/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

I'm restarting after not getting too far in SMD
I remember all the plot to the point I got to
whyyyy cant I skip cutscenes I'm holding b as hard as I can but the text is so slow
I dont care about you pancham fuck off

>>33078043
>who let it die
sorry, i can't bump while i'm sleeping

>TotT: Outside of the starters, what mons would you want as player characters in PMD?
rockruff, tyroge, mienfoo, the ones in sky, etc also let us play as mid stages holy fuck

>>33078160
i think you can get custom savefiles if you wanna get where you were faster.

>>33078197
Or you could just make evolution not something you do AFTER everything is over in terms of story

>>33078160
On another note are progress devices worth it?

I dont think I used them before but they seem super useful albeit expensive

>>33078334
they're pretty useful in the post game, when you need to do dungeons where in the end you have to fight a boss or many in the case of the regi dungeon

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>>33078043
Friendly reminder that Pops is the best father in the entire pokemon franchise

>>33078448
It's a shame he didn't get more time to shine in the postgame considering he lost his kid.

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>>33078448
This. Carracosta best dad

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What did they mean by this?

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>a game where humans are very mysterious
>a pokémon created by humans
>firsthand experience with them
>never asked about them, never used to advance the lore, never anything interesting

why does pokémon as a series constantly and repeatedly shy away from things that are obvious but exciting?

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>>33079023
>he believes in humans

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Sprite games were the best

>>33079169
pokémon has among the best spritework in all of gaming

I mean, in PMD red/blue, there was Legends about Humans, There were old Human Ruins of a Lab and even a more or less working Powerplant. But only a Lab and a Powerplant, maybe Humans did seriously fuck up and created the planet of the pokemon? Like the planet of the Apes?

>>33079023
>time traveling Pokémon that has been to the past
>never gets asked about anything
It's like they're doing it on purpose. I mean, four games in and we're still no closer to finding out what happened to them.

>>33079203
>there are people who ACTUALLY think this

>>33079256
even games with good spritework neglect to make it consistent across the game

>>33079023
>>33079222
maybe, but then again, every game changes how humans work in the pmd universe, and even then, i'm not really that interested in a pmd where the humans are the main focus, if anything i play pmd because there's no human and pokemon are the focus.

>>33079169
the cinematics in GTI and Super were really cool though...

>>33079280
no one said make them the main focus. just that the one pokémon with a connection to them should have something to say about them when the most basic premise of the game is related to them.

>>33079297
>when the most basic premise of the game is related to them.
that's mostly for the first game though.
In darkness/time/sky the MC being a human literally holds no meaning, as the human was probably born and raised on that universe .in Gates, the human is from another world/universe, and in SMD, the human always lived in that world
for all that we know, humans in TDS and SMD are just incredible rare creatures

>>33078043
>who let it die
it's my fault
I was there
it was almost on page 9 and I said to myself "I'll bump it in a little bit!"
and then I didn't ;_;

>>33079113
>he believes in fairy types

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I want to replay PMSD but I don't know what starters I should use. So far i've done Riolu & Fennekin and Cyndaquil & Riolu.

What's the difference between Four-leaf cookie and Mega donut? Their description is the exact same, but one is more expensive than the other.

>>33080398
Redpill me on big pokemon. They cause such a mess if you bring them on a full team, but alone they are fucked because they are big targets without the stats to reflect it, plus the zoomed in camera from the 3ds era makes it easy af for enemies to sneak up to them. Am I doing it wrong or were they simply implemented badly?

>>33080521
>>33080398
Sorry, not meant for you.

>>33079346
The only reason the MC was human in Sky was because they wanted to set up the twist and justify why you aren't recognized.

Why did they get rid of the friend areas? They were so comfy...

>>33081323
They're counterproductive because they unsimplify team management and force you to spend currency just to be able to recruit certain Pokemon.

>>33081354
Plus the larger number of Pokémon. Yep, I guess you're right but damn, the visuals and the music were awesome

>>33081413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7JpJO8W_iA

Speed this up to 1.25x or 1.5x

>>33081441
Sounds awesome, this one and forest are my favs

>>33080422
Donut is probably more likely to boost more stats at once but unless you're trying to reset for HP boosts you're better off with vitamins.

>>33080521
They have better range on their attacks and can see an extra tile farther. They make nice bosses but that's about it. The AI just doesn't know how to handle a giant mon in the party.

Things that piss you off:
>bring back worlds from previous games
>replace EVERY SINGLE dungeon with random fancy-sounding OC shit with nothing going for them
>even remove legendaries from their iconic dungeons for no reason
Why even bother bringing them back if they are gonna change them beyond recognition? What was the drive behind this? It would have been less work if they reused a few of their older ideas. I'm not saying adding new dungeons isn't great, but at least keep some landmarks so that I'm not completely alienated.

>>33081354
>They're counterproductive because they unsimplify team management
Not true. They aren't forced to implement them in the exact same way as they were in RT.

>force you to spend currency just to be able to recruit certain Pokemon.
At least having money was meaningful. It's still a good idea that could be reworked (examples: buying the friend area makes them more likely to appear, or you can recruit them even if you don't have their area, but it's harder and they feel uncomfortable, which brings some disadvantages)

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How does it feel knowing Gates outsold PSMD

>>33082966
fine, SMD barely tried.
it's biggest salepoint was ''you can catch them all!''

>>33082966
good
too bad it didn't do better than Sky though

>>33082966
Of course it did, it had more time.

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When do you think we'll be getting a new PMD game?

>>33086332
Three years after Super.
Which is next year already.
Which means it will be announced in just a little more than 5 months.

