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first for my husbando
yeah... a lot of my friends are a year or a couple years older than me and its kind of sobering to realize how old i am already and how little i have achieved.
my best friend from high school is my age, and he just finished vet school and does what he loves and gets paid a lot and is getting married this spring.
another of my internet friends is now an LAPD cop. one of them got hired as a software engineer some place in seattle and makes a huge salary. another moved to korea with his wife to teach english in schools there.
and here i am, 22 year old tranny that's only a sophomore in college basically still living off my parents with basically no responsibilities other than paying my bills on time with money i'm given or showing up at classes i enjoy.
i wonder if we are gonna make it.
ur 2d husbando a shit. Get a real man. Pic related. Best husbando.
It's kind of hard to make it if you are stuck in a rut. At this point moving in any direction (even if it turns out to be a wrong one) is better than staying put.
You just have to put the effort in, that's all. Except for the cop friend. They'll take anyone in LAPD it seems.
Hi /mtfg/, I painted my nails for the first time today!
I think they look pretty bad, but maybe it's good for a first try? What do you think?
You have these muscles on your face, you know, and you just squeeze them. Easy peasy.
Here I even attached a helpful image. Left - girls smiling, right - you.
>this will never be me
please do not bully invoker. i love him.
yeah i suppose so. i have a really bad habit of comparing myself with my peers. even though i've been through a lot in life i still feel like i should be thriving.
he has showed us pictures of all the forms and tests and stuff that LAPD makes him take. he had to take like a 3 hour psychological examination and a huge physical test.
it sounds really tough to make it, i don't think its that easy.
women are the sexiest gender, prove me wrong, you can't.
Woah thats a pretty god husbando
BUT NOT AS GOOD AS MINE
That's right. If Austrian Death Machine can do it so can you.
oooo nice :3
anon you have top tier taste. but stay away from rin > >;
Rin is all yours, I want Makoto to protect me ;;
>tfw trip failure when I swap browsers
You have excellent taste friend. (Miller is cuter tho).
That's the most weeb husbando of them all tho.
gyro zeppeli is fucking perfect. he's 100% badass has a good sense of humor, and in the same tiem is masculine but with a feminine "cute" side.
the only people i wasn't out to was my dad's family which consists of my 96 year old grandma and my aunt. wrote a letter to my aunt who is christian, comfortably well off, childless and retired. i explained my intersex condition, the last 10 years of testosterone abuse and repression, and my transition. she wrote back saying she had no idea, my letter made her cry, she supports me wholly and feels bad for not being there for me as she was a large part of my childhood. she said she'd talk to my grandma about it, but with her reduced mental capacity and advanced age, didn't expect much.
my dad pre-empted her and told my grandma. i had no idea what the heck he said to her but apparently grandma was cool with it and said i always seemed like more of a little girl than a little boy (shes going senile and only remembers me as 6 years old pretty much).
don't know whether to be relieved or annoyed, my dad wouldn't have said i've had to deal with periods for 13 years in secret or i abused testosterone to look more like a guy for the sake of being what they wanted me to be. i wanted to lay on the body horror and guilt thick. fuck sake. acceptance is nice, having control taken away, not so much
Hi everybody. Cis gay here.
Last night on fit, some guys started a thread on how women suck, and a women's life is easier because she can pick a mate more easily, but I posted that they should try to see it from her point of view for once, and I actually changed some misogynist's mind, and he realized he just has a low self esteem and was projecting his insecurities on women.
Then I had a dream later that night that I walked into this small room, and there was this lady who was my friend in the dream. We were having a conversation, and suddenly my voice got extremely feminine and lispy and I was embarrassed, and I said "Oh, it's just my inner women coming out. Wait what the fuck did I just say?" And even she raised an eyebrow.
Irl I'm not a woman. I love being a man, when I was little I always wanted to be a man, I love my cock, and if I was born a woman I'd probably get a sex change to become a man.
But what did that dream mean? I think it means I'm in touch with my feminine side.
It means you want to fuck your mother my friend
Get therapy immediately
At least I can still ship them together :^)
i love mtfg because there is always anime pics from my second favorite anime and now i like anime after my gf got me into it (i used to hate japan as a nation of sexually perverted, xenophobic war criminals with surprisingly good taste in seafood) i finally recognize all these reaction pics
thanks mtfg for making my life a richer tapestry
I dont even watch anime I just like posting the cute pics that come from them.
if you could pick between being as 10/10 as big boss/venom/solid snake, or pass but u never get ovaries or srs, which wud u pickk
I'm sorry, I'm (mostly) kidding and just funposting.
