▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Makeup: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860 and /r/MakeupAddiction
▶Hair care: https://reddit.com/r/HaircareScience/wiki and /r/FancyFollicles
▶Skype: Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you.
Using the scipy and librosa, it's
spec = numpy.flipud(scipy.ndimage.imread('spec.png')[:,:,0])
sig = librosa.istft(numpy.exp((255.-spec)/50.))
scipy.io.wavfile.write('out.wav', 16000, sig)
Matlab probably has similar functions built in.
Yeah. A spectrogram is defined as log(|STFT(signal)|), where STFT is the short-time Fourier transform. The STFT is an invertible transform, so you can reconstruct the original signal up to a phase discrepancy.
Depends. If you look like pic related, probably not. But you can usually work with what you have and come up with a style that fits your body.
Alright bitchessss what do you think an ideal weight is for someone who's 5'6", assuming they're not a weight-lifting manlet?
Maybe not a femboy per se, but you can make yourself less brutish. There are some pretty sexy slim/effeminate guys with square jaws and prominent chins. You might not be prepared to lose weight (if necessary) though.
>at work at gas station
>see /femgen/ get out of his car in a scoopneck sweater
>"oh boy here it goes"
>carrying a fuckhuge femwallet
>pants that fit perfect
>modestly styled hair
>no cosmetic changes to face, just a kawaii as fuck guy in andro clothing
>get called outside to a pump
>see purse in his front seat that matches wallet
>get back inside
>45 year old black female manager
>"hrm, he was cute."
Your weight is entirely irrelevant to the way you want to look.
Unless you're huge and trying to shed 1-2 full lbs weekly, just go by what shape you're in and what shape you want.
The bad part is that it's hard to lose weight healthily once you're already skinny. Exercise is your only way out. Better grab those running shoes, boy. And squat. Don't forget to squat.
Ugh well that makes me feel fat af... You teach me?
>1/3rd are trannies
>1/3 are future trannies
>1/3rd are femboys who will eventually accept ending up as masculine
Seems about right.
Can you? Does this look like femboy potential?
True dat. I'm 135 and yeah I look relatively thin but I could stand to lose like 10-15. My upper body is a bit too muscular for my liking (used to work out like a moron a few years ago... was 155 at one point because of it).
Gotta get on that calorie deficit and energy output.
I'm not claiming he looks super feminine, but he doesn't look bad and could easily pull off a somewhat feminine style.
anyone who learns to do hair, skin, and fashion well enough can pull off a feminine style in the vast majority of cases. the question is whether or not they will look good/andro in doing so.
your pic doesn't even do it well. side-angled photo to hide shoulders, lighting to avoid the brow-ridge shadow and mask the stubble...ugh. you can see that this dude had smile lines to begin with, but they're moisturized and will no doubt reemerge within a decade.
>Salty enough to rant nonstop about how taking meds to avoid aging and turning into an ape makes you a tranny
Seriously, I've said I'm a guy, never wanted to be anything other than a boy and just like looking fem
It's your fault for insisting that not wanting to look masc automatically equates to wanting to be a woman.
oh yeah, just move the goalpost, that makes you correct.
if you honestly think you can manage to look like a femboy when your face looks like it's wearing a fucking norman casque you're beyond delusional
>tfw ask bf to open thing
>he raises an eyebrow
>he chuckles and snatches it out of my hands
>opens it without looking
>hands it back without breaking smug eye contact
also geez gir-umm, guy get a grip
>>wanting to be the weaker sex
be we already are!
the rest is pretty disgusting, genetic females have a handful of biological issues, hormonal rollecoaster alone makes content with being born a boy
>he's a tranny
>in a general for femboys
>he got driven out of /mtfg/
>he gives his opinion on issues not relevant to him
>he refreshes the thread constantly
>he does it because he drove away all the friends and family he had in his pathetic life
>he hides posts he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an autism fit
>he considers a reply to his post to be the best part of his day
>he votes in all the strawpolls
>he will never be taken seriously because he's just a freak
>he will never be cute enough to be mistaken for a girl
>he will never have a life free of cosmetic surgeries
>he will never have a qt boyfriend
>he will never have any worth at all
Haha holy shit, fuck /mtfg/ at the moment, it's a total shitshow. Mind if I chill here and pretend to just be a nature-cheating cute boy for a bit? Anything's better than being lumped in with folks like that general.
