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Disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon

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Two Dutch girls that disappeared during a hike in Panama. 10 weeks after their disappearance bone fragments and a backpack were found. Inside there were their cell phones and a camera.
By their phones logs they tried to call 911 several times but there were no signal in the remote area where they were. The camera had normal pictures of the day of the disappearance of landscapes and the girls hinking. After that day, the camera went dormant for 7 days until 1:00 am on April 8, when it recorded night pics of a barranco and some sticks with red plastics, and more than 90 completely black pictures.
The case is about to be closed without any conclusions.

Here one of the best recopilations about this case http://mostlymystery.com/found/

What are your hypothesis of this?

Maybe this case was posted many times here, sorry I'm not a /x/ lurker.
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>>16991367

>calling 911 in Panama
>retarded bitches confirmed
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>>16991375
they called 112 (EU emergency number)
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This interests me
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call david paulides op
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>>16991367
They got lost like dumb cityborn tourists in the middle of fuckin Panama. The netherlands aren't exactly known for their extensive woodlands

They used cameras for the flash, infrequently trying to save battery. People were out with flairs looking for them, found nothing.

Orange thing picture was probably keeping track of a marker.

Near the end of their journey one of them fell into a ravine, at the time of the last 911 call. No result, felled girl died, other went on ahead, dying of a similar fall up the river aways. Panama's hot and wet, so they were bones within days probably, compared to the months to years up in the cold dry places you probably come from.
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>>16991390
Man this is incredibly thought out; props.
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>>16991390
A flash would cause something to show up in the picture, no?
What were the photographing, the fucking sky?
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Possibility 1: They likely either bumped into bandits or cartel people, and were raped and murdered after a brief pursuit.

Possibility 2: One was injured severely, and the other went looking for help before meeting a similar fate.

Possibility 3: They just got lost and starved to death or died due to other causes thanks to a lack of basic survival skills.

Of all the people who die mysteriously in Latin America though I'm probably least concerned about a pair of Dutch girls who decided it was a good idea to go hiking through jungles sometimes haunted by bandits, criminal gangs, and drug smugglers without consideration made for protecting themselves from other people or the dangers of being out in the wild.
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>>16991411
Are you a retarded american? Not all Latin America is like Mexico.
Stop watching hollywood blockbusters.
Panama is mostly a safe country even more in remote regions.

Possibility 3 is correct.
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>>16991439
Stop cock riding Latin America. Anyone anywhere is capable of murder.
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>>16991439

>He doesn't know that Panama is a major transit country for international smuggling thanks to the ease of registering ships, shell corporations, and other such things with little scrutiny or regulation
>Doesn't know that I've lived with Panamanians, Colombians, Bolivians ex-soldiers, and Guatemalans
>Doesn't know that I've driven from Texas through Mexico to Guatemala City for business before

I know what it's like down there faggot. I wouldn't go into some of those border towns in Guatemala or Nicaragua or remote jungles unless I was packing serious heat and had a bunch of friends carrying similarly.
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>>16991401
the flash wasn't to pick things up. It was to cast light over as much of a distance as possible


Phone cameras aren't good are doing anything really. They weren't aiming the flash at anything, they were trying to cast light over as much of the area as possible. Those "black" pictures have ground in them, which would fuck with the camera light adjustments making the path they were illuminating invisible. They were either trying to cast that light forwards to a source of a flair, or forwards to see a path, that it.
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>>16991459
As I said, and you confirmed that your source of information about Lat America was basically Mexico.
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>>16991492

>Guatemala, Colombia, Panama, Bolivia
>Basically Mexico
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>>16991401
They probably were trying to atract the attention of someone like a chopter or someone they heard.
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>>16991499
>>16991411
> who decided it was a good idea to go hiking through jungles sometimes haunted by bandits, criminal gangs, and drug smugglers without consideration made for protecting themselves from other people or the dangers of being out in the wild.

