/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

>>33153747
>TotT: What pokemon have you ended up liking due to PMD, that you didn't before?

Emolga/Drifblim/Kecleon are the most notable ones that come to mind

Was there ever a patch to fix Gates' text speed?
Even if there was is it worth playing when Super exists?

>>33153747
>TotT
Gates made me like Oshawott a whole lot more after having him as a partner.

On a TOTALLY unrelated note, VPMD >>33154179

>>33154156
>Was there ever a patch to fix Gates' text speed?
Nope.

>Even if there was is it worth playing when Super exists?
Only if you're interested in the stuff they tried to do.

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>>33154156
No they never fixed the text speed and probably made the decision to pad out the game's length.

You play Gates when you want a PMD game that has a good story with actual characters. The gameplay shares some of the QOL improvements you already know from Super like combat menus and storage convenience while at the same time offering far less post game content than you can get post game from any of the other games and slowing the rest down with slow text speed. I'm not going to pretend it's some masterpiece of writing, but it blows the other games out of the water.

>>33154602
>The gameplay shares some of the QOL improvements you already know from Super
It has more QOL improvements than Super does.

>>33148973
>Salamance
>not using hypno for the creepy jokes

>>33153747
>What pokemon have you ended up liking due to PMD, that you didn't before?
Verizion, i hated how in bw2 they just put those legendaries in your path while you're still on the main story and they didn't give it any kind of introduction or anything

>>33154156
it depends for what reason you play PMD, if you play for the story then play, if you play for the gameplay, skip it.

>>33155084
>>not using hypno for the creepy jokes
It's an old forced meme about being able to recruit Salamence before even leaving preschool.

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You just spawned on the next floor and this trio swoops on in, what do you do?

>>33156306
I roll to seduce

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>>33153747
>TotT
Gates made Virizion into my pokewaifu, sooo

Not that I didn't like her before, I just had no real opinion on her before that game.

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>Oh shit nigger it's a BIG WIN
>Ludicolo busts through the wall and starts dancing and shit
>Congrats! You get a worthless TM!
I'm a little bit upset.

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>>33160008
>step on one just after drinking an elixir

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>>33162741
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>>33164808
fukken saved

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>>33153747
>TOTT
Wigglytuff, Ampharos, Espurr, and especially Skitty (my Sky partner) are the ones that come to mind right away.

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>>33164851
>not already liking Ampharos

At least you saw the light eventually.

>>33164880
.t johtoddler
Reminder Shinx and Pikachu, other earlygame electric shitmons, became playable heroes before memesheep did

>>33164980
And how many of those became a guildmaster?

>Super Mystery Dungeon
>major characters include Shelmet, Audino, Simipour, Archen, Watchog, Carracosta, Krokorok and Krookodile
Maybe these faggots should've shown up in Gates instead of shoving legendaries down our throat

>>33165007
>being a walking joke instead of the player is a good thing
>in the game with fucking breaks
>but it's ok because he gets shit done while being randumb just like Wigglytuff!
sure

>>33165069
>not being randumb yourself
baka

>>33165060
>legendaries
There's only one though.

Chunsoft's writers are hacks. PMD's best aspect is the dungeon crawling

>>33165069
Do not bully Ampharos

>>33165221
>I'm a human that became a Pokemon and has absolutely no personality whatsoever
>I'm a Pokemon that needs to be absolutely coddled by my robotic human-Pokemon chimera because I suck at everything
>I'm another Pokemon who hangs around a hybrid abomination, but I'm a reincarnation of a god 1000 years ago and fought in this super epic war against an orb that can turn people into stone! I lost my memories but now I regained them because an adult touched me
>I'm a time traveling Pokemon who also lacks personality. I'm misunderstood, considered a criminal, and have a mythical Pokemon sucking my dick 24/7
>I'm an obviously evil Pokemon that turns out to be the villain
>I'm an evil legendary but I wasn't actually evil! I was mindhacked by distortions and negativity!
>I'm literally the god of nature but instead of being something that fits my role I'm a pseudo, just to look cooler! My personality doesn't fit my species at all either!
>I'm the leader of a guild filled with cardboard cutouts. I'm always doing wacky things and am seemingly useless, but asspull the player by knowing about the final destination they need to go to
>I'm in an all girl team look at how sexy I am aren't I so hot
>jew lizard
Thank god the B button exists

>>33165285
Thank god the hide post button exists

>>33165285
>instead of being something that fits my role I'm a pseudo, just to look cooler! My personality doesn't fit my species at all either!
who is this supposed to be

>>33165285
Protagonist
Partner (probably Explorers)
Super Partner
Grovyle
Dusknoir/Munna/Nuzleaf
Dialga/Yveltal
Hydreigon
Wigglytuff/Ampharos
Team Charm as a whole
Kecleon

What do I win? Won't lie, PMD plots are overrated as hell. I guess when the only comparison is thhe main series' abysmal stories, people will tend to overhype it, just like BW2's actual postgame compared to any other mainline games' Battle Tower/Battle Tower with gimmicks.

>>33165285
>not a single Rescue Team-exclusive character in this post
Does that mean RT's the best for having the least amount of fanfic-esque characteristics?

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>>33165313
I don't know why this guy is complaining about Hydreigon. The fact he wasn't evil or mischievous was a little blip of life in the flat line of the series' stories.
I mean, not everything has to be the same, right?

Hydreigon was cool.

>>33165331
Munna wasn't "obviously evil". I didn't find it interesting though, since it turns out to be evil right when you meet it for the first time anyway. I liked that she had some kind of ideology though

Is it weird to hope that these games don't get any more sequels? It's not that they're bad, but there's really no place for the series to go after Super. There, you got to explore the whole world, befriend everyone, from new villagers to the old cast from past games, and got all sorts of nods even in the storyline, with Ampharos very obviously being an improved Wigglytuff. The stakes were at their highest here, too. If another game were to be made, it'd be a lot harder to top unless they were to set it in a whole new universe, and didn't try to top Dark Matter in terms of how threatening it is, otherwise it'd come across as cheesy.
And let's be honest, another PMD would be doomed to become a gacha.

