PTCG/PTCGO General

>http://polr.me/pokeprices
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html
Btw whats the most reliable to keep in next OP? Both update pretty regularly.

>>32594983
They both basically use the same system which is based on what the trade companies trade them for.

They're not actual legitimately 100% accurate values since they inflate prices and thus should be taken with a grain of salt (aka don't trade with those companies), but they give you at least a baseline.

Anywho
discord etc
https://discord.gg/chVfNWb

>>32595168
does he chase demons, or do demons eat him after a strong shot like he's a lime?

>>32595176
Or is he a homosexual Jamaican?

>>32594967
Any signs of an Aether/Team Skull set?

>>32595192
Kek

>Opponent realizes that they're losing
>Proceeds to play slow as fuck

Why?

>>32595215
Happening to me as well.

Guy's username is SenseiMarlon and he's a non-white.

>>32595221
RuPhenix in my case

>>32595193
Not yet. We're getting another team skull card in SM3 but it's kind of shit.

>>32595193
If it gets one, team flare never got a set, phantom forces was the closest thing to it.

>>32595380
Guzma and Plumeria when?

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A few trades and adjustments later, here's the current version

Performs overall much better

If you see this deck and you know you lost please for the love of god conceded, don't make me go through three turns of rotating 6 energy per turn

Threadly reminder that turn 1 item lock exists.

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I want Guzma to be this

Anyone else fucking tired of how dumb Lysandre makes this game?

>>32595472
Cause seriously there are so many strategic reasons to put pokemon on the bench but then it's just "urrrr durrr Lysandre that weak pokeeman and kill it xD".

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad without VS Seeker.

And when it's a pokemon with Lysandre as an ability like lycanroc, it's not as bad. Can't wait for that fucking card to rotate, I'm just tired of games ending because "vs seeker Lysandre, kill manaphy. Vs seeker Lysandre, kill shaymin"

>>32595472

not really, the game would be much dumber without lysandre

>>32595496

Its definitely vs seeker more than lysandre himself, but that card also makes bad decks more fun to play, so I'd rather keep it around

>>32595445
Why?
And why does this card look so cool compared to today's cards?

>>32595215
Maybe their thinking about what's in their deck and what they can do before they concede

>>32595472
Lysandre is the savior we need. Have you ever played in a format without lysandre or gust of wind like the ecard era? You had to use pokemon reversal which is like Pokémon catcher. Those were dark times

>>32595577
Lele back to hand, they bounce a random, Sylveon cleans up their other threats. Then you do it again! Fun.

>>32595813
Isn't that supporter that bounces one of your dudes back to your hand with all cards attached coming out next set anyway?

>>32595689
Reversal/Catcher aren't that bad. Except when you flip tails and lose when you would have won. Fees bad man.

>>32595819
Yeah, but this one fucks with their bench too

>>32595849
So they can also reuse a Lele or Shaymin?

>>32595872
Bounce, Red Card.

Is Ho-oh gonna be a deck?

>>32595890
yeah, it'll be around both in Volcanion/Kiawe hybrids and as part of a core in mega/GX Kiawe decks.

Kiawe and Volcanion as we know it are really two separate styles of decks, Kiawe decks will probably use one or both of the Volcanions but not as primary attackers. Volcanion will not use Kiawe if it survives as an archetype, time will tell whether Kiawe supplants Volcanion or supplements it.

>>32594967
That card is such a cockblock

Colorless decks are as good as dead now because they autolose to this instantly

>people are starting to wisen up and start requestin two leles per shaymin

TIME TO CASH OUT

>>32595973
Never judge a card without knowing the complete setlist, remember when mega quaza was trash until skyfield was revealed?

>>32596095

there's no amount of support that'll make lele more than she actually is tho, she's a usefull utilitary card but there was a crazy amount of hype surrounding her and thinking she's worth as much as shaymin always sounded crazy to me

I haven't gone first since before the ladder reset. Ask me anything.

Currently on 17 tails on Crushing Hammer since my last heads. Will report when I get a heads.

>>32595973
Megaquay is gone at rotation anyways, what other colorless shit do we have, Snorlax-GX?

just won an expanded tournament. the packs aren't GIR wtf.

>>32594983
Outcast values are a scam to flip your cards for self profit. That other guys doc pitches them halfway between the high/low offers that stay on the server.

>>32596383
What are they?
Does the prize list say you should get GIR?

>>32596381
Drampa and Tauros are pretty OP desu

Boy I love drawing all 10 energy in my deck before I see one elixir. Very normal.

>>32595472

i hate lysandre

but i run lunala setup so i probably deserve it

haven't played in a while

can I get lele for ~15 packs yet?

Is that guy with the Koko expanded deck here? I want to make that deck but I don't know what to trade for. I have 3 Koko and the evolutions electrode

>>32596791

20 min

>>32596120
I play 2-3 Lele and only one Shaymin now (in some instances no Shaymin), Lele is way more useful this meta guaranteeing you the right supporter. And with Garbador fill in a lot of decks people can't rip through half their deck with Shaymin+Sycamore.