Have you been to Panama? Is not El Salvador you know.
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>>16991367
After some digging I came across this. Do you think the girl on the left could be the same one that is strapped to the chair in my pic.
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>>16991500
Of course they were, women are constantly trying to attract attention from any phalic object.
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>>16991524
Pic of the movie Wrong Turn.. Nice b8
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Im from Panama and I saw this on the news. The allegedly reason of the disappearance it is due to a tribe nearby that has cannibal instincts. There was a severed foot on the forest nearby and nobody know what the fuck happened.
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They left the path and got lost, tried to call for help then turned the phones off to try to conserve battery, occasionally turning them on when they thought they might have service. When they heard people searching for them they tried to signal with their camera flashes but failed (always carry a whistle, /out/) then as their strength was failing one of them fell off a cliff and was injured seriously which prompted the other to desperately try to call for help again before abandoning her. Then the one who fell died then the one who didn't fall died. They decomposed quickly in the hot, wet jungle and their remains were scattered by scavenging wildlife until they got small enough to be washed downstream.
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>>16991439
>Panama is mostly a safe country even more in remote regions.
>>16991620
it is due to a tribe nearby that has cannibal instincts.

hmmmm...super safe, just watch out for the cannibals
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>>16991606
Thanks dudebro
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>>16991702
safe country and says it has cannibals. facepalm
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what if everything suddenly went black, like a huge black cloud engulfed them, and the 90 or so pictures are documenting the phenomenon? then eventually they died or something like that?
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>>16991733
Yeah dude it's called night.
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>>16991397
>http://mostlymystery.com/found/

Not hard to read the info in the OP link...
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>>16991367
This is like... Wrong Turn! Cannibals? Can't the police just go take them out? Find evidence of their victims and arrest them?
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>>16991481
So the moon doesn't shine in Panama? why pictures instead of videos?

Your logic is flawed anon.
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>>16991367
the only real mystery of this is 7 fucking days until they used the camera again
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>>16991481
I didn't see the black photographs. Apologies anon
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>>16992019
I guess if you get lost in a jungle you would not be in the mood to keep taking pictures for facebook of your cool adventures in Panama.
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>>16992022
got a link?
can't find them
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>>16992036
7 NIGHTS in the jungle before they used their flash. What made them use it on that night rather then the other nights. Moron
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>>16992051
http://imgur.com/a/ITPQC
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>>16991367

The whole thing could have been avoided if they brought a solar charger for their phones and used googles offline save feature. Remember /x/ that your GPS phone is satellite linked and works everywhere on planet earth.
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>>16992067
thanks /out/
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>>16992067
They probably used Apple Maps
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>>16991390
this is the official conclusion of the panama investigators, the family of one of the girls accepted this hypothesis, but the family of the other girl don't, and bealives there were a third party and pushed the Panama goverment to reopen the case and allow more searchings with a dutch specialists.
Those new searchings found nothing and this case is about to be close again.
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>>16991456
Sorry I couldn't hear you I was blowing my husband.
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>>16991367
>Panama
You might have heard of the drug cartels, they probably stumbled onto the wrong kind of farm and got silenced for it.
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>>16991375
My country actually intends to have 911 because nobody actually know what the real emergency numbers are.
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>>16992433

no exif
y

these are not the original pics, and they only released 2 of the fucking album?

what can we do :o
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>>16992864
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bleh
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>>16991390
>They used cameras for the flash, infrequently trying to save battery

>not having maps or gps on your smart phone and an expensive ass data bill

beats death imo
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>Still, I’ve never encountered anything before like a shoe containing a human foot

This is actually really common, especially with people who die in the water. Animals/fish can't get at the foot, because the shoe protects it. And most people wear sneakers that are relatively buoyant in water, especially after the leg is gone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries
http://www.wdrb.com/story/27168500/arm-foot-found-along-kentucky-rivers-one-day-apart
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>>16991508
He's right, you are wrong.
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>>16991390
case solved
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>>16992917
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>>16991733
>>16991740

underated
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>>16991456
it's okay, dont worry, they hate you too buddy.
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>>16992917

Is this a picture they took on the night of their death?

