Alchemy

>>19487301
There are things like "Physical"/chemical alchemy, Sexual alchemy, and spiritual alchemy. Someone will certainly be coming in any moment to sperg out about how "LMAODUDEBRO Paracelsus and Newton and those guys were just a buncha eejits, alchemy was never about transmuting metals, maaaann."

Because they think these are mutually exlcusive 'forms' of alchemy, rather than seeing the underlying harmony.

They are retarded, do not understand even the vaguest of Hermetic principles, so you can safely ignore them. However, if you want to wrap one hand around their ego's dick while they cup its balls, feel free to indulge them in that endless ego-bation in which they incessantly partake.

>>19478280
Is a great thread to ask more questions if you don't get many answered here.

>>19487312
You sure did fill your post with 75% sperging out over supposed spergs instead of going into detail why you disagree with them.

Anyways OP, if you're familiar with the term "as above, so below", I'm sure you know by now it refers to a plethora of different aspects of existence, from the smallest part of microcosm to the most titanic one of the macrocosm. Psychological archetypes, the 4 elements, genders, the spectrum of colors on the rainbow, musical notes, (and so, so on) are manifestations of the same universal elements, and Alchemy is the applied study of these elements, where two elements in a (sexual) synthesis result in a third.

Mythologies along the ages have hinted at these Hermetic truths in detail, but hidden under layers of symbols.

>>19487338
Probably it doesn't have anything to do with uneducated /fringe/tards shitting up every thread on alchemy, ever.

It's self-evident why these are not mutually exclusive... evidenced by Hermetic principles. I didn't think it was necessary for me to quote the Corpus Hermeticum in full to get my point across.

The very nature of Hermeticism implies that one is not doing "just" physical alchemy, or "just" sexual alchemy. But again, anyone with a vague introductory...even just a /fringe/chan understanding of Hermetic principles, really...would not need this laid out for them like it was their first time coming to a conclusion.

Meanwhile, what the hell are you even arguing for in your post? If you state your thesis up front, we don't have to dig thru your word-salad to find evidence it even exists.

OP here, this video got me interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZFeIPoswY

What more material can I get on the subject? Is the Kybalion worth the read?

>>19487354
>>19487312
Hello, can you point me in the direction of where to begin on sexual alchemy?

Is that just the alchemy of ones own internal chemistry?

>>19487338 here.

If you're serious about attempting spiritual/psychological alchemy, be ready for months of self observation, sexual abstinence and plenty of meditation. You need to attain a level of awareness where you're able to piece uour consciousness apart from the ego, to where when instances of anger/sadness/jealousy (essentially the many ways your consciousness interfaces with reality) you're able to identify the root causes of each.

Learn to distance your "eye" from physical reality. Recognize falling for things that would normally force you react in a certain way as falling asleep.
Reach a point where you're able to tether yourself to your consciousness and away from your daily grind and petty shit, and naturally your spiritual path will show itself to you.

You'll notice this has VERY little to do with shitty new age bullshit wicca and much more to do with making yourself a better person in your everyday life. Entities of all kinds will show themselves before you, but not before you kill your ego

>>19487397
Also, watch these.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv8SH0aWDbR3AMZ3gR4VwIN6_scjE6CUr

>>19487390
White Tantra, my guy.

>>19487338
Could someone give me some examples of decoded symbolism in hermetic/mythological/spiritual texts? I always hear this and I'd like some examples just to calibrate my mind

>>19487390
There's a bit more to internal alchemy than just sexual stuff.

>>19487397
>"You MUST stop having sex"
>"This has little to do with shitty New Age..."
OK phamalam.

>>19487390
I poked around in the mega but didn't find what I was looking for. You can wait for a response to >>19487410 if you don't wanna wait for me. They will probably find it first anyway.

