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/Flat Earth Debunk/

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As per usual, no Flat Earth advocate in the last thread was able to present a mathematically sound equation or reproducible experiment which denies, undermines, or overturns modern understandings of physics, cosmology, and geography.

ITT I propose a few friendly suggestions:
>No gish gallops. Ten point maximum for the ease of ongoing discussion.
>No deflection. If you think a notion is false, don't change the subject, undermine it by presenting your math, experiments, and findings.
>No well-poisoning. Yelling about shills, jews, freemasonry, w/e, is only a diversion when asserting the mathematical or experimental soundness of a given postulate.

Here is a point by point refutation of EVERY single one of Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs". I invite anyone to challenge them:
http://roundearthsense.blogspot.com/2016/03/before-we-start-reading-proofs-few.html

I'm going to post some YT links, and thirty images. I invite any Flat Earther to refute any single one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoz5iWPrbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMooNFtFJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ0EKJWyl_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIglW-hlVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E43-CfukEgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJcZ-KoL9o
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>>19398444
Assertions for proof of geocentricity, refuted:

>>Sagnac expirement,
How?

>airy's failure
AFAIK this only undermines luminiferous aethyr so maybe EXPLAIN how it refutes heliocentricity.

>michelson morely expirement
Yet another experiment refuting luminiferous aethyr which I cannot clearly as refuting heliocentricity without YOUR help, if you're willing to parse it out with me.

>>balloon observations
OP of last thread had a high altitude observation with no fisheye that showed curvature.

>failure of foucalt pendulum replication
>>19340618
>there being a great deal of Foucault pendulums active throughout the world

>failure of cavendish replication
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWaYng2eRg
>AP Physics C students at Bishop O'Connell High School in Arlington County, Virginia recreate Henry Cavendish's famous 18th century experiment demonstrating the force of gravity on a small scale.

>cgi,composite nasa images
That proves nothing other than they use non photographic representations for illustrative purposes.

>disproves gravity as a force
Show me.
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>>19398452
>https://youtu.be/_4DqAnEpD98
>A man on the shore of a lake uses a telescope to watch a helicopter hovering over the opposite shore 6 miles away. The helicopter descends towards the ground and disappears from his view while still in the air. It ascends again, becomes visible to the observer, and reports an altitude above the lake of 24 feet at the point that it appears 'level' with the horizon.
>Interestingly, 8 inches x miles squared returns exactly 24 feet of obscured height at six miles. Or using the earth curvature calculator, 24 feet and 1/164th of an inch.
>See the table here: >>19340842
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>>19398454
>Show me some southern polar navigations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4V5PYO9wWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgYnTKkvyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSz2xzIyCzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaIiw0uKE-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ghEOD6iD_Y

>buuuut there's a large lack of evidence traveling the southern oceans...
http://theconversation.com/why-im-spending-three-months-sailing-right-around-antarctica-for-science-67782
http://www.acronautic.com/antartica-cup-ocean-race/
https://lisablairsailstheworld.com/antarctica-cup/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7v3HBkdpE8
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>>19398458
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>>19398466
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>>19398470
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrHsrhLqowsAIYbaNE7GcBg
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>>19398514
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>>19398516
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>>19398522
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>>19398530
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Good thread.
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>>19398541
Thank you.
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>>19398547
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>>19398553
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>>19398558
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Q-FuXJSTQ

Earth is flat, deal with it roundcucks
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>>19398567
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>>19398569
https://youtu.be/S-_U5Yhlcck

https://youtu.be/USdSe5-eoIc?t=6163
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>>19398588
>>19398569
https://youtu.be/f1WRi17Pgfk
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>>19398633
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>>19398645
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>>19398658
Last infographic in the set.
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>>19398580
>>19398597
have those fuckers and you actually watch the Skiba's video I posted? but I guess the atmosphere in his room was also bending the light when he did his experiment right?
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>>19398697
The first vid is a point by point takedown of Skiba.
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No one is responding to you because you have the intellect of a middle school child and the critical thinking skills of a carrot. You will not stop sucking the tit of government to consider alternatives. You refuse to review alternatives with an open mind, and bluntly shill for the agenda.

Fuck off.
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>>19398732
yea, conviniently pretending like the effect of magnification doesn't exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Q-FuXJSTQ&t=1s
36:30 till the end. roundcucks BTFO
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>>19398752
Refute anything, literally anything, that's been posted.

>>19398773
It's not the really the lens that makes the difference in the relative sizes of the objects, it's the camera's distance from the objects. The zoom lens just allows you to see up close how distance has affected their apparent relative sizes.

It's optics, not "atmospheric lensing"

The "magnification" effect of the building you show at 38:45 has nothing to do with the atmosphere. It's purely an optical phenomenon caused by distance and lens focal length. Photographers are very familiar with it. It's called "perspective distortion"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FSddvZ3SLg
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>>19398752
>sucking the tit of government
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This is 10th grade math, not NASA papers.
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>>19398811
59:00
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>>19398864
>It's not the really the lens that makes the difference in the relative sizes of the objects, it's the camera's distance from the objects.
>The "magnification" effect of the building you show at 38:45 has nothing to do with the atmosphere. It's purely an optical phenomenon caused by distance and lens focal length. Photographers are very familiar with it. It's called "perspective distortion"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FSddvZ3SLg [Embed]
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>>19398872
>>19398864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLMvsBHQGB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbsbJa682XE
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>>19398752
>projecting this hard

There are no "alternatives" to a round earth. Stop sucking Eric Dubay and Orphan Red tits before you slam your fat fingers on your keyboard.
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>>19398877
ok fuck it, there is too much semantics going on, and seems like every case is different
how about laser tests proving flat surface?
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>>19398993
>how about laser tests proving flat surface?
https://www.metabunk.org/lake-balaton-laser-experiment-to-determine-the-curvature-of-the-earth-if-any.t7780/
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>>19398887
>Orphan Red
>when the shill gives you a new titty waifu flat earther to look into
thanks faggot
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>>19398444
Stop making flat earth threads.
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>>19399082
stop saying it's a globe :)
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>>19399082
This isn't an FE thread; it's an educational refutation thread.

>>19399086
Post proofs.
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>>19399019
>muh refraction
you apply that explanation to anything
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>>19399101
There are actually a LOT of really good point by point takedowns of the weakness of dude's "test" at every level of observation.
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>>19398752
Reminder that the hollow earth is a more viable alternative than the flat earth.
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>>19399123
hollow earth is an "establishment friendly" alternative to normal earth
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>>19399123
>>19399090
>Post proofs.
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>>19399123
noone gives a fuck about hollow earth, it doesn't change anything.
flat earth is the way to go, can you imagine the shitstorm when "they" admit it's actually flat, shit would be epic
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>>19398444

Hey good job OP. I skip flat earth threads 100% of the time because of the sheer hostility and lack of productive discussion. Haven't read this thread yet but great job, good idea and well put
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>>19398444
These people, they give me cancer. Forget the irrefutable science, the tangible observations that anyone can carry out themselves. Forget the simple experiments which can be done by any individual at any time. The one thing that never comes up in these arguments are sailors. Are all sailors part of this vast conspiricy?
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>>19398752
>OP posts tons of evidence for round earth and refutation of flatcuck arguments
>ignore all of it and say "just open your mind shill"
You're too stupid to realize that you're stupid
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>>19398444
Flat earthers are just butthurt christians who are too small minded to accept their pathetic religion is stupid and wrong. The flat earth societies are paid shills by the church to push their mongoloid agenda.
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>>19399758
Not even the vast majority of Christians are flat-earthers. It's literally just contrarianism. Hell, look at >>19399366
>can you imagine the shitstorm when "they" admit it's actually flat
People "believe" this shit to feel different and special.
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I really really wonder why this topic gets so many people mad
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flat earthers are Russian disinfo agents whos mission is to distract x so it cant focus on more serious topics
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>>19400386
>russians hacking /x/
lol that's a new one
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>>19400386
I don't know about the Russian part, but I think this is true of a lot of conspiracy theories. If you try to disprove a conspiracy theory, you're met with obstinance. Far better for a disinfo agent to simply add fuel to theories that don't compromise their agenda.
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>>19400393

trace the epistemology of flat earther ideology and its proponents
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The very second you start thinking that the Earth is flat is the same exact second you think about sucking a big fat black cock
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>>19400403
ancient cultures? Enoch?
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>>19400386
>>19400398
>>19400393
I saw one flattard shilling for Fomenko's "New" Chronology.
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>>19400413

more recent itterations..the websites and theorists themselves

and ask those who bring it up WHERE AND WHEN did they FIRST hear/learn of flat earth theory, and then they should be questioning the source of the source
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>>19400428
it's like you want me to think it's a recent meme made to troll
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>>19400441

its like people came up with it on their own and didnt first become aware of it through lampooning in the mainstream media of flat earthers who were in fact Soviet Disinfo agents, or started visiting skeptical websites/ reading skepitcal magazines ( again, disinfo propaganda outlits) as children
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>>19400419
>The New Chronology also contains a reconstruction, an alternative chronology, radically shorter than the standard historical timeline, because all ancient history is "folded" onto the Middle Ages. According to Fomenko's claims, the written history of humankind goes only as far back as AD 800, there is almost no information about events between AD 800–1000, and most known historical events took place in AD 1000–1500.
I'd never heard of this before, that's some fuckin' shit.
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>>19400450
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCqkPFcXsSdtyQ4EvUXWemQ/videos

