/omg/ - Occultism & Magick General

Who are Bel and Ebal, and what dangers do they pose inviting them in?

File: 1499961776820.jpg (377KB, 1325x1098px) Image search: [Google]

377KB, 1325x1098px

I'm gonna try to circulate an email tonight before/between/after homework.

https://youtu.be/fWBjalZ45us

File: Prairie_Falcon_in_flight.jpg (370KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

370KB, 1024x683px

>>19293855
copy me on this one, will ya?

*bamp*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvzu6Ap3yNw

File: this is a noif.jpg (31KB, 526x349px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 526x349px

My package from Amazon arrived today ^~^

The Devil's Dozen seems pretty legit. It's like a step-by-step guide for solitary initiation as a British-traditional Witch. Purple prose abounds, but eh, in a book about witchcraft it's kind of to be expected.

>>19294316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLQzaLr1enE

>>19294398
- t. enlightened loving being

>>19294398
My Wand of Venus is for the Horned One's eyes only.

>>19294381
>this is a noif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbWAFu3H3rw

File: 20032067_1533238496697693_3501095981794653979_n.jpg (177KB, 616x960px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 616x960px

>>19293926
I-I'm not sure I know which email among my accounts is yours.

If you're the Senator's partner, pardon my not CCing you in until now. I can send you archives of previous emails if you don't wanna copy/paste from The Honorable Senator from Virginia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN6pT3zL44

>learn a magic spell
>learn to spell magic
gee tough pick

File: 78d5b9358da60da10f6df8b98e149c58--autism-and-adhd-adults-with-autism[1].jpg (57KB, 640x640px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 640x640px

>>19295079
>>19295128
it's ok friend we understand your real issues and accept you for who you are

>>19294999
That pic tho.

Yeah that's me. He forwarded me several things, but if you've got it conveniently forwardable, go ahead and lay it on me.

Woops lost my trip.

>>19295137
You're so gentle with the less fortunate, it's what I love about you

How do I get into eastern religions if I have an interest in occultism/esotericism?
I see things like Shaivism and Shakta but they all seem way too advanced for me to understand.

File: Pasta-with-Butter-Tomato-Sauce-and-Toasted-Bread-Crumbs-forkful.jpg (49KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 640x480px

>>19294050

Magick
Magic
Majic
Magus
Mage

>>19295178
>I see things like Shaivism and Shakta but they all seem way too advanced for me to understand.
I literally have this thought every day.
How much basic reading have you done?
If none, Kali Kaula and Kiss of the Yogini.
If you have read those start with Kaulajnananirnaya and Kularnava Tantra.

>>19295179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpA5o9zAK8c

File: images[2].jpg (23KB, 300x168px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 300x168px

>>19295205
>mfw hevajra tantra

>>19295223
>mfw hevajra tantra


>that lengthy explanation of psychosis and mania possibilities at the start

90% of people don't believe in magic
yet you are offended when they refer to illusions as magic

File: hevajra_in_yab_yum_th99.jpg (115KB, 543x750px) Image search: [Google]

115KB, 543x750px

>>19295223
>14 outstretched arms
>14 Dragon Stars
>16 total arms
>16 Mothers and Fathers of Wytchblood

Yeah I about had a heart attack when I figured out that the Vajrayana use of Kala was to empower their equivalent to the Word of the Neophyte.

Puts a new spin on the word "Samarasa", eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRBPi4xaJ4

File: 500x500[1].jpg (74KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 500x500px

>>19295254
I could do a dissertation on how this phrase relates to the godforms mentioned in Pyramidos or other initiation rituals like it:
"I have eight faces, four legs, and sixteen arms, and trample the four Maras under foot. Fearful am I to fear itself, with my necklace made of a string of heads, and dancing furiously on a solar disk; Black am I and terrible with a crossed Vajra on my head; My body smeared with ashes, and my mouth sending forth the sound HUM. But my inner nature is tranquil, and holding Nairatmya in loving embrace, I am possessed of tranquil bliss. My front face is black, the one to the right is like white jasmine, the one to the left is red and fearful and the one to the rear is distorted. The remaining faces are like those of bees, and there are twenty-four eyes and so on"

>>19295298
The more I converse with aspirants like you the more it pisses me off that there are cross lineage bans on talking about this shit in public.

I mean if the A.'.A.'. is gonna fail to initiate the LEAST they cold do is make the Knowledge Lectures open to the public for cannibalism. But no, "muh sacred holy mysteries".

Fuck you, buddy.
Mystery is the enemy of Truth.
That's what my fucking Oath says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONlH9ieqgc

File: 1500055654287.jpg (1MB, 3300x1600px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3300x1600px

>>19295345
>>19295298
Also notice that in the case of EVAM the descent of the vowel is literal, as it's being literally dripped down the central Nadi channel.

I've got some material that explores this further but I might actually be breaking other different Oaths by dead-dropping the link without contextualizing it.

https://youtu.be/YYKSYRKY2Hc

>>19295390
Feel free to contextualize it

File: IMG_9221.jpg (99KB, 627x502px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 627x502px

>>19295345
>that's what my fucking Oath says
THis is why I like you

>>19295390
Pic related

>>19295399
That'll probably be a page of typing I won't feel like doing until the morning.

>>19295407
>THis is why I like you
:3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31x0Ld0tmag

File: 14830806116780.jpg (23KB, 605x518px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 605x518px

>oh no they use the same word for staged tricks that we have for our occult beliefs that those tricks even mimic
>this debauchery somehow taints the dictionary definition of our beliefs and practices
>quick, we must select an alternative moniker even though the definition of magic still applies
>wordz n shiet
>yeah boi magickkkkkkkk
>dis how wizards do

tfw people laugh at you even more now

>>19295456
>the definition of magic still applies

pls do provide the definition of magic

File: Just-google-it.jpg (27KB, 800x294px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 800x294px

>>19295460
ha ha

good one

File: 1500062744937.jpg (240KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

240KB, 1920x1080px

>>19295456
>>19295460
https://youtu.be/2k0SmqbBIpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO36yJkHmPE

>>19295478
So a recently married couple share a bed and in the morning the husband tries to explain his needs to his wife without wanting to be rude.

So he comes up with a riddle, it went "what rises in the morning?"
"The sun?" She said, oblivious.
"Well that's technically correct but I didn't mean that", the man said.
"The cock and the hens?" The woman replied, because that's the first sound they normally wake up to.
The man was unsure she would ever understand the hint on her own, so impatiently he played into her naivity.
"Yes. And it looks like there a cock right here in our bed", after which he proceeded to show her his pennis and also dicke and balls.
This became such a memorable play that the couple kept referring to his peener as a cock and this is how cock became synonymous for penis.

What didn't happen though was people being huge autists and forming a lynch mob to justify the couple for their linguistic atrocity. It angered no-one, not even the deranged lonesome farmer who fucked hens, that cock became slang for penis. In fact it was him who then bragged that he shagged chicks, and the townsfolk assumed he was delusional and referred to young women, not realizing he referred to hens. This is how chick became synonymous for young woman.
"Hey old crazy man did you lay with any ladies," they pestered.
"The chicks are eager for the cock," the old crazy man would brag.

But I digress. Nobody felt the urge to find new words when other things lend their name off things for the original thing.

Nobody in their right mind feels it necessary to say "magick" when they mean magic just because some people think you mean magic tricks when you say magic. The fault is theirs, and it's nothing to be mad for. It can be helped by saying "no I mean actual magic" and not be a faggot and start forcing an ancient spelling to be devisive.

I am tempted to steal the word magick and give it another meaning to force you faggots to invent yet another spelling.

>>19295486
>pastaposting

shiggy

File: 52463dceb94e9a97352b4f99f05995d3_share-salt-meme_512-401.jpg (33KB, 512x401px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 512x401px

>>19295486
Despite multiple times directing you to the etymology of the word, I have yet to see you present a single coherent ethnohistorical linguistic argument to back up your position.

https://youtu.be/r2bL7DU21Wg

>>19295486
Damnit Greyface not again

>>19295460
>he doesn't know what magic is
i never thought wizard was the magick spelling for retard

File: image.jpg (4KB, 300x57px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 300x57px

Are the projection techniques outlined in Astral Dynamics appropriate for application in occult practices?
Or is there an alternative method/form of the practice that is preferred?