The spooks for me is what they did for 7 days in the jungle, how it must have felt to see the sun go down each night.

This is fucking with my head
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>>16992960
they kept walking north for 8 days?
the fucking south is the village?
sun rises in the east? no compass?
wtf tho

not much we can do.
the whole pics werent released
no exif
:/
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>>16992995
>Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon google images
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>>16993008
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>>16993013
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>>16992864
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>>16991983
wouldn't videos waste more battery than pictures?
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>>16991983
You can't use a flash to take videos. You can't even trigger the flash in video mode.
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>>16991456
you're a sad sack of shit
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>>16991670
racist and stupid
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>>16991456
fucking wow you are projecting so hard you could be used for slideshows of their holiday pics
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Nice to see tumblr showed up and triple posted.
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>>16991381
only by the phones logs it's pretty obvious they got lost.
The last normal picture on their camera was about 2:00pm
After that they probably left the track and went to explore the jungle(a very dangeroud thing to do if you don't know the area well).
They tryed to call for help at 4:39pm when they realized they got lost.
Spend the first night in the jungle and tryied to call several times in the morning.
They understood there was no signal, and the rest of the time just were checking the phones for signal.
The pictures at night after 7 days in the jungle could be an attempt to scare some wild animal with the flash.
They probably die from a fall intothe river as the backpack and some of their remains weere found near the river.
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>>16991456
>I fucking hate women.
well... thanks for just saying it straight up i guess.... at least you can admit it to yourself unlike most people
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>>16993452
NO U
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>>16993292
Too bad /r9k/ got here first. 4chan is 18+ btw.
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>>16993022
One eyed snake?
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>>16993074
Depends on the device, Nigger.
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Why do you find so hard to believe that two cityborn cattle died in the woodland because they don't know shit about survivalism?

7 days lost in that place (is it a jungle? still is wet as fuck) is enough to die from sickness like an infection, there are poisonous things too and lets not say about falling into some hole or shit like that...
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They went hiking in booty shorts and tank tops, with nothing else.

That should explain EVERYTHING about their fate.
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>>16991456
What was her name, anon?
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>>16993617
>>16993485
>>16993262
>>16993102
>>16992979

Holy shit the mods deleted his post hahahahah
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>>16993616
>>>/b/
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>>16991481
Lens cover on in those black pictures?
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>>16991733
You guys are literally fucking stupid and have never used a camera, the fucking lens cap was on during those 90 or so pictures
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>>16993594
Kill yourself
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>>16991524
lmfao
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>>16992864
they say like 90 photos were black but I'm not sure if these guys have tried brightening the pictures through curves in photoshop. That shit reveals even the tiniest of details like the one you're posting. The whole picture might appear black but there might be differences, even a single digit, in the colors which photoshop can pick out and brighten up the picture where there are differences.

I really hope they made use of the 90 black photos.
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>>16993930

>Once turned on, the camera clicked away steadily for the next three hours, 88 more pictures in all — and all but one (held by the families) described as either “black” or “dark”. The camera had an automatic shutter so we know there was no lens cap to get in the way. Independent Criminalist Dick Steffens, who, on behalf of the families, has been pressing the Dutch government to be more proactive in dealing with the case, has said he believes the photos were made in a “deep, dark place….One explanation for the dark pictures could be that women have been locked up and using the flash on the camera tried to attract attention.”(www.telegraaf.nl) More from Mr. Steffens later.

>The camera had an automatic shutter so we know there was no lens cap to get in the way.

>automatic shutter, no lens cap

Flash doesn't occur without a photo being taken which was the case with an automatic shutter if lens cap were on.


Read OP's link. There's a lot of info in there regarding what happened.

