Will there ever be a more emotional moment in the franchise?

>>32128401
The moment where Ash wins the League.

When Serena cut her hair short

>>32128452
>caring about Serena at all

>>32128401
Ash leaving his Zard was pretty emotional too. Or maybe it wasn't, and I just thought it was because I gave a shit about both Ash and his Zard at the time.

>>32128427
not gonna happen

When Mallowand friends say goodbye

>>32128452
Shh you are gonna derail the thread

>>32128401
Pikachu crying to revive dead ash, if you were a kid.

>>32128452
Still one of my favorite scenes in years.

>>32128401
Meowth's origin story is sad, rocket gang is the best part of the ashime, especially in S&M

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>>32128452
What's so special about that?

>>32128401
Wait what's going on here?? I don't follow the show, but I'm a little upset what I see. what's the story?

>>32128452
This one by far.

>32128468
>I'm an edgelord without feelings and I must let everyone know
Not even worth the (You)

>>32128602
Team Rocket releasing the mons they owned during the first five or six years of the show.

They did it so Weezing and Arbok could protect their kin in the wild. It was a legitimately sad moment, but it was necessary so that TR could have new slots open up for the writers to shill Hoenn mons.

>>32128602
Pokemon poacher goes after a bunch of Koffing and Ekans so Team Rocket decides that it would be best for their Weezing and Arbok to stay and protect them.

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>>32128606
;-;

>>32128452
I was disappointed by how bad her design was after that because it really was a good scene.

>>32128736
Shit taste.

Ash's death in ths Lucario movie. You knew it was coming, but the leadup was great, and it hit really fucking hard once it happened. I wasn't expecting it to go so deep.

When Ash finally bonded with Zard.

>>32129030
this desu

>>32128452
/thread

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>>32128401

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>>32128452
This. Wonder how many kids started crying alongside her.

>>32128452
People are still mad about it to this day so I guess this is the winner.

>>32128473
It wasn't but they tried to make a big deal out of it.

>>32128473
It comes back every season. So not that bad.

Butterfree's goodbye and that scene in the 1st movie, you know which one.

>>32128427
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32128550
Made me cry as a kid
>>32128556
Made me cry as an adult

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GOD DAMMIT OP

FUCK YOU FOR GIVING ME THESE FEELS

now i'm going to go find that old-ass dvd I have of the episode

>>32133797
The Firebird is fucked up by Sneaky Pebbles

>>32128452
>cutting your hair is emotional
If this isn't bait consider killing yourself as soon as possible.

>>32130876
How would you cry alongside that? How mentally retarded and autistic do you have to be?

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>>32133900

>>32133949
>>32133963
Your samefag is showing.

>>32133900
This is actually emotional

Take note serenafags and if you still think your bitch having a small breakdown is emotional then you should think about your life.

>32133556
>>32133949
Not him but how is that bait? Have you guys watched the scene?

>>32128401
I would say Butterfree, but the poor nigga really didn't see much use in the grand scheme of things, whereas those two were in literally hundreds of battles.

Jessie releasing Dustox and having to break its PokèBall because it didn't want to leave her was pretty emotional too.

>>32133971
>implying i cannot reply 1 by 1
How new are you?

>>32133983
It's the same guy, and he's blatantly baiting. Same guy as >>32133980 too.

I can't remember because it was a really long time but there was one episode with may and squirtle that gave me feels. https://youtu.be/FqPdWQ3kGl4 i think this wa it

>>32133983
I watched it and it was literally her loosing running on the docks her fokko and pancham next to her while she is overracting to then show up a few minutes later saying oh i am fine and so happy. The scene had no fucking depth. When dawn lost she cried a bit and did quit contests for a bit and did need a while to recover. The scene had no meaning to it but a reason to redesign the character.

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>>32133986
Basically the same story, but Jessie and Dustox was better in my opinion. Jessie didn't even like Dustox at first, right? She wanted Beautifly if I remember right.