Shaymin is now just a free 2 prizes to take.

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After 2 Sylveon, 3 Koko and other 2 GX im finally free of "no decks with lele" curse

>>32597546
Wailmer and Spheal are the cutest pokemon ever to have existed.

>>32597571
>he hasn't seen Braixen

>>32597610
A furry with earwax problems?

What's the verdict on Ice Beam GX?

>I forgot to take aether conservation into account
Fuck me right in my dumb ass.

Wow, I can't wait for ANOTHER Bewear...

Why isn't there a way to hide specific trade offers?

>I am getting: S&M-GR
>I am giving: Lycanroc-GX

Literally hundreds of offers of this exact trade and I will never want to take it.

Are there any big basic steel pokemon coming?

I wish they would print something like FAC genesect ex with an attack that does bonus damage for discarding. 20 per discard just can't compete in the current meta.

>>32597886
The filter option really needs to let you filter both sides instead of just one at a time.

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How do I beat this piece of shit deck?

>>32598250
With Scizor EX

>>32597715
The move is fine as you can guarantee a KO or stall for a turn but Lapras fell off after GR due to Slyveon, Trevenant and Garbodor.

>>32598250
assuming your deck has some kind of energy recovery or healing, it's piss easy to beat. If it doesn't, it's more difficult but still very possible.
Make sure to get an N in the discard early so you can Vs Seeker at any time to make their draw attack a wasted turn. Don't play a Stadium unless it's directly & instantly beneficial. Set up on your bench and then come out for the OHKOs. Keep a careful eye on the counts of what they have in the discard and know what they are likely to have still in deck including PoT. Just remember what they *can't* do and - OHKO you, play more than one supporter a turn, and chip away.

>>32596525
No, I just didn't check. My bad. It was three BW base and three XY base. Not worth my fucking time.

>>32598614
>>32598250
e.g. I just beat one with a Vikavolt GX deck. It's a deck with many micro-decisions to make and 9/10 players seem to fuck up sooner or later.

>>32598614
Seems like that's perfect for golisopod + choice + kukui combo

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>tfw arguing with someone who actually believes that dragon types are strong and DDE makes them overpowered
>he suggests a DDE that discards itself at the end of the turn as a 'balanced' alternative
>He actually believes that Giratina would still be playable without DDE
>I point out to him that even with DDE, Giratina's only placements this season were as part of a Darkrai/Dragons deck and Darkrai Turbo has 3x more placements
>he abruptly ends the conversation

1. how are people this stupid?

2. how the fuck do we fix dragons so they're not objectively the worst type in the game?

>>32598959
1. Beats me
2. Give dragons their own basic energies like every other type

>>32598959
Were you the guy arguing with the Pidgeot dude on PokeBeach where literally everyone pointed out the flaw in his argument yet he still insisted? I don't really get how he said DDE makes dragons OP when they weren't even that good to begin with. Even with DDE supposedly making dragon type overpowered, what are some cards that take full advantage of that other than Giratina and Salamence? And like you said...they're only useful for energy acceleration for Darkrai anyways.

Honestly, if they don't reprint DDE then the next best thing they could do is print a supporter or stadium that could help get the energy requirements. Maybe have a Blacksmith effect but for dragon type instead?

Was forest of giant plants a mistake?

>>32599065
I'm 100% sure he's arguing this because he plays Mega Pidgeot and Giratina absolutely shits all over that card (and any 2HKO centric mega that doesn't hit it for weakness), I gently pointed that out and he got defensive immediately and basically said the framework he's arguing from leaves no room for feelings when it's basically obvious to everyone except him that he's making a retarded argument with no basis in reality.


I was thinking something like Guzzlord GX with something like this

Ability: Devour Energy - When Guzzlord GX is placed on your bench from your hand, you may attach as many basic energy cards from your discard pile to it as you like.

Then give it a Y Cyclone style attack that lets you move up to 2 energy cards from it.

The other option is a Ryuuki supporter but I don't want that hideous design concept in my TCG.

>>32599135
That sounds fun as hell

>>32598959
Make dragon basic energy or make a DDE that cannot be discarded by items.

The biggest issue with dragons is huge attack costs that don't deal much damage and the fact that DDE is easily discarded but hard to get back making it almost impossible to ever attack.

That said I did do okay with a bad Wobb/Kommo-o deck for dragon damage challenge. Mainly because they didn't have hammers.

>>32595425
>If you see this deck and you know you lost please for the love of god conceded

I have a strong feeling that isn't going to happen very often.

>>32599120
Yes, to fix their horrible oversight, we need to get a Platinum miniset for Gen IV remakes with Broken Time Space in it.

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Why can't this card be standard anymore :(

>>32599135
Oh true, I totally forgot Mega Pidgeot was a thing but that explains why he was so adamant on shitting on Giratina when that card isn't problematic in the slightest. The Guzzlord idea sounds awesome, but with Sylveon in the format it's gonna be hard for dragon to still hold its ground. Hopefully dragon will be better, Noivern GX looks fun to play.