We need the 88 black photos to play with in photoshop to see a lot more helpful clues than what fuckwits might think are just black photos. I don't understand why officials haven't tried to raise the brightness in these black photos through photoshop curves. Imagine the data in all those images like >>16992864
>>16992900
>>16993022
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>>16993930
You don't believe in mememagik
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>and all but one (held by the families) described as either “black” or “dark”.

What's in that one photo /x/?
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>>16991367
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>>16991740
Kek
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>>16992071
this is no laughing matter, but that was funny. sadly, I keked. loudly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE8k-A9qKBQ

>It's the government. They're harvesting smart and high IQ people with german descent to experiment on.
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>>16993559
Do you even understand what a flash on a camera is? Jesus Christ, I know this board is full of stupid 12 year olds, but this takes the goddamn cake.
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>>16996039
How do you expect anyone to sit through
1) 1 hours 47 mins
2) of some absolutely random dude
3) talking on a slideshow
4) with quite possibly no real basis and reliability in his content?
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>>16996149
You must be new here.
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>>16996166
I... guess everyone here on /x/ listens to some random youtuber talk for 2 hours about spoopy aliens and conspiracies.
I don't, I'm sorry.
>yes I believe in the paranormal and that has nothing to do with this. What I'm saying is that no one has that much attention span, sorry.
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>>16991367
Those "plastics" are condoms... They were raped..
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>>16996174
You should maybe google David Paulides
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>>16996149
its coast to coast

i turn it on while im doing anything aroiund my apt.
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>>16996340
I don't live in america sorry. I don't even drive a car. Let alone listen to radio.
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>>16996343

>Doesn't listen to radio
>Has internet access

What a time to be alive.
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>>16996477
>radio
>internet

pick one dumb fuck.
stuck living in two eras??
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>>16996489

You poor ignorant fuck. You have my pity.
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>>16991367
Dutch bimbos get culturally enriched by Panamanians, what's the mystery?
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So fuckd to think these bitches died some gnarly deaths while we are in our comfortable homes browsing /x/ shooting the shit about what might have happened.

>what a time to be alive.jar
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>>16996491
do you use dial-up too?
fucking retarded mongoloid who can't decide whether to go left or right and needs his nostalgic glasses. pick the 80s or 21st century, dumb shit.
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>>16996510

>Doesn't know that almost all radio stations now broadcast online

Just stop. You're making yourself look really dumb, my foreign friend.
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>>16991367

Oh no a spoopy skeleton and a titcow are dead.
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>>16996512
>implying radio stations being broadcasted online = you must consume it

there's used diapers that your mum owns back from the 1950s being sold on ebay, does that mean you're obligated to buy it? jesus christ you're narrow minded and narcissistic
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>>16992864
DOES NO ONE BUT ME SEE THE FUCKING MAN CROUCHING IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER
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>>16991367
I am by no means an expert on panama but if its anything like BC then im guessing there are very large predatory animals that live in the forest.

the thing that makes the most sense to me is they got lost, tried to call for help, survived a few days alone, and either fell into the river and died or got to the river at a really bad time and were eaten alive by an animal that was trying to fish. does panama have bears?
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>>16996523
Circle it, Anon.
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>>16996523
yea i see it
that light is in front of trees
looks like the moon but
how the fuck does the moon real if its 5' above the ground and in front of trees
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>>16996575
oops i thought u said top right
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>>16996544
Seems to be big contenders like jaguars, cougars, and crocodiles for example. Sorry to say but I hope they had the time of their life on their trip, it looks beautiful and fascinating.
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>>16996523
not even kinda. where?
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>>16995810
of course not, the forensic tech analysts don't know how to use photoshop, you should call them and tell them!
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>>16991670
I was so confused reading this: what's a tacocoon?
Then I realised. A coon of the taco.
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>>16996512

>>16996517
this anon has a point. granted, radios are important and they can serve you where times internet can't (i.e. on the road when you're driving, during an apocalypse, etc), but otherwise you aren't a special snowflake for listening to radio like an old school junkhead. You're like the kind of kid who thinks he's superior to other kids because he was born in the 90's.
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>>16996948
honestly I don't think they thought of it. Every article points to the camera having black photos and that being that. And it's never actually discussed if these black photos were further analyzed -- the information provided rang that they just dismissed it and dumped it.