Only asking so I don't set out on the wrong foot.

File: big-smoke.jpg (34KB, 640x640px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 640x640px

>>19295506
all these people who want to practice magic but don't even know what that word means

>>19295516
>>19295535
.1/10

File: 51a2f37fa249efb9c82ec0696ab70330-imagepng.png (194KB, 320x320px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 320x320px

>>19295511
https://youtu.be/7jNt3W7NtgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH9ufx-Wq3w

What's the easiest and safest ritual I can do as a beginner?

>>19295541
LBRP or Star Ruby

And Hail Satan

>>19295519
>Are the projection techniques outlined in Astral Dynamics appropriate for application in occult practices?
Sure.

>preferred
Everyone's wired differently; much like various medicinal therapies you're just gonna have to shotgun techniques until something clicks.

As long as you can go exterior it doesn't really matter how you do it.

>>19295562
thanks for reminding me of my favorite drug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI4NAKs6bnM

>>19295554
>>19295506
>>19295562

>Despite multiple times directing you to the etymology of the word, I have yet to see you present a single coherent ethnohistorical linguistic argument to back up your position.

Thanks for bumping the thread while you hunt for citations.

>>19295562
Call her Ana

>>19295551
Good to know, thanks m9.

>>19295546
What is the difference between the two? Sorry if that is an ignorant question but I'm not quite getting it

>>19295566
i never thought magic was all about worshiping an incorrectly spelled word you do not understand
truly enigmatic

>>19295574
LBRP - banishment using Hebraic names
SR - banishment using ungrammatical Greek

File: IMG_8973.jpg (154KB, 703x960px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 703x960px

>>19295565
Lol

>>19295595
Thanks a ton. Peace be upon you.

>>19295597
>>19295565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf096lcpruc

>>19295601
inshallah

If you want to hit the astral plane do a line of k, add a K, its magic.

>>19295617
>drop the k, that's magic

G A F E M A S

>>19295628
A

>>19295642
A B

File: 231 gates.png (32KB, 640x499px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 640x499px

>>19295642
>>19295647
blah blah whatever
>>19295609
my partner has some astrological information you might find helpful re: your latest email

File: wizzerd.jpg (77KB, 533x800px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 533x800px

What the hell is with this guy and his "WAH BWAH NO K" thing? Like... I think it's pretty stupid myself, but I can drop a damn subject. At least I hope I can.

In any case, the Online Etymology Dictionary has this to say:
>late 14c., "art of influencing events and producing marvels using hidden natural forces," from Old French magique "magic, magical," from Late Latin magice "sorcery, magic," from Greek magike (presumably with tekhne "art"), fem. of magikos "magical," from magos "one of the members of the learned and priestly class," from Old Persian magush, which is possibly from PIE root *magh- "to be able, have power."

So I'm curious why the C and K are together at all, and why we don't just give it a Q. I mean, if we're going to go with etymology.

But we shouldn't. Because modern English is "magic," we all know what we're talking about when we say "magic," and if we're going to talk about stage magic we can talk about stage magic in its own terminology. Such as stage magic. Or illusion. Or sleight of hand, mentalism, conjuration...

But honestly I would rather talk about books. I'm finally getting around to the Key of Solomon, is there a preferable version? I have the Mathers version but I was reading that he cut shit out. Is that going to be a problem?

Am I talking too much?

Anyone here fuck with binaural beats? I decided to check them out since that cia stargate thread, and its actually pretty sweet. Normally it would take me like 40 minutes to get into 4th jhana but with this is its a couple minutes. I guess you could consider it training wheels but w/e, given the impatience a lot of beginners on /x/ have Im suprised this isnt discussed more. Its like a speedrunning tool. Im betting it also greatly reduces fatigue for longer sessions, which would be pretty helpful for all kinds of applications.

>>19295762
>4th jhana
OK there, bud

>>19295791
Problemo?

Is meme magic legit, like with Kek and such? This is an actual question.

File: the boil.jpg (19KB, 210x240px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 210x240px

What are some cool and fun spells that even a beginner can do?

Any good seperation rituals you guys know off to break off people?

File: 491779719.jpg (51KB, 667x1000px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 667x1000px

>>19296031
>Program a psi ball and send it off to do its thing
>Dabble in runes
>Pray to your zodiac angel for guidance or assistance
>Connect with nature
..etc..

>>19296353
Lucky Mojo sells "break up spell kits". Never tried the spell kit, nor am I affiliated with the site, but the Break Up Spell Kit comes with an established hoodoo method and all the required ingredients to perform it. If that doesn't work, then I don't know what would. Maybe evoking and binding Paimon?

>>19295205
Not that anon, but if I had to pick one or the other to read first, between Kali Kaula and Kiss/Yogini, which would you recommend starting with?

>>19296998
If you're college educated, Kiss.
If you're not, Kali Kaula.

>>19297020
I mean, I'm not as college-educated as you are, but I been dere, dun dat. Thanks.

https://youtu.be/FSvhV9OAils

>>19295595
I have heard this assertion before, but am not incredibly versed in Greek. Which aspects are grammatically incorrect?

>>19297067
http://lionserpent.com/xxvnotes.html
http://lionserpent.com/xxvanalysis.html

>>19296353
This isn't a ritual, but my strategy for this has been to visualize the places on your body where you can viscerally feel their connection and just, remove them. If you see your connections as like a thread growing into you and the other person, like philotic twining if you happened to read the full Enders Game saga, you can visualize golden shears to cut these cords, a la the three fates, that's popular. Or you can just sort of abruptly extract them from your side of the equation. I visualized it like glowing, softening, falling away, sort of like what happens when a plant is overwatered and breaks off at the stalk. whatever suits your style. it was suggested to me by my heddy therapist that i reconnect the severed cords to "source" as like a way to make the process more gentle on the other party or on your karma, so if you care about either of those things you can do it that way. I skipped that part save for one occasion (I was mad lol). I did this visualization passively whenever it occurred to me or whenever I felt the connection embodied, and I did it a once more intentionally at the altar. I probably did this 30 times over a month or two. This definitely gave me a sense of control over the connection, if nothing else. I recommend it.

A lot of focus is given to the goetic spirits but are the other spirits in the lesser key better summons? The neutral spirits in the theurgia seem a lot less spooky and supposedly can do anything instead of having specialties. Also, is the summoning pastebin the OP applicable to them?

what is the lodge of black ivory

>>19297294
I am interested in the answer to this, as well.
>>19297301
A Cultus Sabbati online workgroup.

File: ArabianNights.jpg (86KB, 650x345px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 650x345px

I'm very interested in the sorcery, mysticism, and magick of Persia. Can anyone knowledgeable in the subject recommend some material to read on it?

>>19297404
sufism, zoroastrianism, chaldean oracles

File: ArabianNights (2).jpg (320KB, 724x1024px) Image search: [Google]

320KB, 724x1024px

>>19297493
I checked some of those out. Interesting. Anything else? Can you recommend any books? Preferably pre Islamic.

I saw one earlier by BALG called Black Magick Of Ahriman but that mainly deals with the demons and such. Whereas I'm interested in all aspects of Persian sorcery and magick. Not just the dark side.

File: Cyclonopedia.png (212KB, 695x569px) Image search: [Google]

212KB, 695x569px

>>19297997
You should read Cyclonopedia.

>>19298018
I don't know anything about it but apparently it's "theory fiction" dealing with politics?

>>19298060
>theory fiction
>fiction
Zozzle.

It's the academic-philosophical version of Illuminatus with a heaping helping of racism, but it's recounting of the Z principle as embodied by Azhdeha/Zahak is more or less in line with my experiences in DBoE.

File: BMOA.jpg (62KB, 363x519px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 363x519px

>>19298070
>>theory fiction
>>fiction
>Zozzle.

That's just the description given when I searched for it.

>It's the academic-philosophical version of Illuminatus with a heaping helping of racism, but it's recounting of the Z principle as embodied by Azhdeha/Zahak is more or less in line with my experiences in DBoE.

I see. I will look into it. Anything else you'd recommend on Persia?

>>19298082
Anything by BALG is trash.

>Persia
My Zoroastrian folder.

So I've been doing sigils and meditation and keeping a journal. Some sigils work, some don't (usually the smaller shit works, the bigger stuff hasn't happened yet). Meditation, eh, I don't know how I'm doing with that exactly.

