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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
NEW trailers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-aWlbgRjIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTVanCQHKBY

Next episode:
>SM19 - Intense Electric Shock Training! A Rematch with Kapu-Kokeko!! [Mar 23rd]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/news/index.html#199605

Upcoming episodes:
>Break on Mar 30th
>The Exact 20th Anniversary for the Pokémon Anime "Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" Special [Apr 1st]
>SM20 - The Promise Between Satoshi and Pikachu + SM21 - It is Time for Nyabby to Set Off! [Apr 6th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>32124441
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SM18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_018_I-Maji-ne!_Mao's_Cooking_Operation!![H264_720P][908803CC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][689BDB20].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Special_-_The_Ultimate_Duo!_Citron_and_Dent!![H264_720P][D17531C2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 19 - INTENSE ELECTRIC SHOCK TRAINING! A REMATCH WITH KAPU-KOKEKO!! (MARCH 23RD)
>The popular comedian Abareru-kun appears in the anime as a character. Don't miss his passionate battle with Satoshi. Also, Satoshi and Pikachu battle Kapu-Kokeko again! Will Satoshi win this time?!

>Summary:
>Satoshi and the others have dropped by Māmane's house after school. They're there in order to get advice from the Electric type expert Māmane on how to win against the legendary Pokémon Kapu-Kokeko, which they have battled once before. Satoshi and Pikachu also train with Māmane, and gain confidence about the battle. And then Kapu-Kokeko appeared right before their eyes!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Abareru-kun: Hiroki
>Megumi Hayashibara: Iwanko
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amamaiko
>Yuji Ueda: Māmane's dad
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 76 (Mar 26th)
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The Exact 20th Anniversary for the Pokémon Anime "Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" Special (Apr 1st)
>On Saturday April 1st 2017, it will be the exact 20th birthday of the "Pocket Monsters" anime, which started airing April 1st 1997.
>At the house where Pokémon fans gather, "Pokénchi", both the Pokénchi residents and guests that truly love Pokémon will gather to celebrate that the Pokémon anime is now 20 years old!!
>We will bring you tons of precious and nostalgic clips from TV series and movies featuring famous touching scenes and famous Pokémon battles that won't fail to excite you!
>Not only that, but Abareru-kun and Shokotan will leave Pokénchi to visit a company that produces Pokémon toys, as well as "other Pokénchi"!
>And you can't miss the special live concert with Rica Matsumoto, the voice of Satoshi!
>To celebrate this memorable day, just say "I Choose You" to this special program!!

SM20 - The Promise Between Satoshi and Pikachu (Apr 6th)
>Satoshi has gone shopping with his classmates when he hears talk about a small island located nearby that's known under the name "Treasure Island". Satoshi immediately set off for Treasure Island, and as he spent some alone time with Pikachu there, he once again strengthened his feelings towards it. And as it was getting dark, a mysterious, shining Pokémon appeared in the sky, and......?

SM21 - It is Time for Nyabby to Set Off! (Apr 6th)
>As Satoshi is in the city doing some shopping, he spots the Nyabby he has has met before. He goes to Nyabby's home, where the old Mooland that guides Nyabby in life is. And after a while, Nyabby incredibly enough asks Satoshi for help. It appears that Mooland is extremely ill, and as Satoshi hears Nyabby tell him this, he...

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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First for Lillie a shit
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reminder
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>>32129514
Blame SM.
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What does the mooninese gobbledygook in the picture say?
Are they starting a new season already?
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>>32129464
>Will this guy ever Stop trying to force his shit meme


Comedy relief fag.

Kill yourself and take your shit meme with you to hell.
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Dawn best girl.
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>>32129644
>Alola!!/Pose