>>33165447
I was never a fan of the whole "THE ENTIRE WORLD IS AT STAKE" deal. Would rather something lighter.

>>33165447
>Is it weird to hope that these games don't get any more sequels?
Yes.

>there's really no place for the series to go after Super
Wrong.

>The stakes were at their highest here, too.
>top Dark Matter in terms of how threatening it is, otherwise it'd come across as cheesy.
Dark Matter is already a cheesy and failed attempt at topping the Bittercold.

>set it in a whole new universe
The past games felt like that. It's like Super forced them all together in the same universe.

>>33165538 (me)
Also, I agree with >>33165457. I liked it in Explorers because I really like time travel plots.

>>33165543
Time travel sucks ass, and Explorers did a piss poor job at handling it. Even in Sky, you only get the bare minimum, Grovyle, Celebi, Dusknoir, and feral Pokemon. Grovyle makes an off-hand comment about people that haven't gone mad or corrupt in the future, which could've been interesting, but all throughout the main storyline and even the special episode, you only get to see the wastelands and Grovyle. Doesn't help that the ending is a total cop-out.

>>33165589
>Time travel sucks ass
No it doesn't, time travel is cool.

>>33165447
>>33165457
What if instead of upping the stakes, they instead made a plot with a nuanced conflict. Of it that is not the way Chunsoft likes things, have the players deal with a catastrophe that doesn't have instant failure, but instead is a case of multiple problems making things awful. Since UBs are a thing, maybe have the UBs become invasive species fucking shit up, and you and other explorers are investigating these weird findings. Maybe throw the expectations off at first by attributing an unusual event to native Pokemon.

Does someone have the archive of the UB boss battle ideas?


Another thing that could be done is to have an explorer's organization origins story that involves you becoming the founder. It could be sort of a proto-civilization thing where you develop a town and increase its population and infrastructure.

>>33165618
Time travel in Japanese media is always weeb schlock, and PMD's no exception

>>33165424
>tfw he came out of the screen
Best use of 3D in the entire game.

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new playthru

>>33165977
good pick

>>33165983
Fennekin is qt.

I can imagine an SMD nuzlocke.

If we get a new PMD we need the return of the itemizer orb.

>>33166482
true

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What if Heat Wave hits all Pokemon including your team?

ToTT: For me it was Mudkip. I never really cared much about him as a pokemon until SMD and now it's my second favorite.

>>33165457
If I'm being honest, I'd rather have "THE ENTIRE WORLD IS AT STAKE" thing be more prominent in the story. Always felt kind of strange for the main conflict to really only rear its head at the last third whereas the first half is just dicking about. Dicking about is fine if the characters are good, but that was only the case in the 3DS titles, and even with Super, those characters became completely irrelevant to the second half.

TotT: Wigglytuff and Absol.

>>33167665
GtI did both things near the end of the game, and the characters were better than usual.

TotT: Wigglytuff and Emolga. Emolga especially, loved the personality in GtI. I wish the character in super were more fleshed out.

>>33165060
>major characters include Shelmet, Audino, Simipour, Archen, Watchog, Carracosta, Krokorok and Krookodile
>Maybe these faggots should've shown up in Gates instead of shoving legendaries down our throat
i don't know if to laugh or cry at your sad attempt at baiting.

>>33165285
>I'm literally the god of nature but instead of being something that fits my role I'm a pseudo, just to look cooler!
what would've been a good pokemon that fits it's role?, also the whole fake dreams wouldn't have work if it wasn't an intimidating looking pokemon, and for the scenes they needed a big flying pokemon, the only other pokemon that ''fits'' into the rol was Braviary

>My personality doesn't fit my species at all either!
I mean, he isn't really a hydreigon, so...

>>33168891
>everything is shitposting now

>>33169501
He's right though. The guy listed 8 Pokémon and said they should replace one single character.

>>33169501
>>33169543
What i meant is that that guy listed 8 pokemon and said that they're major characters, but the thing is that out of those 8, 5 of them get ditched past the midpoint in the game and are only seen right before the game is done. except for Shelmet, who is never to be seen again, RIP school kids, that's why i don't know if laugh or cry at his low level bait.
Also the only legendary that gets treated like a legendary is Kyurem, the only 2 other legendaries being Verizion and Keldeo might as well be regular pokemon, for they have no special qualities asociated to them.
and Victiny is just a gag
If anything Super shoves as many legendaries as it can at you, especially at that one final act

>>33169756
Victini isn't even a character, I forgot about it. And I don't count Keldeo because he only shows up at the end. Virizion is the only one that is "shoved down our throats".

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>>33171549
Yea, stepping on a pokemon trap in the Abyssal Badlands would look exactly like this.

>>33166482
Itemizer orb is so immoral.

>>33172655
Denying me a source food, that in itself is immoral

>>33172765
get outta here Buu

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Best starter/partner

>>33173333
I mean the quads don't lie, but which one is the starter here?

>>33173936
Honestly doesn't really matter

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>tfw you accidentally reset on a quicksave dungeon and lose all the cool stuff you had
just kill me

>>33171549
what is this

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Why does this move exist.

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>>33153747
You know I gotta ask what the OP image is from.

>>33174472
A ditto transform as a mobile phone which someone placed in a microwave.

>>33174521
it's sonichu

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>>33174504
>makes enemies attack other enemies instead of you
Could be useful if you weren't better off just KOing them
Don't know why they didn't adapt it properly like in the later games though.