At what point do I know to move onto bigger and better things? What's the next step?

File: AW003-Arabian-Nights.jpg (98KB, 620x310px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 620x310px

>>19298088
>Anything by BALG is trash.

Yes, I'm aware of your grudge against them. It's just the book I mentioned earlier (>>19297997) dealing with demons and such. While I'm fine with learning about that too, I also want knowledge pertaining to all of Persian magick, mysticism and sorcery. I feel spiritually drawn to this and it is a subject that is still mysterious to me, so I want to study and learn.

>>Persia
>My Zoroastrian folder.

Thank you, I will check it out and Cyclonopedia.

File: +akinator discovers waifu.png (334KB, 519x554px) Image search: [Google]

334KB, 519x554px

I was asked in the last thread what specific tradition I am most interested in.

Shaivism seems interesting to me, but there might be something better I don't know about. I only really care about the main three gods and in addition to devotion towards a god, I'd also like to study the secrets of my existence.

File: Mahaprabhu.jpg (203KB, 736x685px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 736x685px

>>19298160
Try Gaudiya Vaishnavism. It explains the nature of God as well as that of the individual soul.

>>19298232
FUCK OFF ISKCON FAGGOT, NO ONE WANTS TO JOIN YOUR CULT

>>19298160
>but there might be something better I don't know about
you wont know til you find out. if you like the idea of shaivism, start reading some books and see if it vibes with you. dont try to find the "best" tradition before you start reading or else youll turn the search into a dry intellectual pursuit instead of something you will grasp intuitively.

File: original magic.jpg (392KB, 468x702px) Image search: [Google]

392KB, 468x702px

>>19297404

>>19298369
Oh man! He has a PHD. Gotta display that prominently. Otherwise we wouldn't know to bow down to his authority.

>>19298385

I suggest you not waste your time with it then. You're obviously far too advanced to need it anyway.

>>19298385
kek, but to be fair, if i had a phd, I'd display it anywhere and everywhere.

Could anyone explain to me the difference from the eternal bliss you get from freedom of this world/karma and the heaven you experience from worshiping devas?
also, do devas "die" like humans when the universe restarts?

Are there any books which give an mostly unbiased overview of hinduism free from modern hindu revisionism?

>>19296601
Where could I find a hardcopy of this book?
Googles not showing anything.

File: stack-of-books[1].jpg (559KB, 1024x678px) Image search: [Google]

559KB, 1024x678px

I want to cobble together a tiny library of the most practical, result-driven, utilitarian books - possibly buying or otherwise acquiring what I can, printing what I cannot and binding it. They don't and possibly even shouldn't promise great things, but they should cover well everything from basics to actual effects and be effective in bringings results and developing the person practicing content they promote. So far I have:
>Bardon's IIH
Since it's classic and basically whole course from beginning to end of what a person can reasonably expect to achieve in a lifetime (supposedly).
>The One Year Manual by Regardie
Many of the basics fit and complete Bardon's, possibly due to some similarities in the general attitude and tradition (though it doesn't mean one should substitute one for the other)
>Liber Null & Psychonaut (both in one) by Carroll
Kinda unsure about this one, but it tackles magic from quite a bit different perspective than previous two and is considered quite a classic for aspirant wanting to get anywhere in some circles.

Could /omg/ recommend anything (with links should they be hard to get otherwise) more that would fill any gaps these works leave or even better, make a superior alternative when it comes to effective training (especially since I'd like to keep the size of the whole set to just a few positions)? Help would be greatly appreciated.

>>19299025
>>Bardon's IIH
Garbage.

I used to have a list of 264 books I was preparing. Nobody gives a shit.

>>19299007
No clue.

>>19298385
Flowers is p. solid duder.

>>19298916
>>19298984
I'm not entirely sure what you guys mean.

https://youtu.be/nPVYvkovIvc

>>19299162
>Garbage.
On what grounds you claim so? And if so, what would you recommend in its place for maximum of effect?

>I used to have a list of 264 books I was preparing. Nobody gives a shit.
I am not sure how that is related. Do you mean no one gave a shit about your list or didn't care about contributing?

>>19299178
>On what grounds you claim so?
I'm getting sick of having this discussion ever four days.

Bardon is neither Initiatory nor Hermetic. The text he presents has zero grounding in the Corpus Hermeticum, Chaldean Oracles, the Arabic Grimoires (secretum secretorum, etc.), or any other contemporaneous materials. Moreover IIH offers zero in terms of a funtioning initiatory ritual, and seems to contain zero coherent reference to Freemasonry, early Gnostic initiations, the functional mystery cults, SRIA, OoGaRC, HOoGD, or the traditions using Dee's keyword for three hundred years.

>Do you mean no one gave a shit about your list or didn't care about contributing?
Everyone wants to learn magick but nobody wants to commit to a BA's worth of study.

>>19299162
>I used to have a list of 264 books I was preparing. Nobody gives a shit.
Do it, bitch, I want a reading guide.

Reminder that this fuckwit whackaloon is the origin for like 75% of modern schizoid delusion:

>Necronomicon is real, and it's "Necromonicon"
>Rothschilds
>Council of 300
>Council of 13
>Trilateral
>CFR
>I killed a dude and senators got me off
>Ignore the underage girls I'm teaching witchcraft to out of a store called "the caldron"
>Every time I go to a church someone tries to kill me in a parking lot
>Star Wars is satanic
>Witches call occultism "the force"
>Muh saturday morning cartoons
>Crosby Still and Nash are satanic witches who encode their music backwards
>OTO ( the "order ov tov") and the A.'.A.'. ("great white brotherhood) are high illuminati
>etc

It never ends with this guy.
Fuck Johnny Todd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T7KxykDX6Q

>>19299178
>And if so, what would you recommend in its place for maximum of effect?
You listed one of them- Regardies One Year Manual. Another would be The Complete Golden Dawn System AKA The Golden Dawn also by Regardie.

>>19299340
Another fun allegation made by John Todd: "Phillip Rothschild ordered one of his mistresses to write an 1100-page book that would describe to all witches how they would take control of the World through the Illuminati: It's called Atlas Shrugged."

>>19299366
Love the Rothschild/aye rand 'ship tho hahah

File: 1477758776955.jpg (50KB, 613x771px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 613x771px

>>19299420
>Love the Rothschild/aye rand 'ship tho hahah
>>19295538
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH9ufx-Wq3w

Also, RAW references Stirner here, which I forgot (towar end of clip w/r/t anarchism):
https://youtu.be/-j8Lpk0tTgM

>>19294381
Have fun. Gary is wonderful.

How does one get more interwoven with a spirit of sorts? I'm ready to take the next step in my journey and don't know which route to take. Any suggestions?

>>19297078
Thank you for this. Helped clear up some misconceptions.

>>19298369
I did see that a few days ago and I'm excited for it's release later this year.

>>19298385
>Now, let's all sit down and listen to a lecture from Steve...

>Now, let's listen to a lecture from Dr. Steve H. Jennings, chief cardiologist.

>>19295486
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as magick, is in fact, Occultism/Magick, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Occultism & Magick. Magick is not an operative system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning esoteric philosophy made workable by the Chaldaean Oracles, Liber 777 and solomonic grimoires comprising a full magickal system as defined by the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.
Many wizards run a modified version of occultism every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of the occult which is widely used today is often called “magick”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the occult philosophy, developed by Heinrich Agrippa. There really is a magick, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Magick is the activity: the methods of acting out a series of ritual to affect a change in your surrounding reality in conformity with the magickal will. Magickal activity is an essential part of a philosophy, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete system of occultism. Magick is normally used in combination with philosophy of occultism: the whole system is basically occultism with magick added, or Occultism & Magick. All the so-called “magickal” paradigms are really traditions of Occultism & Magick.

>>19299767
As a linux user, i approve.

File: Vwdionk.jpg (57KB, 576x382px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 576x382px

>>19299767
I lol'd.

Hard.

Is it possible to do pathworking solo? I can only find info on it being a led / guided exercise.
If it requires another guiding party, would a recording suffice (and does such a thing exist)?

File: IMG_9226.png (2MB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 750x1334px

>>19299242
>Everyone wants to learn magick but nobody wants to commit to a BA's worth of study.