And the Poké Ball smash was what sold me. We just had Dustox and Jessie on the show much longer than Butterfree did.

>>32134026
>Jessie and Dustox was better in my opinion
No arguments there

>Jessie didn't even like Dustox at first, right? She wanted Beautifly if I remember right.
She did want a Beautifly, and whild she seemed initially disappointed, she decided she liked Dustox almost immediately after seeing it.

>>32134050
>Google Translate

https://youtu.be/5zA950XZzfU
Pochama crying and the lalala piano gave me all the feels even watching it nowadays makes me cry rivers. Poor pochama....
https://youtu.be/CXP0ugGz-o4
The lalala piano is all the feels.

When Celebi revives after being dead and this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3veeqtbKkk

>>32134115
That would have been more effective if Ash hadn't done it first.

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>>32134061

>>32134218
Good boy.

>>32128736
>it really was a good scene.

A girl cutting her hair for character development is the blandest cliché you could ever have in your story.

>>32134415
>implying cliches are bad

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>>32134218
>Remember when you got cucked in the Kalos tournament? Because I do

>>32134530
No, but that particular example is.

>>32128606
>I'm an edgelord without feelings
>Considering the fact Serena was in love with an edgelord

I'd give you a (you) but im all out giving them to all the other retarded Serenafags

>>32134720
Ash a edgelord? The only edgelord human related to ash are people who defeated him. Tobias, and the one guy who won the league.

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>>32128452
>losing your cherished friends is less emotional than losing some fashion contest you took a passing interest in

XY fags are actually this retarded

>>32135006
How many times have you replied to that post now?

When Ambertwo died.

Name one emotional moment in the anime that doesnt have to do with releasing a pokemon, something dying, or someone saying goodbye.

>>32135167
Easy >>32128452

>>32135167
Ash losing Kalos league. Its not sad emotional but im pretty sure emotions were rampant from the result.

>>32134925
stay mad, cuck

>>32135167
Ash saves Charizard from freezing.

>>32135006
Came here to post this.

>>32135516
Meh, the only thing about ash losing is why is it most likely a cookie cutter edgelord character?
I know Ash isnt going to win a league. Maybe Alola to be the first one but i feel like it would be a orange league win.

Most moments with this music are quite touching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOCrHQB_FI
I personally like when Brock is given vulpix by Suzie. It wasn't his regular shtick, he admired her, and she acknowledged that. A great moment for Brock and the show

>>32135006
I agree. It is retarded as fuck to think it is emotional compared to other moments. Sadly xy turned all viewers into braindead serenafags.

>>32135834
Because it was the closest pokegirl to Misty in terms of getting it with Ash.

>>32128401
I honestly hoped they'd come back for them when Ash had to return to Petalburg to challenge Norman.

>>32133949
>>32133963
>>32133980
>>32134720
>>32135006
>>32135834
Anon, this is getting seriously pathetic by now.

>>32134720
>>32135880
I have no idea what he meant with this.

>>32135916
Do you really think people fail to understand those post are all from the same person? I mean, really?

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>>32135843
Serena and ash don't work for me to be honest. Dawn and ash feels much better to me to be honest. Dawn and serena also works nicely in my eyes as they are really cute together see pic related.

>>32135952
>tumblr

>>32135948
Kek le samefag mai mai.
Only the first 3 and last one are from me.
And they are just me replying to posts.

>>32135960
Is it my fault that it is the only place with a nice suply of it?

>>32135972
Stay there.

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>>32135979
Not local to tumblr just a fan of those 2 <3

>>32135167
That episode where Ash and his Pokémon got stuck in that snowy cave and the Pokémon all refused to get into their balls so Ash wouldn't be alone in the cold.

>>32135167
See
>>32128452

>>32135880
What's sad and pathetic is your damage control.

>>32128401
Im honestly surprised Wheezing and Arbok have never came back, as strong as they are (all things considering) you'd think they'd have the whole group evolved into Wheezings and Arboks and strong enough to protect themselves.

