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>tfw never put on any weight no matter what I eat
Thanks white people's genetics.
>posts transboy as OP image
So besides the lipstick trick and applying an inch of makeup how else can I kill my beard shadow? I considered epilating my face but I would have to let it grow and NOPE
>For the average 18-year-old female, the bicacromial or shoulder width is about 14 inches or 35 cm. For comparison, the average biacromial width is about 15 inches or 39 cm. for males of the same age. Longitudinal studies show that women experience a growth spurt in shoulder width in their early teens, but that shoulder width does not significantly change after age 18.
Things you regret making fun of cis girls for when you were pre transition:
>always mocked my mom and female cousins for hating to get their hair wet
now i know how much of a bitch it is to dry hair and how bad tangles suck and now I avoid getting my hair wet too
>making fun of girls for taking too long to get ready to go somewhere
yeah.... I was a jerk, it takes a while to get ready to go out without crying yourself into oblivion for not being perfect enough
>making fun of girls for peeing too often
my anti androgens make me pee even 10 fucking min now
>mocking women for being afraid to go out alone
now I am afraid of going out to places by myself out of fear of men
Is hoping for more breast growth after 3 years sort of hopeless? I want more normal sized breasts, but don't really like the idea of implants.
I don't think shoulder measurements mean much without images desu.
People always measure differently, which is why you get some mtfs here claiming to have 13-15 inch shoulders, when it looks nothing like that in person.
>tfw shoulder width 46 cm
It can't get any worse than this.
>Is hoping for more breast growth after 3 years sort of hopeless?
yes, implants seem like our only hope at a normal bust, just make sure you get the kind where they make the incision in the arm pit so the scars are not visible.
They do "Transumbilication" in my town
>implants through the bellybutton area
no scars aside from the inside of ya belly button
All mtfs have larger than female shoulders and the ones that say they don't are lying or ignorant.
Look around at all the 18 year old men you see and honestly ask yourself if you ever see any with female or smaller sized shoulders.
Nobody here has it better or worse than anyone else.
>implants through the bellybutton area
thats pretty good too, then you could just get a pretty belly button piercing, I want one of those too. I see too many mtfs get those horrible under boob implants and they are scar city. I am either doing armpit or belly button.
pic related, BA scar from the armpit
Maybe I'm just AGP, but it's women who intimidate me. Men will be straightforward and nonchalant if they don't care for you. Women will talk about you behind your back and be pretty malicious.
>I don't think shoulder measurements mean much without images desu.
18" breathe it in and behold my Atlas shoulders and barrelchest
Honestly, looks normal to me, it all depends in the rest of your body. Carmen carerra has man shoulders but the of her body being great makes it much less noticeable.
Posted this a few days ago after posting by bed bug bite chest. Nobody really notices, too be honest and I don't try very hard to hide them.
>Maybe I'm just AGP, but it's women who intimidate me.
Ayy me too. Here's to being outgoing around men and shy and awkward around women.
>it all depends in the rest of your body. Carmen carerra has man shoulders but the of her body being great makes it much less noticeable.
I have the frame gym manlets wish they had as a base, if I powerlifted mass suicide would occur at my local everyday fitness centre
>tfw ur body is unpassable garbage and no straight man will ever love you or even desire you for more than a novelty fuck
>tfw stretch marks on boobs and no hips and big feet and hands
Who needs a partner anyway?
I just wish I could pass.
>not naturally being catty
what are you doing, really, reevaluate your life
>finally get around to measuring shoulders
who wants the rest of my pills
i should just quit
definitely those last two
>tfw had two guys follow me around my apt complex late one night
I was wrong to ever feel comfortable when its dark
Don't worry, anon, I know there are plenty of women who aren't assholes. Actually, passive-aggressiveness is higher in trans women than it is in cis women!
But I feel bad for you girls because you're so vulnerable and often in so much pain.
H-how did you measure? You must have done something wrong
>Actually, passive-aggressiveness is higher in trans women than it is in cis women!