It's also said that they haven't released other photos that WEREN'T black either, and I have no idea why.
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>>16996144
You can activate flash on the iphone in video mode you mongloid faggot.
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>>16997041
They send the phones and camera to a forensic tech lab in Netherlands, it's pretty obvious they tryed that and more.
I feel like this board is filled with retards or 12yo.
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>>16997083
how do you explain why they haven't released the said photos that aren't black then?
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>>16997143
How are point you why interpret?
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>>16997143
what point are you trying to make?
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>>16993008
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>>16992067
>Remember /x/ that your GPS phone is satellite linked and works everywhere on planet earth.
no it does not you fucking moron
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>>16997083
welcome to /x/
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>>16997017

I'm superior because I was born in the 80s, thank you.
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>>16997218

Actually the GPS feature certainly does track you globally, you fucking moron. That's exactly what Google Maps offline save feature is for, you complete fucking jmbecile. It saves GPS breadcrumbs and uploads them when a data connection is once again available.

If you're going to call someone a fucking idiot, at least be correct, or you will deal with the realization that YOU are the piece of moronic shit after all.
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>>16991740
Kekkles and muscles
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>>16997783
lolnoi it uses ground based stations and your phone's accelerometer fyi. now kindly fuck off
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>>16991390
>>16991397
the first thing i thought of was the camera flash and marker. i should be a detective
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>>16991390
>The netherlands aren't exactly known for their extensive woodlands
M-maar muh Veluwe...
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>>16998215

That would be the "fine" accuracy, and it acually uses Wifi hotspots as well as ground stations. The "coarse" accuracy uses the GPS network.

Honestly, for being so cocksure and simultaneously entirely incorrect, I think your suicide may be warranted. For the sake of the planet.
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I dont think they were murdered/captured by humans or anything interesting.

They had a camera the entire time. If somebody/something had captured me, I would be trying to take pictures of it. I would at least write a note in the dirt saying "something is after me, if you find this camera you will know I was murdered" and take a picture of it. Even if I could never snag a picture of my captor/murderer, Id be taking pictures of everything around me so police/investigators can get as much data as possible.
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>>16998347

Hold on just a moment, cannibals - damn iPhone autofocus!

You're a fucking moron if you think you would be able to do any of the things you described, when a fucking jungle dweller pounces on you you don't see it coming jackass, you just feel the cold metal or knotted wood and then lights out.
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>>16998347
>rational thought process
>blonde girls

pick one
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>>16991620
well ok lol that changes things, if theres a fucking known tribe of cannibals in the area Its pretty safe to say that anyone who goes missing in those woods is either in the belly of an animal, at the bottom of the river, or cannibal food.
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>>16998382
I didnt say to take a picture while being murdered you fucking contrarian sperg.

They had access to their phone for what, 7 days? Why the fuck didnt they do anything with it? If I was being held against my will AND HAD A FUCKING CAMERA I would try sneaking pictures of my captor or at least take pictures of my current location. They didnt do anything, which makes me think they were not captured by cannibals.
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>>16991390