>>32128534
and when is that

>>32136306
Ok yeah that got to me

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>>32128452
I'm confused, is this a meme? Is this a /padt/ meme that I'm not getting because I don't go to /padt/?

>>32137691
Why the fuck would it be a meme? The scene was legitimately one of the best-received in a long time. The scene's execution, its production values and the reactions it got from fanartists and social media and such pretty much speak for themselves. Yeah, the Pokemon anime is still shit overall compared to other anime, but that scene is still one of the few genuinely memorable moments in a show that has long been too afraid to stick to the formula.

A certain /pol/tard who comes to /vp/ to shitpost every day about how he thinks shorter hair on girls is equivalent to Hitler may disagree, as may some faggots who cry "blah blah, XY Ash is a soulless Gary Stu, blah blah blah, Serena is useless and just wants Ash's dick, blah blah blah." But don't let those guys fool you into thinking that mentioning or praising Serena's haircut scene is just some sort of "meme."

>>32137741
Can you explain to someone who stopped watching the anime a decade ago what's so good about it? Why is it such a big deal that numerous people are claiming it to be the best shit ever and other people are detracting it? It sounds so inconsequential to me, nobody dies and no characters leave the show, it doesn't seem like anyone is put into any peril.

>>32137747
You'd have to watch the show to really understand why so many people reacted strongly to it. There's a long, long buildup to it that basically takes her character from being a naive, reserved, insecure NEET who's being forced into doing shit she doesn't want to do by her mother to, as she puts it, a true, dogged "challenger."

The execution isn't perfect, and there's a lot to be criticized about the pacing, especially in the first year of the show, but once you make it through that and you actually see the haircut scene, it ends up being really satisfying, at least to most people.

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>>32137752
...are you sure it's not just stockholm syndrome? Generally "you have to watch/play it for [x] hours before it gets good" is a concerning statement to hear.

>>32137756
Well, take it from me. I wasn't crazy about Serena's character for a while. She struck me as bland, too girly and really superficial, but eventually she became one of my favorite Pokemon characters, in no small part due to the somewhat different approach the writers took with her.

As for the "you have to watch/play it for [x] hours before it gets good" comment... the same could be said of the previous Pokemon series, honestly.

>>32137763
I dunno, I could probably watch most good "emotional" episodes of Pokémon and enjoy them.

>>32137797
Maybe, but the buildup is what made the scene more special for a lot of people. It doesn't take place until a year-plus into the series. If you just watch it out of nowhere, it might not have the same effect, since the whole backstory actually plays a big role in the scene itself (i.e., you get a flashback on screen as shit goes down).

>>32137797
Oh, one more thing, if you do decide to take the plunge and watch any of it, do yourself a favor and don't watch the English dub. Just... don't. The dub has been shit for well over a decade now ever since it switched hands (and even before that it wasn't exactly good either). Get a hold of the Japanese edition with English subs. You can find them here: http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info

>>32130876
Can't say it didn't tug my heartstrings a bit too.

Hadn't felt that way about a scene since Butterfree left.

>>32133541
Not quite. It didn't come back in XY or XY&Z, for one. It might as well not have come back at all in BW, because it did fuck-all during its cameo back then.

>>32128452
>>32134026
Both of these got me ;_;

>>32138424
Me too anon...me too

>32138462
>I can't accept people having different opinions than me waaaah
>s-stop liking what I don't like

>>32138472
You are now aware of the fact that he's been doing this for at least over a year.

>>32138501
>over a year
Wait what? Has it really been a year?

>>32137888
Both Dawn and Charizard's returns in BW were so painfully blatantly done just because BW wasn't very well received and "bring back some popular characters" was the fastest damage control they could come up with. It's clear as way they had no actual plans for either.

>>32138501
Whose doing what?

>>32138524
Some colossal autist that goes into any thread vaguely related to the anime and starts screaming about "how cancerous XYfags are", then usually starts spamming pictures of literal shit. It's the most insane display of "stop liking what I don't like" I've ever seen.