^RVTruth, a week ago, was "RussianVids Truth" before I started pointing out, to a lot of people, what the name was. Tons of FE vids.
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>>19400451

Now I HAVE seen this become its own thread a couple times, and honestly I would prefer debating it to flat earth threads because it is compelling when you consider calender shifts, not to mention conversion of different religious calanders
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>>19400441
Not quite (the Flat Earth Society was founded in 1956), but I've definitely noticed more discussion of it lately. It's been a meme (in the sociological sense) for a long time, it's just been gaining traction/power lately.
It'd never occurred to me that it might be a disinfo op, though. I figured it had just risen in prominence naturally.
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Post flatfags blowing a gasket.

https://youtu.be/SPow0lYwj_c
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Good work, OP. Have a bump.
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>>19400509
Thanks :3
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>>19400509
>>19400512
Yup, keep this thread bumped. Flat-tards need to have their views adequately challenged (not that any will click this thread anyways).
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>>19400562
>>19400512
>>19400476
>>19400476
we did it reddit!
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>>19398444
Gyros won't work if earth is not flat
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>>19400582
>Gyros won't work if earth is not flat
>>19399090
>Post proofs.
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>>19400582
>that image
Do you not understand how acceleration works? Inward acceleration produces circular motion. The force of lift produced by a plane sufficiently counteracts gravity to produce a net force—and consequently, acceleration—that's conducive to rotational motion at the appropriate radius.
Also >>19400590
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95% of Flat Earthers are Females.

The other 5% are Beta Cucks who listen to their Moms stories.
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>>19400627
The vast majority of FEers posting vids or participating in G hangout debates are male. The "FE Full Retard" series shows one or two females for every four to six males.
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>>19399123
Redpill me on the hollow earth theory. Never actually heard of it. How does it work? What are its proposals etc. Im genuinely curious if only for knowledge sake to know what it's about.
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I propose a trans antarctic flight to disprove this shit once and for all, pic related
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>>19400675
>>19398458
>>Show me some southern polar navigations.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4V5PYO9wWw [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgYnTKkvyg [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSz2xzIyCzI [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaIiw0uKE-s [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ghEOD6iD_Y [Embed]
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>>19400641

That just shows a Bias of males on the internet.

Lots of Women are flat earthers but in the real world they wont admit to it.

Flat Earth is Female Logic.
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Jewish puppetry is strong here. Earth IS flat faggots. Find out yourself , research . Also, living on a blue ball moving in a vacuum with other "billion" crapshits is more funnier than ur definitin of funny. Stop licking govt. stinky asshole and research . And for fuk's sake stop believing in CGI . You faggots will believe anything they will show you and you wonder why 1% rule 99%. Heil Hitler and fuck jews.
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>>19401594
>Find out yourself , research .
>Can't refute anything OP has posted
Mods should just start banning flattards from /x/ desu. They're either trolls or a complete retards who shouldnt be allowed to use computer and internet
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No debates were sparked from this thread. Poor flat earthers, can't stand up to facts
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>>19400256
>People "believe" this shit to feel different and special.
Nothing says 'special' like forming conclusions based on observation, instead like normal people would do - swallow everything the mainstream is forcing down their throats.
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>>19401627
>op makes a false claim
>'huh you flattards can't refute it, ergo earth is round'
dome rotates and naturally octans does with it, the only way it could've be used to debunk the flat earth is if it was visible from all 3 points at the same time, which is not the case
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>>19400675
if earth was truly a globe, this would've happened a long time ago, but it never has because earth is flat and antarctic is not a continent, but a ring that surrounds our flat earth, holding the oceans in
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>>19398444
produce a curvature and you will debunk the flat earth
pro tip: you can't
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>>19401960
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>>19400709
>I'm a virgin who is threatened by women: the post
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>>19401958

Yoir a faggot
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>>19401958
Participate in the Antarctica race, and if it takes less than 78,000 miles (circumference of FE according to the FE society), you've proved it's NOT flat (approx 11,000 miles in circumference for Antarctic coast according to RE, 14,000 miles in the yacht race as it doesn't hug the coast that closely).

>buuuut there's a large lack of evidence traveling the southern oceans...
http://theconversation.com/why-im-spending-three-months-sailing-right-around-antarctica-for-science-67782
http://www.acronautic.com/antartica-cup-ocean-race/
https://lisablairsailstheworld.com/antarctica-cup/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7v3HBkdpE8
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the more you try to hide it the more attention it gets
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>>19402277
Hide what?
I'm trying to get FEers to post their information, plainly, for the entire board to review, but thus far after almost a thousand posts in four threads, the FlatFriends have refused to post anything remotely close to a mathematical proof or a repeatable observation that can either be replicated or stand up to high school trig.
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doing awesome work, OP
you'll probably wont change anyone's mind cause anyone who believes in the flat earth is already too retarded to accept new evidence but still, good work!
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>>19402289
samefag
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>>19401594
low effort false flag
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>>19402294
okay bro
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>>19402166

Ive taken the virginity of girls.
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>>19401594
(((Flat Earth))) is the jew PsyOp you shilling piece of shit
https://kendoc911.wordpress.com/911disinfo/misc-disinfo/flat-earth/
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they're clearly all trolling at this point
reality doesn't agree with them, there's no way any rational person could believe it
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>>19402673
Nice argument.
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>>19402646
If flat earth is a hoax to discredit other conspiracy theories, it's not a good one. I think flat earth is nonsense because it sounds like stupid bullshit. If another theory sounds like stupid bullshit, I won't believe it on it's own dumb merits, not because flat earth is retarded.
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>>19402717
well it's sucessfull because many religious and right leaning types are buying into it and it make them look like retarded rednecks and full blown idiots, just as the progressives and leftists like to paint them
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>>19398993
Just gonna brow beat you with words and theories and not one expirement until you stop giving a shit .

the earth is flat, im over it.
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>>19402717
Flat earth is the conspiracy of conspiracies.
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>>19402579
Sure thing alpha dawg. I totally believe you
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I wonder why no FlatFriend has risen to the challenge?

Surely it's because they're all putting the finishing touches to their forthcoming article in the Nature journal which will blow out the standard model once and for all!
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>>19403007
I'm sad. A real working flat model would be fun. But every time I challenge them to make a real map and not just borrow the distorted as fuck azimuthal projection they disappear.
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>>19398530
This is the main one that would actually mean something to a "but I can't see the curvature" flerfer
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Guys please, i need your support.
My old man became flat earther and i can't live with that.
He refuses absolutely every conceivable argument and makes ultimate strawman out of his youtube videos + "supposed education" + religion and muh ultimate worldwide CGI conspiracy theory.
There is absolutely no saving for him but i want to know how to cope with this,
Please help me friends,
I swear to God, as soon as commercial flights to orbit are popular i am paying to send him up there.
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if earth is flat why my peepee dont come on other side when I put peepee in dirt
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>>19404030
Ask him if he still wants you to pay attention to his wisdom he is willing to go over the debunk Flat Earth proposals. It's not about authority, it's about learning to think critical in order to protect yourself and your family.
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flat earth btfo

>>>/vg/185209812
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Flat Earth is a psy-op. Talking about Flat Earth is a psy-op. Debunking Flat Earth is a psy-op. Believing people believe Flat Earth is a psy-op. Please, airforce tards, stop falling for psy-ops.
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>>19402256

sound scompeling
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>>19400463
yea it's my favorite type of thread.
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>>19398444
>muh science
>muh equations
>flat earthers are retardsssss!!!!
I didn't bother with the other pictures because your OP one is flat out wrong and you haven't done enough research. If you did you would know that the theory of the dome can explain most phenomenon.

If you were just a little less insulting from the start.

>diversion when asserting the mathematical or experimental soundness of a given postulate.
I think it's also cute that it's only bad when disagreeing with given mathematics, yet not equally bad when assuming your mathematics are correct.
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>>19403007
because we don't give a shit for reading your spam when we;ve already made our minds based on other evidence.

retrofitting your debunks on our evidence we gathered months ago is boring.

new chronology is where im at now. Either catch up or fuck off.
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>>19401668
we have better things to do than arguing with slowbro.

>>19401594
this
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>>19406492
>yet not equally bad when assuming your mathematics are correct.
Refute them.
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>>19406492
>If you did you would know that the theory of the dome can explain most phenomenon.

How do satellites work? How does GPS technology work? How do long-range radio communications work?
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Explain this phaggots
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Really makes me wonder how (((NASA))) can manage to cobble together enough cgi animators to create hundreds of hours of footage of the earth along with (((NASA)))'s large budget for faking specific programs and rocket launches.