>>33079023
Humans are extint, not non existance. I don't think that man-made pokemon are immortal except Mewtwo, maybe. There are more than one Geneset so they repruduce too. The ones that could actualy know about humans are legendaries such Arceus or the Creation Trio and for the most part Legendaries and Mystics are Hermits

>>33086332
Not soon enough

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>>33078777
Trips of Truth

>>33078490
Yeah, I wish he was involved in the Resurrection ark.

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>>33086378
Art bump for best dad

>>33087437
I still can't believe that this movie is an actual thing that exists.

>>33078777
>>33086378
>>33087759

What's the weird obsession this artist has with Nuzleaf literally fucking everyone? Japs usually have the best art but they can be even more autistic than us

Who let this die?

>>33089591
Farfetch'd. Will you accept a mission to go and catch him? We can't let such a criminal get away with it.

>>33078490
I want to cover Genesis songs with him

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>>33078043
>TotT: Outside of the starters, what mons would you want as player characters in PMD?

I will reply with this until it happens.

>>33089591
When in doubt, blame those assholes in Team Skull

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>tfw the thread died a few days ago
>couldn't remake the thread because making new threads keeps fucking up for me

I don't know what to do, it just keeps loading endlessly or flashes "Updating Index"

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>>33095305
YAMEROOOO

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>>33095305
*welcome to my home*
*teleports away while laughing*

No one posted /vpmd/?
>>33095267

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>>33078043
>TotT: Outside of the starters, what mons would you want as player characters in PMD?
I want my Vulpix back, damnitall
I'm tired of all these goddamn starter pokemon hogging the limelight, and the "super special" pokemon like Riolu and Pikachu being to obnoxiously in front makes me angry

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>>33096659
Don't worry, you'll get Alolan Vulpix in the next game.

>>33096670
>A-Vulpix

even better

>>33096670
I wish.

>>33096659
Hey now, Riolu is one of the cutest. You'd have a point if they put Lucario.

>>33078043
>TotT: Outside of the starters, what mons would you want as player characters in PMD?

Bring Cubone, Machop, Shinx and Vulpix back, add Litwick, Espurr and Fomantis. Remove Riolu

>>33096784
Bring back Psyduck, Vulpix, Phanpy (with buffs), Shinx, Cubone, and Axew.
Add Meinfoo and A-Vulpix.

>>33078043
I wish they made Zorua a starter.
Wanted to mention something from gen 7 but i forgot all the pokemon from there.

>>33097102
>Wanted to mention something from gen 7 but i forgot all the pokemon from there.
Pancham, my good man, that or phantump, they both make good choices for ''kid pokemon''

>>33097197
Those are all gen 6 you dummy

>>33097245
shiet, i don't know what happened there
well then, we obviously are gonna have Rockruff and maybe stufful, also it would be pretty neat but very unlikely to get mimikyu as an option, it would be funny to have it so we have the pikachu and ''pikachu''

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So /pmdg/, how do you want to see the new mons implemented into the next Mystery Dungeon? I want to see a plot about the UBs invading since SM barely delivered in that regard.

inb4 there isn't a next mystery dungeon

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>>33098702
Not the picture I meant to post but whatever

>>33098702
this shit looks gay as fuck, wtf m8

>>33098767
>he doesn't exclusively watch meme porn
biggest shiggy of my life tbqh

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>20 posts a day

>>33098702
The idea seems too good for them to not use it.
Ultra Wormholes take you elsewhere and give you amnesia, and Fallers attract UBs, bringing the plot to you.
Now all we need are those special UB boss fights anons came up with several threads back.

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Which one of you guys did this?

https://projectpokemon.org/forums/forums/topic/40763-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-gate-of-the-shooting-star/

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>mfw me and the friend that i always named my PMD partner after is on good terms with me again
>mfw i can play Super and name my partner after him without feeling weird or depressed each time i see the name

I'm picking Froakie for me and Chespin for him.

>>33100185
even if the developer was a 14 years old who didn't seem to know how to manage his business properly, it's still a shame that we will never get to see his probably really messy game done.
Though this will be a good lesson for him to NEVER store the files for whatever you're working on in just one place.

>>33100185
>the total amount of disk space needed to download the game is13.94 gigabytes. To run the game you need at least 1.90 megabytesRAM. And to save the game you need about 20 gigabytes disk space. You will also need internet for some features like friend code gifting.

>He's fucking redistributing all the XML files for the sprites you get when you unpack them from the game using the only tool available for the purpose, instead of extracting and re-compressing just the necessary parts
>He's fucking COPYING all of that shit into your SAVE FILE because "muh global variables"
Did you really expect anything to come from this trainwreck on conception? Even the mod was giddy to finally have a reason to shut it down.

Please just contribute to one of the two projects we have here that are actually serious about making an engine to base a PMD game on. One of them is called Eternal Wish iirc.
And please, in the future, ignore all Game Maker kiddies. We even had one getting his cock sucked in here for MOVING RED CUBEZ OMG. Competent Game Maker devs are rare. These people just want attention, and have absolutely nothing to give back for it, except a promise that is broken as soon as they realize doing advanced shit in Game Maker is a fucking nightmare unless you know what you're doing.

>>33101474
>MOVING RED CUBEZ
huh?

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>>33078043
Which partner should I pick if I wanna play as Froakie?

>>33103507
When in doubt, pick Chespin. Very strong, very cute, and fits the partner's personality perfectly.

