
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>>168893863

>DoD into double piercing.

:^)
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Spicy memes.
Disco dragoon is the most fun card ever.
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>>168893897
Thanks Isatits
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>>168893863
Kys dubcuck.
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>>168893695

Shadow gets their own version of Dragon Emissary.

Blood gets actual card draw.
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>>168893949
Playing Frontguard 3 times in a row against roach is fun.
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>>168893971

Spicy!
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>>168893913
I think only followers need this rule. 0-cost fate's hand is fine.
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>>168894014

With a BANG and a BOOM!
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>>168893563
Alright, I just had a game where someone set off their Daria on turn 5, but they were down to 3 health so when I emoted "I am sorry", he just conceded before I could do anything.

I feel a lot better.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>168893695
anti-burn or counter spells, more class specific heals for crafts that lack them like sword
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>>168894014
TO STAND BEFORE ME
IS FOOLISHNESS
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>>168894040

>a card that draws cards with Necromancy from your deck
>vehement complaints about how broken Death's Breath is

I can just imagine that.
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>>168894161
>Heal 1 for each follower on the board
>Aggro sword is now tier 1

>>168894040
Blood doesn't need more card draw, their card draw is great. They need a way to stay around 10 health without instantly dying, like a ward or something.
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>When the last meme hits
Feels like playing sword increases your luck and karma.
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>>168891506
So is the ultimate goal as roach to get 3 0pps , two roaches, a circle and a nature's guidance? Won't wards fuck you up?
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>>168894164
VANISH LIKE THE DJEW
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>DAO in Take two
>It's paired with Elana's

Is it worth it lads?
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How good is the prebuilt Shadowcraft deck?
I want to build an aggro Shadow deck but I'm pretty much missing everything in Shadow except for the one Cerb that I already have.
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>>168894167
>>a card that draws cards with Necromancy from your deck
>>vehement complaints about how broken Death's Breath is
>I can just imagine that.

Tyrant will be a Tier 1 deck.
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>>168894524
https://shadowverse.com/articles/detail.php?id=column-038
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>>168894284
It's the most difficult deck to pilot because often you don't have this ideal situation where you have all those cards, he plays no wards and you can burst down your opponent.

You have to get as much chip damage as you can to kill without the dream hand.
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So it's going to be one of THOSE days.
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>>168894639
I can already imagine the /svg/ posts

>ugh how could cygames make a storm 13/13 and think it's fine and balanced????
>a spell that make you ignore wards? thanks cygames
>game is literally hearthstone now
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>>168894748
I see. But how come people say it's the most consistent deck in the right hands then? And it seems like it's the case too, eg. the korean HS player who climbed to Master (iirc) with Roach and nothing else.
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love me sum aggro sword
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>>168893532
>Turn 6

Just themis it, bro.
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>>168894284

That is what the 0 pp homecoming is for.
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>>168894269

>0/5 follower
>clash: gain attack equal to enemy follower's defense, take damage by the same amount
>At the end of the turn restore health to your leader by the same amount of this follower's attack

If other crafts get power cards like AE, Cerb, ramping mechanics and other auto-includes, I don't see why Blood can't.
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>>168894831
Post your replace luck

>>168894846
Tyrant is bullshit cause it's basically be aggro or be hard stall haven. Shadows are pretty manageable now.
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>>168894846

Honestly, I don't think it would be any less broken than Roach and Daria currently are.

It would just give Shadow an OTK combo deck with basically the same level of consistency as Roach.

That would be sick.
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>>168894269
>Blood doesn't need more card draw, their card draw is great

Blood Pact and Direbond are fine for control but aggro blood needs some better card draw if it wants to compete with Daria and roaches.
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>>168894846
Inconsistency is a form of balanced. Powerful shit like Tyrant is fine, as long as it's not consistent. If they give it tutors and shit, no fucking shit it'll be broken. We don't need more fucking tutors garbage for more broken combos. Gobbu roach is already bad enough, give us fucking tutors for control.
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Bullying Vampy is fun.
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>>168895168
Aggro with draw would be cancerous and I'm saying this as someone climbing with Aggro Bats.
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>>168894831
>>168895000
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>>168894167
>>168894639
>>168894846
>>168895123
>>168895168

It's like you guys forgot about Howl or something.