We need to BUILD A WALL around /femgen/ to keep the dirty trannies out, and to keep the cute boys in.
Is it possible to continue to identify as a femboy as you get older, or are my choices manning up (not happening) or identifying as a transgirl and becoming a hon (pls no)? [Lets assume that suicide is not an option.]
you just turn into a handsome guy that looks much younger. I feel like men are aging slower, its just 90% never bother to take care about skin and kill themselves with overworking and booze
I feel as though this is pretty much the case. You're probably not going to get mistaken for a girl anymore when you're 35, but you're going to look a lot younger than other 35 year-old men, assuming you don't lead a destructive and poisonous lifestyle.
I've had sex with a guy who was probably a femboy before and nearly 40 (I'm mtf).
Like, not hrt but obviously careful about himself, full body laser and amazing skincare.
As a guy he was hot as fuck is what I'm saying but in a "looks like a handsome 20 something". So if it's for you it's neat.
Statistically, you're going to have a worse time as a fully transgender person than as a fem or androgynous boy. Maybe experiment with gender expression and see how you feel after a while?
What might this proper diet be? I've yet to perfect it, but metamucil is really helpful, even though it's super expensive.
I find it gross too. Butt stuff in general is gross by concept. The sensation is great, but you just know -things- are coming out of you.
I guess I kinda just do the whole whistling ignorance thing and pretend it's not bad.
if I want a more feminine body, but I don't wish to transform from mtf, how do I go about besides my diet and exercise? should I somehow get some pills? I'm still new to a bit but I shave my legs, keep fit and eat well, is it mostly styling? I'm not interested in having breasts if that's possible for pills. Thanks.
Breasts are pretty feminine just so you know.
Having a period and being physically weaker are both fixable through medicine, far more easily than it is to fix having features made all manly and disgusting by testosterone. And in general it's more acceptable for AFAB people to be androgynous than it is for AMAB. The only thing is that having a vagina would be weird, but that's really just because I've never had one - I don't really like having a penis that much and would probably be happy with neither.
>went all the way to 9 months HRT without any real negative side effects (Tits are small enough to hide easily)
>decide to jerk off this morning
>Only cum 3 little drops
Beginning of the end. This is it lads i'm staring into the abyss
>not being unable to ejaculate anything after two weeks beyond clear fluid that smells like pussy
>not only being able to get off from anal, perineum rubs or a vibe after more than a month
nice sugar pills you got there, testosterbeast
andreja did everything any tranny could possibly want and she has model genetics,
BUT even she could not deny nature and male genetics
her shoulder to hip ratio and face is still male
But is cute as fuck, even after becoming a girl. Then again I'm solely into guys and andro so I don't know if that's a good thing.
Think it's cause Pejic used only anti androgens and no E till in 20s, that means bone growth continues.
are you the guy rooming with the couple and you're really good friends with the girl and the guy kept hitting on you when she wasn't around and anon jokingly called you a homewrecker and then you disappeared
Bring on summer so I can wear cute shit again and reveal my gangly legs to the world
I love this, especially the hair
she's still a model no doubt,
but she'll never reach the heights andrej did in 2011
she's post op trans female
she's no longer a femboi
it's obvious she can't compete in the same league as top cis fem models
don't get me wrong, I like her and hope the best for her
I wrote in short sentences
so you can follow along
Used to be femmy a month ago, but I got my hair fucked up and I'm trying to be more masculine because I've got myself a boyfriend and I'm the man of the relationship!
P-please ignore the hashed out dick. How'd I do?
why killself? you could then switch to TRT and become a manly man!
actually fuck knows what future holds, we might see something amazing or utterly terrifying in few decades, like effortless mind swapping and genetically engineered dummy bodies
what a time to live!