>>32599212
Just play Alolan Sandslash, does the same thing

>>32599120
>>32599205

It's 100% gonna rotate out anyway, good fucking riddance

Maybe now we can get some actual stage 2 support that's not mega/break

>>32599153
Kommo-o isn't actually that bad of a card with DDE, it's just not a good one. And once DDE is gone it's objectively worthless.

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Should I trade in my shaymins while people still might buy them before they rotate

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confirmed this game is full of underage fag

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>>32599288

>>32598959
argue with a fucking moron and he will drag you down to his level. There is literally no talking to that guy. Which thread though, I would like to read this for keks.

>how the fuck do we fix dragons so they're not objectively the worst type in the game?
Make the new DDE undiscardable?
Or what about a triple dragon energy? Just power creep I know, but maybe it hits yourself for 60 when you attach or something, like a rainbow would. afaik there are no dragons that would benefit from self-harm.

>>32599390
it's in the new cards thread, I stopped arguing because it's taking the thread way off topic, we should discuss the third (fourth if you count the team rocket one) garbage unplayable bewear card instead.

>>32598250
go first, turn 1 hex, turn 2 knockout.

>>32599437
pretty much, this strategy is doubly effective because Sylveon usually opts to pick to go second even it they win the flip.

Does anyone play trevenant/vileplume anymore? I was abundant a few days ago and not so much now.

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>>32599421
yeah I read it. He's a twat, no point arguing the point.
Something like pic related reprinted but not restricted to fire energies (or even basics) could make Dragon decks universally possible.
As for Bewear, it's shitty fodder apart from a maybe-meme fliptini mill deck, along with the new Wish Baton. Even then there's too many parts.

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Anyone got a good Typhlosion list? I want to try rebuild it with a Mallow/Scorched Earth draw engine instead of the Skylas.

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Rate my meme deck.

>>32599581
just because the cards are shit doesn't make it a meme/10
whats the point here?

>>32598250
Hope you go first and play silent lab

is there any way to save despair ray gardevoir this rotation ?

You can't have cancer if you're 100% cancer - Ptcgo edition 2017

My hand is full of items but i cannot shit.

XY Trev might be the worst good deck I've played.

>>32599581
How does it work? What is the purpose of chandelure?

When will the disruption meme end? I just want to actually play the game? Why do cards exist that prevent me from playing the game?

>>32600834

I play Sylveon just because Garb exists.

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Gotta love theme

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>there are 802 Pokémon not including megas and forms
>The same pokemon shows up in multiple sets in a row
>The same pokemon shows up multiple times in a single set

But y tho

>>32600918
>we still won't get a GX of something interesting
Not holding my breath for shit like Ursaring or Flygon, and there's probably no chance of shitmon having a neat gimmick.

>>32600949

I wouldn't be clamoring for more GXs, I just want them to make more good regular 1 prize mons, so that GX/EX decks aren't fucking everywhere

>>32600949

Kabutops fucking never

>>32600971
That's what I mean by shitmon with a neat gimmick.

>>32600918
What pisses me off the most is the meta pokèmon of the old format get new cards that are also meta. I know it's the bait whales, but damn.

>>32600949

Flygon was a top tier pokemon with an amazing level x back in the day. They could certainly do it again. Hell, it even has a recent EX.

>>32601182
Yeah, the lvl X was good, dunno about the EX though.

>>32597960
Please respond

>>32602027
Maybe Kartana at some point. Can't really predict future sets, and I don't really any basic steels revealed for the next one yet.

>>32602090
I'd expect Kartana to be SM4 at the earliest.
Given that they couldn't even keep the guardians together in one set, the Ultra Beasts are bound to be split up too. I reckon Nihileo, Buzzwole, Pheremosa and Xurkitree in SM4, then Kartana, Celesteela and Guzzlord in SM5.

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>tfw to intelligent to use N or Lysandre

>>32600949
>Gardevoir GX plus shiny Gardevoir GX
>no Mantine GX ever

end my life

>>32600918
>fates collide deerling wasn't the fall or winter form and didn't have a corresponding sawsbuck card

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Which would you put in your binder? A foil, or set stamped reverse foil? Assuming both are in heavily played condition

I lean towards foils, but this reverse foil has a set stamp on it for some reason, and I'm not sure why

>>32602600

>sideways

MOOOOOOOT!!!

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>>32602600
It's a pre-release card and usually worth a lot more than the normal version.

>>32602163
>guy lysandres my shaymin
>takes himself down to 1 prize
>use N on him
>he dead draws the rest of the game while I chip him to nothing

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Is it just me or has the client been extra laggy and unresponsive the past week? Like, more than normal

>>32602622
That one isn't a Prerelease card. It's a promo.

>32603033
Doesn't even deserve a (You)
How can you be so idiotic?
If it was a promo instead of a prerelease every promo card would have a set name stamped on it

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>>32603189
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dialga_(Diamond_%26_Pearl_1)
What now, retard? Are you too stupid to google before you fling shit and prove how wrong you are?