Lol pic related

>>19300018
I record things for myself all the time and play them back for guided visualization. Do it man

File: IMG_1121.jpg (198KB, 1200x1200px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 1200x1200px

>>19299344
I just bought this book. (Complete golden dawn). Haven't cracked it open yet. Total noob. What should I do with it? If magic is too difficult I will convert
It into a bong...

File: Z.png (794KB, 531x956px) Image search: [Google]

794KB, 531x956px

Post the BA requirements for Occultism & Magick, Ape pls

>>19300228
I'm not even a Christian and even I know that you're going to hell.

>>19300237
Hell is a state of mind.

File: 6ujpkg9i.jpg (12KB, 240x226px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 240x226px

just rename the thread to baby's first magicka knowledge

>>19300228
Is that solo cup full of Crush?

>>19300228
>the cap on that bottle
bottom shelf spirits for a bottom shelf magician

File: Bdz.png (447KB, 524x393px) Image search: [Google]

447KB, 524x393px

>>19300237
Not my pics but have another

>>19300249
>>19300339
Smoke meth and hail satan i guess

>>19299162
>No clue.

ok and where should I start with when it comes to runes?

File: 1skqdp.jpg (34KB, 500x437px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 500x437px

>>19299767
yeah i'll just stick to the word that the rest of the world uses because there is no merit to that special k
>drop the k that's magic

>>19299344
>Another would be The Complete Golden Dawn System AKA The Golden Dawn also by Regardie.
Alright, I'll take a look at it. Thanks.

>>19300522
I can see one benefit to k. What the word magic is used nowadays usually refers to the sleight-of-hand, legerdemain, prestidigitation. Some sort of differentiation to avoid misunderstandings does seem of at least some value to me.

File: 599.png (38KB, 200x223px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 200x223px

>>19301240
>nowadays usually refers to

Wikipedia: Magic or sorcery is the use of rituals, symbols, actions, gestures, and language with the aim of utilizing supernatural forces.

Google: noun: magic
1.
the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
adjective: magic
1.
having or apparently having supernatural powers.
magic still means magic
A k has never meant so little

File: magic.jpg (62KB, 677x348px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 677x348px

>>19301254
Since you're using wikipedia, pic related.
Several meanings are common enough, with prestidigitation on top of that often mimicking popular notions of the real thing, that my point stands - differentiation is useful.

>>19301259
>I am tempted to steal the word magick and give it another meaning to force you faggots to invent yet another spelling.
magick is now the officious term for larping

>>19301265
I doubt you'll ever have enough persuasion to change the meaning of magick even on the internet, yet alone in general. Even doing so just here will at best work only temporarily and your campaign forgotten soon after.

But it'll be amusing to see. Do it.

>>19301270
the whole move of adding the k by definition was a larp
what do you call yourlselves anyway, magickcians? you're just larpers desu

>>19295486
The k in magick is a signature of crowleyniggers and their speshul brand of black magic
Just like niggers they indulge in their basest drives, do everything wrong and arent up to the tasks they mimic

File: 15977595_120599858447390_6032570884158446514_n.jpg (29KB, 502x442px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 502x442px

>>19301283
shadilay
special k
dubs and trips and quads and quints
larping is intensely gay
magic spells or spelling magic
the retarded mages can suck my dick
'Ill shitpost till my hard drive quits
I'll never cuck to larping interests while planning spells and magic tricks

File: Wizard 069.jpg (124KB, 583x753px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 583x753px

>>19301259
>differentiation is useful
Yeah but if they're pronounced the same when speaking out loud, it's pointless.

Can we go back to books though?

>>19299025
A noble endeavor. Too bad I don't know nearly enough to give any recommendations, but I do love the idea of assembling books of purely practical magic (over, say, the pompous theatrics of ceremonial magic).

I've been meaning to look into cunning folk. I feel like they'd be the key to "low magic," i.e. magic that has any practical use whatsoever.

>>19299242
If I see IIH being praised and infinitely upvoted as a good beginner or hermetic book on reddit occult, and I probably will the moment I go there, I'm going to literally copy paste your post and see what they say. Do you mind if I do this?

>do some magic to make shit happen because I'm lonely and anxious and I want things to go my way out of fear
>later, start to work on my issues and become healthier and generally am a happier person
>now I don't know what to do magic for because I'm fine with whatever life has in store for me
>still have the urge to do magic for its own sake but don't know what to do
Now what?

>>19299767
didn't expect to see this meme here, good thing I wasn't eating

>>19301616
>Do you mind if I do this?
Not in the slightest.

>>19301619
now that you sorted yourself out, you can actually experience the real potential and entertainment magick and its otherworldly aspects has to offer

I would even start from the very beginning again just to see how much the results of your practices changed, especially talking about the general trance work. It should be much more comfortable there, it should be easier to reach certain states and maintain them and then the shit you experience should also get interesting.

Oh no.
Ohnoohnoohno.

https://phys.org/news/2015-10-zeno-effect-verifiedatoms-wont.html

>>19301694
Wow I can't name how many /sci/ fags I've met who claim shit like "the observer effect is misunderstood" and "things don't change just because *you* watch it"

>>19301697
This one slipped under my radar.
Guess I can't be a Bohmian anymore.

I still think this effect is coupled with color confinement.

new threade
>>19301726

File: IMG_9234.png (26KB, 350x436px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 350x436px

>>19301697

>>19301728
>156 posts
>nu thread
you coming down from that LSD anime character evocation ceremony mate or what?

>>19301697
they are not completely wrong though
I mean the best shit I've seen so far is Dan Radin's research but the supposed influence of an actual conscious human being on the behavior of those subatomic particles was so fucking tiny that there's no fucking reason to believe we can have do anything spectacular until we figure out more about this stuff
and by we I mean the smartest most dedicated and open minded people

>>19301740
no
we must evolve
the time is now

>>19293801
Do you know any rituals I can do that will stop this thread feom being made?

>>19301739
Straight up though math is the single most paranormal in the entire cosmos and it contains the only universal truths we can absolutely be sure of. It makes me wonder why so many people hate math.

>>19301808
bleach drinking ceremony will make you never experience those threads ever again
alternatively you can use a filter ;)

>>19301748
"Observation" is loosely defined as the moment of information exchange, not necessarily contingent on the presence of human consciousness. One fun thing about the studying the observer effect is that physicists don't actually agree on what constitutes a "measurement." Measurement collapses the wave, not necessarily consciousness. I understand this fairly topically but David chalmers has some interesting things to say about panpsychism as it relates to the observer effect, like he thinks it's an act of consciousness to collapse the wave form but that the definition of consciousness can be expanded to cover exchanges of information (hence, "panpsychism"). I was just thinking about...if consciousness is required to collapse the wave then like imagine a state before the collapse ever occurred, the birth of consciousness rises with the first exchange of information which births the existence of non-wave particles and now I'm thinking about the Sefer yetzirah and kabbalistic Cosmogony.

>>19301848
thanks for an interesting response

>>19301848
>Measurement collapses the wave
LIGHT collapses the wave.

>When the imaging laser was off, or turned on only dimly, the atoms tunneled freely. But as the imaging beam was made brighter and measurements made more frequently, the tunneling reduced dramatically.

>The words against the Sons of Night
>Tahuti speaketh in the Light

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_confinement
http://www.esotericarchives.com/dee/monad.htm#theorem17

john dee's material on enochian - good/bad? other suggestions?

>>19301908
>>19301848
I swear to christ this will all come back to Luminiferous Aethyr

>Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University, had this to say about ether in contemporary theoretical physics:

>It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.

>>19301916
>good
^^^^^

File: images.jpg (6KB, 191x263px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 191x263px

>>19301924

>>19301967
https://youtu.be/kEdRde6jew0

/omg/ - Occultism & Magick; Theoretical & Quantum Physics General
and it's great

Does free will exist? How does it's existence or lack thereof relate to magick?

>>19302090
Contrary to what pseuds like Sam Harris will tell you, determinism has not disproven all forms of "free" will. The so called 'weak' free will has no serious arguments against it.

A child cannot move a mountain. But he can grow up and hire a team to excavate and relocate it. My food choice may be limited by local and personal supply, but if my cupboard is stocked and I'm not having nutritional cravings, I can eat what I please.