It's the cover art for the CD with the OP and ED.
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Is Kiawe going to catch Litten?
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>>32129709
No
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Why are Team Rocket the best characters on the show?
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>>32129674
>Misty is a whiny bitch and does absolutely nothing especially after getting Togepi and only gets characterized in the Chronicles specials
>May is a whiny bitch AND a weak pissbaby, literally follows her schoolgirl crush to Johto at the end for no real reason, only real rival is some narcissistic asshole who hates her just because some girl that looks like her ate his lunch one day as a kid
>Iris is a whiny bitch, and also a whiny bitch, and did I mention she's a whiny bitch
>Serena is a weak pissbaby whose personality is dominated by "muh Ash", halfway through partially shifts to "muh showcases" but fails hard and moves on to contests in Hoenn
>Dawn doesn't constantly bitch, only ever really gets annoyed when made fun of by childhood friends, manages to hold her own despite having the joke starter who refuses to evolve and some low-level shitmons up until getting Buizel and later Ambipom, forms a real dynamic with Ash and doesn't have a stupid crush on him, basically manages to snap a Gym Leader out of her bubble and battles her in what amounts to a real Gym match, learns from her failures despite failing quite a few times, has several dynamic rivals, and leaves on a high note
Yeah, pretty much
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>>32129741
(you)
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>>32129791
>I have no argument: the post
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>>32129739
Because they actually were sad when he lost the league unlike his "friends".
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>>32129662
Maybe he wouldn't exist if IKU ZE didn't give every generation's starters a chance to be their own Special Snowflake in the form of "Will they or will they not evolve it?"
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Sun Moon anime is such a MASTERPIECE!

XY/XYZ look like garbage in comparison
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>>32129846
We posting XY Q U A L I T Y now?
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>>32129876
Xyz was turning PokeAnime in some Fairy Tail bulshit.
SM is curing it
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>>32129876
And this
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This time again, huh?
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>>32129902
Well this one is bad actually
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>>32129902
i mean not bad shit dat keyboard
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Damn, I wish I still had those low quality Bonnie shots, especially the one with her disgusted face.
Or that horrible shot from right before the really detailed faceoff with Greninja and Sceptile. Or that shot with Retard Sceptile from the same episode.
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Hi thread
Any news?
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>>32129929
Depends. Since when?
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>>32129436
>How hyped are you
One look at how dead this thread is will tell you the full story.
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>>32129930
>>32129929
Episode 21 is gotta be emotional as fu confirmed in script cover
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>>32129936
The old geezer's gonna depart for dog heaven, ain't he
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we're getting 2 episodes in april 6?
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>>32129969
Yeah, 1 hour special.
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>>32129966
>9966
i guess it's going to dog hell now
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>>32129435
>>32129425
Hi Adamant
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>>32129936
I expect a Litten being distraught as fuck and Ash coming over to Litten and just hugging and comforting him. If they play Emotion in the background I'd lose it /padt/
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>>32129998
>making a joke is autism
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>>32130030
That post doesn't exist you goddamn moron stop linking to it
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Why are they so cute?
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>>32130049
I love Lillie
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Autism.
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>>32130079
Stop it
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>tfw you're only here because you want to see if Ash's next Main Starter gets special treatment and thus gets an absurdly good form(e) in the games to continue the cycle of Starter Wars
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>>32130104
Most only watch for the girls. Which is rather obvious.

A lot of people got into AG or DP just for May or Dawn alone too.
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Litten > Froakie
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>>32130114
Why are you awake so much earlier today
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>>32130104
Pretty sure litten is the ace. Even though rowlet is the most popular.
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>>32130115
>Things no one actually believes.txt

Torracat or whatever it's called it's one of the worst designs this gen.
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It's rather obvious the interest in each saga, besides the way Ash is handled and his team, is whoever the female characters/companion is. It's been like this ever since the end of the OS when we got new female leads for the first time. If you have a female character who has a great design and good development/story, it directly impacts the saga and makes it better.
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>>32130143
Fuck off
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>>32130143
>>32130144
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Does anyone think Mallow has the exact same personality as Shauna, just with a cooking motif instead of a performer?
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>Shokotan
>Abareru-kun
>Rinka
>Hyadain
>Yamamoto
>Ono-chan
>Hana-chan
>Nuwara
>Maru
>Tachibana
>Watanabe
>Anakubo
>Matsushima
>Yamashita

Who else do you think we'll get movie art from? Rica? Yamadera?
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Do actual little girls like pokegirls as rolemodels!
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>>32130202
Yes.
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>>32130136
You mean Incineroar? Torracat is fucking awesome, one of the best middle stage starters.
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>>32130202
I do.
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>>32130212
>implying you're a little grill
MODS
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>>32130217
We're all little girls here, anon.
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>>32130204
It's the other way around. They used Serena to project the will of short haired women on.
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>>32130215
Litten was already solid, Torracat just made it better.
And then there's Incineroar.
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>>32130246
>literally said Serena gave her the strength to cut her hair
Try again, 77
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Can we get a main girl who fucking catches some mons, trains them and battles with them with a battle-oriented goal?