Will stalling ever be a viable strat in PMD?

>>33175032
I swear to god you can't recruit as a Sub.

>>33174337
>savescumming in a roguelike
You deserve it

>>33175117
Stay mad

>>33175117
>savescumming
>when the game forces you to save
Get the fuck out of here.

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I FUCKING DID IT GUYS

>>33174521
Someone already said sonichu, so I guess I'll just give the honest answer: it's some random PMD comic from deviantart called Hope in Friends.

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>>33176454
>>33174521

>>33176560
>wanting an evolved form

>>33174521
https://zander-the-artist.deviantart.com/art/Hope-In-Friends-Chapter-3-Page-6-680613004
It's not really worth a read unless you're particularly thirsty for PMD comics and you've already caught up with Victory Fire, Tales of Elysium, Adventures of Team Sunflower and the like.

>>33176560
>bad Pokemon OC
>random tufts of fur sticking out everywhere
every time

>>33178281
this. Why do people still do that shit?

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>>33178281
I'll never understand.

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>>33178431
It looks nothing like an oshawott

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I want to experience Explorers for the first time, but I can't decide between playing Sky as a rom on an emulator, or Time as a cartridge on a 3ds. What would you recommend?

>>33179118
why would you play time when sky is the same but with added shit, sky is practically the base game with the expansion all in one.

>>33176560
Is that a cock behind that tree in the first panel?
>>33178431
I've seen tufts of fur on pokemon like Charmanders and Squirtles
>>33178324
>>33178431
Because drawing pokemon requires a different type of technique but most artists can't be fucked learning something new so they rather do a slight modification to the one they used to draw their two legged walking sins. The main problem is you can't call out the artist for being a lazy turd because you'll have 1000 faggots saying some commie shit about artist expression.

>>33179691
I was wondering if playing the game as it was meant to be played (in a handled console with the cartridge) would be in some way more enjoyable experience, even if it didn't have the extra stuff from Sky.

>>33179811
Ok, so here are the cons and pros of playing on the console

>Pros
-If you move a lot or wanna have something to play at work you can
-you get the original experience
-can show it off to other people

>Cons
-small screen
-will be missing content from sky and if you wanna experience that content you will have to play the whole game again without changes since most of the stuff in sky is post game
-doesn't have save states or turbo speed

now you tell me which one do you prefer

>>33179811
I like playing on my DS, since i can lay in bed and watch stuff at the same time. But Time is obsolete, and Sky is Time but better

>>33179923
>>33179964
Ok, I'll play Sky. I don't think I'll look good at work with a blue 2ds anyway. Thanks.

>>33179923
>-can show it off to other people
unless you would only show it off to people on the internet

why do web archives need to be a thing, I didn't even remember I wrote this stupid pmd fanfic I don't even want to attempt to read this. this thing actually starts off with me being sad that I accidentally deleted the next part
help me

>>33179792
>I've seen tufts of fur on pokemon like Charmanders and Squirtles
Now this I need to see.

>>33181324
I used to do stuff like that, too. I think there's something good about it though, it's like, uh, honest I'd say? I remember I found it way easier to make friends when I behaved like that. It was embarrassing but it was kind of fun too. I wish it wasn't so easy to track back though.

>>33181326
There's also one guy who once made a Gliscor OC and has given it a tuft of hair, even though it's a fucking scorpion.

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>>33181326

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>>33181832
>this art

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>>33181832
Am I doing it right?

>>33181874
Not enough random tufts

>>33181832
Ugh, these artstyles are even worse than I imagined. That pic in the middle with Manaphy is the least terrible of the bunch, but the rest are beyond saving.

>>33181874
Kind of, can you do a Voltorb though
>>33181879
Can't argue with that

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>>33181890
Sure thang

>>33181879
The top one looks like something out of fucking Club Penguin, and everything else looks like an ugly Disney/generic cartoon knockoff.

>>33181940
We need to go even further
Would you be alright with doing a tufted Klink or Magnemite?

>>33181847
>cresselia
>kill urself my man
But Cresselia usually kills herself.

>>33181940
Nice
>>33181958
No need, fur tufts on Voltorb is already ridiculous

>>33181832
>wants to somehow accentuate 'diz iz my pogeyman OC'
>is too retarded to think

I mean, okay, GF is fucking bonkers for making only one mon specie with somewhat unique appearance for each specimen, but for fucks sake, there are so many methods to distinguish 'your' mon from other, that are way less retarded than throwing tufts of fur on scalie pokemon

>>33156306
Use super effective moves

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When is PMD going to get a final boss such as this?

>>33182295
>fake groudon
what is the illusion Groudon at the Steam Cave

>>33182295
Fake legendaries are so early game. Final bosses are supposed to be edgy orbs/recolors.

New mystery dungeon plot ideas.
here's a short, rought draft
>actually more than one human-transformed-into-pokemon for once
>you slowly meet more of the humans
>and then suddenly disaster strikes and nobody knows who the fuck did it
>more disasters and you try to figure out who the fuck it is
>you end up learning that it's one of the humans, and he's pretty much an irredemable dick (like Darkrai) that pretended to be nice
>one of the other humans knew this but were too anxious and scared of possible consequences to reveal it.

>>33182504
>>actually more than one human-transformed-into-pokemon for once
t. Never played gates

>>33182521
I should rephrase that.

More than one human-transformed-into-Pokemon AT once.

Gates doesn't count because everybody fucking dies before you enter.

>>33182539
>everybody fucking dies before you enter.
They keep "getting transported back" while you're still there.

>>33182547
The lights or whatever.

The things is, you never really fight or travel with them.

like i fucking want to travel together with another human and save the world together for once

or maybe fight a human that has went bonkers

That said, I'd love to see a PMD where both you and your partner are former humans.