>>19487390
Sexual alchemy is the basis of Daoist cultivation. Basically, instead of absorbing qi/prana from the universe like the buddhists, you accumulate and transmute your sexual energy(jing) into qi, and then qi into spirit. Cultivation starts with 100 days of celibacy before you can transmute jing into qi, then again 10 months before transmuting qi into shen(spirit) and 10 years if you want to refine the golden elixir and create an immortal foetus to actually open the path to immortality.

>>19487404
For general reference on alchemy, these guys usually have good entries:
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Alchemy

Sexual alchemy usually involves sexual fluids as well as altered states induced by sexual activity. I'm reading Kiss of the Yogini right now, so I'll know a helluva lot more about eastern sexual alchemy, before too long.

>>19487417
I guess that must be a regional or cultural take, as many things tend to be... because many Buddhists definitely practice(d) Sexual Alchemy.

>>19487417
>jing
>qi
>spirit

Gonna need a quick rundown on the differences between the three?

I studied Alchemy and I didnt make the Philosopher Stone.

But I did make Red Colloidal Gold.

My study into Alchemy helped me spiritually but it has also taught me ways to heal my body.

I had Seb Derm for a long time. Over a decade. Its like red patches on your scalp that always flake dead skin and sometimes you get a red rash on your face when it flares up.

Nothing I tried worked to get rid of the Seb Derm for good till I tried an Alchemical approach.

There is a theory in medicine called the Zymotic Theory of Emergent Disease and I was going on that theory that was based in the work of the Alchemist Paracelsus.

Basically saying that the Environment is the driving force for these pathogenic microbes that cause disease and that to kill them you can change the Environment.

So I started to use baking soda on my scalp as an Alkalizing agent to raise the PH of my scalp and change the environment. When I did this I started to kill off spots of the seb derm in my scalp.

They actually died and left a mushy scab in the middle that when I picked at left a big hole in my scalp. The hole healed up over a few days. And I have done this same thing on multiple spots on my scalp and other parts of my body.

Today I am totally clear of seb derm and in a way its because of my study into Alchemy.

So it made me into a better version of myself.

>>19487403
It's not a short read, but try researching Sophia and the demiurge from the Gnostic point of view. It's a nice starting point and it's essentially the same theme of every mythology that came before and after it. I won't try to sum it up because anything short of piecing these archetypes together yourself would be oversimplifying it, but it's a classic story of God descending into the physical plane and falling in love with his own reflection in the physical plane.

>>19487413
You shitpost way more than all these creepy derailers you love sperging out about, don't you? Abstinence is vital to the beginner. I'd love to hear how you're such an epic Hermeticist if you don't practice self observation. You simply -can't- meditate on your archetypes if your mind is enamored with porn and shit.

>>19487436
Different anon, what whatever happened to "chop wood, carry water"?

>>19487401
Looking into tantric yoga now

>>19487413
Thanks, but I'll wait for you too. You'll probably find better material than I would, and I'm looking into tantra as starters.

>>19487440
Well, hey. Keeping your body healthy is important too. Yoga, Prana breathing exercises, even Tantra were originally meant to help you become physically sound and clear your mind to help with concentration, more meaningful lucid dreams, astral projection, etc.

>>19487450
>Keeping your body healthy is important too.
Can't argue with that.

>>19487427
Those are the three treasures gifted to humans by the Heavens. Jing is vitality, comes and goes depending on your lifestyle, abundant in youth, on the low at old age, you get the idea. Qi is life force, further separated into primordial and true qi, primordial qi(kidney qi) is what you inherited from your parents, true qi is what you get from refining jing. Qi can heal, strengthen, refine your physical body, increase longevity. Spirit is your mental energy, can directly affect some aspects of the soul, can be used to manipulate jing and qi to heal the body and the physical soul. Refine and combine the three trasures and you get the golden elixir, which nourishes the immortal foetus.

>>19487403
The most important one and obvious one is the Alchemical Trinity.

Salt, Sulfur and Mercury.

The Body, Soul and Spirit.

