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Butch dyke thread: >>5681569
Old thread was better
Kill
>>5682516
I don't know why you're so mean.
>>5682520
'cause I'm a B I T C H
>>5682522
noh
>>5682522
Why are you dragging drama into a new thread? Are you this desperate for attention?
Good night /mtfg/
>tfw xsmall is too tight around your shoulders but small is too big.
It's impossible to find clothes that fit
>>5682541
>tfw I would be a small but shoulders make me have to wear a large
>>5682538
Good morning Kuppycake
>>5682546
What how big are they? That sounds comically disproportionate.
I love Zizek. Anybody have rare audio of him speaking? I've seen and heard hours of stuff.
What are going to do on this wonderful morning you filthy meatbags?
>>5682581
Walking to work right now
Kill me please
Fuck! I missed the butch dyke edition.
Good morning. Does anyone else's voice go a little deeper after they have sex, drink alcohol, or smoke? Mine does. I find myself talking aloud to get it in a suitable range. Guessing my neighbors think I'm a nut if they can hear me through the walls.
>>5682581
feel alive, hopefully.
>tfw started as a 8/10 attractive guy
>tfw pig-fucking-ugly as a girl
euthanasia for trans when
>>5682581
Moving back to my grandparents house to dodge homelessness. I keep telling myself it's not a step backward..
I'll finally have food though. Can you imagine? I get to eat something that isn't rice or beans!
>>5682588
Enjoy work
>>5682600
Better than being homeless
Want to buy black over knee socks because it would go well with a dress I have, but mtfg has convinced me they're AGP.
Wat do
>>5682581
i just got up and im making coffee and a bagel
1st for remove kebab
>>5682600
Good luck with all that. Could end up being a rewarding experience for you all.
>>5682581
Headed to the library to read and write until the sun goes down. I don't have to study too hard but if I get it done now then it will completely be off my mind later :) Trying not 2 be gigantic procrastinatorrrrrr
>>5682611
buy them anyway because PC's come with AGP standard on the motherboards because it's 2016
>>5682606
>enjoy work
No
>>5682611
Normies don't know about meme socks irl. I rock them in the fall semi often and hear nothing but compliments.
>>5682611
I just wear black leggings with everything because they look good and feel good.
>>5682620
not mine :')
>>5682581
today I have to decide my fate, move in a rented room in laguna beach and work shit jobs to stay alive or stay with mom and go back to school.
>>5682631
or 3.) neither just continue to play the worlds loudest violin for yourself
>>5682622
I won't enjoy my day at work either.
Working on stupid bowl day sucks
>>5682635
I can't, my parents are totally finally divorced and step dad is out of my life and state on the 20th so I have to either move into a smaller place with my insane mom or live in the room I rented in orange country.
>>5682642
but you're doing it right now.
So the weekend is almost over. How was your weekend /mtfg/? What are you plans for the week?
>>5681561
this is a depressing thread
>tfw started at 20
>tfw will never have a satisfying or happy life
>>5682659
It was good! Stayed out late on Friday drinking with friends and grinded on some straight guys who had no idea, lol. Hung out with ex yesterday and did some shopping with her. It's silly but we almost constantly make eachother laugh. We watched Peep Show at her place and she wanted me to stay but I can't get involved again for the wrong reasons.
This week I plan on attending my classes and doing what I need 2 do to pay bills.
I need to shorten my replies, fuvk.
Tell me about your week/weekend? :)
>>5682672
My weekend was pretty good. Had a friend visiting from down south, so everyone got together for that on Saturday night which was pretty gucci. I had a pretty bad day today, just feeling really shit about myself, but I'm better now, so :thumbs:. I have Monday off work,I've got speech pathologist, 2nd laser treatment and psych, all in one day. So that is pretty crazy, but I'm looking forward to it.
>>5682660
This whole thread is bullshit by people who aren't even trying.
>>5682700
I've been trying, trying for you :)
>>5682696
Cool. I'm glad you feel better. Does a speech pathologist make your vocals more femme? If so, I'm jealous.
>>5682704
I have no idea. I've only seen them once and we didn't really do any training. It was all measuring my vocal range and stuff (Which apparently I have a good vocal range but maybe she was hugboxing me). She will give me actual training stuff and advice tomorrow. The first session was more of a consultation/analysis.
>>5682702
Maybe not you, but fuck. You're just starting and listening to retarded cis memesters who would love nothing more than to think their sick, distorted understanding of biology is some sort of god-given truth.
The only magic hrt does is on your body and dysphoria. It won't make you not depressed if you are, and it won't put your life on the rails alone.
>>5682711
>hugboxxing vocal range
lol?
if you can hit the note she wanted, you can speak in a female pitch. that's just science, son.
>>5682715
I didn't speak a 'female' note. She just asked to say things like 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa', 'nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' and 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' for as long as I could, slowly increasing volume and pitch as possible in my natural (male) voice. She just said I had really good results for range. I still naturally have really masculine voice so maybe she was just saying I had potential because get clients, get dosh.
>>5682711
>hugbox
>range
You can't hugbox with a tuner.
>>5682660
I started in earnest at 35. And it looks like I'm headed towards a kind of life I never even imagined. Certainly a lot better than where i was when I started out.
>>5682714
Uh wat....?
>>5682746
idk dude, I slept two hours
Anime girls.
>>5682642
I stood up for you last night, people said you were as bad as Chris Chan but I was like no way.
>>5682737
all very well and good if you don't have absolute shit-tier genetics like some of us
who /bruises easily on hrt/ here?
>>5682765
you, judging by your ego.
>>5682768
Yeah, my ego and hubris is killing my life. I just wasn't prepared for the social downgrade being trans does to a person.
>>5682770
you can be a tolerable person if you work towards it, puffnips.
>>5682752
>>5682774
I hate work, I don't know why but work actually seems like torture. I wish I could afford a life coach to follow me and make me do stuff and make sure I am not slacking off.
>>5682565
nope. but I love him too.