>>32138549
Why would anyone argue against pictures of literal shit, I have no idea.

>>32138535
Is this the same guy as the one screaming about "barafags" all the time?

>>32138564
>>32138549
>>32138575
OK

>>32138575
So you have no real argument, and decide to go straight to accusation.

Also, I guess the mods are Serenafags too, seeing how they deleted your shitposting.

>>32138598
>implying they aren't Serenafags

>>32135121
Fucking this.
Ash dying was pussy shit compared to just about everything that happened in the prologue of the movie.

>>32138640
Ok.

>>32128452
This

>>32138671
Okay.

Pikachus Goodbye is the number 1 saddest moment, also the ending of mewtwo strikes back

>>32138686
Still fall back to accusation I see. You must be so proud of yourself.

>>32128452
That scene was just too good for the Pokemon anime.

>>32128452
>I'm sad
>snip snip
>Now I'm not sad
>XYfags give it endless praise

>haircut
>emotional scene
>most emotional scene in the anime
>somehow more so than any of the releases

Why are Serenafags so fucking retarded

>>32128452
This better be a joke.

>>32139186
i thought so at first but then i looked at the responses

>>32137752
Are you describing Serena or Lillie?

>>32139278
Lillie hasn't had a strong emotional moment like that scene with Serena. Maybe they can pull one out if the Rokon parishes or leaves.

>>32139219
how the fuck can something be so emotional that's based on the fox accidentally tripping on stage?

padt's taste is so fucking shit

>>32139278
Why would that describe Lillie?

>>32138574
It's starting to look that way.

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>>32133900

>>32139735
>basically takes her character from being a naive, reserved, insecure NEET who's being forced into doing shit she doesn't want to do by her mother to, as she puts it, a true, dogged "challenger."
Everything, except possibly the NEET detail, describes Lillie in the games.

>>32139823
>in the games

>>32139835
Yes?

>>32139735
Because he doesn't watch

>>32137752
>There's a long, long buildup to it
Fucking this. She has no idea what to do for the longest time, and the time it took her to even find out about the not-contests along with her decision to partake in them is very realistic, as most people think long and hard about these their life paths. She fought with her mom, confided in Shauna, and travelled the region just to find something she likes to do and believes she can be a part of. Unlike the other characters in the anime, she sets off with hopes to find more about herself (not just “muh childhood crush”), as evidenced by her talks with her mom in the early episodes. She even had an ending song dedicated to her trying to find out all this shit. Given all this, she jumps straight into her first competition thinking that this is it, she’s finally figured out what she wants to do, and going to give it her all. She was going to strut down the catwalk with Fennikin and then perform with Pancham. She had everything planned out and ready. But then Fennikin trips. She had barely started and already she had fucked up, and by means out of her own control. After all this contemplating, after all the experiences she’s had and decisions made with these performances in mind, it all just comes crashing down over the tiniest mistake. What else could she do but question her decisions? Was this even what her pokemon wanted? Was this even what she wanted? I might just be projecting here, but I think this is a common reaction going through people’s heads when they set out to pursue what they think is their passion. What if it’s not worth it? What if it’s not even a passion but just an interest or enthusiasm? Was all she had done even worth it in the end? All these doubts are manifesting inside of her, so of course it’s going to be emotional! All these dreams she had and she’s not even sure if they’re real!
(1/2)

>>32140455
>cont.
But then she calms down after all those tears and her pokemon’s support. She got to here by herself, she had taken the steps to where she is now on her own, not by her mother telling she should. And those feelings when she practiced with her pokemon, they were hers, and she enjoyed sharing them with Fennikin and Pancham. There’s no doubt in her mind now, she wants to pursue this dream, she really does. And with that in mind, a new Serena is born alongside her, the one with passion and the strength to persevere. In the East, it is a common association to take cutting one’s hair with forgetting one’s past, and that’s what we see Serena doing. With a face full of determination, she cuts it all off. She is forgetting her troubles, her doubts, her fears, because she knows there is no truth to them, for this feeling in her heart, the love she shares on the stage with her pokemon, that is more powerful than any despair.
(2/2)

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>>32128452
>watching the ashnime
>ever
Why?