Oh well, guess i'll just get that astronomy degree so (((NASA))) with have to pay me that hush money.
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>>19398444

Why are you trying so hard?
Seems suspicious.
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>>19406502

your emotions dont mean anything, its not about how you FEEEEEL, its about what is real

you are wrong
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>>19398444
Wouldn't the sun move north south east then west circulatory if it was flat instead of east to west
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>>19406767
land based antennae
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>>19398444
>no Flat Earth advocate in the last thread was able to present a mathematically sound equation
gee how FUCKING SURPRISING AND TOTALLY UNEXPECTED
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If the Earth was flat, then where the fuck is the edge?
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>>19407092
All over /x/
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>>19400582
I never understood this. At a certain height the air thins and lift is harder to maintain height. If the plane was tilted up, let's say, it would fall on it's own back down to where lift could occur (so long as it was still moving forward fast enough to pick up lift again, otherwise it would just fall out of the sky) That's how it would work regardless of the shape of earth. That's just how lift works.
Also when walking, we move forward without having to take a step down to prevent from walking out into space
Plus if the earth is a sphere and you go out further (miles up into the air away from the surface) from the sphere wouldn't the curve be even less noticeable as the diameter increases meaning you'd have to turn down even less (if you had to) to keep it level
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>>19398516
>notice how the flat earth model shows the sun getting smaller as it recedes.

here's some footage that shows exactly that. your picture on the left actually doesn't show how the sun sets, you've never been outside, nor seen a sunset.

the rest of your infograhpics tearing apart the azimuthal projection are intellectaully dishonest. each square from the north pole to the south pole are actually the same distance despite being in the shape of pie slices, in actuallity the azimuthal projection the tip of the pie is technically the same exact width, length, and surface area as the wide end of the pie.

the earth is stationary, and flat, covered by a glass dome.
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>>19407242
Turns out delta is just a shit airline, Qantas among others offers direct flights with only a connection in Auckland.
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>>19407396
Additionally you can check flightradar right now.
LAN800 from AKL to SCL and ANZ31 fron EZE to AKL are both on flight paths taking them south down near antarctica.
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Your wasting your time, OP
Most of them are just shitposting and the genuine ones are actually crazy
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the earth is not a ball, get over it globe shills
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Instead of trying to refute a clearly illogical point, we should be looking into the psychology of why a person would choose to believe something that they know is wrong.
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>>19407252
I'd like to see a telescope do what is shown on the bottom there
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>>19407242
this is actually a huge misrepresentation of the azimuth projection and the dimensions it describes. each square from tip in the north pole to the antactic ice barrier is an equal distance and rea despite its varying size

>>19407438
>>19407396
see my post and >>19407131
it turns out no one has ever corrrectly understood the dimensions of the azimuthal projections. the distance between south america and new zealand is actually the same istance as the eastern US to eastern europe (8 blocks)
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>>19407799
So let me get this straight. You can somehow see the flat earth lamp float away from a specific place in Africa, but this can somehow not be repeated in south america, australia or anywhere else in the southern hemisphere. And somehow antarctica is comparatively the same size as the comparable area in the north, except not. Either the azimuthal projection is an entirely wrong model or the earth isn't flat.
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>>19407848
>>19407131
Flattards are too dumb to live
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>>19407131
>the earth is stationary, and flat, covered by a glass dome.
oh sure. what's the name of the turtle again?
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>>19407799
>the distance between south america and new zealand is actually the same istance as the eastern US to eastern europe
>>19398454
>>19398458
>>19398479
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>>19407799
>>19398444

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw
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>>19407581
>>19407252
>>19398530
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>>19398444
I think there are no real flat Earth "believers". There are just people who troll and fool around. Why I think so? Because no one can be t h a t stupid. I put them in the same bag with people who would claim that My Little Pony is real.
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>>19408105
>correction people are that stupid.
>the believers of flat earth are real
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>>19408105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUL6nubFCc8

Here's three hours solid of someone being T H A T stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUL6nubFCc8
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THE EARTH IS SHAPED LIKE A HILLARY BOOB NOT FLAT LIKE DRUMPF'S BUTT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>19408105
yes there is a share of trolls among them but don't underestimate human stupidity. Also there are hundreds of prof. made websites out there all propagating this shit. that's why I beleive it's a PsyOp by governments or services not just some tinfoil loonies.
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>>19408222
trips of shillery
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>>19408232
every fag who propagates (((flat earth))) pysop is a jew shill faggot
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>>19408105
>I think there are no real flat Earth "believers". There are just people who troll and fool around.

keep telling yourself that.

were not the ones with cognitive dissonance.

not everyone can comprehend the unified field
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>>19406951
confirmed shill just replies with no greentext or point.

literally take your own post and applyy it to every post in this thread.
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>>19406554
Ohhh it's this tripfag again...
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>>19398444

flat earth advocates are mentally ill; they do not require concrete numbers or metrics to believe in something.
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>>19404030
>as soon as commercial flights to orbit are popular

never gonna happen.
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Geocentric LOVE to all .Forgot the Bedford level expirement.Great thead been tryin to debunk FE 4 over a year thanxs but no thanx you were of no help at all.
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>>19408302
What is this, a conspiracy for ants?
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>>19398811
>Refute anything, literally anything, that's been posted.


please refute me sempai, I need flat earther validation even though youre all mentally ill shills who can't do math.
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>>19408296
Ain't seeing them refutations, matey.
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>>19400709
>Flat Earth is Female Logic.

balhead science
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>>19408328
cleaning up shit, is harder than pulling it out of your ass.

>>19345258
>>19345234
>>19345222
>>19345203
>>19345198
>>19345175
>>19345164
>>19345149
>>19344696
>>19344660
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>>19408351
>>19345248
>>19398633

>>19345241
Covered previously, I'm uncertain why it "would not work" when the image is of average yearly temp and the tropics are heated evenly on the Wheel of the Year, while there's been zero mechanistic breakdown of WHY a flat earth sun would migrate from the center to the exterior like that.

>>19345234
I'm not here for moon landing shit, and I'm not super familiar with the differences in retouches v. outright fabrication v. artifaction.

Suffice it to say I find it incredibly suspect that all images are "too low quality", but then when they're not, they're all CGI. I also find it suspect to imagine that there are hundreds of thousands of aerospace physicists and not one has become so disillusioned with the hollow life of making fake CGI after spending ten years on the academic treadmill and blown the whistle on a conspiracy that it would take millions working in concerted effort to hide.

>>19345222
Camera parameters? Altitude?

>>19345203
Literally a break in cloudcover over water, allowing a more reflective patch of terrain to be seen. Again, covered in a previous thread.

>>19345198
Already covered IN that thread, not in a previous:
https://www.metabunk.org/crepuscular-angles-and-the-flat-idea.t7360/

>>19345175
Again, directly covered in that thread:
>>19345202

>>19345164
>>19345196
Again, directly covered in that thread. See also:
>>19398454

>>19344696
See literally the next reply:
>>19344758
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Remember when people thought the world was round, the world was round?
Remember when people thought the world was round, the world was round?
Everything spins, everything spins on my head
Everything spins, everything spins, everything spins on my head
Everything spins, everything spins, everything spins on my head
On my compact disc
Everything spins, everything spins from my head 'til my motion sickness
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>>19408393
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Here's a fucking equation for you roundtard.

Earth = Flat

Suck it. Jesus says it's flat and so all your science will just see you being anally violated by Xargoth the defowler while Satan himself fucks your mouth.
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>>19398752
not that anon but having an open mind has nothing to do with it. it has to work having some semblance of a brain. the Earth is ummm fucking round. idiot
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>>19402104
That's a great picture
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>>19408488
cgi
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>>19408435
and yet a bigger idiot emerges. we may have a winner.
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>>19408435
change tactics
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>>19408373
>I'm not here for moon landing shit, and I'm not super familiar with the differences in retouches v. outright fabrication v. artifaction.

so you don't know shit and will ignore all the space fakery, yet you think you're such a know it all you'll post thread after thread of bullshit like you have it figured out.

got it.
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>>19408702
he's gonna try to explain that away also as some kind of illusion, or just say you can't refute his math based entirely on heliocentricity being real.

the best way to win this debate is wait until ballheads start get curious as to when they'll get to space or when the Antarctica treaty expires.

So give it time. nasa is gonna slip up again like they did so far.

call me a jew shill idgaf, not like they'll ever name the jew in public
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>>19398665
>they did not have the technology to images like this
Bullshit.
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>>19400709
Why did you indent your post?
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>>19401958
>holding the oceans in
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>>19408692
https://www.space.com/9337-conspiracy-debunked-nasa-photoshops-images-good-reason.html

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-blue-marble-photos-show-a-changing-earth.t6616/
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>>19408702
Here I recommend you use a bowditch equation that is used by pilots etc though the value varies due to refraction. The standard is 1.32 as the factor for including standard refraction. It's really quite simple take the square root of your first altitude and mulitply it by 1.32. Do the same with the second altitude. Then add them together and that will give you the max distances that you can see between two points with that elevation/altitude. In this case you would be able to see over 280 miles between these two locations which lines up perfectly with the amount of the mountain we are seeing from this distance. Now why is it no one bothered to ask the question why aren't we able to see the entire mountain instead of just the very top? The fact that there is obstruction of most of the mountain is absolutely damning proof against any flat earth model.

What I do find amusing however is that you include the angle which is of course measurable and shows perfectly that we are indeed on a globe with a curved surface.

