>people who emulate

> People who've only played the small percentage of games they can afford to own

>>3096591
>People who care about other people emulating or not

There's nothing wrong with emulation.

People want to play games as opposed to the collector aspect and that's fine.

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> people who bought one flashcart and suddenly feel they are superior to the rest of the wrold

>paying 2016 prices to "collect" video game cartridges
You are actually a retard if you do this

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>failing this bait

>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
>Also it's hard to get hold of the original hardware.
>The batteries in carts ran dry long ago
>Thank fuck abandonedware websites exist otherwise allot retro games would died with redundant hardware
>weather your hardcore neck beard collector or the average broke gamer haveing access to the games you want to play is essential.

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I bought a Retro Trio and I won't buy flashcarts. I will buy actual games.

My famicom is a famiclone.

>>3096683

>batteries in carts ran dry long ago

you don't need to lie when there are valid points to emulation. however, this isn't one of them.

>>3096591
Youre the same person who when someone grabs an image off of google quickly and posts it. You come in and say something autistic like "HURRR FITLERS!!"

>>3096597

This. Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy. These are the people paying multiple times what the game was sold for when it was released for 20+ year old cartridges. These are the people paying 50 bucks for a fucking box, not a game, just the game's box. They have big shelves filled to the brim with old games they paid way too much for, that sit there all pretty and alphabetised, gathering dust. Now, I'm sorry if you're the kind of collector who actually does play the games you buy, and isn't just doing it out of some uncontrollable OCD-like habit. But just look at this board, as a microcosm of the retro gaming commmunity, and see how the collectors behave. We have many threads with people actually talking about games, obviously participated in by people who play games with some frequency. And then we have the portion of threads made by and for the 'collector' types. There's rarely any discussion about the games or how they play, it's always them with pictures of boxes, or it's them with pictures of their CRTs, or possibly them bemoaning the skyrocketing prices that THEY caused in the first place.

And I wouldn't even give a shit if so many of them weren't such fucking elitists. But they are, and their threads are always cluttering up the catalog here with their boring shit that's more about retro nostalgia than it is about actual video games.

>>3096718
Not him, but as someone who's replaced many a Genesis battery in my day but now emulates, I'm happy to not have to deal with that bullshit anymore.

The only loss is not finding hidden saves, but that's just one of those little collecting things. I delete them anyways.

>>3096709
I hope you already have everything worth playing, because even common games are starting to cost an arm and a leg

>Thread that tries to bait consolefags: is dead on arrival
>Thread that tries to bait emulatards; they bite it hook, line, & sinker

Congrats, guys. You live up to your reputation.

>>3096724
I have a friend like this. Not the elitist part, just the OCD collector part. His gaming room is just wall to wall shelves lines with games he mostly hasn't played. He wants to own every NA released JRPG, but never has time for any of them.

And it doesn't stop at retro. It just keeps going, and now with Steam he has thousands of games he touches maybe 5% of.

>>3096734
Meh, there's nothing else going on.

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>>3096736

>>3096734
I don't know. I feel like the sensible having not paid $40 for Contra.

>>3096597
playing emulators kind of sucks though. i see why it's useful, and why people do it, but it's just not as good.

>>3096724
I buy physical copies of retro games that I know I'll put a lot of time into, because games usually look and play better on their original hardware.

I don't understand the hoarding mindset either. Very few games are even worth playing in the first place, let alone owning.

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>>3096765
How do you think it sucks? So long as the emulator isn't laggy, I think it's just as good if not better. Partly I don't like CRT screens, so I'd rather see the games on another display. And also it's great to take games on the go with you as well.

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>>3096591
>not owning a physical copy of your favorite games
>not having a push button giant home theatre video game entertainment center
>not having your pc hooked up as well to it
>not emulating your favorite games with rom hacks and extending their experience
>not playing phantasy star 4 in hell mode with standard exp

>>3096782
i have a lot of experience playing games on their original hardware in addition to emulator, and the emulated version rarely feels as good to play as it does on a real console. it's hard to explain, but there are subtle inaccuracies in controls and physics among other things like the graphics looking fake and shitty and input lag, which nearly all emulators have no matter what you're playing them on.

source: i speedrun games and primarily use original hardware, but spend a decent amount of time playing and testing things with emulators.

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>>3096801
>i have a lot of experience playing games on their original hardware in addition to emulator,

Me too.

>and the emulated version rarely feels as good to play as it does on a real console.

I don't experience this though. Like I say, I think it feels just as good. Maybe it's that I'm old and too slow to notice the difference, or maybe it's there but so subtle I don't care. To each their own though, if you prefer hardware then rock on.

>>3096604
A Krtko Pepe? Holy crap that is one _rare_ pepe.

>>3096591
>>>/v/

And miss playing Little Samson? No thanks.

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>>3096591
>>Mfw

>>3096801
I dunno, the only emulation I can't stand is DS since dual screens and touch controls really don't work that well with a single monitor and a mouse, though the former can be alleviated with a dual screen setup.

Most importantly, though, many emulators have a turbo function and I greatly appreciate that.

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Had a guy in my local game store emulating on his psp near me. I came close to vomiting.

>>3096724
THey suck at the games too

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>>3097190

>>3096591
>people who make meme arrow threads.

>people who buy their games from ebay.

>>3097190
you should have. it's 2016, psp's a piece of shit for emulation of most systems.

>>3096724
Listen here, fucknugget. I don't give a SHIT about how you play your LE RETRO fucking games. Maybe you played an NES once when you were 10 because your hipster shit big brother brought one home from the epic flea market before he flipped it to buy a new scarf after watching an episode of Pawn Stars and now you think it is cool to like old shit because JonTron told you to do it, but you'll NEVER be accepted among those who actually played this shit YEARS ago and aren't fad-following YouTube kiddies just waiting for your next big find because let's face it, the seond you get your OMG LITTLE HAMPTON you'll be taking fucking pictures of your EPIC HAUL to plaster all over your Facebook group because you are so desperate to fit in. Your Alienware machine running ZSNES with that awful fucking smoothing filter doesn't have shit on anything, got that? Maybe it will hold you over, but don't pretend like you aren't desperate for the real deal so you can start your fucking YouTube collecting channel like Pete fucking Dorr.

I just don't fucking care.

>>3097180
Nintendo DS games look BEAUTIFUL on CRTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliRmeKx6AQ

>>3096931
It's Krtko Spurdo.

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>>3097384

>>3096592
Yep, these threads are made by people in the used vidya business.

LOL spending inordinate amounts of money on used vidya...

>>3097112
it's not a good game anyway

>>3096591
>static gifs

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>>3096591

>>3096592
> People who've only played the small percentage of games they can afford to own
i can afford to buy as many games as i want, but i don't see a reason to either own or emulate fuckloads of games when almost none of them are good.

very few video games are worth playing.

>>3096591
>posting GIFs that are static

>>3098938
Which ones do you think are worth playing?

>>3099120
Aleste Gaiden.

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>people who post /v/ shit on /vr/

>>3099123
Alas that's pretty gay den.

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>>3098938
>>3099123
>I don't always buy extremely obscure expensive shmups for Japanese computers
>But when I do, I don't play test them first

Could some janitor/mod explain what this thread contributes to the board and why it should be kept here?

>>3097190
upvoted

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>>3096683
>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
No it isn't
>Also it's hard to get hold of the original hardware.
With the Internet, it's easier than ever before to get the original hardware
>The batteries in carts ran dry long ago
No, I have several games from before I was even alive that have their batteries in working condition
>Thank fuck abandonedware websites exist otherwise allot retro games would died with redundant hardware
If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway. b-but muh Genesis/TG-16/sonytrash

It's irrelevent to gamings real history. Nintendo is the only company allowed to make or host video games.
>weather your hardcore neck beard collector or the average broke gamer haveing access to the games you want to play is essential.
Holy shit, gameboy games are expensive! WahhH!