Some how I think your numbers are a tad bit flawed there.
trans women = .001 percent of population
cis women = 50.8 percent of population
Love the glasses and coat, I have the same glasses
maybe because I am 190 pounds now, hrt has my food cravings cranked up to max capacity and for the first time in my life I have started forcing myself to vomit after I eat. Did it 4 times in the past 2 days. I haven't kept a thing down for more than a min after eating it.
Cute sunglasses, the middle picture feel off because of the angle of the camera against the angle of the mirror though. I don't honestly think it looks as bad as you think it does and guys will come and go and have 1000 reasons why they don't stick around (it's not a myth that goes generally only want sex) don't let the idea that it's your body rule your mind because it's highly likely that isn't why.
The outfit on the right does make you look a lot older.
They are but maybe people like that stuff in Murrica.
Left: Androgynous boy with long hair who's trying on his overweight mother's jumper
Center: Middle aged woman after a rough night of partying and drugs (aging is a bitch)
Right: Grandma who still wants to feel sexy as those girls in their 20s
I think white scarf and white top is too much. Second outfit could be nice with something to cover the arms. That's unfortunately a general rule for transwomen I think. Don't care for the glasses all that much but I do like the coat a lot and the bag looks nice with it. Let's all move far north where it's cold like our hearts.
i think this outfit looks cute on you
i think i have wider shoulders than anyone else who posts here even though i'm pretty short for a mtf, no hips, wide, wide ribcage. i posted the first photo because it is the most revealing -- my torso is actually a square with huge shoulders. No guy would choose me over a cis girl. anyone who actually took my clothes off would be supremely disappointed, if not vomiting.
If I am a chaser like you say - how could I be jelly if you look good? Your logic makes no sense, hon! You are the one jealous of girls calling anyone who says they look good pedos, hon!
I'm not she's literally my favorite and I love and miss her so much l-lol
hey hi hello
so today was good for me i guess idk. i didn't really sleep much and then i forced myself to get up and go to work. coffee are responsible both for my insomnia as well as my ability to function these days lol. work tho was actually not bad at all cause i did like 250$ in 90 mins! that seems to be my new average which is nice considering that like my minimum monthly now is like 4k with just one show 4x a week, not counting 5 days a week, or doing more than one show a day or working on multiple sites ^__^ i'm very proud that i'm bringing my average up honestly cause idk. if i could make the kind of money the successful cis cam girls do i would be so happy. they legit make like 1-2k a day lmfao
also i miss having a bf again. like a lot. mostly because of goodnight punpun tho if i'm being honest. i really need to decide where i want to move officially so that i can actually have a bf and a normal life. i just miss cuddles and kissing and being with someone idk. i'm also getting way more weeb again. which idk if that's a good or a bad thing. i blame maplestory and animecore clothes.
anyways um that's my update! hope ur all doing well this weekend and aren't arguing about who is more cis since we're all trans lmao
> tfw 6.5" hands
> Average female hand size is 6.77 inches.
> 10.5 in shoes.
> Average female shoe size is a US 8.5-9.
I, on the other hand have around 7" hands (lengthwise) that look slight, even for my tiny girlish arms. It all depends on how thick the bones are, not how long they are.
Shoe size is average - a 9.
think ur skinnier tho .....
which is perf <3 __ <3
>tfw 6.5" hands
what are you even measuring from
>tfw size 10.5 in shoes
UK or US?
that look would be nicer if you smiled, I'm also biased to vintage looks
I'm like that but 5'10, I think look in other places for guys, your past stories sound like they're not very nice
Hi Edie, that's good news that you're making more money >I wish I made more money. One day you'll find your punpun bf just keep looking
A lot of people accepted...
I'm pre hrt, so I'm curious, is there anything that I need to look up about physicians besides Informed Consent when going to the doctor, or can and will any physician prescribe me what I need after the steps?