>>33102014
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/24776036/#24777268
This was pretty much all I could quickly find. If you go back a few threads, you can see he even OP'd a pmdg or two.
Not nearly as bad as the other guy. This guy wasn't too annoying about it, but it was a load of nothing with minor dick nibbling. At least he seemed slightly competent.

>>33101474
>projects here
>no information in the OP

>>33082966
It feels fine to me. I found Super to be disappointing, and I actually prefer Gates.

Sure, Gates had less Pokemon, but I found its characters to be much more memorable, and I hated Super's new recruitment system.

>>33104418
Here's an archive of the OP before they removed it
https://archive.is/936Cp

>>33104418
I don't think any of the projects here are very active. I made a dungeon generation algorithm but I haven't touched it in a few months

>>33080409
Oshawott & Chespin

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>>33100953
>this will be a good lesson for him to NEVER store the files for whatever you're working on in just one place

In their OP, they mention they've
>once again lost my project because I store them on my website.
>again
This implies it's happened before and they were too stupid to not do it again.

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>>33105544
>This implies it's happened before and they were too stupid to not do it again.
the only reason i'm calling him names is because he's a child, and children are dumb, but man, my patience is growing thin

>>33105774
not calling him names*

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>those pokemon stuck with hindering abilities without anything to make them good in pmd

How do we fix PMD Slaking/Regigigas/Archaeops?

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>>33106810
Create an item that suppresses the abilities of the holder with a few exceptions (just like Gastric Acid). The holder can also choose to throw the item, which if it hits a Pokemon, that Pokemon's abilities become supressed until the condition is somehow cured (such as by Heal Seed or Reviver Seed) or moves to a new floor.

I have thought of other items. In the maingame Pokemon series I thought of an item or ability that negates abilities and effects caused by Pokemon entering, such as Spikes, Sticky Web, Intimidate, Forewarn, or Anticipate, but not Pressure or Mold Breaker since those are constant. pic related

I thought of "TM" wands that act as a move in item form. When you use these wands, they cause the move it has to be executed, such as Thunderbolt, Heal Pulse, Light Screen, or Flamethrower. These are useful because:
>they essentially act as a fifth move. A Pokemon can use more of certain moves
>Pokemon can use moves that they can't learn

They aren't perfect though:
>charges are not unlimited in stacking. If you collect a number of wands +1 greater than the PP of the actual move that said wand replicates, a new wand will be made instead as though the 99 limit was hit.
>no STAB or move boosting ability stacking as the move doesn't actually come from the Pokemon, nor does it really count as a move
>the wands are not as numerous or diverse in movepool as TMs. There might be 20 wand types at most, and even then I doubt it
>they're not common and are not cheap

late bump

The only good thing Sky added was Igglybuff the Prodigy.
>SE 1, 3, and 4 all focus on bland, basic bitches
>SE 5 not only makes Grovyle even more boring than before (going from typical mysterious man to typical shonen protagonist) and completely destroys the whole point of the sacrifice, nothing about the future world is at risk at the end of the day and everyone's spared just because
>Spinda's Cafe casualizes Explorers even more, now you can get incredible stat boosts before Hidden Land
>Shaymin Quest is horrid filler, and can't be skipped at all
>lookalike items are made out to be excessively obvious, so that nobody would ever be fooled by it. Just having the spelling mistake would be enough. The items are outclassed by other ones or are outright useless so purposefully having one around is a waste
>Shaymin and Giratina's new forms are shoddily handled. No Rotom forms.
>absolutely no main storyline changes, so what was called generic/boring/weird in TD still applies to Sky
>new protagonists are either shit or completely outclasses the standard lineup in every way, there's no inbetween
>Egg move protags also give players good moves off the bat instead of working for it
>Destiny Tower is useless and the reward is glitched
>more gameplay casualization by having dead players lose only half their money, and making the Secret Bazaar

>>33107625
The Space Globe isn't glitched, it just ups the base power of moves. In a game where it barely does anything.

>>33107625
There's a difference between causalization and quality of life changes.

>>33107718
QoL is TD's ability to feed items to anyone after RT only let you throw it to them, or forced you to switch leaders to eat. Losing only a portion of your money because you suck instead of taking all of it is being a casual.

Post your favorite track from MD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PqlOkxcI-8

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>>33107726
>money
>hard to get

>>33107625
t. Superfag
Fuck off with your "Explorers plot is bad and generic" meme, your game's even more of a clusterfuck

>>33107625
>SE 5 not only makes Grovyle even more boring than before (going from typical mysterious man to typical shonen protagonist) and completely destroys the whole point of the sacrifice, nothing about the future world is at risk at the end of the day and everyone's spared just because
>Shaymin Quest is horrid filler, and can't be skipped at all
These are the only ones that actually bother me. The rest is easy enough to ignore (though I liked some of the features listed, like the Cafe) but man, fuck SE5 so hard, and fuck the Sky Peak.

>>33107726
Losing money isn't exactly a problem, more of an annoyance than anything.

>>33078816
Pls respond

>>33107625
I disagree with most of what you've said but
>lookalike items are made out to be excessively obvious, so that nobody would ever be fooled by it. Just having the spelling mistake would be enough. The items are outclassed by other ones or are outright useless so purposefully having one around is a waste
I bet they're way better in Japanese.

>>33107625
>>33107826
Shaymin's quest is one of the most enjoyable parts of the game you faggots.

>>33103196
>ywn have an evil otter friend who'll turn you into otter

>>33107889
>I bet they're way better in Japanese.

オレンのみ is Oran Berry
オレソのみ is Oren Berry

>>33107910
Looks like they are, indeed.