>>33182564
that would be cool

Why would having other humans be any more interesting? If the writers came up with a great story they would benefit from it as a plot point sure, but as a standalone idea it doesn't actually add anything of value.

>>33182564
>tfw I thought the big twist of Super would be that your partner was the fabled human from the first Dark Matter battle sent from the past to deal with it one final time
I still kind of want that compared to what actually happened

I'd love a PMD that took a long gaze at port royale and thought, hey, that market model is cool

>>33182629
elaborate

>>33182591
Main character and partner could bond over it.

>>33182690
there are multiple settlements of pogeymen, where you can trade and build your own shit, and to travel between them you need clear way-geons
the more prosperous city the bigger sphere of influence it radiates, making the close way-geons easier, more linear and sprinkled with more PoIs
normal dungeons let you discover artifacts, utility items, and sometimes allow you to raise new city or production outpost, making dungeons a bit more pleasant to traverse, but usually allowing for new, more challenging approach.
you can buy shit in one city, load it on something, pass all necessary way-geons (from two or three between starting cities to even five or six between late-game cities)
quests can be assigned to dungeons, like in old times, or way-geons.

all cities need things to prosper, but they can't produce all they need, so they need traders and caravans running between them.
you can be industrial mogul, charismatic trader or claw-for-hire, clearing way by beating unhinged wildmons out of newly established trade routes.

>decide to re-play RRT after a long time
>couldn't decide between mudkip or cyndaquil
>chose mudkip
>remember now why I never chose mudkip as a kid
IT FUCKING SUCKS
I SHOULD'VE GONE WITH CYNDAQUIL AT LEAST IT HAS SMOKESCREEN
EVERYTHING KEEPS STEAMROLLING ME
ALL THE BEGINNING DUNGEONS HAVE TYPE ADVANTAGES TO ME
MUDKIP ISN'T EVEN CUTE
ITS EVOLUTIONS AREN'T EVEN ATTRACTIVE
IT'S A FUCKING FISH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>33182960
>MUDKIP ISN'T EVEN CUTE
>ITS EVOLUTIONS AREN'T EVEN ATTRACTIVE
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

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>>33182960
>evolving ever

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>>33182960
>what is attract

>>33182960
>not linking Mud Slap+Growl to cripple the enemy in one go
>not ditching it for Wooper

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If anyone feels like doing a rescue, right about now would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

>>33185254
>doesn't say the dungeon

>>33185256
Sorry, I had trouble finding where I could see that. It's what I believe to be the last dungeon in the future.
Deep Dusk Forest 10F
I'm pretty sure I was close to the exit.

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>>33185254

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>>33185594
Thank you!

I wish the end game of PMD had more loot like shit you can sell for 9999 and quite OP items

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>>33187489
just turn to a life of crime and hit up the secret bazaars afterwards

>>33187507
for a while I thoght palkia's backsprite was diancie

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>>33182591
If the writers wanted to make a scenario that requires the human to not be a blank slate, then they could make a major human NPC that has a detailed past.
The other thing is that it gives you not only a third-person perspective on the human becoming a Pokemon predicament, but also alternative situations that you could've been in, such as being alone without a partner or joining a criminal gang.

>>33188835
What're those made of, anyway?

>>33189337
Spite and consummate misanthropy.

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>>33189330
>If the writers wanted to make a scenario that requires the human to not be a blank slate, then they could make a major human NPC that has a detailed past.

I got a stupid idea about this
>you start the game as usual
>you met your partner and tell him you used to be a human
>your partner doesn't believe you and thinks you're joking
>you insist and ask why would he doubt you
>he says because there was only one human that they know from a legend and that human would come back to save the day if EVIL GUY came back
>EVIL GUY comes back
>your partner believes you now and through the game you explore ruins and places in search of things that can make your human memories come back, along the way you learnt more about the human history
>It says that the human used a special Z-move to defeat the EVIL GUY, and while you remember the moves, you still need the Z crystal and Z ring and scarf to make it work
>you go and find the Z Crystal and go to the EVIL GUY's lair to defeat him
>you equip the Z ring and your partner equips the Z scarf and try to use the Z move to defeat him but it doesn't work
>It doesn't work because you're not the one suppose to equip the Z ring, but your partner, since he was the human all along, and you were his pokemon partner in the past

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>>33193670
>rob

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>aegis cave

>>33181958
I'm burnt out on /ic/ studies, sorry fampai.

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>>33193670

You think there'll ever be a game as good as Sky again?

>>33195963
It's alright famiglia. Least I got an answer.
Maybe I'll try doodling a bad OC of my own, who knows

>>33196071
>he hasn't played Super yet

>>33196231
Yes, I've played the game that revolves around the retarded magic pokemon craigslist/facebook instead of actually recruiting members and going on missions
The story was 7/10 at best and the post-game despite having a fair bit of content took the wind out of my sails faster than any other game in the series

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>>33196071
If they get the same writters that they had in GTI and make the game for the 3DS reusing all of the assets of Super, then yes.
They would have very little work to do adding the stuff from gen VII and making new maps, so that would leave them with plenty of time to add extra content.

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>>33196321
We have similar tastes

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>>33196321

How likely is Jangmo-o as a starter for the gen 7 pmd?

>>33196687
very likely if they decided to make it exactly like gates to infinity, close to none if they decide to include only 1 pokemon of this gen along the starters, since it would be competing against the super popular rockruff, or the less popular but still more interesting choice of mimikyu.

>>33196739
I was thinking Mimikyu too, but then remembered its ability.

>>33196759
what?, what's wrong with it's ability?

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>>33196777
It's very overpowered for a starter, not to mention it being single stage.