Aggro Shadow builds where they just get to have Howl every match would be a lot stronger for it.

I would be using it for a spirit cycle control deck though, where I just use Howl as my only necromancy card.
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>>168895168
>The aggro archetype's weakness is running out of steam
>We need to remove this weakness
I swear, the fucking retards that post in these threads. Why fucking play anything else then? Running out of steam is the only way to beat aggro. It's the fucking reason Daria is a shit show from a design point, free hand refill for an aggro playstyle.
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81109
Can I get a concede ?
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>>168895256

Sup
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Is Rose Queen a meme?
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>>168895570
Yes. Roach is better and more flexible. It'll still kill the shit out of people though.
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>>168895570

It's slightly more viable now with Wolf but yes it's a meme.
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>>168895563
...okay? That's a tutor for a control deck. Guess what's the best control deck in the game right now? Exactly, now where's the fucking neutral tutor so other control classes are viable?
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Which of these 3 Shadow aggro decks looks the most passable? Trying to assemble one for the upcoming GranBlue event so I can get the Shadow achievements done. Got them all off game-ai.
3 looks to be all over the place, and 2 seems to favor more 4/5pp cards over 1/2pp cards. I have no experience in Shadow so I can't tell what's better than what.
Or does anyone have any lists better than these?
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>>168895653

That's why I'm saying Shadow needs a version of Dragon Emissary.
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What's the best counterpick to control shadow
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Mad Necromancer
3 PP 2/2
Fanfare: Put a random card with Necromancy from your deck into your hand.

bam, all variants of shadow are now tier 1
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>>168895672

Left is basically meta.
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>>168895713
Fluted wyrm-spire Feat. Draconification
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>>168895689
No it doesn't, not unless it excludes garbage like Khawy, Breath, Tyrant, and Mordecai from the pool. Those cards are very much balanced around their rigid mana cost and not being tutorable, they're beyond broken if they can come out earlier. Dragon's class cards are a shit show, they're nowhere near Shadow's, so Emissary is fine.
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Guys,I need your concede,please
94214
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>>168895672
left is good
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>>168895505
Guess I'll have to wait another day to replace it.
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>>168895714
As long as we get

Mad Priest
3 PP 2/3 neutral
Fanfare: Remove opponent's shadows.
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>>168895723
>>168895840
Alright, I'll use that for the event, thanks.
But seriously, Goblin?
Does Shadow not have access to a better 1pp follower?
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>>168892910
Thanks for posting that hilarious deck helped me with my missions
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Hags cant handle all the spices.
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>>168895961
>>168895505
Thanks.
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>>168895997
it's the only one left
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Another Concede request.
86417
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>>168895997
>Better
It's not about better 1 drop, it's about actually consistently getting your 1 drop on 1. 6 drop is minimum for any aggro deck, and even then they're not enough for most. You need to go for 8, and no class has that many playable 1 drops other than the very balanced Elf. That's why Goblin has been surviving for so long.
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>dont see too much Daria decks at D rank
>wonder why everyone is crying like a fag about Daria, it isnt too bad
>a few rank ups later
>Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria Daria

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM SICK OF THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT DECK

At least it feels like its only this bad at certain times. Like, when I play at late night I see FAR more Daria shitters. Its a shame I hate this deck so much at this point, because I planned to build one too when Daria wasnt this rampant as it is now.
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>>168895672
I use left but with 1 conversion, 3 strikes. I'm not sure which is better.
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>>168896047
>Blood
>Haven
How about some screenshots against Forest, Rune, Sword and other Dragons? No shit your meme combo deck shits on control Blood and Haven, any fucking combo decks shits on those, even complete jokes like PtP Blood and Rose Queen.
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>>168895714