Few key details of this case I never see posted throw a wrinkle or two into this pat explanation:
-The pair of shorts, found neatly folded on a rock up river, after the spot where they started calling 911/112. I might buy the "hey let's take a dip" angle, but not after they were lost and/or hurt. It's a weird detail.
-The backpack. Both women somehow fall directly into a the river, which supposedly shreds both bodies in two months but the backpack and its contents are in pristine shape, with working phones and camera inside.
-Last seen April 1. After April 5, Kris's phone has the password entered incorrectly multiple times.
-One of the bodies shows phosphorous bleaching, possibly caused by fertilizer used to hasten decomposition.
-I haven't been able to confirm this independently, but supposedly as many as 26 different people have disappeared in this area.
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>but supposedly as many as 26 different people have disappeared in this area.
thats pretty creepy if true. maybe some gang is kidnapping hikers because it is already known as dangerous territory and if someone goes missing people will likely just put it down to the person getting killed by a wild animal or injuring themselves/dying in the jungle. Or it could be skinwalkers.
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>>16999189
you can look up any location in the world and find a bunch of disappearances. if it was 26 in 1 year that would be one thing, but just saying "26 in recorded history" is meaningless.
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>>16991390
impressive
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>>16991381
in my country the emergency number is 112, but even if you dial 911 it redirects to 112.
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>>16991367
Literally looked it up on some dutch news websites and the last story was published in December of 2014 as a closing story. The last actual story about these two chicks was in June of 2014, over a year ago. Why do you faggots care about this?
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>>16998382
>jungle dweller

kek
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>>16991481
>>16991390
let's assume moon wasn't visible, why didn't they shelter at night instead of moving and trying to light the way? what was they running from?
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>>16999544
With te stuff found in their bag, I guess they heard something 7 nights in, and started using the flash to try and see what it was. The next night/morning they didnt have time to get the camera out.
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>>16999544
maybe too hot to walk durng the day?
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>>16997064
They are talking about a camera you idiot, not a cellphone, THE LITTLE LIGHT on an iphone is not a FLASH, how dumb and underage can you be yon never have handled a real camera
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Dumb asses probably knew nothing about the area they were venturing into. They probably couldn't build a fire, make a shelter, or identify plants. I've been hiking with minimal supplies for over 10 years and I am still cautious as fuck.
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>>16993559
They had a camera you idiot, not a device, not your moms cell phone, a fucking camera with a flash, have you ever used one? iphones do not have flashes.
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>>16999666
Not the person you're talking to. The little light is a flash, but you're right about everything else.
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They got lost because they didn't understand how vast the forest was. I'm honestly fascinated by the fact that they had nearly zero survival skills or at least survival tools. What did they find in their backpack? Some bikinis and sunglasses? Wtf.

What would be some basic things they could have brought to keep them alive long/survive? Compass, utility knife, map, matches. They must have done this hike spontaneously to get this royally screwed.
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>>16999679
>>16999666
http://www.imore.com/how-use-true-tone-camera-flash-your-iphone

Just for the record.
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>>16991454
" bumped into bandits or cartel people," Refering to that part, you fat idiot.
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>>16999689
We know that you can do this. But it isn't what these girls did.
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>>16991459
>You do know panama is not in those countries you mentioned, right? like, omg so cool you drove all the way there, but you never even ade it to panama.So yeah, another amerifat, ignorant and dumb as the next one.
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>>16991481
>Phone cameras aren't good are doing anything really.
Mmmm. weren´t they using an actual camera for that? It´s cool that the phones did nothing but how was that relevant?
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>>16991972
No laws in those jungles. Government isn't advanced enough to cover the country
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>>16991740
THIS
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>>16999666

holy shit that get
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>>16999684
It´s just an LED, not a flash, a flash needs to be charged everytime or is consumable, it is a lot more powerfull than an LED on their iphones and can actually give you a good shock because of the high voltage, even in those disposable cameras. The shitty light that some girls had on their phones back in 2014 WAS NOT AN ACTUAL FLASH, even if it were somehow, IT WAS NOT USED IN THE PICTURES
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>>16999689
> Apple has recently upped the ante with a new, duel LED flash dubbed True Tone. It's no brighter than previous iPhone flashes
It is just 2 LEDs, wow that makes it a flash somehow
KEK
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>>16999138
Wooooow, so at no point did these dumb bitches realize they were heading north when they should have been heading south? Can't I feel bad for them.
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We can solve this. We have lots of facts, of we need is put them in the right order. The narrative must be able to hold any question or "what if". We must just think logically.
Personnally, I think there are too many weird details (as somone posted earlier >>16999138) for it to not be a fool play. Though it may just be details I interpret as such.
I think the biggest clue it may be fool play is the unpublished photo and the fact families do believe it's more than getting lost in the woods.
I think this pic is what's pushing the parents to believe in the fool play.
Is there any clue about what's on this pic? Any rumor, or anything? Would a Dutch person take contact with the parents to ask about it?
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>>17000525
Poor things, didn't realize the position of the moon and stars had shifted since they left home
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>>16999701
This does not deserve a passing grade. You will need to re-take Greentext 101, Anon.
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>>16999687
IIRC, most of their stuff was in the room they were staying in; suggesting they intended to return quickly.
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>>17000555
And no one told them the Sun rises in the west in the southern hemisphere :^)
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>>16991670
>nothing paranormal

