Islam & Saturn?

>>18606119
Well your friend are pretty much wrong , it's true that to be a fully fledged muslim you'd have to pray everyday etc but in the Quaran it's explicity written your just need to say " Al chahadatayn " and you're cool to go .

>>18606119
>>>/int/
>>>/his/

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>>18606119
All we do is face the box and shout, "meka leka hi meka hiney ho".

>>18606143
>>18606134
wtf hahaha


Muslim here. If you have questions I will answer them shortly for you.

We pray to the east because Makka is in the east. We face into the direction of the kabaa, because it is the first house built for God. We are not praying to the kabaa or for the kabaa or anything, just into it´s direction.

This brings unity between the muslims.

We travel to that cube because Allah said in the quran, that we have to do it once in our lifetime, if we can afford it.

The violence has nothing to do with islam. It´s mainly politics and religion gives you the strength. Smart people use it to fool the less educated and make them fight. In the end, even if it is called jihad, it is often a fight for interests.

Jihad is only allowed in self defence. Killing innocent is forbidden. A lot of things that happens to the west, is because they interfered into things, which werent their buisiness.

>>18606179
Shouldn't a jihad be self-defence i.e. protecting your family/land from invaders? Not throwing a hissy-fit and killing a handful of journalists because they defaced muhammad?

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>>18606179
Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

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worshiping a boxx

>>18606221
Yes it is. We have no right to attack the journalists and if you ask me, we should just act as if nothing happened. Do I feel offended? Yes. I don´t like it but I just dont bother with it.

But as politics can be abused, religion can be abused as well. And Islam is being abused a lot. ISIS is the best example.

Not just that, there are also a lot of imams, who abuse the religion for example to have sex with woman. Or to get money. It´s just humans being what they always were.

The west does it in the name of democracy. Killing, invading etc. Muslims do it in the name of islam. But is that really democracy? Is that really islam?

No. The problem is, that people in the west can´t differenciate anymore. The media takes it great share in this. And surely the muslims as well.

But it really isn´t islam. This may sounds clichee to you but it really isn´t. I have read the quran 4 or 5 times now and it isn´t what a lot of people try to make it be.

>>18606235
O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they
are but allies of one another72- and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one
of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers.

"the evildoing folk": i.e., those who deliberately sin in this respect. As regards
the meaning of the "alliance" referred to here, see 3:28, and more particularly 4:139 and
the corresponding note, which explains the reference to a believer's loss of his moral
identity if he imitates the way of life of, or - in Qur'anic terminology - "allies himself"
with, non-Muslims. However, as has been made abundantly clear in 60:7-9 (and implied in
verse 57 of this surah), this prohibition of a "moral alliance" with non-Muslims does not
constitute an injunction against normal, friendly relations with such of them as are
well-disposed towards Muslims. It should be borne in mind that the term wall has several
shades of meaning: "ally", "friend", "helper", "protector", etc. The choice of the particular
term - and sometimes a combination of two terms - is always dependent on the context.


That is your answer

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>>18606265
I don't agree with you.

>>18606265
And this: "but allies to one another"

According to most of the commentators (e.g., Tabari), this means that each of these two
communities extends genuine friendship only to its own adherents - i.e., the Jews to the Jews,and the Christians to the Christians - and cannot, therefore, be expected to be really
friendly towards the followers of the Qur'an.

Atheism 4 da win

>>18606268
And yet I have given you the commentary of one of the greatest commentators of the quran. As I said above, people like bagdadi are abusing islam.

Almost every muslim scolar has already said, that ISIS is not acting according to islam. Why are you so eager to belive bagdadi instead?

>>18606268
Did you even look up the other verses quoted in >>18606265

I guess not. Just leave if you don´t want to learn.

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>>18606282
>muslim scolar

>>18606282
Because he's a bigot and he's looking for an excuse.

>>18606288
is it possible that the verse has been mistranslated?
is it possible that you are misinterpreting the verse?
is it possible that you are taking the verse out of context?

>>18606179
Before Islam, the Kabaa was filled with paintings of Jesus and Mary. Islam is and always was the Anti-Christ's religion.

>>18606221
>>18606179
most rational posts I've ever seen on /x/.