What is the least painful method of suicide? Is there a consensus?
>inb4 'old age'
HRT stops male pattern baldness, right? Im not sure if im actually going bald but im fucking terrified of it.
>>5682796
suspension drop hanging, if you do it right you will pass out 30 seconds or less and die in 5
>>5682802
Correct, anon :)
>>5682809
taking that long to pass out feels like it'd trigger the panic response, if I take strong sleeping pills so that I'm unconscious when I fall that should still work, right?
i'm kind of in shock still from some recent events
mtfg in the most autistic way ever got me the best bf i could ever dream for
>>5682822
hanging is literally the most variable way to die ever and is most of the time horribly painful
coming from someone who DID try to hang themselves and was left choking for what felt like forever.
do yourself a favor and make a suicide machine
get some basic crafting skills and rig up a stand with shotguns pointing at various vital spots that shoots them all at the same time, and have one aimed at the back of your head, brainstem level
rig it so the head level one goes off a fraction before the other ones, they'll follow and destroy your heart. lungs, ect
>>5682825
yea?
>>5682835
well ok
i just dont want someone else to wind up with brain damage like me for just wanting to end their suffering
>>5682834
I was worried your first point might be the case...
guns seem like they'd be even more painful though? would sleeping pills really not make the former easier??
>>5682844
no, sleeping pills will just make you wake up in a pool of vomit and you'll need your stomach pumped
a shotgun blast to the brainstem won't hurt, and if it does it'll be the briefiest pain ever
making a stand to put several on and aiming at the brain plus other organs is just an idea of mine i'm working on creating for myself
i don't want to slip up again
you should either not kill yourself or kill the fuck out of yourself. you can't go back once you pick one
>>5682839
yeah
literally got the best bf ever from shitposting and deciding to chase him when i saw his post
and now im cured of the transbian disease
>>5682844
double barrel to the reptile brain at a slight upwards angle should take care of it. i hope. ive already designed such a device on paper, all i need is some pipe to build it
>>5682865
you live close by?
>>5682874
i don't think sleeping pills work like that
if you want to be knocked OUT you'd need be sedated dude
>>5682796
Don't know, for my latest attempt, I chose the most protracted and exacting method: terminal starvation and dehydration. Got pretty close to death. The good thing about it is that you get a lot of time to think about what you're doing, and because of that, it can't be dismissed as an impulsive gesture like most other methods. I think it's part of why I made such a strong impression on the shrinks here. The head psychiatrist keeps talking about my terrifying willpower to everyone she shows me to.
>>5682869
yeah he just made me cum
>>5682887
oh wow, congrats anon =]
>>5682865
how does this work, i havent met anyone who could cure mine but good on you that you have!
>>5682784
>I wish I could afford a life coach to follow me and make me do stuff and make sure I am not slacking off
but you'd just shit on their advice and say you know better and trying is too hard
>>5682923
i mean, i get that too, but ive just never been attracted to guys in person. idk maybe i should just look harder for a gf
>>5682940
just become your own gf :^)
>>5682784
That's because work IS torture.
>>5682863
I actually dreamt of owning a gun today, I remember thinking about why I would own a gun or who would even give one to me in my current state.
>>5682948
how can i impregnate myself? i need more science to give me a womb.
tfw dont know if ill ever have a family of my own or forever be alone :c
>tfw u thought u might be able to get a vagina by moving to canada and getting free healthcare but u found out that's not going to work and now u are going to be stuck with a gt forever and its terrible
>>5682962
>forever
Nothing, good or bad, lasts forever. You'll get SRS sooner or later, don't worry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtIuFToHwUI
>tfw you will never pass and you're a disgusting mess
>tfw sister is coming over to help me do my hair up really fancy for a date
God I love having two sisters. I feel sorry for you girls without sisters. Biggest source of suport and instruction in my transition. I would be so lost without them.
>>5682995
i know this feeling too anon
>>5682996
>tfw my sister is basically boymode and asexual and not very good with femininity
She's a total bro, and I love her
>>5682865
I got the best gf ever from shit posting too. Shit posting is the best way to find true love
>>5682962
lol bitch
>>5683011
My little sister is basically your sister cept shes also gay. Older sister is suoer feminine and loves to hrlp me find clothes and make me all pretty.
Even when we were kids she'd dress me up as her little sister. I fucking love her so much. Id gladly take a bullet for her.
>>5683012
*farts*
>>5682511
Žižek is da man!
>>5683029
n o
>>5683029
i w i s h
>>5683036
its okay anon, we can be disgusting pieces of shit together
>all this sappy family talk
>>5683026
>Id gladly take a bullet for her.
meanwhile, i got to be abused by my brother, who grew up into that same kind of extroverted sociopath that normal people love
So I went for a long run today and didn't forget to lube up my balls beforehand.
Makes post-run recovery so much more pleasant.
>>5682631
Move out, obvs. I haven't been here in a year, and if you don't emancipate yourself you'll never make progress
>>5683055
masturbating?
>>5683047
Have you also not been gendered female in 3 years and is a pig disgusting neet?
>>5683052
Im sorry about that anon I can't imagine how hard that must be
>>5683055
>lube up my balls
wut?
>>5683052
While it's no excuse it must be tough when your brother turns out to be a pathetic tranny.
>>5683064
pig cute neet :3
>>5683064
i... im just starting, but i have an intense fear ill end up worse that now.
im sorry for you not being gendered correctly. i am a pig disgusting neet though
>>5683084
where you from?
>>5683080
You slather your balls and the insides of your running gear so there won't be any friction leading to irritation. It's like butt secks, you even use vaseline.
>>5683090
What torment? Time to man up nigga. It's not like you have anything to loose.
>>5683088
denmark, you?
>>5683082
No ;_;
I'm transpassing tier.
>>5683084
>whining when just starting out
pls
>>5683089
thats a good tip
>>5683070
Yep, now do it!
How's your transition going otherwise?