Your calculations assume the observer was at sea level but the observer was near or on the top of East Lion which is 5269 feet tall. Calculations would put the hidden height of Mt. Rainier from East Lion at about 7227 feet leaving much of Mt. Rainier's 14409 foot peak to be seen.

So again the math all supports the globe here. Flat earthers can try to ignore refraction and measurable curvature all they way but when they try to make baseless claims like we see in this video its just sad.
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>Samuel Rowbotham tries to measure curvature in the New Bedford River.
>Screws up and can't find curvature
>claims earth is flat
>Wallace challenges him to bet, that he can find curvature
>Rowbotham accepts
>Wallace goes to New Bedford River
>measures curvature
>Rowbotham's problem was he forgot to account for refraction
>Rowbotham BTFO
>cries like a bitch
>welches on his bet, like a bitch

Flat earthers- forgetting about refraction for 150 years.
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>>19408820
>hey guys relax, Nasa photoshops it's images of space for a god science reason, no way it's fake, sorry we lost the moon landing footage, use swimming pools for space walks,zero g planes for space station footage, and faked the challenger deaths though, that was for a good reason too.
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Debunk this:
https://youtu.be/lgPzqjm5Wog
https://youtu.be/PKs7MpAirL0
https://youtu.be/zm56dTZRSus
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>>19408975
>https://youtu.be/lgPzqjm5Wog [Remove]
https://youtu.be/h-qyUT1j8p4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvL4OHOJ0Vc
>>19398530
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>>19408848
>bowditch equation

...never heard of it - closest I can find is the Lissajous curve - but I'm failing to see whatever the hell you are talking about after you invoke this magic "bowditch" equation. Could you give more background?


As far as the rest of your schizophrenic response...I'm tempted to point out to the rest of us - this might be the first evidence of bot shills responding to these threads....

Did you even watch the video?

The two mountains in question are:

Barre des Écrins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_des_%C3%89crins

Pic de Finestrelles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pic_de_Finestrelles

>Mt. Rainier from East Lion at about 7227 feet leaving much of Mt. Rainier's 14409 foot peak to be seen.

Last I checked Mt. Rainier was in Washington. ...in the United states. What the fuck are you talking about?
>Your calculations assume the observer was at sea level

No - it's at the peak. ...as stated here:
https://beyondhorizons.eu/2016/08/03/pic-de-finestrelles-pic-gaspard-ecrins-443-km/


Is your brain exploded ..or? What?
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>>19409034
>this might be the first evidence of bot shills responding to these threads....
Yes, I'm a Palantir curated and persona managed bot who gets paid specifically to rustle your jimmies.

Also, pardon my conflation of two similar videos that Rob posted, hence the Rainier ref.

In either case:
https://youtu.be/iLjUUSbXb_w
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>>19408848
Every person who actually believes in a flat Earth is beyond sad. Literraly can't imagine what life is like for them.
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>>19409090
this, they all are fat virgin trump supporters who jack off to anime, city people who voted for hillary know the earth is a speck of dust flyinhg in space and support the NWO
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>>19409146
Wow you sure showed him with that half hearted strawman.
I hear globe earthers are also atheist fedoras, m'lady! I sure don't want to be one of those so I'll join the flat earth community.
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>>19409146
top kek
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>>19408975
>moon moves west to east
>therefore the shadow moves west to east

It's not really hard to figure out.

Yes, in the flat earth model where the earth is stationary and the moon moves east to west, the eclipse wouldn't work.

I love how FEers are always debunking their own model.
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>>19409186
have fun in a community of the dumbest people on the....round Earth.
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>>19409208
But... both models are round.
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>>19408373
>Again covered in that thread

Thanks for clearing that up!

This is great evidence you are supplying!
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>>19409562
Care to refute either that link or the other two I posted rather than complain that you don't like the artistry of some doodles a STEM professor made for class?
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>>19408023
this video is wrong, he inaccurately and incorrectly measures the distance of australia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCWz5na8d1k

>>19408018
you're also wrong for the same reason, you inaccuratley and incorrectly measure and represent the distances projected on the azumuthal projection, see video i posted. all your infographs are intellectually dishonest

see pic related, in the azimuthal projection the red and blue lines are actually the same distance, each block is technically the same size.

>>19407848
you're an idiot. and your shits all fucked up.
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>>19409807
ok, am i missing something here? if the grids towards the antarctica are skewed to be triple the width, they are being skewed because they represent dimensions on a globe, and this map is displayed on a disc. therefore if we account for the skewing and say these grids towards antarctica are the same size as the ones near the arctic, all we've done is created a ball again.
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>>19409509
Yeah. Because...the Earth...is...fucking round.
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>>19409840
you're missing the theological implications of the geocentric model. I'm surprised you haven't taken the flat earth pill yet with the archive you keep.

the ball in itself is the disc shaped earth wrapped around a ball. its a dirty lie. the ancients weren't so stupid as to not be able to discern the shape and movement of the earth, its a stationary flat disc covered by a glass dome.
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>>19409924
>the ancients weren't so stupid as to not be able to discern the shape and movement of the earth
Yeah that's how they eventually figured out it's fucking spherical
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>>19409948
you're so wrong on so many levels. Round is still a circle. curvature doesn't exist, neither does gravity.

the bigger issue is that they thought... knew, it was stationary.
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>>19409959
gravity doesn't exist. holy shit. fuck me kill me now. the collosal idiots that believe in these dumbass flat Earth theories.
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>>19409959
Describe how in the blue fuck light is supposed to bend that way.
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it doesn't even fucking matter. we're all dying as it is, fags
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>>19410037

there are pyhsicists actually working on math models where they can explain our world with big G.

because even they know it's a fucking lie, u twat.
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>>19410037
don't worry bro, you've never had an organic thought in your life.

>>19410046
its not bending?
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>it's not flat so let me spend all day posting about flat earth
Globehead logic

Paid shill. Earth is 100% flat
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>@Ape of !Th0tH..7io

Why are you a blindly devout round earth thumper?

Are you a neckbeard basement dweller?

What sort of scientific education have you had?

Ask any mathematician personally - not over the internet - if a flat earth model is possible. Have you done this?

You and OP(probably the same) have an obsessive compulsion to quell this line of questioning. It is truly scary if you are NOT paid to troll over this topic in multiple forums across the internet.

>yeah, I've seen you around.

To the observers: I have personally derived the field equations as part of my formal education and can say justly - observation open to interpretation still exists in our modern era. The refusal of such goes AGAINST science and truth; it only speaks in support of an agenda that does not further mankind's pursuit of truth.

@Ape of !Th0tH..7io - your fear truth that may lead to your acceptance of god. I say you can not know without proper judgement and consideration.

You are a charlatan. You fear academia - and what direction it might take; leaving you behind in the ashes of corporate greed.
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>>19410203
in what faggoty have you undegone academic training? I'm friends with a university physics professor who fell off his chair when I told him there are people who seriously believe the Earth is flat. showed him some of these threads. he lives it. keep em coming! Can't wait to tell him to look at this idiotic nonsense.
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>>19410203
>Are you a neckbeard basement dweller?
I've lived away from my parents for fifteen years and am gainfully employed at a museum.

>What sort of scientific education have you had?
Archaeology (spent time at the SEM, TEM, doing x-ray diffractions for trace element analysis, etc), Neuropsych (psychopharm, grad neuroanatomy) Stats (Now at five grad level courses split between psych, social science, and administrative management).

>if a flat earth model is possible
Everything is possible. Only few things are verified as workable.

>Have you done this?
Yes, well physicist. See >>19410225

>field equations
Neat, in what contexts exactly? Ever work with tensors?
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>>19398444
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Evidence in which flat Earth believers do not have.
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>>19410244
>Archaeology

Why is it ok to fake dinosaur skulls? Isn't that just creating science fiction?
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>>19410270
>no flat earth evidence
You're welcome to dispute the midnight sun if you can

https://youtu.be/LjvtmzbEgm8
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>>19410279
>implying archaeologists are paleontologists
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>>19410290
>implying you're aren't allowed to have an opinion being in a similar field
>employed at a museum

Care to answer my question?

Why is it ok to fake dinosaur skulls? Isn't that just creating science fiction?
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>>19410244
thanks for the response. I'm not going to make this a dick measuring contest.

I want you to tell me what sort of exposure in physics and mathematics that is needed in archaeology beyond newtonian.

Re: >>19410225
This is the normal response when introduced. Most do not publicly disclose their private thoughts for fear of academic persecution.

tensors work great to describe relations of geometric vectors
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>>19410301
>Why is it ok to fake dinosaur skulls?
Well, seeing as how the originals are often fragile enough to have to be layered in glue and plaster just to hook to a copter, I think their reasoning is "man if we make a cast of this puppy we can distribute a dozen copies to museums who want one without endangering this one of a kind we're gonna put on semipermanent display."

Plenty of museums have (mostly) full fossilized skellies.
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>>19410324
>that is needed in archaeology beyond newtonian.
I got an eight week crash course on nucleonics as a part of my archaeometric training. I'll be the first to admit I'm not a turbomath nerd, but I can damn well get by.

My actual problem for advanced shit is like field/quantum is an inability to even start visualizing movements on atypical manifolds and a general weakness in middle/advanced Calc which I'm sure I could fix with a year of memorization but it gets to the point where I can think of few reasons to bother.