>>32140676
>using the word "ashnime"
You are not any better

>>32140455
>>32140463
Epic pasta m8

I agree with most of it actually

>>32128452
Is this some sort of joke I'm missing? You and everyone who responded positively to this are retarded.

>>32143888
>>32139186
>>32133949
Not this shit again.

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>>32143943
>I can't count IPs
>le everyone who disagrees with me is the same person meme
Go back to /padt/.

>>32128452
>>32130876
A beautiful scene in pretty much every way. The buildup to it throughout that whole episode was really great, the art was breathtaking, the flashback was a nice touch, the music was top notch. It definitely got me.

As cliche as the whole "haircut to open a new phase of your life" trope is, it worked here, and it's definitely not a step I expected the overglorified children's toy commercial we know as the Pokemon anime to take.

>>32143986
I can reset my IP too.

>>32143986
Don't you ever fucking reply to me again unless you have something to contribute to this thread.

>>32128401
As far as happy emotions go, the best was when Tobias crushed Ash's soul and dreams.

>>32128452
I can see why you say this and the scene by itself is pretty emotional, but I don't think it was really needed to be like that. Like, she just failed, like May and Dawn failed in some of their contests, like Ash always failed in their League Challenges and something like that. I only made Serena feel like a spoiled brat who can't lose.

>>32128401
>that moment when jesse and james fight a tyranitar themselves

>>32138683
Genwunner as fuck. Straight from 9Gag.

>>32144140
You're missing the point, anon. It's not just one person losing one contest as if they're all the same. Each girl has a different set of circumstances and backstories that produced their losses.

That's why half the retards who keep saying "what's the big deal, she lost one time, no big deal" are basically proving they either totally missed the point, didn't actually watch the show, or are just fishing for free (You)s.

It's not THAT emotional like the one OP said, but I think Jirachi's episode in Decolore Islands arc is pretty emotional too, even if it was a rip-off of the sixth movie. The girl and her reasons to find Jirachi were really touching, especially in the Japanese version because of Make a Wish.

>>32144195
That episode was pretty good. One of the few highlights of a shitty filler arc.

Jesse, James and Mewoth are the most well-developed characters in the series, even if they're like "gag villains" os something. Look, they actually have a good background and all their reasons to be what they are. And it's very explicit they are bad guys just for fun, they aren't actually BAD.

Look at Meowth background with that female Meowth or how Jessie grew up alone. Even James, who was grown as a rich and spoiled boy have his reasons to become what he became. James, specially, is a better trainer than many of the main cast and actually cares about his Pokémon, Jessie has her emotional moments, like with Dustox and Arbok, even if she don't look too bonded to her Pokémon like he does.

That's why I hate what happened at the end of BW series with them giving their Pokémon without any contest, even if their Unova Pokémon didn't had any personality

>>32144195
>because of Make a Wish.

Based song. I really like Jirachi's lore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNyzl1KxrwA

>>32137752
>There's a long, long buildup to it
To me it seemed like it happened too fast and that it was devoid of meaning because she didn't do anything to deserve a reinvention. All she did was lose a bunch of times and after cutting her hair and she is magically a different person and doesn't lose as much. It didn't feel like a build-up but a shortcut, no pun intended. She was just an awful character all around. It's not really her fault though. She fell victim to Ash being such a bad character too.

Every new season made Ash more boring, dead and uninteresting. The culmination of that was XY/Z. During Serena episodes he was just in the background, smiling contently and lifeless. Events like when he snapped at Serena have no meaning because they are so out of character. It's like 2 different groups of people writing episodes. One group does the important "emotional" episodes and the other does the filler episodes filled with monotony.