>>33107904
>just graduated from the guild and get a strange message that you're a spacial anomaly
>instead of doing anything about it, let's lounge at the Cafe and then enter the most boring segmented dungeons that are there for shitty exposition about characters you never spoke to before, and will never speak to again
No. It, along with the garbage that is Aegis Cave can fuck off

>>33107918
no

>tfw so many pokemon are missing from the older games and it makes it hard to go back to

Waiting to get specific pokemon sucks, what if the next game had a way to get them earlier?

A mix of the recruitment methods wouldn't hurt. You can get them through missions or by fighting them.

Or maybe putting out a wanted ad on the town square's message board or something. You could put up "Wanted: Fairy-type pokemon for a rescue team!" or something like that on the board for a fee, and you'd get say, a Ralts or a Cutiefly that way. Fully evolved pokemon would probably be too overpowered, though, maybe you'd have to unlock that feature.

>>33107918
Kys, they are meant to be taken on my different members of your team. The MCs do their worrying about their new personal problems while the recruits do the exploring.

>>33103643
>mew is chespin
Nice try Chespin. Go back to your pleb status. You don't even qualify as a starter!

>>33107625
>wanting Grovyle to die
Kys yourself

>>33108673
>asspulls are a good thing as long as my husbado gets to live another day
You first, faggot. Him surviving removes all the impact of everything he's done. The fact that he was willing to risk his, and everyone else in the future's lives for everyone else's happiness was the whole point. Everyone living because "lol arceus" is bullshit and you know it.

>>33109035
I can't believe they botched that ending. It was perfectly bittersweet and had real consequences for the first time in a game where normally everything has to go back to the status quo so you can continue playing past the credits. It was so tacked on that I'm sure the writers weren't on board.

>>33107625
Can we make this into one of those ''Problems with X Pokemon game'' images please?, we already have one for rescue team

>hydreigon cameo in Super
That's sweet.

>>33108654
>hating chespin

some pleb tier taste my dude

>>33107910
How do the item descriptions compare between English and Japanese? In English they add an ellipsis and question mark at the end, but is that also present in the Japanese version?

>>33110887
I don't know, i can't actually read japanese and haven't played much of Adventure Squad

>>33078043
I tried to get into SMD but could never get past how weak moves were compared to EoS. Is it true that Fug, Deoxys, and Mega Mewtwo stop the planet from rotating though? Someone told me that actually happened.

>>33110966
No, but they do ''help'' you fight the bad guy.
The only thing that i liked from Super's story other than hanging out with the school kids, was how over the top and hype the ending was, it pretty much goes full anime

>>33111013
Oh, it was something to do with Dark Matter's pull, right? So how much of this
>http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/and-the-world-goes-round-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon.33405/
Is bullshit? Bare with me here.

>>33110678
Was he breaking the 4th wall and talking about the player, or did he recognize the Super PC from ancient times?

>>33107625
>SE 1, 3, and 4 all focus on bland, basic bitches
As opposed to the partner in the main story?

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How and why did Super Mystery Dungeon go from zero to turbo schlock in one scene?

What were they thinking?

>>33109368
Most of that is retarded. We could make one though.

>>33111553
Worst part is that it literally achieved nothing, since they failed, yet Arceus renders it moot right afterwards and teleports them to the tree anyway.

>>33111368
What if it's both?

When is the next PMD game?
I want to be able to slap Hydro Pump on everyone on another game.

>>33111605
Super's PC had an explicit backstory while Gates's was explicitly the player, so it likely can't be both

>>33111636
next year

>>33111677
It could be both, because he knows it's always just you.

>>33110966
I didn't think they were that weak. And you get not-useless teammates, emeras, alliances, and wands to help you out.

>>33111139
I don't really care to read through all that autism but
>the Tree of Life was said to somehow maintain the Earth's path around the Sun
>Dark Matter sort of infected the tree and weakened it over time causing the Earth to drift towards the Sun
>Later Dark Matter uproots the tree and flies off with it
>legendaries stop its ascent for a while so you can kick its ass
That guy's argument doesn't really work because the Earth has that energy by virtue of its rotation. It doesn't need some source providing it all the time to keep rotating, so saying that's somehow the Tree's maximum output is real dodgy.
The premise is also dodgy for implying the Tree does something like that but that just means any attempt to apply real physics to it is useless.
Also it doesn't seem that anyone there knows how energy works.

>>33111767
I'll have to eventually try SMD again then. What's the most busted partner if I'm rolling with Totodile?

And yeah, Narutoforums/vs wiki tend to be extremely bad at actually figuring that stuff out. A lot of it is extreme reaching and fanwank. Fun to read if you're bored though.

>>33111791
Chespin is always the most busted partner, no exceptions.
Though if you want someone different Fennekin or Bulbasaur could be good

>>33111861
What makes Chespin so good?

>>33111932
He gets Rollout and Pin Missile early on and PMD multi-hits are ridiculous.

>>33111932
Never used it but I'm sure that Rollout is (one of) the main reason(s)

>>33111932
>pin missile is ranged and hits several times
>multihit moves are good in pmd
>rollout is 5 hits if they all hit
>Better Odds+that one emera that lets you attack twice in one turn=10 hit Rollout
>can instagib stuff like Kyurem and Primal Groudon
>adorable

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>Get an Awakening Emera
>No Mega Evolvable Pokemon in my team
Always happens, I know for the most part it's actually a hindrance with the berserk status, but I'd like to use it every now and then.

>>33113675
Berserk being a thing was the stupidest shit, there was no reason for it to happen

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New chapter 16 of thing people read sometimes

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7771954/chapters/26089287

>>33115809
Fuck off with your stupid fucking forced meme. Hop on an Explosion Trap about 50 times and then jump into a Pitfall Trap.