Free! husbandos are shit tier though :v
>ywn will never create a new union between turian and humankind together
>ywn travel the galaxy together protecting the peace
>ywn let him win a can shoot-off to make him feel good about himself
>ywn playfully watch him make ship calibrations while pretends he doesn't know you're gazing at him the whole time
Just reap my shit up
Unless it is in the MGS universe and there are nanomachines that can turn anyone into genetically identical to cis qt girls and they are affordable on super soldier salary, then probably option 1.
Uh, to each their own. I just prefer more masculine rugged guys. They just look like the would be gay tbhon.
Being Big Boss would be pretty [spoiler]boss[/spoiler].
Geek boys are best.
What's the point of having a bf if you can't play video games and watch anime with him?
Also they are animes :^)
moe was a mistake.
manime will make a return someday.
we just have to believe.
alright. i need you guys' opinion. what do you think of lizard girls? scales and everything.
no bf yet... ;~;
but i mean, i'm being picky. i have plenty of beta orbiters.
I can almost guarantee he shaved for the olympics then. It might be different at really high levels but the whole thing about swimmers shaving is partially a myth. The guys on my team only shaved for big annual meets, but everyone just let the hair grow between them.
Tho I guess it doesn't really matter because Free is anime and not supposed to be a reflection of reality.
Anonymous that's not cool you're talking about mai waifu. (Mai waifus?)
>tfw your hrt is finally delivered
I'm never miss timing my shipments again. That week w/o any was aweful. Ah well I'm super happy now
(posted wrong pic last time x.x)
they brought scooma to skyrim
#TRUMP MAKING SKYRIM GREAT AGAIN
>go to bed
>friend's husband ACTUALLY wants to fuck
>spend an hour explaining why he shouldn't question his orientation because he's into me
I really hate explaining how I'm a girl to someone who's known me for more than 5 years...
i have both actually. guild wars 2 was really fun and one of my irl friends told me it was going to be the best game of all time so i got it then he stopped playing in a week then i had no one to play with anymore...
i was queued for an easy dungeon for tomes in ffxiv but we wiped on the first pack so i gave up and now i'm about to start playing starcraft before school starts.
They have an open marriage, there's no cheating going on. Still not wanting to get involved.
It's just awkward. He wasn't argumentative, although I cringed when he wondered if it was a kink. Idk, I need to seriously move to a city where I can get a fresh start, too many people know here.
Can't we all just ignore young Eminem? It's far more easier.
Every pvp game gets old and boring quickly regardless. Doing the same tiny maps and fighting the same fotm setups over and over is more mind numbing than grinding the gorillion mats to make a legendary in gw2.
Plus I like helping people, not killing them.
Seems a bit silly.
I think you're qt, don't listen to the bitter people
What games that are set to be released this year is /mtfg/ excited for?
This is a bit random, but...
Does anyone has a link with THAT interview with Laverne, Carmen and Katie?
It was everywhere, and now it seems the video has vanished from the internet.
Anyone has a magical link, please?
i feel like the only thing i missed about okcupid was messing with guys lol
I enjoy games like War Thunder and Mount and Blade Warband, skill based pvp is lots of fun, its a competition of who has more mastery over the game.
Total War: Warhammer
I tried to play that shit on pc, I loved the character creator and difficult combat, but holy shit- I need to be able to make the pawns shut the fuck up.
I liked these videos at first but I quickly got very tired of John Greens video persona.
i would say so
Final Fantasy XV
Shantae Half Genie Hero
Final Fantasy Explorers
Street Fighter 5
Yeah I'm a massive weeb :[
>tfw when already preordered Total War:Warhammer for the Chaos army.
I'm the biggest whore on the board.
I wish this general would stop being so racist towards hons and late transitioners
gosh i have never seen one up close before...........the very thought of it causes me such anxiety... to even speak in such a salacious manner.................idk....
Oh god I just woke up from the worst dream ever. So in the dream I was in girl mode at Target and I was so nervous and all the cute cis girls were starring at me from all directions. I could hear them whispering shit about me. I finally made it to the check out and when I went to swipe my debt card the guy at the checkout asked to see my ID to see if it matched and it was still my boy mode ID so I had to explain to him i'm trans and he had to call security, and then the manager, and the whole time my voice was getting deeper as I tried to explain my situation. The line behind me grew the entire time and everyone was giving me horrible looks and talking about me. I finally just left and then I woke up.
Yeah me too, or Im out sixty bucks. The videos they've released look good so far, What I expect though-
>Awful unit collision
>Lack of unit types
>Bad campaign AI
>Go to trans support group
>Listen to hons for a while
>Comes to me, try to talk about my problems
>Shouted down by hons because I pass and therefor live a perfect life
Why in the fuck would you ever go to a trans support group?