>>3096724
You don't deserve to play the games if they're not being played on the actual hardware with a real cart. End of story.

>B-but I'm too poor!
if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

>b-but resellers!

They're scum and need to be stopped at all costs, yes. However, get the fuck over it.

>>3096853
do you live in a dumpster!

>>3097384
>>3101105

Wow you are fucking autistic. You need to execute yourselves stat.

>>3101097
>No it isn't, and here are all the reasons why
>Oh

>>3101105
>You don't deserve to play the games if they're not being played on actual hardware

Do you not understand how emulators work? They're playing the original rom with an emulated system. It's essentially the same experience, game wise. I do agree that it's nice to have the consoles though.

Also, lose the attitude. You're being a dick for no reason, both of you.

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>>3101105
>if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

Geeze, that's harsh. I agree that the experience is way better with the hardware. It sucks playing a game designed for a console on a keyboard. Even if you've got a controller hookup, it still doesn't feel the same.

But how far are you going to go to achieve authenticity? I mean, if you emulate NES games, do you need a CRT tv? Do you need a CRT tv that was made before the mid-90s?

And, honestly, when I was a student I couldn't afford the games. I shouldn't have been playing them because I should've been studying, but not because I couldn't afford the real deal. Once I got the money, I started to buy them.

In matters like this, authenticity is overrated but not valueless.

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>>3101097
> I have several games from before I was even alive
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway.


Thanks anti-emulation kiddie, this just made my day.

>>3101105
>if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

The entire point of copyright law is to compensate people for their efforts, clearly irrelevant here. What did you think it was for, to just punish poor people for being poor?

>>3101105
>>3101097
>>3097384
Millennials everyone. How the hell did they get so damn entitled and narcassistic? They expect everyone to do the exact same thing they do and if they don't they're a piece of shit.

Worst generation i've ever seen

>>3102272
Hooboy, Gen X getting their jimmies rustled.
>people different than me are the worst, everyone born from 1988 till 1999 are the same person.

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>>3102270
>>3102270
Half the reason I emulate now is that paying for used physical copies doesn't support the original developers in any way.

The flip side is when games are given a digital re-release I will often buy them if I like the game just to support it. Sega 3DS classics are a perfect example of the kind of work I like to support.

>>3102281
Dollars to doughnuts he's technically a millenial himself.

>>3096591
>he shitposts on /vr/
Please, kill yourself.

>>3102307
>he shitposts
>kill yourself

You're not even trying to be ironic are you?

>>3102289
>>3102281

You've sperged out plenty already in this thread samefag. I'm just laughing at you at this point

>>3096591
stay mad
stay jelly

he so jelly
he got no games

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>>3096591
>people who pay for roms

>>3102343
But anon, all games are rom--oh

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>>3102314
>Hahohuehehaho ha

>>3096591
>people who are weeb faggots obsessed with ugly gooks

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>people who buy mods of games on carts

>>3102872
Please ignore the intentional troll, DO NOT FEED.
Do not take the bait.

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>>3102882
Ah, so you are justifying this?

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>people who weren't born at the right time to experience retro vidya in its heyday
>people who weren't idorts back in the day and got every game they wanted
>people who got into classics for the first time through emulation
>people who don't know the little joys of maidenhood

ITT:

Snobbery

>>3096607
Ok, reported you.

>>3099268
It's called bait and it is good for clicks.

Every time this same thread dies it is instantly created so like most of the horse shit on 4chan one can conclude that it is a mod who makes these identical bait threads.

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>>3096591
>buying abandonware
Good goy.

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>>3103381

>I was born in the year 2000 so everyone else must have too and it's impossible for people to have bought older systems and games back when they were new

>>3103392
>Everyone bought every game they ever wanted to play when it was new

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>>3103397

You got exposed, kiddo. Go back to your emulation.

>>3103392
>he hoards games

Have fun when you lose them all in a natural disaster or when some niggers decide to come loot your home.

>>3103434
>commit felonies
>to take video games

good one

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>>3103434

Your jelly, it feeds me

>tfw I have a lot of great games from my childhood that now go for hundreds of dollars and are hard to find
>tfw kids on 4chan get salty because their only option is input lagletion

Feels fucking good can't lie

>>3103443
It happened to me, it's how I lost my saturn.

>>3103454
Why should I be jelly? I have every game at my disposal due to emulation. :)

I think you're the jealous one because you're too stupid to figure out how to run an emulator.

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>>3103462
>:)

Mad as all fuck.

And yes, yes you're jelly. You wish you could experience the real thing but can't!

I emulate sometimes, just to laugh at how fake it feels and imagine how a lot of kiddies think it's even remotely close to the real thing.

>>3098938
Bullshit: the Post

I can guarantee two things:
- You can't afford NP Sutte Hakkun or KoF2k
- You'll respond "they're not good games anyway :^)"

>>3096724
>Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy.

What objective metric or proven study are you basing that on?

>>3103493
None, just like damn near every post on here

>>3103497
Touché.

>>3096591
Feels good to play everything for free. Expecting me to buy from re seller scum for OP prices.

>>3103621
>Complaining about resellers
>Not garage sale hunting

Like, I agree, but come on, now.

>>3103635
The age of finding pearls before swine at a garage sale is over. Many people can just research the eBay value and mark thier sale accordlingly.

>>3103641
And you can still haggle, you just have to be logical and appeal to them. For example;

>It's old, vintage means valuable
>"I don't see vinyl or cassette being treated this way, how is this any different?"

Just as an example.

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>>3096591
People that post pictures of Asian women.

You have a loli body pillow on your futon and little dolls on your shelves don't you...

>>3103667
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Hide the thread, if you don't like it.

>>3103672
As much as an Asian gurls pic with a 1 line shitpost not even mentioning classic games? Shove a zapper up your urethra faggot.

There now it's vr related :)

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>>3103681
What part of "hide the thread" don't you understand? Shitposting only leads to more shitposting. You're proving that right now, actually.

Take your salt elsewhere, preferably somewhere where someone will smack some sense into you.

>:)

I'm sure you feel really cool right now. Good for you.

>>3103691
>Don't post on mah internet.
>don't make fun of my waifu
>somebody should beat you up
This guy.

Emulating is fine, not everyone has access, funds, or maybe even a want for old electronics. This entire board should be about the appreciation of gaming's yesteryear instead we have shithead elitists trying to act superior because they have a piece of plastic or cardboard.

Leave and never come back pillowfucker.

>>3103691
The thread is against the rules of the board, thus it should not be here.

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>>3103710
I'm not telling you to not post, I'm telling you that you should post productively (translation: not shitposting). Nice sidestep.

I just find your knee-jerk reaction to a trivial image posted on the internet extremely pathetic. Don't you have any level of constitution?

And where did I say that emulating wasn't fine? Lose the 'tude.

>>3103716
How so? It's a thread about how this one person doesn't believe in emulating. Sure, it's bait-y as fuck, but it's still a legitimate debate.

Do people think it gives them additional smugness when they attach a reaction image (or heck even a completely irrelevant image) to every argument they make?

>>3103729
THAT'S IT CAPS ON, PANTS OFF LET'S DO THIS!!!!

do you take this shit seriously? Does your pillow?

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>>3103737
>do you take this shit seriously?

I found the problem.

>>>/b/

>>3097384
Control your autism you retarded faggot.

>>3096724
I'm a hoarder and collector, I've beaten:
NES:
Ninja Gaiden 3
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 3
Megaman
Megaman 2
Megaman 3
Little Samson
Dragon Warrior 3
Castlevania 3

SNES:
Act raiser
Aero fighters
Castlevania 4
Castlevania Dracula X
Chrono Trigger
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Donkey Kong Country 3
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Megaman 7
Megaman X
Megaman X2
Megaman X3
Super Ghouls N Ghosts
Super Mario World
Super Mario RPG
Super Metroid


When will the "collectors don't play their Gaems" meme ever end? you're just buttmad you didn't get the games for cheap back in the early 2000s.