>>18606305
Then why recognize Jesus as a holy prophet of Allah? It's like you're not even trying to make sense.

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>>18606282
Surah 8:36
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme."

Sounds very peaceful to me.

>>18606119
>Islam thread
>>>/pol/

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do i make myself clear?

>>18606294
Yes he is. Even if god spoke from heaven to him and told him, that islam is the right religion, ppl like him would still call all of it a lie.

>>18606300
Not mistranslated. Have you read the other quotes in the commentary to that verse?

That verse is not taken out of context. The interpretation is very common.

>>18606305
Very very few paintings of mary and jesus. Most of it were gods, the arabs made up. When the muslims claimed makka, all of these made up gods were shattered to peaces. But our prophet told the muslims to not shatter paintings of marry and jesus because christians put it up. Instead he removed everything inside the kabaa and broke it except for christian paintings.

>>18606327
Fuck off.

holy shit even /pol/ retards are invading /x/ now please keep your shit in /pol/..

>>18606324
have you read the fucking bible, m8?

your picture is stupid too. using intentional ignorance to deploy an argument based on a total misunderstanding of a faith? Yeah, it is really easy to claim the earth is flat as well when you don't know shit about science.

If we are going to cherry pick, we may as well do it to the rest of religion

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none of you kids belong on x

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>>18606334
>/x/ calling someone retards

You literally believe in tulpas, you stupid fuck.

>>18606328
is it possible that this is all a coincidence?

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please just suck the matrix dick now

>>18606324
you mean 8:38

Tell those who are bent on denying the truth that if they desist,37 all that is past shall be forgiven
them; but if they revert [to their wrongdoing], let them remember what happened to the like of
them in times gone by.38 (8:39) And fight against them until there is no more oppression and all
worship is devoted to God alone.39


37 I.e., from their endeavour to turn others away from the path of God and from waging war
against the believers.

38 Lit., "the example (sunnah) of the people of old times has already come to pass": an allusion
to the disasters that have overtaken, and are bound to overtake, those who persistently deny
moral truths.

39 I.e., until man is free to worship God. Cf. the identical phrase in 2:193, and the corresponding
note. Both these passages stress self-defence - in the widest sense of this word - as the only
justification of war.


Maybe you should stop searching for quran verses on islam hate websites.

>>18606342
>thread about tulpas
>oh noooo everybody in /x/ believes in tulpas
please go back faggot >>>/pol/

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I hope i am making myself clear that none of you should be here
>>18606347

>>18606333
>>>/pol/

>>18606354
Fuck off.

>>18606348
And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

quit bullying the muslim chap.
quit bullying the jewish chaps.
quit bullying the christian chaps.
quit bullying in general.

these activities are for /pol/ and /b/

>>18606324
>giving a Surah that do not exist
>Thinking translating from arabic to english(or other languages) doesnt change the meaning completely
>cherry picking

>>18606324
And that taqqiya bullshit is just western propaganda to make islam look bad.

Just look what taqqiya means on fucking wikipedia and you will see, how fucking wrong you are.

Taqqiya is bascially a form of self defense. You can´t just use it however you want. You property or your life has to be in danger. If that is the case, you can say you are not a muslim. Pretty fair if you ask me.

Furthermore, it is a shia practice. And I as a sunni don´t see anything wrong in it. If I have to say, that I am not a muslim to defend my life, I will do it. Anyone with a brain would do.

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okay im the only one actually talking about saturn here but faggot xtards turn it into a muslim debate please kill yourself you simple minded tranny porn watching faggots this is why you're doomed

>>18606349
>thread about islam
>oh noooo everyone on /pol/ talks about islam
please go back faggot >>>/ck/

>>18606361
look at >>18606348
he is just a retard who follows other people. He has never read the quran. It´s these islam hate websites where he got his knowledge from.

>>18606358
So which verse you dolt?

>>18606364
That doesn't make any sense and seems dishonest.

>>18606369
Tell me about the Jews. Why do they worship in the synagogue of Satan?

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>>18606328
FACT: Beetles have 6 feet, 6 knees and 6 legs...666...COINCIDENCE?