In Gnostic or Hermetic text they often speak of man having this 3 part nature. The Soul being what the Demiurge uses to trap us and the Spirit of the Aeons is what he desires.

The Demiurge is Jealous of our Divine Spark.

>>19487458
>The Demiurge is Jealous of our Divine Spark.

Enlightenment is ego's ultimate disappointment.

>>19487458
What exactly is a Demiurge by alchemy understandings? I get a lot of mixed information on the internet on what exactly it is.

>>19487426
The buddhist sexual alchemy is the same as Daoist dual-cultivation, using a sexual partner to exchange energy. Female sexual energy is pure yin, male is pure yang, atleast for virgin ones, ever been able to tell if someone is a virgin just from 'vibes', this is the fucking reason, if someone's had sex, ever, the energies are already fucked up. Dual cultivation is practiced in order to balance yin and yang, which is naturally very beneficial and sometimes necessary if there's an imbalance. If you're a virgin and trying to get your dipstick wet, i'd suggest you find another virgin if you want to get the benefits that the universe left for you by.

>>19487488
My take on it is that the Demiurge is the divine spark of consciousness trapped within the Zeitgeist of the 5 senses, perhaps even the misconception itself that consciousness IS matter.

Any alchemy practices that dont end up with mercury poisoning but are also not just purely meditative?

>>19487444
For Tantra:
Kali Kaula or Kiss of the Yogini
>>19487436
Eh every post I have made has also had a contribution to the thread. I don't think calling out somebody who is openly autistic is too distracting for most of the people here.

>>19487436
>"You simply -can't- meditate on your archetypes if your mind is enamored with porn and shit."
You can't make much spiritual progress if you're obsessed and consumed by ANY worldly pleasure. This doesn't mean we must never enjoy ourselves if we are to strive toward enlightenment. Hedonism and asceticism can both get you to the same places...and there are way more than two, but for our purposes, those places are:
>self-aggrandizing ego-masturbater
>Lord of one's Will

Indulgence can lead to enlightenment as well as abstinence can, and abstinence can lead to inflation of ego as well as indulgence can. It primarily depends on the person and the context, like nearly everything.

But still, we return to:
>You simply -can't- meditate if you do (thing that obsesses me) because (others cannot possibly use moderation where I cannot!)
>"This has Little to do with shitty New Age..."

Also archetype meditations are important and should be done, most every mystical system I am aware of has a form of them...but there are more meditations than there are people. Why do you place importance on these over others, out of curiosity? In other words, what tradition do you practice that stresses these?

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>>19487312
>There are things like "Physical"/chemical alchemy, Sexual alchemy, and spiritual alchemy. Someone will certainly be coming in any moment to sperg out about how "LMAODUDEBRO Paracelsus and Newton and those guys were just a buncha eejits, alchemy was never about transmuting metals, maaaann."

>Because they think these are mutually exlcusive 'forms' of alchemy, rather than seeing the underlying harmony.

>They are retarded, do not understand even the vaguest of Hermetic principles, so you can safely ignore them. However, if you want to wrap one hand around their ego's dick while they cup its balls, feel free to indulge them in that endless ego-bation in which they incessantly partake.

Came here to say this, thank you
.
Here are the two biggest alchemical libraries on the internet

https://mega.nz/#F!jBk3nBwC!3kbcd3Yb0I1Dkw6GCBLY1A
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/uldbxpm2nyw7a

>>19487490
>"The buddhist sexual alchemy is the same as Daoist dual-cultivation, using a sexual partner to exchange energy."
Is there ANY tradition of sexual alchemy that focuses exclusively on masturbatory ritual, though? Also, maybe I need to read up a bit more, but I hardly got the impression that sex rites were considered to be taking place only between the two corporeal beings that are physically manifest at the time? Or am I mixing up Tantric praxes with Sex Alchemy in general?

>>19487488
A label and a poor one at that.