>>5682995
same
life isn't worth living, I have no hope left
>>5683089
>vaselilne for buttsex
>>5683089
Look at those man shoulders
>>5683089
that sounds uncomfortable as fuck, gross
>>5683103
Oh come on anon. With all those ugly hons (some of them posting in this general) leading happy lives why would you give up?
>>5683108
I meant that you use lube to get rid of friction.
>>5683111
Sexy ain't it?
>>5683097
but im really scared anon. i dont even know who or what i am. all i know is im a failure
>>5683035
*sniff*
>>5683119
>man shoulders
>sexy
Sure if you like men
>>5683119
because the entire problem is that I don't feel comfortable with my body and living in it is like torture
if it was as simple as just flicking a switch in your brain to not minding that anymore then why would any of us transition at all?
>>5683121
sounds pretty familiar ;)
What are the earliest effects of taking hormones and at what dose/etc? Is there somewhere I can get info on this? I want to just take hrt for fun and for fetishist reasons.
But I dont wanna have to spend loadsamoney of dollars over the course of several years just to have minimal effects.
>>5683094
>Time to man up nigga
what? no
i'm here for a reason
>It's not like you have anything to loose.
i don't have anything i want to gain by being nice to him
>>5683133
as in you know me or that this is common?
if the latter, how do i make it though it?
>>5683132
All women have insecurities. Yours are worse because of dysphoria. There's a point where they stop being real.
All trans women have some insecurities, most have trouble believing they pass normally for a long time.
>>5683121
Just don't turn out like me and you'll be fine.
>>5683128
This girl is my 10/10 and has my goal body. Shes my rock climbing role model.
>>5683117
You lube up, you put on that tight running gear, you look 1000% sexier. Guranteed.
>>5683128
That girl is super hot anon. Do you even know who that is?
>>5683132
You will never feel comfortable with your body hence all this shit. But you can come to terms with it. Shape it into something you might find acceptable.
>>5683145
He is never going to respect you until you show some teeth.
>>5683155
how did you turn out more specifically?
i think im a lost cause already though
>>5683138
>liking athletic women
They're just pseduo men :^)
>>5683152
Pretty much this. YMMV, though. I feel 100% secure about my passing, but I have BDD that goes up to 11. People roll eyes when I complain about my face and talk about my surgery plans.
>>5683149
as in it sounds like me, if I knew I wouldn't be here.
>>5683162
Climbers look great.
>>5683166
A manly man after 3 years of hrt
>i think im a lost cause already though
Probably not unless you're old or have shit stats.
>>5683165
i don't want his respect
i want to be left alone
>>5683165
>But you can come to terms with it. Shape it into something you might find acceptable.
tried that- hrt, corset training...
all hairstyles look bad on me because I have a man's face
makeup or female clothes just makes me look like a fucking joke
nothing works when you've got the bottom 2% tier of genetics
>>5683177
Being in shape and pushing yourself is not a soley masculine trait. It shows dedication to your body and is attractive to people who value those traits.
Being able to endure lasting pain is a distinctly human trait. I want to show others that I am a human and not just a creature that picks the easiest path.
Where's Elanna I need someone to flirt with
>>5683182
That ain't happening. He smelled blood in the water.
>>5683177
I spent considerable amount of time watching girls run and I assure you those asses are not flat. Would gymnasts be more to your liking?
>>5683189
Bullshit. Post pic before I berate you more.
>>5683178
Stop lying about yourself lainanon.
>>5683210
Her vidya skills scream manly man to me.
there is a man sleeping on my sidewalk with a can of beer in his hand and a case of bud light as a pillow
>>5683210
I'm not though.
>>5683223
Haven't you said you pass as an ugly girl? Still counts.
>>5683222
pls don't disturb me. it's comfy out hern
>>5683222
same
>>5683227
oh are you having fun this mardi gras season at least?
>>5683225
Other people have said that but ugly girls don't look like men.
>tfw I shouldn't have been born in the first place
>>5683236
you are ugly. mainly on the inside. you're just a disgusting person overall.
>>5683242
That's what I'm certain of about myself. I just hope someday I'll be able to see the beauty others see in me...
>>5683242
Only on the outside tbhon but thanks for your wrong opinion bro.
>>5683236
You've said that about yourself.
People have said that you were full of shit about it.
>>5683260
Full of shit about what?
Passing yes.
>>5683263
Finally you admit you're full of shit about your claims of not passing, good.
Considering you've never, ever claimed to pass, "full of shit about passing" doesn't mean what you want to make people believe in your current nonsense.
>>5683222
Livin da life
>>5683269
I think it's just the pics though, no one who has seen me irl would gender me female tbhon.
>>5683274
>mado will never cut off one of your fingers then stroke your hair while you are crying and bleeding all over the floor.
Good morning mtfg~
>>5683274
im gonna tell him you said that.
do I pass yet?
>>5683278
Post cute pic plox
>>5683290
Grutal. There would be biteing, cutting of fingers probably less so.
>>5683299
Good mornings!
>>5683301
All he needs is sum acid
>>5683301
u gon get raep
>tfw you realize how pointless a concept like passing really is
>>5679943
looks like somebody forgot to take their meds...
>>5683299
heya
>>5683305
not even close lol. clocked just from the thumbnail
>>5683318
>castle
he'll just siege the castle!
>>5683316
idk, maybe im just fine with looking like a cute trap on hormones and i just dont care as much as i did before hrt. I'm kind of just over it, some people call me cute, so I'm happy.
>>5683305
no, good hair but you need to change your face shape
FFS or something
try losing weight
>>5683311
>tfw you live in an area where not passing ensures that you will be treated like subhuman trash
>>5683325
well good for you.
now
>>>/femgen/
>>5683305
is that a penis?
>>5683312
>that post
What
>>5683333
yes
>>5683309
I don't have any cute pics and posting a pic where everyone hates me is dumb lel.
>>5683336
...
>>5683340
???
>>5683330
Yeah, but are at least nice to us non passers here in SoCal, but I travel a fair bit so I have to worry.
