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With exception of God, what else exists that we cannot demonstrate and observe?
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>>3048599
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>>3048599
the soul
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Russel's teapot

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> females can't be philoso-
This woman solved ethics and outsmarted Kant, Hegel, Aquinas, Plato and Marx.
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I keep a picture of ayn rand on my dashboard with a sticky note that reads "She died on medicare"

It cheers me up a little every day
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>>3048591
bioshock proved her wrong
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>>3048597
She actually died while living off of social security?

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Can you be spiritual, but not religious?
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>>3048578
define what you mean by both terms
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>>3048584
Being spiritual is to be in harmony with your inner world and my enlightened by something beyond a cold reason, being religious is to follow a religion.
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>>3048657
what does that have to do with spirits (spirit-tual)?

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How has a board that's ostensibly devoted to actual intellectual discussion devolved into meme-tier bullshit? Has everyone given up on 4chan at this point?

This used to be the place where we could all talk about theories and test ideas before they were ready for primetime. Are we giving that up now?
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>>3048363
lol ur a fgt xD
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>anonymous forums
>intellectual discussion

Pick one. Public forums are the proper outlets for intellectual debate.
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>where-do-you-think-you-are.jpg

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Who's your favorite gyption mummy ?
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>>3048344
none...cuase that's a weird thing to have a favourite of
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THE "YOUNGER LADY" MUMMY.
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>>3048360
>>>/r/eddit

Seriously, get the fuck out of here. Go where you belong.

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Not an anti-semite (if anything I think Jews are the most righteous people), but can you tell me about the Jewish connections inside Russian and German revolutions? Also, why did the veteran WWI soldiers accepted Ludendorff's stab-in-the-back narrative if it's not true? Weren't they the one who experienced the suffering the most, and how useless it was to continue the war (supposedly)?

(Couldn't find another more fitting pic.)
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I don't know, OP. Have a bump though.
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>>3048325
Your picture is wrong. You should actually read these articles on Wikipedia.
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Brainlets confuse the 1918 revolution which was stated by pissed off sailors with the 1919 revolution which involved a bunch of Jews, killed almost nobody, and was then put down by a socialist government.

The stab-in-the-back theory was a forced meme that German militarists pushed on the population as a way to avoid the blame that they richly deserved for ruining the country and killing tens of millions of people.

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quick /his/ theres this wehaboo on reddit whos saying the civil war wasnt about slavery or white supremacy and that based black men fought for the confederates too how do i btfo him?
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>>3048268

>Reddit
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>>3048271
its for a obscureish game that doesnt have a general heroes and generals
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>>3048268
Tell him to elaborate on his arguments since it's pretty well known that the right to own slaves was an important cause of the conflict.


Or you can call him a cuck.

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>Another account of an encounter with a sea monster comes from July 1734. Hans Egede, a Dano-Norwegian missionary, reported that on a voyage to Gothaab/Nuuk on the western coast of Greenland he observed:[2]

>"a most terrible creature, resembling nothing they saw before. The monster lifted its head so high that it seemed to be higher than the crow's nest on the mainmast. The head was small and the body short and wrinkled. The unknown creature was using giant fins which propelled it through the water. Later the sailors saw its tail as well. The monster was longer than our whole ship."

What did they see, /his/?
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>>3048176

I feel like many of these sightings can be explained by sailors just making shit up because they were bored, or drunk, or both. Come on, don't tell you've never told a bullshit story to entertain your friends.
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>>3048188
you tell those stories WITH friends, you dont run off and tell the general public those bullshit stories
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>>3048176
This one's my favorite. Mainly because seasoned submariners were the witnesses and should have been able to identify whatever it was that burst from the remains of the British vessel.

tl;dr Germans submariners in WWI sink a British ship, a huge fucking mosasaur jumps out of the water from it's wreckage, and hits the water and dives before they can get a camera.

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Was Attila the Hun a good leader?
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Why is he portrayed as being turkic? He was magyar.
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>>3048102
I always mix this guy up with Genghis Khan. How can I stop that? What are the big differences?
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>>3048133

I also have that problem which is partially why I made this thread. Did they both like horse archers or was that only one of them? This needs to be sorted out.