FACT: The beetle aligns with sacred geometry and fits PERFECTLY into any hexagon, cube or star of david

FACT: Beetles are mentioned in several religious texts, Exodus 8:21, Leviticus 11:22, and Psalms 105:31 which reads: "He sendeth among them the BEETLE, and it CONSUMETH them

FACT: The Beatles (not the purposeful mispelling) were part of the biggest government psy-ops operation to ever exist

FACT: John Lennon of the Beatles claimed that he was officially Bigger the Jesus

Do I make myself clear?

>>18606372
how so? If you life were in danger because you are muslim why should u not be allowed to say i am not muslim to save your life? To me it seems smart. Of course when saying it you do not mean it. It is just words coming out of your mouth and not heart.

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>>18606371
This is a spooky picture.

>>18606372
How does that not make any sense? It makes a lot of sense actually. Just read up about taqqiya on wikipedia and you will know what it actually is.

>>18606379
the jews owned the beatles?

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>>18606384
>>18606379
>>18606328
Please use the entire image next time

Either you are ignorant, or you are actively trying to HIDE the fact that beetles are SACRED. In either case, you need to stop.

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>>18606402
this is how mossad professionally derails threads goys

>>18606242
Question

>The west does it in the name of democracy. Killing, invading etc.

What is "the west"?
A bunch of sovereign countries?
Who is killing or invading?
Armed forces. Army, navy, airforce etc.

So why kill innocent civilians by running them down with trucks?
Or blow them up?
Shoot them in cold blood?
Slit their throats?

Wouldnt it make more sense to attack the people doing the actual invading and killing? Why arent the terrorists invading the US? Why aren't they fighting with the army, navy etc? Why are they not targeting the politicians that decide these pointless wars?

Wouldnt this make more sense?

>>18606179
nice taqqiya

>>18606446

"They" have lost already. The 1 is with us

>>18606515
"They" as in (((they)))?

>>18606179
Do you believe it acceptable to rape women who walk the streets unveiled or unaccompanied by a male?

>>18606179
No, You travel around the fuckin cube because it's an occult ritual that has actual effects on reality. That's why Allah/Baal commands you to do it. You can't just pretend the whole cube ritual is some coincidence and evil jews made this conspiracy to turn people away from islam.

Liberals are making islam look good if anything

You don't even need to watch tv to know islam is bad, Just go to the middle east or any muslim country in general.

>>18606572
Do you believe it acceptable to let women roam free & do as they wish?

Ask a woman what she'd like to eat. She cannot answer without outside influence.

>>18606509
The west are the rhich white nations, who have their hands all around the world.

But you are completely right. Like I said, never can the death of innocent people be excused. NEVER.

>So why kill innocent civilians by running them down with trucks?
Or blow them up?
Shoot them in cold blood?
Slit their throats?

I can just speculate. And this is also the consensus in the political fields here in europe, I share it: ISIS wants to break the relations between muslims in the west and the non muslims in the west. Maybe to start a war? Or just create hate. But to what will both of it lead in the end? To make more muslims radical. Imagine you are being treaten like shit everyday or even live in danger because you are a muslim. What would you do? At some point you would fight.
And I think that is what the ISIS is trying to do in the west. But they won´t make it. Thanks to god, most people in the west are peaceful and smart enough to not go that route.

I will be honest with you. I live in germany, I was born here. I have a lot of muslim friends. And I swear I have not found even one muslim, who would support ISIS. Every single one of them despises them. I really hope we (we the west) can defeat ISIS at some point and have our peace.

But we should not forget, that our gouverments take a big share in the creation of terrorists like ISIS. All these terror acts occured because the west interferred into the muslim lands.

>Wouldnt it make more sense to attack the people doing the actual invading and killing? Why arent the terrorists invading the US? Why aren't they fighting with the army, navy etc? Why are they not targeting the politicians that decide these pointless wars?
Wouldnt this make more sense?

Sure it would. But do they even have the slightest chance? No. So they use the tactics of cowards. Killing unharmed innocent people. They absouletely must not be able to break us (muslims and non muslims) in the west apart. They would win that way.

>>18606653
Muslims have been terrorizing in the name of allah for centuries before isis. Have any other false reasons?