Being unpassably trans is already a slow death, culmunating in suicide, begrudging acceptance and detransition, or delusion and fantasy. Taking the deal comes with no downsides for any 'hons' in the crowd.
Is it cool to post voice here so I can get slammed? I mean, uh, judged?
it depends on your goals i think.
i love lots of 4channers idk i would be friends with lots of people. what's wrong with that? my ex used to browse /vr/ and /mu/ tons too idk.
thanks ^_^ i hope so, idk. i would like a bf that is great. you know a true partner and all that. but idk if it's in the cards for me anytime soon. which i suppose is ok, i just miss it yknow
Got these today, new pajama pants and a matching cami
cute or not?
oh I also had good and bad news about my feet yesterday, I got the flats I bought and they were grossly over sized and were a 14, then I checked my heels and even they seemed loose. I measured my foot and it turns out I am a woman's 12 now instead of a 14. Its still huge but now my selection is a little better
>Oh cool. Hopefully you'll take care of yourself with some more comfort clothes..!
yeah, this cami is so freaking soft I can't believe it and its like holding my boobs perfectly so they feel like they are being caressed by angels
wow... um okay, I guess this is how I was to people when I was in repression, I guess I deserve it but honestly being a angry twerp ain't going to ever fix your problems.
>why are ur breasts in the foto
b..because im proud of them
Not really, I just lost another 50 bucks on shoes that are too big
this time my mom helped me pick out and I ordered these in a 12
shove things up your ass and moan about getting fucked by a hot daddy and then cum loud af then i guess. that's what i do.
well I like floral patterns, so what
beats wearing skulls and flames like I did in repression
>Grown adult men in their late 20s talking like preteen girls to each other
Hitler-sama died for a good cause.
though I am not sure where you live, but it will be a few months before you can wear those shoes if your climate is like mine...
well it's still not classy
>tfw you will never carry strong viking babbys
something about kayla going from roided out shaved head manly man to a dress wearing girly girl in a year makes me sort of jealous
I've been on hrt for 3 years and I still haven't had the courage to wear female clothing.
>tfw too manly to be a qt viking gril
>tfw hair is almost black during winter
I can't even viking properly, kill me.
>I am not sure where you live, but it will be a few months before you can wear those shoes if your climate is like mine...
Its literally 70 degrees here in the winter and 100 degrees in the summer. I don't own a pair of warm shoes.
I have those shoes in a lighter pattern :|
>like white instead of where black is
Does it work that way?
My dad has black hair and I guess dark brown is better than that shit at least.
she needs to get a boyfriend and move away from mom and buy her pink jetta and get a job in an office
>you will never be a strong shield maiden
b-b-b-but that's forbidden love b-b-but if it's with you it's okay *-*
omg so gay xD
oh wow those are cute... holy fucking shit they are expensive is fuck
>just woke up
>hear first time from ex for half a week
>"i still love and miss you a lot"
If he says more things ill beg him to come back. Oh well maybe school stops my thoughts of it aagh.
hey, first time posting here, im really confused and sad about everything, i want to transition, but im really afraid to, so many questions and fears on my mind, is this a place where i can get help?
yeah, just about anything I show or buy is expensive I spend a lot of money when I should be saving. I just shelled $400 out for new glasses (first for this year I can guarentee I'll have 3 pairs by the end of the year) it's a good thing I'm too big for Lolita fashion as it's even more expensive for branded merchandise than anything else I like
>good show desu.....
Best the History channel has put out in a while
I actually would really like to do all that but I don't think there's an active HEMA community around here.
I can dream about being a strong girl that overcame social norms if I want to!
The Trans Help General will be glad to answer that all, here is just senseless hateposting
People are shitty here sometimes but there are also lots of nice people, there's also Transhelp general on this same board which is a bit slower but generally pretty great.
Haha, my very first dress was a lolita style one that a friend gifted me ;; wore it to my first anime con with her and got a few random people saying I was super cute which was WEIRD. I'de love to get more because I'm a huge fag that way but they are pretty expensive.