The significant episodes like Serena cutting her hair and Ash's bond with Greninja are out of place with the rest of the anime but they are not bad episodes. If you take those episodes and validate them by reworking the rest of the anime you can actually make those climactic events have meaning and emotion. As it stands it's like watching an anime with a fan made AMV in the middle as the important events.

>>32144311
>All she did was lose a bunch of times
She actually lose only one fucking time, if I remember well.

>>32144311
>The significant episodes like Serena cutting her hair and Ash's bond with Greninja are out of place with the rest of the anime but they are not bad episodes.
I think this is the main problem with XY series. People say it's fucking good, but a lot of the episodes are just a bunch of fillers, especially the first half of the series pre-XYZ.

>>32144345
This describes the Pokemon anime in general really. The problem is anytime the show makes anything that might be considered decent by some other show's standards, it's dragged down by the fact that it's surrounded by 50+ episodes of fucking nothing.

Making a good episode should be the goal of a show every week, not something they do once or twice a year or something. I have to wonder if the show would get any better if they didn't literally have the same guys writing it for 20 years. I think they've had a new writer or two come on once in a while, but generally it's been the same guys. I can only imagine they're jaded fucks by this point. (You'd think a stable writing team would be a strength, but Pokemon has an irrational fear of continuity).

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Wtf? I'm >>32128452 and didn't think that reply would start a shitstorm. I legitimately think this was a very emotional scene and was the first to come into my mind. It's just an opinion, chill.

>>32144311
confirmed for not watching the series

>>32144642
Half the people here who are criticizing the scene are saying such retarded shit that it's obvious they didn't watch the series or are just baiting/shitposting. Especially that one guy who wrote that wall of autistic bullshit saying Serena cut her hair because she "lost a bunch of times."

>>32144642
>expecting most posters on this board to have any clue what they're talking about with regard to any anime season after AG
We're you seriously expecting anything different?

>>32144834
Don't forget whoever was crying about fillers in XY, as if every previous season didn't have even more fillers. I've also seen people bitch that Serena's haircut was terrible because "she cut her hair to try to impress Ash" or some bullshit they probably read from a shitposter or pulled out of their ass

Shit like that is why I normally don't discuss the anime on /vp/. The mere mention of anything involving the anime, particularly newer seasons or Serena or XY Ash sends this whole fucking place into an autistic meltdown, it's as if someone had shot their dog.

>>32144898
>after AG
You mean, OS.

>>32145206
A lot of people stopped watching around the time the 4kids dub stopped, which was after Hoenn.

A lot of the negative opinions you see on DP online is mostly because people watched it dubbed when it aired so they couldn't enjoy it.

>>32145451
Can confirm. I was slowly falling out of the series before the dub change, but the dub change was the thing that made me lose interest entirely. I don't have negative opinions on DP, though, since I realized all the arcs are basically exactly the same, with Ash doing the same things every time and always failing at the end so he has to do it again, even if some things are done better or worse in some arcs. DP is just the point where it got too much for me and I realized this.

>>32144154
No, you simply have low standards.

>>32144642
The opinion all makes sense when one considers your shit taste in bad shows.

>>32133900
I didn't come here expecting to actually get sad.

>>32144898
I was expecting nothing. Maybe that my post to get ignored like most of my posts here if anything.

>>32146396
There's one guy on /vp/ that's apparently made it his life's to shit on Serena as much as possible while pretending to be as many people as possible, so any mention of her will cause him to show up and samefag replies for days. Check the archive and see how many of his posts got deleted in this thread.

>>32146435
Only three of the direct replies to that post have been deleted, though, plus some other posts that stemmed from other replies to that topic. There's definitely a turbo autist who gets really mad at the mention of that scene, but a lot of us, myself included, were just confused at how cutting your hair after losing a Contest event was "the most emotional scene in the entire franchise." It seems really irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Did Serena's mother force her to grow her hair long all her life or something, like Lusamine did to Lillie in the games?