>>33115809
>playing babby's first furry wet dream instead of Super
>>>/d/eviantArt

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>when a pokemon you want to use in Blue is in Wish Cave

The only Mystery Dungeon I ever played was Blue back on DS

Super Mystery Dungeon worth it?

>>33116900
Yes. Play Sky too.

>restarted game because it's been too long
>I want to have the test recommend me something neato
>no matter what I choose I keep getting Tepig
>literally only Tepig like why tf are you broken, there are 19 other results and you're telling me I'm not getting any others?

I'M ACTUALLY GETTING REALLY PISSED RIGHT NOW. GEN 5 STARTERS WERE A MISTAKE FUCKING S T O P

>>33117084
>it gave me an entirely new blurb
>it goes to Tepig. This is the third blurb I got for him
*silent screaming intensifies*

>>33117140
But anon... Maybe you really ARE a Tepig. There's no use hiding from your true self.

>>33117084
>>33117140
You are a Tepig. Move on.

>>33107905
>ywn have an otter friend who'll turn you gay for him

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>you can't give the pokemon you've connected with a friendly nickname
Damn. I like feeling like they're my proper friends.

>>33117552
Ramhax them a nick

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>>33117084
>>33117140
>>33117160
you know what to do

>>33119624
Actually, I don't. Care to lighten me up?

>>33111767
It was dumb and triggering as hell because it implied Xerneas was more powerful than Arceus.

VPMD >>33121939

>Nexus gets fucking destroyed
>nobody seems to give a shit
I thought this thing was important? Why does nobody care?

>>33120568
I laughed at this pic. Saved.

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>played Red back on release
>took Totodile and Chikorita
>evolve both instantly after the story ends
>5 minutes after evolving realize I prefer the pre-evos more

Anybody else get their opinions on Pokemon drastically changed because of PMD?

>>33123432
>5 minutes after evolving realize I prefer the pre-evos more
The same thing happened to me. I immediately regretted it.

>>33124072
It wasn't even just pre-evos of the starters, it was just them in general. Losing the portraits was just the icing on the cake

>>33124122
>losing portraits
Who gives a shit, once you reach the postgame your team becomes a bunch of emotionless robots anyway

>>33120568
I'll never use my stacks of itemizer orbs on my teammates that's what the volunteers at the dojo are for, also saved.

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I need help. Bump

>>33125637
>Wii U

>>33125660
Look, what do you want me to do?

Okay, I've never played Sky before (but I have played Time), and not knowing what happens in the special episodes and post-game (I never went into post-game in Time) has bothered me for too long now.
Today, I've decided I'm going to try and finish the main game as quick as possible. Any tips/things I should keep in mind if I want to finish fast? Any new features I can use in my favor such as that spinda cafe thingy?

>>33125797
Using gummis in cafe will always boost a stat. You'll benoverpowered by endgame.
Cheese bosses by using items like Vile Seeds, then use Stun Seeds, then raise attack either through moves or Violent Seeds. You should easily kill any boss except for the hordes.
Phanpy is shit. Never use Eevee as a partner.
Only one Special Episode is any good. The rest are shit, revolve around shit characters, or have a terribly unsatisfying ending.

>>33125797
>DO NOT USE PHANPY, and DO NOT USE EEVEE PARTNER
>eat Gummis through Spinda's Cafe
>Skitty+Vulpix is the most OP vanilla starter combo
>if you're a faggot you could wonder mail golden seeds

>>33125808
>Never use Eevee as a partner

Oh shit, I'm in Crystal Cave, should I restart now?

>>33125637
Never mind, I'm gonna start over

>>33125660
nothing wrong with that, I wish I got one

>>33125954
And you haven't noticed the problem yet? Use the mod that disables its ability

>>33125797
Riolu is literally crutch-tier.

>>33125808
Also, this guy is right, cept for his spoiler. Remember to not listen to /vp/ when it comes to opinions.

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>>33125797
If you want to speed through the game, use this duo. It cannot possibly go faster and easier than this duo, PMD Drifloon is the most brokenly overpowered pokemon to ever exist, at least as far as PMD is concerned

>>33126120
Forgot to note that this requires save editing

>>33126120
Yeah, no. I want to play legit.

>>33125808
>>33125828
>>33126084
While I want to do it quick, I don't want it to be mind-numbingly easy. I'll just go with whatever starter the quiz yields me. Thanks for the tips!

>>33126152
>tfw first result is Phanpy
I guess I'll be soft-resetting, but what's exactly wrong with it?

>>33126197
everything except being cute

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don't let it die again faggots

>>33096670
that's actually better desu

>>33127624
Sorry I was fapping to pokeporn

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>go into dungeon with severly underleveled team
>somehow get past some floors
>then just get fucked and can't save myself (losing valuable items in the process)
i don't know how i could fuck up this badly.
I'm yuro btw

>>33127989
Haven't done a rescue in ages, especially since the region lock. Comin'!

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>>33127989
There you go!

>>33128187
thanks dude!

>>33126197
>zero stab outside of EQ which kills your partner
>very tiny movepool

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>>33129051
>Stayaway Orb
>Orb
[TRIGGERED]

Can someone in Europe rescue me? I'm in Revelation Mountain and so close to getting to the top. Never done this before, so I'm not 100% on what to do.

>>33129236
Yeah, sure. Just post the QR code you get here

>>33125637
>DS game on Wii U

How?

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>>33129246
Here you are. I hope it doesn't flip.