I think that picture gave me autism or I'm slowly going insane looking at things thinking I see something
the turned on lights are 3x3 9, 9x2 18, 18+2 20, 20+2 22
Relevance? not sure
good morning girls.
>tfw david bowie dies
>tfw shit job but its your day off
>tfw no one will ever mysteriously find your social media accounts
>tfw no one will ever give you $200 to let them suck your toes.
I met someone whos lived in California and helped transitioners with confidence issues and finding jobs and she still keeps in touch with the organizers. I might see her later this week again, would you like me to ask her for some numbers?
The term "shotacon" is a Japanese bimoraic clipped compound of Shōtarō complex (正太郎コンプレックス Shōtarō konpurekkusu?), a reference to the young male character Shōtarō (正太郎) from Tetsujin 28-go. In the anime and manga series, Shōtarō is a bold, self-assertive detective who frequently outwits his adversaries and helps to solve cases. Throughout the series, Shōtarō develops close friends within the world. His bishōnen cuteness embodied and formed the term "shotacon", putting a name to an old sexual subculture.
Where the shotacon concept developed is hard to pinpoint, but some of its earliest roots are in reader responses to detective series written by Edogawa Rampo. In his works, a character named Yoshio Kobayashi of "Shōnentanteidan" (Junior Detective Group, similar to the Baker Street Irregulars of Sherlock Holmes) forms a deep dependency with adult protagonist Kogoro Akechi. Kobayashi, a beautiful teenager, constantly concerns himself with Kogoro's cases and well-being, and for a time moves in with the unmarried man. This nonsexual but intimate adult-boy relationship in part inspired the evolution of the shotacon community.
Tamaki Saitō describes the modern shotacon dōjinshi community as having largely formed in the early 1980s and having a roughly even split between males and females. Saitō suggests that shotacon was originally an offshoot of yaoi, but when adopted by male readers became influenced by lolicon; thus, he claims "shota texts by female yaoi authors are structurally identical to yaoi texts, while shota by male otaku clearly position these little boys as young girls with penises."
I don't know anon, I don't look for these things.
Looks disgusting irl.
Clearly its just that everyone I interact with, even people from /pol/, are just being polite and hugboxing.
Had no friends to talk about shit with. I think we've all been there.
I found something like that, it was a court ordered domestic violence course for women. Got a hell of a lot more support and was able to relate with people much more there.
>tfw when A-cups
Nope. I don't have a car and therapists in this area are so expensive its highway robbery
Ideally I'd like to see a therapist and get a legit prescription for hrt but in the mean time I'm self medding
Alright I just learned a really good lesson today. Everything is garbage and never love anything.
This guy dates me, tells me I'm beautiful, we have the most amazing time together, and then cuts it all off. What a fucking dick. Why ask me out and make me feel fuckign special and then say "I'm not ready to be in a relationship"
Fuck you. Fuck this. Fuck everything. I'm not meant to be happy I'm sure. I must have murdered 6 billion jews during ww2 in a past life to deserve all the shit that happens to me. My life is a fucking tragic comedy. The only time anything ever good happens to me, is to raise my hopes and crush them even more.
I can't have anything nice and I'm meant to be miserable.
That's not right. A newhalf is someone born male that wants to be a woman and has breasts (almost certainly implants back when the term first came about, now that HRT is more common maybe not so much anymore) but still has their penis. It's essentially the same as pre-op / non-op MTF, 'shemale', 'tranny', etc.
>stuck in class with same autismo from last term
>homicidal urges begin
H E L P
not yet i just woke up n im going to work soon so i'll figure it out when i get home
Im just frustrated because it came out of nowhere. He just blindsided me with it after we had the most amazing time. I told him its okay and thanks for the amazing dates and to have a good one.
I'm not a fucking psycho I'm just frustrated because I really liked him.
It's something I'm thankful for every day, there used to be part of me that genuinely wanted to help the trans community. But its so draining and poisonous, and utterly depressing. I can't take it, probs to Laverne for being able to go on TV and shit and give us some sort of positive representation.
Hi, how are you doing?
There was one woman there because her son called the police and lied to them about her, because the event happened on his property they took his word, arrested her and sent her there.
Another woman yelled at her husband at a gas station, some one there called the police. They were pulled over a few miles later and she was arrested, for yelling at her husband.
A lesbian woman was there for restraining her girlfriend when she tried to kill herself, best part: her girlfriend was admitted to the hospital later that night for trying to kill herself again.
Me? I sent a mean text message. Welcome to the police state.