>>19487549
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has noticed the problem. they're like "shills" but instead of trying to market something they're trying to prevent people from broadening their perspective. I just had one of those moments not too long ago RE: The Mark of the Beast and the signs of NOX being contained therein, further indicating it as a blind for use of the ritual signs, etc. Like "Man I feel SOO fucking dumb for having looked at this for literally years and not having noticed it!" But if I had already made up my mind that it represented no more and no less than what I had personally decided it meant, I do not think the connection would have been made. Despite it having been quite literally spelled out for me. A closed mind can be an odd and volatile thing.

>>19487543
Though that only feels like meditation, traditions and rituals are useless because at the end of the day we will just wake up when we are ready. So everything that we do is just to mitigate the suffering before enlightenment not a road to it.

>>19487566
Not that anon, but Alchemy "Proper" doesn't really deal with theology, does it? Like, I know there were Gnostics and Catholics and Jews and 'pagans' (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) incorporating Alchemy into their systems, and we got a lot of interesting results out of that, but does "Alchemy" itself make assertions in this respect? Excuse me for exposing my ignorance so publicly. It's indecent, I tell ya!

>>19487576
I'm sorry, can you please help me out with which part of my post you're responding to?

>traditions and rituals are useless because at the end of the day we will just wake up when we are ready
Is a reductionist, puerile, facile, pseudo-Chaotic /fringe/-tier statement. Please do not try to refute this without something more substantial than personal opinion and speculation. It sounds like something self-professed "Chaotes" say to justify smoking bongs and collecting gib-me-dats all day, while never once performing ritual or ceremony or pretty much any magico-mystical activity except chronically whacking off onto chicken-scratch 'sigils' and failing daily at tulpamancy in an attempt to animate their waifu pillows.

>>19487543
Transmuting sexual energy is not exclusive to one doctrine, my guy. It's a cornerstone of greek gnosticism, classic alchemy and most eastern spiritual paths. It's -not- asceticism either, as detailed in White Tantra.

As this anon describes it from the Daoist point of view:
>>19487417
>you accumulate and transmute your sexual energy(jing) into qi, and then qi into spirit

What's your take on Kundalini, I wonder? I see you shitting all over autismic chaos magicians but you sound like a Thelemite to me.

>>19487488
An Alchemist is a Hermeticist and a Gnostic.

Thoth taught us of the true god the All.

But the Demiurge is a half god, the jealous god. He is the Chief Archon, the First Ruler. Seen as Saturn, Samael, Saklas, Yaldabaoth. He is a Blind Worm and a Cuck.

The Demiurge is the Lord over this Material Realm of Darkness. He is the one that wants to keep us with our short lives like a slave.

Alchemists are in search of what the Demiurge wants to keep from us.

Life.

>>19487627
I have indeed forgotten to throw my name on in this thread, but >>19487417
is not me. I'm assuming you were conflating our posts because you reference them "shitting all over autismic chaos magicians."

To be clear, my stance is not opposed to actual Chaos magicians, who read the Chaos Corpus and attain in some workable system before claiming to be "Chaotes." My stance is not opposed to those who syncretize systems to their benefit. My stance is not even opposed to using belief as a tool.
I AM opposed to
>People who use ITS CHAOS GUISE as an excuse for never actually getting to Work
>People who use Chaos Magick as a means of justifying their drug use (as if it needs to be justified! People who feel a need to 'justify' every pleasant thing they feel are not to be trusted)
>People who, under the pretense of Chaos Magick, just get really stoned and sit around while calling it "meditation"
>People who, under the pretense of Chaos Magick, think taking psychedelics is not only an alternative to, but a substitute for, ritual
>People who call themselves "Chaotes," yet think "Chaos" means "a bunch of random, slipshod shit thrown together half-assedly
>&c.