For materialist purposes we can assume will is deterministic but more often than not we can manipulate the factors of determination. Sophists will argue toward an infinite regression but if you wanna do the math for The Field History of the Known Hyperverse, be my guest buddy.

>>19301991
FWIW I don't like talking about physics ITT because of >>19301739, among other factors, unless there's someone in the room who knows some high physics; my math skills break down around upper trig and statistical calculus. I can visualize simple (i.e. dead space) field manifolds but fuck if I can toy with the functions or conceptualize sophisticated movement around atypical manifolds.

We used to have a vajrayana mathematician ITT I would often spar with about the fine points of nondualism. He'd gripe at me for not being a physicist but begrudgingly admit I keep my speculative thoughts fairly grounded in sense as opposed to "muh quantum consciousness" shit you see passed off by /x/tards or the "muh semester of QM" fags on /sci/.

how to summen lucifer?

>>19302188
If you wanna cast spells, you gotta learn to spell.
>>>/b/

File: IMG_8966.jpg (52KB, 748x468px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 748x468px

>>19302090
Everyone obviously has vastly differing opinions on this but I happened to read Samael Aun Weor's opinion on the subject like an hour after you asked this question so that's what I'm going to give you ha, I do not fully endorse this, to be clear.
He believes that there are three classifications of actions- some dated by the "law of recurrence," and some mechanical accidnents (I sort of think it's dumb to distinguish between those two things because i don't think it makes sense to believe in a concept of fate that *doesnt* relate to mechanics but jury is still out on how all this works from my perspective) and then he believes in the capacity for free will, but that the power that facilitates that free will is constabtly bound up in ego mind, like fractured and compartmentalized across your sense of self- what he calls the "many I's." He, like many people, suggests deconstructing the ego self to liberate what would otherwise be your will from habituated tendencies, and to loose your attachment to certain outcomes that you may or may not be playing out across lifetimes

>>19302321
>some dated by the
Should say fated. Also excuse the abundance of spelling errors it's reallll sunny where I am

>>19302201
>If you wanna cast spells, you gotta learn to spell.
Made me chuckle. I thank you for all you do Ape.

Thoughts / recommendations on the following:

The_Enlightenment - D. Alan. Holmes.
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/PDF/the_enlightenment.pdf

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth

Emerald Tablets of Hermes

The Book of Lies

Are any of the following not worth my time? Any advice / recommendations are appreciated.

So, I think my partner and I may have accidentally created a magical effect.

We were both driving home from a nice dinner, deep in discussion about magical theory, practice and phenomena, talking about how we both had begun to experiment with minor willworking, energy manipulation and all that. Well anyways, we come to an offramp exit, only part of the highway for miles that's lighted, its new so its very brightly lit. At the exact second those lights came into view they all shut off for maybe 5 seconds, then flipped back on.

I really want to explain away what happened as a fluke, but the thing is... I felt it happen. I felt a cold shiver run up my spine, I felt cold, not physically but almost like I was empty of energy. I felt part of myself somehow reach out in the direction of those lights. She felt it happen to, at the exact same time. My question is, if we were both intently discussing magical effect, could that have been enough for the two of us to cause something to happen? I've seen her turn out single lights, and I've seen it happen to me, but this... this was a good multiple dozen lights.

>>19302467
>The Emerald Tablets of Thoth
>Emerald Tablets of Hermes
The emerald tablet is literally 14 sentences. Here's Newton's translation from the Arabic.

Tis true without error, certain & most true.
That which is below is like that which is above & that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing
And as all things have been & arose from one by the [meditation] of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.
The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.
The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
Separate thou the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross sweetly with great industry.
It ascends from the earth to the heaven & again it descends to the earth & receives the force of things superior & inferior.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world
& thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
Its force is above all force. For it vanquishes every subtle thing & penetrates every solid thing.
So was the world created.
From this are & do come admirable adaptations whereof the means (or process) is here in this. Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world
That which I have said of the operation of the Sun is accomplished & ended.

File: Hindu+Goddess+Kali+Maa+Photo.jpg (147KB, 601x750px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 601x750px

Was about to start a thread but guess I'll post this here. Just sharing something that happened today.

So I'm trying to do lucid dream, still without full success but something happened today.

I didn't sleep at night then I became asleep in small intervales of minutes. At this point I was able to "enter" the dream at will and wake up. As if "open eyes, this world, close eyes, other world (same action of the dream continuing)". I did this at least 5 times. In the last ones I was able to "see" images from the dream in the "awaken world".

Then I noticed that my mind didn't make a distintion of the dream and reality. As if I was still aware and convinced of the dream IRL, like there was no distinction between the dream and the awoken state, as an unbroken continuum.

I remembered that some tibetan practices use lucid dreaming to experience the voidness of reality, as if the dream is equally void as IRL. I tried to "experience" it and while I didn't experience any ego death I really felt that there was no distinction in essence by the dream and reality. As if both where the same and while wasn't able to feel the void I was aware it was there.

I saw Kali Maa when I had my eyes open this time (she and Vajrayogini are current apparitions in my dreams, sometimes they talk clearly to me, though I'm not a formal practicant nor I have diksa, I only do jaap).

What now? Should I continue trying? Does this have any meaning?

I keep a diary of my dreams and stuff as well.

>>19302602
The Emeralt Tablets of Thoth are real and legit. Though the original tablets were lost, their contents were passed down through a secret oral tradition until they were written down again. Saying that only the 14 limes of the Tablet of Hermes are real is ignorant. I expected more from you, Ape of Thoth, seeing as you're literally named after the writer of the Tablets of Thoth.

>>19302743
>emerald tablets of thoth are real and legit
Post proofs.

>original tablets were lost
Post proofs.

>oral tradition until they were written down again
Post proofs.

>Saying that only the 14 limes of the Tablet of Hermes are real is ignorant
Earliest known historical example of the Tablet is Kitab Ustuqus al-Uss al-Thani. Post proofs otherwise.

>>19302602
What about:

The_Enlightenment - D. Alan. Holmes.
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/PDF/the_enlightenment.pdf

The Book of Lies

http://nypost.com/2017/07/14/library-seeks-witches-to-translate-17th-century-spellbook/

>>19302761
No you.

is there a torrent to download the entire mega file? I started the download from the site directly but it wants me to pay for more data.

>>19302835
That's not how the burden of proof woooooorks

File: Y6hxdi9.jpg (182KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 1920x1080px

im just going to keep reading and understanding

change is a part of life


i may not get it but ill keep understanding and learning

>>19303257
dumb animeposter

File: chaos.png (54KB, 167x195px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 167x195px

>>19303269
sorry

>>19302913
Just dl a little at a time. Be selective. It would take years to read the entire library anyway.

>>19303384
It might even take longer than a lifetime to read everything in the library now.

File: satanic sigils.jpg (341KB, 1600x1950px) Image search: [Google]

341KB, 1600x1950px

>>19295178
>I see things like Shaivism and Shakta but they all seem way too advanced for me to understand.

Start with this - Georg Feuerstein. Tantra: Path of Ecstasy.
It's a very good introduction into Hindu Tantra, and it explains rather well the basic concepts.

Then check N.N. Bhattacarya "History of the Tantric Religion."
It's a historic overview of the whole tantric tradition of India. Brief, but informative. It explains how tantric rites and beliefs maybe be based in pre-Aryan fertility cults, gives a short overview of the philosophy and metaphysics of the main Tantric schools, and shows how they possibly influenced other religions.

I would also recommend David Gordon White's "The Alchemical Body: Siddha Traditions in Medieval India." The second chapter explains how yogic, and as a consequence, tantric concepts of spiritual progress are related to Ayurveda, seasonal, and lunar changes. Also, it has a very short but at the same time precise explanation of the five elements and how it is related to the more sophisticates 36 tattva system.
Chapters 7 and 8 are also good, because they show the Hindu tendency of seeing mystical parallels almost everywhere.
This book helped me clear a lot questions related to some correspondences in tantras. I hope it helps you too.

However, usually the Shaivite and Shakta practice take form of japa (mantra recitation), visualization and identification with Godforms, and bhutasuddhi (purification of the body and the elements, which involves visualization of its
dissolution and then reconstruction as a divine form). Yantras (graphic representations of the Godforms) are also used as an aid in meditation.