Nano

7 PP 2/2

Fanfare: Summon your highest cost follower and activate their fanfare.
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>>168895570
It's a delicious meme.
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>>168895971
>as long as we get a card that kills Shadow
then let's get a card that adds 99 cd to countdown amulets

also a card that strips any follower of their officer/commander status, and etc etc
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>>168896118
Lads,Please.
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>>168896140
Reroll and build one of the following.

Roach OTK
Control Blood
Control Haven (pure Seraph or Sun Satan)

There, automatic wins against Daria retards til you reach AA. As a bonus, you get to make shitters mad about Haven, a dumpster class that's barely being played in high ranks.
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>>168896248
>elf child may killing satan
This is the funny part
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>>168880108
>that one pack is probably worth more than my last 20
:thinking:
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>>168896281
Haven and Sword players aren't the ones asking for mana cheat tutors. You want a "my class is now tier 0 :))" card, then the game needs a counter to your bullshit too.
>>
Who else hasn't actually had a chance to play the game properly and have been rerolling for over a day trying to get non-shit legendaries here?
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>>168896286
Thanks,cutie <3
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>>168896040
Another cheap
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>>168896469

Just get either 1 animated of a core legendary or 2 copies if non-animated.
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>>168896368
Could you post decklists for the control decks?
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>>168896469
Probably just you because most people here have been playing that rerolling is irrelevant by now.
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>>168894851
You have 9 cards in your deck that can fetch roach or be roach. Tutoring is a powerful thing in a cardgame.

Your reach is insane so you don't need a lot of chip damage to OTK your opponent. A T7 roach guidance roach roach can deal 8 without any card, and with 2 0-cost, it can go to 14, 16 with evo. That means if you're at 14-16 HP against an OTK Forest and he has 2 0-cost, you're almost already dead.

Another thing is that the cards that you play aren't bad by themselves but are crazy when played together. That doesn't only apply to Roach, Ancient Elf is also a card that has synergy. Tia and Will of the Forest have synergy too.
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Which class is the Shaman of Shadowverse?
>>
god fuck khawy
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>>168896451
I'm not the original anon, and of course they aren't asking for tutors for their shit because they already have them (yet they aren't t0)

>then the game needs a counter to your bullshit too
there are no cheap counters to countdown amulets aside from playing dirtrune either and zero counters to other mechanics like ramp so I don't get your bickering
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>>168896248
based

>>168896401
She did her bit against Luci in RoB too, qt elf
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>>168895672
>wind god
Who the fuck think this meme is still usable? She's fucking useless unless you can manage to keep a massive field every turn which is impossible in this meta if you are not Daria.
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>>168896469
I got shit legendaries, didn't even reroll just liquified them, made a daria deck and now I'm farming score all day.
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Is Tempo Forest worth it? I have 2 Tias and 2 Elves, pure roach is boring as fuck so Im thinking about crafting a few golds for a tempo forest.
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>tfw you pity concede for luna in unranked
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>>168896636
Rune
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>>168896469
Don't be too greedy, aim for 4-7 legendaries, with 3-5 that are playable. Rerolling isn't that big of a deal. I didn't reroll and I did just fine.
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>>168896768
Tempo forest is making a comeback since more people are spamming wards.
>>
What is a sleeve?
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>>168896824
It's something that covers your upper arms.
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>Turn 3 do nothing
You deserve everything you got
>>
i'm getting sick and tired of the bullshit in this game.
the devs are utterly incompetent.
>hurr duurrr let's make braindead "game ender" cards
>lmao let's make them neutral
>hurr durrrr let's create cards that give you additional turns, now that's good design
>hurrr let's completely throw out the concepts of resource management and risk for the rune archetype
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>>168896824
luna, vampy, etc
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>>168896937
ok
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>>168896040
Some cheap-ish rune memes https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-otk-runecraft-10-game-win-streak-46kuro