>>19487627
>Transmuting sexual energy is not exclusive to one doctrine, my guy
Please, tell me where I stated that it was? Because I don't see where I claimed it was only practiced within a single context. Nor do I see where I even implied that Sexual Alchemy is Asceticism. Christ, I'm even using a name, this shouldn't be hard to figure out. But I guess you would have had to have actually read the posts I was responding to, then used your mindbrain to put it all in context of the conversation, instead of just reading my post and assuming I was responding to OP or something.

>>19487596
Oh please, why stop projecting there if could've gone much further.

I'm basing myself on the seeming consensus that at the end of the road the left or right hand path are two sides of the same coin.

I'm not saying it all doesn't matter to excuse self destructing behavior.I'm just saying like with anything you can either overindulge or turn to asceticism.

If you go the path of hedonism you will just "suffer" the consequences of it when the bubble bursts, but at the end of it all you don't HAVE to make a conscious decision to advance towards enlightenment, there are many paths and not all of them are the same distance.

>>19487312
K go ahead and spend 20 grand putting together a lab so that you can smelt some metals thinking you're doing the great work while i do chinese inner alchemy and finish the work in a third of the time for none of the money. i mean yeah, i wont have some cool metals in the end but theres also no chance of blowing myself up like a retard.

>>19487774
When you only focus on Spiritual or Inner Alchemy you only do half of the Great Work.

You have to conjoin that with your Practical or Outer Alchemy to actually do anything.

>>19487783
which is why chinese alchemy is broad and involves physical practices

>>19487740
>"Projecting"
Look, I'm still trying to get you to answer
>I'm sorry, can you please help me out with which part of my post you're responding to?

from the last post. Now you're throwing more shit at me expecting me to sort thru the chaff. I'm gonna assume you're either mentally ill or on drugs, because every post you made, part of them seem to agree with what I said while being presented as arguments against it, part of them reference posts that were made by other people...it's just a mess anon.

>I'm just saying like with anything you can either overindulge or turn to asceticism.

I don't see how this contradicts anything I said, except I didn't use the term "overindulge."

>If you go the path of hedonism you will just "suffer" the consequences of it when the bubble bursts
Demonstrably false.

>>19487774

Look, we can acknowledge that alchemy was practiced in its micro-and macro-cosmic forms without getting into a pissing match about who's gonna try and get siddhis from what or who is pursuing "The True Great Work" (as if there is such a thing as a singular isolated task of which the Work is comprised!) I love how these conversations always go from "What is alchemy, actually? How was it practiced in different periods among different cultures" to "Haha you retard u r waist so much moneys on metals and labs" as if
>A. I actually did
>B. It would change how alchemy is defined and what alchemy is if I DID
>C. What ANYONE ACTUALLY DOES OR DOESN'T DO has ANYTHING to do with how alchemy is defined

I understand though, it can be difficult to make a coherent argument based on actual evidence. It's much easier to just screech about how you're smarter, more insightful, better prepared, and further along in the Work than anyone who disagrees with the conclusion you came to based entirely on your own personal feelies. I will warn you though, this latter method is rarely, if ever, effective in scientific, academic, or magico-mystical contexts. settings.

>>19487816
>hes doing alchemy for siddhis
ex dee

>>19487822
No but I'm PPRREETTTYY sure this guy is:
>>19487774
>>19487790
I never agreed with doing anything for the purpose of obtaining siddhis (I'm using the "magical powers" definition here)...and I know about a million people will try to call bullshit on this, but that's just how I was taught yoga, and learned to apply it to other mystical practices. I was kind of surprised to learn the rich history of
practices done with the expressed intention of obtaining siddhis, which goes quite far back. I was surprised how widespread it was/is, as I always thought not having an interest in them would lead to one getting the most benefit out of their practice, whatever that practice is, because then the practice is being done for its own sake. Ya learn something new every day, and I guess the day you stop learning is the day you die.