>>18606572
Surely not, what a stupid question. Look you are being offensive by asking such retarded questions.

>>18606608
Again, you people need to differenciate between Islam and muslims.

>>18606529
"They" as in

There is no fear there is only four

There is no hope there is only one

Dinner for one is this plane.

>>18606662
Terrorizing who? The ones who invaded their lands? This is the BS people like you who have no clue at all, always talk.

>>18606671
Terrorizing the lands muslims invade. Such as the US, Europe, Asia, everywhere. Also, muhammad may pig shit be upon him was a terrorist and child molester.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Educate yourself, Abdul.

>>18606683
Btfo pol. How many real muslims you know? Learn about Rumi and Sufi tradtion then come back

>>18606692
I like how you evade questions and cannot give a honest answer.

>>18606692
Is it not true that If a Muslim wife refuses to wear a veil, others will see her as her husband's slave rather than his wife?

Don't lie.

>>18606119
Praying to the east is common in orthodox christianity too. The sun rises from east. It is said that if you praying to the west you are praying to the devil pe something

http://www.adultswim.com/videos/xavier-renegade-angel/kharmarabionic-lotion/

>>18606119
Mindless ritual, the culture of cults. Repeating the same thing that their parents did because they were too ignorant to question their beliefs.

>>18606704

Yes and she should die like a pig. What's your point?

>>18606683
All these things happened because of your interferences. Now fuck off.

I see, it´s the time for american posters.

>>18606704
>>18606683
>>18606662
Here's the thing: all religion is dogshit. It impedes our progress as a species. However, as an individual, I don't get to decide whether or not people actually get to practice their religion, because I'm not a fucking asshole. And there are shit parts of every religion, because all religions operate based on absolutely no actual factual evidence.

Science has a factual structure off of which you base your deductions. The equivalent structure in religion is made up of two parts which are: 1) Their doctrine/holy book 2)The interpretation of that doctrine/holy book which is most accepted and understood in their particular religious community.

So that being said, listen to the guy who actually read the Quran and represents the majorly accepted, modern interpretation of it.

Stop fucking cherry picking religious texts you don't actually give a shit about. Stop pretending you give a shit about the way women are portrayed in the Quran as an excuse to undermine the religion and validate terrorists as correct representations of Islam. Your point of reference as to whether or not ISIS is a correct, modern interpretation of the Quran/Islam should be the opinion of the majority of the people who are Muslim/Sunni/Shiite, which is a statistically proven, overwhelming "No".'

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

Let people practice their garbage religions.

>>18607080
thank you. A man with a brain. You can be atheist or whatever you want but as long as you respect me and my religion, you have all of my respect.

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>>18607080
>>>/r/atheism
I'm non-religious, and I can tell all religions are not objectively equal. Don't give a pseudo-intellectual rant about shit you know nothing about.

Thank fuck for atheism. Muslim, Christian you all sound like superstitious, hypocritical fuckwits desu.

>>18607242
Here we go all BS is made up again. Well idiots like you would belive anything. I could make up a chart about muslims beliving in cleopatra or something and you would put it right next to the chart in your picture.
Still Islam is a religion while muslims are humans.

>>18607268
>It's all lies!
Okay Ahmed.

>>18606119
Saturn is for faggots

>>18607280
Then you'd be Saturn's #1 fan.

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>>18607268
Ok

>>18607302
My little brother would make a better chart I swear.

Did you know that 45% of german man have raped their daughters?

66% of all woman in scandinavia have killed their first born child etc etc.

I think you know where I am going. Now go to sleep child.

>>18606380
Christians die Christians.

God's gonna kick your ass for denying that shit.

>>18607319
i dont think that was the point
also, stop spitting false values, nobody is believing you unless you have a source

>>18606664
>Muslims don't understand Islam like I understand it
Fine. You should take that up with them. Maybe you can lead a reform. although it's more likely they'd just kill you.

The gray race created the Islamic religion as a cover for their occult power plants, which are mainly based in Saudi Arabia - the residue of this process is called oil.

>>18606179

why are apostates sentenced to death in a religion of peace bruh?

>>18608570
Kafir are not people.