>>32146704
You need to watch the show to get it. It's not the actual hair that's the point.

>>32146773
Yeah, I get that it's meant to be symbolic of something, but what hardships has she gone through that makes the symbolism of cutting your hair so important? All I'm getting is that her mom was a control freak like Lusamine and she lost one single Contest. It seems like there has to be something more to this that led to this moment being somehow the most emotional moment in the entire 20 years the anime has been running.

>>32146784
>You need to watch the show to get it.

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>>32146792
Anon, it's a show aimed at 8-year-old Japanese kids. It's not so deep that you can't give me a summary.

>>32146784
Read >>32140455 >>32140463 for an attempt at explaining it.

But it's something you really need to be familiar with the show and the characters to get.

Keep in mind that most of those mentioning Ash dying in the first movie watched that movie in a theater together with a parent that slept through half of it and thought that scene was stupid, too.

>>32146799
There's multiple summaries in the thread already.

>>32146808
I sincerely hope you aren't trying to use the Ash dying scene from the first movie as a "you have to watch it to get it" scenario. Because that scene is stupid, both the reasons why he was turned to stone and how it was resolved were awful, not to mention that everyone could see that they weren't going to go through with it. The whole thing is just stupid and the only reason anyone can like it is if they're too caught up in the moment to see the flaws.
I suspect people that like the Serena cutting her hair scene feel the same way.

Take OP's example for a better way to do it. Since the stakes are actually real and even if you haven't watched the anime in half a year that episode could still have had an impact.

>>32146874
If you had forced your dad to sit down and watch that when you were a kid, he'd most likely have thought that was stupid too.

>>32146884
Why? There's no huge overreactions nor any really dumb plot points.
I can see why somebody wouldn't care, but I can't really see why somebody would say "this is fucking stupid".

>>32146874
No, I was just saying. There's multiple explanations in the thread already and there's tons of people that agree this is an extremely emotional moment. If you don't want to try to get it, nobody's forcing you. But it's a character moment, and it requires you to be familiar with the character to truly understand it.

ITT: /padt/ trying to explain why someone cutting her hair because she lost a contest is the most emotional scene ever

Kill yourselves

>>32128452
Serena with short hair > Serena with long hair

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you're all wrong. The true saddest moment is when Pikachu's true love was tragically cut down right before his eyes

>>32128452
>>32146961
I think most of the rage this scene gets is because people didn't like Serena's redesign.

>>32140455
>>32140463
>glorifying this shitty trope this hard

Yes, you are projecting. None of those things are ever touched on by the show, you're just inserting your own headcanon inner conflicts to make it seem better written than it was.

Her entire entry into contests was forced as hell. Her sudden obsession with it made no sense. She was just looking for something to do, and it always felt like she just forced herself to care about it for the sake of having something to care about. That's why her overreaction felt completely unnatural. I understand little girls cry over stupid shit, and yeah I felt bad for her, but in no fucking universe is that more emotional than people letting go of their close friends. It was melodrama.

>>32147824
Most people did, though.

And raging over the scene because you don't like what happened afterwards is like raging over Butterfree's release and calling people that liked it cancer because you liked Butterfree and wanted it to stay on the team. Nobody does that, neither to that scene or any of the other releases mentioned here.

>>32147954
Butterfree's scene was a milestone for Ash in learning to cope with loss, and putting the needs of others above his own. It was deeply emotional and the presentation was children's cartoon kino.

Serena's haircut was completely fucking pointless in any practical sense. It was shitty trope melodrama.

>>32144642
Because not many find that scene very emotional, and saying that it was more so than OP's just pisses them off. On one hand, Team Rocket, the guys everyone loved, had to say goodbye to their first Pokemon. On other, Serena resolves to try even harder. However emotional you might think the latter was, to a lot of people, Serena, a character they didn't particularly care about, tried something no one cared about, lost and felt bad. We're pretty used to seeing people lose in the anime by now. Almost EVERY character loses. Even if this meant a lot to Serena, it didn't to those watching, and your claim that it was more emotional than OP or what they posted didn't sit well with them, and they expressed those thoughts.