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Ode on the Death of the Duke of Wellington

Bury the Great Duke
With an empire’s lamentation;
Let us bury the Great Duke
To the noise of the mourning of a mighty nation;
Mourning when their leaders fall,
Warriors carry the warrior’s pall,
And sorrow darkens hamlet and hall.
Where shall we lay the man whom we deplore?
Here, in streaming London’s central roar.
Let the sound of those he wrought for,
And the feet of those he fought for,
Echo round his bones for evermore.
Lead out the pageant: sad and slow,
As fits an universal woe,
Let the long, long procession go,
And let the sorrowing crowd about it grow,
And let the mournful martial music blow;
The last great Englishman is low.
Mourn, for to us he seems the last,
Remembering all his greatness in the past.
No more in soldier fashion will he greet
With lifted hand the gazer in the street.
O friends, our chief state-oracle is mute!
Mourn for the man of long-enduring blood,
The statesman-warrior, moderate, resolute,
Whole in himself, a common good.
Mourn for the man of amplest influence,
Yet clearest of ambitious crime,
Our greatest yet with least pretence,
Great in council and great in war,
Foremost captain of his time,
Rich in saving common-sense,
And, as the greatest only are,
In his simplicity sublime.
O good gray head which all men knew,
O voice from which their omens all men drew,
O iron nerve to true occasion true,
O fallen at length that tower of strength
Which stood four-square to all the winds that blew!
Such was he whom we deplore.
The long self-sacrifice of life is o’er.
The great World-victor’s victor will be seen no more.
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>>3047844
All is over and done.
Render thanks to the Giver,
England, for thy son.
Let the bell be toll’d.
Render thanks to the Giver,
And render him to the mould.
Under the cross of gold
That shines over city and river,
There he shall rest for ever
Among the wise and the bold.
Let the bell be toll’d,
And a reverent people behold
The towerwing car, the sable steeds.
Bright let it be with its blazon’d deeds,
Dark in its funeral fold.
Let the bell be toll’d,
And a deeper knell in the heart be knoll’d;
And the sound of the sorrowing anthem roll’d
Thro’ the dome of the golden cross;
And the volleying cannon thunder his loss;
He knew their voices of old.
For many a time in many a clime
His captain’s-ear has heard them boom
Bellowing victory, bellowing doom.
When he with those deep voices wrought,
Guarding realms and kings from shame,
With those deep voices our dead captain taught
The tyrant, and asserts his claim
In that dread sound to the great name
Which he has worn so pure of blame,
In praise and in dispraise the same,
A man of well-attemper’d frame.
O civic muse, to such a name,
To such a name for ages long,
To such a name,
Preserve a broad approach of fame,
And ever-echoing avenues of song!
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>>3047847
‘Who is he that cometh, like an honor’d guest,
With banner and with music, with soldier and with priest,
With a nation weeping, and breaking on my rest?’–
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>>3047849
Mighty Seaman, this is he
Was great by land as thou by sea.
Thine island loves thee well, thou famous man,
The greatest sailor since our world began.
Now, to the roll of muffled drums,
To thee the greatest soldier comes;
For this is he
Was great by land as thou by sea.
His foes were thine; he kept us free;
O, give him welcome, this is he
Worthy of our gorgeous rites,
And worthy to be laid by thee;
For this is England’s greatest son,
He that gain’d a hundred fights,
Nor ever lost an English gun;
This is he that far away
Against the myriads of Assaye
Clash’d with his fiery few and won;
And underneath another sun,
Warring on a later day,
Round affrighted Lisbon drew
The treble works, the vast designs
Of his labor’d rampart-lines,
Where he greatly stood at bay,
Whence he issued forth anew,
And ever great and greater grew,
Beating from the wasted vines
Back to France her banded swarms,
Back to France with countless blows,
Till o’er the hills her eagles flew

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You don't have to like Islam or be tolerant towards Muslims to understand that despite all the flaws and harsh repression that occurs in Iran and the flaws of the revolution, Iran is better off today than it was in the 1970s.