>I can dream about being a strong girl that overcame social norms if I want to!
I don't see why it's so bad to be the puppet mistress behind the warchief, controlling the entire world from the home.
shieldmaidens either didn't exist, or were exceedingly rare.
>Haha, my very first dress was a lolita style one that a friend gifted me
one of my old friends she did the same for me when I came out. it fit me fine but I hate my body so I haven't looked at it since
she gets gendered female when we go out and idk abt myself cuz im talking a lot rofl
but what you said, sarah
i think its wrist to end of longest finger
weird imo just see if ur hands ugly imo
i didnt come out but my friend gave me bubble bath...whats that count for
>she's an inch shorter than she thinks she is
>she measures me
>I'm an inch shorter too
>Id rather save for my orchi than super expensive clothes desu
that's the better thing to do, I change my mind on transition everytime time I look at myself, then I get sad, then I spend money on expensive things
>i didnt come out but my friend gave me bubble bath
cute print but too OTT for colour. well I always showed my interest and she tried to get me into it before I came out but insisted I try after I did
Happened to me on Friday. Not sure I believe I'm 5'5" but they're better at taking my height than I am so I'll go with it.
Because we're cursed. Duuuuh.
To be honest, I like to think that I'm a terrible person and I did something to deserve this fate. Otherwise it becomes impossible to handle the high-octane unleaded despair.
Where am I going to get nuggets now
>tfw no nuggets to get squishy from ;;;;;
Milk tastes the worst
I didn't mind milk before HRT but now it just tastes weird? idk
I want to gain some weight too and most people told me I am not eating enough but I don't want to get a gross big belly ;;;;;;
I like masculine trans girls. Something kinds sad yet totally erotic about a girl with the birth defect of having a guy body. Something about the girl trying to be herself yet filtered though a guy body is fascinating. Some of you try so hard to be totally feminine in every way yet still seeing the hints of your past life is like seeing a butterfly.
> Tfw waiting for FFS date.
> Tfw done everything I can really do effort-wise until I can try my hand at fulltime.
> Gotta sit around and bide my time for another six months.
The taller you are the more you can actually shrink. I was 5'11ish", I'm now 5'9"ish. Seems to be usually 2~ inches most people lose.
Can't really get shorter than 5'3".
If you're on HRT it won't go to your belly, anything that is showing there is probably short term bloating. It's weird to get used to still, but that's normal if you're eating enough to actually gain weight.
>even south bay
kek, I would try to find a friend to stay with. I htink I might stay with a frined up in contra costa county when I get srs.
Even if she leaves the sac not having balls in there will still make the skin shrink. Once you get srs you will be shallower than a 4 foot 10 inch tell jap woman.
cute, I bought some more clothes for my trip up to oregon. Maybe I might get fucked in the ass by my friends roommate. She says he is tall and a gun nut. Maybe we can go do it innawoods.
Oh yeah it's definitely great, at least if you can't have non cone tits having a nice ass is a plus XD I've only gained 4 lbs since starting but now that I'm getting some gains gonna start toning more as well.
Height? Those are my measurements and I actually see my body as a more redeeming feature for me aside from shoulders, but yeah I think its 25/26in waist
> a 26 inch waist is absolute torture.
> 26 inch waist.
I have a 27 inch waist and I count myself among the lucky, at 119 lbs and 5'9". 26 is tiny. 24 is literally supermodel-tier.
As-is I struggle to find clothing that fits my waist. XS barely fit well, but they don't fit my chest, knocking me up to a S.
anyone ever watch Ai Mai Mi! Sutoroberī Eggu?
just finished it last night and the ending was depressing
Ah I've got like 2 inches on you but yeah almost the same measurements, 116lbs or 52.6kg earlier today when I weighed and 5'9. Is that really still an abnormally large waist? I buy like size 0 Pants already..