Is Grant Morrison insane?

Out of curiosity, would a spell, one that I most likely wouldn't do, that gives somebody a little nosebleed whenever they talk ill of me/behind my back be possible?

>>19303581

You should keep in mind that a lot of Shaiva and Shakta practitioners of Hindu origin haven't read Abhinavagupta, or even other tantras. They get the necessary mantras and visualizations and practices from their guru during initiation rites.
If you want to read about how the majority of sadhus in India live, read Sondra L. Hausner "Wandering with Sadhus: Ascetics in the Hindu Himalayas."

>sophisticates 36 tattva system.
Sorry. Mistake. Checked the book. It's within the Samkhya philosophy. Forgot to correct it while reading the post.

All mentioned books should be on libgen.

>>19303594
>during initiation rites
It may be unorthodox but you CAN self initiate here.

>>19303604
How?

>>19303610
Um, the same way as all the other Tantrik initiations.

>>19303581
>Yantras
>>19303594
>mantras and visualizations and practices from their guru during initiation

The candidate will be led blindfolded to a large Yantra drawn on the ground. The candidate is given a lotus. Once dropped, where the lotus falls indicates which mantras you are imbued with.

All Shakta mantras learned from books or constructed on Tantrik principles are valid.

>>19303643
Where does abhinava talk about self-inition again? I can't remember.

>>19303672
>Where does abhinava talk about self-inition again?

Tantraloka 16:195 is a self initiation via an ordeal of consciousness.
Tantraloka 4:62:
>The purpose of self initiation is to mobilize the essense of the mantra which is being practiced. Mobilization of the essence of the mantra results in activation of self knowledge. It has been observed that if one is unable to get a teacher capable of activating the mantra, by praying to Candika Devi (Raktadevi) regularly, one becomes an Acarya within a month, a Sadhaka in a fortnight. A Putraka in a week, and within four days less by quarter of a day, Samayi. In this process of initiation, Raktadevi is supposed to perform the ceremony Herself as the provision of the Shastras. This method is to be adopted in case of unavailibility of a Guru.

Abhinavagupta comments that you can brute force your way in by constructing your own mantras in accordance with lineal doctrines. Moreover, there's enough interspersed between Tantraloka and Paratrishikavivirana to do the exoteric form of worship and get a sense of mantra installation.

Abhinavagupta seems to state pretty clearly in Ch. 16 that a properly initiated guru can fuck with the system as much as he likes as long as it's in-line with the teachings and praxes.

More interestingly, he appears to invite people to practice these rites without initiation to attempt jivanmukti, with the caveat that they recognize they aren't lineal representatives.

>>19303719
Neat, thanks.

Can someone explain to me why OTO cunts vibrate Godnames instead of chanting them as done traditionally for thousands of years by infinitely wiser men in India?

>>19303743
How do you even "vibrate" godnames? What does that even mean?

>>19303743
Ever watch a Saivite give Nyasa?
It's vibration mate.

>>19303604
We have tantras.
During the medieval age, the majority of people were illiterate, and the knowledge of Sanskrit was confined to the elite only, so the people elevated the guru to a high status because he had the knowledge, knew the mantras and the mandalas.
In Hindu context, the secret of the tantras weren't the sexual practices, but the mandalas and mantras (Chakrasamvara tantra and the way they hid the mantras with a cipher).

>>19303753
>How do you even "vibrate" godnames?
Generally speaking the exact resonance will be different for each person due to size, diet, composition, etc., but you hold the note in such a way that it produces vibration in the body from head to toe.

It's like throat singing except you don't try to split off your voice into two separate channels to produce the characteristic "whistle" sound.

>>19299242
>funtioning initiatory ritual
AKA stuff no one who wants actual success gives a flying fuck about.

If you want Siddhis, do Bardon. If you want to roleplay, read Crowley.

File: Trishulabij Mandala.jpg (330KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

330KB, 500x500px

>>19303759
>but the mandalas and mantras
Good thing we have Paratrisika, Tantraloka, and me posting directly initiatory images every single thread.

Abhinava says that simply viewing the Trisulbij Mandala with comprehension, is tantamount to the lowest tier of initiation.

>>19303774
>If you want Siddhis, do Bardon
get the fuck out of here

>>19303772
Sounds interesting, where can I find out more?

File: flat,800x800,075,f.jpg (62KB, 800x598px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 800x598px

>>19303774
>butthurt about derascination of a plastic "mystic" I posted over 22 hrs ago.
How about you try your hand at a real refutation this time, anon.

>>19294381
>the devil's dozen
hmmm. So this is what happens when women dabble into the occult.

File: 113-.jpg (696KB, 2035x2463px) Image search: [Google]

696KB, 2035x2463px

>>19303807
?
Soror Pashk Ahkti is what happens when m'ladies (tips wand) dabble in the occult.

>>19303800
I just found the thread m8. Not all of us can afford to sperg out 24/7 on an anime forum.

>>19303832
17 posts in the last 24 hrs, mate.

>>19303864
Ape = Mod

>>19303878
If I were a mod do you really think there'd be so many fuckposts on the board at any given time or catch bans when our resident report spammer jerks off on the button?

>>19303891
True. So how'd you know how much he posted?

>>19303895
Wow, you're a special kind of stupid.

I was referring to MY post volume.

Jesus PigFucking Christ.

>>19303904
That makes more sense, yeah.

File: 1431073178635.jpg (202KB, 897x445px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 897x445px

>>19303269
anime website

File: ykcVYkt.jpg (198KB, 600x811px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 600x811px

>>19304209

File: 14b359eeddfc7bb1531314b147b172cd.jpg (170KB, 999x992px) Image search: [Google]

170KB, 999x992px

>>19299494
Gemma is completely based. I can respect her for being able to embrace the darker aspects of the craft without coming off as purposely edgy.

File: original.jpg (159KB, 900x940px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 900x940px

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFF8bubMc40

https://youtu.be/oUS6aX9GS5I

I think I just found Schulke's phone number.

File: IMG_9278.jpg (87KB, 612x612px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 612x612px

>>19304680
What like, in the phonebook?

>>19304696
DN registry trying to figure out if Cultus Sabbati the band actually was Cultus Sabbati the cult.

Turns out, nope.

The band became https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSqFEf5qrgo

File: cover.jpg (198KB, 880x1360px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 880x1360px

>>19300371
>where should I start with when it comes to runes?

This is a good introduction by an initiate of the Rune Gild.

>>19304500
I used to love this album....... then i realized how pretentious they are

>>19304910
Cry harder.

>He doesn't unironically like pretentious entry level hipster trash.

Don't make me link you to NMH.

File: 1200px-Fludd_summum_bonum.jpg (481KB, 1200x1051px) Image search: [Google]

481KB, 1200x1051px

>>19305037
https://youtu.be/MI6xNf4tMcs

An edited and commented edition of the Ceremony of the Equinox of the A.'.A.'. has been uploaded into the CS Initiatory Folder from my Mysteriorum.

As usual instructions are in red and commentary in green.

Hopefully this clarifies the Twilight Language, marginal notes, and the implied but unexplained gestures.

>Of these, amongst the Hebrews, are three mothers, viz., é, å, à ; seven double, viz. ú, o, ô, ë, ã, ð, á .
Where can I find me some Agrippa with proper character encoding, senpai?

>>19303774
>If you want Siddhis, do Bardon.
most retarded and entertaining post I've seen in /omg/ in weeks

>>19304500
Here, more thread-related Goldfrapp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGdMxxpeljU

>>19305355
Are you able to suggest a better alternative or you just really love riding high horses?

File: 1490292693272.jpg (28KB, 530x502px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 530x502px

>>19305738
yes to both

>>19305750
The latter is confirmed then, the former is up in the air since there's no suggestion that would prove you can.

>>19305776
very smart conclusion

Good morning, /omg/.

https://youtu.be/uqcTVVUFnKQ

File: IMG_8150.jpg (254KB, 720x960px) Image search: [Google]

254KB, 720x960px

>>19305063
It's lit. For once I'm excited to get to work do I can DL it

>>19303774
>If you want Siddhis, do Bardon.

zozzle

File: 20139701_1095414827258203_2535735826707637591_n.jpg (125KB, 662x960px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 662x960px

>>19306286
I already noticed a small error.
The point of the dagger and scourge should be in the EAST not West. The chain-base is in the West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvOiFmjExx4

>>19306323
>23
Holy shit.
That's not official, that's a fan vid.
Moreover it's using the GD tattvas as well as the "Hand of Sabazius" for those who know who know that Sabazius is Supreme and Holy King of the USGL.