>tensors work great to describe relations of geometric vectors
Yeah I know, Penrose's Road to Reality turned me on to at least TRYING to grok this crap but again, I'm hard pressed to think of a real reason to do it.
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>>19410336
You misunderstood my question.

I don't give a shit if they want plaster copy REAL skulls. My problem is artistic renditions -- creating a skull and body based on ONE TOOTH is not enough data to reassemble an accurate replica.

When I say fake, I mean "artificially replicate".
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>>19410363
>>19410336

>“Most people believe that dinosaur skeletons displayed in museums consist of real dinosaur bones. This is not the case. The real bones are incarcerated in thick vaults to which only a select few highly placed researchers hold a key, which means that NO independent researcher has ever handled a tyrannosaurus rex bone. When people unaffiliated with the paleontological establishment attempt to gain access in order to study these dinosaur bones, they are met with refusal upon refusal … Only around 2100 dinosaur bones sets have been discovered worldwide, and out of these, only 15 incomplete Tyrannosaurus Rex bone sets have been found. These dinosaur bone sets have never formed a complete skeleton, but from these incomplete bones sets, paleontologists have constructed a hypothesis about the appearance of the whole skeleton, which they have modeled in plastic. If thousands of longnecks and large carnivorous reptiles had really roamed Earth, we wouldn’t only have found 2100 dinosaur bone sets, but millions of bones, with ordinary people tripping over them when digging in their vegetable patches.” -Robbin Koefoed, “The Dinosaurs Never Existed”
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>>19410374
>“Most people believe that dinosaur skeletons displayed in museums consist of real dinosaur bones. This is not the case. The real bones are incarcerated in thick vaults to which only a select few highly placed researchers hold a key, which means that NO independent researcher has ever handled a tyrannosaurus rex bone.
Dude. Sue is on display all day every day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_(dinosaur)

As far as these places being inaccessible, my museum as about 50k objects in our geo collection, including bajillions of fossils including a few small dino bits, and I ROUTINELY give out tours to my non-expert buddies of the interior of the archive after hours.
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>>19410363
that image, that's how those brown devils create all those diseases that become pandemics. somebody please drop napalm on wherever that is.
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>>19410111
cunt. gravity is real. accept it. if you don't you are an even bigger idiot than this thread already thinks. please stop you're inane pseudo college girl rhetoric.
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>>19410391
>>19410391

Care to answer my question?

Why is it ok to fake & recreate dinosaur skulls out of thin air? Isn't that just creating science fiction?
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>>19410558
dinosuars are actually real you fool.
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>>19410627
So you're convinced dinos are real because of faked skulls and pots with pictures?
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>>19410670
that and cultural references to large lizard like creatures on each continent, australia and africa come to mind since there are still dinosaur sightings in the congo, and dragons in europe.
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>>19410287
he'll ignore you long enough to come up with a explanation or just demand math to explain whats visible to the naked eye.
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>>19410717
so you believe in dragons and giant lizards walked with man, but believe dinosaurs lived millins of years ago.
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>>19410558
It's honestly pretty rare for paleontologists to build a full skeleton from the ground up. The biggest offender is brontosaurus, which was literally a dick waving contest to discover more dinosaurs.
Or are you mad that we can't jurassic park a real dinosaur for you?
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>>19410287
That doesn't even make sense. The north pole during northern hemisphere winter, is pointing at the sun. Look at the dumb picture, and you will see the light reaches across the "top" of the globe.
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>>19410942
>late december
>pointing towards the sun
Wat?
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>>19410287
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>>19410931
I'm mad that people believe (((ARTIST INTERPRETATIONS))) are misleading people as factual replicas when they the bones -- not only are plaster (which is fine, who cares) but are TOTAL FRAUDS AND MADE-UP!

If they wanted to say "these are the limited bones we have, this is what we hypothesize the dino to look like" that would be one thing.

Dinos are fake. I believe in komodo dragons, maybe there were woolly mammoths, other larger creatures.

When they fake the skulls, they fake everything.

https://youtu.be/5KXzgeq1BuA
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>>19410946
sorry meant during northern summer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILyO1wSBhMw

There is a japanese weather satellite that takes pictures of earth every 10 minutes.
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>>19410947

I like this pic, it shows why theres so many problems with the solar eclipse and this gif.

See the hotspot below the sun? Why is it so small if the sun is SO BIG and lights up HALF THE EARTH's (((SPHERE)))???
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>>19401958
dispute every point OP made

proTIP: you cant
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>>19410953
http://paleobiology.si.edu/FossiLab/faq.html
The bones are real. Not all of the bones on display, but the bones used for research are real. And just because they won't let a fucking crackpot like Eric Dubay jack off with the bones doesn't mean there's some grand conspiracy.
Bonus fact: you don't have to believe komodo dragons exist. They fucking exist
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>>19410974
You trying to tell me thats not CGI???

https://youtu.be/HpBEduGMapw?t=908
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>>19410978
>Bonus fact: you don't have to believe komodo dragons exist. They fucking exist
>"I believe in komodo dragons, maybe there were woolly mammoths, other larger creatures."

Learn to read you fucking moron.

OHHH GOTCHA, so some bones are real, we can't seen them because they are too delicate, but they FOR SURE exist, like that single tooth that helped recreate a WHOLE FUCKING DINOSAUR without ANY OTHER BONES?

If you want to copy a right arm without having the left, but you FOUND a right arm, I understand that. I dont understand RECREATING A WHOLE MODEL FROM ONE FUCKING TOOTH! Thats fraudulent.
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>>19410989
Of course it isn't cgi. You can watch it in real time, and it has accurate weather.

https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/

Not to mention you can watch the ISS webcam live as well. On top of that there is no alternative theory to a globe shaped earth, that makes any kind of sense. On top of that why would various countries care to make a global conspiracy that would take trillions of dollars to maintain without having a single leak. Why would anyone care if it was really flat if that was true? Why is every other celestial body spherical, and can be observed with commercially available telescopes?
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>>19411008
Because this is just one dino tooth and nothing else
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg

this video is all you need to debunk the flat earth model. this is a visualization that exactly replicates the current flat earth model. what we see in the visualization looks nothing like what we see in real life. this alone is enough to btfo flat earthers.
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>>19410989
buy a 4.5 inch Newtonian telescope get detailed images of the moon, and easily determine that the planets are all spherical, all from the comfort of your own window or yard.
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>>19411008
Komodo dragons are alive and well, I dot know what the fuck you're smoking.
If you really want to hold a fossil you can buy one online, and if you don't believe that's real, you can go to Utah or south Dakota or a hundred other places and dig up your own fossil.
Just because there are recreations of fossils does not mean fossils don't exist.
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>>19410287
according to that video, and flat earth speculation, you would always have a midnight sun for the whole planet. It never dips behind a horizon.
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If flat earth is true why can't you see across the globe with a telescope when you stand on a mountain or in a plane?
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>>19411054
Because jesus
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>>19411044
>Believing
I've seen them at the st louis zoo numbnuts, I believe and KNOW they are real.

Just because you can purchase a (((fossil))) doesn't prove shit.
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I'm sure someone has touched upon this in the thread, but I don't think I'll scroll through the whole thing. I remember hearing that one reason why the the skylines of cities can also be seen from a lake is because the since bodies of water or mostly devoid of terrain anomalies the atmosphere above it will act like how fiber optics and the curvature in the atmosphere will bring the light from the skyline to your field of view. On different days when the weather is cloudy then the effect isn't as well seen. Also, a number of other factors could help exasperate or exacerbate the effect
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>>19411402
>nothing existed before I was born
>nothing will exist after I die

For fuck's sake even children have the concept of object permanence, were you dropped on your head a lot?
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>>19411442
Even crows have a concept of object permanence. Flat earthers' low-watt brains are working at a lower cognitive level than a bird's. I would be amazed if one could even stand and breathe at the same time. Has anyone actually seen a flattie ever do that?
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I've been lurking these threads for quite some time and holy fuck, I've been to space to help maintain satellites for the US military

Earth is fucking round, shut the fuck up
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Keep up the good work OP.
These flat earthers can't even dispute the evidences you've shown.
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>>19410864
bro, i roughly believe the universe is 155.5 trillion years old and mankind used to have a life-spawn of 100,000 years that has been decaying to 100 years.

but yes, i believe mankind existed millions of years ago along with 2.5 mile tall giants, you're on a paranormal board, get the fuck out.
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>>19411039
words fail to describe how stupid and gullible you are.

>buy a 4.5 inch Newtonian telescope get detailed images of the moon, and easily determine that the planets are all spherical, all from the comfort of your own window or yard.

>I think a basketball court is round because a basketball is round.

>Of course it isn't cgi. You can watch it in real time, and it has accurate weather.