I'm sick of all these useless waifu girls
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>>32130257
That's just women virtue signaling. In reality Serena was changed because the men just wanted female approval from all those short haired women in the anime studio. Those guys are just pussy beggars that can't call out women on their regressive shit.
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>>32130271
Literally Iris
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>>32130271
Group of 3 character again when? I really miss DP when I see the mess SM is.
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>>32130115
>>32130138
>>32130208
>>32130247
Can't wait till you're BTFO you shitty falseflagging Barafags
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>>32130303
>>32130290
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>>32130277
>>32130246
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Short hair Shoko best Shoko
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>>32130257
Nothing you say will make him stop. You know he's just trolling at this point, all you can do is filter him by image and buzzword. Same goes for the other resident NEET who infects this place on a daily basis.
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>>32130338
All Shokos a best Shoko.
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>>32130279
and Iris' goal was better and more interesting than Serena's and the SM girls.

Who could've guessed a goal centered around Pokemon, in a show about Pokemon, is better than dancing and having the regions best cafe?
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>>32130345
He may be retarded but he's not wrong.

How sad that a literal retard argues circles around /padt/.
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>>32130356
>but he's not wrong
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>>32130353
Iris' dragon goal was literally only brought up in a small handful of episodes. It was about as irrelevant as Misty and Brock's goals.
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>>32130356
>but he's not wrong.
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>>32130363
And yet it was still better than "muh showcase" (brought in halfway into the series, mind you, where before that it was just "muh Ash") or "muh float away in a big bubble" (the absolute worst offender)
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>>32130363
but it was still better. and Iris actualy participated in the battle tournaments with her mons and stuff thanks to it

Serena's pokemon just being background fodder was painful to see
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>>32130386
>watching the dub
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>>32130386
Iris' Axew never evolved or went anywhere, and Dragonite was a rushed dues ex pokemon to make Iris look good. Literally Iris' only development eps toward her goal is when Drayden or Claire showed up.
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>>32130394
The dub has nothing to do with this. Fuck off.
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>>32130399
>watching
>the
>dub

Go back to where you came from.
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>>32130399
You need to leave.
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>>32130356
>he's not wrong
t. longhairfag

>>32130399
>>32130353
>watching the dub
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>>32130386
Serena was the first girl that didn't battle at all, i was glad they changed the formula a bit
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>>32130399
>watching the dub
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>>32130398
Serena's Braixen didn't evolve into Delphox and her Pancham never evolved at all. She also almost never battled anyone that wasn't Team Rocket (or a movie villain) and her only sign of development was a fucking haircut.
Lana's Popplio shows no sign of evolving any time soon either. Which is ironic given that Primarina would be able to make a large bubble she could float away in.
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>>32130386
>brought in halfway into the series
>people still don't get what Serena goal was meant to represent
>some folks are literally below kindergarten tier
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>>32130431
He's a dubfag, are you surprised?
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am I the only one who actually enjoy SM?
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>>32130438
It's okay. Could and should be better.
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>>32130409
>>32130418
>>32130419
>>32130426
>I
>don't
>watch
>the
>dub
>you
>fucking
>retards
Next time actually form an argument instead of parroting a meme that doesn't even apply
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>>32130438
Me too
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>>32130362
>>32130370
>>32130419
>greentext
>no argument

Thanks for proving me right.
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>>32130448
>>32130386
>"muh showcase"

Nice try
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>>32130431
Then please, explain what her goal was AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SERIES, and don't mention Ash or anything past Episode 10. Tell me what she wanted to do at the very beginning of the series.

>>32130437
Still don't watch the dub, but keep parroting your memes, maybe at some point they'll form a coherent sentence
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>>32130428
My point was Iris specialized in dragon pokemon and for half of BW, Axew was her only dragon type. It never evolved because the writers treated it like the typical mascot pokemon of a gen.