In fact I am asking my cousin if I can get a job out in Phoenix in a few days. I got a feeling they will kill me because I look like a dude out there. The LA job market is horrible ;_:
>>5683323
goo luck, im behind seven locks
>>5683305
Cute femboy
>>5683318
Right, cause I need that acid.
>>5683328
I'm pretty good myself just chillin watching gantz with peeps. Still tired from other days party.
I was going to come out to my family today, but my mum killed herself last night. Should I still come out?
>>5683346
well aren't you a sneaky aunt!
>>5683353
>>5683355
yes also rape
>>5683355
>>5683355
delete this
>>5683355
>>5683338
I don't hate you though! I don't even know any who does.
>>5683338
I do hate you though! I even know plenty of others that do.
>>5683370
hot
>>5683371
>>5683355
>>5683370
please remove yourself from the thread, sir
>>5683371
Thanks anon.
>>5683375
>tfw bone structure like quentin tarantino
why even fucking bother trying senpai
>>5683384
show butt
>>5683344
Yeah, travelling tends to make me super nervous. At least I know people won't get violent with me here, elsewhere it's always back of mind.
>>5683350
No, and I do have accepting friends and family. However, there are at least a few that I'm positive would be less comfortable with me if I didn't pass. Dealing with the ridicule of the general public every day too, idk.
>>5683383
iktf friend.
>>5683382
>>5683386
I think its probably more important to be attractive than to pass, but idk im like 12 years old and barely on hormones
>>5683375
...
>>5683389
>>5683394
>tfw your face is too long
why genes, why?
is a maxilla reduction plausible with ffs? please be
>>5683394
my clinginess towards my ex won't stop. kill me.
>>5683394
>>5683399
>>5683404
10/10
>>5683421
Bully
>>5683421
do you have a reading disability? kill me.
>>5683400
I dont think ffs surgeons would do that, sounds pretty extreme so probably would only be done if you had heavy facial damage
>>5683424
Kill me too and you got yourself a deal
>>5683354
yes.
>>5683429
i doubt you will.
>>5683390
Yeah, that's a good attitude to have. Caring less helps you pass more anyways so it's a win-win.
I cared a lot less about passing early transition as well, but I started caring a lot more about passing after a few instances of not passing led to open ridicule, or my safety being threatened.
>>5683401
Iktf, fucking shitty feeling
>>5683426
yea i havent been able to find anything on it either, mostly google brings up results related to complex facial fractures...
it really sucks if it cant be done, its something ive hated about myself since i was a kid. perhaps you know of any alternatives if i post a pic?
>>5683358
anyone save the images of this guy?
I'm gonna dox xer
>>5683432
I am not! ... Only when they like it, mostly.
>>5683437
I woulds if you held up your end
I'm gonna move out of my mom's place tomorrow. Throughout the day I've been okay because playing SMT Nocturne and then RE5 split-screen with my friend occupied me, but now I feel a bit like throwing up. I've only lived on my own for a few short months during my college semester abroad and I didn't manage to keep track of my finances or leave my room in the least, but I mostly feel positive about moving out because I've matured since then.
I want to play with a transsexual's penis against his will as I'm giving him a good pounding from behind bringing him to a screaming orgasm.
>>5683463
Try ftm gen then.
>>5683460
Grats! I hope things go well for you. It's hard to make those decisions for change like that and actually deciding to go for it is the first major step.
Also I totally thought you were someone else here because of name starting with k + the subject matter hah. Shows how common the scenario is really though.
>>5683463
woaw O________O
>>5683457
bully me
I want to buck my hips against a transgirls cute butt as I fill her up to the brim with my cum
>>5683471
You can be such a thirsty slut sometimes Rems
Going to try something about my image issues. Rather than booking a consultation with a FFS surgeon who'll tell me everything has to be fixed, I'm booking a photo shoot with a professional photographer who's done great work about "different" bodies over the years. Won't cost me much more and if the pictures are good, it might be enough to turn me away from expensive and probably unnecessary surgery.
>>5683472
Same.
>>5683472
Good feel ~
>>5683485
kek saved
I dont want to be trans anymore.
>>5683328
got a bunch of stuff today for free. this braclet is pretty neat
>>5683479
*shrugs*
>>5683501
here's another angle for extra kekposting
>>5683511
*bullies*
Its all fun doe
>>5683523
>>5683509
A bracelet with a little clock in it?! Omg that's so cool
>>5683514
i can tell ur a real girl because u have 50000 bobby pins
>>5683485
>pygeum
Hi hips? Nail any good trannies lately?
>>5683542
some 'passes so perfectly we thought she was a cis transtrender girl showing up at the lgbt meet' asian grill that was so boring it made me decide to stop having casual sex forever
>>5683534
yeah but a REAL girl would have 5000 of them spread about her home and car that she can never find when she needs one
>you will never be kissed on the mouth unironically
>>5683548
i swear i've lost half of them in this mess
>>5683567
As long as you are not a virgin past 25 you are fine.
>>5683567
id kiss you ;) your lips are probably really soft...
>>5683527
>>5683515
nah I've had that watch for like a year now. the braclett im holding is a zip thingy its pretty good, I dunno which company made it. also in the background is some toys I got to keep, feels good having such access to stuff
>>5683570
people like that don't actually exist lol, right?
>>5683576
>those manfingers
>miniatures
>painted fingernail in shit tier colour
kek nice aesthetic hon
>>5683569
yeah i bet you've lost lots of stuff in that >.>;;
>>5683576
Yeah, I was kidding...
>>5683569
clean your room :(
>>5683579
I was getting close lol. I was a 23 year old virgin lol ....
>>5683576
>MACfag
unless you are using it because you like unix then you are a fucking faggot.
>>5683570
I'm 23 soon.
>>5683574
g-gay
>>5683593
trip on kayla
>>5682139
>Raifu and Faye
>mfw
10/10 would marry
>>5683595
i-im just kidding, im not agp like that
Anyone else worried about femgen and the unhealthy levels of denial they're going through?