For dragon, https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/gamewith-otk-dragoncraft . All you actually need is 3 altered fate and 3 breath of the salamander. You use feena/gobbu to tutor your newts then drop em and altered fate for the kill. That deck list added some storm shit for chipping so you can do it with less newts and less hand cards

Storm haven's pretty cheap. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-garuda-havencraft-76-wins-out-120-matches-nameless
Elana's also pretty cheap and themis is core so it's fine if you craft it. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/gameai-cup-5on5-3rd-place-winner-deck-elana-havencraft-soratsu

Some budget aggro shadow https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/budget-aggro-shadowcraft-0

Old banner sword lists or tweaking some aggro sword lists will help you there. https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/gamewith-royal-banner-swordcraft You can replace albert's with fangblade's and decide on what you want to replace alwida's with for mega cheap or run cursed storm which is an ultra-cheap 1 gold powerhouse like you experienced.

For forest uh... Just craft 3 roaches and I dunno, do shit. They're roaches man.

>>168896937
>t.has a bullshit deck that lost to its counter
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>>168896906
>le stratosphere caballero of face hitting
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I feel like I should stop rerolling.
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>>168897127
>>168896507
Many thanks anon
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>>168896937
Neutral enders are fine. 10 mana cards can't be "stick your finger up your ass and hope you don't die :)))" fair in a game with 20 life, and every class being able to easily deal half that in a 2 card combo from hand.

Powerful expensive cards is like the only right thing the fucking game does. Last thing we fucking need is for it to become shitstone 2.0 where there isn't a single fucking playable card over 6 mana.
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>>168896770
>tfw matched against some guy who is close to rank up
>tries my best to beat him up
>>
>First ranked match ever with some shitty Haven deck for dailies
>Oh boy here we go
>Luna
>Insta-concedes
Why, though.
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>>168897175
8 legendaries of one is animated, counting as 2.5, is pretty good
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>>168897203
Okay the rune was actually more fun than cheap uh. Just look up spellboost and tempo lists and sub stuff. You wont have daria's to refill your hand but you can use the draw cards and shit to be fine.
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Do i need 3 neps for a nep deck or 2 is enough? new player here.
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>>168897175
It's a decent start anon, enjoy the game. 3x Erasmus is hilarious but it's free vials to craft what you want I guess.
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>>168897285
BANISH
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>>168897285
Sandbagging so they can play meme decks without getting constantly btfo by faggots doing dailies

>>168897328
Generally want at least 2 to play something. 3 is consistency of getting it.
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>>168897387
No I meant it was literally my first ranked match ever.

I'm in beginner 0.
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>>168897328
3 is ideal. Play the deck with 2 to see if you enjoy the deck first, it isn't a big deal to run 2.
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>>168897385
Hands off the grave, you cunt!
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>open 10 rob packs
>2 (two) albert
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>>168897432
He easily could have been a d rank. I still get beginners occasionally in C
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>>168897328
If you're going for a "stall out my ass until Nep" variant then you should have 3. If you're going for a "maybe I can kill them before I need Nep" variant, 2 is fine.
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>Haven daily
>Fuck it, queue sunsatan cause it's the only deck I have
>Get dailies done in 10 minutes due almost everyone conceding turn 2
Ok
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>>168897531
Haven's miserable to play against. I usually concede if I don't nut then go play 2 games in the same time that shit show would have took.
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>>168897328
>>168897387
>>168897502
ty very much for the reply.
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>turn 4
>8 cards in hand
>nothing to evolve.

man I hate my luck
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>>168897620
Control gonna control
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>>168897531
there's a reason cat refers to an enemy conceding to his satan deck as "mental break"

it's literal torture playing against it
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>>168897450
ty for the reply also.
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>3 Legos in 2 packs
>They're all unplayable
If I unpack a 3rd Beast Dom I won't be able to bring myself to vial her.