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>32603216
>implying Bulbapedia is a reliable source of information
top kek
stop posting unless you don't care about how badly you're embarrassing yourself faggot

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REMINDER
Enter in your Sun and Moon: Guardians Rising code that you find in your pokemon newsletter!
Also, make sure to give the exciting new Magikarp Jump game a try on your mobile device.
Happy gaming!

>Opponent uses supporter
>Puts Lele in bench
>Picks a supporter from discard

Why do people do this.

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>grab a DEX pack in a trade a couple months back
>never feel the need to trade it so I decided to open it

We're fucking lit

>>32603241
The prerelease promo for Platinum is Lucario. The prerelease promo for Great Encounters, which is the set that Dialga is from, is Porygon2.

>>32603579

Seconding this, the card in >>32602600 is one from a Burger King promotion and it isn't the only one.

>http://www.trollandtoad.com/products/search.php?search_category=&search_words=Burger+king+pokemon&searchmode=basic

There are also ones from another BK promotion with a Diamond and Pearl stamp.

>>32603383

>implying I ever get the newsletter remotely on time

>>32594967
planning on buying an elite trainer box. How good is the ratio of gx's in those boxes?

>>32595496
fuck you and your shaymins. Lysandre makes you pay for being a shaymin-fag.

>>32603383
>newsletter says "all pokemon deserve love"
>this triggers the /vp/

>use Ace trainer
>my 6 cards brick
>opponent's 4 total cards include 3 useful cards and a sycamore

Every time.

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>tfw Team Rocket's Handiwork'd for the win

Anybody wanna buy a Rainbow Rare Tapu Koko off me for 8 GUR packs?

>>32603739
I run a single shaymin.

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>>32603715
Id like to knoe this as well. Even though I bought a booster box, I may get a Trainer Box as well.

>>32604118
Yeah, you're a shayminfag then. Enjoy your Lysandre.

>>32604138
Getting pretty sick of being reminded my box was in the bottom 15%.

>>32604197
t. poorfag

>>32604138
What cards are we supposed to include in these photos besides GX?

All foils? Or just star rarity foils?

>>32604221
What's wrong, Shayminfag? Tired of Big Daddy Redbeard coming for that ass?

>>32604307
Obviously I'm upset about it, that was the entire explicit purpose of my original post.

Are you fucking retarded?

>>32604261
I include foil rares, but they're pretty worthless comparatively. Unlike when Base set first came out.
>>32604205
heh

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>>32604421
Didn't bother including shit like salazle or chandelure.

Why do people prefer Ultra ball over Master ball? With master you dont have to sacrifice anything. I can understand ultra ball with a deck that relies on things in the discard but in a normal deck, i dont get why its considered better.

>>32604748

You can run 4 Ultra and it's legal in Standard, Master is an Ace Spec and is Expanded-only.

>>32604748
Only cards printed in the last ~2 years are allowed in competitive games.

>>32604748
To thin your deck of useless cards and improve the odds of getting a good card in case some dick head Ns shuffles your hand.

>>32595189
Underrated

>>32604748
being this new

>>32597610
Lucky him. Its ugly as fuck.

What is a dark basic pokemon that i can add to any deck to beat Trevenant item lock? Pic related, it's mawile from break point. If it was a dark type card and still resisted psychic i'd use it. Or should I use Guardians rising Machoke in a 1-1?

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>>32604895

>>32604323
WELL FAIR ENOUGH

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Is Tapu Koko any good? How does the deck work?

>>32605222
SURPRISE GUARDIAN

obviously

>>32604748

>normal decks
>not relying on things in the discard

pls
Standard is gonna be weird if they don't reprint vs seeker somehow

>>32605222

Put a bunch of shitmons that shuffle energy around and then suddendly slam him from your hand and one shot something your opponent invested in with tapu thunder

snowball from there

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>>32605222
The guy I played had 4 Koko's and a Carbink. Made sure I couldn't remove the energies and just attached energies at will. He didn't win though.

>>32605333
>S I L E N T L A B
>I
>L
>E
>N
>T
>
>L
>A
>B

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>>32605349
Yeah, but I was busy sacrificing lab for the greater good.

Doesn't really matter, still won

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>>32605333

REMOVE GAY CATS

>>32605333

Feels like tapu koko should be a 1-2 off for the gx, his value after he blew his load goes down severely. Certainly wouldn't never play 4

>>32605611
Having 4 lets you drop in a new one when your active one starts taking damage.

In my deck I run ninja boy so that i can also switch that new koko with drampa so I can get the extra damage on berserk

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You can't silent lab my carbink if it's no longer a basic.

>>32605222
I've found he's best utilised as an addition to your usual Raikou deck.

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>>32605349
Hello

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>>32605222
What >>32606044 said.

He has found his spot in my Raikou deck. Still trying to find a nice consistent balance with this deck but this is what I play. I play something slightly different physically but can't be bothered snapping a photo.

The worst matchup is Sylveon if you can't get set up early and anyone than runs Muk.

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I think the ability boosts poison damage by 1.

>>32606172
sounds like a perfect addition to my laserbank memedecks.

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Second attack does 160 damage after ariados is used. Also Gardevoir is likely in the set.