>>3103736
well this is an image board...
what else are we supposed to do?

>>3104034
Dude you have barely beaten games.

If you can list all the games you have beaten you simply have not played enough games. I have beaten hundreds if not thousands of games during my lifetime while you have been hoarding your room with boxes.

>>3104034
>has not even beaten 100 games

Thanks for proving the meme right.

>>3101097
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway. b-but muh Genesis/TG-16/sonytrash

I remember when trolling meant something.

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>>3101097
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway.

>>3104043
>I have beaten hundreds if not thousands of games
>thousands

If you combine all of the licensed NES and SNES games, including all languages, you come up to 1,400. Your memory may be a little broken.

>>3104045
>>3104043
I only mentioned on NES and SNES, I have beaten hundreds of games outside of those.

>>3104043
List every NES and SNES game you've beaten from start to finish. NO emulators, No easy difficulty bullshit, just picking up the game and getting to the end screen.

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>118 replies

learn to sage and report you dumbasses

>>3104363
>No emulators
Do emulated games not count as games anymore?

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>>3097384
>hating on zsnes filters

Eat shit nigger 25% scanlines with interpolation is god tier.

>>3104040
Not be a smug faggot about vidya?

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>>3104459

No, they only count if you pay 200 bucks for the cartridge and another 50 for the box (sold seperately). You might think you've "beaten" a game by emulating it, but you haven't really. Sure, you might have memorised the levels, honed your skills and pushed through to the end of the game. But the REAL challenge is in being willing to spend large chunks of your disposable income on 20+ year old games, paying mutliple times what hey were worth when they were released and getting all of the packaging intact too (this part is super important). Anyone can beat a game. It takes a true retro veteran like myself to squander inordinate amounts of cash on ancient plastic cartridges that aren't worth a fraction of what they're being sold for on ebay. Get a real job, you fucking kids. Maybe one day you'll be able to TRULY beat your favourite NES games, just like I did!

>>3103485
It's not that everybody can't afford these weeb games, but rather that they are likely to be terrible investments.

Many people see no virtue in owning some hunk of plastic in the Information Age.

If you want to collect valuable objects as an investment, vidya is not what you collect. Coins, stamps, guns, artwork, cars, retro-computers. Not vidya.

>>3104638
You're right collecting vidya is a totally different thing in the sphere of collecting. Peoples' motivations to collect those other things are completely different. Retro games are guaranteed to fade into obscurity where they will be forgotten and replaced by contemporary games which are objectively better than their progenitors.

Arcade games probably benefit most from emulation. The time, money and space required to find and collect actual machines is way too much for many people.

>>3104638
>retro-computers
>not hunks of plastic

>>3103485
>KoF2k
It's on dreamcast, ps2, steam and shitloads of collections.

>>3104686

This. The merits of console emulation can be debated, but MAME is essential software for any serious gamer IMO.

I still don't know if that is a girl or a guy in OPs picture

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>>3096591
>he doesn't emulate old computer games on his free as in freedom Linux system

Fuck off with your shit bait, OP.

>>3104459
They aren't 100% the same, so they may as well be another game entirely. Also, Speedruns only count if they're played on original hardware, via the original cartridges/discs, do you not think there's a reason for that?

>>3104787
This.

Also, Wine Is Not an Emulator.

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look my collection

>contributing to the retro price bubble.

>>3096597
this, no one cares how rich you are

>>3105597
Is Goof Troop only good for co-op?

>>3096724
Yeah, this pisses me off to no end. I have a friend with wall to wall shelves of retro games that he never plays. He'll go to a movie rental place that's closing down and buy EVERY game with one swipe of his credit card.

I'll discover an old game and tell him to come by and play it with me, and he'll never fucking come by. To this day, no one has EVER played Streets of Rage 2 with me, partially because of this motherfucker (I know, I'm late to the party, but I want to fucking play that game with somebody). I'll get Duck Tales: Remastered on Steam and tell him to play it in my shared library, and he'll say he can only possibly play it on a Wii because the original Duck Tales was released on a Nintendo console. And guess what, he won't play the original one, either, because he can't be bothered to take it off his shelf and play the goddamn thing.

He'll give the old, "Now that I'm an adult I'm soooo busy, I don't have time to play retro games, now watch me put 5,000 hours into Skyrim (or whatever)" deal whenever you start asking him about individual games.

>>3108220
what an absolute faggot. I have never met someone this retarded. Why do you even bother with him? He's the kind of guy who collects LEGO, but refuses to remove any from the box, yet never plans to do anything with the collection like show it off or sell it, so he only refuses to remove them because "muh value".

>>3097435
I never knew I wanted this

>>3103672
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>>3097384
>I just don't fucking care.

It shows.

You're right, OP. Hacked console + burned games is the true master race.

>>3096591
>.gif doesn't play on April Fool's format
Oh I'm laffin. I'd hate to see how /f/ or /gif/ is doing

i was reading some old forum thread about someone finding a bio force ape proto (turned out to be a hoax) in 2005 and it was crazy to see how many people absolutely hated emulation and rom dumping. someone wanted to buy the proto from op and dump it, but was shot down by people who said theyd rather op just posted screenshots because they didnt want the cart to decrease in value even though it meant no one else could ever play the game. crazy times.

>>3096591
hey anon please be kind to give me a million dollars so i could buy all games i want to play before i die okay thanks bye, also check your high class privileges :^)

>>3108581
Retrogaming Roundtable, right? That's what originated the DUR BUTTER/EAT COMMUNISM meme. Funny to think that a few years later the game would actually be dumped, the mystery would die, and BRA would become just another ROM floating around on the internet.

>>3108591
Fuck, BFA/Bio Force Ape.

>>3108591
yeah. i mean lost games are cool but im glad it was found and dumped to bring closure to the mystery. its not that good tho, i played it for a little bit

>>3096591
I like to preserve my console and games and i love emulator and i love settings them

>>3097384
Retro identity politics is one of the most perplexing things in this board

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Am I really the only one

Judging from this thread alone it seems like a it's a polarizing issue.

>>3108581
People are fucking thick sometimes. They're so deep inside their subculture they don't realize how ridiculous they sound.

I only care about games, not hardware. Sold all my stuff long ago and like the convenience and possibilities of emulation

>>3096724
>Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy.

I don't get this argument. Am I supposed to play four games on four different TV's at once everyday? I've owned my games for 25 years, I've played them all at some point. Is this criticism used against people who collect records or listen to music? People who emulate only play a fraction of the games they've DL'd too by that logic. And there's nothing wrong with that.

>>3105339
Most emulators for 4th gen and prior are cycle-perfect, they are literally identical to original hardware

>>3104070
>NES and SNES are the only consoles in existence

I own real hardware, carts, as well as flash carts but also emulate and I can tell you that emulation can be trash or it can be pretty much as good as the real deal, it all depends on the particular emulator, controller, and display you're using. Emulating on a CRT can be fantastic, for certain systems like NES, there is virtually no difference compared to original hardware (I've tried both one right after the other ) After all, flash carts are best way to enjoy games, you get access to pretty much an entire library, and play it on the real deal. Unless you care about owning pieces of plastic with prices inflated by OCD collectors, re-sellers, hipsters, or people who don't know that emulation or flash carts even exist.

>>3110141
Not the original hardware= not the real game. End of story. Come back and let me know when Guinness validates a world record speedrun via emulator, then we'll talk again.

>>3110683
If only you realized how dumb you sound. That's like saying because you didn't watch a movie on film through a projector that you haven't watched the "real" movie

>>3110710
Video games and movies are two entirely separate things, that's a completely unfair comparison.

>>3110719
No they aren't. Both can be copied digitally and shared online like anything else.