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>>33196321
i'll keep posting what i have. Might not really be pmd but it gives me those vibes

>>33196966
>You have a decoy that absorbs 1 hit, it resets every time you move to another floor
that doesn't sound overpowered, in fact it sounds kinda ok-ish, especially with the amount of long range attacks that there were in super.
if anything the only op thing i could think about it is mimikyu being a ghost type, since it would give it immunity to normal and fighting type moves and probably the ability to go through walls, thought i doubt they would let it do that.

>not to mention it being single stage.

>like evolution played a big role in any game that wasn't super
>like we didn't know and already accepted that when picking it as our MC/partner
>like we give a fuck about our starters after finishing the game

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>>33197086
Not all ghosts go through walls in pmd, just imagine how hellish it would be if Drifblim could pass through walls. Also, they usually talk about evolution at some point

>>33197239
>Also, they usually talk about evolution at some point
yeah, and then they tell you that you can't evolve because some bullshit that doesn't get fixed until post game.

>>33197064
It's never ceases to amaze how forgettable Bunnelby is.

>>33196966
>sees pic
Why do I just feel sad all of the sudden? It's suppose to be cute, but why am I sad?

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>>33197386
Because you'll never play the game for the first time again.

>>33197403
How would you know if I've played it at all?

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>>33197428
You're in a PMD general, it's a safe assumption.

>>33197371
Who?

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>>33196966
>>33197403
I definitely miss the good days. It was kinda fun seeing all that happened. I'm really hoping for a new game at some point in the near future.

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>>33197542
Been getting the itch to replay Blue lately. Backed up my save on my comp and everything. Maybe when i get around to it I'll post about it here.

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>>33197560
>all those Explorer/Rescue Team playthroughs happened more than a year ago now
It still feels like it was yesterday.

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>>33197606
>spent basically an entire year playing almost nothing but PMD
>wrote a bunch of guides, playthroughs with edited starters, all that
>now there's nothing really left to do

Where do you even go from there?

>>33197643
Well Adventure Squad's still mostly undocumented, but I'm pretty sure nobody really cares about that game.

>>33197693
It's too hard to write a guide for a game when you can't read anything in the game. The fact that I was able to even manage menu translations is a miracle.

>>33196071
What would be the ideal PMD game if all we did was combine gameplay mechanics and story concepts (x betrays you, you went far from home to x at some point, etc.) from the existing games?
What new concepts, mechanics, and other tweaks would you add?

I would like to see a partner who has a fleshed out personality and a backstory. I would also like to have that partner actually be away from his hometown and reside in the game's base town, and at some point you and him/her visit his family and friends at his hometown.
I would also like to see IQs brought back, but instead of having separate IQ ranks for each individual, linear acquirement of skills, and slow grinding; there would instead be skill trees that you expand over time, and it is shared among everyone, but there would still be exclusive skills (such as Type Bulldozer) that individuals can pick to get first when they reach the rank.

>>33196321
Where did you get that?

>>33197738
i just want a GTI 2.0, but with all of it's gameplay shortcommings fixed, like text speed fixed, you can take multiple missions, you can start upgrading your buildings in the early game, more minigames, dungeon mysteriosity is available early in the game, more dungeon puzzles and gated danger zones areas and also they would include an actual post game this time

>>33197738
I'd like more of the minor side stories we got from the postgames, a little quest or two per legendary going along with the dungeons would make for a sizeable chunk of content at this point

I also want evolution to actually be a part of the main story, and not that digimon anime shit from Super
Them not doing it in any of the previous games is pure laziness on their part, that or some misguided attempt to keep your starter and partner as "cute kids" for the entire plot, which is honestly not necessary at all thematically in a competently written story

If someone were actually willing to put in the time, I feel like tertiary recruitable team members could also have more of a presence in the game, maybe with some animal crossing-style generic dialogue with different personality settings

To further the feeling of adventure, there should be more open ended puzzle/mystery stuff that doesn't hold your hand through it all and lets you figure stuff out on your own, almost like I swear the mainline series almost had at one point

>>33197738
>What would be the ideal PMD game
One with vore of course

>>33198165
>a Wailmer eats you and your partner and you have to journey back out of it
not a bad idea desu

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>Either bring me back me missing Time Cogs, OR FUCK OFF!

I have a challenge to you all. Play Rescue team with a Grass type partner, but turn Item Master off for both of you.

>>33198214
I hope it you exit the same way you came in

>>33197086
>>like evolution played a big role in any game that wasn't super
They tried to make it a postgame plot point in RT and Explorers.

>>33197643
There's always something to find out or document.

>>33197827
I agree with everything you've said except evolution. It is perfect the way it is, and I want them to be cute. Temporary evolutions are also better than the way Pokémon normally does it.

>If someone were actually willing to put in the time, I feel like tertiary recruitable team members could also have more of a presence in the game
I think I read that they did have some lines in RT sometimes.

>almost like I swear the mainline series almost had at one point
Uh?

>>33181832
Aren't charmander and squirtle reptiles? Why dp they have fur tufts?

>>33199123
because the people who drew them have a serve case of the autisms

>>33199146
>le ebin autism meme XDDDDD

>>33199123
Real answer: whoever drew them was either too dumb to realize that reptiles don't have hair, or too lazy to think about it.

>>33199156
Now THIS is autism.

>>33198954
>I want them to be cute.
>Temporary evolutions are also better than the way Pokémon normally does it
>>>/digimon/

>>33199448
Yes, and? That's a great thing Digimon has, and I'm glad PMD is like that, because while I like the evolutions I don't want them outside of battles, or at all. I'd rather have my cute little Pokémon being powerful and beating up the evolved ones if anything.