>>33129347
Dammit.

>>33129347
You sure your game is european? That's not working for me
Anyone else want to try?

>>33129392
I mean, I got it from FreeShop, but it might be American now that I think about it. It's been a while since I downloaded it.

>>33126084
>he liked Sunflora's SE
>he liked SE5's ending

>>33129116
Bow down to your new master Drifblim.

>>33129164
>games before Super dont exist now

>tfw if you go to marowak dojo during special episode 1, before getting the map, you can enter, and marowak will tell you it just collapsed, giving you a reviver seed
I love little details like this. Are there more such things that can only happen at a certain point in time? Little dialogues are interesting too. I'm in love with Team Tasty...

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Repost. I think my game is American.

pls help, thank you.

>pelliper keeps shoving mission requests to go to Tiny Woods into the box

I hope that flying toilet chokes on that mail.

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>>33129744

>>33130075
Thank you, Anon!

Reminder that if either the person asking to be rescued or the one that is rescuing has CFW, all they need to do to have the QR of the other region is to download the other version of the game and swap the savefiles

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Managed to figure out some addresses for starters in Chou Fushigi no Dungeon! I'll keep looking around for some more, like pre-evo slots, the third teammate's, and Pelipper Island's addresses.

0x9CCC5C - first Pokemon
0x9CCD60 - second Pokemon

>>33130613
That only applies to American and European versions of the game. For some reason, the Japanese version is saved differently so you'd get a corruption message.

>>33130693
>PCFD
you mean pokedancho

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>>33130834
Yeah, I know most games are referred to as Pokedan when discussed, but I keep most of the Japanese PMD files on my computer as PFD to match up with PMD.

>>33130693
>>33130864
It's been too long, Pooch

>>33130693
>the third teammate's
You probably just need to add 104 to the one of the second Pokémon, considering the difference between the first and the second one is 104. Which is interesting I guess, because in the European and American versions they're 108 bytes instead. I wonder what kind of info those additional 4 bytes hold. And I guess this is the kind of stuff that makes the save formats different, too.

This is just a wild guess: what if the 4 bytes are just part of the Pokémon's name? I think it makes sense, because non-Japanese names tend to be longer.

I really wonder what that sound effect used by the Japanese version is supposed to be, and why they didn't use the usual one.

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Got the third Pokemon, going to try looking for the Pelipper Island values to make swapping partners there possible.

9CCE64 - third Pokemon

>>33130911
You were right on that, but I tested it out when Goomy was around to make sure.

>>33131461
The home menu sound effect? I think it's the sound that's used when you connect with another Pokemon.

>>33130901
Well, it hasn't been that long!

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Here's the Pelipper Island adresses!
0x9CD280 - first (Pelipper Island)
0x9CD384 - second (Pelipper Island)
0x9CD488 - third (Pelipper Island)


>>33131090
Probably not, since I was able to do this. Normally the name limit is 6 max, but longer names are supported.

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2409/
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2410/
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2413/
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2414/
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2415/
hey wow the chinese are cool

>>33131678
>Still no Adventure Squad translations

i know they're not that good but i still want it to happen

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>>33131748
>wish granted, they get translated
>into Chinese

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>>33131793

>>33131678
Does this mean people were just bullshitting when they said RT was impossible to hack?

>>33131998
Yes, of course.

>>33132009
I've been lied to

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I've made a comparison. All of the moves and stats are the same. I named both of them "Torchi" but it didn't matter because they're still different.

>>33131998
Everything is possible to hack, but changing the text is nothing compared to actually changing anything else in the game. It's just fucking hard.

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>>33096784
>>33096858
>no Payday Meowth
D I S G U S T I N G

You can't increment your PPs in Super, right?

>>33133022
>PP-Ups
>move levelling
Uh, no?

>>33133650
I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks.

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How many dungeons are left in the world where you're turned to stone? I just met up with Mawile and Dedenne after barely making it through Abyssal Badlands and have one Reviver Seed left. I just want to finish and get to a Kecleon Shop, this is stressful.

>>33133782
just use Pelipper Island lol

Japanese addresses
[0x9CCC5C (species of Pokémon 1)]
[+08] 0x9CCC64 - Pokémon 1 move 1
[+0C] 0x9CCC68 - Pokémon 1 PP of move 1
[+14] 0x9CCC70 - Pokémon 1 move 2
[+18] 0x9CCC74 - Pokémon 1 PP of move 2
[+20] 0x9CCC7C - Pokémon 1 move 3
[+24] 0x9CCC80 - Pokémon 1 PP of move 3
[+2C] 0x9CCC88 - Pokémon 1 move 4
[+30] 0x9CCC8C - Pokémon 1 PP of move 4
[+48] 0x9CCCA4 - first letter of name of Pokémon 1

All of this is structured in the same way in the American version (tested on the first Pokémon), and probably European as well (haven't tested yet).


I made a simple program to find all of the above values for the other 2 Pokémon slots as well. It should also work for the Pelipper Island ones and the other regions, but I don't want to check right now.

more Japanese addresses
9ccd68 - Pokemon 2 move 1
9ccd6c - Pokemon 2 PP of move 1
9ccd74 - Pokemon 2 move 2
9ccd78 - Pokemon 2 PP of move 2
9ccd80 - Pokemon 2 move 3
9ccd84 - Pokemon 2 PP of move 3
9ccd8c - Pokemon 2 move 4
9ccd90 - Pokemon 2 PP of move 4
9ccda8 - first letter of name of Pokemon 2

9cce6c - Pokemon 3 move 1
9cce70 - Pokemon 3 PP of move 1
9cce78 - Pokemon 3 move 2
9cce7c - Pokemon 3 PP of move 2
9cce84 - Pokemon 3 move 3
9cce88 - Pokemon 3 PP of move 3
9cce90 - Pokemon 3 move 4
9cce94 - Pokemon 3 PP of move 4
9cceac - first letter of name of Pokemon 3

I'd post the same addresses for the American and European versions, but I'll just post the source for now. I'll just add them to the Pastebin page once I organize hem a bit better.