Get the fuck out and stay out
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Thats fucked up, poor women.
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>>17000573
East is to the right of North, yes?
So why is the sun rising on my left?
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>>16993930
the 90 black photos are more insidious . you can never really delete digital data... or so they say. you can copy over the data and that garbles it. you do that a few times it is not retrievable

who ever killed them knew enough to copy over any evidence like pics. some of the pics are probably just the surrounding area but maybe to close to where the killer/s are
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>>16991459
I agree. In some parts of the world, being blonde/european is basically seen an invitation to freely rape them, because people aren't used to seeing blonde european chicks on their own, so "hey, that must mean they're up for anything!" And latinos seem a bit...rapey, to be honest.
Not respecting boundaries is quite common with men from the Americas and Middle East, especially Turkey, I've seen it a lot when working in bars here, almost every one of them gets way too close to girls that haven't even talked to them, like on the dance floor for instance, and they often get furious or even violent when rejected, like they see it as their birth right to get girls whenever they want to.
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>>16999692
All of south america is africa
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>>16991375
>k >e. >k
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>>16992071
/thread
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>>16992917
Just me or does that look like bits of flesh..
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>>17001354
It's just you. Go outside and look at any piece of moss or erosion on the underside of a rock.
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>>17001354
It's not, but it certainly does look like it :^}
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>>16998382
I didn't know regular cameras used iPhone autofocus...
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Lost interest at
>last story in december 2014
fucking neckbeards
also
>>16999666
>>17000555
checked. well done
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>>16999138
>-Last seen April 1. After April 5, Kris's phone has the password entered incorrectly multiple times.
Is it possible the still living girl tried to gain access to the deceased girls phone?
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>>16991620

>"cannibal instincts"

It's not instincts, it is cultural.

Good news though, most cannibal tribes in the world are wiped out. There is a protein in the brain that is toxic and kills when the brain is eaten. So if they did it, those Dutch girls made them one step closer to dying out.
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>>16992059
Flashlight batteries don't last for ever.
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>>16996248
They must of had very tiny dicks since those are a inch long and on a twig.
Condoms in Panama sure look like red pieces of plastic. And aren't tube shaped at all.
Also the criminals sure had nothing better to do than take their camera they'd never used before and most likely didn't know how to work to take a picture of them.

It most certainly isn't stray plastic pieces of a trail marker they took a photo of. Like in some kind of celebration of a sign they thought they were close to being back on the trail. No that would be silly.
>sarcasm
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>>16991375
>not understanding other countries have their own 3 digit emergency call number similar to '911'
>not understanding '911' is actually universal
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>>16997085
The photos are probably of their daughters last hours of their life that add nothing to the case. Enjoying a jungle, looking at a camera scared. No family is going to release something so private and personal for the world to gawk at.
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>>17001484
This. Nobody takes anything into consideration from multiple points of view anymore. Not everything is conspiratorial. I miss when /x/ could actually think.
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>>17000617
Or... It was really really dark out in a dense tropical jungle in the dead of night, that in the middle of the day is shaded from all the trees. Gasp!
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>>17001491
You use logic? Pff, weirdo.