Dragonite was clearly only rushed into Iris' team to make it look like she tamed an all powerful pokemon. There's a reason they didn't have her get it as a Dratini first and watch it evolve over the season.
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>>32130474
>Tell me what she wanted to do at the very beginning of the series.
Find out who she exactly is and what she wants from life.
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>>32130474
You seem upset.
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>>32130431
People are idiots...unable to tell that from the start Serena's character was more about personal/emotional growth and maturation, less about the specific goal, which was always meant more as a narrative device than an end in and of itself.
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>>32130475
>make it look like she tamed an all powerful pokemon

But it remained disobedient for the whole series, and gets its ass kicked regularly. It wasn't at all meant to glorify Iris if that's what you're implying.
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>>32130474
>Tell me what she wanted to do at the very beginning of the series.

But her true goal was to fuck Ash, she even said so herself. A goal is a goal, right?
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>>32130453
>one word that matches what the shitty dub calls it means I watch the dub
In that case let's review all the posts that use the names "Ash", "Mallow", "Litten", "Rowlet" etc., because those sure as hell aren't their original Japanese names. Clearly anyone who uses those names watches the dub.
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>>32130208
Oh yeah the middle is still cute but the walking cat is terrible. My little brother (not so little anymore he is just my younger brother now) switched to Popplio after seeing kittens final evolution.
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>>32130485
You're admitting she had no goal

>>32130496
That was addressed with "muh Ash" in my original post.
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>>32130493
Which had absolutely fucking nothing to do with Pokemon, and was painful to sit through. The recycled plot device just made it worse.
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>>32130428
>>32130495
>trying to argue anything with Scott
>trying to argue anything with a guy whose sole purpose in life is to troll fans on video game and Pokemon forums
There's where you went wrong.
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>this triggers /padt/
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>>32130533
>>32130527
>>32130496
>>32130474
Not this shit again
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>>32130510
You're trying too hard, dubshit.
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>>32130493
So you admit she had no goal until the performances started.
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>>32130547
>cute image of doggo and Ash
I don't even like SM so far but nothing about that image offends me
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>>32130510
>one word that literally does not exist outside the dub and that nobody actually uses means you watch the dub
Yeah, I'd say it's fairly likely.

Go back now.
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>>32130527
>Serena had no goal
>midlife crisis doesn't exist
>youngsters feel stressed as fuck for nothing
>all because getting a truthful and conscious opinion about oneself doesn't fucking matter

BREAKING NEWS, ANON SOLVED LIKE 75% OF PSYCHICAL PROBLEMS IN WORLD, BY PROVING IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER

literally reconsider your sapience, famalam
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>>32130552
Prove I watch the dub.
Prove it.
Using one word isn't proof.
Seems more like you're diverting attention away from the fact that you watch the dub by accusing me of doing it.
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>>32130552
>>32130548
>/padt/ in charge of arguing
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>>32130574
Just leave.
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>>32130552
>>32130571
>>32130573
Best to just ignore at this point, guys. You're just gonna end up talking past each other.
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>>32130571
If that's the case, how do you know about it?
According to you only a person who watches the dub would know what that word means.
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>>32130573
>Real life = anime
Consider going outside more
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>>32130587
You're trying too hard.
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>>32130577
Make me, dubfag.

>>32130592
Exactly what a dubshitter would say.
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>>32130592
>>32130577
>>32130552
The underage is palpable.
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>32130601
You don't even deserve a (you) at this point
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>>32130422
Serena was a Godsend
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>>32130615
And a goddess
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>>32130422
>I like characters who don't do anything
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>>32130613
He stopped deserving attention like 20 minutes ago, now stop giving him it.
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>>32130617
Don't start this
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>>32130613
>>32130631
>watching the dub
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>>32130648
It's true though.
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>>32130648
Start what? Besides, he's right.
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>>32130591
>anime is not meant to emulate humanlike traits and behaviours for it's characters for the sake of viewers

What next words of divine knowledge you gonna spout? That Raskolnikov in Crime and Punishment can't be analysed as well researched study of degrading psyche? That it's literally impossible to find semblances of megalomania or pride in Menelaus's characterization because >muh fucking fables of greek pedo?
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Funny, I haven't seen one Lillie shitpost in this entire thread. It's mostly dominated by XY shitposters.
Almost as if...xy shitposters and sm shitposters...are the same people...woah...
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>people still defending this shit Serena
>not embracing best goddess Lillie

thats what autism looks like
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>>32130613
>>32130592
>>32130548

how many fucking hundreds of times are you going to regurgitate the same evasive memes whenever your opinion is challenged in the slightest?