There's some more data near the moves, probably related to the level of the move.
The Pokémon's stats seem to be stored elsewhere. The held item is probably specified along with the data of all of the items in the bag (that's what it's like in GtI at least, I lost the addresses though)

#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
int i = 0x000000; // address of the species of the Pokemon

printf("%x - Pokemon 1 move 1\n%x - Pokemon 1 PP of move 1\n%x - Pokemon 1 move 2\n%x - Pokemon 1 PP of move 2\n%x - Pokemon 1 move 3\n%x - Pokemon 1 PP of move 3\n%x - Pokemon 1 move 4\n%x - Pokemon 1 PP of move 4\n%x - first letter of name of Pokemon 1\n", i + 0x8, i + 0xc, i + 0x14, i + 0x18, i + 0x20, i + 0x24, i + 0x2c, i + 0x30, i + 0x48);
}

>>33129287
They're released as a part of the Virtual Console service. You can also inject whatever DS game you want if you mod your Wii U.

>>33134162
You could put that on an online compiler with some usage instructions for most people, who don't really have a C compiler around for funsies.

How do the newer mystery dungeon games hold up? I remember enjoying blue rescue team and explorers of sky way back and have been getting back into pokemon stuff recently. Are they worth checking out?

>>33135023
Gates to infinity has a pretty good story, it has a lot of new features, such as base building and moves leveling, multiplayer and others, but it has really slow text and it's really easy, also it has no post game and it's limited to only gen V pokemon with a few exceptions.

Super has probably the best gameplay of all the games, has almost every pokemon up to gen 6 and it's pretty challenging, but the story is weak and messy, it offers nothing else other than dungeon exploring and it has the break system which is basically ''X pokemon will take a break from time to time and you can't use it''.

i would say they're still worth checking out if only because they're still mystery dungeon games and they have pretty cool moments here and there.

I just reached Chapter 21 in Super and my character and Partner are both level 23. How fucked am I? Should I grind?

>>33135787
Alright, I'll make sure to check them out. Also not sure where to ask as they dont seem to have a general but are the newer pokemon ranger games, shadows of Almia and guardian signs any good?

>>33136016
haven't played them myself, but i heard both are good, one of those i heard really good things, so i want to try them myself.

>Also not sure where to ask as they dont seem to have a general but
it's because that franchise is dead

>>33136007
That's pretty average, you should be ok

>Should I grind?
not really possible

>>33136016
>Shadows of Almia and Guardian Signs
Both of them are MILES better than the first. They removed the retarded capture system where you had to start over if your chain broke, and replaced it with a health bar. Both of them have a much better story, and much more to do. Less linearity, especially.
Shadows of Almia has a pretty cool map, and really cool locations you won't forget easily. Guardian Signs is kind of like Alola in the map and legendary department, has Ukelele Pichu, soaring and a multiplayer mode story (good luck playing it by yourself, since it's literally impossible past a certain point).
If you can modify your save, injecting the downloadable missions for both games is definitely worth it (if at all possible, I haven't checked).
It's been too long for me to remember the stories and valorate them properly. I remember the first ranger even less, but for what I remember, it was linear, boring and had nothing to do after you beat it. Both sequels completely blow it out of the water.

>>33136359
>>33136051
>>33135787
Thanks for the advice anons, looking forward to playing these now.

I coped my Blue save off of my cart, how do i play this savefile on Desmume?

>>33136503
File > Import Backup Memory
Make sure the ROM's the right region

Who is the worst PMD character and why is it Swirlix

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>>33136563
Nice, that worked. Now I can start a new game on my cart, since this save is 100%

Does confusing, petrifying and putting to sleep work on Dark Matter? Or do I just go in with a fuckton of Blast and Revival Seeds and hope for the best? Yveltal and co were a cakewalk so I'm kind of worried.

>>33136707
How can you say that when Super Partner exists?

>>33137153
pls respond

>>33137153
They all work but like with other bosses don't expect it to last

VPMD >>33137813

>>33136016
We used to be spinoff general, so this place should work

>>33137257
But Super PC is even worse

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Got rekt by a Tropius, someone help a dude out.

American

>>33136753
>doing it all over again
you madman

>>33140323
This time i'm gonna hack Magnemite to be Butterfree, since Caterpie is far too late in the game otherwise.

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Reminder that if you haven't beaten Zero Isle South without using Smoochum or the Drifloon line, you are a subpar exploration team.

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Who is the strongest partner for Rescue Team, assuming i'm using a Skitty?

>>33104866
Pls contribute, need devs :(
https://github.com/purpasmart96/pmd_test

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>>33141635
Visual Studio for C projects.

That said, seems ok so far. I noticed that you can't expand your belly by eating food at max belly. Is that intentional or did you forget? And please don't hardcode abilities and especially flavor text.
Sorry that I can't help since I'm just too busy myself. Hope you'll get somewhere. Incidentally, are you sure you want to use C and not C++ for a roguelike of all things? NetHack had to go with C and it's rather dirty now.

If I've already beaten Explorers of Sky, do I need to go back and play Explorers of Time or Darkness as well? I've played every PMD aside from those ones.