Supermodel proportions. If you used a waist trainer/corset it doesn't count though, because your ribcage will make it's artificiality obvious unless you constricted only an inch, tops.
27" natural at 5'9". That's like, really fucking good. Almost unheard of for women of that height.
exactly, like wtf, she passed so why not just take hrt and fucking go for it, she was much more happy like that. It made me frustrated. Did the manga end differently? Also I want that choker so bad but I can't find one like it online.
I don't actually have supermodel proportions. My natural 24" waist comes along with 31" hips. Also I'm a bit underweight.
But I do like having one or two things I can pretend to brag about.
But it totally does waah
I am totally going to need lipo soon at this rate ;;;;
Yay lol ... but uhmm yea
Just go ahead and have mine too I don't want to get bigger at places I hate ;;;;
Uh you think so? It's kinda gross t b h
Mayb it looks nice on you tho
But not on me
So what else do you eat, frog & pooks?
>tfw you will die a 40 year old kissless virgin
> Oh no I have a small skeletal frame.
As long as you don't have huge shoulders your body would be really attractive. God help you finding jeans small enough, though.
Even at 27" (waist)-35" (hips) in order to get a fitting pair I have to go into the 0s, especially to get a pair that won't get worn out in a flash.
Breaking news: the average woman does not wear size-0 jeans. The average is probably a size-6 or 8, because of vanity sizing (originally 10 was supposed to be average).
idk i think being skinny can be fun but like
i wouldnt mind having a bit of tummy so long as i was proportional, y'know? it can look out of place or not
my stomach kinda has some definition, and im not really muscular, i think its because theres not much fat there. washboard stomach isnt really a thing, i kinda like how it looks rn but do need to gain weight i think
i personally eat garbage and junk food
pookie eats better than me, every time she asks about a food i probably havent tried it soo..
Except they're basically the same.
> 27"-35" v.s. 24"-31".
> 0.771:1 v.s. 0.774:1
For future reference, the optimal for men lays at 0.9:1, and the optimal for women lays at 0.7:1, according to magical research. Both of us lay distinctly in the 'androgynous but feminine' range, which is as much as we can really reasonably hope for.
Gnight mtfg <3
u like simple food
simple food for simple bebby
it's really cute l-lol
Let's be honest guys, the holocaust never happened.
Are there that many in the first place? I remember that one game where there's the trap and tumblr wanted to make him trans but the writers pussied out and just said the guy was a wimp and dealt with it by trying to be a girl.
>not listening to under pressure
maybe him and freddy are finally buttfucking in hell now... one day we will join them
Trans folks aren't well-represented in anime (or anywhere) anyway and very few are even protagonists or even have a resolution to their own conflict unless the story revolves around them. Honestly, they probably shouldn't be changed. Minorities shouldn't be hamfisted for the sake of it.
Especially since the depth of your folks' knowledge are somewhat popular, translated manga, when most obviously wouldn't contain content that caters toward 0.0001% of the population that can relate..
I guess not. Also japan is insanely lgbt phobic anyway. Maybe I am just drawn to the fact they never really make passing a big issue in animes where they gender bend. But then again asians never have any trouble passing so reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Put it this way - they've been represented in the medium far beyond their actual minority status in any country, and it's more of a 50/50 split.
I mean, off hand in 5 seconds, you have MM!'s Tatsukichi, Ixion Saga's Marian (voiced by fucking Jun Fukuyama, it's a bloody riot), Hourou Musuko's Shuichi, I My Me! Strawberry Eggs' Hibiki, Steins;Gate's Ruka, etc. etc.
Heck, generally speaking anime is very accepting of alternative sexualities compared to any other medium. I mean, a token androgynous 'trap' character is a given in alot of anime.
hey girls just tried some new eye shadow LOL what you think?!
Does anyone remember that story about a transbian who signed up on fetlife then met up with some lesbian dominatrix who treated her like one of those crossdressing "sissies" and literally busted her balls?
Maybe that would be for the best, Mr. Asexual.