>>3108581
>they didnt want the cart to decrease in value

Either they were hoarding the game themselves and were afraid their precious game would be worthless or they are straight up retarded idiots.

>>3096724

I like this post. I REALLY like this post. It pissed off so many nerds, in all the funny ways.

I mean come the fuck on guys, getting mad because someone didn't pay 80 bucks to play a game on the original console when even the original programmers don't give a shit anymore? This is why you guys have your own article at yourscenesucks. This is why people write blogs laughing at you.

>>3096724
>tfw decided to work through my backlog in its entirety

100 games in just under 2 years. I have a long way to go, considering I'm pushing 700 at this point. Granted, some of them like the Megaman's I can pretty much fire through the entire series in a day or two.

So much people parroting that shit of "emulated games are inferior because differences", but no one is able to provide any specifics other than "feels wrong" or "input lag". I played all the games I own physically in both the real hardware and emulators, never noticed any of that. The fabled input lag is so small that you have to be intentionally looking for it to find it, the games look and sound exactly the same, at least in 8-16bit systems. So, anyone gonna prove why emulators are oh so bad? The only comparisons I've seen were clearly rigged with "wrong" results my computer can't reproduce with any modern emulator I tried.

I live in what amounts to a cliff near the sea, which isn't great for electronics, so most stuff has to remain boxed. And the last thing I want to do when I come home and want to play a game is spending 10 minutes wiring shit to a TV. Meanwhile, to emulate I just double click a file, and it's running even better than my crappy PAL originals. No slow-ass music or running at the speed of growing grass anymore. No butchered translations of the already butchered English translations either. I might get rid of it all whenever I move to another apartment, I have the ROMs so I am not really going to miss them.

This rings true specially for someone born in a shitty euro country where games were slowed down, had higher prices and shit, when they were released at all. Sure, we got Terranigma and Alien Soldier, but who cares if they have moronic translations or run at the speed of a snail? Emulation fixes that. It was also the only way to see stuff like Mario RPG, Earthbound or Chrono Trigger back when importing was not a thing a kid could do easily. I was lucky to have a friend that somehow managed to get those cool games and allowed me to borrow them, but for every other enthusiast, emulation was the only way and I can't help but sympathize with that.

>>3104638
>retro computers
>in the information age

>>3110959
You can't develop muscle memory for a movie. what you just said is like saying cats and dogs are the same; "well they both have fur and are kept as pets, so they're the exact same thing". Get real, emulating and playing a real copy on original hardware just isn't the same thing, which is why I would categorize beating one or the other as two separate achievements.

>>3112457
Yeah keep repeating that and maybe it'll become true one day. So, what's the big difference, champ? Got anything you want us to buy?

>>3113015
I have some rare copies of Super Mario World for sale, 40 bucks a cartridge. Best deal in town ,Goyim.

>>3112457
>You can't develop muscle memory for a movie.

Muscle memory doesn't exist

>>3113974
Okay we all know you're retarded, no need to be a flaming faggot about it.

>>3096724
So, am I to get rid of my childhood games to avoid 'collector' status? Some of them haven't been replayed for about 5 years.... is that somehow 'problematic'?

>>3113974
Literally anybody who plays a competitive game will disagree with you.

Starcraft pros hardly think for half the match. They just do.

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>>3114503
Also anyone who's ever practiced a sport or almost anything physical.

>>3114502
Did you not even bother reading his whole post?

> I wouldn't even give a shit if so many of them weren't such fucking elitists.

No one cares so long as you don't act like an elitist asshole.

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>>3096591
>people that spend any money whatsoever on chilldren's playthings
>people that spend top dollar on (used) children's playthings
>people that buy games in-box and never play them

>>3096591
That is one ugly bitch, OP.

>>3113974

Tell that to the military

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>>3096591

>Go to local game store
>Earthbound
>$500

>>3115681

Wanna buy mine for $450?

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>>3115681
>Go to local game store
>SMB1 & Duck Hunt
>$20.99
>Shit stained Sega Genesis model 2
>$80.99
>PS1 with no controllers or cables
>$69.69
>mfw no one buys anything
>mfw they still never lower their prices

>>3096591
people who cant grow up and play on something that isnt the original REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3114780
>>3114503
>>3114495

Muscles don't have memory. Its really called "motor control"

"Muscle memory has been used synonymously with motor learning, which is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition."

>>3116003
Yes muscles do have memory... It's analogous to ram in a computer, with the brain being the "hard disk".

>>3116003
Are you genuinely too stupid to know what the word "synonymously" means?

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>tfw you emulate because you lost all of your retro vidya things in a house fire

>tfw too poor to actually get any significant part of it back

>>3116028
Are you a dense fucking faggot? I didn't mean the actual term

>>3101105
>>3101097
>>3097384
You don't get the point about emulation, do you?

>>3096726
This. I both have a collection of older games and emulate stuff I don't care to collect, but fuck I hate replacing batteries. I've done it but it always turns into a pain in the ass for one reason or another.

>>3116049
So... Is that a yes, then?

You're so fucking retarded you even prove yourself wrong. Christ, you're a failure.

>>3116091
Holy shit you are fucking stupid. Keep getting your facts off reddit and thinking you're smug and hot shit tho, you millennial cock sucker

>>3111130
>#Bloglife

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>people who emulate

>>3096591
My ROMs will be working 10000 years from now. Git rekt, m8.

>>3116279
>people who like ugly man-faced weeb women

>>3096801
There is no input lag when using a keyboard in any of the emulators I use.

>>3116308
Same here both with keyboard and with a PS3 pad. Those people are full of shit.

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>>3116279
>caring

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>>3116380

>>3116305
that word doesn't mean what you think it does

>>3116279
i like what you did there

>>3116279
I just got it. Ha.

>>3108220
>I'll get Duck Tales: Remastered on Steam and tell him to play it in my shared library, and he'll say he can only possibly play it on a Wii because the original Duck Tales was released on a Nintendo console.
That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard this week.

>>3097384
Is this copypasta?

>>3115681
I remember when Earthbound was $50 at Gamestop.

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>>3096743

>>3116681
>>3116669

Thank you.

>>3104604

>Playstation section
>So many Greatest Hits releases

Look at this man.
Look at this man and laugh :^)

>>3117716
I don't get it : /

>>3108691
Yeah, sad thing.

>>3116778
It is now.

I just don't understand, if you care so much about you hobby, why don't you buy an xrgb mini, get your 2600, colecovision and intellivision modded, then play your games that way?

Honestly, it's much better than emulation will EVER get you. The only people deep in emulation, I feel, are young people that never experienced owning or playing any of the consoles when they were around, so they couldn't give a shit about accuracy and nostalgia.

But these type of people, I feel, are disrespectful and detrimental to the medium. It doesn't feel like they car when they emulate. Everything is free for them, everything is whimsically at their fingertips, and they end up barely touching the stuff that's available to them. They don't nearly seem as invested, and if they don't intend on dishing hundreds of dollars on physical original items they've EMULATED, then they just simply don't care enough to begin with, so they might as well abandon the hobby.

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I've been playing emulated games on windows since 1998 (with friends) but got my fist computer until 2003. Being a Mexipoor, it was the only way to play Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid, back in the days nobody had those games. And let's not talk about sega (I owned a snes and a genesis) literally nobody had or liked sega back then, just a couple of weirdos, cartridges were scarse because of poor distribution, we only managed to play a handful of titles acquired via flea markets. Nowadays, Snes is still quite popular in my city and normies are paying lots of cash for cartridges and "restored" (re-printed stickers and boxes). I can't believe a snes cart is worth more than an xbox or playstation disc. Dat overrated conker game on the N64 too.
But enought bullshit, I still emulate on pc or psp. My crazy ex girlfriend stole my super nintendo with at least a dozen decent games...

A few days ago, I discovered Z X Spectrum emulation and oh boy, I've been having so much fun. See? I didn't have to invest money to buy an 80's computer and ancient stuff.