>but have disgusting vascular and rough arms
>no interest in ever working
I did uni thing too
Oddly enough, it wasn't until I started working that I really felt alive
and I'm far from the outgoing type
but you need money to live in a decent area where you won't be beat up for being a femmy guy
some decades ago you wouldn't get mones at all and now it has become about as easy as getting aspirin, the progress is quite mind-blowing, just hold on and get some mood medications to get you through
good question, I've low bodyfat and veins are very prominent, according to sports forums you cant get rid of it unless you get fat
maybe anti-varicose meds could help
>go to try on shoes
>remember that I'm a hundred feet tall
my feet are the only part of my body that I hate
>if you didn't pass before hrt,
you aint gonna pass with it
just do best w what you have
I was in sephora and came across a total femboy
makeup was pro level and outfit was unreal
guy was kinda chub and about 5'10" and still more fem then my little twinky ass
>if you didn't pass before hrt,
>you aint gonna pass with it
It is possible to pass without hrt in young age but eventually testosterone will make you manly and ugly. There is no other way to prevent it except of hormones.
what the fuck are you on about? mtf gen is that >>> way. passing doesn't matter here
there are plenty of older men who age gracefully. the term silver fox exists for a reason. for us smoothbois, our looks won't fade until looks don't fucking matter. men and women alike start to look like shit when they're 60. at that age, hopefully you've found someone who will love you even with your wrinkles and you're not a cunt and have good friends.
/femgen/ is for men who look like boys who act kinda girly, not mtf denialists and rejects looking for company and compliments.
You. Fuck off.
I started posting here 2 weeks ago. It was fun. Then this memeposting bullshit happened and the threads are just full of cunts moping about not passing as mtfs. Why? This isn't that fucking thread.
/femgen/ is denial: the general.
so I suppose the fountain of youth is something only lgbt knows about and the rest of the world is oblivious to it?
truth is hrt effects are subtle and that's the meaning behind "if didn't pass with hrt, then you won't pass with it"
Twice random people tried to beat me and threw rocks at me just because they thought I was a girl (from very far) and then realize I wasnt.
Many times people spat at me on college, outside college to be exact.
You don't have to present as female if you take HRT, the point is to eliminate depression from being a hairy, balding square jawed fuck.
If you transition now that won't happen. You repress it, mid life crisis, you start thinking "I'm too old to care what anyone thinks" and do it and that is how God created hons.
>If you transition now that won't happen. You repress it, mid life crisis, you start thinking "I'm too old to care what anyone thinks" and do it and that is how God created hons.
What makes you think im not old and ugly already?
how about we meet halfway and those people don't try to shove that shit into a thread that wanted nothing to do with it, save the rejects who are fucking this thign up in the first place
im look kinda feminine I think
i dont have feminine manners or voice tho
im 23 and a half
I always get thing shouted at me, but I'm better than those lowlives~
not so lucky, my face is ugly as fuck and i live in shit country where I wont find a job as a tranny, and I will get beaten often in street, and i wont make enough money to afford hormones
Lol okay supreme guardian of femgen. Clearly exactly how everyone thinks and what's best for them.
When you're on the verge of suicide and you realize taking HRT doesn't mean you have to try to convince everyone you're a girl, you discover how close-minded trutrans and trufems are.
They're not hons, they're just not pretty. There's a difference.
Pic is of a russian tranny who got bored of long hair and cut it, regretted it and growing it back again.
happened to me on several occasions while i was walking around, both during the day and at night
in london no less
i guess i do look completely fucking gay
usually people shouting threats from cars
I've gotten some pretty disapproving looks from tough-guy middle-aged men. Most elderly are so oblivious they just think I'm a qt girl. Young people typically don't give a shit though unless they're high school drop out tier. Surprisingly no one has ever really sad anything to me other than "Faggot" from across the street, but even then that's pretty damn rare. It's mostly just like "bro was that a guy or a girl" as they walk by.