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[C][C] Odor Sleuth: Flip two coins. For each heads search your discard pile for one card, show it to your opponent and take it into your hand.
[R][C][C] Searing Flame: 60 damage, your opponent’s active Pokemon is now burned.

>>32606177
we've known garde was in the set for awhile, she's on one of the boxes.

>>32606172
good

>>32606177
ehhhh, could be good but the energy cost is gross, also this will have only about a month of overlapping standard legality with Ariados. Maybe in expanded where you have lasers and dimension valley to support this. With choice band it hits 190 and with a tick of seviper enhanced poison you go to 210, so you might not even need to run virbank, or run both stadiums in your deck.

>>32606178
garbage

Found some translations
>>32606172
Poison Up
As long as this is in play, opp. active takes one more damage counter when poisoned.

Poison Fang
Opp. active is poisoned.

>>32606177
Poison Jab
Opp. active is poisoned.

Poison High
If this PKMN is poisoned, add 80. Then, heal of poison.

Good thing Toxicroak doesn't have to take the 50 damage of poison after attacking.

>>32606178
Is there a Durant card as well?

>>32606208
>As long as this is in play, opp. active takes one more damage counter when poisoned.
Does that mean it stacks for every one in play? Interdesting.

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>>32606114
oh that carbink is a nice idea. pic related is my current build. I am >>32606044

>>32606177
>needs three different energies

Too slow

>>32606177
I love how well it combos with STS Toxicroak. More of this please designers.

should I trade my third lele for a fourth shaymin if I just plan on spamming despair gardevoir untill the rotation happens ?

No deck will ever use 3 leles right I mean even two is sometimes more bench space than I can afford

>>32606177

I could really go for a stage 2 GX gardevoir

Hope they don't make her a basic, that shit is gay

I lost 4 games in the past 3 days just because some bug prevented me from playing any card, so my turn would end after some time. Since the other guy had more overall time than I did he just won by default.

Is this a common problem? Is it an exploit? The only thing I can possibly do is sit down through the whole rest of the game just to make the other guy lose his time.

>>32600949
>we still won't get a GX of something interesting
>when tauros and lapras GX exist
what are you talking about m8

>>32608066
Same happened to me with max potion, better you can do is report.

>>32608255

Tauros and Lapras are Ride Pokemon, so that's understandable.

Does anyone have that one guy's google doc with the card values? The pricing on Oucast's site seem super fucked up at the moment.

>>32608517
It happened to me twice with the great ball and once with the great ball. The fourth time I wasn't paying too much attention so I don't know what caused it.

>>32606205
>garbage

dude please, you have 50% chance to return anything x2 to your hand per turn... [you have 4x50% with victini]

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Here you go fags. I don't do online stuff

>>32608996
Claimed GR, thanks.

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>>32608996
Thanks!

>>32608842
>http://polr.me/pokeprices
gaylord OP removed it to shill for outcast http://polr.me/pokeprices

>>32609054
I literally put in the first reply blind moron.

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Alright nerds. It's giveaway time. Hop in the Discord, or don't either way is fine.

https://discord.gg/n7gPzTX

>>32609287

I'm at work save packs for me!

>2 packs of steam siege
>2 full art Steelixes

How can I be so luckily unlucky?

>>32609059
sensible place to put it.

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Greninja just wrecks Garbodor. They can't keep up with two Giant Water Shuriken per turn, their only hope is setting up the Garbotoxin one

>>32609608
Greninja is actually really solid right now. If Vileplume didn't exist he'd be tier 1 for sure. He shits on everything else save maybe Lurantis.

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About to open five physical packs

if I pull a Full Art, I will send codes (Rising and the Bulu code) to two anons who post emails. Im a nice guy, so Ill end up sending Bulu code to somebody since I already have them

>>32609892

Thanks in advance m8.

>>32609926

huh, my email didn't show up.

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>>32609892

>no Full Arts
>Wishiwashi
>M Blastoise

fuck it, just post emails and ill send some. only 2-3 anons though. Pls post pulls

>>32609962

[email protected]

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>>32609962
>>32609981

Thanks for the packs.

>>32609962
[email protected], assuming you didn't send them all to the other guy

>>32609962
[email protected]

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> be me
> newfag at PTCGO
> kinda like this game a lot
> lots of diverse decks (at least different pokes)
> coming from a 2 deck format on MTG
> get excited after tutorials
> new set just out
> bought 110 codes online just to trade for 2 Tapus 3 sylveons and maybe a shaymin
> open 4 packs with coins

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>>32609962

thanks for the codes m8, you are awesome.

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My second ever booster box.
Rate my pulls.

>>32610368
The leles paid for your box, nice/10

>>32610135

> be me

wow anon I never would have guessed that you're you!

>>32608896
literally worse bunnelby

>>32610393
Bunnelby shuffes to your deck, its different. Also the other dude said wrong its 25% chance.

>Inflict 60 damage
>Use espeon ex to devolve a gx
>They faint

At last I truly see

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What should I get

>>32610682
2 gold dce 2 leles

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>play TCGO
>Versus
>six straight opponents have conceded

Is this normal?