>>5683607
S-same tbhon.
>>5683594
>tfw lost it at 20
>tfw I thought that was really really late
everyone I knew growing up lost theirs around 13-15
>>5683611
>bullying twinks
Please dont do that...
>>5683606
did muff get ffs?
>tfw when you're really fucked up on drugs or extremely sleep deprived you apparently have a really soft cisgirl sounding voice and act super submissive and feminine
>tfw when sober i act obnoxious and like a boy and use my boy voice all the time
is this repression or something i dont understand
>>5683627
yes
>>5683628
yes
>>5683623
Doubt you can still call them twinks after they've gone that far though...
>>5683594
its a keyboard I got for free. I got computer parts from another shop that got stuff donated but the manager never sold any of it.
>>5683584
oh no I underwent a natural male pueberty resulting in large hands and feet and whatever else maybe I should just cut them off so I can never indulge in toys again
>>5683586
autism lol
>>5683509
post selfie pls
>>5683633
im becoming a twink with boobs and a vag desu
>>5683635
>>5683631
why though
i used to naturally use my girl voice in every day conversation and was almost 100% sub
the more real world experience i got, the more confident i got, the more self-esteem i got, the more i started not giving a shit and becoming a lot more dominant and using my boy voice normally
are you sure its not just that im a switch?
>>5683617
20 isn't that bad. The thing is gets progressively worse as you age. It seems it doubles in how weird it gets when you are still a virgin every year. Like being a virgin at 23 was eight times worse than when I was a virgin at 20, Now that I have had it though I am like well that is kind of over rated, but want to get in bed because it is still kind of cool.
>>5683634
>not using a model M
nigga pls
I have to go code in emacs, then go to the market, then cook, then watch some shtty game.
bye faggots.
>>5683642
idk i kind of just said yes. just be comfortable with who you are!
>>5683645
i am comfortable just sometimes i worry that there's something sinister going on in my subconsciousness that im not aware of
>>5683641
Full face bby
I want a qt to get me drunk and then lewd me.
>>5683634
>crikey m8 that's not a knoif
>>5683644
yeah I mean I was super depressed growing up so I never really had a drive for that kinda thing. Then I decided eh why not try it and lost my virginity in a threesome
looking back it probably wasn't the best idea I've ever had, hell it wasn't even the best threesome I've ever had
>>5683644
>unironically caring about what age people lose their virginity at
I'm embarrassed to trip on this board.
>>5683650
>>5683654
I can molest/grope/rape you if you want
>>5683654
sorry im straight :\
>>5683667
like spaghetti, straight until wet?
>>5683664
Alright~
I have not really ever practiced, this is just me speaking naturally. When I still repressed my voice was really deep, but I think it was just me being a tryhard at being a guy.
What does anon think? Also I'm sorry for my shitty accent. ;_; http://vocaroo.com/i/s06gK8rZQ86c
>>5683526
~
>>5683654
Come here then
>>5683674
whore, now where can I rape you today?
>>5683675
it's not that bad, sounds a little bit like a gay guy but don't we all?
>my turn
http://vocaroo.com/i/s01ovDXs4WCu
hello where i may be raping you todays ma'm?
>>5683675
are you some slav?
>>5683690
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s01ovDXs4WCu
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggot
>>5683654
i want to be fucked silly drunk
>tfw finally got super drunk for the first time in a month and everybody was sleeping
>>5683696
ye I thought so, I have no sodding clue how to into voice
>>5683701
is okay a little rape will help you out
>>5683700
i was tired as fuck from cleaning all day and just passed out
sry babe, you got it pretty good this morning though ne~?
>tfw no wide, childbearing hips
>>5683606
Great Tier
Angie - ? - Moap - ? - Muff
Good Tier
Sage - Oryx (?) - Faye - ? - ?
Meh Tier
? - Rawr - ? - ? - Edie (?)
Shit Tier
? - ? - ? -Circe (?) - Sonic
Fill me in.
>>5683707
>tfw no bf to have consensual non consent rape sex with
literally why even live
>>5683717
your nu is showing
>>5683710
Bad people rarely get what they want maddie.
For whatever reason you refuse to feel this space we're in, to know its insanity, really know it. Whatever your particular anesthetic is, that you hold onto so desperately, the thing I mean that makes you think you know who you are, whatever that thing is that you allow to keep you sane, your ace in your hole. The psyche that keeps you from trying to guess what your pimp has in store for you, whatever keeps you from screaming out at this very moment in absolute and sheer horror, whatever you fuck your brain with, whatever that is, whatever that is, it's a lie. It's a lie.
>>5683708
yes ty
>>5683717
Man Tier
Lainanon
>>5683725
why am i bad ;_;
>>5683725
Is it me or does that lady have a slight facial shadow
Ive been so scared of mines being noticed since im still doing laser that i stare into other women to see if they also have slight facial hair and it can get disturbing sometimes.
>>5683690
It's weird, without practice or looking up guides or anything, my voice has naturally shifted towards being way girlier over time, I guess it's because I dropped my deep voice I forced myself into using in the past and as I'm slowly getting less used to it, it's getting better day by day.
Guy voice: http://vocaroo.com/i/s12Ka2ruzVvv
>>5683695
I'm Norwegian actually, but my voice has been compared to people in that area before. ;_;
>>5683730
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6vdxSl-hnUc
sounds like a nice song
>>5683738
Cucking
>>5683734
Rawr is in meh tier and you look better than that baldie
>>5683717
Top Tier
Maki
Great Tier
Angie - Anna - Moap - Ufufu - Muff
Good Tier
Sage - Oryx - Faye - Kayla - Raifu
Meh Tier
? - Rawr - ? - ? - Edie
Shit Tier
? - ? - ? -Circe (?) - Sonic
I did my best.
>>5683743
>I'm Norwegian actually
Enda en sissy boy som mahmut kan pule på sida.