>>18607416
Well how is he not spitting false values because I do not see any source for his weird pictures. Why aren´t you telling him the same thing? You are biased.

>>18607506
Hey how about you read the quran and make your own mind up? It has nothing to do with how I understand islam.
Here you have a good translation with commentary http://muhammad-asad.com/Message-of-Quran.pdf

>>18607536
There was no need to create anything to gain power with their oil. Jesus christ people didnt even knew what oil was to the time of the prophet and further on.

>>18608570
Read the thread BRUH. It´s people being shitty. Christians did the same in the past.

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>>18606379
>beetles have 6 feet, 6 knees, and 6 legs
>COINCIDENCE?
Yes, I've got two legs, two knees, and two feet. Big fucking deal

>>18606356
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pol

>>18606509
I don't know why people don't talk about the western interference. Just about every nation that the west has stuck their noses into they've left the country worse of then it was before. And they do it by saying they're bringing democracy or some shit but what they're really trying to do is establish puppet states and exploit the nations people and resources

>>18606329
So what? Do Muslims or should I rather say the quran see Christianity as like their religious brother that's to stupid to know better? Also is the Jew hate justified in the Quran or is this just a modern thing?

>>18606330
I got banned from /x/ for posting this once.

>>18606375
The have alota loyalty for a chosen one

>>18608747
I did not understand your first question.

Hey the muslims hate the jews because of political reasons, that should be obvious. Palestine Israel conflict ever heard about it? The quran is not telling us to hate jews nor christians.

>>18608772
Yeah I figured that I was just checking. I mean like does the quran not have a problem with christianity or Judaism. Do you guys believe they are heretics or something?

>>18608778
No not at all. We belive that judaism and christianity was send by god. But we also belive, that the holy books of the christians and jews have been corrupted.

That´s the reason, why Allah/God has send Hz Muhammad as last messenger. It´s basically an "update" of the older religions. Jesus for example is a prophet in Islam and the son of god. furthermore, we don´t belive that Jesus was crossed and killed but that Allah has saved him and took jesus to him.

The quran doesen´t call christians and jews kafir but people of the book.

>>18608790
*not the son oft God

>>18608793
You know if i think about it I'm pretty damn sure the Christians have corrupted the bible and the pope the faith. The pope keeps changing or accepting this and that. You know the popes words or dogmatic decrees are meant to be the word of God how does this make you feel and other muzzies? I mean like he said gays won't go to hell and some other shit.
Also is the Quran sopose to be the untainted word of Mohammed and in turn God? I know the new testament were personally hand picked. And the Jews have like dozens of other books

>>18608790
Mohammed can't even get Christianity right so why would I trust him on anything else. It's so insulting to Jesus and his disciples for someone to come along 600 years after the fact and claim to know him better then his own loyal followers. The disciples lived with him, were taught by him and in many cases died for him and his teaching. The gospels were written in the first century. Mohammed was a warlord, Jesus was peaceful and never killed or advocated killing. I follow Jesus the son of God who died on the cross for my sins. You can't say in one breath that Christianity was sent by God then in the next say it is wrong. Mohammed is what I call a plagirist.

>>18608801
We belive it is a great sin what the pope does. That´s how we feel about it.
When it comes to gays, I think it is important how they live their lifes. If a gay man doesen´t have sex with another man and lives a not gay life, he can get into paradise as well. I think.

I have thought about it. What if you are really born gay and you can´t control it? It would be unfair, right?
But if that´s the case, I think that´s a test by god. If you are strong enough to not go for your sexual desires as a gay man, maybe god will grant you much more in heaven and forgive you much more sins because you passed a really hard test.

Like I said, I think a gay man can get into paradise as long as he doesent follow his sexual desires and leads a religous life.

We belive that gabriel has brought the words of god to our prophet. there is not one passage in the quran, that comes from Hz Muhammad. Everything is from Allah. Hz Muhammad is just his messenger.

>>18608891
But what if the things that had been written, have been corrupted or changed? As far as I know, the gospels or whatever books you call holy were written by men which didn´t even knew jesus personally. People who had many years after him. For example mark. I might be wrong on the name but as far as I know, all these books werent written by people who were close to jesus.