>>32610857
I wish i was lucky enough to gain that many lightning points when that full art juniper was the prize.

I have no clue what these codes are for and personally I do not care.

r2w-z7nv-x6c-wqz
zr7-bhpt-cm2-9zt

Should I play Garbodor or Darkrai tomorrow? My meta is mostly Greninja and Lapras with random stuff in between

>>32611588
Grab/Trev with Giratina promo tech

>>32610135
>4 packs with coins
>4 leles
i call bs

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nice timer system

Is it worth taking Sylveon GX to a best of 1 tournament? Or should I bring something that can take prizes a bit faster?

>>32611880
idk, but I'm taking Sylveon to my first League Cup next month.

>>32611880
Just pray they're not running Brock's Grit/Energy Recycler

Solgaleo is overpowered, prove me wrong.
>Discard all energy
>But you can retreat for free ;)

>>32611981
It's a stage 2.

>>32611859
Did you win?

>>32611999
yeah

>Dumb bitch losing
>Wastes her turn timer as much as possible
>Sends :D
Sore fucking losers.

>>32611998
There's nothing else like it in the game.

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What's a good mon to swap with aSandslash?

How did it work with Donphan back in the day?

>>32611998
This is why I have no respect for netdecking brainlets.

>I'm doing 150dmg per turn
>She has 2 solgaleo with no energy out (I killed the first one) and a lurantis
>could easily charge a solgaleo and ultra road to kill one of my metagross then repeat to win the game
>Instead Lysandres my shaymin for two prizes, I do 150 to lurantis
>At this point, she lysandres my Tapu Lele and solar blades her
>Kill Lurantis
>Could extend the game and possibly win if she uses ultra road
>Leaves solgaleo in the active spot for me to kill

Keep in mind this is following her being a cunt by running her timer out.

So of course I :D'd her until she conceded.

>>32594983
how do you read the Pack EV page of that spreadsheet? what type of info should I be getting from it?

>>32612033
Donphan used robo subs which I'm guessing rotated out of standard, but idk.

>>32595472

>opponent lines his bench with skymins
>lysandre them out
>collect two prize cards and pass go

Problem?

>>32612033
Wobb since Robosub rotated. A-Slash is garbage compared to Donphan anyway.

>see opponent using an EX deck
>feel bad for them

Two sets into Sun and Moon and EX decks are dead.
Is this the norm going into a new series?

>>32612650
>Volcanion
>dead
Good laugh.

But really EX's just got power creeped by really good GX's that are either basic or bypass evolution (FoGP, energy evolution). Yveltal is alright but the potent pairing of it with Garbodor was weakened by Field Blower. M Ray is probably the only viable M-EX deck now.

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>>32594967
>Register
>forces me to do a pw with symbols and shit
>Want to log into the client
>my password doesnt fit the login screen

Uninstalled.

>>32612694
Yeah, I've had times when I've been completely unable to log into the TCG Online when the same username and password works fine on either the pokemon.com or 3ds.pokemon-gl.com websites (which all use the same account)

I think TPCI's servers are just made of poop.

What are regular Leles worth now? I see public trades offering 16 packs of GUR, but public trades are garbage.

What would a post-Guardians tier list look like?

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Just paid $60 for this lot

I missed out on a $50 DCE

>>32613772
where do you live?

wish we had stores like that

>>32614014
Long Island, New York

>>32612428
Exactly. It makes the game dumb.

just bought three packs of guardians from walmart, they appeared to be sealed in the cardboard blister but when I opened them they were reseals with only 8 cards, no code card, rare, or reverse. watch out

>>32613772

Jewing it today. I just got an ETB for $19.99 because of a vendor screwup at Target.

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>having to wait for garbotards to count your discard pile

>>32614181
Don't play Shaymin then

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>beating Volcanion with Solgaleo to win a tournament final

>>32614667
It's not just that, you minimalistic dumbass.

>>32615131
I don't get the hatred for Lysandre. Vs Seeker is the issue for me, but Lysandre lets you punish greedy plays. Vs Seeker removes any thought required, you can use supporters in excess and generally devalues them in play.

>>32615211
Yeah, it's mostly that.

>Play hex maniac
>Play shaymin

>>32615269
Gotta have that one more card son!

>>32595472
You have no idea how many players at leagues complain about Lysandre being unfair.
It happens more than with Crushing Hammer, or N, or even Hypnotoxic Laser back in the day. People just see their bench as a safe place when they really shouldn't.

Maybe going to Walmart tonight, what's the hot meme I should buy?

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How good is Greninja against Sylveon? Got a League Challenge tomorrow, got a lot of people running Sylveon and Lapras, figured I'd bring Greninja back out.

>>32615377
it's mostly because like gust of wind and pre-errata catcher it

1. heavily discourages running ANYTHING that takes more than 2 attachments to attack (sole exception is Primal Groudon and that works precisely because it's immune to Lysandre)
2. punishes players for running consistency cards that are basically mandatory anyways

But it's not really broken in and of itself, Lysandre is broken solely because vs seeker exists. VS seeker is the single most meta-deforming card in standard right now, the entire sycamore/shaymin/ultra ball draw engine falls apart without it.