Post daily packs
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>>168897620
>memestema
>brick lancer

Build a better deck.
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>>168895334
Well. That was painless at least. Nothing like the 4+ games I had to do with Shadow.
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I almost lost to dshift ptp snowmen.
I had lethal 2 turns earlier but forgot I had 2 lizas in this deck and got both with my 0 cost gobus. I only needed one more roach too. I thought for sure I was done but then I top decked another roach after this.
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>>168897705
Beast dom's getting there. Soul dealer's decks are gonna be spicy next xpak. i'm sitll irked that she's basically a worse lightning behemoth
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>>168897620
What kind of deck is this even supposed to be?

Imp Lancer and Vampire Queen in the same deck...?
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I really want to stop playing against Daria
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>>168896469
I didn't even bother to reroll, I got mediocre legs but just kept playing. Got a lot better stuff after going through all the easy missions for more packs gold etc.
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>>168897531
If it's unranked I'll concede if he drops that turn 2 ward just because I don't want to spend 3 hours in one disposable match. Really irritates me when they spend more than 3 seconds to play obvious shit like cudgel on turn 4 too.
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>>168898034
>Really irritates me when they spend more than 3 seconds to play obvious shit like cudgel on turn 4 too.
Might just be because he's tabbed out.
I always start my turns like 20 seconds late because I'm busy shitposting on 4chan.
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Why does /svg/ pretend that aggro sword isn't good?
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is there a way to make roach not as retarded without directly nerfing the card?
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>>168898192
because no one really remembers that sword exists
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>>168898215
play a ward
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>>168898215
isn't feena what puts it over the top?
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>>168898192

It's literally the worst aggro deck and the most dependent on going first.
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>>168897875

so long it climbs, I don't care
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>>168897595
But then you encourage more people to play hagcraft for fast wins
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>>168897826
>tfw 3 Soul Dealers meaning I can't vial them anymore
It's a complex kind of feel
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>>168898353
>so long it climbs
>A2

You'll be okay until the middle of A3 but you're going to have a hard time from all the bricking you'll inevitably run into.
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>>168898287

>0 pp homecoming

where is your ward now, boy.
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>>168898192
secret agenda
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>>168897705
>3k dust in 2 packs
>unplayable
meanwhile I got like 2 legos in 25 packs
>>
>runes fireball granpa
Fuck that shit card and his stupid voice.
>>
>>168898695
I'M JUST A MAGE
>>
Anyone got a sample dirt rune deck?
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aggro sword is the most kino way of playing shadowverse.
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>>168898793
kys dubcuck.
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>>168898868
WHOS AS OLD AS YOUR JOKE
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>>168898868
but I play uncensored + w/ JP voices
>>
So, I played the tutorial and got my free packs. Next stop is story mode I'm guessing?

>>168898929
How much is censored in the English version? Flipping through the cards and I'm seeing a whole lot of naked loli.
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>>168898807
play aggro sword.
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>>168899026
I have runecraft mission and I don't have any darias
and I am not going to craft any darias
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>>168898979
Yes

You can do the story with the default deck, but if you feel like upgrading ->
After the 4th mission for each class you get a nice 4 pp follower that has a powerful evolve effect
Include these in your deck and you'll have a way easier time
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>>168898979
Open packs.
Finish story.
Defeat all elite AI.
Open packs again if you need stuff.
Play in unrated to get the feel of your deck.
Start laddering if you're ready.
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>>168898979
>How much is censored in the English version?