It must be hard as fuck to find doctors who will prescribe HRT where you're at, shit sucks, you need to move to the west coast.
I never was abusive, it was police state bullshit. They railroaded me because the guy who claimed to be the victim told them I was a tranny, and we all know how the courts look at people like us.
The brutal reality is that men who do find themselves attracted to a transwoman don't want people to know about it due to gay panic. Even though they want to fuck you, they don't want to date you because of the social stigmas associated with you. They don't want people to question if they're gay.
Yes, it sucks. Welcome to being mtf.
No you're not, I think you're a bit rustled by my presence even.
There are a ton of guys who do this as soon as they find someone new who shows interest in them, which is frankly better then the beta guys who just fuck you and the new girl and try to hide it
I had to sit by them last term, they talk over the instructor, tell jokes that aren't funny, throw tantrums when they get a bad mark or forget to do something, and blurt wildly sexist garbage all the time.
>lol girls amirite?
>lol friendzoned again
Every. Goddamned. Time.
Fuck my sprinkles are stirred
I don't have a machete, what's the closest thing I might find in a computer lab?
Because I have no problem with dating transmen.
Im probably just gonna stop dating and save up and live the dirtbag life for a year or two traveling the US camping and climbing shit.
I know how they treat us personally, never ever be around police or the court system, people can rape, and beat you freely (personal experience), and have a higher chance of getting away with your murder (saying you killed someone out of the shock of finding out they are trans is still a legal defense in most states)
I also don't believe everyone there is innocent, my mom was standing over me with her knocked bleeding from punching me so much telling me i was going to jail because she was bleeding.
yup, also, chekd.
if 10% of cis people are actually gay, and 70% of trans people are, it makes me think that 60% of them are just autogenophiles / transvestites that have become too obsessed.
Don't you dare criticize male sexuality you fucking faggot, they run the fucking world, you can only demonize sexuality if it's feminine or it belongs to a woman.
No one in my cis male mono skin colored peer group ever says anything different then me about this so I know I'm right
>texting w chaser-kun
>suddenly he blurts out that i met one of his ex girls or something
>realize who she is and he confirms it by showing a photo of her
>she's this at-least 8/10 cis blondie
>he knew i was insecure already before, no idea why he would make me aware of this when it just makes it worse
>tfw feel like a second pick and a weirdo trophy now
>mfw I'm a robot advanced enough to bypass captchas
Gender dysphoria is caused by a feminised brain, but no one ever said fully feminised. There are parts that are feminised and they come together and cause symptoms.
Chances are, when tranny brains are feminised/masculinised, the parts that affect sexuality are sometimes not changed to the same degree, causing either 'lesbianism' (old male sex desires) or bisexuality.
I don't see how that's so confusing.
Or willing to pay 20 bucks for a 4chan pass.
No, they're born that way. Hormones in the womb influence these things and cause a feminised brain. It's probably just feminised enough to cause issues like dysphoria while leaving other masculine parts of the brain.
I'm sorry that when I meet someone within one date I know if I want a relationship with them or not. Its just how it works for me.
Obviously I'll meet someone who feels that way about me. Until then I'm going to just go solo and enjoy my life without a partner. I dont need other people to be happy.
Why do you say trans people are defective to the point of needing to anhero? You can be trans and a productive member of society.
As for the how -- foetuses receive different hormones which influence their development. At some point when the brain is supposed to be masculinised, it's only partially done or not done, whereas the body receives all the right signals to develop as male.
Bam, gender dysphoria. It's the most common explanation given by the medical community at the moment, but hasn't been 100% confirmed.
Whatever. I don't really care about meaningless semantics.
The accepted treatment is hormones and surgery because the alternative would be brain surgery to try to completely program the brain... which we know nowhere near enough about to attempt.
I don't know, my personality changed significantly and permanently somewhere between kindergarten and first grade due to a neurological condition triggered by getting infected with strep (Sydenham's chorea), so I'm at least open to the idea that in some cases trans-ness could develop in a previously cis person due to infections, toxins, etc. In my case I'm not sure, at least.
You are rustling me too hard with your misgendering
Please be gentle, anon-kun!
It's not outside of the realm of possibility that someone could develop gender dysphoria later in life due to a condition, but it's somewhat unlikely. People have ended up having changes in sexual orientation due to strokes before, so I'm open to the idea as well.
>mfw i'm an immense baby when getting laser on my face to the point the operator is practically consoling me
>tears streaming down my face like i just got savagely owned online
THAT SHIT HURTS
Has anyone here had sexual reassignment surgery? Mines next month, and I could really do with talking to someone about it that knows what it's like. Right now I know so little about whats going to happen and i'm so scared :'(
SRS vaginas look absolutely horrid and have giant scars on the sides. They leak mucous so you have to wear pads all day every day and cant wear cute panties anymore. Sex is lame, and its hard to orgasm.