I wish i could be this gullible. I have a bridge to sell you.
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What if flat earthers are muslim when you thought they where internet loonies?
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>>19406853
Lost
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>>19408291
this anti-science / trump-like claim selection is insane

being a piece of shit means shutting the fuck up and letting your betters go about their business without your understanding; I wish 4chan culture was still alive
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>>19402731
>stupid people that may appear to share the same ideologies I might have (((will look stupid)))
When will brainlets learn? kys
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>>19411402
>Missouri
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>>19411663
>words fail to describe how stupid and gullible you are.
>I wish i could be this gullible. I have a bridge to sell you.

t. member of the flat earth movement
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>>19398444
Humanity has never gotten past the Firmament.
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>>19409146

kys faggot.
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>>19412424
HuMaNiTy HaS nEvEr GoTtEn PaSt ThE fIrMaMeNt
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>>19411663
Says the faggot that believes that ten of thousands of scientists, sailors, astronomers, government employees from a multiple governments, GPS maintenance workers, meteorologists, and thousands of cgi artists who work 24/7 all conspire to make people think that the earth is a globe just like every other celestial body, and that heliocentrism is real....to cover up WHAT? that magic is real instead? LOL A glass fucking dome?

The guy who says this is real calls other people gullible
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>>19412567
>to cover up WHAT?

It's always to diminish muh God and give Satan more mana power
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>>19411669
Muslims aren't that stupid.
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>>19412622
Takes a lot of work to diminish the myth of a super powerful celestial wizard who conveniently doesnt show himself or interact with the world in any way.. Seriously though, I didn't realize flatearthers were really religious apologists. Which makes it even more hilarious when they call other people gullible but believe in magic and and glass domes over the earth.
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>>19401955
But you can see Octans from all the three spots at the same time just as people in the north can see Polaris at the same time.
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>>19412567
>>19412567
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>>19412137
>your betters

this is what balltards believe
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>>19411013
>Of course it isn't cgi.


oh wow.
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>>19413054
This image could be used by proponents as well as opponents of flat earth.
Poe's law at it's finest.
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>>19410953

ball earthers were taught what to believe at a young age, and have been rewarded for that belief.

the cognitive dissonance is so strong and pivotal to their worldview, they'd fight tooth and nail to defend it, there actually several scenes in the matrix describing this phenomena.

not everyone can handle stepping out of "scientific" dogmas and theoretical philosophy to even imagine a flat earth, especially the athiests.

honestly they'll never go to space or become the space faring type 1 civilization terraforming the stars they imagine themselves to be. so no need to get bent out of shape when they adhominem and strawman their way through these threads.

as for fossils, they probably had dinosaur toys as kids like me.

the fact is we all were taught the globe, but only a few of us bothered to question it.

evolution and the globe allows moral relativity by attemmpting to remove god form science and replace it with gravity which they can;t prove exists but are adamant they can explain it, even though none of their definitions are consistent and t most regurgutated from a royal society controlled textbook.
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>>19413103
>REDDIT SPACING SAND RELIGION POSTER
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>>19413150
>criticizes format of writing rather than content.

nice
greentext isn't the standard here, an odlfag would know that.
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>>19413103
Whether the earth is round or not doesn't suddenly overrule morality. This is probably the worst argument for a flat earth.
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>>19413103
"Ball earthers were rewarded for paying attention in school."

Rewarded with what? Not automatically being retarded like Flat Earthers.
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>>19413103

did you find that one on pintrest?
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>>19413188
There was no content it was just "people who disagree with me are dumb and not open minded like me"
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>>19413206
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>>19413103
holy fuck. this pseudo college girl rhetoric cracks us up. keep it coming brotha. the Earth is fucking round. please accept it. the only reason I visit these threads is for the laughs. it makes me cheery
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>>19413195
>Whether the earth is round or not doesn't suddenly overrule morality.

dumbass, I said it "allows moral relativity", which means the individual can decide their own morals by adopting a secular god free paradigm based in evolution and big bang which survival of the fittest is peached, rather than absolute religous morals and standards, not saying these strict standards are the best. it's the difference between "no gays at all" vs "gays aren't hurting me personally"

>>19413201
>"Ball earthers were rewarded for paying attention in school."
>criticizing your own misquote

learn to read.

>automatically being retarded like Flat Earthers
>ad hominem

I said you were taught what to believe,not to "pay attention in school".

>you were rewarded with candy, toys, gold stars, good grades, and being allowed to pass on to the next level of indoctrination which made your parents happy and give you allowance.

FOR 12 YEARS, so you were trained like a dog with operant conditioning.

>>19413206
irrelevant question, on one hand balltards will say the internet is the greatest invention of the century, on the other they'll say you shouldn't believe what's on the internet when the information doesn't fit their paradigm.
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>>19413365
>pseudo college girl rhetoric
strawman/misogyny

>the Earth is fucking round. please accept it

no it isn't. no I won't accept it.

>inb4 more strawman/adhominem
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>>19413374
do you know what a paradigm even is? or a matrix? or that the Earth is fucking round? keep it coming man! my physics professor friend is so gutted with laughs he's actually contacting me periodically to for updates.
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>>19413374
>moral relativity

the position that moral or ethical propositions do not reflect objective and/or universal moral truths, but instead make claims relative to social, cultural, historical or personal circumstances
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>>19413405
what's your educational background? your mental medical history? what meds are you taking or avoiding? were you dropped on your head as a baby? do you still live with your parents? do they know you think the Earth is flat? do you have a driver's license? are you over 21? what kind of job do you have? cant wait for the answers.
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>>19413435
>inb4 more strawman/adhominem
>more strawman/adhominems
Way to prove him right ball boy
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>>19413409
What's really funny is you were trained like a dog, and can't recognize it also you'll go so far as to defend your puppy training and mock the wolves as stupid for thinking for themselves.
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>>19413439
holy shit you fucks can't even present ad hominem right or even understand it. Earth is round flattards. oh this is so great.
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>>19413469
Phrasing it as a question doesn't stop it being an attack on one's character. I don't know if you think you had found a loophole there or something.
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>>19413514
this is awesome. please, more flattard theories!
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>>19413435
>none of these questions in anyway prove water sticks to a ball and are generally irrelevant on an anonymous imageboard
>all are designed as a veiled attack on my character
>literally the only way balltards can argue is by accessing social position as equivalent to intelligence

It's really heliocentrists usage of baseless unscientific questions like these that allows us to know not only NASA lies, but the Earth is Flat.

The authorities who claim the Earth is a ball argued in this exact same way for centuries, and it's become most apparent on the internet.
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>>19413606
Knew no one would answer my questions. so I'm guessing negative answers to all. please more!
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>>19413566
there are no theories, we know the earth is flat.

to what extent are the boundaries of the known world , we admit we don;t know for certain, therefore hypothesis have been presented, which can only be tested by going to Antarctica, which is restricted to the general public.

The fact that Admiral Richard E Byrd stated there was land and resources on Antarctica.
also he took a large fleet there, suggest that after Antarctica was closed off even to private oil companies suggest there is something to hide.

>The inconsistencies on the size of Antarctica on maps suggest also that Antarctica is much larger than a circular island at the bottom of a ball,
>Captain Cooks voyage circumnavigating antarctica taking 4 years suggests it's much larger than the we've been led to believe.


the fact is we don't believe NASA. And know they're hiding Antarctica.

soo you can ridicule us all you wan't ut the information is out there fore anyone who cares to look for it.
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>>19413606
Do you know what a heliocentrist even is? This is so great!
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>>19413621
>I'm guessing negative answers to all.
>implying there was either a subjectively right or wrong answer to those questions

so this was a thinly veiled adhominem. whoch is why those question weren't answered.

thanks for bumping the thread.
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>>19413636

>muh byrd

how many years has it been since that
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>>19413636
So your main argument is that map projections are inconsistent?
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FUCK OFF EVERYONE AND GO RELEARN SCHOOL AGE MATH
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>>19413656

CHICAGO
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>>19413636
It's hypotheses ma man. You are the greatest. Please keep it coming. Earth is round mi amigo. But I love to hear the insanity. A lot of us do. I wonder what life is like for u when I put your feet on the floor in the morning! I bet it ain't coffee! More like lithium if your parents can afford it.
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>>19413606
So what exactly is your position?
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>>19413658
nice ms paint skillz brah, but photoshop would let you match the color temperature of both halves the image and get rid of that black line in the horizon
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>>19413658

OH NOOOOOO
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>>19413643
a person who historically believe the sun is at the center of the "solar system" when even that is incorrect, as modern mainstream physics designated a invisible Great Attractor for the Sun an Galaxies to revolve around to make sense of their inherently flawed theories.

>This is so great!

It is great to watch how you fail to even defend your own false worldview and only ask probing vocabulary question abandoning any attempt to prove your spinning ball.

So is this your game to ask just vocabulary questions , adhominem, and ignore the actual points being made?

what are you getting from this?

If it's just comedic to you, it's kinda sad, as I'd think you'd have better things to do.