It's only Isabella's Isabellas, pic related.
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>>168898868
Is he less annoying in nip?
I'm getting kind of tired of hearing his 2 shitty lines 3 times in every second game.
>>
>soul dealer now also permanently activates vengeance

is he playable now?
>>
What is this "rakumei" meme in cat's stream?
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>>168898979
I didn't really notice anything else in uncensor aside from rune tits
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/OURGUY/
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>>168899208

i actually like the covered ones better

tight clothes just do it for me.
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>>168899223
http://usamin.love/card/timeworn_mage_levi/j_summon.wav
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>>168899208
It's weird they'd censor her when so many cards are much worse.
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>>168899271
GBF? RoB? How did he die?
>>
>>168899378
It's because they use the leaders in commercials although they also censored Prince of Darkness which is retarded, it was Satan originally but they didn't want to offend christfags.
>>
>>168899095
You forgot one thing:
Make an aggro sword deck.
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>>168899336
I prefer the dub man
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>>168899554
kys
>>
>>168899336
sounds annoying desu
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>>168899586
kys "kys dubcuck"cuck
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>>168899554
IT'S JUST, LIKE-
BURN!
>>
>>168899336
>It's even worse
I can't wait until another deck becomes the meme of the month and I don't have to hear that shit anymore.
>>
I'm real tired of Nep decks
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>>168899554
kys dubcuck
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>>168899336
literally i want to put gramps out of his misery tier voice
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95393

pls
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>ramp dragon
>play against aggro sword in AA0
>drop my t8 bahamut
>he plays fucking fangblade on curve
WHAT THE FUCK
WHO HAS FANGBLADE IN AGGRO
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>>168899336
PTSD
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>>168899773
get aggro sword'd son
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>>168898319
It's more that Gobu in general is broken and has absolutely no business being a fanfare. If she were an evo we would have absolutely NO degeneracy stemming from her save for Wildfang OTK, which isn't that strong to begin with.
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>>168899749
Thanks luna chan
>>
>>168899497
But "Lucifer" is somewhat fine. I don't understand the logic behind those localizations.

>>168899773
It was Midrange. That's how Midrange Sword is nowadays.
>>
>>168899336
Japanese voices sound so fucking bad. Just went through a bunch of them and most, especially the females, unironically sound better in english. Vania actually sounds like she has a personality while in japanese she sounds generic as fuck. Same goes for Aiela, her english voice sounds SO much better. Same goes for Luna, her english voice sounds cute as fuck without being too generic like her Japanese voice you already heard a million times.

Its too bad that Erasmus sounds like shit in englisch though.
>>
do you guys run siegfried and the 1/2 draw dragon in your ramp decks
>>
>>168898602
>odin the wolf
where is your 0pp homecoming now, boy
>>
>>168899484
Luci killed him because he's an annoying piece of shit.
>>
>>168900005

>odin the wolf with rush that died the turn it was played.
>>
>>168899960
>Same goes for Luna
Fuck no. They completely destroyed Luna in the English dub. She is not even the same character.
And I am not even a Luna pedo.
>>
>Start playing the game for the first time
>Try to do dailies
>Everything you play against is stuff you already know is a netdeck
Amazing.

Thought I could maybe have a fun match or two at the very lowest rank of the game but I guess not.
>>
>>168899960
Kys you fucking dubcuck.
>>
>>168900005
>odin a suicide mission follower with rush
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>>168899960
>same goes for Luna
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>>168900075
Don't do dailies in Ranked, unless the dailies require you to play Ranked.
>>
>>168900075
spend your 15 arena tickets before going into competitve
>>
>>168899960
Fucking banish yourself, my man.
>>
>>168900059
>She is not even the same character.
You mean if it comes to translation? Because I already heard that apparently the translation is utter shit. What got changed?
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>>168899960
is there even a limit to how retard can you be?
>>
>>168899960
I'm not sure if this bait. English dub is fucking bad for me. Just compare Frontguard Japs and English.
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>>168900159
But doesn't unranked just get me matched up against Master's players doing their dailies?