>>33199462
That's just really shit taste

>>33199491
not them, but no u

>>33199491
>not wanting muh overpowered shotas

bad idea: PMD game with season and time-dependent pokemon (and maybe time-dependent appearances, like grassy plains being full of snow during winter)

you'd be able to freely change time of day once you get the Alola duo and seasons with Deerling magicTM or something

>>33199523
"Child overcoming impossible odds and growing as a person as a metaphor for becoming an adult" is a trope for a reason, but it's incredibly played out
It also kinda loses its significance when that personal growth cannot possibly correspond to physical growth when physical growth would be expected
It's also just kinda shit design from a mechanical standpoint to finish the game and then shoot from the first evo to the third and then never speak again for reasons that are incredibly transparent to the player
PMD games are known for having good stories, and there's only so many good stories you can wring out of single theme that you refuse to explore to its fullest potential

>>33199543
>features unlocked upon recruiting certain legendaries
Could be cool.

>recruit Zygarde
>you can now locate all wandering Pokemon (assuming they keep the Connection Orb in)

>>33199598
>It also kinda loses its significance when that personal growth cannot possibly correspond to physical growth when physical growth would be expected
Not really. It doesn't have to be realistic.

>It's also just kinda shit design from a mechanical standpoint to finish the game and then shoot from the first evo to the third and then never speak again for reasons that are incredibly transparent to the player
>evolving

>>33199622
Just because you hate cooler/bigger pokemon and would prefer every game to be a transcription of The Rugrats Movie doesn't mean it's better
The player pokemon growing throughout the course of the game would objectively open up the game to better stories and make some events feel less retarded
It doesn't have to be """realistic""", but it needs to be internally consistent without constantly inventing increasingly complex contrivances for why things are the way they are, it's an attempt to maintain suspension of disbelief but after a certain point it has the opposite effect

>>33199663
>you hate cooler/bigger pokemon
Where did you get that from?

>It doesn't have to be """realistic""", but it needs to be internally consistent without constantly inventing increasingly complex contrivances for why things are the way they are
They don't even need to do that, just like they did in Gates to Infinity

Evolving during the plot doesn't actually improve anything except making you feel like they grew up because apparently that can't happen if they look the same.

>>33199663
Cute and strong at the same time is perfection.

>>33199678
It makes you recognize that they're tiny and weak
Which is a problem in a series where that is an objective measurement instead of just a subjective physical assessment
Which is why Super had to involve contrived digimon shit to get them to "grow up" for plot battles without permanently alienating all the self-inserting 8 year olds that think they're going to stay 8 forever

>>33197643
I had an idea to make a fanmade mystery dungeon game. But it's only an idea, because I just suck at programing and such. Isn't that the worst? You have tons of ideas but no way to follow up on them.

>>33199711
Except that's clearly not how it is.

>>33199713
I would if I fucking could

>>33199724
True, it could be that preserving the integrity of the 8 year olds was the only reason and they only contrived that bullshit because they just thought it was cool
But that doesn't make it any less contrived or bullshit

>>33199733
Wouldn't we all.

I'd love to contribute to a PMD fangame, but I really don't know what with. Maybe art, but I'm far from an excellent artist.

>>33199750
Are you perhaps missing the fact that I like it? Also, looking older is more of a consequence of time passing than anything else. It actually makes more sense in the postgame if you consider that the main game probably lasts like a few months? And in Super it makes sense because you aren't kids, anyway.

Some Pokémon don't even evolve anyway, so saying that evolution = getting older is kind of dumb regardless.

>>33197738
Found it on Tumblr
http://vtt.tumblr.com/tumblr_ot7lhpGSbI1s7xad2_720.mp4

>>33199778
I genuinely feel like more and better stories could be told if they could include time skips
>Some pokemon don't evolve anyway
Yeah, so obviously those pokemon wouldn't have to
>saying that evolution = getting older is kind of dumb
Why is it that you never see a first evo "adult" character?
How come the experienced teams that you're meant to look up to like Charm or ACT don't have any underevolved pokes? The earlier ones supposedly are no different in capability or theme from your perspective, so what's the deal with that?

>>33199825
It's to make it immediately apparent even if you're unfamiliar with how it works. Also there are some characters that don't seem to fit that.

>>33199773
>>33199713
>>33199733
>PMD engine never ever ever

>>33199911
If hopes and dreams could build it then it would've long been finished by now. Too bad things don't work that way.

>>33198165
>>33198214
>>33198606
>ywn explore the soft warm insides of a giant Pokemon with your partner.
There's really no point to living anymore

>>33199825
Past games seemed to have the idea that evolution usually relates to a Pokemon's age in RT and Explorers seemed to match up with their evolutions. Team ACT, the other teams that are shown off in RT, and the Guild are, for the most part, adults, and they tend to be middle or final stage Pokemon. The only exceptions to this are Diglett, who is a part of a two-stage line, and has a father who is a Dugtrio, and Bidoof, the youngest and least experienced of the guild.
Gates strayed from it a bit. Herdier, who is a middle stage Pokemon, is referred to as a grandfather, and most of the main cast is comprised of Pokemon that don't evolve or are already at their final stage. Super gets rid of the concept for the most part, as characters like Sunkern, Archen, Bunnelby and Swirlix are all considered adult age despite all of them being the first of their line. Children are still almost always first stages, however, there's Budew and her friends in Serene, the classmates, and all of the kids hanging out in Lively. Phanpy, Starly and Skiddo also all have visible parents that are in their evolved forms, in Starly's case his father is the mid-stage Staravia.

That said, anti-evolution fags have become outright obnoxious, even if they claim "it's just a meme" >>33183011

>>33201804
Was Gengar really supposed to be THAT old?

>claim "it's just a meme"
It's not a meme, it's the objectively right choice. If you want to be forced to evolve play the main games, PMD allows you to stay unevolved and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>33181832
This is a bomb ass movie poster

>>33201996
>PMD allows you to stay unevolved and there's nothing wrong with that
It is when the games entirely feature starters that have poor or uninteresting designs compared to their evolved forms
The only really good first stage poke they feature semi-consistently is Riolu, because it has the good parts of Lucario's design without being overly furfaggoty or meme'd into the ground

>>33201996
In Gengar's case, he's certainly older than the two heroes in RT, and also fits more due to the nature of it living in the shadows. He's a guy who ran away from his past betrayal and carries on in life by creating a petty gang.