Unlike other revolutions, the Mullahs didn't go full autistic and murder millions of people or starve to death its population like some revolutions have in the past. There was repression and there still is repression today in Iran, but not on the scale like other revolutionary governments in history.

>Although some laws were revised to grant women more rights (mainly in the form of the Family Protection Acts of 1967 and 1975), a man could still legally kill his wife if he caught her in bed with another man. Women were not allowed to work the night shift (too dangerous the lawmakers thought). 60% of women were illiterate in the Shah's era (as opposed to 2% now). The Shah himself famously told Barbara Walters that women were simply not as intelligent as men.

http://historybuff.com/why-iranian-women-in-miniskirts-doesnt-mean-they-had-freedom-1-orGXDKQQdVZ1

Iran pre-revolution was pretty repressive, you had the SAVAK secret police torture and arrest political dissidents. The amount of political prisoners maybe higher today compared to the Shah but that still doesn't negate the fact that the Shah regime was a pretty repressive police state. It was even a one party state at one point in the mid 1970s.

As the history buff blog states, sure women may look happy in that picture but that was a small tiny elite of people that dressed like that. Outside of the cosmopolitan areas of Iran, the society and culture remained the same. The regime looked westernized but that wasn't part of the norm throughout Iran.
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>>3047757
i want a qt iranian gf tbqh
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>>3047757
he stopped the westernization process in its tracks, it would have trickled down like it always does eventually
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>>3047757
Iran also supports Terrorist groups now and m8
Yes the Shah was a piece of shit and extremely repressive but the current government is not better. Also
>Unlike other revolutions, the Mullahs didn't go full autistic and murder millions of people or starve to death its population like some revolutions have in the past
That is not saying much. That is basically saying that because the Islamist regime in Iran did not fuck things up totally it is ok. Also saying they improved Female literacy rates is an argument that works for people like Stalin. The Bottom line is that the Shah was only a threat to his own people well The Mullahs have shown themselves to be a threat to the stability of the region and to the people of foreign nations AS WELL AS there own people, thus they are worse then the Shah.

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Legitimate questions:
would the Ottoman Empire be best described as a Turkic Empire or a Turkish Empire? Does it matter? If so, did it change over time at all or was it always one or the other?

Or, perhaps, are neither correct?
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Depends on the time period. Many sources from around WW1 describe them as the Turkish Empire, even though officially they were still the Ottoman Empire. Though if you go back to the pre-post-Napoleonic era they are only referred to as the "Ottoman Empire"
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>>3047713
>Doesn't cover Turkic areas
>Is not even solely ruled by Turks
Its an Islamic empire if anything, Ottoman are not an ethnostate, Its multicultural and multi religious, the only thing unites (not even all of them) is Islam
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>>3047713
It is best described as an Ottoman Empire.

It is literally in the fucking name. Its Turkic founders didn't care about being Turkic. As far as they were concerned they were Muslim Aristocracy with a Persianate/Turkic/Roman titles ruling over a multiethnic, multicultural, multireligious empire.

Their military culture however is definitely Turkic.

I don't get it
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>>3047650
Nor do Trinitarians.
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>>3047650
It's a paradox. He is all of them simultaneously yet each of them individually
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water has three states
water vapor, liquid water, and ice
each are unique, but all of them are water

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If the Bible "interprets itself" why are there 3,000 denominations of Christianity? Why are non-Catholic "Christians" so stupid?
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>>3047587
>implying c*tholics got it right
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>>3047587
This is why Judaism is right.

The Oral Torah exists solely for this.
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>>3047587
>the Bible "interprets itself"
Nobody believes this. Well, you might find a few crazies who will say this, but no sane, mainstream person believes this.

>why are there 3,000 denominations of Christianity?
Modernism.

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Epicureanism, Stoicism or Cynicism, /his/?
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>>3047460
Ascetic stoicism is the ultimate existence.
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>>3047468

>denying the pleasures of life because why the fuck not?

Literally autism.
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>>3047476
Just because you enjoy something doesn't make it good for you. The greatest pleasure is not in transitory and frivolous entertainment, but in achievement and hard work - leaving something behind after your death.

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