you know that completely dodging the argument and screaming accusations is classic ad hominem, right? what the fuck is wrong with this thread?
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>>32130689
>literally no main character in any highly regarded anime that wasn't a joke character has ever had no goal whatsoever for a large chunk of the series
>CLEARLY HAVING NO GOAL MEANS IT'S GOOD WRITING YOU GUYS
>comparing a fucking Japanese children's cartoon to Crime and Punishment
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SOON
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>>32130720
(you)
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>>32130730
*fuck wrong picture
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>>32130574
>tripokalons were never even brought up in the games
>you'd have to be either watching the dub or actively looking for info about it to know what it's dub name is
Pretty easy
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>>32130730
Cute
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>>32130689
>glorifying writer's block this hard

Fucking please nigger. She had no goal because the writers had no plan, then they panicked and recycled the generic girl goal again. But no battling this time, god forbid it's interesting to watch.

Do you overanalyze mlp as some treatise on the human condition?
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>>32130744
at least you realized your autism
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>>32130750
Technically they were OR/AS Contests, just with the anime slapping a new name on them.
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>>32130654
>watching the dub
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>>32130744
*fuck wrong pic again
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Lillie is very cute
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>>32130744
>>32130730
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>>32130761
I understand what they were, but no official sources other than the dub ever called them "showcases", ergo he'd have to watch the dub in order to know what it's called.
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>>32130694
>Not embracing Dawn.
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>>32130772
Fuck off, Mami
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>>32130750
So you admit that you watch the dub? Because, according to you, that's the only way you could know what that word is referring to.
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>>32130775
Half the posts here are just shitposts, shitpost-kun. Try again.
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>>32130775
Its just the insecure amourshitters
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>>32130783
Yes I do, every week there's a new episode of the dub I watch it to compare it to the japanese version.
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>>32130753
>>32130723
>people on this board are too stupid, lazy, or both, to do simple analysis of a character
I blame Bold&Famous

>and some are too stupid to notice that Tripokalons were more alike to game contests than previous incarnations of those
And Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
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>>32130793
Autism.
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>>32130774
Not the anon in question but I have never watched the dub and I call them showcases because that's a more fitting word. Tripokalon sounds stupid.
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>>32130793
>>>>>>watching the dub
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>>32130806
I actually agree with this but I still call them tripokalons in here just so I don't get spammed with the really shitty >watching the dub meme.
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>>32130806
>>32130820
>I watch the dub and pretend not to
Nice try. And nice samefag
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>>32128452
Which one of you faggots did this?
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>>32130829
>I watch the dub and pretend not to
Nice try.
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Why is everyone in here so insecure about watching the dub that they have to make fun of others for watching it? Yeah it's pretty bad but it's okay to watch it ironically you know.
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>>32130797
Motherfucker you can overanalyze any character as some reflection of human nature. Doesn't mean their story was well written or interesting.

Closer to ingame =/= more interesting to watch. Would battles be more interesting to watch if they were turn based? Fuck off with that shit.
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>>32130766
* Got it this time
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>>32130855
>it's okay to watch it ironically
Go back to your subplebbit
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>>32130885
Which one? There's a subreddit for the dub? Please link it!!
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>>32130877
* fuck I did it again
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>this thread
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>>32130873
>asks for goal
>gets a reply
>argues it's not goal
>gets reply
>muh realism
>gets another reply
>deflects it
>another reply
>now decides quality of writing was being questioned
how cute.
did they taught you such debate skills in Pioneers of Red Star or in Hitlerjugend?
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>>32130834
That was legitimately an emotional scene, I don't get what's your point.
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>>32130855

they're just deflecting. they have no way to defend their position so they just scream "dubfag" or whatever else.

even if said anon watched the dub, how does that affect their argument? you'd have to explain what the dub actually materially changes that would render their argument false. and furthermore, how the fuck would you even know that unless you watched the dub yourself?

it's fallacy upon fallacy.
can't wait for the usually evasive dismissal that proves me right again.
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>>32130907
You're the only one who brought up "muh realism", friendo.
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>>32130907
>goal is to "find herself"

So no goal. Got it.
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>>32130919
>argues about shit from a show without having watched the show
>thinks you have an argument
That's not how it works
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>>32130937
>continuing to deflect
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>>32130924
Oh really? So now >muh realism is bringing up real-life analogies instead of dismissing those with >muh realism as it was earlier?
How do things change, senpai.