I have a friend who was into hoarding old games and consoles a few years ago, and he only played fucking xbox, good thing he sold almost everything, it's better than carts getting dust.

I'd kill for an original Neo Geo cabinet tho.

>>3119541
So you are only allowed to play video games if you are hardcore "gamer" hobbyist? What a load of shit.

>>3119541
Post-purchase rationalization.

I still have my old hardware and would rather emulate the games I still have hard copies of. I hope this is bait.

The only system I still bother with hard copies is n64,and only due to how much of a mess the emulation for it is.

>>3119917
This is me exactly except replace N64 with Saturn.

>>3119920
I never tried emulating the saturn. How bad is it?

>>3119541

>I'm so autistic I can't comprehend people being even slightly less autistic than me: the post

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>>3101097
>>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
>No it isn't

>>3119932
I've never tried either, I've just heard it's really bad so the Saturn is one of the systems I've kept around.

>>3096724
Meh. I collect games but don't hoard. I have an interest in the technology more than anything so emulation would be pretty pointless. Eventually I plan on selling my SNES as most of the games I have I have played and a lot of the "iconic" games are overpriced. I plan on only having a few consoles/computers and only a limited amount of games.

Hoarders seem to pretty much hold onto games for 5 years or so and then sell them at exorbitant prices to discourage anyone wanting them.

>>3116034
I'd say you honestly have a reason. I've always enjoyed my SNES. I'd be very heartbroken if it was destroyed.

>>3096683
>being too much of a moron to be able to replace a battery

Sorry but you can build a bar top hyperspin machine for under $1500 and have it play everything from Atari 2600 to Nintendo Wii. It will also take up less room than 100 PS2 games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCz3sEhh9Q&nohtml5=False

>>3120037
I still think Wii emulation is too high for these kinds of projects. Set the bar at dreamcast and it would cost a few hundred bucks less. What 5th/6th gen games would you want to play with arcade controls anyway?

>>3119917
>I still have my old hardware and would rather emulate the games I still have hard copies of.

but do you have an xrgb mini or pms crystalio 2? i've compared between emulation and playing on these machines. they both feel far better than emulation ever could. they look better as well. or do you even have a bvm or hd crt the way the games were intended to be played? even those two options trump everything as it stands.

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>emulatorfags

Enjoying your shitty input lag and stupid filters that simply try to recreate the look of a CRT?

Now excuse me while I play some flawless lag free gameplay of one of my favourite platformers on ORIGINAL hardware and a godlike CRT. Stay mad and jello, emulator kiddos.

>>3120201
Nice sunken cost fallacy and post purchase rationalization. Are your audio connectors gold plated to protect from viruses?

>>3120348
>confirmed for not knowing what he's talking about
Last time I experienced an input lag in an emulator was back in 2003 when I played Megaman Zero with VBA on a shittoaster.

Also very few emufags go full retard over "muh scanlines".

You may enjoy your games smeared up with vaseline, but I like them crisp and clear, thank you.

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>>3120348
lookin' good, my man.

it is true. emulatorfags are the fucking worst piece of shit that taint this hobby and the pure art of the creators. Off yourselves, emulatorfags.

>>3096591
I just don't have the fucking space.

>>3120348
Going to need to see a back view of that Roll.

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>>3120348
Your games will rot, your consoles will fail. There's nothing you can do to change this. Hope you enjoy selling your collection for a fraction of what you bought them for due to the deterioration.

At least sellers on eBay are making a profit, right? They're striking while the iron is hot - tricking suckers like you into paying ridiculous amounts of money for physical copies of games you could have downloaded for free.

>input lag
Nice meme. You still in the early 2000s, by chance?

>>3120454
You seem the type to enjoy the smell of your own farts. Fucking weirdo.

>>3120550
>everyone is underage and had to buy all of their games within the past 5 years at terribly inflated prices

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>>3120550
>>input lag
>Nice meme. You still in the early 2000s, by chance?

boy, you are a dumb kid.

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>>3120550
dumb, dumb fucking kid.

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>>3120550
dumb, dumb, DUMB fucking kid

>>3119830
>So you are only allowed to play video games if you are hardcore "gamer" hobbyist? What a load of shit.
Sorry, pal. Video games have always been expensive premium items. From arcades to prices of colevision, nes, master system, snes, genesis. game cartridges were more expensive than current video games are today, and there wasn't nearly as much saturation.

>>3108220
I'm like that guy. I mean, I have a relatively small collection all things considered, but I never play what I have because I'm too busy shitposting on this fucking site.

>>3096591
>people who limit their libraries to common and unwanted games

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>>3096591
>people who pay $300 to play a game they had when they were 7

>>3120595

>Video games have always been expensive premium items.

Yep, but now you can play aforementioned arcade, colevision, nes, master system, snes and genesis games for absolutely free on your computer. Or your phone. Or various modded consoles. Or even on a flash cart.

>>3119917
this is me as well. Emulation is just more convenient and I don't like putting wear and tear on the games I have IF I can avoid it.

I will still play the games when I feel like it but if I have a choice of computer or digging out my old system, I'll go computer every chance I get.

>>3120847
well you're not experiencing the games and their systems/ecosystems the way they were INTENDED to be played. you're whimsically shitting on history and not giving a fuck. you sound like an entitled brat pretending it's YOUR right to play these relics. no, we had to work real hard to buy these games and play/beat them without cheats and superficial enhancements with the controllers they were MEANT to be played with and the tv's they were coded to be played on. You're a disrespectful, smug prick. The same with your kind. and I'm ashamed to share the same hobby as you things. You're hardly human if you can't understand the difference between emulation and actually playing the games. You can't emulate emotions or emulate hardware/software to be 1:1 accurate. It's not the same.

I don't emulate because my wife's son recently bought me a retron 5 so now I can play all the games I owned as a kid on my HD TV.

>>3120573
>>3120578
>>3120582

I'm not sure what to make of these pictures you just posted. I mean, the first one is just some guy talking about a CRT he bought and giving his opinion on it. The weird thing is the part where he mentions that a PC engine and a PC engine emulator look mostly exactly the same, which goes against your own point. The second one is an opinion poll from another website which, once again, doesn't actually prove anything at all. The third one is an apparent slight input lag issue on ONE core of ONE emulator. What are you trying to prove with this? Do you think people believe emulation is always 100% perfect all the time (and let's face it, the it is accurate most of the time in most cases)? Are you also unaware that progress marches onwards and emulation will only get more and more accurate as time goes on?

I'm not the guy you were replying to, but I am honestly in awe with your complete ineptitude at addressing his points and even attempting to prove him wrong. Like, you posted all of these pictures, and only one of them had anything to do with what you were talking about, and even then it was still somewhat removed from the point at hand and didn't prove anything at all. Did you think just calling someone a 'kid' over and over would magically make you win this little internet argument? You should probably know that, 9 times out of 10, the guy going around forcefully asserting his maturity by labelling others as 'kids' is usually wrong about whatever he's saying, because he's usually the exact opposite of mature (why else would he be so desperate to assert it?).

I don't really know what else to say here. You are just amazing, my friend. Go see a shrink and get some medication, your thoughts are all over the fucking place.

>>3120868

How am I shitting on history by emulating games? If I went out of my way to hoard all of the retro games ever made and destroyed them in a fire, that would be shitting on history. Emulation isn't shitting on history. Emulation is emulating history (and probably a lot better than you'd like to admit, which is only gonna get better in the future too). I'm not harming your experience by emulating games. And I'm not entitled to them. But if I can play them for free, I will. Especially when the alternative is getting ripped off by resellers who are charging so much for these old games specifically because nostalgiafags like you are willing to pay so much for them.

>play/beat them without cheats

You are aware you can cheat on the original hardware too right? You are aware that emulations isn't cheating unless you choose to use cheats/save states, right?