>>5683743
ayy manvoiced 5ever
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1u6EcLtWpi7
>>5683753
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=6vdxSl-hnUc
WEeEeEEeEllllLLLLLlllLl HOOOOOOOwdy Dooodddddie pahtnehr, yeeeeeeeehaw
gem you hick
>>5683756
Maki is that you?
>>5683763
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1u6EcLtWpi7
sing a song faggot
>>5683755
How would you know?
>>5683648
there is you just gotta embrace it
>>5683756
That's not Maki you absolute new fag, the top one isn't even trans, get out
>>5683763
I think your voice is alright Anon, like me you just need to practice varying in your tone at higher ranges so it sounds more natural.
>>5683774
There picture was posted here photoshopped a hundred times
>>5683777
is it Rugby?
>>5683777
that is maki he's a fat slob
>>5683781
she meant lain's pic obviously
>>5683781
But I mean how I look.
>>5683795
Youve posted yours
youre the fat dude with the big jaw?
>>5683777
>tahm
>not trans
>>5683776
i dont like being submissive and stuff though....
when my life is totally within someone else's hands only bad things can and have happened
being self sufficient is much better, and that means kicking the shit out of the little girl inside my brain and telling her to fucking pipe the fuck up because im almost 20 and theres no reason for her to be round these parts anymore
all embracing that side does is bring out a shy selfish kidlike neet in me, and that's not how you be successful in life desu
>>5683764
n-no
I was just linking the song she was playing and what the lyrics were for
it was a nice sounding song but I generally hate country and most things dealing with the south
How does one get hair like pookie? What products does she use?
>>5683800
I dunno, i've only posted a three years old pic.
rate my voice
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0koznOVUcgH
>>5683802
Well if he is, he never got round to the taking of the titty skittles.
>>5683710
>tfw overweight but i still have that slim swimming body
>>5683805
okay, if you say so Bubba Gem yeehaw
Haha, so like. There's a way to stop feeling dysphoric, right? Like a pill I can take that just makes me okay with being male?
I just don't think I have the strength to go through with a transition and it's freaking me out.
>>5683821
if we knew we wouldn't be here bby
>>5683764
>>5683805
>>5683819
Alabama 3 is a Country Acid House band formed in Brixton by a Welshman, Scotsman, and a Northern Englishman. If you honestly think country is bad u probably have low IQ and have never heard real country (Note: Real country is not YEEEE HAW I RIDE ON MY TRACTOR TO DA FOOTBALL GAME AND DRINK SOME BREWSKIS CUS MY LADYS A BITCHHHHHHHH OOOOOOO)
Get some class, *tips cowboy hat*
>>5683305
yes.
>>5683803
idk like i consider myself submissive but if someone was to for example start shit i'd give it as good as i got, there's a fine line between being a submissive person and a doormat.
>>5683803
yes that is true. im saying things without really knowing anything so just keep doing what you're doing desu you seem to know what to do! :3c
>tfw when pass visually but was very close to getting an acceptable feminine voice before new semester
>then dad got into a work related injury and he's at home 24/7 for the last few weeks and he screams when i practice so i sound like a guy in class
FUCK OFF DAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>5683743
your lucky you have a naturally feminine voice if i hear you right.... pls post more
>>5683305
Maybe if you didn't show off your dick in the picture.
>>5683770
i tryed
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tzks1cbiAY
>>5683813
is this a joke
>>5683779
yeah, just gotta practice a lot more. practice makes perfect
>>5683839
mmm im aware of that but if im submissive i want to be FULLY submissive, literally want to be owned by another person and have EVERYTHING taken care of for me
on the flip side i want to be 100% self-reliant right now and want to be able to take care of other people which is within arms reach right now :3
>>5683851
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tzks1cbiAY
du bist entstellt and du bist hasslich
>>5683867
ich weis
1 day in to the "don't eat" diet and im very hungry and cannot stop thinking about food
what do?
>>5683875
why aren't you eating???
I post in here and pretend I'm one of you but I still live in boy mode and haven't done a thing to begin my transition yet.
I just got back from grooming my beard and hating myself.
>>5683869
ich liebe dich
>>5683877
because im fat and i need to lose weight cus its unhealthy and i binge eat
>>5683880
it's ok, im boymode 4 life too, ive just been on hrt like 2 years or so
>>5683821
some people found a way
thats usually called suicide or realizing they're not actually trans
you're in for the long haul amiga
>>5683845
>tfw barely decent voice
>tfw my voice is apparently girly and perfect naturally when I shut down and get super submissive and act like an abused little kid
>tfw dont know how I could force that out
fug
>>5683875
by not starving yourself ;~;
>>5683880
I post on here pretending to be trans just to; start drama, fan drama flames, get nudes and mess with the regulars. when in reality I'm just a normal guy
>>5683875
Drink water it helps. Chew and spit is fun but its not good for your gums. >>5683884
Literally drink water. You have more bloat then fat
do my feet pass now?
>tfw want to exercise and lose weight but want to gain weight on the off chance i'l get decent sized breasts
>>5683884
fasting will cause more weight gain after the fact. not to mention when you don't eat you'll burn around 400 less calories a day than normal. just count calories and exercise a little
>>5683851
>is this a joke
no? is it really that bad...
>>5683851
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tzks1cbiAY
Mein Gott
was für eine wunderschöne Stimme<3
>>5683899
stop being so hard on yourself you are clearly passing a lot better you act like you are the only one with passing problems
>>5683903
>warum, du weist mich nicht lol
Ich glaube, Sie nett klingen
>>5683912
You just couldn't help it could you?
>>5683845
But Anon, what do I say?
>>5683916
come on you made it too easy
>>5683904
Well yeah you'll gain some weight back but unless you go full ham beast most of it stays off
My dad always told me transgender people are so in denial about being gay that they'd rather pretend to be women.
>>5683875
try sipping on some chicken stock
preferably one with msg
>>5683926
what about transbians?
>>5683926
I'm sure some have identity issues and being a women would be more acceptable, still fucked up Iran forces gay men to transition.