And by anti-evolution fags being annoying, I'm referring to anyone who shits on for evolving their starter duo. It's not "objectively superior" to stay unevolved. Let other people do whatever they want.

>>33201804
>evolving

>>33202067
>stop playing the game differently!

>>33202059
>Let other people do whatever they want.
I do let people do whatever they want, you're the one trying to stop me from spreading the fact that not evolving is the objectively superior choice.

>>33202055
Riolu is, objectively, the best Pokémon, even though it is not my favourite.

>>33202088
>objectively
It's not, it's a subjective opinion. If you are going for objectives, then it would be better to evolve certain Pokemon, and leave others unevolved due to ingame viability. It would be much better to evolve your Charmander in RT to a Charizard, for example, due to its moveset and viability in Level 1 dungeons.

>>33202108
It's better to leave the starter unevolved and pick up another Pokémon in the same line and evolving it.

>>33202124
Functionally, it's the same in the first three games to use a starter or a standard recruit, and all that changes is the Pokemon that appears in the overworld. So what's wrong with people using an option that is given to them, to let them use a Pokemon they prefer?
And in the case of Super, you're better off using a starter than a connected Pokemon of that species, due to the break system.

>>33202146
>So what's wrong with people using an option that is given to them, to let them use a Pokemon they prefer?
Nothing, it's just inferior to the objectively better option.

>And in the case of Super, you're better off using a starter than a connected Pokemon of that species, due to the break system.
This is true.

>>33202158
You keep using the word objectively, but there are circumstances where evolved mons are objectively better ingame due to their movepools, or vice versa. Subjectively, you can say that all unevolved mons are the best, but that doesn't make it fact.

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The colored bow in Explorers is a one-time item, right? The stat boost is pretty pitiful compared to the other early-game bands you get.
I wish we would get a new game already, all that's left now are elitists bitching about how people play the game and fanmade stuff.

>>33202196
Yeah, one of a kind item. The Brown Bow, which you get from doing all the Mazes in the Dojo, is functionally identical

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>>33202196
>been using the Pink Bow for the entire game now
>tfw I never lose it when I get defeated
Luck, or is it programmed?

In any case, I'm stuck in Brine Cave 8F. The game forced me towards it before I had the chance to deposit all my money back after shopping. I wouldn't like losing it. If anyone could help, that'd be amazing.

>>33202929
Oof, I know that situation all too well. I lost most of my treasures in a similar fashion because I didn't realize that the Swap Shop could just take items directly from storage. Give me a few, I'll rescue you in no time.

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>>33204427
Aaaand done. Take care, anon.

>>33200050
It's our eternal wish, I'd say.

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>>33204576
Sorry for being so late, I went to sleep.
Thanks for the rescue!

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Page 9 bamp~u.
We're going to have to prepare dedicated bumpers for the possible incoming "it's fucking nothing"-storm tonight.

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>ywn be able to do stock-taking with your partner inside your base at Sharpedo Bluff

Replaying Sky. I totally forgot how goofy Palkia's reveal was.
>"hey so there's this pokemon that controls space that might have answers, too bad you'll never find him"
>that very night
>*teleports into your bedroom*

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>>33209119
>*teleports into your bedroom*
>''you want sum fuck?''

>>33209311
I bet he gives some good fuk with that phallic head of his

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>>33209311

VPMD >>33212653

WHY IS FURY ATTACK SO OP
WHY DOES IT ALWAYS LAND EVERY HIT WHEN AN ENEMY ATTACKS ME
WHY DOES IT ALWAYS MISS WHEN I USE IT
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>articuno uses powder snow
>one hits my partner and I
wew

I'm glad we have another form our Rockruff main character/partner won't evolve into. It makes not evolving even better.

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>>33213373
>an alternate form for a pokemon nobody cares about

hahahah it's fucking nothing

>>33213373
>orange

>>33213373
>wanting to evolve into that carrot-colored palette swap

>>33216699
reread the post

>>33217581
Oh sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic.

>>33213314
>>33212796
welcome to world of PMD, hope you enjoy the ride

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>>33212796
Sounds like that attack is causing you Fury.

>>33218019
Fury attack

>Want to play Explorers of Sky again
>No ROM of it
>Try to look for one
>Remember that GF had a huge hissy fit and threw C&D orders at people
>Now feel empty

>>33218760
I take it you didn't see my "exploration pack" in the op? The Mega link has what you're looking for.

>>33218760
>GF
You mean Nintendo

>>33218778

My bad. I've been up for around 20 hours so my mind is really fried, 10 of those hours being up on my feet all day. With no break. Never work fast food.

>>33218790
I shouldn't be up right now either. Have fun playing EoS, thought it'd come in handy someday to put all those files and stuff in one place.

>>33218808

A really good idea, I had some roms of fire red/emerald and the like, but they got corrupted somehow so I'm a bit stuck in that department. But for now I'm just glad to have EoS. Cheers mate.

>>33218760
When did they kill all the ROMs

>>33218867
About 2 months ago. Shit sucks.
I'm still looking for a reliable place to find them.