>Starry sky over me and moral laws...?
quote from Immanuel Kant
It feels great, but then you feel bad because you know you're not good enough for them, no matter how much they tell you otherwise. You've seen the way they look at you when they think you're not paying attention. You know that they know they could do better.
I'm probably going to fuck it up at some point, and go right back to being sad and fat. This cycle will continue, as it has, until I finally nut up and kill myself, or I get my stomach stapled after having to have one of my diabetic legs cut off because I bury my sadness in unhealthy things.
it will be really hard, and dont expect to do it quickly or live on 700cal/day, you need a solid regime that you could realistically maintain
not sure if /fit/ has threads for that but you shuold check
and since we love cheating nature with magic pills here ...
Clenbuterol for extra burning
Sibutramin to kill your appetite
on the hormones?
also let me post a more specific question
what should I do to maintain a feminine figure?
Currently I have emo faggot long straightened hair and a fairly slim figure along with being 5'3, but I'm wondering how to maintain smooth skin, smooth and great looking hair.
I'm also curious how to get an hour glass figure without doing hormones because I'm not interested in going mtf and growing breasts. What do? I'm new here so I apologize for completely disregarding other threads and such
>wants to be cute with smooth skin, nice hair, and look cute forever
Just get on mones, man. Don't eat, and you won't grow any boobs. Enjoy your eternal youth and beauty.
that's not from what i heard about mones, again I'm fairly new to the whole subject but I've always kept a femboyish charm and hit lucky in the gene pool, but want to develop it a bit more
Do whatever you want, man. But you're shafting yourself in the late-game if you don't get on mones now. Dodge the gay-death, take mones.
Not on hormones, just a typical blonde femboii
I moisturise, like it's good to have a moisturising routine. I use toner, then apply the moisturiser~
My face scrub is also cleansing.
andro girls are cute, and same goes for ftms,
but they just don't have the male features (brow, jawline, shoulders...) to pull it off
thanks for the advice!
I'll invest a bit into moisturising and start working out a little, along with eating more healthy. Seems like that's the only "natural" way to get a femboy body without doing hormones. Any other tips or advice is much appreciated from anyone.
yes! that's exactly what I'd want. But what do you mean by "eat"?
obviously i gotta eat when i gotta eat not sure what you mean by that
Awww, you could have had a nice pair of bewbs.
Yeah, people lying about hormone effects are kinda extra shit. Fem boys exercising their bodily autonomy in a way they understand is good. Them being tricked into it is cruel. You can't weigh the pros and cons of a treatment when someone is obscuring one or both from you!
Naw, wasn't in the genes for me. If you actually want growth, they say you only get to a size that's 2 cup sizes smaller than your closest female relative. My whole family are b-cups...
I was considering taking mones for two or three months and stopping there, what would happen afterwards if I just ended it early just for a more feminine figure and face?
It's a tricky situation though that's for sure. Each case is pretty individual so it's more of a do it at your own risk. Some people don't grow them, some do. Example: I have an mtf who is pretty skinny (115lbs or so) and she has B cups now after a year of HRT. Then there is another girl I know who still has her boy-chest after almost 2 years of HRT. There is no telling what will happen if you risk it.
That's a myth. It's a convenient shorthand, but breasts are not always so predictable. I'm going to have the largest breasts in two generations by year's end if these things don't stop growing so aggressively. I am certainly going to be the equal of every direct relation.
I'm trans, so yay! But also ow, and be aware that breasts are not going to obey folk wisdom universally.
It's usually best just to start off with AAs, and not take the estrogen if you don't want any seriously lasting effects. AAs will keep you from masculinizing any more than you already have, and give you some time to think about it.
I can't say I'm not envious. I'd do anything to feel the pain of breast growth again.
Depends on how you want to go about it, I guess. There are lots of ways to get hormones. You can either get them by going to a therapist and having them recommend you to an endocrinologist, which is though of as the "legitimate" way to get on hormones. Or you could go to an informed consent clinic, or buy online from places like inhousepharmacy or alldaychemist, to skip the therapy.
>could make you sterile
You mean, absolutely certainly will make you sterile after a time, right?