>General vapor aesthetic
>Roman state religion deification columns
>Navajo rugs
>Arrow through a golden apple
>Superimposed yogaforms resembling the hexagrams
>Peruvian mummies
>Sarcophagi superimposed on frogs

Goddamn.

>>19300046
Hehe where the flying fuck is THAT gem from?

>>19301240
Which was actually a big issue when Crowley revived the older spelling. things like spiritism, Theosophy, faked seances, illusionism, etc. were all being lumped in, and illusionists would often claim magical powers that enabled their tricks, like early-day SaiBabas.

File: Autism_Speaks_Logo.jpg (12KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 400x400px

>>19295486
>>19300522
>>19301254
>>19301265
>>19301282
>>19301283
>>19301310

>>19301421
Now you're redefining what "low magick" and "high magick" mean, too? Jesus H, I know autism makes it difficult to differentiate between literal and figurative meanings, but when somebody told you you were heir to Daniel Webster, they were certainly only kidding!

You are as bad as that (and probably the same) autist who busted in here insisting everything was just "symbolic" and there were no actual, literal ritual tools or gestures. but again, we will accept that you are autistic, as we know it is difficult for you to distinguish between the literal and the figurative. Just ask us which is intended beforehand and we can clear up these obvious misunderstandings.

>>19306368
Henry at Not For Prophet Industries

>>19306412
I know Hank.

>>19306430
We're friends on social media. I've bought some of his shit he seems stand up. Funny guy. He once complimented me on my lipstick that's about as deep as our interactions have gone.

>>19306323
Do you have this in not-a-pdf? I want to type notes into it.

>>19306446
Yeah but I'm doing a thing.

>>19306450
I'm giggling because the first time I did this in 2015 I had the altar directions rotated incorrectly by 90 degrees but when we got to the stabby bit I wound up with my head in the east by sheer happenstance ~*~bless~*~

>>19304500

Are those from sky burials? Or what exactly is that from?

>>19305308
You can just google "Three mother letters, seven double letters, 12 elemental letters in Hebrew" then find which symbols correspond to which Hebrew letters.

>>19306547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Silence

https://youtu.be/mdyuRzDAfDg

>>19305776
If you're doing ANYthing to get siddhis, you're doing it wrong to begin with. But I wouldn't expect a Bardonite to know that.

>>19299468
>
This shit is so funny...it's like "Burroughs re-writes Ayn Rand."

>>19306558
Exactly.

>>19306556
I have always found these types of burials fascinating, but...

>The doctrinal rationale for exposure is to avoid contact with earth or fire, both of which are considered sacred.
>they are built of stone

how is this rationalized, exactly?

Why should i sit down and study hundreds of occult books instead of just joining the local freemason lodge and getting the knowledge handed to me without all the bullshit to filter through

Srs question

>>19306674
Nobody said you should do one or the other. It sounds a lot like you're partaking in some form of projection. However, your conception of Masonry is in serious need of revision, for the sake of accuracy. Maybe actually read some Masonic texts and get back to us?

>>19306681
Isn't occultism about becoming a better person and helping to build better surroundings? Isn't thats what masonry is all about, too?

Im not talking about wizardry and fireballs, bro

>>19306691
"Occultism" is such a broad term as to be completely meaningless. Masons don't just hand you shit when you join, and your expectation of having to do little to no work of your own, and conception that the mysteries are even communicable, verbally or otherwise, are absurd. Would you join a football team without ever having read the rules or learned the game? Why would you go into Masonry blind?

>>19306674
>>19306681
>>19306698

*pops popcorn*

>>19306698
I never said it doesnt take any work with the masons. But im currently doing my masters and i know first hand that its way easier (fucking WAAAAY easier) to bring taught the knowledge compared to studying it all by yourself. I want to become a better person by all means, the best i can become in this life and i want to know wether delving into the occult, especially masonry, is worth it.
Anyways, whats occultism good for then? If not to become a better person.

English is not my first language so sorry for errors

>>19306710
>I want to become a better person by all means, the best i can become in this life

What does this mean, at least to you?

>>19306710
Then take the path of least resistance, by all means.
>what is occultism good for?
Occulting things?

>>19306716
To cure all my misconceptions i have in life. To see things as they are, not as i interprete them. To not get cast away by emotions and of course, to help my surroundings

>>19306720
What do you mean?

>>19306724
>To cure all my misconceptions i have in life. ...

I can't see Freemasonry helping much. Sounds like you would be better, or at least more directly, served by something like Zen Buddhism or raja yoga.

>>19306736
Then what reason is there to delve into the occult or masonry if eastern spiritualism is the way to go.
Is it just romantization of the mysterious?
Seems like im not getting an answer from you guys

>>19306759

What is the reason of any non-critical human activity?

Magic is entertaining. There's a higher risk, than with Eastern mysticism, but then many people like dangerous and challenging activities.

File: 220px-BuddhaLoutsSm[1].jpg (26KB, 220x254px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 220x254px

>Be me, dreaming
>Somehow in my dream I get my hands on a super rare Left Hand Path text
>As I am reading it a bunch of words melt and recombine to form the phrase "Chöd"

Where should I start with this as I have no actual teacher? As I understand there are two primary lineages which combined together, one being a Buddhist awareness of emptiness and the other being a Bon practice of shamanic initiation

>>19306759
Magick: To cause change in accordance with Will.
So yeah, that seems pretty significant. Also, discovering what one's True Will is is pretty important. Spiritual progress is pretty important. Escaping duality and completing the karmic cycle is pretty important. And like the pother anon said, there is plenty of risk and reward to be had along the way.

>>19306767
I see, now

Would you please ellaborate on the 'risk', though?

>>19306776
>Would you please ellaborate on the 'risk', though?

Insanity is a significant risk, in greater and lesser forms. Magic can fuck you up mentally, physically, or emotionally.

File: images.jpg (35KB, 730x1080px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 730x1080px

>>19306776
Spiritualized ego mind is the biggest risk that I see, vs. zen buddhism (although this happens everywhere). You can create all these gigantic mental structures that can serve to protect your sense of self, your identity, and plenty of people [read: me] do a shitty job at dashing that structure upon the rocks of initiation, or whatever. Identity can be a thing of beauty, and a useful tool, but it should in a perfect world be relinquished just as easily as it's called up around you. I imagine someone in a desert like drawing up the sands around him to form a gigantic beast who moves in a vast, powerful motion, then lets the sands fall and keeps walking, alone.

The ego can be like a tower of babel you build towards the godhead, so long as you allow it/yourself to be obliterated as you cross the abyss.

But for real just start with Zazen.

>>19306784
I have seen this asserted over and over...is there any supporting evidence? It seems like it's almost reached the "induced-schizophrenia" meme-status.

>>19306806
This happens across the board, not limited to western occultism. There's something called "zen sickness," in fact.

>>19306815
There is something called "kindalini sickness," too, which I actually do believe in but the only people I have ever heard claiming to have it are some form of schizo, or suffering from a minor form of ascended master syndrome (they think they got it from one session of yoga, don't even do yoga and think they got it, etc.)

>>19306806
>I have seen this asserted over and over...is there any supporting evidence?

Yes.

>>19306848
That sure was a lot of post to use to make an assertion without offering one citation.

>>19306815
>>19306848
>>19306852
To clarify, I don't doubt it, and a lot of authorities I respect on the matter have claimed to have witnessed it. I also believe some of these people had predispositions to mental illness to begin with. I'm just looking for citations of or references to verifiable cases.

>>19306918
>I also believe some of these people had predispositions to mental illness to begin with.

Yeah. They had the itch to do magic. That's irrational.

>>19306968
Yeah thanks for the massive contribution. Dunno how this thread has made it so long without insights so profound as yours.

>>19306980

Do you honestly believe magic is rational, or may be profitably rationalized? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

What's omg's opinion on crystals in magical practice? Another useful tool ,or new age-tier larping?