>>19487822
>>19487846
The reason I make that assumption is, the anon clearly has something to prove. Since this is anonymous, to whom? To themselves? Well, if you're Working for the sake of the Work, why get so defensive? We're all in this together. Not everyone gets the same siddhis from the same practices. hell, some people don't get them at all from some practices. But we're all working toward the same goal...why lash out in such defensiveness? Then go on the offense? Why turn it into a competition? Well this is where, in my theory, the anon is frustrated in their work somehow. According to my theory, when you put excessive attention on things like siddhis, you lose sight of the task at hand and can even forget what the Work is, as evidenced by
>>19487790
>>19487774
&.
Again, this is just a theory, and this is the only evidence I had to base it on. But as long as anon is wildly speculating out of the furthest depths of their colon, I figure I may as well add some conjecture of my own.

>>19487846
>>19487858
i could be frustrated with the work. or im trolling you because i think youre a retard. which could it be?

>>19487301
I'd also be interested in a beginner-text on Alchemy...I don't even know what exactly Alchemy means.

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>>19487877
Hmmm...

>>19487940
This just In:
"Retarded anon says something retarded:
In a not-so-stunning reversal, they claimed they were "only *pretending* to be retarded in order to make fun of the retardedly obvious retarded retard."

>>19487816
>I will warn you though, this latter method is rarely, if ever, effective in scientific, academic, or magico-mystical contexts. settings.

not that anon, but it looks as though things are in order to flip to where that later method IS the method.

>>19487954
not that guy, but seems you're a retard as well..maybe you two can form a club of some sort? "Hermetic Retards" would be a cool name tho

>>19487958
>>19487960

Even if it weren't for the post count, I recognize you by your complete inability to logically verbalize whatever thought it is you're attempting to express. Take your meds, dude.

>>19487975
you can easily recognize me except when you cant.
>>19487846
>>19487858
all the posts you linked here were me, trolling you.
>>19487958
>>19487960
these two arent me. is it surprising that people other than me think youre retarded?

Anyone who claims to be a student of alchemy, yet does not recognize the metaphors of Hermeticism for what they are, is not a neophyte alchemist or is severely failing at the Great Work.

The Great Work, turning lead into gold, the philosopher's stone: all narratives that arose at a time when gold and immortality were enough to tantalize many yet distract them with worldly goals that are unattainable without otherworldly learning. Alchemy, in all its forms, is the introspection into your own life, your own version of the Great Work (Truth) that underlies everything, and the overturning of things that keep you from achieving this (whether your ego, emotions, or others' intentional distraction through various facets of the material world.)

I think the named posters in this thread speak for themselves by their manner of address.

>>19488007
Wishful thinking. All alchemists, grom Zosimos to Fulcanelli did practical work and you need to be highly uneucated in the field to write this crap. It's really embarrasing.

>>19487993
>(Post response to one incoherent anon who can't seem to tell on thing from any other thing)
>(another anon jumps in)
> "HAHA that wasn't me retard!"
>But these other posts that don't make me look TOO autistic definitely were me
>"HA! Bet ya thought there was only ONE barley coherent autist to deal with in this thread!"
>(Finds audacity to use the "only *pretending* to be retarded" excuse, again.)

This is what our tax dollars are paying for, folks.

>>19488040
The fact that they define The Great Work as "Truth" also jumped out at me.

>>19488050
Considering half the posts in this thread are from you calling everyone a dumbass, and that your ego is so precious to you that you feel the need for individuality in a tibetan basket weaving anonymous forum. I'd say you really need to sort yourself out, bucko. Have some contact with the real world please.

>>19488050
>still under the impression that only one person thinks hes a retard
>posts incoherent mess of a post
i gotta hand it to you, youve managed to be so dumb that continuing to troll you no longer gives me pleasure but pity. i think were done here. filtered

>>19487673
So basically the Demiurge is the Devil/Satan from the Alchemist's point of view?

>>19488069
He always has been.