If you're genuinely curious you don't have to be such a mocking douche about it. Just ask and we'll answer.
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>>19413658
Do you even PARALLAX?
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>>19413669

thats all you have

claiming its photoshop?

shit, I need to open a tourist business for flat earthers across lake michigan
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>>19413677
Okay so you're a flat earther right? Have you ever heard of the term, "Psy-Op?"
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>>19413689
you know more about it, friend
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>>19413672
what Jimmy Neutron episode is this from?
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>>19413677
First of all, it's ad hominem with a space. Second of all, the Earth is round. It's been a statement of fact and science for hundreds of years. End of story. Thirdly, you are an idiotic cunt, and everyone who's sane on this thread knows it. I'm sorry for you. Please get a solid degree and get out of your p's basement. No more bullshit intelectualism that only exists in your mind.
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>>19413677
Our solar system orbits around the galactic center.
You are chosing to ignore evidence based on your presuppositions of reality. Even though there has been a mountain. Of evidence in this thread debunking the flat earth, you continue to ignore it so you can feel special.
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>>19413723
>>19413709
>tfw no comfy shill job
I wish I could insult people for money and do it from home desu
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>>19413731
Alright, so what do you want answers for? Which argument isn't up to snuff?
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>>19413648
>how many years has it been since that

about 15 years longer than NASA says they "landed on the moon"

except we know antarctica is still restricted and exists, yet they haven't been to the moon since and lost the original telemetry data.

>>19413648
I first thought the Earth was a spinning ball all through college, then hollow ball after doing research on Falkland Islands, then I learned it was flat in that after trying to understand Hollow Earth physics.

It's the inconsistent map projection by SATTELITES are what led me to question the model to begin with.

The evidence from that point has just stacked up in favor of flat, because NASA's or related agencies data is not to be trusted for a regular globe earth. simple as that

>>19413667
Earth is Flat. NASA lies for profit. really simple

>>19413672
thats a cool photo, too bad it discredits all the points ball earther make claiming the curve can't be seen from the ground. And also the only photo showing a curve from the ground. Where was this taken so I can verify?
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>>19413740
>Nasa training course
>TRAINING
Flattards can't even read, and it turns out training is done on earth and not mars, who would have thought?
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>>19413740
>NASA lies for profit.
Shit man they're not very good at it then
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>>19413740
not really for profit, they are THE scientific authority that tells everyone what's what
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>>19413772
This is the major thing.
If space agencies wanted to lie they could do a much better job of it. Although this really gets me thinking. Flat earthers tend to be so obnoxious and aggressive despite many of them claiming to be christians, that they make people despise them even if they may agree with some of their arguments, in effect poisoning the well against their own position. There could be so many layers of deception and the (((Flat earthers))) are just a part of it. Notice how every hollow earth or what's at antarctica discussion gets derailed by flatearthers?
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>>19413740
Map projections take a globe and flatten it, the inconsistencies come from changing a 3d object into a 2d.

The image in >>19413672 is from lake pontchartrain in Louisiana. This is basically the ship over the horizon argument for curvature with a fixed reference point.
You can go to Antarctica, access is restricted to a point to keep people from dying there, but nobody is restricting access outside of logistical and experience constraints. It's the same reason you aren't going to go climb everest.

And finally, the portion of the US budget that goes to NASA is less than 1%. If the government really wanted to just steal your money they would. NASA constantly has to beg for a budget, you'd think the globalists would want to maintain their conspiracy
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>>19413689
yea, mkultra is a psyop that was mocked for years until it was true, also tinfoil hats actually work, which is why it's made of aluminum now...

>>19413709
>adhominem x100
>I thought this thread was great! and you were enjoying the laughs, but you're all assblasted now...what gives

>>19413723
>You are choosing to ignore evidence based on your presuppositions of reality

haha, wow that's funny.

>Our solar system orbits around the galactic center.
Yea im sure you can prove there is a galactic center and have photo proof of the Solar system outside of NASA photos taken by their fake satellites using superpowered wifi over ,millions of miles from pluto.

>It's been a statement of fact and science for hundreds of years. End of story.

So it's not theory? interesting...So how do you prove water sticks to a spinning ball as a matter of "fact"? What experiment was used and repeatedly observed showing this phenomena?
And you say "end of story", silly me thinking science changes when confronted with new evidence. Such as NASA LYING

Just because you treat science as your personal theology, doesn't mean I have to believe what the authorities of Scientism espouse without sufficient evidence.


>>19413656
>GO RELEARN SCHOOL AGE MATH

you mean believe what I was taught as a child without questioning it?
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>>19413749
So why photoshop a mars rover and change the scenery? Sounds like a convenient excuse.
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>>19413804
>despite many of them claiming to be christians
it is said that one of the reasons for the massive cover up is to hide God, but not that every single thing claimed by the church is real. Church leaders acknowledge the planet narrative and sometimes entertain the idea of extraterrestrial life, they are in on it too.
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>>19413815
Alright. Just show me an accurate map of the flat earth then. I'll concede gravity, the galactic center, and tin foil vs aluminum.
Just an accurate map of the world
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>>19413834
So there isn't an accurate map?
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>>19413824
>Church leaders acknowledge the planet narrative

Not all of them, And Catholicism isn't actually Christianity, It's Babylonian/Roman paganism.

Heliocentricity is built on ancient traditions of pagan sun worship, even Newton was an occultist who knew nothing of Electromagnetism. These beliefs are central tenets to (((Babylonian Talmud and Kabbalah))) a product of Jewish mysticism while they were in captivity..

>>19413824
Also most people go to secular compulsory schools everyday more than churches on sunday.

So obviously they'll take what they were taught in school to church.

Even though before compulsory education was pushed by Rockefellar and Carnegie groups, there was a backlash because their children were now government controlled.

Many Western Christians advocated independence from Royal Society of London standards of education. Millions of the children of these people were killed in world wars and bombed to shit over the last century and in reconstruction they kinda just accepted peace as is without realizing what was happening.

This later happened to the Chinese and Russian "intellectual" classes in purges.
Though many chinese still firmly believe the Earth is flat because traditional medicine is so strongly linked.

Pretty much every country in the world is operated by a central bank that controls the education systems.

The hows and whys arent that hard to figure out.
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>>19413834
>>19413888
This is something I've requested forever. The azimuthal projection is based off the globe model and no flat earther can create a map that even gets most of their theories to work, never mind just make one where the southern hemisphere isn't distorted as fuck.
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>>19413896
We probably jump the shark trying to refute everything. At the end of the day they can't provide a map or model and that should end the debate
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>>19413888
Obviously not, if were just now realizing the degree to which the heliocentric ball earth model has been pushed and flat earth science stifled from public awareness, and were not allowed to chart and explore antarctica, but the azimuthal projection works wonders.

so it's a step by step process and we admit that, we don't claim to know everything only that what we've been given as truth from childhood has a degree of perceivable falsehood.

there are questions that must answered first, and it's hard enough discussing why we reason it's flat without threads getting shilled, banned, and or adhomminem bumped to death.

It's as if were not allowed to discuss these.

And the Flat Earth Society is a controlled opposition similar to David Icke and Alex Jones.
Which is why people think Flat Earthers believe in an edge you can fall off of.
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>>19413939
Okay, so why should I believe the earth is flat if the most accurate model is reflected on the globe?
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>>19413905
Maps work on flat surface, but are ball projections...

interesting, because there were maps before the idea of the ball.

All maps are alighned with the prime meridian which is Eurocentric, further we're also not allowed to go to the true magnetic North pole as a reference point. Which is claimed to be at the bottom of the sea.

There are several maps representing the flat Earth however we don't know if Antarctica is the end of the world or only the boundary of our Island.

there are alot of questions but even still no map is a 100% accurate representation
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>>19413939
So looking forward to the FIRMAMENT NASA can stick its ATHEIST GLOBES up its @R$se RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH
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>>19413896
f we can't explore Antarctica fully we can't determine whered the boundaries are.

It's basically like asking for a map of North and South America in 500bc

If noone knows enough about it to make an accurate map, the map wont be made.

Personally I believe our "world" is just our archipelago, and the real world is beyond it.

We are Lilliput, while Blefescu is beyond the Ice Wall.
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>>19413944
Im not telling you what to believe, I'm telling you what I personally know. you can choose to reason that the world is much larger than what governments tell you, or you can believe its a ball. But it doesn't change the fact that water doesn't stick to a ball

If I don't know something, I wont make up something for you to believe...unlike NASA

besides globes were mass produced by Gerardus Mercator in either the 16th or 6th century.

this is another reason why flat earthers are researching New Chronology to make sense of strange astronomical records, and historically frequent book burnings.
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>>19413988
proving his point
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>>19413972
It is true that maps were around before the full globe, but they have the same inaccuracies that modern maps do
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>>19413989
We don't really need to explore the interior fully, we just need to make a definite circumnavigation with a fixed origin point.
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>>19414073
>they have the same inaccuracies that modern maps do

correct. Which is suspicious. Those innacuracies shouldn't be there if Sattelites were taking photos of mars and pluto as perfect spheres, yet ours is a oblate spheroid...

Im not claiming maps are perfect, or even I know how big the world is. I'm saying that sattelite photos from space shouldn't be so inconsistent in projecting the earth accurately, yet it is.

Im also saying Nasa and government agencies are lying about it, and we should be allowed to investigate these inconsistencies ouselves privately.

however we are not legally allowed to go freely to antarctica or true magnetic north which would settlle many issues regarding reference points, yet were given globes with a 66.6 degree tilt as children and told to believe in a spinning open system ball only government agencies can confirm.

further we are barely allowed to even openly discuss these inconsistencies without a flame war, hence the reason these threads are limited to /x/ on a board full of endless slide threads about summoning demons to have sex with.