>You're a disrespectful, smug prick

And yet I'm not the one saying that people who don't emulate are 'barely human'. In fact, I didn't disrespect you at all. I stated a fact. And I disagreed with you. If you think that's disrespectful, pull your head out of your ass. That may be easier said than done at this stage though.

>>3120898
>in the future emulation will be 1:1 accurate

and what about now? why are people using emulation now when they could just use a crt, scart cables, and their old consoles? You basically did a lot of dismissing of his points, but didn't give anything to back up your argument? They still can't get Genesis sound right. Not to mention the wrong aspect ratios for master system. And to thik there are people pretending like they're connoisseurs when the majority of their experienced library is emulators and only emulators. What about dreamcast emulation? That's still fucked. You can't even play Shenmue without missing half the textures and shadows, but you could just buy a dreamcast for 80 dollars and get toro vga box instead.

>>3120935
>Not to mention the wrong aspect ratios for master system
what? I kek'd. you can literally choose any aspect ratio you want.

>>3120947
he probably never emulated, thus those ridiculous claims. besides he is a sega fanboy, so it's a lost cause.

>>3120935

>and what about now?

Depends on what you want to emulate. Generally speaking, the older the console is, the more accurate the emulators will be. I've never had a problem with NES emulation for example. And I've very rarely had issues with SNES emulation. Dreamcast is another thing altogether. I agree, the way things are right now, you've got to buy a Dreamcast instead of emulating. The things is though, you're saying I was dismissing his points. The truth his, he had no coherent points. The person he was replying to never said emulation was perfect, that claim was never made, so it was a strawman. A really, really incoherent strawman. Just like you saying that people are pretending to be connoisseurs. That's a strawman, and it also proves nothing.

>why are people using emulation now when they could just use a crt, scart cables, and their old consoles?

Many, many reasons. If you don't have the consoles already, you have to buy them. Same with the CRT. And even if you do, who says you're going to have a large library of games to choose from? You have to buy them, and that's certainly not cheap these days as we all know. The point is that you can't just assume that everyone is going to have all of this stuff already, and that's why they emulate. You have to understand that it's a calculated trade off. Emulation may not be 100% perfect, but the majority of the time, games will run perfectly on emulators and the only real differences will be extremely minute things like the colours look very slightly different on an emulator. So are you gonna spend all that money, time and effort recreating the pefectly accurate retro experience? Or you gonna spend a few minutes downloading an emulator and some games, plug your pad in and get right to playing straight away? And say, you're playing Super Mario Bros, it's the same thing. We're playing the exact same game. The only differences are very small and very superficial.

>>3120953
this site has been up since 2003. you should have a master system, nes, turbo grafx 16, snes, dreamcast by now

as for price, that's just it. Not every game in the world costs $1,000. You oughtta be willing to pay $80 for Super Mario World because guess what? That's STILL less than what I paid adjusted for inflation. If you're not willing to spend your own paycheck, then it's obvious you don't care enough, and it's obvious you shouldn't be playing these games. This is what I mean when I say "entitlement and brattiness." I had a paper route when I bought Super Wario World and was still going to school. Why don't you have enough money to buy it?

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>>3120984
omg look at this autistic pedophile
>you shouldn't be playing these games.
lmao get alife you troglodyte

>>3120454
Wow you care way too much about what other people do. Off yourself you fucking scumbag

>>3120984
So you created those games and have a right to tell people what to do with them?

And let me guess, I bet you have tons of pirated software/music/videos or other shit on your computer as we speak. Don't be a hypocrite.

>>3120884
>my wife's son
is he a fag and that's why you don't claim him?

>>3121147
>pirated software
For what purpose? The only thing I pirate anymore are games, we're not in 2004 when everything had to be cracked.

This thread is why /vr/ is a joke and why we can never discuss games for fun.

>>3096591
hzhhzahah get fucked nerd

>>3121153
No, it's because he's a cuck and the son is blood related to his wife and her bull, not him.

>>3097384
Jesus J. Christ, boy.
>you'll NEVER be accepted among those who actually played this shit YEARS ago
Like i give a fuck.
>I just don't fucking care
That's surely a long post for someone who doesn't care fella :^)

>>3104043
>thinks quantity is more important than quality
This applies to the retarded hoarders too.

>>3097384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azhi_w8AD0&nohtml5=False

>>3120868
It's the same (better) to me. Suck a fat cock.

>>3121556
>Like i give a fuck.
Exactly. It's so embarrassing and funny to see these autistic retrofags write all these messages to prove something to people who emulate or to themselves. like you don't play the games or you dont deserve to own them or some shit. or you didn't beat the game with save states. it's definitely a severe form of complex and desperate try for relevance and acknowledgement. when in truth no one gives a fuck about all this, most people just casually enjoy gaming and the experience in general. these kind of people seek validation and they become full of fear when they realise that their playing with real hardware and without save states doesn't mean anything and no one cares about the fact that they play on a real console. It's like those kids in school that always bragged about doing homework in time and not just before the break like you....like who cares, you're not special.

>>3121252
Agreed. That and the crt fags, integer scale memelords and the anti filter fuckboys

>>3121701
Yea there is a real problem with autists who are obsessed with being validated and feeling superior to others, not just on /vr/ but basically all over the internet.. So much insecurity over shit that is insignificant. So much entitlement and so much projection and control issue over what people do with their lives/free time. It's downright embarrassing.

If you don't work for a huge game company, there's no reason to give a fuck

>>3104034
are you new to gaming?
do you need directions for /v/?

frame advance makes JRPGS a helluva lot more tolerable

>>3122145
I think you mean fast forward.

>>3096591
People who settle for the restrictions of the original technology.

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>all these salty emulator kids replying to bait
>"hurr durr, he pays for old games lol"

i think emulation is very good and has come a long way from the early 2000's
>>3096853
i like you

>>3122151
I do that a lot when playing pokemon. Gotta grind em all.

I find it funny everytime that the argument presented by purists to why emulation is inferior is because "it just doesn't feel right"

It's like the sonyggers of retrogames when they lose an exclusive.

>>3124040
Generally the argument I see is around emulation errors (specifically N64 and Saturn), and added input lag (all emulators)

>>3124064
10 milliseconds of input lag more are not noticeable by a normal man.

But yeah N64 emulation sucks dick.

>>3124091
>10 milliseconds of input lag more are not noticeable by a normal man.

Completely right, but we haven't gotten to that point with emulators. The lag is more in the ~30-100 ms range, depending on part of the emulator and emulator itself. See >>3122580

>>3120984
>If you're not willing to spend your own paycheck, then it's obvious you don't care enough, and it's obvious you shouldn't be playing these games.
Seeing as I care more about playing the game than small aesthetic differences, I would say I care a lot more than you do. As far as the, "who should not be playing them" thing goes, it is actually incredible how much unwarranted self-importance you possess, but hey, at least you have no self-esteem issues. That is nice.

>>3124098
All those frame of input lag add up to nothing noticeable by a normal man again.
I'm not refusing that a "technical" lag is there, but it's ridicolous to think it's a problem when you can't perceive it

Stupid bait thread, but some interesting responses

>>3096724

Had a friend who was like this. He ordered all the games from overseas, paying well over the normal prices for shipping alone. Yet barely had a stable job, never earning more than $10K/year.

Lived with his mom. His room had a big shelf full of games. Hasn't played most of them, let alone beaten. Really had personality issues too.

I asked him once why he kept it all. He said the only way to stop it is to sell it altogether and quit gaming. Really, I've always thought it was more like an addiction, because it defied any reason.

It's basically fetishizing games.

>>3101105

When you pirate a game which just came out instead of buying it, the game retailers and/or publishers don't get their potential revenues.

When you couldn't / wouldn't buy the game anyway, they don't lose anything really. Because there was no chance of you buying the game in the first place.