What makes you so sure, that they weren´t wrong? What if Hz Muhammad was truly a prophet and what he said about christianity is right? Think about it.

>ou can't say in one breath that Christianity was sent by God then in the next say it is wrong.

I am still saying christianity is send by god. But it has been corrupted. I am not saying it is wrong. In Islam jesus is a prophet and we love him more then our lifes.

I won´t bother with your killing and warlord arguments because you clearly dont know much about our prophet and what he went through. He was truly wonderful man, a messenger of Allah just like jesus, moses, noah and so on.

>>18608948
*who werent close to jesus. They didnt even know jesus personally

>>18608948
* And by saying we belive it is great sin I mean that he or they say, that he is speaking the word of god.

>>18608685
Take it up with the Muslims. I'm not the one bombing people in this thing's name. It's not my job to understand it better. It's theirs.

>>18606179
Taqqiya in action folks.

>>18609077
But they don´t know it either. But if you knew it, you would know that they don´t know it. You would at least know the truth. It seems you don´t want to know it though even though you have all the opportunities to gain the knowledge.

>>18609119
Typical poltard.

>>18609207
suck it bitch. you know it is true.

>>18609382
Keep on hating. But we will meet us on the day of judgement. We will see then who talked the truth and who not.

>>18606179
What would your kind do if I brownfaced myself, pretended to be a mute Muslim (can't speak Arabic or Persian) and went to place my hands on your precious cube?

>>18609821
Nothing would happen. It is not allowed for non muslims to go their. If you do go and pretend to be muslim, you will be able to go.

>>18609851
My question is: do you reject modern science and believe the Koran when it says sperm originates from the mid-gut section of a man's body?

>>18609207
I'm reading the Bible right now. I'll get around to the Quran at a later date.

>>18606242
muslim here to, anon gets it

You fuckers support radical muslims and overthrow the leaders fighting them and then blame islam when those radicals take power

>>18609856
Where does it say that my friend show me some proof right now.

>>18609946
Thats great. Please read this translation with commentary: http://muhammad-asad.com/Message-of-Quran.pdf

Or just buy the quran from muhammad asad with commentary. It´s really good and quotes a lot of the most famous and well known commentators in islamic history.

>>18606327
go back to your shill infested hole, ben over and comply you fucking goym islam bad reeee

>>18606179
>Jihad is only allowed in self defence. Killing innocent is forbidden. A lot of things that happens to the west, is because they interfered into things, which werent their buisiness.

>Killing innocent is forbidden

Killing ANYONE should be forbidden. Allowing the killing of those who "Aren't innocent" leaves room for extremists to take those views and see everyone who isn't Islamic as "Not innocent" and worthy of death

>Sand people religion is weird and sort of scary.

Well it stems from the same place.

>>18609978
"Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted - Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:"
S. 86:5-7

>>18606372
if i pull a gun on you and tell you i'll kill you if your name is john, would you tell me your name is john?

>>18606572
is this a serious question? have you ever met a muslim? no you stupid shit

>>18606446
This
>This
this
>This

Everyone read the Kybalion today

>http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php

>>18606608
again the west has bombed and supported radicals in the middle east; and dethroned stable governments.

Ow look at how much power those radical muslims have in the middle east, islam must be to blame

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>>18609991
>YFW the Quran thinks babies come from piss

>>18606662
who has islam been terrorising i'm a history major, every fucking part of the world waged war non stop.

>>18606683
not one region in the world has killed as many people as europe (i'm european) i'm not ashamed of this it happend, do we blame christianity?

Not one nation in the history of man has invaded and killed as many people as the US has in the past century, either by force, deposing governments or economic warfare do we blame christianity?

no you stupid fuck

>>18610032
>not one region in the world has killed as many people as europe (i'm european)

China.

>do we blame christianity?

To be fair, in some instances you should. Even though it is more about the institutionalization of it rather than the religion itself. I.e. The Vatican.

>Not one nation in the history of man has invaded and killed as many people as the US has in the past century, either by force, deposing governments or economic warfare

China, Russia, and Germany. And to be fair England is probably tied with the U.S. for now.


>no you stupid fuck


You seem pretty uneducated yourself bud. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you are trying to draw conclusions that don't exist as an argument against hating Islam.