Rather than on /sci/ or /pol/ where it belongs.

Also the shills who bump these threads with adhominem/strawman
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>>19414183
2d maps are imperfect because they are flattening a 3d image. The 3d model is mostly accurate in the grand scheme, but 2d maps proposed by flat earthers blatantly disregard that fact
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>>19414103
I agree, but what if there is no south pole and we just keep traveling and eventually reach more endless streches of fertile land...then what..

do we turn back and tell everyone? Or keep going.

And the scariest part is would people who are so entrenched in thinking the world is a ball even believe it if you tell them what you saw beyond the Icewall with your own eyes

those are the questions posed by Admiral Byrd's expedition.
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>>19414202
>the grand scheme

interesting choice of words
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>>19414217
Well with modern technology you could track the entire voyage, stream the entire thing, and keep dozens of independent records.
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Buy a telescope, get real high up, look at Australia.... Win. Or don't because you believe in any bullshit that makes you feel special.
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>>19414217
dude you sound like you write for The Big Bang Theory. Badly, because that's a great show. holy fuck. please STOP
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>>19414220
So where is your accurate map?
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https://discord.gg/PVrZamw
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>>19413812
they always end up getting the money, right? why not put on a good show?
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>>19414685
Compared to the joint fighter? 1 trillion dollars for a fighter that can't do anything a fighter should do?
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>>19414217
imagine being a whole society on the outside being aware of a whole other society believing they are on a ball... so they either don't want to help us, can't help us, or our are just using us. I mean if poke enough holes in round Earth, just maybe you could have an argument for like a situation where some gov found the truth, then another and they all decided on a pact to never talk about this new 'zone'. It may be deemed dangerous, etc.
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>>19414232
you could but for some reason this hasn't ever happened...and i've already stated why/

>>19414303

Why are you still in the thread if this asshurts you so much...

literally a thousand different topics , why are you camping in this one?
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>>19410203
die you fucking peasant pseud
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>>19413103
>pseud gets debunked so hard he internalizes the argument, vilifies his previous beliefs so strongly he dissociates from their origin and inserts it into every single contention in any argument he has

bro its time to die
you can't keep up, and you will never be able to
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>>19413410
yeah it basically means not being so autistic you can't weight multiple adjacent claims, or you have some ability to experience a reality different from your own
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>>19413606
"water sticks to a ball"
that's why you'll always be a mongloid, you can't even coherently grasp your own argument

are you trying to say the surface tension of water prevents it from adhering to non-"flat" objects?

Also, what is a flat object, and what is the force that holds mounds of earth together? What is the force that holds the heaven in place? What is a star or sun?
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>>19414802
>>19414828

>globe earthers either try to win the debate by browbeating ad hominems.strawman/appeals to authority, or demand to have you killed

>flat earthers just make their claims and extrapolate on the information they've collected
admitting they don't know everything.

I wonder which is more scientific...
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>>19413812
>i watched some jewtube videos where i idealized one man's opinion into a rhetoric, and thereafter internalized it verbatim (by repetition) into a world view

Yeah fuck everything that disagrees with your theory bro, I mean everyone is just a lizardmansheep eating himself, just like lazarus kekekex9000
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>>19414838

it has nothing to do with autism.
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>>19414865
being unable to debunk the statutes that govern the motions of the heavens, but having the foolish confidence to believe the mountain of evidence, and all the basis of modern physics, are wrong because of a hunch is scientific now?

die mongoloid, your kind is not wanted in the new world
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>>19414869
What the fuck are you trying to say?
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>>19414881
yes, being unable to experience self-awareness is quite important to autism

being unable to experience two claims simultaneously is what I would argue autism is; you can't emote well enough to engage in parallel thought (bittersweet feelings after success, passionate rage, spiteful love). Basically tons of things that only lazer focus can't do because a parallel network is being locked into monotasking
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>>19414848
> you'll always be a mongloid
>adhominem

>you can't even coherently grasp your own argument
>answers questions with questions

> what is a flat object
an object without a curved surface.

how can you say I don't know what im talking about if you don't even know what a flat surface is...

>still no scientific proof of water sticking to a spinning ball as suggested by NASA pictures of the globe. Despite it being claimed as "fact"
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>>19414882
>die mongoloid, your kind is not wanted in the new world


ballearthers gentlemen
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>>19414893
that you're a pseud desperately clutching to his "intelligence" as his only personality trait, but only willing to delve into passive learning (youtube) and so fall prey to the most specious claims because of the pathos you experience by listening to false idols ("truthers/red pillers/prophets/secret knowledge holders")

you continually seek the thrill of becoming special, chosen, and known, but can't do it in any productive way, so you fall prey to charlatan after charlatan who has achieved a soapbox (you are essentially feeding into an attention economy created by people like you, for people like you, and run on validation loops)

>>19414916
>provides no evidence for his claims; claims he isn't a mongoloid for pretending he his the chosen one
>no curved surface
show me a mathematical model of a flat surface without any curves, and explain the edge of the world without the use of a curve
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>>19414924
this is all you rational wiki fags do all day, hide
you won't provide for society, and you waste time by creating noise in the vulnerable - you should die or be reformed
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>>19414916
dodge my comment about water, and use terms that refer to properties of water to explain the strawman-that-is-your-water-is-flat argument
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>>19414947
Did you cite the right post? Who the fuck is talking about YouTube? You aren't making any sense
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>>19414896
>being unable to experience two claims simultaneously

were all taught the ball earth in primary school. not everyone learns to unlearn the garbage theyre taught through rout learning compulsory education and memorizing information to pass tests.

>being unable to experience self-awareness

How do you know you're self aware, and what is the self for that matter?


sounds like an ad hominem to me, simply ascribing a mental condition onto a person whose view you refuse to empathize with or understand.

>being unable to experience two claims simultaneously is what I would argue autism is

who cares what you think autism is, you're just using it as an ad hominem anyway.

the rest of that shit is philosophy and you're talking to an anonymous person so diagnosing me with a medical condition is unfounded.
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>>19414947
>projecting this hard.

>more adhominem.

>>19414953
please tell me more about the anonymous person
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>>19414998
This is 4chan. We're all autistic here
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>>19414998
ummm....I've been to space fucker. Earth is fucking round. Been in orbit. Fuck yourself, and shut the fuck up.
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>>19415039
ballearthers and their lies.

I know before I ask, but pics or it didn't happen.
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>>19415036
thats a bold generalization.
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>>19414998
>unlearning instead of being conflicted with new evidence
that's why you're a mongoloid
>not building a new model
that's why you're a mongoloid
>dodges my personal attack comment by referring to solipsism thereby defeating his purpose in being here
why care about anything, bruh?
>addresses the pathos, dodges any responsibility to address specify his claims
hahaha, this is why you're a mongoloid
>>19415010
>rationalewiki the post
>anonymous people the dodge
bruh, you're anonymous but we can see you, we can see how blank you are by your posts

>>19415036
yes, i agree with this, but the point I'm trying to make is we can see ourselves being non-selfaware, and retroactively address the causes - which are strangely often emotive in my case

avoid false idols, avoid miraculous highs

>>19415039
>trying to ghost/falseflag
why bother my posting style is already rambling
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>>19415105
>>19415096
>>19415039
>shock and awe tactics worked
all this trying to have fun is bad for your brain
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Why are some of the main flat-eathers some of the weirdest ungodly people ever?
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>>19415125
you're right. I haven't been in orbit. I'm being paid to try to debunk you're ridiculous bullshit not. I've been up there. Earth is fucking round you nimrod.
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>>19415125
>pretendingtoberetard.png

>>19415271
>flat-eathers
>ungodly

anyone who sees 3000 peopled die on live tv at 9 years old would have alot of questions about what kind of world they live in.


my questions started when both my parent who are military had to go to afghanistan and Iraq to "fight terrorists" and protect our "freedom", yet losing a house in the states to forclosure in 2008 while deployed.

the answer was jewish interests at every turn.
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>>19415324
give me the odds you (had been up there | were a human)

ofc I will never believe your anonymous shitposting

>>19415326
>1
I genuinely don't know what this comment is trying to invoke besides reflexive layered irony.
>flatearthers ungodly
u fell for weak bait, as it is clear a ton of you are religious and seek meaning in rules

>etc
good luck pupper; capital only protects capital
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>>19415324
>nimrod
>mighty hunter
>first king of Babylon and Ur
>the builder of the tower of babel
>first man to call himself a god after the great flood
>his descendants rule the world today
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>>19415333
>layered irony.

this is as accurate a description as one can get
when describing the modern world.
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>>19415335
People didn't get the irony of bugs bunny calling elmer fudd nimrod, so everyone just thought he was calling fudd an idiot and the etymology stuck
>being this dense
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>>19415376
right, I literally just corrected urban dictionary on that.

I know what Bugs meant by sarcastically calling Elmer fudd Nimrod,

>>19415324
this faggot didn't and used it as a synonym for stupid, when he called me just a mighty hunter before the lord without understanding the context of Loony Tunes.

Also it shows how far we've drifted from the bible in American culture where that joke flies over peoples head.
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>>19415389
Now you're just being pedantic
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>>19415460
yea I am, not sorry though, devil is in the details.
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