>>33219131
>>33218867
>>33218760
All DS roms (DeSMuMe or another emulator)
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/12213396/Pokemon-Games-Pack(Nintendo_DS)[CoolRom][NDS][NTSC-U][SergioZSR]#filelistContainer

All GBA roms (VBA or another emulator)
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4062207/ALL_(21)_Pokemon_Roms___Emulators_GBC__GBA__Nintendo_DS_ALL_WORK#filelistContainer

Super Mystery Dungeon + Gates to Infinity (Citra if your comp is good enough)
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/14184511/Collection_of_250_decrypted_3DS_ROMs_for_Citra_Emulator#filelistContainer

i had the stupid of headcanon that Gummis are like those beans from harry potter, minus the disgusting stuff

the pool of stuff depends on the gummi; for example red gummi would taste like a spicy food, grass gummi would probably taste like a fruit or vegetable, ground gummi like idk, hazelnut or something (ground stuff), gray gummi would probably taste and have texture of something "rocky"

>>33219510
Thank you so much for this.

I hope the next game has a mailman that isn't pelliper because it's a hideous flying toilet

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>>33223030
I agree that it would be interesting to see different species being used as mail carriers. There are definitely options for that sort of thing, with pic related being just a few.

>>33223030
the next mailman is Delibird

>>33223126
i'd be fine with all of these aside from the abomination in the bottom left.

>>33223030
>it's a hideous flying toilet
Sad but true.

>>33219634
cool

>>33223030
it's cool in that role and I like seeing it in the rt opening.

>>33223128
Pokémon Channel was nice

>>33223351
I still hate everything about the pokemon. Hopefully it gets trapped in a dungeon and has nobody rescue it so it has to pick Give Up and lose all its money.

>>33223401
>>33223030
>is a trash can
>can learn gunk shot via tutor
HMMMMM

I just realized the only reason Super was so advertised for having all of the legendaries is Hoopa. They did the same with ORAS, the film and pretty much everything else.

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4u

>BRT
>forgot to deposit money before fleeing the pokemon village
>7000 poke
>manage to get through lapis cave, fire mountain, and ice forest (playing in japanese, can't remember the english names) without dying
>now stuck against articuno
>have been cheesing it and resetting the game when I die
>literally can not beat it at my current level
>going to have to grind
>aka lose all my money and items
>11,000 poke
fuck me

>>33225022
should have used Skitty

>>33226301

no I should've used cyndaquil

>>33223030
>>33223126
In a fan game idea I made up, a mailman that gives you missions is an airheaded Furret who wants to be a mailman despite the fact they can't fly, so they run really fast to the point they tend to loose mail and have to run back to get it.

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>>33226461
Sounds cute

So, i started replaying blue rescue team, since the last time i played i think it was back in 2008, so i remember pretty much nothing at all other than having fun collecting pokemon for the friend areas.
I finished the digglet mission and so far the game is enjoyable but the story is just really... simple?
>Oh, i'm a pokemon now!?
>This is shocking!
>Also this pokemon is talking to me...
>Whatever *shrugs*
>Partner: Oh hey!, you can't just sleep outside, let me give you a nice house for free!
>Partner: Also, do you want to make a team with me?, no big reason, just asking
>yeah sure *shrugs*
>Partner: Hey you magnemite guys, wanna get in my team?
>Magnemite: Yeah sure!... oh wait, we don't have a place to stay that is close to your base... bye i guess
>*slowly floats away*
>Partner: Oh ok :/

It feels like it's trying to have you waste the least amount of time it can with the story and it's trying to get you back into the action as soon as possible, that's nice, but it feels weird for a PMD.

>>33226986
Well, R/BRT are the first PMD games. I'd say it's far weirder the other games are not like it.

>>33226986
The story of every PMD game is pretty simple. That's not really anything new.

>>Partner: Oh hey!, you can't just sleep outside, let me give you a nice house for free!
The wierd part about this is how partner insists on sleeping outside, presumably in his/her friend area.
>>Partner: Also, do you want to make a team with me?, no big reason, just asking
The reason was "I want to help people in need", just like in every other PMD game.
>>Magnemite: Yeah sure!... oh wait, we don't have a place to stay that is close to your base... bye i guess
That's just an introduction to friend areas. It illustrates (pretty well) in the story why you'd need them.

Just to point out a similar thing in explorers:
>We need a hidden place to sleep!
>Okay, let's sleep next to a busy town we'll have to sneak past every time we go in or out, in a very characteristic cliff-face that has totally hidden stairs leading down to it.

>>33227539
still better story than what main games do

>>33227539
>The story of every PMD game is pretty simple. That's not really anything new.
Yes, but future games made all of the dialogues longer and usually more detailed.

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rate my tufted OC

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>>33229616
7.8/10 not enough tufts
also you cannot fill stuff with colors

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>>33227539
>The reason was "I want to help people in need", just like in every other PMD game.
What i mean is that it's awfully plain, like that line is everything it says for the moment and it feels like it has no weight to it, the other partners had at least a little more of their hopes and dreams put into it.
>Explorers: i need you for i can't on my own, but with your help i will be able to finally muster the courage to do it
>Gates: you will be the first one to help me realize my dream of making a pokemon paradise for all of us
>Super: i really want to get out of this town, i need the urge to explore and have adventures!
>Rescue team: I like helping pokemon

Like, everything so far feels like a reason for the gameplay rather than gameplay being fit into the story.
Hopefully when the plot hits it will feel a little more deeper.
At least for the time being i'm really loving the opportunities the game give you to fuck around with your partner.

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>>33229645
fine

>>33229727
i see Loss

>>33229749
where do you see loss.jpg

>>33229713
>>Rescue team: I wanna be the best rescue team there ever was
Ftfy

>>33229713
>>Like, everything so far feels like a reason for the gameplay rather than gameplay being fit into the story.
Which is what every game should try to do and why Rescue Team is the best one despite its flaws.

>>33230048
this

>>33230048
eh, can't argue that
though with the PMD series, personally i value more story than gameplay

>>33230048
>flaws
>tfw everything related to recruiting all Pokemon
why

new thread?

>>33230528
New thread: >>33230771
Why don't you create the thread?