When you download a game which came out 20+ years ago, the only people who lose potential revenue are resellers. None of your money will go to retailers, publishers, let alone developers who probably have long quit the company/the industry or even died.

The only ones who benefit from "can't buy can't play" purism are resellers. The paradigm which was intended to protect the copyright holders, publishers and retailers is used by you to protect no one, I repeat, NO ONE except resellers.

You think you vote with your cash for ol' Nintendo, Sega, and so on. Well congrats, I have a surprise for you—none of your money goes to them. You'd be better off buying a Virtual Console game / port of the original than the old cartridge, actually paying the copyright holders and publishers, supporting the industry.

In the perfect world, the companies should have just accepted that emulators are and will be forever. They should just sell ROMs with piracy protection for purists. Console hardware has always been a loss leader anyway.

>>3123170
>he gives his money willingly to resellers

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People who don't give a fuck what other people do and do what they want

>>3119541
I actually played on the original 2600 when it came out and intellision etc. I only play emulated games because those old games are only fun for an hour or so at max. Why the fuck would I be so stupid as to dump a bunch of money into old games I already played for a brief trip down memory lane? I'd rather spend money on drugs to take while on my retro trip. But That's just me. You want to spend a fortune to pretend you had my childhood thats your business. That's the thing about your life, you live it the way you choose. If it makes you feel superior because you own something, OK whatever. Good luck getting laid by that fat nerdy chick you think its going to impress.

>>3120348
Omg I'm so jealous. Lol lewser

>>3124098
"Emulators have bad Input lag" is a myth perpetuated by people who do not know how emulators really work and how to set them up properly.

30-100ms input lag only happens if the emulator in question parses input and logic calculation+rendering consecutively, which only happens if you go for direct instruction-by-instruction emulation (most accurate one, some emulators allow that). If your machine can not parse that much data, you will get an input lag.

Nowadays you can see same effect in bad ports of console games - last time I saw it in Just Cause 2 port (input lag on framerates below 60).

No emulator uses this behaviour by-default since early 2000's - input, logic and rendering calculations are handled simultaneously in a JIT (re-translated instructions) emulation. How accurate is JIT translation though is a different question, but Cycle-accurate emulation is definitely achievable on anything from PSone and earlier.
Now, something else for elitistic faggots to consider: button press lag. When you play game with a gamepad, all your main actions are controlled by your thumbs, and when you switch the actions you do, you have to move your thumb, which takes quite a fey ms. On the keyboard however, all your fingers are already layed out on top of the buttons with actions you use - you dont have to move your fingers an extra cm, leading to less time required to execute an action in-game.

I get a hard on every time I blow on an old cart and it actually still works. But I get an ever bigger hard on now I can sell old carts for a lot of cash that I couldn't sell at a garage sale years ago.

>>3125976
>"It's only horrible because of how juvenile it is" "It feels horrible because they're trying to sell it as something deep and serious" - that is good description of the series.

you can say it, must it doesn't mean it's true.

Also, it's not about impressions. It's about integrity.

>>3125976
>Why the fuck would I be so stupid as to dump a bunch of money into old games I already played for a brief trip down memory lane? I'd rather spend money on drugs to take while on my retro trip.

then you're not even an enthusiast. and that's what his post was trying to illustrate. Those who emulate seem to be those that whimsically take the games for granted and don't really appreciate them. They're just secondary or irrelevant to whatever else they have taking away their attention in life. That's called being a casual. It's also called being a normalfag, and 4chan is not for normalfags.

>>3126120
Well look at that elitist asshole.
I do not need to own a physical copy of Terry Pratchetts book to apreciate the marvelous writing. Owning a physical copy and being able to put it on a shelf sure is nice, but don't you fucking dare to tell me that I can not appreciate a thing just because my views on it do not fit into your narrow (and honestly, very simplistic) definition of "being an enthusiast".

>>3126120
lol, you're a victim

>>3126120
So i guess any music or movies you rip off of a disc isn't "real"? Tell that to millions of people who stream/download shit then dipshit

i was once an elitist who would not emulate and wait for the game to turn cheap nowadays 8/16 bit games i just fucking emulate now.

>>3126120
>4chan is not for normalfags
*tips fedora the size of an oldsmobile

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>>3127013

This thread is a testament to how anti-emulator fags are the absolute scum of the earth and, by a large margin, the worst posters on this board. I don't even know what else to say at this point. And nothing else really needs to be said. They've said it all themselves. Good god, just scroll through this thread again, witness all that sperging out and frothing at the mouth. Witness all that elitism and irrationality. I have to wonder how many of them have moderate to severe intellectual disabilites. I can be pretty certain most of them are mentally ill in one way or another.

It shakes me to my core to think that I share a board with these poor cretins. They're the ones jerking off over their CRTs. They're the ones bragging about paying 200 bucks for NES cartridges. They're most likely the ones who ruined practically every Castlevania thread we have here with masturbatory posts like "Rondo of Blood is EASY, you fucking retard, I beat it when I was 10 and didn't run out of lives once!". Something has to be done. There needs to be a purge. The horror, the horror.

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>>3127054
You're letting srsbns fags ruin your fun.
Just stop. You can obviously tell good retro-loving people from elitist scum, so just ignore the people trying to justify blowing good drug money on rotting hardware, or better yet, laugh at them while on good drugs bought with the money you didn't waste on rotting capacitors/batteries/CD presses.

I emulate any console that doesn't use discs. The ones that do, i just hard/soft mod them for under 10 dollars.

Paying for a flashcart is unnecessary, and actually paying for the cart is just financially retarded in today's world.

My SNES/MD/MS/2600 and their games have sat on a shelf in my closet for about 10 years. There's really no reason to slowly kill the consoles that have sentimental value to me by using them every other day via a flashcart. especially when i can output 240p via RGB off my PC and get the same results.

>>3126120
literally 'if you didn't sink money into a used product like i did then you haven't appreciated it like i did and ur a pleb" the post

it's like saying people who go to museums don't appreciate the attractions because they didn't buy them.

>>3127054

There is clearly the same level of rambling extremist morons on both sides.

You're polarized so strongly you can't see the colors of the side you're on. Your rant illustrates that you're part of the problem.

>>3127090

Come on. Look at this thread. Show me one rambling extremist from the pro-emulation side and I'll give you ten from the anti-emulation side. I daresay you're the one with the bias here, anon.

>>3127065

I bought some drugs last night actually.

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>>3127134
I don't even mind the collectors. I think it's a bad idea though, considering-
1. The bubble's gonna pop like a hot pimple once those carts and consoles start really losing their batteries and capacitors.
2. It's gonna be very depressing if you spent all that money and your collection is non-functioning due to the ravages of time.

I feel bad for retro collectors who pay lots for their gear. I know a lot about chemistry, being fully edded in orgo, and I know what awaits them when the polymers and electrolytic fluids reach their end days.

People shouldn't take collecting these games so seriously, because of what's coming. And what's coming is a very good reason, and a very important reason, that we need good emulation and roms, to preserve these games far into the future.

Because polycarbonate and capacitor electrolyte aren't forever.

>>3127090
Uh no.. No one who is pro emulation is really being condescending to other people for no reason, like this same fag idiot ( >>3126120 ) that prob started this thread to begin with.

>>3127174
>Uh no.. No one who is pro emulation is really being condescending to other people for no reason

Yes, they are. All the time. Enter a 'battlestation' or 'recent pickup' thread some time. The last two battlestation threads got drowned out by anti-cart shitposting.

>>3127134
See
>>3127206

Besides, this is clearly an anti-emulation trolling thread, which will cause extreme confirmation bias.

Every thread around physical carts or setups is slammed with emulation or flashcart junk posts to the point of absurdity.