>>32148018
>not many find that scene very emotional
It's probably the scene that got the most mentions in the entire thread m8

>>32148054
as a topic of conversation, not as people's number one

>>32148054
It's also the one that got most shit. I guess saying "not many like it" is wrong, though. "Many hate it" would be more accurate.

>>32148068
12 people replied to that post and agreed it was a very emotional scene dude.
I counted just for you.

>>32148054
>It's probably the scene that got the most mentions in the entire thread m8
People are debating it just because it's not that emotional.

>>32148072
>>32148087
Replying "everyone that liked this is a braindead retard xycancer nigger that should be banned from /vp/ because everyone hates you" 10 times isn't "debating", it's just autistically shitposting about a broad subject you hate.

>>32148087
There's not much debating, though. It's mostly just people that never saw it asking for a description or explanation about why it's so good.

>>32144962
>>32148107
Yeah, the constant starter-war threads where shitposters/falseflaggers spam "comedy relief owl" and "barafags BTFO" are getting to be annoying too. Also the daily threads that bitch and moan about "Amourfags" and their one measly thread a week somehow being the root of all evil. And let's not forget that one autist who makes like three threads a day with that screenshot of the poorly drawn backdrop in SM's OP.

/vp/'s level of autism regarding a show most of them don't even watch is something else.

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>>32148018
>Because not many find that scene very emotional
You can't be serious.

>>32148107
Most of those people never watched the show and just saw some shitty YouTube clip of it without any of the context or backstory. I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them watched the shitty dub version of it and thought it was the original.

>>32147824
Most people did like the redesign. Some disliked it, sure, but just as many, if not way more, people started viewing Serena more positively after it. Social media activity and fanart and other indicators provide support for this.

Plus, if someone unironically hates the scene for no other reason than "wahhhh, she cut her hair and changed her clothes," their opinion isn't really worth taking seriously.

>"""""""""buildup"""""""""
>"""""""""emotional"""""""

Oh noes she lost a contest she forced herself to care about, how heart wrenching even more so then losing your closest friends

I want serenafags to fuck off

>>32146808
This. I'll never understand people who say "Serena's haircut was shit because it was a cliche trope," but then are quick to call le "character dies and then comes back to life through the power of magic/friendship" trope the most amazing thing ever.

Today, anytime I see those kinds of "character dies, then is revived via the power of friendship or some other lazily shoehorned reason" scenes, I just roll my eyes. One of the reasons I hated the Diancie movie, for instance. I watch the Ash "death" scene today, and I feel mildly moved at best, and that's probably just my nostalgia goggles kicking in.

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>>32148907
Anything can sound stupid when said like that.

>>32149183
He's just reposting a slight variation of the same shit over and over again even though most of the time it gets deleted, just ignore it.

>>32128452
>all those replies

>>32148868
This

>>32133900
Saddest one here for sure.

>>32148107
Ignoring all the counterpoints while only acknowledging the shitposting isn't debating either. It's deflecting.

Honestly who do you think you're fooling? You think people can't read the replies and see the legitimate ones? How deep in denial are you?

>>32128452
>>32133900
/thread

>>32151168
You are the one in denial.

>>32148759
A character a lot didn't care about, and had no reason to care about, tried something no one cared about, messed up on her first try. Fucking Ash and Spearow scene had more emotional weight to it, because even if people didn't have time to care about Ash or Pikachu, they were in a much worse situation. Literally everyone loses. Only one person ever wins. If she had put a lot hard work and effort, and had it all go to waste and lost, maybe that would mean something. Like Ash losing the League for the first time. But this was literally her first try and she lost. Big fucking deal. It might've been literally the only she cared about and was hurt when she lost and all, but the viewers don't have any reason to give even a single shit.