>>168900173
Already done but I can't build an aggro blood or blood ANYTHING and it seems to be impossible to do the daily like this. Top meme.
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>>168900075
How can you tell what is a netdeck or not if you just started?
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>>168900176
bys dubcuck
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>>168900058
Wolf can't die the turn it's played if there's no follower with 4 attack on board, guys.

Roachcoming isn't the be all end all strat.
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>>168900252
Because I've read the thread for some days and looked into cheap decks myself.

I've already faced a textbook aggro shadow and aggro blood for example.
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>>168900176
>>168900147
>>168900084
>>168900059
>>168899704
>>168899631
All these triggered pedo weebs.
>>
>>168899960
water fairy sounds 10x more cute in english
>>
>>168900213
Jap Luna is an innocent and playful child, the dub one sounds like a fucking annoying brat.
>>168900252
Anything that even remotely works and beats his shitty ass deck is a netdeck.
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>>168900352
>fat people are evil!
she should check her thin privilege
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>>168899960
GHOD EES ON AU SAYID
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>>168900213
Everything. She is just an innocent little girl in the Japanese dub, that doesn't understand what killing people actually means, she just wants to kill them to make them her friends.
In the English dub, they turned her into a sadist that wants to kill people for fun and then bring them in her "adventure" (this also doesn't exist in the Japanese dub).
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>>168900349
I was actually pointing out how hilarious some of the dub lines are if you interrupt their evo lines with their attack lines (common if you're like me).

It's great for Timeless as well.

JUST *yaawwwn*
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So what are you supposed to do against these new shadow decks that are built around the last word combos
I can't do as ramp dragon nothing against lurching corpse or attendant of the night
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>>168900517
play aggro sword.
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>>168900517
Play aggro blood and fuck them over turn 4.
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>>168900517
Just Odin it bro
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>>168900517
>lurching corpse or attendant of the night
you actually legit serious?
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>>168900517
neph is probably your worst match-up as ramp. just accept it and be happy its not that common
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>>168900239
>But doesn't unranked just get me matched up against Master's players doing their dailies?
No. Even if it did, you'll be seeing way less people playing Tier 1-2 decks in Unranked.
You also don't want to Rank up too much before getting your hands in a deck that is good for Ranked, otherwise you'll be stuck at A0 with something like Aggro Blood and will suffer to do your Ranked dailies.
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NEW
>>168900668
>>168900668
>>168900668
>>168900668
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>>168899484
He sacrificed himself in order to revive the who happended to be killed by Luci the previous event. A good man he was

>>168899554
good taste
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>>168900239
>Already done but I can't build an aggro blood or blood ANYTHING and it seems to be impossible to do the daily like this. Top meme.
Post your Legos/Golds
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>>168900517
>as ramp dragon
Concede.
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>>168900325
>let board open for Tia
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>D-shift loses to aggro guys
>play Aggro Sword on perfect curve
>kaleid kaleid levi piercing fire chain piercing
>no more cards
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>>168900075
I started out few days ago and I got more consistent and harder enemies in unranked than ranked.

I only faced 2 obvious sandbaggers with full tier decks out of 20+ and most were legit new or bad. Obviously people can have random legendary or two in their deck since we get so many packs these days for very little effort.
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>>168904248
The first game I played in Unranked was a win just by playing things on curve.

Meanwhile I ranked I lost 5 in a row to
- Aggro shadow
- Aggro blood (x2)
- Roach
And then one game against a deck that seemed as ragtaggy as mine that I just threw myself by missing lethal because I was tilting and just wanting to get that one win before eating dinner.
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>>168904768
Could be matchups then too, I scraped together Banner Sword from my initial stuff and most of the aggro decks felt rather easy, but it could also be that they didnt have proper lists.
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>>168899773
It was midrange and you could get tsubaki'd too leading to good 14 damage burst next turn senpai
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>>168905197
Hey, have you done your private games yet for the packs? I don't know if it's limited to playing once against the same person but we could play each other if you still need them too.
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