>>3127174

Our last pickup thread was a minefield. Fortunately the janitor's and mod's deleted a bunch, but just a quick scan through brought up these useful posts:

>>3070131
>>3070132
>>3070181
>>3070953
>>3071079
>>3071094
>>3071101
>>3074510
>>3075236
>>3076285
>>3091790
>>3100008
>>3110786

>>3127228
And for contrast, here's our current emulation thread:

>>3118538

The only noteworthy shitposting is emulation vs emulation. People who own their games aren't junking it up.

>>3103443
>>3103458

Happened to me. Busted two dudes mid burglary. One had a ps3 under his arm, the other had a big box of Genesis and SegaCD shit in his hands.

>He thinks emulation isn't a gimped experience filled with audio and visual bugs.
I've never finished an emulated game because I always notice the errors.

>>3127314
> he emulated last time in the 90s
i love how 40 year olds you haven't kept up with technology comment on emulation. This is so funny on this board.
>he probably still runs XP

>>3127316
Name a good emulator and don't say Higan, you fool.

>>3127318
>Name a good emulator and don't say Higan
Higan, Kega, ePSXe, Nestopia, VBA

>>3127318
bsnes (higan), mednafen psx, nestopia undead edition, gambatte, mgba, dolphin, kega fusion, genesis plus gx, mame
>he really is 40 years old
>he really doesn't know anything about emulation

>>3127326
>>3127340
Nestopia is the only decent one on that list. Higan has a ton of bugs (try Umihara Kawase or Mario No Super Picross)
Don't make me fucking laugh with PS1 emulation. It's about as bad as PS2.

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>>3127392

>>3127392
>try Umihara Kawase or Mario No Super Picross
I never even heard of these two games, and do not care about them and their functioning on emulators.
All the games in my rom list work fine on my emulators. That's all I care about. Because I don't take things so serious.

If I had a working Super Famicom, do you think I'd own either of those two titles? No. No I wouldn't. So it doesn't matter.

Stop nitpicking. Emulation's not perfect, but in 20 years, it'll be the only way you'll be playing 16 bit games, because as I said, capacitors rot. And unless you're some kinda nut, you're not going to pay $500+ to have the caps in your SNES/Genesis replaced.

Oh, BTW. Memory chips and CD plastic also rot. Eventually, say 25-30 years max, the save chips on your carts and the CDs holding your DC/PS/Saturn are going to be degraded to the point of complete dysfunction.

THESE are the reasons why emulation is important and needs to keep developing. It's the only way to actually preserve these games.

>>3127410
Please enjoy Mario's Super Picross.

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>>3127429
I likely would have as a kid as I loved puzzle games back then. Now, they bore me. Even Tetris. I'm too much of an asshole now I suppose.

Anyway, emulation needs support, as hardware eventually dies.
When we're all 60 years old and gray/bald on the head, there won't be any working 16 bit consoles except in special collections that have never been used and kept under pristine conditions. All the chips and resistors and caps will have rotted/worn away. Electricity is a motherfucker on various chemical compounds, even silicon.

Hell, I'll bet by 2025, 80% of all currently functioning pre-2000 consoles will be incapable of proper functioning, and only the most die-hard aficionados will pay the large amount of $$$ to refit capacitors, resistors, batteries, etc to get their machines working.
The games and stuff might still be collectable in the same way paperweights are collectable.

Sad I know, but that's time. It's a bitch. The well-played SNES and Megadrive say to you in weakened voices: "We're gonna go... rest... now. Thanks.. for playing."

>>3127410
While the consoles we are using today will surely become unusable in due time, I wouldn't be surprised if producing your own circuit boards and IC:s would be, economically, a viable option; allowing purists to build faithful replicas of old consoles by then.
I can imagine CD-based consoles would be a lot trickier to get working if you follow the original design, but then you could use methods like the PSIO employs to load games off of an SD card or such.
We already have 3D printers to make our own plastic shells to house it. It's just a matter of time.

By the way, if you did care enough to import a working Super Famicom, I wouldn't discount the possibility that you would also be interested in Umihara Kawase.

>>3127467
>Umihara Kawase
Looking it up, seems like a strange kinda game.
I'll try anything as long as I can read the text.

>>3096591
Fuck you mother fucker

>>3127467
>Shilling consoles for one irrelevant game no one cares about
Kek

>>3127314
>filled with audio and visual bugs.

Which doesn't exist at all

This guy is obviously trying to just piss people off. It's quite pathetic

>>3127514
Yeah and it's sad that some people here feed the trolls instead of ignoring them.

>>3119541
When I was a kid in '99, of course I didn't give a shit about accuracy. I could play all the games I never had for free thanks for the wonders of dial-up internet.

>>3127487
It's just a platformer, no Japanese necessary. It's pretty cool.

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>>3119541
Born in 1985, had an NES, SNES, PS, and an N64 late in its life. Also, GB, GBC, and GG.
I played a huge amount of friend's Genesis titles, the Saturn, and the Dreamcast.

All fine machines.
But they were all played on fucking 16-30" TVs through either RF or composite, with stereo sound an uncommon feature. They all had their hangups too. Various games would at times hang or glitch. So the systems weren't perfect.
Now, I emulate, and never run into those old problems. It's not accurate, sure. I'm playing emulated games on bright 1080p Asus IPS panels in pure pixelated glory, no scanlines, through Sony MDR-7506 headphones using various sound enhancements(such as equalizers) through drivers, and I use a wired Dualshock 3 as my controller on all of them.

What's awesome about all of this is, I get killer sound, brilliant sharp color(all without heating up my living room as much as a good CRT would), and I'm not doing any of it for nostalgia.
The modern game market is SHIT, and I wanna play some damn games, and there's countless titles I never played that are retro, so playing them is like playing a brand new modern title.
It's not the "feeling like a kid again" I love. It's the "you're playing true vidya" feeling I get that makes me not give a single fuck that modern games are trash.

Oh, and I don't pay a fucking cent for it outside of the power bill and PC parts used.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>3096724
I wish I could audibly applaud you, but good tucking post.

>>3127598
Good on ya brother. I was born in 82 but I grew up with the almost all the same systems (had Sega genesis and CD and 32x addons, but no SNES or N64.. got a Playstation that gen instead).

Spot on about just wanting to play old games that were actually great games to play and not overglorified movies. I think if I only played retro games JUST for nostalgia, I'd be playing a few really shitty games like FMV games and mediocre platformers that I grew up playing because buying games back then was a gamble.

I'd much rather focus on playing games that I actually love to play and since I'm kind of picky which games that I like to play, its nice to discover new great ones with ease with the internet.

I's still a gamble nowadays because you'd have to pay up the ass for a game you're not sure if you like and can get horribly ripped off. If the money was actually going to the game companies, then it's a gamble I like to take but not if resellers are getting rich off of my dumb choices.

>>3127598
One of the few sane posts in this thread.

Consoles:

+ It works, as in, you are technically able to play the game
- You have to pay for broken / old parts and games that quit working
- You have to play around with a bunch of shitty wires
- If something breaks, you have to spend a shitload of money and then wait for it to show up in the mail. Who knows what the seller did with it, they probably wiped their ass on it and jizzed all over it.

Emulation:

+ You don't have to pay for any games
+ No region locking to worry about or anything like that
+ Entire libraries of games are stored in a very small amount of data on your hard drive; no hardware / game maintenance required
+ You can use any controller you want - Including the controller of the original console if you wish
+ The game doesn't "stretch" to take up the entire TV, instead, it renders at an appropriate resolution
+ You can use any TV; no worries about obsolete connection methods
+ Rom hacks - Opening up an entirely new realm of games
+ Additional options such as filters

And the greatest benefit of emulation of them all:

+ It angers hipsters and internet puritans who try to impress people by saying "Hey, look at me everyone! I play on a CRT TV and I think the original console is better than emulation! I'm SOOO fucking EDGY! XD"

Go ahead and try to minimize and downplay all these advantages if you want - It won't keep emulation from being better, and it won't change the facts.