>>18609077
yes we are, we live in a democracy every single terrorist our nation supports and every single arab we bomb is on us. thats the point of bein in a democracy

>>18610057
Did you vote for it?

I didn't.

>>18610051
>china killed other chinese, not talking about massacres done on your own people

>no you shouldnt you cant blame a religion because someone used it for his own gaines

what nations did china russia and england destroy in the past 50 years?

>>18610065
you didn't vote "doing nothing in the the face of evil makes you no better then the evildoer'

we voted those people in power and didn't take them down when they abused it, it is on our head.

Or what did you think democracy was? just for us to act all high and mighty?

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>>18610068
>china killed other chinese, not talking about massacres done on your own people

You're a fucking idiot...

China was not always a unified nation. Back when they first started killing each other they were just like Europe. Different kingdoms or nation states that went to war off and on for thousands of years.

>HURR DURR THEY KILLED OTHER CHINESE

Oh fuck off, they killed millions upon millions of people. Europeans are all Europeans are they not? Or do you think killing is somehow worse if you kill someone that isn't from your arbitrarily defined "nation".

>no you shouldnt you cant blame a religion because someone used it for his own gaines

You do realize that most religion, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were literally created to help certain people who created them and lead them, meet their own ends, right? You might be retarded. But you can't be that retarded. You wouldn't be able to type if you were that retarded.

>what nations did china russia and england destroy in the past 50 years?

Nice of you to move the goalposts. The original comment I responded to said the past 100 years. But even in the past 50...the UK has been complacent in fucking up everything you want to blame the U.S. for fucking up. The UK was the OG fucker upper of nearly every nation that has issues today. In the past hundred years they successfully finished doing to pretty much all of Africa what they are helping the U.S. and the rest of Europe do now to the middle east. Granted they started well before 1917.

And Russia? Russia if you don't remember has bulldozed nations up until pretty recently. They had their own fuckfest in Afghanistan. They more or less held half of Europe hostage for a few decades. Killed off more people than Hitler.

And the list goes on bud.

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>>18606179
Do you think it is ok for a 50 year old man to marry and have sex with a 9 year old girl?

>>18610079
>you didn't vote "doing nothing in the the face of evil makes you no better then the evildoer'

I voted pretty much every election since I was old enough to vote...

>we voted those people in power and didn't take them down when they abused it, it is on our head.

Your head, maybe.

>Or what did you think democracy was? just for us to act all high and mighty?

I'm not sure about you, but I live in a Republic. Which is a bit different from strictly Democratic nations. I have rights taht can't be taken away, and each time people have tried to do so I have been one of the first people to say "Hey, wait a minute..."

Dunno man. It sounds like you feel guilty for trusting people you knew you shouldn't have trusted.

>>18609991

86:5-7 "LET MAN, then, observe out of what he has been created: (6) he has been created out of a
seminal fluid (7) issuing from between the loins [of man] and the pelvic arch [of woman].3"

The plural noun tara'ib, rendered by me as "pelvic arch", has also the meaning of "ribs" or "arch of
bones"; according to most of the authorities who have specialized in the etymology of rare Quranic
expressions this term relates specifically to female anatomy (Taj al-'Arus).

Nothing wrong here. It´s speaking about man and woman.

>>18610172
Taqqiya techniques 101.

>>18610172
>>18610021
>>18609991

Dr. Zakir Naik writes:In embryonic stages, the reproductive organs of the male and female, i.e. the
testicles and the ovaries, begin their development near the kidney between the spinal column and the eleventh and twelfth ribs. Later they descend; the female gonads (ovaries) stop in the pelvis while the male gonads (testicles) continue their descent before birth to reach the scrotum through the inguinal canal. Even in the adult after the descent of the reproductive organ, these organs receive their nerve supply and blood supply from the Abdominal
Aorta, which is in the area between the backbone (spinal column) and the ribs. Even the lymphatic drainage and the venous return goes to the same
area.