>>32615739
Run 1-1 Starmie-EVO and it's an almost unlosable matchup I find. The only way they can disrupt you really is nailing your energies in hand with TSG but most Sylveon decks only run 1, so they have to pull out a ton of vs seekers to keep up and Starmie is guaranteed to be able to pull enough energy for one shuriken and a moonlight slash every turn.

>>32615805
1-1, two chances to prize-brick yourself. Good idea.

WYG-CWGC-HGK-BCW
good luck

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>>32615973
Thanks

>fag takes 10 minutes between each and every action
>wins through attrition because you get shit draws

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>>32616020
Fuck you!

Thank you big daddy Sylveon GX

Will dranpa and metagross GX attacks be less dog shit after n rotates?

>playing daddy dark rai faggot
>He gets my metagross to 160dmg
>Retr3at metagross
>Geotech systems to attach 3 to new metagross, attack dr
>Does 150 damage to newgross
>Max potion benched MG
>He sends :/ face
>Retreat metagross
>Skyla, grab max potion, heal other MG
>Start geotech systeming
>He concedes

Literally lold

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Went with >>32615805 advice because I like that idea. Any other advice? (I only have the one Choice Band because life isn't fair.)

>>32616173
I'd like to see your list, I just happen to have 3 Metagross GX IRL thanks to pre-releases.

If I buy an etb will I be likely to get some gud cards?

>>32616242
Metagross, rare candy, Skyla, max potion. Consider choice band, Lysandre, field blower.

>>32616232
Remove brooklet hill, N

Add another starmie and staryu.

How is Garbodor supposed to beat Greninja? I can't do it no matter how many games I play

>>32616269
Why remove Brooklet Hill? Vileplume is very much a problem around here and I wanna be able to pull my Breaks.

>>32616269
You can't draw breaks with brooklet hill, read the card idiot.

Brooklet hill is useless for water duplicate greninja deck

>>32616306
Meant for >>32616303

>>32616306
My bad. I'm just afraid of dead drawing, anyway. If it can happen to the dude playing Greninja in the finals of Worlds last year, it can happen to anyone.

>>32616321
It can. That's why you ought to run 2-2 of starmie.

>>32616306
It might not be completely useless. Hill could pull out a froakie, staryu, or remoraid instead of using a searching item like dive/level/ultra ball.

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>>32616333
...apparently I only have one of those Starmies. Fug. If the card shop I'm at tomorrow has one, I guess I'll pick it up.

>>32616333
The only reason I recommended 1-1 stamie is because with Talonflame you really want to minimize the number of other basics you're running, I kind of assume any memefrog player is using it. But if you're not running Talonflame you should absolutely go 2-2.

Also the 0 retreat Staryu is very important since a staryu start can fuck up your water duplicates timing.

>>32616275
It literally doesn't, unwinnable matchup.

>>32616439
Yeah, I was gonna tell him not to use that shit staryu also.

0 retreat staryu is way better.

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>>32616451
Switched Staryu, thanks for the protip. I'll throw in another Starmie if I can find one tomorrow.

Appreciate the help, party people.

>>32616109
no because N was reprinted in FAC, so we probably have him until 2018 rotation at least.

>>32614159

What store dude?

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>opponent is playing trevenant/Garbodor/Tauros Gx
>You can't too many items in the discard,you can't attach energy to the active or it's discarded, You can't use Gx/ex,you can't have too many items or supporters in hand, you shouldn't attack tauros Gx, your abilities are locked

You can't stop my Raikou deck scrub.

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>Gamestop had a buy 3 packs get one free sale
Thanks Gamestop.

Considering they're pushing stage 2 gx mons in this set I hope they put more support than just rare candy and timer ball, stage 1 is still kind.

>trying to play despair ray in this meta full of 200+ hp stage 1 mons

the powercreep is real
this is fucking stupid

>>32615211

If anything vs seeker expands the range of possible plays greatly, it literally make the game more complex and more skill based. I guarantee without vs seeker the game would be boring as shit

Anybody that complains about vs seeker, lysandre and N literally is too dumb to understand those cards

>>32617838

time for that espeon ex tech friendo

>>32617860

how does that help at all against stage 1s

>>32617838
Just accept that your deck has been outclassed and move on to a better one. This is the natural flow of all card games.

>>32617922

when you're doing less than their total health and devolve their pokemon, the basic dies

>>32617955

would work with a spread deck but I can't see myself being able to afford the switches + the hit just to get 1 prize in the end

>>32617965

if you're rarely getting ohkos then it would pay to drop the sky fields in favor of fairy garden and commit to the idea of setting up devolves for multiple knockouts

but yea the deck is probably irredeemably shit now sry

>>32617944

I dunno, it's just annoying to see a deck that requires a lot of effort to play and has a big learning curve being controlled by simple hate cards like parallel city or sudowoodo or being out-stated by decks that just slam their GXs in play and use the biggest attack every turn.