>32130929
:^)
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>>32130937

how is the dub "not watching the show?" again, you'd have to explain the differences that are relevant to the argument, not just spew vague generalizations. mind you i haven't watched the dub so be specific.
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>>32130916
>serena loses her first contest
>cuts her hair off out of anger
>I-it was a legitimately emotional scene guys I swear!!
BTW the only good Serena scenes were in XY&Z28
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>>32130937
>watching the dub this hard
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>>32130951
>still comparing a cartoon to real life
Apparently mutant monsters with laserbeams that come out of their mouths that are held in capsules exist in real life because Pokémon is meant to be a realistic series
My goal in life is to be a Pokémon Master so I identify with Ash so much
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>>32130953
It rewrites a bunch of shit. You're not going to get any massive lists of specifics because people don't actually watch it here, which is why they're not interested in discussing character writing with people that only watched some rewrite and thus have no idea how the character was originally written in the first place.
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>>32130916
Here, is the point: >>32130277

It was just forced drama.
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>>32130986
>I don't have any evidence that what was being discussed features revisions made by the dub but it doesn't matter because I say so
Find me dub lines that directly change Serena's character. Do it or you have no argument.
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>>32130979
Well
I guess 4chin being shrine of autists wasn't a lie...
How does it feel to live without any concept of abstraction?
Can you even dream at all?
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>>32130993
Or you can just go discuss your dub scripts with dubfags elsewhere instead.
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>>32130855
>that they have to make fun of others for watching it?
Because people can't stop judging/bullying each others for what they like or don't like, there is no respect, and this is dividing and killing /padt/.
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>>32130995
Of course I dream!
I dream of being a Pokémon Master just like Ash!
After all, the literal only way I can identify with a character in fiction is if they're exactly like me, who is living in the real world!
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>>32131008
>watching the dub ever being tolerated here
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>>32131001
>admits he has no argument
Congratulations, you're now officially admitting that I'm right. Thanks for your support, Mr. Insecure Dubfag!
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>>32131027
The dub episodes were listed in the OP back in 2013, when the general first started.
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>>32130937
>that guy keeps using the same generic buzzwords/phrases like "spamming your evasive memes," "deflecting again," "ad hominem," and "fallacy upon fallacy" etc. that the "XYgote" shitposter
>also le "rushed recycled contest plot" arc, le "Serena = muh Ash," just like that one sperg who wrote the lengthy and autistic "when will the 'XY is good' meme die?" pasta
Really makes me wonder...
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>>32131027
Is not only that, is everything.
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>>32131039
It wasn't really tolerated back then either.
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>>32131008
It's always been like that here, and on /vp/ at large and 4chan writ large. You think genwarring and flamewarring are only found here in this thread?
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>>32131040
>That guy that keeps using buzzwords like "watching the dub", "rewrite" and "original script"
Truly causes one to ponder...
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>>32131065
>that guy
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>>32131065
wew
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>>32131050
>something that was deliberately put in the OP wasn't tolerated at all

Oh wait, the XY series "frequently asked questions" like "Will Serena win da Ash?" were in there too, so I guess my point is null. Never mind.
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>>32131086
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>>32130669
>>32130617
Adamant pls
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>>32130894
We could had have chicken chan instead we got autism, fatso, niggress, and barun.

It hurts.
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>Serena's goal was finding "what she wants to do"
Except it barely touched until episode 40, and Pokevision/Poffle episode are basically as shit as SM "not filler" with Lana/Lillie.
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>>32131215
this

im fucking tired of Pokemon, an asian made game being infested with niggers, crackers and white trash, spics and fags. It needs to be all Asian.
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>>32131215
>IMG was a Chickenfag all along
That figures.
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>>32131249
77?
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>>32131268
That's not him. Doesn't matter anyway, just do what you must.
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>>32131262
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>>32131320
Shipping ChickenxAsh, you're really pathetic.
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>>32131215
Oh Moon in the anime could have been good, isn't she like a nurse? and she knows how to manage a bow like an archer, also likes battles.
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>>32131215
>We could had have chicken chan instead we got autism, fatso, niggress, and barun.
Chicken would be even shittier, because they wouldn't be able to come uo with goal for her.
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>>32131328
Find a FLAW. :^)
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>>32131343
>ace the Island challenge, or just fulfil it
>get really good at something relevant while actually doing something toward this goal
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>>32131040