I'm the person you responded to, thanks.
It's unusual to find another person who thinks logically on here, I'll wave at you as we pass by.
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>>16996248
ok whatever you say virginoid
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>>16997085
because its most likely nobodies business. and theres no mystery really at all..
what happened to them is probably what happened to everyone that has gotten lost in a giant ass jungle. fucking swamp monsters man
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>>17001491
>I miss when people actually believed my lies
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>>17000634
nope dummy, men in their core are supposed to aggressively chase woman,its in our nature but just suppressed by white society.
woman who are attacked don't have to cry for the government every time it happens because honestly the government can't detect and jail every single rapist, its simply stupid and native to rely on the police/government to protect you but then again im talking about white people here
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>>17001714
>I don't have an argument, but you're wrong

There is a significantly greater number of people on /x/ now that do not think, and posting habits will show this. This is because oldfags moved out, and newfags (mostly teens from other parts of the internet) came here for conspiracy theories or because of the creepypasta craze. Anyone who was here prior to 2012 will tell you that it was never as bad as it is now in regards to people not being able to use logic with what we investigate. Idiots on this board like you love to parrot the meme that /x/ is a paranoid dumping ground and that "/x/ was always full of retards", when they actually have no idea of anything regarding the history of the board whatsoever.
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my fucking dog just farted beside me, smells like shit.
should i let him outside?
and they died from jungle exposure. wether it be wild animals, hunger, dehydration, etc.
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>>17001741
Someone sure is mad
I take it people don't usually bother to call you out, do they, liar
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>>17001753
Good argument
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>>17001742
Kill the dog and get a cat. Also yes I agree it's highly unlikely they were murdered miles into a dense forrest. Their body parts were scattered and clothes were torn. Sounds like they just got eaten by something bigger than them, which makes this whole story not paranormal in the slightest.
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Why has no one mentioned that Lisannes foot was found, inside her shoe?

Some serious shit happened to these girls
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>>17001808
>Some serious shit happened to these girls

Yes, decomposition and animal meddling.
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>>17001808
id think it'd be more suspicious if her foot was found without her shoe.
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>>17001808
your giving me gas.
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>>16999138
Didn't know about the phone. I had heard about possible fert, though that's interesting that some one else has.
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>>17001484
Then why is the familly telling there is fool play? There must be a clue on these pics. If they were on their own, it would clear all doubt. And yet the families tell there is foul play.
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>>17002058
Because they're grieving families who don't want to accept an accident as the killer of their loved ones. This is a common reaction. If they had some indication they found on a photo, they would have made THAT and THAT specifically known.
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>>17002058
is only the family of one of hte girls, the other family believes the official investigation version: they got lost, died from a fall or some wild animal attack, the remais got moved and decomposed by the rain water and animals.
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>>17001419
thats def a possibility.
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>>16991367
OP, this forced /x case is really shitty.
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>>17001808
>Lisannes foot was found, inside her shoe?
I think this is common when an animal attacks a human, they get the easy meat and since the shoe is protecting the foot, the animal just fucks off because its too much bother.
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iam from panama actually
can confirm only the boots appear
and yes the 911 IS the number for emergency here
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>>17002454
>iam from panama actually

I'm so sorry.
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ITT: Pointless sexism.
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>>16991459
>former resident of Guatemala
Place is shit yo.
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>>17003001
They must have had it coming because one time a girl I liked didn't fuck me and I can't take rejection so all women are worthless whores.

-4chan
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>>17003041
>>17003001
Tits or gtfo.
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>>16991367
calling 911 from Panama, seriously => they deserved what they got for their stupidity.
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>>17003438
911 is the emergency services number in Panama, dumbass
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>>17003438
Someone panicked and tried to reach for help the way they remember in their panic.
Yes I guess you are right. Helpless people deserve to be mauled to death

More news at 8 on 'Good Morning Edge'
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>>17003001
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>>16995865
Probably tits.
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>>16999138
>Location jeans shorts girl 1
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