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>>19488040
They did practical work because they were doing proto-chemistry for various reasons. If you seriously think that one has to put together a lab or do chemistry on metals in order to transmute a literal philosopher's stone, then you're the embarrassment here.

>>19487397
This. there is point where you start seeing things horizontally (whole present plane) and realize all things are the same composed with elements. when you understand elements behaviour you can apply alchemy.

self-observation is the only truth.

>>19488061
>Considering that half the posts are...

Not even half of MY posts. Also, please show me where I used the term "dumbass." The most accusations I see of anyone being called any such thing are from Mr. LE EPIN TROLLOLOL. But I'm sure one post in anticipation of all the autism that did, indeed, come to fruition, is the same thing as calling everyone a dumbass for disagreeing with your personal feelpinions.
I've actually been out in the country, laying flooring with no internet access until just today. Thank you for your incredible display of compassion, though.

>>19488069
It depends on which alchemists. Some alchemists didn't have any conception of, let alone belief in, a demiurge. There were Muslim alchemists, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist... you name it.

If all magick can become true, how to use alchemy to create gold? I know, there is a lots of easier ways to create money by using Supernatural abilities, but have you ever succeeded creating gold as alchemists did few hundred years ago?

>>19488123
That's a good question. I would argue that scientific advances that have made it possible to do things such as synthesize diamonds or gold, is a form of alchemy. It's chemistry, too, of course. The thing is, there are some aspects of alchemy which today either appear or actually are pseudo-science, but there are some aspects of modern science which are also most definitely alchemical.

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What is the symbolism in this picture? He found another world?

>>19488134
This is a first time, when I have had a good answer and not just told how moron I am, thank you. I needed to check am I still at 4chan, did not feel so :)

Great thoughts. I personally do believe that within every myth, there is an experience behind them. If one has not create gold, it had just forgotten in few years. But if poeple succeeded doing it and got rich, of course story continues to next generations.

>>19488091
I never said i thought they suceeded in their endevors. Stop strawmanning. Hovewer that fucker is still far from the truth. Alchemy was always primarily practical in the west.

>>19488136
Yes he did as far as I see it. There are infinite amount of different worlds in the multiverse, and we seek them all the tine when we sleep or when we think about them.

The difference, at least I do believe, is that a person found a way to turn universe around in a way, that he could physically move from this world to another. Something as we call "teleporting". It is not hard to see other realities, but physically moving to one of these needs a strong leap of fate, usually succeeded after a well produced ritual, rite, prayer etc...

I am not trolling here. Universe exists because you observe it. Creating a different spacetime continuum trough a e.g. ritual, you can shift yourself to another dimensinal level as they guy do here.

I read a bit of capabilities of the philosopher's stone, and as far as my learnings of physics and the nature of reality, I do not see anything, that could not be possible.

>>19488157
That's cause western alchemy is a meme

>>19488155
I mostly agree with you. I also agree with the anon saying alchemical symbols and texts do in fact contain another meaning that is represented metaphorically. The thing is, these are both valid and intended, neither is meant to take precedence. Just as we do not exercise one muscle until it becomes disproportionately large and strong, we should not hold one doctrine above others, but rather put them equally to Work for us (though the manner in which they are utilized will vary greatly from person to person).

>>19488215
Too bad we don't have any surviving texts from India or the Far East indicating whether they partook in chemical alchemy alongside spiritual and sexual alchemy...or indicating whether they considered these separate practices or all just "alchemical"

>>19488251
>Too bad we don't have any surviving texts from India

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasayana

We do.

>>19488301
Mmm alchemy always makes me want Cinnabon

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My alchemy station
Post yours~~

>>19487301
>and what can I get out of it spiritually?
Everything.

I'm not exaggerating. Everything.

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>>19488349

will alchemy help me find a gf?

>>19490847
In the sense that Alchemy is about the Perfection of Mankind and makes you a better you.

>>19490718
Shit. Not even one goddamn pipette