Do you even know what buzzwords are? Or are you just using buzzword as a buzzword?
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>>32131337
Is that what her character is like in the manga? Sounds pretty good. Would had worked wonders on the older anime format not so sure about the sol vibe we got going at the moment.
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>>32131419
>Island challenge
They didn't make May/Dawn/Serena Gym challengers for a reason.
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>>32131040
>calling ad hominem when someone uses ad hominem is now a buzzword

Please neck yourself. Apparently your definition of buzzword is "anything I don't like or can't rebut."
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>>32131433
Because they would compete for limelight with Ash
Your point?
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>>32131442
Chicken would've done that too.
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Anything they could had comes up with for chicken chan would had been better than baruuun or literally my dad's tea shop.

Shit tier goals for shit tier grills.
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>>32131442
Same reason with Chicken. Also, not only that. For entering league you need full team and it's hard to develop more than 1.
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>>32131454
>>32131442

That's just writer incompetence. If Ash beat the Kalos league, he could have mentored Chicken on her island challenge while he himself investigated tapu mysteries and shit.
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>>32131422
>Is that what her character is like in the manga?
Yes, also the manga hasn't dropped the Nebby plot like the anime so is more entertaining.
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>>32131464
Mao's goal is to find a really good recipe, though. At least that's something.
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>>32130197
We also need art from Akino, KojiRuri and Koike.
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>>32131474
>while he himself investigated tapu mysteries
That's even more OOC than him enrolling in pokemon skuru.
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There's no doubt the SM girls have the worst goals in the shows history

Who the hell gives a damn about a fucking cafe or a perfect balloon? Fucking Matsui and her shit ideas
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>>32131495
(you)
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>>32131476
Something that isn't Pokemon-related, at least as of now unless it ends up being another recipe with an ingredient that some other random Pokemon likes/uses.
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>>32131495
>There's no doubt the SM girls have the worst goals in the shows history
To be honest, almost all games don't have much to work with.
May/Dawn had contests, but Game Contests dissapeared after Gen IV. Serena got really lucky with remake. If not ORAS, she would probably been as bad as SM girls with even shitter goal than Tripokalons.
And RBY, BW, SM games just don't have anything worthy of alternative goal. Maybe if DP remakes happen they will make Lillie/Lana competing in contest shit.
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>>32131495
You forgot the literal autist's goal, which will be interesting only insofar as her mom's subplot is interesting.
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>>32131454
>>32131473
It seems now writers don't care about stealing spotlight from Ash, so..

>>32131487
>That's even more OOC than him enrolling in pokemon skuru.
>be kinda strong
>wannabe stronger
>oh look legendaries that are powerful as fuck think you're interesting and prime for some trials
>why wouldn't you give in?
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>>32131487
>tfw the writers actually admitted this

>>32131525
>If not ORAS, she would probably been as bad as SM girls with even shitter goal than Tripokalons.
Nah, they would've probably done something like "Fairy type master" in order to shill Sylveon and such even more.
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>>32131495
>>32131464

Who gives a shit about goals? I contend that Serena's goal was shit, but that's not the main reason I disliked her. She was just bland.

SM girls have more distinct personalities, which are not even that great, so it's not so much praise to them as insult to Serena.
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>>32131570

glad you agree
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At least they don't pretend to make lillie relevant through some retarded goal. She is in school because she likes pokemon and that's about it.
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>>32131553
A goal is not important for female characters. It's the same as career women, no man gives a shit about that.
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>>32131640
>>>/pol/
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>>32131640

It's not important for secondary characters in general. It can certainly enhance them and the story as a whole, but it they're just going to keep halfassing it it's not worth it. Focus on their personalities.
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>>32131680
He doesn't give a shit about personalities. His autism compels him to focus only on looks, hair length and signs of "feminine value/fertility" or whatever.
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Return when?
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>>32131701