I've heard that you can always the hormones to keep from that happening though. Going to bank sperm before starting is a choice as well.
Oh, I've been running/jogging for about three months now. Don't have an issue with doing it, I quite like the time to reflect and meditate. Time was (about three years ago) I was really good about keeping up, but I was eating/drinking way more than I was burning at the time. In the last eight weeks or so I started really cleaning up the diet, so here's hoping that helps.
You want one better than 100 pounds? About four years ago I managed to knock sixty off, and I ended up about what I am now. It was disgusting.
I'm very hesitant to go to /fit/, because I really have no interest in lifting, and we all know that's all /fit/ gives a shit about. Maybe if I can find a cardio thread... But thanks for the drug info, Anon. You're a real pip.
Seriously, both of you, thanks for the kind words. You have no idea how much I hate looking at myself in the mirror.
>>TFW the 'don't eat don't get tits' strategy was working wonderfully for over a year
>but you got tired of always feeling hungry and wanted baby fat for face and hips
>but the extra fat goes to give you tits you don't want
Seriously I'm glad about the people thinking you're cute thing, I just wish it didn't come with breasts. Wouldn't have ever gotten them if I'd stayed underweight.
Maybe dieting and cycling hormones will get rid of them.
Not that Anon, but most likely not. Unless he got really lucky and is totally flat, then he'll be showing enough to be noticed. I knew someone who played off her hrt bobs as fat for a long time before coming out... Not sure if that'll help.
then maybe you shouldn't try to cut your calories by 75% like a fucking retard. this is most important for useless fatasses - find a sustainable amount. do a 500kcal deficit per day and lose a pound a week. you don't get it overnight you lazy instant-gratification piece of fat shit. if you feel good about it after a while, then you can try running a bit larger of a deficit
and you have to keep up your lifestyle for as long as you want to remain a normal weight. you don't "diet" and then be done with it
>tfw getting lewd in front of the mirror
>tfw humping pillow, stroking my rainbow thigh highs, dragon dildo in my butt
>tfw getting off on my own girlish moans
>play with hrt-nipples
>cum hands-free almost instantly
>lick some of the clear girlcum off the mirror
k so it's not what I started all this for but at this point I think I'm ready to admit I've basically become my own gf desu
Do I have a feminine-looking ass? Most of the girlfriends I've had have gone out of their way to tell me that I do.
Not the anon that asked, but thanks cappa <3
I disregard the spatula it gives you since it's useless, I rub the cream on the >>totally dry<< hair - thick and evenly with my hands, wash my hands straight away, use my phone's stopwatch and wait for seven to nine minutes depending on the area, then wash it all off by laying in a bath of fairly warm water. Your hair will congeal and fall out effortlessly. You might have to rub it off gently though, especially with your leg hair.
You might get very slight burns but if you have moisturiser you'll be completely fine.
Cleanse, exfoliate, moisturize. Twice a day. If you get acne, use a cleanser with benzoyl peroxide or salicylic acid (you may have to try both to see which works for your skin). If you're outdoors a lot, use sunscreen.
They're not that big. I have to wear a binder at work because im not allowed to wear a jacket or sweater, but everywhere else i just wear really baggy sweaters. At home i probably wont even bother to wear a shirt underneath since nobody's going to say anything if they think i have boobs
Been reading last thread on the subject of SSRIs >>5703894
and oddly I've had rather positive experience. I loved the wild dreams, I had amazing lucid dreams (though it messed my sleeping patterns and some days I would sleep very little)
I mixed with Es and alcohol - it was hugely fun, though it lowers the effects of E I didn't even know it, until I read about it. I was just less fucked up person in the room and felt fairly fresh day after.
I guess my depression was pretty bad, I felt down all the time and nothing was fun, even fapping felt dull and unfullfiling.
But after some time on ADs Iv got to have the best experience ever - I would get hugely turned on from a single picture and having harder time to reach climax only made it better, it was like edging taken to the next level. And most amazingly I felt euphoric and happy after, no post-orgasmic disappointment. It was about as good as drugs.
I'm unable feel like that anymore.