>>33112155
I just imagine Chespin having a derpy look on his face whenever he instagibs bosses.

>>33142165
Not really. You won't miss anything. And I say this as someone who played Sky after Time.

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>>33139230

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>>33133782
You, pussy
This was the best part of the game, appreciate it.

>>33141668
Yes, The reason is because C++ has to many frankenstein features the only way to prevent it is too use C, plus I find it comfy, also visual studio for c projects just werks as long as you don't use uncommon c11 stuff. The hard coding of the abilities was done because Im too lazy to parse xml files.

>>33141668
A lot of devs may never contribute because of the choice of programming language.
That applies to either C or C++.
If you can't do much on your own, don't expect anybody to help. You impress first, then you inspire,
then you get help.

>>33143135
>C++ has to many frankenstein features
Which are entirely opt-in save for a few interdependecies. Games and OOP go really well, plus C++ is "cleaner"* and "safer"**. A roguelike, and a Pokemon roguelike at that, could benefit from OOP pretty greatly.

* because everything is autistically abstracted away
** if you bother to use RAII and STL and sheit, which you really should

>>33143198
Nice, but what did that have to do with me?

>>33143247
Oops. Was directed at
>>33143135

>>33143198
>C/C++ is too hard for brainlets
Id rather get no devs then Incompetent python shills and some Gamemaker trash.

Breaks are a good thing. You fags need to be creative and stop using crutches or the same 3 shitters every time

>>33144194
Superfags, everyone.

>>33144194
Breaks are the wrong way to get people to mix up their team. Encourage experimenting, don't force it.
Motivation was really good for this; I used tons of teams I wouldn't have otherwise. Gates had some cool stuff like those treasure doors you could only pass using certain types and the V-Wave too.

>>33144194
Breaks are the worse, the Motivation is much better for that. I mean, it would be okay if break was tied to how far they are from MY level and was not possible when they have a level lower than my own.

>>33144194
You have enough high-level mons, even early on, that it makes no difference which ones in particular are on break. You can always assemble a team of ridiculously overleveled Pokemon. And there's no reason that breaks should exist after completing the game, it just encourages using your starters because they never go on break.
All the break system does is frustrate players that want to play as their bros instead of starters.

>that absol in ninetales' secret base that mentions knowing a human before
I like all of these nods to the older games.

>>33144194
I dont want to use the same boring Fire/Water/Grass bullshit in every game ever made.

>>33130693
You mean the in-game Pokemon(starter, partner) replacement? Pretty sure someone already figured this out, used it on my save at least.

>>33145723
Pikachu and Riolu :^)
In all seriousness, there needs to be more variety in the game. Since Explorers, or arguably even the first games, most of the game locks you with a boring hero/partner duo, with both almost always being a starter. Pokemon's all about trying out and using new mons, but PMD's so backwards.
>it's about characterization!
The main duo are always the worst major characters in their respective games

>>33146080
Region?

>>33142551
>stone Pokemon and world ending cancer
>best
That's just shit taste. Game peaked at the haunted house and fake Giratina that uses status moves

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>>33134160
The move values for Pokemon 1 and 2, and name value for 3 seem to work! Haven't tested out the name values for 1 and 2 or the moves for 3, but they should also be functional.

To figure out what values you need to put in for Japanese names, go to the link below, and then set the output as UTF-16BE, and reverse the ordering for every pair. So if you want to use a name like ヒカリ, you should type in "D2 30 AB 30 EA 30" where the original name was.
http://macchiato.com/unicode/convert.html

>>33147211
The school sucked, get over it.

>>33147471
the school part was the only one that got any love and care put into it, anything after that point was a mess of a story

>>33147471
>>33147492
Time to settle this once and for all
https://strawpoll.com/bbe4ry7a

>>33146251
Gates partner was one of the best characters in the game. Pretty mich the only time the partner's done right.

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>>33147994
>when you miss an attack on a Delcatty

No shit, i was stuck waiting at my DS for 3 minutes straight watching as this motherfucker alternated Sing/Attract/Doubleslap. I'd wake up attracted, and get put back to sleep.

>>33146251
Europe, but i think there was other region in the pastebin i used for it. Sadly i don't have it anymore.

>>33148068
He was getting the Japanese ones since there's only info for Europe and America

>>33148068
This is the pastebin, I always update it when I found something or when something is posted here
https://pastebin.com/whz5DUmP

I think I'll start adding the addresses from fort42 at some point, too.

>>33148973
Perfect

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>>33149486
Sad bump

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Someone help pls

can I reset to easily get rng-dependant ovoerworld mons?

>>33151910
what are you referring to exactly?

>>33152109
Shaymin, Victini, etc
didn't know what to call them

>>33151910
>store all items and money in the box
>check all areas
>enter dungeon
>give up
>repeat until you connect with everyone

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>>33151657
I'm someone

hey, that's a bump limit!

>>33151910
There will always be a mon available in the location it should be at if you have completed all requirements for it. To get the next just enter and leave a dungeon to advance a day.

should I sell my gold looplets?

>>33153518
to add on to that question, I have an unrelated question: is it worth it to buy the flamethrower tm for my torchic with gold bars?

>>33153518
Nah, they're nice for the extra slots if you don't have anything better or a ton of Emera-Up Orbs.

>>33153549
Depending on how you want to break your (post-)game, I'd save those for steroids. Besides, you can buy much better moves from Hawlucha.

Someone make a new thread, doing so's a huge hassle since i keep getting errors

>>33153666

New thread: >>33153747