I had my surgery with brassard 2.5 years ago. I'm stuck on my phone at the moment so I can't really go to a private platform, but I can answer any questions you have here.
There's surprisingly little info out there, and even going through the process there wasn't a lot of info on what to expect.
Shut up troll.
Does Brassard use penile inversion or the reconstruction technique like Suporn?
Main thing im currently wondering is how long i'll be unable to live a normal life for after surgery, like when can I go back to work and the gym, etc?
I see. That just sounds like what a chaser would say.
>having to clean your butt every time you want to have sex, so no spontaneous sex
>tucking daily, which limits which outfits you can wear
>having to try to tape to go swimming
>having an obviously male part when you're supposed to be female
>dealing with the constant fear of being found out somehow
Why would anyone want to keep their penis?
Plus, it's gross.
Catually, after living as a pre op trans women for many years now, many of these problems can be worked around.
I've spent a fairbit of money on specal tucking underwear and a swimming suit, Only had one sexual encounter where i've really freaked a guy out, but now i'm in quite a content place with a straight boyfriend that's happy to ignore the fact I have a penis.
I believe Brassard's technique is a hybrid, it was referred to as "by penile inversion" when I got it, but his results are generally as good as suporn's. I wasn't concerned as much with specifics so that's about all I know.
You'll be confined to bed for the first few days after surgery and on heavy painkillers. From week 1-2 you'll be able to move around, but will need to be sedentary. The pain starts to get a bit better around week 2-4. I was able to start returning to normal activities during the 1-2 month range, although it took until close to 2 months for all the incisions to fully heal. Intense exercise requires > 2 months recovery.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I've probably been living as a preop transwoman as long as or longer than you. It still sucks. Having to deal with them sucks even if they can be worked around. I'd rather not have the daily bother... it sends me into weekly panic attacks. The only reason I haven't cut it off in the washroom by myself is they reuse it to make the vagina in SRS.
Plus, spironolactone isn't good for you. I want to stop producing testosterone and reduce my estradiol dosage.
that's just really sucky for me, work won't let me take time off as medical leave and I have to take it unpaid. I have no idea how i'm going to manage to live. I'm fucked now though, already taken out a massive loan to have surgery on the 17th of feb.
I want trans girls to be ok with their bodies without hrt and socially transitioning desu.
I mean you do you, that's fine. But don't try to imply its as easy as just deciding to be okay with no srs. It's not that simple.
I didn't say the worst, I said you're selfish.
I don't want a peen. I don't want to be ok with one,
Surgery would make me feel ok with my body.
so yeah, no. you go ahead and keep yours long as you want.
Calm down, no need to get so upset.
I'm not attacking you or anything, I don't even know you.
I'm selfish for wanting people to feel good about their bodies? If you say so. That's in no way selfish but whatever.
If someone wants surgery, they can get it.
I'm not saying DONT DO IT, I'm not saying SRS is wrong. I know that some people will never feel like girls until they have SRS.
I can have opinions and you can too. No need to be salty.
I'm going to say you'll probably be able to manage. Just be aware that your incisions may not have healed and that you'll need to be careful not to sit for too long, or overexert yourself. It's unlikely you'll need strong painkillers by that point though.
Didn't say that, please reread what I have posted.
>I dont oppose SRS
>I dont oppose HRT
>I want people to be okay with their bodies
I want people to be okay with their bodies
Some need HRT to accomplish that
Some need SRS to accomplish that
Some will never accomplish that
this isn't selfish
Not sure why you're so upset
But she's not. She's just saying she wishes girls could be happy with their dicks. She's not saying ALL TGIRLS SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH THEIR DICKS, THIS IS BEST, THIS IS LAW, ALL WHO WISH FOR SRS REPENT
>I'm not against people getting SRS but I wish they'd just be okay with having a penis and still living as a girl.
>but I wish they'd just be okay with having a penis and still living as a girl.
>She's just saying she wishes girls could be happy with their dicks.
I wish my dad would be happy with a tranny daughter but I know that's not going to happen and I don't casually make announcements stating such in the threads.
Sex is honestly pretty great now, I'm 2.5 years post-op. Basically, I get some enjoyment out of penetrative sex, but I enjoy oral and fingering a lot more. It did take some amount of practice to get to a place where penetrative sex is enjoyable, you have a whole new set of equipment and you have to experiment a little to find what works.
It took me quite a while to get to that place, but I don't masturbate much, so I didn't really experiment as much as I should have.