>>32617838
It's not that different from 210 hp fighting fury belt basics you can still 2 hit ko with 110-130.

>>32617982

Its pretty different than megas and basic ex with fury belt because of the setup going into one mon, at least they're paying for that health

but trying to keep lycanroc in check for example is an uphill battle, and they have the gx one shot over you in the race.

>>32617993
I'm interested in Lycanroc Gx because for some reason i keep getting full arts of it. The problem i have with the deck is power. 110 is nice but it's not the magic number 120. 120 for 3 energy is good enough to ko Garbodor.

I could use carbink break + strong energy but i worry about it's hp stat and gx will ko it. I could go with double colorless mix but the only way to boost damage against regular pokemon is with Kukui. Then there's Lycanroc's Gx attack but a careful opponent shouldn't play more than 3 cards on the bench.

>>32618047
A Regirock Ex could boost damage by 10 just enough for Garb. With three pokemon on the opponent's bench and a regirock ex on your bench a lycanroc's gx attack can ko an lapras gx with no fury belt. 150+10+30 from choice band=190

>>32618047

It's honestly a pretty bad deck imo, i can't see it winning against anything popular nowadays, as you say it can't even one shot garbodor

it's just really annoying for m gardevoir to face these kind of decks because you need a spirit link to be online whereas they don't, and your stats are comparable otherwise. You need kukui for the one shot and that's most of the time not possible, so you're essentially playin 2OHKO war except you need an item and they don't

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>>32618311
Update on this game, my opponent started with a Tauros, DCE and I lost.

Possibly the fastest game I've ever played in my life.

>>32618047
You can still use strong energy without carbink

>>32617944
With Pokémon, at least, this is starting to become more of a power creep issue than anything.

It's one thing to be countered by new strategies brought by new cards. Losing because of HP and damage inflation is losing because you didn't buy the newest cards, which is just stupid from a pure gameplay perspective

>>32617838
The powercreep in this game is tame compared to others, don't be a bitch you pussy.

>>32617857
>include one or two of every useful supporter
>ultra ball to discard them early on
>reuse as required
>complex and skill based

Vs seeker rewards reckless players and reduces variety in decklists. Lysandre abuse is what makes any Pokémon that requires some turns to set up completaly useless.

>>32618433
>worse games justify power creep
wat?

I'm trying to make a Mimiku revenge deck but I'm having trouble. I thought I could put Tauros up and then mimik the opponent's big Tauros killer attack but then I'm sacrificing at least two prize cards for one revenge. Probably three because then they'll take mimikyu.

Advice?

Also...
>>32618424
This. I have all these cards I want to try playing in my online collection that will never see the light of day because they've been undercut.

I wish there were Worlds standards formats for each year or whatever so you could play old cards in the meta they were built for (eg Worlds 2012 format wherein only cards legal in that tournament would be legal).

>>32599421
>Fourth if you count the Team Rocket one
Actually, Bewear has prints in
Sun & Moon
Guardians Rising
Burning Shadows
Team Rocket Decks
Promo GX

With five different cards released in just over three months, I'm pretty sure this is the most densely timed releases of a single Pokémon. I didn't even think Bewear was at all popular.

Most babies haven't had a card for over six years, and there are four or five megas that have never had a card, but for some reason the cylindrical raccoon bear gets five.

>>32618424
>starting to become more of a power creep issue
Pokémon has always had pretty big power creep, especially at the start of a generation.
If anything, I'm surprised that most of the common decks are still based around EXs rather than GXs

Guardians Rising was an especially big jump though.

Is vespiquen still a good deck now that guardians has been out for a while? Anyone got an updated decklist I could try?

>>32618664
I don't think it's been good since last year's rotation.

>>32617857
Complete nonsense. It is more of a crutch than anything else, and while it does increase the range of plays, it only does so by making it easier to play these cards. There's no real thought required other than remembering how many you can use in the game. It's one of those cards that reminds me I'm playing a card game designed for kids.
Lysandre and N aren't problems, but because of VS Seeker there's no negative to those cards being discarded. As the other anon said, they're devalued because of it. You are dumber than a child if you think it requires any skill.

>>32599421
>drawing three cards, and doing 120 damage to basics
How is GR Bewear not at least a meme?

>>32618695
Can't do squat against evolutions.

>>32618695

The only basic left in the meta is yveltal and he doesn't challenge it at all

>>32619260

>Yveltal

Meant darkrai, but same shit really

>>32618686

If you think VS seeker and lysandre are the problem and not sycamore you are too stupid to understand this game, that's all that needs to be said really

>>32619369
>if I have no real arguments, you are too stupid to understand this game
Anon, Sycamore would become a balanced card if it wasn't so easy to reuse supporters. By itself, it only allows you to burn resources faster, which isn't necessarily a good strategy.

>>32618638
it's a literal pokémon of merchandise made to sell more merchandise. how are you surprised?

>>32618638
bewear and bewear-gx are different pokemon as far as the TCG is concerned :^)

>>32618678
it absolutely has been, it has one of the highest cp/entry ratios of any deck, and it arguably got better with guardians.