The Encarta Encyclopedia article on the formation of the testes confirms, "In man the testis is an oval organ about 5 cm (about 2 in) long. During embryonic development it is located in the abdominal cavity, but about a month before birth it normally descends into a pouch of skin called the scrotum. Each testis contains about 800 narrow twisting tubes, called seminiferous tubules, that are lined with cells that, upon maturation, divide to form the sperm. The seminiferous tubules merge and form a larger tube, the epididymis. Sperm travels from the testis through the epididymis to the vas deferens, which carries the sperm to the urethra. Sperm exits from the urethra during ejaculation (the release of semen during orgasm). In man the sex hormone produced by the testis is testosterone, which controls the growth of the male reproductive system and stimulates the development of the male secondary sexual characteristics, such as the growth of the beard, the deepening of the voice, and the male contours of the body"

That is for verse 86:5-7

>>18610193
see>>18610193

>>18610172
>>18610193
>>18610193
Answer>>18610145

>>18610172
>>18610193
So why does it say it's "Yellow and fine in texture" here
>>18610021

>>18610215
Which verse is that? My translation is as see here:>>18610172
Furthermore, it is even being discussed, that sperm is not meant in that verse. Because the word sperm or seminal fluid isn´t even used in the arabic quran in that particular verse. You have to ask someone who know it better in that case mate.

>>18610214
If the child is in puberty, it can have sex. If not, sex is not allowed. Furthermore, if the child which hit puberty wants to marry, then I am for it.

If the child does not want to marry then it´s completely wrong to force it.

>>18610229
another note: The person who wants to marry has to be psychologically healthy. If a girl hit puberty, wants to marry and is psychologically healthy and the parents agree, then yes it can marry.
Forcing it is completely wrong.

A woman can also always divorce from a man. She just has to say it three times in front of 1 or 2 I dont know people who can confirm it.

>>18610215
>>18610183
Read this on 86:5-7

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/alleged_contradiction_between_qur_an__86_5_7__and_embryology__by_islamtoday/

>>18606179

I can't wait to throw the crumpled corpses of your kind onto a burning pyre.

>>18609991
Could be talking about core strength / mid section as a whole / gut feelings / dare I say love?

The cube is a brazen bull. Moloch worship.

>>18610682
You are a poet my friend.

>>18610690
Preach nigga. Fuck islam and fuck moderate muslims that try to justify it through mental gymnastics. I'd pound mia khalifa so hard

>>18606143
Underrated post

>>18606179
>muh ammad

Sorry what's the hz. Sopose to many. Is it like sir or something?

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>>18606119
>>18606134
>>18606179
we all worship saturn. look at the nike symbol, saturn.

with muslims its a cube, with christians its a cube unfolded, with jews its the lines traced in a cube that gives us the star of david. its everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tNG_KUJsJs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhEluZ9rW-Y

>>18606221
>>18606235
>>18606315
>>18609821
>/pol/

>>18611678
It means Hazrat, a honour title in Arabic. Kind of like Sir, yes.

>>18606119
That has to be the smelliest place on earth

>>18606119
It's an asteroid in the cube:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone

Muslims worship a rock.

>>18611708
I hate to shatter your fragile world view, but people fed up with islam are bigger than /pol/.

>>18606937
The Balkans you pig fucking nigger

>>18607227
Fuck you and your religion.

God, or "Yahweh", or "Allah", is actually a demon that tricked humans into worshipping it. Its goal is to make humans commit acts of violence and destruction on its behalf for its own pleasure. Jesus was possessed.

>>18613267
.. This is the basis of the gnostic bible.

christianity & judaism have a moral dispensation apart from islam. islam was not even in existence 500 years after Yeshua ascended to heaven.

Islam is a false religion (really, a death cult) that worships a false god that was invented by a false prophet

there is a problem in the world now, and its not christians or jews

>>18610953
She's a Christian lmao

>>18612991
Didnt Saturn/Cronos spit up a stone in greek myth when Zeus fed him poison or something?

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Tfw /x/ is actually quite smart and open on Islam and Muslims despite some /pol/ fags.
This board us, in fact, the most redpilled and educated among 4chan

>>18615347
Thank you. It took years of cultivation.

>>18606179
Reported to the FBI and ICE.

>>18614611
Gaia fed Cronos a rock instead of Zeus, wrapped in blankets to make it appear like a baby.