>>19306994
It depends on what aspect we're talking about "Magick" is a pretty broad term. I do, however, believe you made a less than useless post. Do you honestly believe that occasionally suspending disbelief=mental illness? Because, without any additional context other than that which we already have, that is literally your assertion here:
>>19306968
Also, care to elaborate on what you believed you were contributing to the discussion? I'd be really interested.

>>19307019
To clarify, I am saying (no, scratch that, YOU ARE ASSERTING) occasionally (or in this case, just once) suspending disbelief is the exact same thing as having a genetic predisposition for mental illness.

>>19306558
>If you're doing ANYthing to get siddhis, you're doing it wrong to begin wit
t. advaita retard

Have fun being poor and never getting laid

>>19307055
>you said (thing I don't like) you must follow (group I don't like)
Actually I don't believe in the existence of Atman, so suck on that. However, anyone who scoffs at other schools of thought than theirs has undoubtedly been led astray.
Anyway, it's pretty much asserted in every Yoga Manual worth its salt that one should not be doing any of this with the expressed purpose of gaining siddhis. But I wouldn't expect a Bardonite to know that.

>>19307055
>>19307079
Furthermore, if you need siddhis to afford things and get laid, you have much bigger things to worry about than the pursuit of siddhis. But we can tell how much spiritual progress you have clearly made, when we consider the very first 3 places your mind went
>you must belong to (school I don't like) because I don't like your opinion
>money
>sex

>>19307079
>I don't believe in the existence of Atman
You must be so fun to be around

>every Yoga Manual worth its salt that one should not be doing any of this with the expressed purpose of gaining siddhis
*wink, wink*

>>19306558
>But I wouldn't expect a Bardonite to know that
>>19307079
>But I wouldn't expect a Bardonite to know that

am...am I stuck in a loop? is this hell?

>>19295989
Kek is the god of synchronicities,
his law is
you create your own luck
you create your own destiny
you create your own synchronicities
you create your own co-incidences
may the dubs be with you, its the key to beating the matrix.

>>19307102
>2017
>subscribes to duality
You must be so fun to be around
>*wink, wink*
Yeah cuz we know the actual gurus were telling their students that the main point of yoga is gaining siddhis. Right? I'm sure there is a mountain of evidence to support your assertions. if only you would provide that, instead of your personal feelies.

File: The-Mad-Hatter-in-Alice-in-Wonderland.jpg (79KB, 850x641px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 850x641px

>During the period 1692–1693 Newton is known to have suffered a breakdown of nervous functioning, or a supposed depression lasting for 18 months, as reported by Huygens. He suffered insomnia and poor digestion, in his letters to friends showing signs of irrationality.
>The limited evidence for symptomatic mental illness of Newton during this period stem from correspondences (c.f. The Royal Society) revealing melancholia, desire for withdrawal from relations including his good friends, insomnia, apathy, loss of appetite, delusion of persecution, possibly failures in memory (amnesia), and bipolar.
>Newton documented the first performed alchemy experiment during 1678, having first obtained furnaces and chemicals in 1669. Experiments with metal included analysis of taste of which there are 108 documented, including mercury.

File: Painted_19th_century_Tibetan_mandala_of_the_Naropa_tradition,_Vajrayogini_stands_in_the_center_of_two_crossed_red_triangles,_Rubin_Museum_of_Art.jpg (2MB, 1726x1726px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1726x1726px

>>19307090
>siddhis are "bad"
stupid
>Those things by which evil men are bound, others turn into means and gain thereby release from the bonds of existence. By passion the world is bound, by passion too it is released, but by heretical Buddhists this practice of reversals is not known.
>>19307102
>Implying people who believe in an eternal soul aren't the most dreadfully banal of them all
>>19307112
I hope your meme beliefs accidentally lead you someplace worthwhile
>>19307104
>is this hell?
4chan is more like Purgatory
>>19307121
This means he must have tasted menstrual blood and vaginal emissions too, despite his proud status as virgin.

>>19307119
>duality
What does this mean in this context?
Forgive my ignorance -- I've just seen the term used a few times in these threads and am curious. Is it just mind-body dualism?

>>19307131
Where did I say siddhis are bad? There's quite a difference between gaining powers from yogic practice and implementing yogic praxes for the primary reason of gaining siddhis. The latter is what I am railing against, not the former. Please read before you chastise.

>>19307019
>Do you honestly believe that occasionally suspending disbelief=mental illness?

Nope. I believe that, taken to its intended conclusion, it will produce a state or states indistinguishable from mental illness.

The question is whether you can find your way back, more-or-less. There's no rationalizing it.

>Also, care to elaborate on what you believed you were contributing to the discussion?

A voice of experience.

>>19307119
>hey maan we're all one. Actual spiritual powers are just a distraction. Trust me buddy while I pump your sister full of shakti.
How about no?

>>19307131
t. middle aged cat lady

I'm not entirely sure that the soul is immortal, so you might be right.

>>19307140
Seems to me like your purpose would have been better served by an anecdote than confrontationally utilizing a pseudo-Socratic method.
>>19307131
>This means he must have tasted menstrual blood and vaginal emissions too, despite his proud status as virgin.
Does it, though?

>>19307143
You're missing the point entirely. It's not about gaining or not gaining siddhis. It's about what you are PURSUING. But I wouldn't expect a Bardonite to know that.

Also, still waiting for that citation.

>>19307151

You don't know of my purpose. Separate issue.

>>19307158
I think I can get a pretty good idea from this:

>Also, care to elaborate on what you believed you were contributing to the discussion?

>"A voice of experience."

just because we're in /omg/ doesn'tnecessarily mean every word is being used in some kind of "meta" sense. I was referring to the purpose of your posting, which should be beyond obvious from context. We do have a lot of reading-comprehension-differently-abled here today, though

>>19307157
What is more worth pursuing than siddhis?

>>19307170
Unity. Gnosis. The task of the Hierophant. Probably literally hundreds of other things.

File: 800px-Vajravarahi_-_Google_Art_Project[1].jpg (304KB, 800x1261px) Image search: [Google]

304KB, 800x1261px

>>19307151
https://books.google.ca/books?id=1JiFHTlShDUC&lpg=PT205&ots=_CralIH2CW&dq=isaac+newton+magical+properties+of+whore%27s+menstrual+blood&pg=PT205&hl=en#v=onepage&q=he%20clearly%20hated%20women%2C%20may%20well%20have%20died&f=false
>>19307138
There are innumerable cases of people becoming gurus or even directly attained by attempting to harness the Siddhis for their own purposes. Either he's going to "get what he wants" from his powers and realize how fruitless it is or hes going to go through the nightmarish process whereby the Five Lights become the Five Poisons, or he's just going to give up. It's better to let people develop in their own way imo
>>19307170
Ask yourself that same question after you start to gain success with the Siddhis

>>19307183
>https://books.google.ca/books?id=1JiFHTlShDUC&lpg=PT205&ots=_CralIH2CW&dq=isaac+newton+magical+properties+of+whore%27s+menstrual+blood&pg=PT205&hl=en#v=onepage&q=he%20clearly%20hated%20women%2C%20may%20well%20have%20died&f=false
Great input from the king of fedoras, but I was looking for something a bit closer to the source than a 3rd-4th party citation.

>>19307183
>Where did I say siddhis are bad?
Also, what are the cases where people took up yoga with the expressed and primary purpose of gaining siddhis? Again, I don't deny or doubt it, just looking for some actual reported cases. People ITT seem to be allergic to citations today:

>>19306806
>>19306815
>>19306848
>>19306852
>>19306918
&c.

I have just recently gotten into chaos magick and doing some intro reading. I'd say one of my chief personal problems is feeling overall aimless in life. I have a solid career path, make great money, am good at it, but can't shake the feeling that I am meant for something bigger and deeper. I have a feeling that I was meant to cut my own path.

Does anyone any have any insight or suggestions for practices to help discover purpose or destiny?

>>19307203
Sinister Yogis.

>>19307183
>Ask yourself that same question after you start to gain success with the Siddhis
Will do. Any recommendations beyond the standard "do yoga"?

>>19307214
Do you do yoga? Because I just got the very realistic impression that I have been conversing with an armchair.

>>19306652
Don't you know about the deep esoteric element of stone nigga?

t. Fredious Trisflintstonious

>>19307227
Yes. Twice a day.