>>5683926
your dad is right
some of them have repressed their homosexuality so much that they convince themselves they're attracted to women
>>5683926
ignorance is bliss huh
>>5683905
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sJZMufwoci
for real tho you sound like a hillbilly
>>5683908
th-thanks, my oma is from graz and my opa used to sing opera so christmas was always about singing o tannenbaum and stille nacht and listening to the austrian boys choir and whatnot
>>5683914
d-danke
>>5683926
it's true
>>5683903
>you're on the first steps to anorexia and bulimia!
nah ive wax and waned between 110lbs and 160lbs for the past like 6 years or so oops lmao
>>5683904
so eat like less than 800 calories a day and do squats?
that will take like 6 months to go from 160 to 110 though...
>>5683892
ill drink 100% fruit juice all day instead
>>5682511
>▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
Is this a troll?
I'm looking for that hon imgur gallery. Anyone want to link?
>>5683945
That wont help at all. Juice has sugar.
>>5683924
The thing about losing weight with diets is that you need to continue the diet for the rest of your life to maintain that weight. Or if you start eating more you need to exercise more. Sure you can lose a ton of weight by not eating for a while but you'll go back to the same weight if you go back to the same eating.
>>5683945
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have less than 1200 calories a day depending on things and stuff. But yes it will take a while but if you do it right it will be easier in the long run and easier to maintain it.
>>5683945
go see a nutritionist or smth, it's what I'm doing to gain weight so they could help you lose it
or you could look up the military diet, or make yourself throwup after meals
>>5683918
Anything on your mind i just want a longer vocaroo of your pretty voice ;_;
>>5683942
>d-danke
ich liebe dich
>>5683763
>ayy manvoiced 5ever
iktf i just wanna sound like a qt brit girl and woo everyone just by speaking ;_;
>>5683957
link me some scientific peer-reviewed studies that support the claims that you're making please
>>5683958
i want to get rid of all this really fast though ;_;
>>5683961
what if i go on atkins and just eat meat !!
>>5683942
Another Austrian princess!
where are you from?
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T GET AN ORCHI BEFORE SRS
http://i.4cdn.org/b/1454870998908.jpg
>>5683954
your feet are a solid 4.5 out of ten
>>5683958
That's why don't go back to stuffing your face every chance. But exercise is p great. Yoga is fun too. Wish jogging wasn't so bad for your kness and hips
How do I stop fixating on passing?
I'm an 18 y/o M(pre tF) who's too scared to transition because I'm too poor for surgery and too ugly to pass without it.
I'll never be happy as a man so I can't just do nothing, and they say suicide isn't the answer so I don't see another option.
It's dysphoria time and I'm wearing my dysphoria suit (aka any clothing I own). Should I get drunk to numb the pain?
>>5683971
You need to stop browsing /b/
also I am a hypocrite
>>5683942
>for real tho you sound like a hillbilly
i am a hillbilly, before i decided to transition i did open mic nights as a johnny cash impersonator
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PyKlvP2lod
>>5683967
then you can starve yourself but it will suck. id suggest reading about fasting and also taking vitamins and nutrients so you dont die desu. also after you reach your weight you'll need to calorie count
>>5683967
>what is diabetes
>how do organs work
Sorry senpai I thought you knew basic nutrition
>>5683976
Stop being a retard, take your damn pills and don't worry about it.
You're not going to be poor forever, the longer you put off transition the more likely it is you'll go hon, so start as soon as possible. If you don't have one, get a job, put away some savings incase of FFS and stick with it. You don't kill yourself until you've exhausted every option, not before.
>>5683971
Cute.
>>5683978
>yes
>yes
Pick one.
>>5683972
>4.5 out of ten
could have lied and told me they were an 7/10 at least
>>5683954
they look like feet, feet dont have much of gender. obviously if they're cartoonishly large people will assume they belong to a man, but there's no way to tell how big yours are in that photo, and most people aren't looking at other people's feet
besides that you painted them and they look soft which makes them appear more feminine
>>5683995
if you were wearing shoes that werent made for a granma
>>5683981
Transition and get to a point where you and your voice pass perfectly. Then on an open mic night, walk up dressed all pretty and say you're going to sing some Cash.
Then bust our your man voice.
>>5683995
let me cum on your toes
>>5683964
du luegst anon
>>5683967
idk I'm a vegetarian, have been since birth
>>5683970
Florida, my mum is austrian and my dad is british. I've been thinking about moving to austria though, I have family in lutzmannsburg
>>5683978
try wearing comfy pjs and an oversized sweater, that always helps distract me from the pain of dysphoria
>>5683981
i didn't know people had voices that deep, are you african american by chance?
>>5683978
getting drunk wont really help
>>5684003
>i didn't know people had voices that deep, are you african american by chance?
asian, actually
Why does Kayla dress like a grandma? Does her mom buy her clothes or something?
>>5683987
>asks for proof
>"wow u dont believe me? guess ur dumb'
now THAT is how you prove a point :^) clap clap clap
>>5683982
idk
if i keep eating how much i eat and i just start exercising would that be good?
i really dont want to stop eating how i eat currently
>>5684003
i was raised vegan but im very far removed from that now
>>5684003
>du luegst anon
Möchtest du meine Freundin sein?
>>5683995
If I can heh heh *grunts* suck on them *snorts*
>>5684003
If you do it, let me know and then we can get married, okay? <3
>>5684010
she buys her clothes off amazon
>>5684010
She wears her moms clothes and since kayla is getting old herself her mom is probably ancient.
>>5683763
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hvrefeOdYi
my normal voice btw but you should be fine man
>>5683998
Fuck off that meme is so dead, floral flats with a bow are cute af and some gamer nerd like you who is into combat boots and converse just wont get it.
>>5684029
>britbong
allahu akbar!
>>5684014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCzU9GAqcXo
>>5684032
dank meme senpai :^)
>>5684012
>>>/fit/
Literally anyone with a brain knows. I'm sorry you never listen to reason or good advice
>>5684029
how far north do you live m90?
can't really place you but you sound east midlands or at a stretch south or west yorkshire.