I can't really blame him when Serena had so little else to offer.
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>>32131733
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>>32131733
Tierno pls
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>shitposters unironically discussing with 77
That's new
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>>32131751
Not really. He and you-know-who sometimes sperg back and forth at each other.
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>>32131701
The girls should just do feminine stuff, it doesn't have to be goal related. The men should be achievers.
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>>32131755
kind of like you and the faggot you're responding to?
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>250 posts
>all I see is the OP
It's the best.
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>>32130730
DELICIOUS AMOURFAG TEARS
>>
autism
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>>32131813
You don't need to repeat this every other thread, you know.
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>>32131829
no anon, he has to brag about how easily triggered he is. how he's so emotionally fragile he has to hide anything even slightly provoking, instead of just ignoring it the old fashioned way. that way his hugbox will validate his pathetic existence.
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>>32131864
Are you upset?
>>
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-16/japan-animation-tv-ranking-march-6-12/.113536
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>>32131876
triggered, adding upset to my filter
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>>32131895
Pokemon got a 3.6. So almost all of SM's ratings have been in the 3.0's. It's the lowest rated series yet.

Why don't they just call it quits?
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post lillies
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>>32131895
>>32131902
Fuck off.
>>
Daily reminder the Kalos League was rigged and Alain cheated
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>>32131907
Not this shit again
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>>32131907
If Lillie catches another mon, who will it be?
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>>32131913
That's obvious
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>>32131902
XYZ's ratings weren't so different. It's not like Pokemon was ever up there between animes such as OP in Nippon.
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>>32131913
So did Ash with his asspull form.
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>>32131923
cutiefly. don't think she will capture another though. he will develop alongside vulpix until neby comes around.
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>>32131923
Cutiefly, y/n?
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>>32131946
I thought Cutiefly would be Ash's first fairy type.
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>>32131907
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>>32131923
Guzzlord, it will be like Dawn's Mamoswine.
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Will this Lazy NEET ever appear?
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So, im out of the loop but, isnt the use of outside items during an oficial match against the rules? As far as i know the mega form can only be achieved with a special item, wich is just forcing an evolution, not something natural that could happen during a battle
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what are the chances of someone getting this abomination?
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>>32131995
Mallow already got it in-game.
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>>32131923
Nebby/Lunala/Solgaleo but if that doesn't count, Lillipup, Lilligant, or any other pokemon with Lilli in the name. Or Nihilego.
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>>32131971
if she does appear it do be towards the end.
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>>32131995
If they are going to copy the game's teams. Then Mallow.
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>>32131995
Probably zero. Its one of the most forgetable mons this gen. Though a episode where somebody gets lost thanks to Shiinotic lights could be pretty cool as a filler of some sort.
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>>32132004
>you will never explore mallow's lush jungle
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>This thread
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>>32132041
>this post
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>>32131985
Mega evolutions are obviously allowed.
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Rate my Shoko.
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>>32132053
10/10
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>>32132047
>this board
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>>32132053
Worse than mine.
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>>32132005
>Lillie actually getting SM's eponymous legendaries
Yeah, that'll be the day.
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>>32132076
>3d
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>>32131907
You're welcome
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>>32132088
Shoko is honorary 2D
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>>32132076
is she, dare i say it, /ourgirl/?
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Olivia's actual appearance when?
foot don't count.
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>>32132114
Soon
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>>32132108
She's been the queen of /vp/ since before /vp/ even was a thing. We used to have regular Shoko dump threads some 5 years ago.
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>>32132114
Would she try to bang every male she approaches which result in creeping them out in the process
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>>32132138
>keepu v2
Yes please
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>>32132108
>Short hair.
>Crazy cat lady.
Nah
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>>32132163
>Brock v2

ftfy
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>>32132165
77 go
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>>32132165
See >>32130331.
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>>32132169
>Brock cameoes in Alola
>gets a waifu
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>>32132108
>even having to ask
>>
New:
>>32132211
>>32132211
>>32132211
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>>32132184
Lele-chan would never allow this!
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>>32132184
>Brock actually returns for a few episodes
>Olivia goes for every guy except him
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>>32132225
Tapus trulely are dickbags

>>32132232
I'd lose my sides
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>>32130431
>people still don't get what Serena goal was meant to represent

>"I WILL TRAVEL WITH YOU BECAUSE I NEED YOUR DICK!!!
Final chap
>I WILL GET BETTER TO GET YOUR DICK!!1!1

Wow, Shitrena is deep
>>
delicious tears
>>
this fandom will never be good.
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>>32130115
>Litten being the new
Frokie

>>32130129

>Being this delusional

Seriously tho,

When will this headcanon ever Stop.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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