>>5683962
I tried.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0poTgeAASJm
>>5683763
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12dezI4609C
>>5684038
17 38
38
>>5684025
Explains it.
>>5684028
Also explains it.
Why do grandma clothes make transgirls pass so much less?
>>5684031
>combat boots and converse
Patrician shoe taste right there.
>>5684040
ironic as fuck coming from you dude LMFAO
please, it would take literally 30 seconds for you to back up these claims. i believe things when present with solid evidence, so far all you've done is said WOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME
u could literally own me and prove me wrong if i really am being dumb but instead of doing that you just say NAHHHH UR WRONG XD I CANT PROVIDE PROOF THO
>>5684046
Ja, Ich bin ein Mann
>>5684012
yeah for sure, assuming you're not eating like 3k+ calories a day. it depends on your weight rn and what you wanna get to
>>5684059
w-wunderbar
aber was machst du hier?
>>5684061
i only generally eat like 1500 calories a day anyways
im just gonna start going to the gym i think
then i can maintain my food vice and look good doing it
>>5684031
they would be cute with the right dress
but you wear them wrong with jeans and a peplum top which you are also wearing wrong and would be more suited to a pair of capris or even a nice business style skirt
>>5684046
!!!!!
I have literally always wanted to live in the Salzkammergut
let's do it, let's elope <3
>>5684064
>Manchester
>Liverpool
ugh i was on the wrong side of the country what was i thinking.
if you were from yorkshire/east midlands you'd sound like me.
>>5684067
lel no offense but you wouldnt be 160 if you only ate 1500 calories a day
>>5684075
well I'm defo moving to austria if trump loses, so get ready anon. I can prolly bring a gun or two over to defend us from the rapefugees too~
>>5684077
lel no worried, vocaroo that shit some of the midlands accent are quite decent
>>5684066
versucht, mit ihr zu flirten
>>5684055
Probably because not even cis girls wear that shit anymore.
>>5684040
>Mado
>I'm sorry you never listen to reason or good advice
Oh God, my sides.
>>5684080
its the binge eating that gets me i think
>>5684069
kayla knows fashion
>>5684010
Stop perpetuating that shit meme. I live in so cal, its always summer so floral prints and flats are always in fashion down here, especially among 19 to 28 year olds.
I guess this is a grandma hon by mtfg standards
>>5684091
see how she isnt wearing floral print shoes
or boot cut jeans with those shoes
>>5684056
>ironic coming from u dude
Whatever you say.
I'm on phone and I really don't give a shit. You can look up what ever you want. Its not my fault you take shit that way. I'm just giving you advice but you're to autistic to drink water even if it means losing weight and looking healthier you'd rather literally fight about how unhealthy sugar is. Just fuck. Use your brain sometimes. I get you have everyone do your thinking for you but Christ.
Enjoy getting nowhere with your "diet"
>>5684088
so what your saying is some days you eat almost nothing, and other days you binge? because if that's the case it would still average to more than 1500 calories a day. only a completely sedentary dwarf could maintain their weight with 1500 calories a day.
>>5684091
Wow, you're right. She's definitely rocking those floral print grandma shows and boot cut jeans.
>>5684095
holy shit did i strike a nerve bro?
>tfw watching heroine addict friend's life fall apart and there's nothing I can do to stop it
This is the worst kind of pain.
>>5684081
Don't worry, soon Strache will be in power and build a wall to keep all muzzas out
>>5684095
wait lol do you think people gain weight if they eat/drink sugar? or am i just misinterpreting what you are saying?
>>5684067
yeah that'll work. or you could get a bike, bikes are the best.
>>5684093
ja ich bin win chaser
>>5684082
lol do you want to hear a man voice then?
like a manly man voice?
like, my female voice sounds so bad right now that i daren't put it on so i might as well just show you how low i can go... but i mean it's kinda embarrassing.
i hate my voice
>>5684110
I'll admit, I might have cracked up a bit.
>>5684115
hey man we all have man voices here as you heard lel, at least we can practise here
>>5684100
(You)
>>5684111
Partly but that's not my point
>>5684111
yes i believe that is the claim that he's making, or rather it makes you gain bloat
im not really entirely sure though, he's just kinda said buzzwords and called me an idiot thus far
>>5684113
OOOO
YES
I LOVED BIKING I JUST HAVENT DONE IT
AND IM GONNA BE LIVING IN SOUTH PORTLAND WHICH IS SUPER BIKE FRIENDLY
BIKE HYPE
thank u idk why i didnt think of that, thats how i maintained my weight all through high school fuck
>>5684122
>pfui teufel
;_;
>>5684099
What other pants can I wear out? I can't wear a fucking skirt or short shorts
Post songs to suck cock to,
https://youtu.be/rLWAlWfgivA
>>5684138
s-sorry
at least I'm in the states so it's not like anything would've happened soon anyway
>>5684142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91pJ3igFTpk
>>5684140
>I can't wear a fucking skirt or short shorts
Why not? Have you got some kind of mandingo cock?
>>5684127
so you think if someone ate 1000 calories of sugar a day, they would gain weight? you need to brush up on your take aways
if your point is that losing weight while eating unhealthily isn't a viable long term strategy to lose weight, then that's a good point. if it's not, then what is it?
>>5684150
>Why not?
my legs are shit and I would need to wear leggings but I sweat in those
das fühl wenn kein qt deutsch transmädchen zu üben mit
SCHLECT FÜHL ALTER :(
>>5684157
wear really thin ones
>>5684136
YES BIKE LIFE IS the LIFE
i might be going to UBC which is like right above portland, we should bike !
>>5684154
It turns to fat. don't know what you peeps are on about. it also gives you diabetes. You're not going to lose weight drinking nothing but fruit juice.
>>5683924
Awooooooooo
>>5683971
How did that happen!? Atrophy?